Guys, we have one Hey, Good morning and welcome to the planning board regular meeting on Thursday, October 9th, 2025 at 9:30 a.m. Please silence your cell phones. Uh, Miss Gaskins, can you please take
the role? Member Bobby, it's not here yet. Member David President. Member Powell, member Brown is absent, member Axelrod here, and vice chairperson Rosen here,
and chairperson Melson here. Thank you. Okay, could we all rise for the pledge of allegiance? There you are. It's here. I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic
for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Okay. Um approval of the agenda. Do I have a motion to accept the agenda as pres as
presented? So moved. Second. Second. Okay. All in favor? I Okay. Swearing in of the public. For those giving testimony, please stand and raise your right hand to be sworn in and provide testimony for the application
you are affiliated with. Miss Gaskins, please swear in those giving testimony. By the authority best of notary of the state of Florida, do you swear affirm that the testimony you're about to give is the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Thank you. Thank you.
Okay. Uh approval of the minutes from August 14th. Are there any corrections to the minutes of August 14th? Hearing none. May I have a motion to approve the minutes of August 14th? So moved. Second. All in favor? I
I. Unfinished business. None. Moving right along. New business. Um, development order application number PZ-25-34, Seagate of Highland Condominium, Inc.
Application by Seagate of Highland Condominiums, Inc. Anthony. What is it? Okay. Oh, it's a typo. Santella requesting a special exception to install four wood piles under
existing fingerp224 South Ocean Boulevard. Do any board members have any exarty communications to disclose? Okay, we hear none. Um, at this time I now open the public hearing. Town
planner Allen, please present the application. Okay, good morning. For the record in Great Allen, Town Planner, I just wanted to start off by saying that in your packet, pages 58- 62, these are duplicate plans of the 11 by17 for this
particular project. Actually, for each item, you were provided duplicates in 8 and 1 half by 11. So, just you can ignore those and just refer to the 11 by 17. Yeah. Oh, to move it closer. Okay. Um, so I hope that's clear and I'll I'll
mention it as we move on to the other items as well. Uh, let's go ahead and uh just start with the aerials for this project. The aerials do start on page 13 of your packets. Um here you have the property segate
and here is a zoom in on the current dock and fingerps. I provided an X uh to show the location of the new piles. Again, these are all in your uh packets. Uh so as indicated by the chair, the applicant is requesting a special
exception to install install four wood piles under existing fingerp located at 3224 South Ocean Boulevard. The four PE piles will support two structurally compromised fingerp. Two piles will be under each fingerp.
The applicant has obtained uh Florida Department of Environmental Protection and Army Corps approval. Those uh permit numbers are provided on page 10 of your packets and we'll go through the slides again. Uh the pack um the plans, excuse me. Again, these are all in your 11
by17. Uh here you have a survey of the property and here you have the proposed fingerp repairs and then here you have uh the applicant has indicated where those uh peer uh piles are going to go. Again two on each
of the fingerps and then you here you just have a detail of the dock as well. Section 30-68G1 of the town code indicates that excessive marine facilities including piles uh requires
special exception approval by the planning board. Section 30-36A states that the planning board may approve approve with conditions or deny a request for special exception relating to accessory marine facilities. If the planning board approves a request, the applicant will be required to obtain a building permit from the town of
Highland Beach. Uh following such approval and prior to initiation of construction and uh commencement of construction shall be initiated within two years following the date of approval by the planning board. Staff has reviewed the applicant's proposed request. These are based on the plans date Sam received by the building
department on September 15 of 2025. Uh the plans are consistent with the special exception provisions found in section 30-36 of the town code where applicable and consistent with the town comprehensive plan and code of ordinances. Uh we do have the authorized agent here today, Mr. Anthony Santella
to address any questions. Okay. At this time, um do any board members have any questions for staff? If none of you do, I do. So any I do. Okay. I'd like to know, has there been any inspections of the other pilings
that are under these finger uh docks? Because my concern, to be honest with you, is the fact that we that really these should probably be uh finger docks should be replaced in total, not just partially. I'll defer that to the applicant. I I
don't know if there's been, but um Mr. Santella, do you you'll have to come up to the mic. Yeah. Well, well, let's wait for Mr. Santella because he's next. I just want to get the rest of the questions for you. Yeah. Anybody else? I'm sorry. Okay. My question is um are the are they
replacing these pilings or they never existed before? I believe they are in addition, right? They are in addition to support and and are the docks somehow collapsing? Is that why you need additional support? Okay. Again, I will the applicant is his
request. Okay. So, that's good. Uh applicant please make your presentation identify yourself and name business and affiliation. Good morning uh Anthony Santella president uh board of directors of Seagate of Highland. So what had
happened we had a small area where two of the joists weren't properly supported from new and they sank. JTK came several vendors came in and made their presentations. JTK made the
best one and what and they did do a visual inspection and they said these this other area which hasn't collapsed is also jeopardized. It's not done properly and it was never done properly.
