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Mayor, would you like to proceed? Yes, please. >> Good evening. This is the meeting of the Royal Highlands Mayor and Council regular meeting on Wednesday, June 3rd, 2026. The notice requirements prov provided for in the open public meetings act have been satisfied. Notice of this meeting was properly given by

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transmission to the Aspbury Park Press and the Two River Times and by posting at the Burough Highlands municipal building and website and filing with the burough clerk all on January 1st, 2026. Items listed on the agenda are subject to change. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the stands. One nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> I will now do roll call. Council member

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Santes >> here. Council >> here. >> Council member Melnik. Council President Schesky >> here. >> Mayor Bulan >> here. First, we have approval of minutes 20 May 2020 2026 meeting minutes. All

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>> over. I'll second. >> Council member Svantes. >> Yes. >> Council Chalac. >> Yes. >> Council President Schevsky. >> Yes. >> Mayor Brulan. >> Yes. >> Motion carries to approve May 6, 2026 meeting minutes. Next we have public hearing on proposed ordinance 02612

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amending ordinance 02608 designating restricted parking in front of residents occupied by a person with disabilities. >> Does anyone have any questions on this before I open it to the public? >> Did you just say 02608? >> Yes.

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>> It says 02613 on the agenda. >> 12 and 13.8. Oh, it's amending. Oh, wait. >> I see it. I'm sorry. >> And just like the following one is 2607 amending. >> And as I described at the last meeting,

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this is because from time to time people move in and out of town and we designate spaces and then we take them away and then if somebody moves in that is disabled, then we put it back. So, it's it's all a formality, but we need to do it to keep our paperwork uh in line. With that said, is there anything uh

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that anyone from the public wants to ask or make a comment on regarding um this ordinance? >> Seeing none, I will offer this ordinance. >> Council member Santes, >> yes. >> Council member Chilat, >> yes. >> Council President Chesn, >> yes.

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>> Mayor Bulan, >> yes. >> Motion carries. O2612 passed on second and final reading. Next we have 02613 designating restricted parking in front of a residence occupied by a person with disabilities for a previously removed

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parking space identified in ordinance 0267. Um it's pretty much the exact same spiel for this ordinance as well. So are there any questions regarding this? Is there any question from the public regarding this ordinance?

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Okay, seeing none, I will offer this ordinance. >> I will second. >> Council member Svantes, yes. >> Council member Chalak, >> yes. >> Council President, >> yes. >> Mayor Bulan, >> yes. >> Motion carries. 02613 pass on second and final reading. Next we have introduction

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of proposed ordinance 02614 amending chapter 2 administration section 2-32 Department of Public Works section 2-32.6 Six, appointment of superintendent of the burough code toad. >> Um, this ordinance is in place as there

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are um the way we are structured, you are either in um the CWA or you're in the commercial food workers union or you're outside collective bargaining or you are with um

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the PBA. Um so uh our DPW superintendent has been here for a certain amount of time which he is now in the uh commercial food food food workers union so he is entitled to tenure and so what we have to do is we

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have to make a ordinance um saying that he is entitled to this tenure and uh again it's it's paperwork but it's just something that we need to align with to keep up with our codes and to uh be in line with our um how we manage our union

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contracts. >> I just have a question. >> If he's a head of department of public works, but he's in food preparers union, >> it's Yeah, it's it's very odd. the there's certain the people in the

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building department um code enforcement um super of um public works before he hit this milestone of possible tenure he was outside collective bargaining but now that it's coming up he is inside collective bargaining

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>> again I don't make the rules we just apply it no abide by them but uh so we just have to formally do this >> established all right >> are there any other questions No. >> Okay. >> All right. Then I'll offer it. >> Okay. >> I'll second.

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>> Council member Santes. >> Yes. >> Council member Chil? >> Yes. >> Council President? >> Yes. >> Mayor Bulan? >> Yes. >> Motion carries to pass 02614 on first reading with a public hearing to be held on June 17, 2026. Next we have O2615

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designating restricted parking in front of a residence occupied by a person with disabilities. And I'm not going to change my story on this and the next ordinance. It is pretty much uh the same things. People come, people go. We have to designate them properly so that the uh the parking

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spot is for that designated individual um only and not just anybody that has a placard can park in that spot. Okay. >> Um and with that, can I have an offer? >> I'll offer. >> Council member Santes, >> yes. >> Council member Tillac, >> yes.

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>> Council President, yes. Mayor Bulant. >> Yes. >> Motion carries to pass O2615 with on first reading with a public hearing to be held June 17, 2026. Next, we have O2616 adding chapter 7- C.6

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C of the burough code designating restricted parking for persons with disabilities. >> As we used to say in college Ibid, but yes, the same does apply for this one as well. Um, and without further ado, I will offer it.

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>> Uh, second. >> Council member Svantes. >> Yes. >> Council member Chilac, >> yes. >> Council President, >> yes. >> Mayor Bumman, >> yes. >> Motion carries to pass 02616 on first reading with a public hearing to be held on June 17, 2026. Next, we

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have resolutions R26128 approving renewal of liquor licenses for the 2026 2027 term. Um, does anyone have any questions regarding this? No. >> Everyone's paperwork is in order. Um,

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>> Nancy, so then yes, I will offer this. >> I'll second. >> Council member Svantes, >> Council Member Dac, >> yes. >> Council President Schesky, >> yes. >> Mayor Bulan, >> yes. >> Motion carries to adopt resolution R26128. Next, we have consent agenda. Mayor,

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would you like me to read the resolutions by title? >> Yes, please. R 26129 approving closeout change order number one and declaring acceptance of contract for the South Peak drainage improvements project. R26130 awarding a contract to Hutchkins

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HVAC, Inc. for HVAC maintenance for the 2026 calendar year. R 26131 appointing deputies municipal clerk. R26132 authorizing the mayor and municipal clerk to execute the FY2027

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FY2029 cooperative agreement with Mammoth County for cooperative participation in the community development program pursuant to the uniform shared services and consolidation act. R 26133

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authorizing tree removal refund. R 26134 authorizing payment of bills. R26135 authorizing the cancellation of old tax overp payments. >> Can I have a motion, please? >> A motion.

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>> Second. >> I'll second. >> Council member Svantes, >> yes. >> Council member, >> yes. >> Council President Oesy, >> yes. >> Mayor Bu, >> yes. >> Motion carries to adopt resolutions R26129 through R26135.

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Next we have other business municipal alliance presentation. >> You're up Heather. There's a microphone right there. I'll just make sure that it's on. And for those unaware, this is Heather Delazi. She runs the municipal alliance here for Highlands and Atlantic

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Highlands. There's a little hear it. I'm glad you have a nice boy. >> Turn it around. be too loud. Step back. Thank you. So, hi everyone. I'm Dr. Heather Delazi,

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municipal alliance coordinator. I've been the alliance coordinator now for 17 years, I believe it is. It's been a long time. And before that, I was a volunteer for the alliance as well. Um, the alliance was formed and started by Karen Vanaten and Tim Hill in a way to bring

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drug and alcohol prevention awareness to the town. and we are Highlands and Atlantic Highlands. So that we do share our services with them with the different schools, both towns as well. Um so I just kind of wanted to give everybody an update really to see you

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know what we are doing right now especially a lot of transitions that are happening in throughout everything upcoming projects that we have. Friday night is team night and really excited to have this this Friday night. Um, our grant, which we are grant funded, is

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undergoing a little bit of transition. We actually are getting more money, more grant money for our town. So, yay. Go. >> Very good. Very good. >> Yeah. Right. I'm so excited by that, too, because it means we can bring back more programming and more things that we can do. We love to partner with different organizations. We'd love to

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partner with different people, different, uh, parts of the townships such as, like I said before, the school systems, both police departments, um, historical society, wreck departments, anybody and everybody that will partner with us as well, different

