sorry your your moment of calling to order is not on camera I apologize Um fire access are to my left and right of council chambers Uh roll call please Mayor Foster George Council Member Hail here Council
Member Her here Council President Kenhan here Council member Piston here Council member Vargas here Attorney Tony Shaw here Administrator Hub here Okay So tonight we have three discussion items
Uh Terry do you want to jump right in into North Second Avenue redevelopment sure Thanks And uh Council Hil chime in But but essentially um with regard to 810 North Second Avenue which
if you may remember last year we adopted a redevelopment plan uh for basically the adaptive reuse of a small lab building on North Second Avenue kind of in between Cleveland and Wayside Drive Um and actually I have a couple of
slides I did uh pull up but we've been working and when I say we um uh Chris Cassenza and myself as staff have been working with the property owner now on the property toward a compliant plan uh
you know basically a plan for the site that complies with the redevelopment plan that was adopted And we're finally at that point And one of the things that we all discussed there was some uh neighbor feedback when we adopted the plan So we did hold a a community a neighbor meeting where we introduced
them to the team that's going to be rehabbing the property and they presented their concepts asked questions and um and so but coming out of that meeting there was some feedback but was mostly about construction management Wouldn't you say Matt and kind of some
being sensitive to the neighbors during construction Um I think they were generally um comfortable with the proposal and felt like their concerns have been listened to So with that um procedurally the next step for them to
proceed with their project first they need to have a redevelopment agreement in place with the bureau because this is in a redevelopment area under the rehab statute Uh but still it's a redevelopment plan and and um redevelopment plan requires
uh a agreement between us and the entity that's developing the property Um this is a I do have a draft of the redevelopment agreement which I can circulate after the meeting but when you see it it's a very vanilla It's basically this is the project and you're
going to do it and you can go to the planning board and then their next move is to go to the planning board plan with you They can't do that unless there's an agreement in place with the burrow That's one of the conditions of our redevelopment plan So what I wanted to do tonight was just kind of give you a similar presentation to what the
neighbor saw just to catch you up with where the project is Um and if you're comfortable with where we are um I'd like to put a a resolution together with Joe Bowman's help uh uh to authorize this redevelopment agreement So let me
just maybe make most sense to walk through the slides and then we can talk about it Does that work Matt yeah The only thing I would add is that the meeting talk the meeting that we had between the redevelopment or the team doing this and the neighbors I thought went really well They you know they they
asked good questions They asked you know like to they they they they didn't come in just sort of um fighting each other They they they came in I think sort of trying to figure out making sure everybody was heard everybody had good good thoughts and ideas and um and I
think it it went really well Um so uh so I think that that you know the neighbors know that it's it's it's coming They know what it is and I think they're they're pretty happy They're okay with it is is how I would say it
Um and and the uh just as a reminder um this is the first page of the redevelopment plan It's a little bit far for some of us but that's the building kind of looking at it going you're looking towards Cleveland with your back kind of at wayside um on the corner there I'm going to show a couple other
slides from uh the plan So where my hand is shaking over there that's the site This is you know hard to see from there but uh just so you know And then that's just another view of the building Again I know I personally and I don't live far away I must have gone past it a hundred
times without noticing it once It's it's kind of nondescript What's interesting about it is it's one story at the front and it kind of goes up to a twotory in the back Uh the front was kind of an add-on uh to the building at some point historically
Um uh that's just another view And so we had really good representation Uh this is the site here Here's the Wayside Road Here's North Second Here's Cleveland And neighbors from across the street neighbors from behind you know directly kind of adjacent to the property were
able to attend So that was really great Um so this is probably hard to read from there and I apologize I'm going to see if I can zoom in Just give me a second Um sorry it's a little bit of a delay
Sorry it's a little easier So this is basically the survey for the property and and and it's what they've updated in order to kind of present what they intend to do And just to orient you at the bottom is uh North Second and to
your left is Cleveland and your right is Wayside So the property the footprint of the building isn't changing one iota The height is the same Everything else is the same So essentially what they've done is they've provided four parking spaces here ADA compliant That was an
important thing with this project and our uh redevelopment plan requires one space per unit So what they are proposing is four units They had looked at different configurations but the finances just didn't work Um and it was
just much more involved and this was something they thought they could support Um the uh in the back is where they'll be storing uh the totters for garbage and they can bring them around So right now they're stored here So I think that will be an improvement