The fingerprints to your concern will be addressed at such time as we need a seaw wall which will not be in the in the too distant future. Right now this is a matter of keeping these things safe and secure for that period of time. Be it 3,
five, seven years at such time as the seaw wall needs to be replaced then of course the fingerprints are going to have to come off to do the job anyway. We're just looking to keep things up until that point and to the best way possible. Putting a header behind it did
not seem like a viable option because it wasn't strong enough. This was a economical long-term or relatively midterm fix to get us through that period of time and we did do some inspection and this is there was one one
area that was addressed that does need it and that's was where uh Trevor came in when I was Trevorski JKT in when I u uh was called in to uh go ahead and look over the entire dock. brought my structural uh engineer out and uh we
deemed that the particular location that the dock had collapsed needed an additional support. Then we looked in the entire dock area and these were the only two sections that needed additional support to go ahead and be up to code to a engineering's specifications.
How old were they? How old how long ago were they built? Oh, I couldn't give you an exact date of when they were put in that I don't know. So you're saying it it should have had the strong the extra ones from the beginning and believe I think Trevor believes according according to my engineer. Yes.
Okay. Yeah. That's why he's proposed the additional support to qualify for the new engineering specs. Do we have any other questions? Chair. I have some questions. Go ahead. Uh thank you guys for coming in. Um
installation of new pilings. Uh you're doing 9in piles. I believe it's specified for 10 inch. Oh it is 10 inch. Okay. to say nine looks a little small for that. So, yeah, it's actually it's not it's you can do it on any the engineer specs will be from 8 to 10. Okay. Uh you jetting them in or are you going to use a pneumatic camera and jetting?
Okay, great. Uh how about the rest of the filings? They all wrapped? Yes, they're all wrapped. Okay, great. Thank you. You're welcome. Anybody else? Okay. Um do any uh members of the public have any comment like to come up and
talk about this application? Okay. Um, do the board members do we have any other questions? Anything outstanding before we close the public hearing? Okay, the public hearing is now
closed. Um, do I have a motion to approve, approve with conditions or to deny this request? Motion to approve, Miss Rickle. I'll second it. Uh, Miss Gaskins, can you claw the role? Vice Chairperson Rosen,
Chairperson Mlesson, yes. Member Bobby, yes. Member David, yes. Member Axer, yes. And member Powell, yes. The motion carries. Okay. Thank you very much. Good luck. Thank you very much.
Um, okay. Next development order application. We'll wait till then. Okay. Development order application number PZ25-30
2455 South Ocean Boulevard LLC. Application by Donald Durante Randall Stoft Architects for a major modification request to allow for the construction of a new detached garage and pickle ball court for the property
located at 2455 South Ocean Boulevard. Do any board members have any ex party communications to disclose? chair. I had a uh conversation with both the property owner to the north of this and the south because I'm socially uh
connected to both of them. Okay. Um Len, I don't think that's okay. Good. No, that's that's proper. Okay, good. Um at this time, I now open the public hearing. Town planner Anner
Allen, please present the application. Okay. Uh so for this particular request, pages 80 through 100 again are the duplicates of the 11 by17 sheets. So um you can disregard those. Um there was an email sent by the town clerk on October
8th to the board. Uh we went ahead and attached the noise regulations. Um uh board member Bobby had requested the current noise regulations in the town code. So those were provided to all the board members. And let's go ahead and look at the areas. Again, these are in
your packet. Here we have the subject property. Um, here's the front of the property. You could see some of the mature landscaping and we have also some photos here. These were taken on September 25th of the front.