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businesses, people in town, even people who come to our meetings and say, "Hey, I have an idea. Let's do this." Um, for example, we've partnered with Ruckers to bring in it was um a production of um like a play almost, but it was kind of like an improv that we

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did over the summer programs with the recreation students as well. Then we brought it to the teens and it was a lot of fun where they get a problem and they can problem solve. So, stuff like that as well. We do a lot of education, parent programming. Our next parent program is actually going to be on June

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10th at 7 p.m. It is uh your kids and social media, a survival guide for parents and that's going to be held at the community center in Highlands as well. Our alliance meetings, we do rotate them. They are open to everybody. We would love for more people to come. We would love for more people to get

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involved. Our next alliance meeting is the 18th of June at 3:00 and that is held here in the conference center. And we're also having a Narcan training as well, free for all residents in both towns. And that will be June 22nd at 700

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p.m. here as well. I'm sorry, no, community center. That's at the community center as well. We are open to, like I said, partnering with anybody bringing drug and alcohol prevention programs and awareness and education because that is really our focus. So, thank you for the continued support and

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if anybody has any ideas or wants to get in touch with me, please reach out at any time. Any questions about the alliance? >> I know the guy with the food truck that could support and do. >> I would love that. Yeah. I remember the same guy came to Oil PH and did a dinner for us with the parents.

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>> My daughter still talks about Mhm. >> Right. It was such a good day. >> Absolutely. Any other questions? >> Any questions? >> No. >> No. All right. Thank you. >> Doing the great work. We appreciate it.

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Next we have public hearing on license 1317-33-008-00006 placeto place transfer application >> please. >> Yeah, please just uh kick us off. >> I'm sorry. >> Uh no.

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Um give me Um, in the meantime, I'll just note um, briefly, I know this is a a liquor license uh, transfer application hearing. We don't have hearings on these types of applications very often, so I'll just briefly go through kind of a general procedure. Uh, it's not anything

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terribly formal, but what I will do is anyone who's going to be testifying, I'll just swear you in for the record. Um, I know Chief Burton's here with some items that he would like to address for the governing body. Uh we have a representative of sea streak as well who's certainly entitled to talk and

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then anyone from the public who has comments on this application will be able to comment. >> You know what we can't hear you at all. Are any of your two microphones on? >> Uh this one should be >> okay. So, in case anyone didn't hear me, um we're going to be hearing from First

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Chief Burton to address uh some of the potential concerns with this application. Then any representatives of Sea Streak will be entitled to also speak about the application. And finally, if any members of the public have any comments about this liquor license transfer application, uh they'll

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have that opportunity. But first things first, anyone who's going to be testifying, I'll swear you in. So, Chief, if you don't mind, if you could raise your right hand, do you swear from the testimony you're about to give in this matter, the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth? >> I do. >> Thank you. Please proceed. >> Okay. Good evening, everyone. Uh, what I'm going to do now is I'm going to

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pass. I don't know if you want to mark this now. >> Okay. This is what I'm going to uh mark right now is the state of New Jersey Department of Law and Public Safety Division of Alcoholic Beverage Control Retail License Application for a copy for everybody to take a look at. And

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>> we'll just call that H1 for the record. Very good. >> Oh, I have two. >> That's okay. >> Keep going, Nancy. Nancy. >> Okay. So, what you're looking at, this is a standard application that anyone who has a liquor license normally files with the municipality. Uh, on occasion,

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there's a 12-page. This is a full application. Right now, you only have about three or four pages in front of you. The full application is 12 pages. So, the initial application is the full application. From time to time, they have to amend those applications for a variety of reasons, and sometimes they have to submit what's called a short

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form application, which is just a few pages. Okay. So this one you can see is dated uh September 10th of 2025. This is the latest application submitted by Sea Streak um in reference to their license which it's numbered above. If you look

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at the second page you'll see 326 Shore Drive question 2.2 and 2.1 Sea Streak LLC 2.2. It lists the address and so on. And then the last page you'll see is a sketch

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that was submitted by Sea Streak. The reason why we're here tonight is Sea Streak has submitted an application to the burrow to include it's called a place to place application. That's on the front page. It's checked off on the right hand side. That place to place application is going to expand their

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license to what they currently have in place today. The expansion of that license is only what we're only talking about tonight is to include an outside bar on the beach. Okay? If you look at the sketch, that's

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the last page. All of that area, if you're familiar with if you're familiar with Sea Streak, that's the beach. Okay? So, there's the picnic tables and uh it's called the sandbox at Sea Streak, which is uh written on the bottom. And there's the stage and so on and so forth. that entire area has

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previously been licensed. So just because you have the area is licensed doesn't mean you can sell, serve, or store alcohol on that license. Prior to this application right here, since 2001, Sea Streak has submitted an application

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to the municipality. And if you look on page three in question 3.1, how many separate buildings are going to be included under this license? This application says two. Up until September of 2025,

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every single application that Sea Streak submitted said one building. Okay. 3.2 two building numbers. It was always one of one up until this very latest application that's in front of you right

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now. Now, for the past 3 years, the burough attorney, myself, Seek and their representatives and their attorneys have been meeting in reference to this application. If you're aware, or you should be, Seek

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has been operating the sandbox at Sea Streak for quite some time now. within that license area is a bar that they serve alcohol out of. That is not permitted. Okay. We've been working with Sea Streak

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uh to remedy that. Okay. Submit new applications. There was some clerical errors on some applications. The clerk could attest to uh ABC said this needs to be cleaned up or that needs to be cleaned up or we need to change the wording on this and stuff like that. That's gone back and forth for three

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years. Three years the burrow has been waiting for Sea Streak to get its act together and here we are now. This was filed in September. Okay. They still have not done it. They are operating that business. And if you look on the

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back page with the sketch that's submitted, you'll see if you can read it, it says snack bar. Bar. That's the actual bar that's located on the property. There's a DAQ shack which was a durary shack

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which alcoholic beverages were being sold and served out of that shack that is not permitted. There's a uh this one says a hot dog stand. There are some other issues too and Steve Winters who's our construction official isn't here tonight to testify

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but there are some construction and some building code issues that were addressed as well during this whole process. Okay. Seek was brought into compliance from what I understand, but there was a lot of things that were put in place that there was no permission for. Um, and I'm sure we're going to hear

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from Seek at some point. Um, and we do know from our meetings that Sea Streak believed at some point that they may have had permission for this. My answer to that is Sea Streak is a, you says that their revenue was $30 million.

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This isn't a mom and pop operation. They have a team of attorneys for a variety of things, not just this. That being said, I don't think that they would operate a business based on a handshake, based on a handshake with

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someone potentially in the municipality who told them they can go ahead and do this. I would think that their attorneys would vet it, they would need insurance, so on and so forth. So, what I'm here tonight to tell you is that you have a decision to make. This

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rests with the governing body. The governing body makes the decision whether or not you're going to allow that business or that building to operate. It doesn't take away the fact that Sea Streak itself, the beach is still licensed for alcohol. The barge at

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Sea Streak, if you can picture the barge at the end, that has always been licensed. That has always been part of their sketch. I think in 2012 is when they expanded and they included the beach. That's the application that was submitted in 2012. But before that, the

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barge was licensed. The barge is still licensed today and so is the beach. The nuts are not licensed to serve alcohol out on that beach from that location. What's that? Those are the police calls for sea street for the last 3 years.