There's a little bit of a kind of a shed roof back here that is being removed as required by the plan Uh they're going to put an awning Um but that's also where they'll have bicycle storage covered bicycle storage for the occupants And we'll also be providing bike storage in
the units as well if requested that you know through hooks things like that So trying to think about you know multimodal to the extent we can and being so close to New Brunswick and everything Um and that's about it And then just around this left kind of portion there's some pavement they're
actually pulling up Um it is pretty much 100% impervious coverage as it is They're pulling this up in part uh to reduce the impurish coverage and there's also some of that pavement is not on their property So they're also pulling back off where appropriate Um there's a
fence that does uh you know screen from the neighboring house that belongs to the neighboring house Um so there will be slightly less pvious pavement I impervious pavement when they're done but mostly kind of this cleanup along
the perimeter and and somewhat back here There is a big retaining wall at the rear of the property that's actually on the neighbor's property Um so they're really not proposing any change to the way storm water drains from the site And we haven't heard of any nuisance issues
through the course of this project And then I'm going to flip to you and I'm not the best at explaining floor plans but just to give you an idea Sorry that a little smaller so it fits Um ask AI assistant Leave me alone Um
but essentially on the first level there's three units and uh this is kind of what they're calling unit one They're two-bedroom units Um unit two and unit three here Bedroom bathroom you know the
usual uh things you'd have Um there is on the second floor um that's the basement um which is not going to be open to the tenants uh but it is maintenance area for the owners of the building and the maint to maintain
the building and then there's a unit on the top uh as well and you'll access through some stairs in the building Um so it's pretty straightforward Again two bedrooms Here were some renderings I should emphasize as they did These are
highly conceptual It's just to give a feeling for the colors and the palette and some of the materials they may look This is not the windows where they're going to be You know this is really more to give a feel I could also say you know they don't have a front lawn like that
uh to play with And they don't expect a Ferrari in the back Yeah They don't uh the the what's challenging with landscaping is the front of the building is right on the sidewalk So they they've got probably a three to four foot strip to work with but they are going to
refresh it Um they have those you know and try to just dress it up to the best of their abilities Um I think that might be my last image So essentially uh this is what they're doing They're putting a residential use It is an apartment building for family
in a residential primarily neighborhood Um and we think it fits and we'd like to recommend it move ahead Um you know at this point it's it's up to the planning board to review from our perspective that they've answered the feasibility questions that we feel comfortable
recommending to the council and that we move it ahead They they their target market just to say is they they think that it's going to be commuters people who are want to take a a either a bike or a scooter to the train station to go to New York or Philly or something It's
going to be young professionals is uh who they're anticipating that's the market And one of the one of the current concerns that was raised by some of the neighbors I wouldn't say all uh was what about parking because the odds are there may not be just four cars related to
four units Um and it's our estimation not we didn't do a formal study but having I live in that area I know there there is on street parking on second um to especially to accommodate guests that may come and go There may be days like
if someone else is having a gathering or you know there's like in any neighborhood there may be days where it's trickier than others but we feel pretty confident um it can accommodate that they they have what they need to to make it work Um uh so that I I just wanted to reflect that one concern to
come up Question Um so with four units would one of them be affordable or they're just they don't they couldn't make it work that was the one of the the we don't have the ability to do any kind of financial incentives on the site at least not tax ones because it's not in a
redevelopment area And um when they looked at the numbers and the amount of con the construction costs went up a lot to try to fit the fifth unit or the sixth unit depending on what they were looking at two options The parking was a constraint on that too because we
required one per unit and as you saw four just kind of fits They could have demolished a portion of the building and gotten a fifth unit but when they ran their numbers they couldn't make it work and our ordinance only requires it above four units So we we didn't impose that
Well that's okay We still need more housing That's kind of the where I landed on it I was disappointed for sure but but more housing and it's a different kind of housing in this neighborhood It'll be interesting to see I I tend to agree that there you know somebody who has a lot of cars isn't going to be necessarily attracted to
that location Uh or have need to have a parking spot right outside their house That's not necessarily going to be for them So it'll be interesting to see but it's again four units The impact I think is manageable I love it Let's move it