And again, you could see some of those hedges that um are along the front property line. The applicant is requesting a major modification to allow for the construction of a new detached multi-car garage and pickle ball court. Uh the
proposed pickleball court will be built on top of the detached garage. Uh section 30-67B of the town code permits accessory uses in the RE zoning district, which is a residential estate zoning district. I've gone ahead and provided you on page 70 of your packets
a definition of what an accessory use is in the code. And I'll go ahead and read in the record. It's a permitted use that is customarily associated with the principal use of or structure. It is located on the same lot as a principal use or structure. It is clearly incidental to the principal use and is
subordinate in area extent or purpose to and serves only the principal use. Uh right below that I provided you the definition uh or the description I should say of what a major modification is in our code. Uh the proposed request includes a detached garage at 1,800
square ft. There's a corresponding staircase at 75 square f feet and then the pickle ball court is at 1,800 square f feet. Uh section 30-68E4 of the town code states that tennis court fences shall not exceed 10 ft in height and shall be concealed from the
public. Now, I do want to make clear to the board, the town code is is uh silent on pickle ball courts. There's not even a reference to anything pickle ball. Um, so I put in parenthesis there that, you know, obviously a pickle ball fence is comparable to a tennis court fence,
right? So, um, the pickle ball fence that is proposed is at 8t, which obviously is in compliance with the height, um, or the tennis court fence. And the applicant is proposing to conceal the street view of the fence with a 4ft high masonary planter. Above that planter, there'll be a 4ft portion
of the fence, which will be concealed by a dense Confederate jasmine vine. This vine is 10 to 12 in thick. This is per their landscape plan. Um the runners are five to six feet in height. Uh the applicant is also proposing new landscaping on the north and west side
of the pickle ball court including a mix of trees and palms uh ranging from the height of 6 feet to 20 to 24 ft. Again, this is on the landscape plan um in your packets. Uh there's also currently a 6 foot high CBS wall and an approximate 20
to 20 foot high hedge that spans the entire front property line. Again, you could see a little bit of it right there. in that picture. Um uh with the exception of the gate along the existing driveway, you have current mature plantings along the front um and the south property lines which include date
palms uh that are 30 ft in height. You could see those a little bit in this picture in the front. And then you have also Brazilian beauty leaf. Those are about 12 feet. And again, all these plants can be seen on the tree disposition plan which is also in your packets. They are keeping all the trees
that are on the property. They're relocating one live oak and that will remain on the property just being relocated. So, let's go ahead and look at the plan sheets. This is the survey of the property. Um, here you have an a sort of a
description if you wish of the height of these hedges and other mature plantings at the front of the property. Um you could see there's that reference to the 20 to 22 foot height hedge and then they have the height of the date palms at 30 feet.
Um here you have the site plan and then you have a more uh the enlarged site plan here. This is the multi-car garage and then here you have the pickle ball court and what that's going to look like. And here we have the elevations. Uh this
is the south uh the top one. Can't see that one. That's the south elevation on the top. And then you have the uh west elevation on the bottom. And then you have on the top the north
elevation and the east elevation on the bottom. And here you have some building sections showing the garage how that will look.
And then here you have um some v uh photographs that the applicant has provided on the landscape plan. And here you have the various plantings here on the landscape plan. Again, to the north and to the west, there's
several uh as I said, trees, palms, and other shrubs. Um, and then here you have battery just fell out. So think this should work. It worked yesterday. Anyways, um on the top left corner there,
um on the top left corner, uh you will see a detail of the landscaping. um on the fence and you'll see the reference to the 10 foot to 12 foot vine thickness the top left corner there
and here you have the table which indicates the trees and the palms the shrubs and ground cover that's going to be proposed and here you have the tree disposition plan which identifies all the existing trees and this is the corresponding table indicating that they will all
remain and as I mentioned earlier There will be one my vote that will be relocated. Uh section 30-22 of the town code indicates when acting in a decision-making capacity, the planning board shall approve, approve with conditions or deny applications for development approval, which includes
major modifications. If the request is approved by the planning board prior to initiation of construction, the applicant will be required to obtain a building permit. A commencement of construction of the approved major modification shall be initiated within two years following the date of approval by the planning board. Staff has
reviewed the applicant's proposed request including the plans date stamp received by the building department on September 23rd, 2025 and finds that the project is consistent with the town code. I'll be glad to address any questions. We also have the applicants agent here to address any questions as well.