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Everything ranging from motor vehicle crashes, cars getting locked, crashes inside, first aid calls, fights, noise complaints, everything. This is the call. There's 490 total cars calls for service for the for the police department. And they're not all they're

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not all bad. We can weed through these. There's not some of them are first aid calls. Some of them are like I said, somebody locked your keys in their car. But we've had to go there 490 times. Okay. The big thing we're talking about here is traffic, public safety. Today,

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one of my officers came to me today. said he thinks today was the most cars he's ever seen on shore drive. There was 95 cars on Shore Drive today. Most likely all of those were from Sea Streak. There was a handful that weren't

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and those were outside the parameters. The secondary parking lot was completely full. Not I'm sorry, it wasn't. Two lines were all the way down in Dorsets. For the last two days, teacher's parking lot's been completely filled. They have a sandwich board outside says lot is filled. They have an attendant who telling people if you're dropping

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someone off, you can go in there, but there's no parking in here. So, with that being said, it's at its max. Shore Drive is at its max with traffic. Okay? If you go down there at dismissal, I'll call it departure or arrival rather,

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you'll see the chaos. It is absolutely chaotic. Okay, we're talking about another 3 to 400 people on the beach. Do they arrive at the same time? Probably not. But there is a possibility

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that at 5:00 people want to go to the beach and see the band that's playing or go get something else. Even if you had 50 people, where are we fitting 50 more cars? How are we going to manage 50 more cars going in and out of there when

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today it's filled? Where are they going to go? They're going to go down side streets. They're going to turn around because they can't get in there. Right now, we have people turning around in driveways. We have people turning around in condo associations, things like that. That

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puts our residents at a greater danger, right, for something potentially happening with just the volume of cars coming in and out. Um, since 2020, the ridership has continually grown. So, we're only seeing

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more and more traffic, more and more volume. That's uh directly from Sea Streak. Those are numbers that they gave us since CO the numbers are increasing every single year. What we've seen from them is we've seen the number of seats on their boats increase. The boats are

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getting bigger. So, that's more traffic. Now, with this potential bar that's going to open, we're looking at more traffic. Can we handle that? I don't think we can. I don't think we can. As it stands right now, is there something potentially in place that

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might address that? Maybe. Okay. But right now, as we stand here today, we can't. Anybody have any questions before I move on? Good. Any questions for me, Jack? I think that's it for right now. >> I have a question. Yeah, sure. The World

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Cup's coming. >> There's going to be a lot of people coming. Have you thought about that? More traffic for their basket and stuff like that? >> Yes. >> People will be >> Yes. Uh I think it was just announced maybe today or the last few days that Redbank's having a watch party. So, it's Long Branch. Um so, we were brought into

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the loop by the county prosecutor's office. Um I'm one of the liaison. It happens to be for the chief's association to what's called the rapid deployment force for the county. Uh we just went to Delaney Hall the other day. Went to Long Branch last week. Um so we're being brought in the loop for the

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potential of that. Yes. Will we see a greater ridership? Potentially. Yeah, 100%. Um I don't think Sea Streak is holding a watch party. I It's not sanctioned at least by FIFA, right? Um if they're going to have it on the beach, I don't know. We have no control over that. We have no control right now

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over the number of seats that are on that beach. We have no control over the the um advertising for concerts and so on and so forth. We have zero control over that. Do we have a noise ordinance? Yes. Noise ordinance is somewhat vague and there's only so much we can do in

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the parameters of the hours. Um but that's what we do. Um and it's been so long that and I I've spoken to the mayor sort of the attorney about this. This is something that we as the police department constantly deal with.

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And I want to be able as the chief to tell people that mayor council made a decision on this whether it's for or against. I didn't make this decision. They saw all the options. They heard both sides. They made an informed decision based on a variety of factors.

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I just want sea street to do the right thing. Right. and they're not doing the right thing by any means and enough is enough. I don't think we're going to make a decision here tonight because there may be another side to this and you may push this a little bit. Go ahead, >> Chief. What What do you consider to be

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the right thing? >> I'll defer to the attorney on that. >> Well, you can give your opinion. >> Yeah, my opinion. Go ahead. Sorry. >> Just one thing before I guess you give your full opinion. I know you mentioned there's something in place that might address this situation and I know there

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was a land use application just recently submitted by Sea Streak. It's currently pending before the board. Um I don't know the extent to which you've had a chance to review that but in your opinion if you have, would that address some of these concerns? Is that something that we, you know, can or

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should take into account um in figuring out whether they're able to address the traffic, the safety, the issues that you've raised? I don't think we cannot take it into account. Right. Probably about 3 weeks ago, we had a meeting with Sea Streak um and with their engineers and they submitted a set of plans that

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they were working on. They weren't finalized at that point and they were submitted yesterday to the land use board. One of the biggest things on those plans and you can you can get them from the construction office, they are adjusting the parking in that space, right? We

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haven't seen any documentation from them in reference to the secondary lot that they have the old Dorson ed property that wasn't provided. Okay. One of the other things that they're going to need is a design waiver in those plans because the parking stalls that they

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have the the standard is 9 ft wide by 18 ft long. They're proposing 8 1/2 ft wide by 18 ft long. So just think about that. Think about how tight a parking space is now. When you go to the supermarket, they want to shrink that by 6 in inches.

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Now, you arrive driving in there. You're not going to park in that spot, right? You're not going to squeeze your SUV or even your midsize SUV into that spot. So, what's going to happen is those cars are going to go over the lines. There's no way that they're going to be able to people are going to turn around. It's going to be even more chaotic. I think I

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think Sea Street themselves, I think, needs to really take a look at that to see is it is that realistic? Is that going to work? If you take that away, by my rough guesstimation yesterday, there's less less 50 spots, 50 parking spots from what they submitted

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yesterday. A detailed plan, as the attorney said, a detailed plan, a better detailed plan of their parking potentially of their ingress and egress, which is outlined in that plan. all uh with the secondary parking lot when

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that's completely striped when it's maintained and we can get a really good calculation of how many parking spaces are in there. Yeah, I think we're talking about maybe something different, but we're not there yet. We're tonight we're here, right? That's that's pending. So, that that application

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that's before the land use board, is it complete? I don't think it's complete and I don't know the answer to that. Um that's just me on the outside looking at what I looked at. uh that's that's for the professionals on the layers board, the attorney and the planner to decide and the engineer to decide if that's a

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complete um application. So to your point, yes, there is something pending, but their application and it's it it's you cannot look not look at it rather their application they're seeking approval

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from the zoning board to operate the business. that they've been operating for years. They're now seeking approval. So that's what's that's what's happening now. So it's all yes, we have to

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separate the two. They're two distinct and two different things. But is it does it come into play? 100% it is. If you were to approve this license today, tomorrow technically they can't operate the business because they're not they don't have the zoning approval for that.

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Sorry. Does anybody else have any other questions? >> Totally off base. Is there ever any consideration for lifeguards? >> I don't know that that's something you have to talk definitely talk to Caesar about. It's private property >> and that would be something that could come up at the land use process. Um, and

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that date was set for uh >> June 25th. One thing I also want to touch on is that you as a governing body, you have the ability to put restrictions on any license that we have here in the burough. So let's say for instance there's a business and I'm not

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going to say uh sandbox right to the other end of town and you're constantly having complaints about band. The band is playing until 11:00 at night and your neighbors are they're fed up and it's and it's they had enough. For instance, you can put a a a stipulation on that

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license that on the weekends they can't have bands or they can't have bands past 9:00 or they have to install surveillance cameras. You may have a business that's continually having fights or having problems. You can mandate that they have a working camera

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system in their business. Um you can mandate that they hire uh security and that they pay that security. There's a lot of different parameters that you can do. Um, for instance, you could say you can't have concerts with less with more

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than 300 people. Can't have concerts until 11:00 at night. Uh, you can't do it on Fridays. You can only do it on Saturdays. So on and so forth. There's a lot of there's a lot of leeway and I would leave that to the attorney to guide you on some of those things should you, you know, want to do something like

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that. That's with any license. Any questions for me? Welcome to the public. >> Yes. We'll turn to sea street first um for any comments and then to the public. >> So if you two could please raise your right hand. Do you swear from the