That would be my recommend So um we're putting the res So yeah Any other questions but I I appreciate they've been good to work with Um and um I should mention they're also from town They're local They're local just a kind of a partnership of a few members that
have bought a couple of their properties in town and they saw this opportunity and um you know jumped on it Were there any any discussion about I I think it looks it looks beautiful I mean that that rendering was actually was very Yeah I I just it has no trees or
neighbors or anything you know like so I just don't want anybody to think it's going to look just like that But I agree I mean that type of housing is important It's kind of that light up zone you know kind of feel and I think it really does serve a really demographic But um is there um was there any discussion about
landscaping or we before is Yeah we did I thought it would probably be something they present more at the planning board Uh we they the plan does indicate they are supposed to refresh the front and I'm sure we'll advise them to do native as best we can but they really have very
little area to work with Is there anything that they can do on the as Phil George says on the verge is that or is that is that well right yeah So I mean it's it's again very very narrow I mean we could certainly look I don't even recall if there's a street tree or if
one could go there We could certainly talk about that Cool Um I have to look Jason That's right I don't know Was there any talk of any green design standards or environmentally friendly i mean again it's a it's a it's a small project It
was it was difficult Well I mean they're going to use Energy Star you know appliances and things like that but we didn't really push these that because it's you know we felt like some of the sustainability cred is the fact that they're using the building that they're in as opposed to knocking it all down
and throwing it in the garbage So I felt like that had always in that regard too So yeah but that's a that's a fair point too There's you know there may just be things that aren't necessarily that are like more or less I didn't have any obvious ones to suggest and nor did
Chris but you know we can certainly encourage it Maybe like electrical appliances that are like similar cost and it's just a matter of thinking to make that choice It's a good point Nothing too you know no green roofs Yeah green roofs I don't
know that building can support one It would be cool in a smaller electrical I don't know Well right It's worth the discussion Yeah I mean I have no skin in that I mean we can certainly maybe what we could do is give them some
flexibility but put it in the agreement that that we want to see that they've made it steps toward things like this And then that way they have to kind of Yeah that we can hold to that a little bit I don't see that being a huge lift Um
good Terry is is that that building isn't in use now right but it's always open What do you mean like like it's open You could just go in there At one point it wasn't like I didn't know if it you tried to go in there Well they miss the
a FedEx package was delivered there by mistake and so you can just go in there I didn't I thought it was in use Sounds like you're having fun in buildings No I didn't know that I mean now that somebody I don't know how long ago that happened Yeah Yeah The they've they've
owned the property I don't think a year Um so I would hope they would have secured the property but I could certainly mention it Yeah Okay I have not heard it and there are a lot of neighbors who have very close eyes on the place and they didn't bring it up in our meeting
It was there was a time where it was for sale where I could see maybe that the realtor didn't secure the place or something like that That that was a Um okay Cool Thank you Um that's cool
Yeah No I'm I'm happy that they you know and the New Jersey film ready Um I'll just jump in I mean we did discuss this at the last economic development meeting but essentially we're pursuing film ready certification
The state of New Jersey has a film ready commission uh to support basically um the industry that they're trying to build in New Jersey And one of the things towns can do is make themselves basically more friendly and ready to go
should a film set film crew need a set that looks like Highland Park in some way shape or form or a building So there are some steps we have to take The first and I'm cheating by looking at the list here is how to become a film ready community workshop which RetU has taken
Uh Chief Abrams went to see to one that specific to law enforcement So we've now met that criteria Um we're going to have to designate a film ready liaison who will probably be it has it's a staff person but probably myself or Rujuda Um
it's kind of like the lead person on it from a staff perspective Um and then we have to adopt a formal permit process And the best way to do that is by an ordinance And in my you don't have to do an ordinance but that seems to be standard practice It also allows you the
benefit of fees Uh you can establish you can have permit fees to to do So that's a slight small revenue stream But I should point out that one of the major perks of this program is not just the fees that the municipality can make for either permitting or use of its own
facilities but it's the kind of spin-off benefits to the community when a crew comes in town and buys you know 50 cups of coffee from Duncan and Pentock you know buys their catering from Marray you know what have you Um there'sund at at a
regular film shoot There's at least 150 people who need to be fed And the quickest way to make that happen is to go to some place in town and get 150 people fed And that's an enormous benefit for you know any of our restaurants That's a that's a big deal And in addition they they want to know