Okay. Do any board members have questions for staff? Um, Ingred, uh, how many how many car garage is it? I couldn't really tell. Is it I believe in the in the No, when you
look at the plan, it's nine. I thought it was nine. I thought it was nine and then I thought, no. Okay. Um, okay. And um Okay,
let's let's uh have the applicant make their presentation now. Good morning. Don Duranti with Randleoft Architects. I don't have a formal presentation. Um I think Ingred did a fine job presenting the project, but I'll be more than happy to answer any
questions or concerns. Yes, ma'am. The one question that I have is based on the public comment is about the noise and the reverberation of the noise. Yes, ma'am. I think all of us live in places where we hear the echoes coming from
pickle ball. Um, are you assuming that the bushes and the development around the court will muffle it and keep it from progressing uh too far away? Is that the goal? Yes, we do believe that the landscape architect is
also here. He could probably address that a little further than I can. But in addition to that, um there are paddles and there are pickle balls that are quiet um that the applicant or excuse me, the owner would would like to use to help in
addition to um you know to reduce some of the noise. So, just to clarify that statement, if it was an approval with a condition to only use the soft I think they're called soft balls and and paddles, a no-n noise balls is
Thank you. A no- noise ball and and paddle. Would that be acceptable? I believe so. We can Yes, it would be. We're just trying to understand the limits and the and the sound. I think we've all been affected by by the sound
and we're just trying to understand. Okay. Okay. Yes. I I think that um that's correct. We at Tuscana we wound up not allowing pickle ball because there were a lot of complaints about it.
wasn't the only reason. But but um it sounds like you have that with the plantings and the no noise balls, what however it is. It sounds like you've you you've addressed that. We have and we we were very sensitive to
that um from the beginning and we do believe that the landscape plan that was developed um does comply with that. Okay. Chairman, may I ask a question too? Please. I have your question. Uh uh first question. We've we've covered it with the no-n noiseise balls, but actually I believe you guys told the
neighbor to the north that you would in fact commit to no noise balls at all times and never not use them. So that is definitely okay for condition. Yes, that is correct. Perfect. Because that has been that was a complaint from both the north and the south. The north side didn't complain. Yes, they said they're okay with that. The south side was concerned about the noise. And then the only other question
I do have for Len is um we read the noise ordinances for the town which mostly refers to the state. Does regular pickle balls uh that are roughly somewhere around 60 to 70 decibb
violate our code or not? If they choose to at some point say, "Yeah, I know I committed to doing that, but I'm not going to do it anymore." Well, if they've committed to do it and it's a condition of approval, we can enforce that condition of approval permanently. Permanently. Okay. So, our noise ordinance, I don't know
the last time anyone ever looked at it. Um, very subjective. Um, you know, noise is a is a very difficult thing to address because even if you have decibel limits, then the measurement becomes a difficult task. Um, ours is very
subjective. I guess we haven't had many noise problems in the town of Highland Beach because the code is what it is, but yes, that would it would stay with the approval. Great. Um, I don't think the landscaping will do anything for regular ball noise, but the no noise ball solves the
problem. So, okay. Okay. Are there any members of the public who wish to comment on this application in any way? Okay. Um any final questions from board members of anybody?
Okay. The public hearing is now closed and let's entertain a motion to go forward with this. Does someone want to chair? I'll make a motion to approve with conditions of uh use of no noise balls and paddles. Second.
Okay. Um okay. Miss Gaskins, can you please call the role? Member Bobby. Yes. Member David, yes. Member Brown is I'm sorry. Member Axarrod. Yes. Member Pal, yes.
Vice Chairperson Rosen, yes. And chairperson Mendelson, yes. Motion carries. Great. Thank you very much. Great. We all want to come over for pickle. Okay, so let's move on. Next.
Okay. Seems like everybody else is here for this. Um, development order application number PZ2532, Robert Hammond. Application by William Thomas, Unlimited Permit Services, Inc.
for an amendment to a previously approved special exception request number PZ-24-15 to increase the height of the seaw wall from 6.5 ft NAVD to 6.83
ft NAVD. Increase the seaw wall cap width from 36 in to 45 in. Change the configuration of the dock, including an increase in the number of dock piles from 9 to 13.
Increase the dock from 297.5 square ft to 362 ft. and modify the water word the water the water ward extension of an approved 16,000 pound capacity elevator boat lift
from 21 ft to 22'6 in measured from the wet face of the seaw wall for the property located at 4203 Tranquility Drive. Okay. At this time, does any board member have any ex part a com
conversation communications? No. Okay. At this time, I now open the public hearing. Town planner Allen, please present the application. All right. Lenalda, I think I'm having an issue bringing back up the PowerPoint. It won't let me share the screen now.