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testimony you're about to give this matter to truth? The whole truth, nothing but the truth. >> Uh yes, I do. >> And just please state your name for the record. >> Uh Jack Evans, C Street. >> Thank you. >> Uh that was a lot, Chief. So try to try to follow it up here. Um in short, I guess, uh I'll start off with the with

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the liquor license. Um, and as the the chief had mentioned, uh, we do have attorneys that work for us, uh, in-house and outside counsel. Uh, we transferred that license to the beach property back, I believe in 2011 or somewhere early in pre, it was pre Sandy, uh, possibly 20

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early 2012. Um, and when we transferred that license, um, we were told with that license that we were able to serve and sell alcohol on that premise and which we did. We had opened up a tiki bar that year called the playa um which one of the council members here was also a partner in that business. Um

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unfortunately due to Sandy uh we lost the infrastructure that was there and uh we failed to reopen it uh up until co. So um I know there were changes various changes or many changes uh with the licenses over the years. majority of what we did there was based on the recommendation that we were given by the

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town um or representatives um you know citing something that was wrong with the license and to reapply whether it was a transfer to transfer um I know there was something that come up the last one that was mentioned here with the buildings going from one building to two building um that's not something that we dragged

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our feet on um that was something that was brought to our attention and said you need to address this and revise the license to have two buildings and not one um and that's why this like this application was submitted that way, excuse me, submitted that way.

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So to to that extent um as far as the license, we do not feel that we're operating under the license illegally. Um so I guess that will be addressed within the within the burrow here. Um from the liquor license, uh moving on to parking and

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uh what the chief had mentioned there is that we are 100% full on parking. Uh today was a very busy day uh in this postcoavid environment. Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursdays are the new work week. Uh that's when everybody appears to to go into the city to work and we now have our seasonal riders um that are

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on board with us that have seasonal homes in the Jersey Shore and commute with us going into the city which is an uptick of roughly 100 I would say roughly 100 riders per day split between Atlantic Highlands and the and the Highland services. Um but I will say that the shore drive is full. Our

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highlands on west was full today and also Doris and Edz was probably at about 70% capacity. That's on the outbound. When you move into the afternoon schedule um starting at a 1:15 departure coming out of the city, those folks start coming back. And

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when they start coming back, cars start to leave the property. Um so whether it's a 1:15 arrival, 2:00 arrival, 3:00 arrival, we now have cars that are exiting the property, exiting Shore Drive, and also exiting doors. So, when we look at coming into the sandbox with

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people being able to access the property in the evenings, they do. Um, we do have parking spaces available in the afternoon and I know um we're in the process of providing another an updated traffic study um which was a request to the town. Um so, we'll provide we we'll provide that data to the town so they

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can also see what the ins and the outs of the parking lot are um on the busier days during the week. Mondays and Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays are not an issue. >> Will that be ready for the 25th? >> Yes, it will. >> Excellent. Thank you. Yes. >> What am I missing? Um >> I have a question.

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That's good. That's good. >> So the your initial uh liquor license application said for one one license and that was for the uh >> it's the same it's the it was the same license. So the original license uh was obviously carried over from Connors from

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the from the pool club or beach cabata club. >> Um Seek acquired the property. I was not there then. And that was back in 1998 or 1999. Um the license sat dormant uh for a few years after the purchase. Um they brought in the ferry terminal or the barge that's there now and then brought

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that license out of dormcancy and applied it to to the floating barge. >> So So it covers the barge that that current >> the the first initial license covered covered the barge. >> So you said around was it after Sandy that >> it was it was prey. It was uh I believe

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2011. Okay. um as when we opened up the uh the tiki bar. >> You did mention that you had gotten the or taste had permission from the then town council to open up these two other bars uh the snack bar and the the the

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shack something shack that circled it. Do you have any paperwork any more details about who and what and >> I mean there's been some correspondence that's been provided to the to the bow. I know there were some documents missing I think post uh post Sandy as well. Um

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there also just to to go back to that original um application or original um start of that tiki bar back in 2000 I don't know if it's 2011 or 2012 um there 2012 um there was zoning approval because I have uh legal correspondence

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um from uh residents there uh essentially protesting the approval of the zoning Anybody any questions? >> Just on that note, you you mentioned this protesting the zoning approval, but

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there's no contention that you've only had the one building license on the liquor license applications since that time, right? >> That's correct. Okay. Thank you. So, in terms of the parking issue that's going to be discussed um 25th of June.

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>> All right. Well, I mean I was out. >> So, so a couple of things with the uh with the current application for the for the parking plan. Um the spots that are in the lot are at 8 and 1/2 ft. Some are actually a little bit narrower. Um, and within that we're trying to designate uh compact car sections, compact car areas,

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and then also uh valet areas where we can pack more cars into specific locations on the property. >> I was at the Doris properties a couple of days ago and I saw that the U surveyors were out cuz I saw the pins everywhere. Are you anticipating that you will have a markout for that lot for

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the meeting on the 25th? >> Yes, I actually just received an email today that the uh they're going to be out next week. >> Excellent. Thank you. >> Do you plan on having uh something to present to the bro before the meeting? >> Very good. You know, I'm sure everybody that lives in town has experienced this,

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but uh Shore Drive in Lynon um can be crazy when Sea Street lets out or in the morning when the people are coming in >> and the kids are going to school >> and the kids are going to school and I've seen people run the the stop sign and I know, you know,

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>> should there be a a light there, Chief? Do you think if you put a light in, would that help? I I mean I would defer to the to the chief on whether a stoplight should be uh installed at the at the location. Um we do uh we do hire the police for the uh for the evening uh

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arrivals with the fairies to direct traffic. Um I think one of the uh bigger aspects of the uh the plan that we submitted was to have a separate in andout of the of the facility and then also a uh pedestrian sidewalk so the pedestrians don't have to mix with the vehicles going in and out of the

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property. And I believe with the uh having a separate entrance and exit, I think that that will definitely help the uh the traffic situation um specifically in the evenings when everybody's coming back home. >> Yeah, I don't think you bus any

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>> I'm from county and the buses took people down to the service. Do you do that? >> No, we bus we bus between locations. Um unfortunately we do not have enough parking at either location for the service to run out of one terminal. Um so therefore we have shuttles that

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connect the terminals. >> What else? >> Okay. Just want to touch on a few things uh that Jack brought up. First of all, I should have prefaced with this earlier. at every meeting we've had with Sea Streak. Um I personally think that Sea Streak is a great partner up until this.

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Seek is I think is wonderful for our town. Um Jack and I are personal friends um and have been for a long time. I think that Sea Streak is um again very good for our town and we definitely should work with them, right? But at

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some point you have to you got to hold your feet to the fire, right? So to what he talked about two things that he spoke about was that the application the application itself I'm going to show you something in a second what you have behind you in front of you the last page

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is a sketch the application itself is submitted and then the sketch is the last part that's supposed to be submitted the application itself the words on the pages that's what's what's called holds the day the sketch doesn't necessarily matter in the eyes of the

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ABC that question number three, one of one buildings. So whether or not their sketch included it, didn't include it in the past, doesn't matter. What holds the day is question number three. So to uh Mr. Gins's point, 521 of 2012,

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this is the full application that was submitted by sea street. I'm not going to give you the whole application at this point because we're going to mark it um because it has some personal information in there. But what I will show you is the last two pages and that'll be part of the record here.

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You'll have to look at this individually. This is a sketch. What Mr. Beavens talked about was the the bar the formal applia that was there being on the sketch. As you can see on this that was submitted 2012. It's not on here.