any people who are in your community that might have skills that work well for crews like filming videographers photographers uh you know all that stuff So Bill George can build a set I know Yeah exactly They want to know because they they you know they don't want to
you know the less shleing they have to do uh that is is better And basically um we would do an ordinance that would basically enable the permitting process set the parameters also for when you need like police approval and and hours
of operation things like that There's a thankfully the state actually did do a model ordinance unlike with some other of their initiatives in the last few years uh that have been complicated for towns And in this case um it's pretty straightforward We have a draft We're
going to share it with Sapna because I know you've worked with your communities and some other towns to adopt similar ordinances especially to see we want to be competitive with our fees you know for what we've got Well what we will also get to do and this is kind of the
fun brainstorm part is upload locations either municipally controlled locations that we think would be good potential sets So this room that we're sitting in I've actually been approached before about I need a courtroom and I need it you know in this part of there And so
evenual even our modest you know not every place has to be fancy like you know they have they need all kinds of film sets So we would we would put this up and then we'd have a photo and you know and then it enables that crew to decide if there's even a there there
before they waste their time my time their time you know we'd have our room occupancies all that stuff all up there ready to go So we have to we can have as many locations as we want but that you know they want us to have at least 10 you know to kind of fill out the thing So you know clearly if you have ideas
about those I mean obviously the high schools I think the high school is going to be I think we got a high school the auditorium in the high school the front of the high school the front of the high school auditorium Classic high school walk I mean it really um the doughboy the doughboy
um you know there's a lot of wait rose I mean we had potential interest in park pub that found us one time so it and so the the the flip side is we can think about municipal and public properties
but also um private properties that we would we can go and encourage them we can't do it for them but if we know of a location that unique architecture unique features and spaces We can encourage them to put their sites in there and
they can make money which is kind of nice We should and we should also have to the catering aspect we should also like go out to the restaurants and say um you have a great you have a space but also give them your menu right oh absolutely And and one of the other
steps is we in addition to the locations is local resources And what that means are um production resources but that includes catering food trucks restaurants lodging construction supplies car rentals office supplies you know security services you know you name
it If we have those kind of businesses in our town or people who run those businesses who may live in our town you know we could encourage them to submit and um be considered So um I think it it it shows it's it's I'm I'm really
pleasantly surprised with how put together this program is from the state and how easy it is to kind of follow the steps So my next step I think we're at a point where uh Ratuja and I have kind of I think got the draft has took the model and kind of adapted it We need Sapna's
uh review of it and we're waiting on we have some feedback from the police department So we might need your help on how to incorporate some of their thoughts Um but hopefully by the time I'm back from vacation we could have a draft to circulate with an eye toward
introduction at the May 6th meeting That's kind of the timeline I'm hoping for So you'll have plenty of time to look at the draft before it gets to there But um it's kind of to me a no-brainer program and even just on their own I've in the job I've gotten
calls for sets myself at least three times doing nothing you know So if we do a little proactivity I think we might be able to generate some interest Um and and the mayor and too bad she's not here because she's met with mayors from towns that have done really well with this
program Granted they're like the ones with like Civil War battlefield type properties and stuff like that's what I imagine anyway But but still it's you know I they got to have everybody's a set you know it doesn't there's no limit Um I when I was thinking about this the other day and I forgot to mention it to
you is is I think one of the things also in our packet and this is done I'm assuming we're all on board with this um staging areas because one of the places one of the things they need is trailers and yeah that is a challenge that's going to be a challenge for us is that we need to and and you know we do have
some possibilities over on you know Madison and fourth or something like that but thereabouts somewhere well we have that I mean but also the county but then the county is bus the parks are busy So taking over their parking lot you know so that's going to be the
logistics for the trailers is not challenge is where we put those But I'd rather you know let's jump off that bridge when we get to the bridge They do it in New York City They figure it out They figure it out So right in um and I do there are areas but we just have to
be creative about it and that you know that's part of the the course So just wanted to let you guys know this is something we've been working on Seems like um you know there's a a way forward