Can I what? But I am in a I just two years ago a year ago obviously a while ago. So where I go here?
Oh yeah at least. was telling me they paid me the meeting. You know, I don't think I mean I I get it. Never mind. just the underlying. Yeah. See,
bear with us. Apparently, I was automatically signed out somehow. See, it still won't let me join. Now what happens? Yeah. Usually there's that share screen. Oh, maybe it's that. Usually it's right here. red. Okay. But
wait, now my PowerPoint isn't up here though. Down here. Wait, I didn't see it. Here it is. There it is. Okay. Okay. Six left.
Okay, we're back in business. Okay. Uh so for this particular item, pages 153 through 161 are the duplicate sheets of the 11 by17 plan. So again, you can disregard those. Uh we did receive uh public comment for this uh
particular item. Uh that public comment was emailed uh to the board on October 7th by the town clerk. So you should have a copy of that. And we'll go ahead with the aerials of the property. Again, these are in your packet. Oh.
Oh, I think the aerials got removed. Well, anyways, they are in your packet. Um you could see that the subject property is uh currently currently vacant. Uh that uh uh property that uh photo that
you have the aerial that's from the Palm Beach County property appraiser and that's taken from January of 2025. Um on the top of page 108 I provided you some property history. I'll just go over that briefly. On November 14th of 2024
the planning board granted a site plan approval. That was application PZ-24-8. This was for a new twostory 612 ft² single family residence with a pool and jacuzzi. And on December 12th of 2024, the planning board granted a
special exception that was PZ number- 24-15 to install a 136 foot 6in seaw wall along with an associated seaw wall cab, a 296.5T dock, and a 16,000lb capacity elevator
boat lift. Now, the applicant's request, as the chair just indicated, I'll just go back through this, uh, is an amendment. So, they're amending that previously approved special exception. you just don't come in with the new one. We have one on file, right? Approved. So, they amend that one. So, again, um
that's to increase the height of the seaw wall from 6.5 ft NAV to 6.8 ft NAVD. Now, I just want do want to clarify that the length of the seaw wall is not changing. That is again still at 136t 6 in. Um now, when the seaw wall
was approved in 2024, the base at elevation at the time was 6 feet pending seven. Okay. So now it's at seven, but given the co the code reads that the seaw walls on the west side of A1A have to be at six feet uh excuse me at
baseful elevation or higher. So they do have the ability to go higher and we do have approval from the uh Florida Department of Environmental Protection of okay with that height. Um they're increasing the seaw wall cap again from 36 in to 45 in. They're changing the
configuration of the approved 85 foot long dock. So again, their previous approval was for an 80 foot long dock, but now they're breaking it down to a lower dock at 30 ft and an upper dock at 55 ft and including an increase in the number of dock piles from 9 to 13. Again, they're increasing the dock from
297.5 ft to 362. And they're modifying the waterward extension of the approved 16 thou,000lb capacity elevator boat lift. So again, that's already approved. It's just now we have the new regulation, right? that that was adopted at the beginning of
this year that you can only go 25 ft or 25%. When they got this approved in December, this regulation didn't apply. So, we did want to call out how far they're they're going a little bit further into the waterway. So, that is called out as well. Um, as I mentioned, the property is currently vacant based
on the aerials that you have in your packet. Uh, the lot previously contained a one-story single family home that according to the Palm Beach County property appraiser was built in 199 1982. There is a demolition permit on file with the building department uh that was issued on August 1st of 2024.
Now on page 112 of your packets, the applicant has provided a table which is very helpful. I had asked the applicant for this to to make it very clear as to what was previously approved and what the changes are to that previous special exception. So that's all documented here
and obviously incorporated into the staff report. Um the applicant uh has obtained FD authorization. The file number is provided on page 108 of your packets. Um when you look at that FD approval, it indicates that a separate Army Corps of Engineer approval is not
required. Uh the proposed amendment is in compliance with the maximum combined seaw wall cap and dock width of 8 ft. There's a 25 ft required marine site setback given it's located in the single family zoning district RS. Uh they are in compliance with the waterward
extension of excess marine facilities to again either 25 ft or 25% of the waterway. The waterway here is 100 ft. It is documented in the plans. So obviously their um boat lift extends 22 feet 6 in which is within that 25 ft. Uh
section 30-67B indicates that docks, seaw walls, boat lifts in the residential zoning districts require a special exception approval. The board may approve approved conditions or deny their special exception request. Um we have plan uh plan state stamp received
September 18th of 2025. the project is in is consistent with the special exception provisions of section 30-36 of the town code where applicable and consistent with the town comprehensive plan and town code. Again, I'll be glad to address any questions. We also have the authorized agent here, uh, Mr.