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There's a little dot on two sketches. That little dot says tiki bar. This dot, which is in the same location, says portable bar. If you ever been to a bar and they have a portable bar, it's no wider than this

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table. Right. >> Right. It's filled with ice and there's a bunch of beers in there and that's what they sell. That's a portable bar. It's usually on wheels. Right. It's on a structure. It's not what they had down there. The original structure that they had down there didn't have sides. It had

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posts with a roof. The sides were then added later on. Again, whether or not there was building permits, I don't know. All right, that's not that's not for me to say here tonight. But I will show you this. And you can clearly see in this sketch that the building that

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they have now that the the foundation of that building was there in 2012. It is not on this sketch. It's not on the second one either. the clear outline that was submitted by sea streak. You want to mark this? Sorry.

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>> This This is a copy, right? >> Yeah, they're all copies. Yeah, I think the clerk has the originals. >> So, this we'll call H2. >> The second part that Mr. the ball brought to your attention was and I don't have it in front of me either. We had a meeting with Sea Streak and their

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attorney Sali and he read from his documents that when they put in the zoning application to have the beach area be a bar area, stuff like that. There was litigation filed by

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an adjacent property owner which is a condo association in our meeting which again there was we don't have this but he read it to us and I'm testifying under oath that it said that they were going to withdraw their lawsuit because

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Seek said that they were going to withdraw their application and not have what they submitted. It may have been due to Sandy and they weren't going to do it because they didn't think that they could and they ended up withdrawing that. But that was part of that. It was part of the lawsuit. Sea Street said

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they were not going to have the beach in operation. I think that's all I have. Anybody have any questions about those sketches? >> No. I wanted to return them. Give them to Mr. Oh, you want to see him? >> Did you want to see them? I'm sorry.

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Yeah. Any questions from the public about that? >> Okay, does anyone in the public want to comment on this transfer application? >> Yes. >> And I'll swear your as well if you can raise your right hand. Do you swear from

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the testimony you're about to give in this matter, the truth, the whole truth, nothing but the truth? >> I do. >> And please state your name, spell your last name. >> Yeah, it's Richard Jones, J O N E S for Mountain Street. Um, I guess my question is

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this seems like such an important topic and I try to keep an eye on meeting agendas, but there's no link to the application. Seek's name wasn't on the agenda. So, I'm just wondering if more people would

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have been interested in hearing this testimony and participating if if they had more information. So, I guess my question is, is there a decision going to happen tonight or is there going to

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be further opportunity for the public to weigh in on this? >> Either one's possible. It's up to the governing body. Should there be a link to the liquor

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transfer application? >> So, there is usually sensitive data in those. Normally, they would not be shared. I mean, maybe in a redacted state, but that's again something that's not required um to hold one of these hearings.

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>> Uh the link that's on uh the website, if I'm not mistaken, goes uh right to the letter from the from the clerk uh doing the public notice as well as uh

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a letter from um the sky law firm to our attorneys naming sea street. Um >> is this on the meeting packet with the PDFs?

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So I'm looking at now I don't see any hyperlink on this part of the agenda. >> Okay. >> Um >> regardless to answer your question I don't think there's going to be an answer on this this evening >> because this was a lot to unpack in a

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half an hour. >> Oh well I appreciate >> and some of us are seeing this for the very first time. I not me. I've seen this for quite some time, but other people are seeing it for the the first time. Um, and Mr. Melnik will have to uh listen or watch the DVD and get updated

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uh for the next meeting which is on our council meeting. Next meeting is the um 17th >> 17th >> of this month. So that would be before the land use opportunity. The land use meeting is going to be on

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the 25th and it's going to be held at 7 p.m. at Henry Hudson High School. >> Okay. I appreciate the testimony from the chief. It was very informative. Um but again, it just seems like such an important topic that if

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if the council could possibly extend this, you know, to further discussion from the public, I think it would be appreciated. Thank you. >> Sure. Does anyone else have a comment they would like to make at this time? >> Would you like to go on record to just

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state that? I think that'd be helpful. >> And I'll I'll swear you in as well. If you don't mind raising the right right hand after you juggle your items, do you swear from the testimony you're about to give in this matter? The whole truth is nothing but the truth. >> Yes. >> And please state your name. Spell your last name.

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>> Michelle with one L. Pizulo. P is impeacher. E Z Ul L O. Thank you. I just wholeheartedly agree. There was no information, no detailed information.

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So, um, that's it. So, I'm on Thank you very much. I appreciate it. >> I was going to say if no one else has a comment, we'll just bring it back up to the the stand there. Again Jones uh for the record but I do

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appreciate Sea Street as a business in town. it, you know, it's kind of a victim of its own success maybe. And, you know, it's a great asset, but um I guess we do have to try to figure

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out some way to >> um make harmony in the town with with Sea Streak and and their operations. >> Thank you, sir. Does everyone agree that we need a little bit more time with this? And

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okay, so we're going to bring this back to the um the June uh 17th meeting. >> We will um >> discuss it. >> Uh yes, we will have Mr. Melnik uh get him a copy of the recording so that he

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could um watch the whole thing and then um be able to ask professionals or the chief or Mr. Beavens for any other uh questions that he might have and uh then we will uh readress in two weeks.

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So, something I just want to note as far as procedure goes, um, you know, you're not just bound to either approve or deny, as the chief did allude to, uh, the governing body does have the ability to impose conditions on the license. Um, so if you believe that the certain conditions would address the particular,

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you know, traffic and safety concerns that were raised, uh, you can keep in mind that those can be imposed as part of the license. And if they're not complied with, then it would be a violation at that point. Um it's the chief did also mention properly that

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zoning is a separate process from the liquor licensing approval. So you know you cannot necessarily um just refuse because there's no zoning approval. Likewise you can't refuse a zoning application because there's no liquor license approval. There's two separate processes. But I think there's

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at least some recognition that it seems the zoning application may address the traffic concerns that we're dealing with here. Uh so maybe for the next hearing something to consider um whether the imposition of a condition that either obtaining that zoning approval or

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addressing the traffic and safety concerns in some other manner that's consistent with that application or a substantially similar application just might be something the governing body wants to uh consider. But um hearing that there we're not obviously going to

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impose or kind of draft those conditions tonight. That's something that would be uh dealt with at this June 17th meeting. >> Thank you. Any other questions regarding this? >> Not right now. >> Okay. Okay.

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Um Yes, next is me. Okay. Um the my report for the um month of May uh so burough updates uh for emergency services uh incidents recorded uh first

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aid squad had 39, fire 29 and police uh 880. For code enforcement, we had 15 sums, nine warnings, 22 reports, 34 inspections, 21 permits, and nine oper requests.

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For the building department, 96 inspections, very busy. Um, with 59 passed, zero fail, three not ready. We have 44 construction permits and n uh sorry, 13 zoning permits. uh for regionalization with Sebrite.

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There are no legal issues. Uh the Bureau of Sebrite is going to work directly with um the HHRS board to see if they can be included. Um again, all of the legal issues that were out there have all been resolved. There's nothing stopping anyone.

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Um, the Association of the United States Navy is an association that uh helps uh towns connect with their military families to um help them foster a community where they might not know that

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there are other service members whether they are active duty or deployed or retired. uh to help foster a um a camaraderie and just someone to lean on that they're going through a similar situation. So at last month's meeting we

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um we did a a resolution to formally recognize our association with the AUSN and uh we are um they have a lofty goal of reaching out to every town in America which is a lofty goal. There are many towns in America, but Highlands is the

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first town that has formalized their recogn relationship uh with the AOSF. So, we're very excited about that. And we've been I've been working with um the retired lieutenant uh current commander in Washington DC. and we are working on

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doing a um a bunch of programs here um inclusive of the VFW and the American Legion, but um our own uh recreation supervisor Jacqueline Kaine has volunteered to head up our chapter of uh

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of the association. We'll concentrate on doing programs at the community center. So, it's outside of that bar mentality that a lot of people are not comfortable with. Um so we're very excited to um to tell folks about that. Um moving on to

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what's going on in Lanus as you know now um that uh Sea Streak's uh second hearing date is 6:25. That's going to be at Henry Hudson 7 p.m. Um at our last land use meeting um 149 Portland Road

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that was approved uh quite some time ago. So, we gave them a little they had some legal issues with an with their neighbors, so we gave them a 15-month extension. Uh, there was an application for a proposed

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uh subdivision at uh 212 London Avenue and that one was dismissed because it hadn't seen any action in uh quite some time. Um, our ordinance that we passed, uh, 2610 was deemed consistent with master

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plan and the solar powered project on 44 Miller was approved, but it had, uh, detailed restrictions on how he's going to proceed with that build. Um, nothing to report on the areas of

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redevelopment. We still have, um, there's a lot of, uh, economic and geotechnical traffic studies. are going to happen at Shadowon before any shovels get into any grounds anywhere. Uh Captain's Cove, I've had some interest

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expressed, uh but they have not made a deal yet with the um current um owner. and Bay Avenue. We are looking at um signing on two more properties, which is great.