and um hopefully by May we can adopt by the end of May and then you know we've already started working on some of the the locations but we can certainly send an email around just saying give us your ideas or teacher may do a Google sheet or something so you can kind of
brainstorm that way Um because I don't think there really are no bad ideas because I couldn't believe it when they wanted Park I was like really like yeah that's the kind of place we were looking for you know so it really you know it's it could be anything We had to think
about doing a a Facebook post that people send in ideas for for you know just like ahead of time especially to kind of promote it to a Google form or something right like like we're going after this and so give us your ideas give us your thoughts or give us your talents certainly
especially once we've got it set up because then also if that catches the eye of some of these vendors then they would know how to then they can go in and set up they can they can set up in the system too No I like that idea Sure Um uh so yeah I mean the river
notwithstanding the most beautiful views of the Morris and Donald Goodkind bridges that you can find in New Jersey No but the but the river is and it's it's unusual Yeah it really is And and I mean I think the you know the even the aerial views I mean are really stunning
here I I I I we we get very used to it but it really is it's quite beautiful Um uh so just just to be clear in the ordinance so we would be ordinancing the permitting and fee structure Yes that's okay So that's part of what you'll get a chance to look at So we you know for
example you know we look they range and like I need advice from our insurance carrier about you know proof of insurance for filming in burough properties So you know what I like there's certain stuff that's just we need advice on but then um you know and
hours of operation which we were going to kind of use what you currently do for other things kind of as a starting point but you know a basic filming permit in the sample was $100 East Brunswick's has a kind of a sta you know 100 to 500 probably depends on staging you know the
nature of the permit Other ones were 150 So we wanted to see kind of do a little more surveying because we don't want to I think the whole point of this program from the state's perspective is they don't want to have it be like this all over the state like it's kind of got a consistent feel So it's pretty easy to
navigate you know from place to place without it being a big rig roll And then the fees for using municipal properties We have to figure that out and base based that on what you know we have to be realistic about nature of our spaces and also um how inconvenient because if
they were going to be in here for a week that can displace a lot of activity you know so you got to make it worth your while some to some extent as well um because that's a challenge too Cool Um so yeah you'll have a chance to weigh in on all that stuff but we're going to try
to follow you know kind of best practices that have already sprung up from other towns so that we're kind of attractive to these at least that's what we're thinking Cool Any more questions
[Music] all right And then Woodbridge Woodbridge Avenue um upcoming improvements Yes I did put some slides Matt this was your idea So I should let you to show some slides of um I put together just to
share because through MP um hold on one second We have been um slowly but surely um we're chipping away at stuff to do and we just didn't want to get too far out there uh without sharing some of the
fun All righty See if it worked There we go And just minimize some of this stuff on my end Uh so basically we're looking at banners some new planters on Woodbridge Avenue and a
sidewalk cleanup that's actually underway this week Uh they're powerwashing the curbs and the sidewalks along the avenue there So uh it's a little bit of an experiment Uh so hopefully you get some good results Um so the banner project um just to
illustrate the on your left side are what's on Main Street now Um you've got like a a long narrow banner that's on the sidewalk side skinnier one and then a a wider one on the street side And they're in the process I should mention
and of redoing their banners and seeking funding to do that So we wanted to try to see if we could bring whatever we do on Woodbridge which if you look on the right hand side you'll see different shaped banner and because of the nature of the wooden poles and the heights of
our poles we can't convert to these kinds of banners because what you can't see here and the next slide is theirs are seven feet high Okay they're much bigger lengthwise and skinnier widthwise So this is the reook that Main Street is
working with So they're taking that kind of welcome and what they are now and unfortunately you can't really see it is there's some design work but then it basically says welcome in a bunch of different languages and then so we thought let's try to we want woodridge to have its own
vibe but it would be nice for them to speak to each other so they feel like we're we're all one town So one of our challenges also you could see is like where the snowflakes are and the banners is this an ongoing problem So um Main Street's new concept is and uh Gaya is
from the design committee has been the lead on this and really impressed with a lot of thought went into this What they discovered was the the banners fade a lot So they wanted to go with white lettering and darker backgrounds so that we kind of maintain a nice contrast It
it'll have a little more impact And if if you look at even this I know it's a faded picture You can see how faded these are Um and they replaced them not that long ago Um so they wanted to kind of bump them up And in the bottom and you can't see it it has the the language