William Thomas, to address any questions. Okay. Um, board member questions for staff. I have one. Is there, if I'm missing it, I'm sorry. Is there a picture showing the back of the 4203 and
the where they match up to the one on South Ocean Boulevard cuz you could pick on Yeah. No, I I was there yesterday, but it's like that there's now a big house there, so it's sort of hard to see. And I was just wondering if I see that on
the map, but I was wondering if anyone took a picture. Got the page 114. Did that help you at all or not? Let me see. That's the rear of the property. Yeah. No. Yeah. It's hard to Okay. It's hard to gauge where the ocean property
is, but I guess it's one of those condos there. So, okay. That that was my question, but because I think it'll be relevant. Um, anybody else? Greg, do you have uh uh I have uh questions for um Bill Thomas. Okay. So, if no one else has questions for
Miss Allen, uh, can the applicant representative come up, please? Good morning. My name is William Thomas, Unlimited Permanent Services, 902 Northeast First Street, Pmpo Beach, Florida. Okay, questions.
Good to see you again, Bill. It's been a long time. Yes, very long. Uh, my main question is the elevator lift. Yes. Uh, there's two types. There's the angled pilings at 30 and this is and there's vertical. You're doing the vertical. Is that correct? No, it should be an angled boat lift.
You can put a straight up and down boat lift with that much weight as it goes down. So, it is an angled. It looked It looked like in one of the drawings it was a vertical. That's why I was asking. No. Yeah, I can't. That's won't support the weight. Okay. But just quick history. When we originally got the approval for the dock
and the seaw wall, the house was under construction. It's now at a certain point. So, we raised the seaw wall up 4 in just to match the pool deck so there's not a tripper hazard. While the dock was getting built, the owner realized that he'd like a lower dock section. So, in order to do that, we
made it just a little bit wider and added some additional piles. While the wall was under construction, everything wasn't perfectly straight. So, they increased the seaw wall cap just a little bit to make a nice straight line. So, those are the changes that we're
here requesting approval for. So my question is um how much does it impact what you see from across the way as opposed to what you would have seen under what was approved right now? Well, we're talking 9 in and 4 in.
Okay. Okay. And if you can see that from 100 ft away, you have pretty good eyes. Does anyone else have questions for the applicant? Okay. Um, are there any members of the public
that would like to speak? Please come up and identify yourself. Hi, I'm Mike Thorson. I am a resident of 4206 South Ocean Air Condominiums. We live across the street or across the canal. Um, I I don't have any problem
with most of the items, but it was interesting that you asked what you can see across the canal with the sea caps. It's the dock that we're concerned about, adding so much more to the dock. My wife and I and John and Mary also
have been residents for about 30 years, you know, here. Um, we love it, you know, we love the tranquility on Tranquility Drive until recently. Um, and uh, you know, but nothing, you know, we we I
I have a special insight into this. I used to be a marathoner. my knees betrayed me. So now I'm a kayaker. I have a fitness app. I've put 1500 miles on my kayak in the last 3 years down every canal up and down the inter coastal everywhere. And I've managed to see a lot of construction going on and a
lot of good things and a lot of things that a lot of houses that kind of impose over the other ones that look totally out of place because they're so much larger than the other ones. Now, we can't stop what's already been done and approved and I understand the reason why. you know, it's it it's code, it's
everything else, but our main our main concern is expanding that dock anymore. That's a lot of pylons put out there. And to kind of answer your earlier question, yes, we'll be able to see that quite quite clearly as we can see everything about that house across the
uh across the canal there. So, um you know, we're concerned it already looks like a wall across the street pretty much. Um, we're just concerned with with more dockage in the canal, more things to look at out our window, uh, the boat
lift and everything else. Um, you know, we'd ask that you would deny the application. You have a letter from me that I think it it states a little more clearly and I know some other people sent some letters. So, I ask that you take the public's opinion into this.
Can I ask a question? Yeah. um in describing the change, you know, the the expansion of the dock, and I'm not trying to belittle you at all. You can't do that either.