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For um uh current project updates, we completed the drainage and repaired the retaining wall on South Peak. That work started on April 27th and was completed on May 14th. Uh Overlook Park, I don't know if you

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guys have been around there. I go up there almost every day. Um, the shrubs are in, solar panel tables are in, binoculars are installed, and you can literally see people walking the trail on Sandy Hook. That's how good these binoculars are. What's really cute about

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it is that there's a a binocular set for adults and then there's one for smaller children so they can enjoy the view as well. We're hoping to get that done before the end of this month. And then we go over to Frank Hall Park where we ran into some issues because

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that was the spot of the old water plant. So we had to make sure all of those um pipes were all tied off and nothing was connected which we have done. We uh did a lot of grading. We put in some uh good drainage. We had to move

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a sanitary sewer line. Uh all the papers and forms are on site and ready to uh get that botchi court uh port. So hopefully that will wrap up also before the end of this month because um oh going back to overlook for a second only because that's going to be the number

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one place that people are want to go to see the tall ships because it's just a straight line right onto the bay. And I was just told today um at the end of the day that the National Park Service is not going to be charging in any of the

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national parks which includes Sanji Hook which is going to go from Friday the 3 to you know through the weekend and I would suggest going to the store a week beforehand

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because you're not going to be able to move. It's going to be an absolute gridlock. Uh, I don't I don't even know how uh how Sea Streak is going to get their pleasure boats out because it's it's just going to be um it's going to be crazy. It's going to be it's going to be great. It's going to be a crazy

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weekend. Um you know, the Knicks are in the the finals, everything's happening this summer, so uh you can't say you're going to be bored. Um just looking back into other stuff, I don't have any new news on new grants. Uh, but I did on on top of everything

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else I just said, um, there's a link. You can always get these, um, these updates. I do them every month. You can get them right on the website. It's like the first thing at the top. There's welcome and updates. Um, we are running a number of, uh, surveys, which I'd love

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to get everybody's input on. So, please just click that link and go right there. Um the bonfire at the community center beach is going to be on the 13th. It's flag day and the army's birthday on the 14th.

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Uh summer concert series starts on June 18th and that runs uh into July. Then the 20th is the fluke tournament. 21st is Father's Day and the summer solstice. 27th is the Taste of Highlands. And I know it's not coming up for June, but

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mark your calendars because on July 7th, the mobile unit for the motor vehicle commission, it's going to be right here at Burough Hall um during our hours 8:30 to 4:30. So, if you've got some last minute things that you need to do at the Motor Vehicle Commission, make your

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appointment and you can do it right here. And that's all I have. Anyone else have anything they'd like to add? Okay. Then I want to thank everyone for coming out. Appreciate it. >> Are we going to have public portion?

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Sure. Uh well, yes, I guess we could. We don't have to do a second public portion, but we could do this public portion. If you could please read the meeting statement. Individuals wishing to address the council shall be recognized by the presiding officer and shall give their name, address, and the group of enemies they represent. Although the

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council encourages public participation and reserves the right through its presiding officer to terminate remarks to and or by any individual not in keeping with the conduct of a proper and efficient meeting. If any individual refuses to conduct themselves in a proper manner, they will be removed from the meeting. The council will not during

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the public portion of the meeting discuss matters involving employment, appointment, termination of employment, negotiations, terms and conditions of employment, evaluation of the performance of promotion or discipline of any specific or prospective or current employee. There's a threeminut

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time limit for your comments. >> Hi, Rosemary Ryan 117 Highland Avenue. Uh, first as the Highlands first day president, I am not looking forward to the 3rd of July weekend. So, um, I'm

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here tonight to talk and my neighbors, a lot of them couldn't make it on resolution 26129. Uh, I want to know that is the pipe that's on South Peak Street. I'm wondering, I know that the council president has seen it, but

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has anybody really toured this whole site? >> I have. You have? Have you been up and down from Twin Light Terrace down the slope? I haven't cuz the day that I went up there, it was kind of day dicey and rainy and I didn't want to be taking a head or down the hill. >> I will take you on a tour. Well, I can

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take it. First of all, there are Let's start with eight bug traps there that I have no idea who put them there. I have pictures of them. Eight bug traps. There are these green they look like um water gallon round buckets that are there for

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they say fly trap on them. They have never been there before. I have asked the 14 neighbors whose property had joined that if anybody has put them there. They have not. They were there after this has happened. Now I'm going to tell you after the construction >> after the construction. So many of you

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may not know this. I have lived in this town my whole life, which is more than any of you combined except for the chief. And I used to run up and down that street, the paper street that was behind my house to go to the Twin Lights. It starts at the Twin Lights and ends down

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at South Peak Street. It's on the old map from the town. It was a dirt road when I was little and that was many years ago. And nobody has maintained that in the last 40 years

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to mow it, do anything except for the residents that live adjacent to this paper street. There were trees put up when Dave Milmo was here. They put up these sticker thin trees that had these there were some rose thorns on them

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that are disgusting little trees. I don't even know the name of them. And you know, I'm an avid gardener. Um, here's the issue with this pipe. Let me go through my notes so I can get through my 3 minutes as much as possible. I do have maybe questions. You

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can ask me to come back. Nowhere in town is there a monstrosity like this. When the men were there to put it up, they were very nice. The construction company was great. This project started two years ago because the wall between my

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house and my neighbor Kathy Castanza who lives on two South Peak Street was collapsing. It was taking a wall down that is between Michelle Cazula's house and my house. That was a peak peanut stone wall that had been cemented. You can see a severe crack. My property, you

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can see exactly where it stops from the burrow property. though I maintained part of that burrow property and put plants on it over the years, but it's a sleep a steep slope and over the last six years, there's been deterioration, I'm sure, from storm water coming down

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that hill. So, this project first started with the pipes sticking out of the ground 8 ft 8 ft tall. And they looked at the guys and said, "What are you going to do here?" They were going to put the project 8 ft up in the air. And then they spoke to their construction foreman who got it

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cut down that it's now 3 ft up in the air. I have videos after the last rainstorm where the pipe broke off and there's water shooting out all over the place. I happened to go into my garage that morning of one of the weekend that it rained two weeks ago, last weekend.