of origin in small print underneath each one And so on the inside where the sidewalk is will be the long skinny Highland Park and then these are the various uh forms of welcome that they've they've used And it's it's quite an
array So taking that as inspiration we did work with a design company that had worked on the original but then uh original streetscape stuff back in the day Um but then we met with Main Street and Gaza in like a matter of 24 hours
came up with Woodridge Avenue banners using the same design There's still these are still a work in progress but we were really excited I actually meant to bring my I printed one of the welcome one out It looks actually more normal big than it does small on the
screen This doesn't reflect We'll probably need to add um a little more margin around this because of the uh the brackets and the grommets and stuff like that this was a proof of concept uh that he and I actually think that he did a
great job and essentially he's taken the feel of the Woodbridge I mean the main street banners and translated them into the I guess 3x two size that we have to work with on Woodbridge Avenue and I think it's going to be a huge impact
like when you look at this kind of n you know it's faded it's been been there done that And this kind of really sings to me I I really like it Um and oh this was Retua's attempt at a Photoshop Again you can see we need a little more margins but I think it'll look really
cute And every other fourth will be a welcome in English just so you know So that it'll be kind of varied But fun fact was currently downtown most of them you don't know It says welcome on it And I think your mind just converts it you know it's it's uh uh so but we're And
then just so you get a sense for how many these are all the polls that we've got that we'll be dressing up So um we are going to have to we're identifying vendors and we are going to um uh what
are you going to do uh get the we need to get the exact design specs so that Gaya can adapt his kind of concept to the physical dimensions that are required by the manufacturer get some pricing but we're looking to do that in the next couple months Get those up Um
and that that's all I have on banners Yep So that's the banners The other updates are we are going to be putting out benches and receptacles and these are purchased and waiting to go out Um
uh one of the challenges that we some of the places need concrete our bane of our life is empty mouthless math sorry uh you think it'd be easy but it is um uh but these are we have these and they'll be going out and we're two just mapped out where they're going to go Um and
we're also buying replacement planters I don't have a picture of that These replace the stone this the stone receptacles These are going to Yes all those and some of them are blue painted corrugated I don't know what there's no rhyme or reason so we
have plenty of receptacles and they will be going up the avenue these will also be easier for the DPW folks to change out to just take the lid off dump it um and so it's going to look and Main Street helped us select these so we're trying to coordinate our we're not
trying to reproduce the Main Street but we're trying to be kind of same same level speak to it Um and we're also the pebbleier They're actually concrete planters We're going to swap those out with new fiberglass ones that we we uh
met with uh Marsha who's also on Shade Tree Um and we're excited to try a new material It's fiberglass but they're being used I forget what town I mean they've had them in place for 10 years and they're holding up really well And they actually have a watering reservoir
So we're actually going to use it as a little experiment to see if they require less watering as a result because I know that's an ongoing issue So um they're pretty cool I'm sorry I don't have a picture Um and if they work it and they do they do require special dirt but we
were going to have to buy more dirt anyway and it wasn't that much more to buy the special dirt right um and that way there's a reservoir and so they just have to fill a reservoir and then they know they're done And so the the the town we talked to said it's a noticeable difference between the amount of
watering you have to do and the ones with these And they've had them for 10 years because one of our concerns was does the wick stop working after you know two years and you're back to a regular old planter So we're just really excited to bring I mean there's there's it's been a long time coming some of
those improvements Um again it's just this was more of a show and tell Matt I don't know if you have anything else Matt No it's just it's it's been fun with the NPP committee and with Main Street and Gaza and all of those putting this this stuff together It sort of feels like there's a nice flow going from you know Raritan up to to
Woodbridge and that's that's pretty cool It's never happened before So pretty exciting Quick question Are are we taking any design feedback or How about you do that offside yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah I know No it's time We haven't
like he literally turned that around we had a meeting and he turned that around in 24 hours I was like "Oh my god that's And uh so so I think we have a workable but certainly there's room for you know tweaks and we we need to figure out what
the you know I think it needs a little more margin so it pops a little more and stuff like that Um but I think whatever we do is going to pop because what's there is pretty pretty dated." Um so are the planters going to be smaller than the ones that we have right now those are really big They took up a lot of