When you when you look across, can you really will you be able to tell the difference from what's already, I think, fairly imposing with with the extra 300 ft they want to add and the the the extra 30% of pylons? Oh yeah.
Okay. And is that is there forget it. I I don't know how to formulate this question. I I think um my question is for Mr. Thomas is
is it 300 ft wider like going out into the water? Address the gentleman's comments. the additional Yeah, go ahead. You switch places for a sec. Just switch for one second. Thank you, sir. His first comments about the additional piles. The piles were put on the inside
of the dock to help support the lower dock section. So, you're you're not going to see any additional piles on the outside. Those are all going to be underneath the dock. And it's 300 square ft, not 300 square feet wide. I think we went 18 in further out. The dock is 9 in
wider. So, we're not So, how do you get to the I'm sorry, the math is making sense to me. How do you get to the 300 square feet? It's the length of the dock times not whatever. It was originally proved that he said 18. I I'll get
135 ft times a foot would I got that part, but that isn't what he just said. Not 300 square feet more. It's a total including what had previously been approved. So, how much more? So, how much more? That's what my
confusion is. How much more is it? We have it here. One second. It's uh I could take 362US 297, right? It looks like it's 60 and a half 60 ft. If I can add. So, the previous stock was
approved at 85 ft by 3'6 in. The newly proposed is 85 ft by 4' 3 in. Okay. Thank you. And Ingred, what's the total between the dock and the cap? Um, if you look at your sheet two of
eight, the dock and the cap. Let's see here. So, the dock is 4.3 4T and then the cap was what the 3 point 3 point uh 45 in. It's 45 in. Okay. So yeah, if you go to the sheet
two, um it calls out the dock here. So you have from the wet face to the edge of the dock is 6'4 in and then the cap is does it fit within our 8 ft? Yes, it does.
That was really my question is that it fits within the 8T. Yeah, if you look probably a better sheet to look at is sheet number four because there you could see the property line. You could see the path is at 3 feet 9 in. Let's go to that real quick.
Okay. Back to the Can I say something to probably clarify the whole Sure. But you must identify yourself first. My name is Darren Donley. I'm uh owner of Seedar Builders. I'm building actual house and the seaw wall. Okay. I I understand your concerns, but
what you're looking at right now is form work. The forms, I think they're 24 in tall. This dock is only going to be 10 in. So once all that formwork is removed, it's it's not going to look as big as it
is. And it hasn't changed from day one from what from the original uh approval. We're still 85 ft. We're just a little bit further out. And I don't think you can determine that. So I I think the problem is the formwork and the piles
are buried underneath the dock. And I don't think there's any way you could see those. So that's hopefully that makes sense. Yeah. I I I think he's clarify that a little more for us. And uh as long as they're they're kind of hidden more than we would see them. You know, I I've just
seen I've seen some pretty amazing things to put it nicely going on. and I just don't want to be another uh neighbor subject into something like that. So, thank you all for listening. Sir, may I ask a question or two of you? Um uh take your comments very seriously.
So, yeah, thank you. Um so, we've got a seaw wall and a seaw wall has pilings every 10 to 12 feet anyway. And they're batter pilings, so they're kind of angled pilings. Um and you said you don't like the the look of the pilings. If there was no dock, there
would still be pilings all the way down the wall. Yeah. No, no, I understand that. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. I just don't want a whole lot more out of it. Got it. Yeah, but there would be the whole length no matter what. Yeah. Yeah. Would have to be. Okay. Thank you all. Thank you. Any other public people want
to speak? Okay. Uh anybody I'm sorry if I just may. So here's the um detail. You could see here at the top is a 3 foot 9 in seaw wall cap to Miss David's question. And then you have the dock at 4T 3 in and you could see the 8
foot measurement right there. So it is compliance with the 8T. Okay. Any more questions by anybody to anybody? Therefore, the public hearing is now closed. Do I have a motion?
I move we approve application number PZ-25-35. Second. Second. Okay. Uh, can you please call the role, Miss Gaskins? Member David? Yes. Member Axarrod. Approved. Yes. Me. Member Bobby. Yes.
Member Powell. Yes. Vice Chairperson Rosen. Yes. And chairperson Melson. Yes. The motion carries. Okay. Announcements. October 14th at 1, special magistrate hearing. November 4th at 1:30 town
commission meeting. and November 13th back here at 9:30 a.m. for the planning board meeting. The meeting is adjourned at 10:17. Thank you all for your participation.