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Two weeks ago, and drove up the hill to turn around to go to shop at 8:00 in the morning and there was water spurting all over the place. So, we now had a water feature and it was coming down the hill. It was not at the top of the hill. It was at the bottom part. Um, you could

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look up from the corner and you could see it. Uh, the project was supposed to take a month. It took approximately a week and a half. It seems as though they stopped and never completed it because the base of it is disgusting looking. They have gravel some places. They put the pipe

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above the ground. We were under the impression it was going to be a 2-in pipe. Whatever. It's not. It's a 10-in pipe. Okay. But it is above the ground on top of gray gravel all the way up and it goes to the connection of rocks that

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were built on Twinlight Terrace that project out and then it goes down a hill. My son-in-law is a civil engineer for LAR Builders. I videoed him one morning and said to him, "Look at this. What is this?" He deals in utilities and

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land management. He said to me, "This is called laziness. This could have been underneath the ground." Thanks, N. Is that my three-minute wedding? Can I please go on? I just Well, so he said that if anybody says there's a problem with the slump or the

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slope, that's not true because if you have a slump and you have a pipe on top of the land, you can have a slump and have the pipe a foot underneath the land, he said. So, he works in Bear Mountain up in Tuxedo Park where he deals with nothing but hills. Um, maybe that's why he could send me

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$100 back from the project cuz they left it a mess. The original project leaked with the storm. I want to know what's going to happen if it breaks again because they seem to secure it first, but they did it with rip wrap or I don't even know what and put a yellow bandage

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on it. But now you can see purple glue coming out of where they glued it back together where it leaked at that part. Um, what happens when it freezes? It's above ground. It's going to freeze if there's storm water stuck in there. And you know, at this temperature, you can

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have a 70° day in February and then have a 4° day. So, if you have water that's stuck in that drain, it's going to expand and break. If you look at how the finished product is after we called and complained, they

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came in and brought they took the rocks that they put on the side of my property and they put them underneath part of the pipe to hold it up. Why? Like, how is that stable? It's not cemented. They're just the rocks. I can tell you Peanut Stone falls. If you put

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any pressure on it, it falls. It falls down the hill. You have to put it back up. That is not safe. If there are any kids that are ever on that, that is not safe. That is not safe. That is not safe. They left tree stumps in the wall. Why? Why didn't they clean those up?

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There's one big I just went this weekend with my son and cleaned out a ton of the ivy and the um honeysuckle. I ripped it down. I put it down by the grate. They also broke the grate. The sewer grate. I have a picture of that. The sewer grate was not

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broken on the bottom. It's now broken. that was not replaced. That's This is your money. Our money that I'm talking about that the project should have looked better. Uh they Oh, and they placed a pipe over a honeysuckle bush. They cut part of the honeysuckle bush down, but then they

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left the root of the honeysuckle bush 2 feet up in the air and just place the pipe over it. I have pictures of all of that. The water from this the storm watered drain. When the water flows down, you can see the water coming down the hill, but never once since I have lived there.

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And I clean these drains before any storm. So, there's no flooding. I go out and do it with a rig all the time. It was up to the top. It has never been up to the top no matter how much rain we've had, even in a hurricane in the whole time that I've lived there. So, it's

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never bubbled out of the top. You know how it bubbles out of Bay Avenue? Has never done that ever. and it was up to the top. That is an issue. I'm more concerned with the mosquito the the bug that they have things.

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>> Um are they afraid that there's going to be water collecting there? Are we now going to have a mosquito? I'm now at 6 minutes. West Nile virus. I'm taking the shell's time. West Nile virus thing. Um I will be done in two seconds. Well, I'm going to defer every single

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one of your technical um notes to the engineer because I am not an engineer of any form. So, I'm not uh >> my main question is why is this is the only structure like this in Highlands? >> There's no reason why this all goes back to TNM.

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>> Okay. I'm just saying why they kept having they created this issue >> by putting when they did Twin Lights Terrace they put in a storm great but never connected any pipes. >> So it would make a waterfall that

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compromised both of the right the neighbors homes to their foundations and one neighbor actually had to replace her entire deck because it compromised her deck as well. Um, so why a storm drain, I mean, sorry, why a catch basin

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was put in that attaches to nothing was ever done is beyond me. Um, but that is that's was the prefetus for this entire thing. And I understand the need to have the storm water drain. I have no issue with it being there. I just don't

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understand why it wouldn't be underground and why it would look like this. So there's a few components to why it was not put underground. Uh basically as stated by everyone understands that basically we had a retaining wall that failed.

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>> Uh if you go back and look at Google Earth, you can see that there are trees that have fallen could have been undermined by the basically the outfall. The outfall that you guys have along your bulkheads is what you had up at Twin White Stairs. It was a 10-in pipe that daylighted out over Gavons and then

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depending on the storm, snow melt, what have you, went whichever way it went. Uh so you had uncontrolled runoff uh of a large drainage area. So when that retaining wall failed, uh it became an opportunity uh to basically tie in that

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drainage area through the outflow and connect it into a drainage system that is south that is downstream. That is the end you're referring to at South Peak, which is outside the failed peanut wall by the transformer. So from a budget standpoint and from an access

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standpoint, we couldn't just continue to let this retaining wall be exposed to the elements. It basically we were looking at a possible landslide if there was no retaining wall with the amount of water that we had in that previous storm that you're referencing. So, while we were coming out of winter, which was

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really harsh, before we got into the wet season of spring, we wanted to have something designed, which was uh for the retaining wall and get a pipe underneath that retaining wall cuz once that retaining wall is up, there's no fixing that drainage situation above it. Now,

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going back to why the pipe wasn't put underground, there's encroachments and access issues to put that underground. It's something that hasn't been put as a possible future project. be you have concerns about the inlet at South Peak overflowing. We have a DOT project that

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hopefully is awarded that we'll be designing and constructing this fall. So, that's all going to be looked at in terms of the future improvements. >> So, can we talk to you about the encroachment issue? I know that there's a neighbor that's saying that you guys were down his driveway. That's not his driveway. That's part of the paper

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street. If you look at the survey, that is not his driveway. He claims it is. So the actual his driveway connected to the paper street, but that paper street is not his actual property and he doesn't pay taxes on it >> for

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>> that's just for your historical purposes. >> I understand. I would in 4Runner it's clear. I understand. My my thing is based on the need to get the retaining wall up and get drainage installed. uh the decision was approved to go this route and it obviously has a butterfly

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effect of can we do better should we have done better or let the retainable wall continue to be a situation so I don't see this as I see as an initial step and when we look at the south peak project that's supposed to go all the way up to the high school along Grand

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Tour I believe that this will be looked at again and we'll have full topographic survey of the burrow own rightway and certain decisions will have to be made as it relates to to get the pipe possibly underground like that that will

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have to be assessed. So, you do understand, I'm sure you do, you're an engineer, that if that pipe breaks, how it sloped right now where it was going before goes right into my yard. So, I who live how many feet above sea level, I'm going to have a flooding issue. And

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we're also concerned, my neighbors were very concerned with the ones that live across the street and the one that live I I can block it. I can put a fence up from my back of my yard and block it. But >> it's not new water. That's >> I know it's not new. I'm I'm saying I'm

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saying cosmetically, which might not which might not be your issue, but cosmetically to the rest of the burrow when you're paying your taxes or trying to sell your home, it's an issue. There is no other drainage

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causeway or I don't know what the proper word is that looks like that in this town and I understand it was a matter of minutes but if you look at there there should not be peanut stone holding up the bottom of that pipe. >> No, we're working with contracts here

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along that I understand runs downhill and so does storm water but it shouldn't look like this. Twin Lake Terrace doesn't look like this. Even the people on that I know where the problems were. I I know exactly where the problems were. It still cosmetically

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looks disgusting. And for an area that really tries to keep their property up, it's not good. That's one thing. And we're all concerned. There are how many joints to this that could break? As we saw immediately, it broke. So, I would

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like somebody to go up there again. I would like the council to take a look at it and see would you like that in your backyard or your front yard and oh it's it's I know people are saying it's your backyard and I've spoken with your a

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couple of your other neighbors property >> it's their yard but it's not their yard they're encroaching >> property that was not taken care of for 40 years >> so one of the issues when we looked at even burring it in under the current contract which was very limited compared to other contracts in town is that there

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are existing encroach ments, not the driveway encroachments. There's existing retaining walls that would not allow us to bury it at this current time. So, larger design efforts will be required to possibly terminate part of a retaining wall so that we could bury the pipe. Right now, physically, it's