space No they're going to be similar but they're square They're not going to be round And they're going to be for now we're just replacing what's there because we didn't want to overwhelm the tree plant the water the planting program and the watering program So we
thought let's try by swapping these out first Um and we may move them around because they they kind of shifted over time So they may move to different blocks But um on Woodbridge I guess I'm not aware of any major conflicts uh where we have planters and we want it to
have the impact and if you make them too small it'll have So um but we may as a second phase downtown we have like the big ones and the smaller ones So we may alternate you know that's something we talked about But for now we're just doing like for like And then with the
understanding that now that they don't weigh 10,000 pounds I mean they're not nothing when they're full of dirt But compared to the concrete ones they're much lighter which is partially why they were so much less expensive because shipping was a fraction of the shipping of a concrete planter Um so they're very
attractive and I think um but but yeah we'll have to figure out exact placements And the long run it's going to be a budget issue because we won't have MP forever We want to make sure whatever we put out we can keep looking nice because the the work that Main
Street does uh you know right now we're we're reimbursing them for the Woodbridge app portions So we'll have to make sure that we have a plan for maintaining those all of the planters in the long um but right now it's we're just
swapping out Do we um do we manage the um banners right now or is that the county the there are banners They're the county's polls and I've reached out to them to well they're actually PSCG's poll It's the county's
roadway Uh so make it more complicated And we did check with the county what the height requirements are which is one of the reasons we can't go with a longer banner because then we're getting too close to I think it's 15 feet off the
curb or something like that And these are much shorter polls than the the main street poles So if the county is aware and PSNG doesn't care because they already have the back So as long as we're using the same brackets they they don't care Just swap them Um do you want to The only other thing
to mention I think that's interesting up at Woodbridge right now is that the MPP this year also has facade grants for houses in the district right so there's a a grant program for people who want to fix up the outside of their house and and they're not massive grants so it's
not like replacing the front of your house but if you have you know like a overhanging porch and it's falling down or something like that porch steps you know you know that can be 5,000 bucks right there Um and it's it's
basically we can give you know 100% grants out to to h houses in the district in the district So it's a it's a nice opportunity to sort of not just focus right on Woodbridge Avenue but sort of off Woodbridge Avenue to serve out that it's another improvement Yeah
And and they're we're continuing the facade program as well It's exciting to expand it to residences Do they have to live on Woodbridge it's not on Woodbridge It's so so MP goes um Oh So it's a little off It goes a little
back a block back It doesn't it doesn't go like all the way down to the park It's not that big a district It's it's literally like just um surrounding Woodbridge Avenue So it's a a little bit off So those are the ones in the
district It was primarily focused on commercial districts but recognizing that we have housing in the mix in that area it made sense to do a housing program as well I mean a facade program for houses Is that a similar application process as
the resale store uh it similar but it's not a matching like in the the facade grants are tend to be a matching program where they put up some and then then we put up some These are just grants So it's a little bit different and we're not doing things
like we're not asking for um uh uh financial you know we're not asking for tax returns or anything like that And um uh so it's not sort of means tested or that we thought that might be a little wondrous on people Um just one little thing that
I've noticed in that neighborhood is that some spots like the curbs and sidewalks and the aprons and driveways are not in best shape I wonder if there's um some of that green that would be eligible That might be a good thing to
encourage all these sidewalks Yeah we might want to just try to sell that because we're spiffing it up in a lot of different ways but then there's like you know certain parts that just kind of look a little Good point here Another that's it Sounds good
Okay that's the end of our discussion Public comment Now it's time for public comment 21 minutes total Three minutes per speaker Comments from members of the public attending the meeting in person will be heard first followed by members
of the public attending the meeting via Zoom Siri do we have I see one person on Zoom I do not have a hand up Um seeing no one further may I have a
motion to close public participation second A roll call Council member Y Yes Council member Hersh yes Council President Kulan yes Council member yes Council member Burges yes And now um
executive session May I have a motion to adopt or reject 4-225-115 Executive Session Redeveloper Negotiations 308 Raritton Avenue Motion to adopt Second Roll call Council member
Hail yes Council member H Yes Council President Kenhan yes Council member Stone yes Council member Vargas yes Okay And now adjournment I thought you were about to get up May I have a motion to adjourn
and go into executive session so move Second All in favor i Note that we will not be returning to open session this evening And that's a lie
Great Thank you