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impossible to do it because of people encroaching on borrow property. So, that's why further design is required, but based on the budget that was available to do the project, that was what was decided. So, there's going to be other issues that come about probably

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over the next few months to improve it, but there's going to have to be I I can't just bust a retaining wall, you know, that like you can't some of those retaining walls might even be on the borrowed property. So, that's part of the issue. So, >> we've looked at buring and physically

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contractors like I can't I'd have to tear it down and we have to tie it back in. We got to do geog grid all that. So that has to be looked at and we are starting to look at that. >> Will anything else be done with the project or it's just going to lay as it is until you start the other projects in

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two years? >> Will somebody look at the peanut stone underneath the pipe and see how >> project has to be awarded by Halloween for DOT? It's a fiscal year 2025 local a project. >> Okay. I'm not giving this to anybody else or I

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took everybody's time up. Uh Richard Jones for Mountain Street. Um I'm not familiar with that situation, so I'm not going to comment on that. But I did have a question about uh I was looking at the bulletin board and there's a notice that there's going to

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be a public hearing for the grant for Kusian Field and I was just wondering is there some place on the bureau website that shows the current plan so

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people can comment on what the plan is or or I didn't want to interrupt you. I didn't know if you were finished with your thought. >> Well, I'm just wondering is there like information that people can look at prior to the hearing so they can get

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familiar with it and add comments if they want. >> Um right now we're trying to look at this as a phased approach. Um we're working with the um high school as they are interested in making improvements as we are interested in making improvements. It's a burrow one

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property. Um it has not seen a lot of love in quite some time. Um what we're looking to do is to um replace the bleachers, uh replace the retaining walls, uh paint the dugouts,

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uh fix some of the older um the back stop. Uh the school has requested a top so when there's a pot fall, it doesn't go flying back into Mammoth Hills and its houses back there.

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um drainage. There's all sorts of things that are that are the wish list, but it's what is what could we do right now to bring this field again closer to the goalpost, but at the same time, we're looking to go after this open space grant where we can do a

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lot more with it. So, the first order of business is to get it where it's usable because it's barely usable as it is. Um, and then the second phase of it is to really make it something great. >> Well, I appreciate that. I mean, those

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are all great goals, but I'm just wondering, is there like an outline of what the plan is? I mean, other than your verbal disc description, because you're inviting people to comment on the grant project,

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but if they don't have any information prior to the meeting, how do they know what to comment on? >> Joe, are you going to have something from landscape that you'll be able to show people at the meeting? >> Yes, the public presentation is part of the requirement. Uh, and then I believe

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comments are collected uh as part of the presentation. Unfortunately, the the grant cycle, there's three grants right now. Uh they're very tight in timelines. They authorize the grant like May 1st and they're viewed like July 1st. So, right now for that one, we're working on

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a concept plan and the concept estimate and there'll be a presentation presenting the proposed opportunity. But as far as any design, any plans there, there isn't anything now. It's an opportunity for possible funding. We would It's an open space grant, I believe, is this is this one. So there's

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a match up that we would request possibly up to $500,000. It would match that amount. So depending on what we get, if you get $200,000, you would have a $400,000 project and that's what would come out. So it's really a

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scope uh location and a discussion of proposed improvements and then basically a public forum for anything that people want to discuss about the location of the site. We just had a conversation with the school about this literally last week

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and then we were going to go after the open space grant for something else and I said this needs more attention. Let's go this route because it's a field that gets used that kids frogger across the highway to go to this field. it's very

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very dangerous and then it's just in a total state of disrepair and we want to get it to where it's at least usable and then hopefully if we get this grant because we could do a lot of things as a community project ahead of getting the grant but then the grant could really

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make it someplace lovely. >> Uh I mean that all sounds good. I I just didn't know what the scope of this particular grant was because I know there's been discussions or I'm not sure what the plans are for drainage and like

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holding them. >> We don't know if this brick project is ever going to happen, Rob. We really don't. >> Right. Okay. No, thank you. >> Okay. >> Come on. Sorry. And this is a logistics question

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because you guys um hi Michelle Pazulo. I just have a quick question because you said July 3rd and um now I'm really afraid because I bought tickets to uh at 8:30 with the um Navinc Mariner and you

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go out from 8:30 to 11:30 on the Navast Queen. and how am I getting home if it's in Atlantic Islands and we get back at 11:30 and we know what it's like during lunchtime. So, does anybody have an idea

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of how I'm going to do that or do I just sell my tickets which I really don't want to do? So, that's it. Um I I don't know. I can't predict the future. >> You know, go to the store. We can have answers down. I'm just saying to be

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prepared because I don't think it's going to be as bad as >> there are millions of people coming to this area. Look at these 35 years, right? I know you can't remember. >> I All I can attend it to is if you were

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here for Operation Sale in 1976, it's going to be that but bigger. >> Don't give up your tickets. >> Don't give up your tickets. Try and get there. Go take a walk on the trail. Well, I I'm I'm with someone who cannot do that. >> Okay. >> So, that I would definitely do that. I

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wouldn't even take the car. I would just walk back and forth. But, all right. >> Well, the traffic is going to be going to out to Sandy Hook. >> Yeah. I'll go home. >> I by the time you go home, that should be done.

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>> The what? >> There you go. >> I I have in my mind how to go. Anyway, all right. Well, thank you. >> You got it. >> May I say something? >> Sure. You're on. There you go. >> Okay.

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>> Um, just going back to Rosemary's I live off the street from from this green thing. Um, and I would say if possible until something potentially can be done, can some fencing, can something be put up so that isn't screaming at you as

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you're coming up the street? Number one. And uh I know I I met your neighbor Kathy. >> She's got a backyard that's a postage stamp and yes, it isn't her property, but it's an inch away from her property >> is this pile of gray gravel and then

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this big pipe. >> And the only information they had gotten talked about the flow through a 2-in pipe or the flow through to a four or 6 in pipe. I don't think they had an expectation of an 8 inch pipe 10 what

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whatever it is monster pipe. So if it is conceivable to just put up something to block it >> so that um at least from the street but also from from Cathy's backyard because her backyard's a postage stand.

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>> She really has the worst of it. I mean it's funny my my son and daughter-in-law are estate gardeners. So, I sent them a picture and I said, "Tell me what can be planted here that could disguise this." And they juniper and and uh boxwood, but

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they said boxwood's pretty expensive, but the juniper I I know I have them can just kind of spread out and put its arms out over it maybe. But the best of all would be get it in the ground or at least get it halfway in the ground so it's not screaming at you. It it it's um

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>> No, unless you want a big snake hunt for some big creature. Um that's funny because I love to walk through the woods and see how the trees kind of leave things that look like creatures. But that one I I don't think I could come up with anything.

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>> But it's a lovely old part of town and it it could look better. It could it could serve the purpose and and hopefully look better. But that's it. Okay, it's heard. >> Anyone else?

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I will close the public portion. >> Are we ready for executive session? >> Yes, we are. I'll make that a motion. Executive session. Executive session would be held following a regular council meeting. Prior to each executive session, the burough council will convene an opening session at which time a resolution will be adopted in

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accordance with NJSA 10 col4-13. No formal action will be taken during executive session. Resolution to enter executive session. Be it resolved that the following portion of this meeting shall not be open to public. Be it further resolved that private consideration is deemed required and is

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permitted because of the following exceptions set forth in the act. Real property litigation. Be it further resolved that is anticipated that matters to be considered in private may be disclosed to the public at a later date when the need for privacy no longer exists.

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>> I'll make that motion. >> I'll second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Thank you. Executive session at 8:30. Please exit. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> And then a motion for adjournment.

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>> Motion to adjurnn. >> Second. Second. All in favor? >> I. >> Thank you. Meeting adjourned at 7 um 8 to 42.