i guess credit hello yeah no I'm about to go into a four o'clock emergency meeting under the burrow um can I call you back is it Is it critical
all right i'll be done at 4:30 i'll call you okay bye-bye took my face off oh but I don't know what are you saying one minute you're not a bad adventure though my
name is here though hello Mayor hello play with the backgrounds waiting for the rest of the council members to join you can tell I'm bored i'm playing with the background a little bit
does somebody have a flag for the pledge there it is breaking the office there thanks Bobby there's Ray all right hi everybody
hi Ray who a lot of people here yeah okay um the cast members i see Justin there i see Melissa bob Kenni is here so for and there's Michael Allah at the Pasc Press
um I don't see who else are we waiting on that do you have the list of everybody who's could be here okay michael can you hear me i hear you there you are i apologize for the uh subscription at the bottom that didn't
change denise I think has to change okay whatever it doesn't matter it brings back bad memories of Zoom meetings during COVID yeah okay understandable okay here we go that's from somebody here
yeah and Justin is muted justin here yeah here he says he's on justin I'm looking for you to unmute you so stand by please
dustin Fox there you go all right don't you hear me we hear you okay janetta is unmute yeah come on in um just as a matter of operations here the OP consent resolution after the motion in the
second um if we are we going to vote on that before we do public comment or are we going to motion it then allow public comment then go to close on a vote we have to do the um the resolution first the 25103 has to be done before public
comment okay okay okay definitely let me uh Denise let me just confirm that I I have 81 participants in this in this uh Zoom is that just me on That's correct yes we're going to go into a breakout room when we go into closed okay so who who are the other
participants hillsville residents or the Hillsville residents who got alerted to this and are are are here to hear what we have to say gotcha okay okay we are all here if you want to start Okay and we are recording
are we recording yes we are recording okay that is paused is it paused okay uh welcome everybody was we've got a large crowd here today uh we're going to be conducting most of our business or
all the business other than a public statement um in closed session but you do have a chance to to comment and I'll just start with uh let's start with first uh calling the meeting to order with the pledge of allegiance if everyone would please
rise and face the flag all right and repeat after me i pledge algiance to the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice
for all thank you uh this is an emergency meeting of the Hillsdale Burough Council on this 18th day of March 2025 notice of the time and place meeting has provided the Ridgewood D the Bergen Record the Pascat Crest and Community Life copies are posted on the bulletin board outside of
our public meeting room as well as the burough website and provided to interested parties please everyone silence your cell phones which I am going to do now because I did not remember please wait to be recognized by the mayor during the public hearing and the public comment part of the meeting you will need to state your name and
town of residence for the record will the clerk please read the role mayor Shinfield here council President Oso here council member Kleti here council member Fox here council member Mazich she's muted melissa you're muted there
we go you're here council member Rico here council member Choku here great okay we've got an offconsent and non-consent resolution 25103 i'm going to read it resolution authorizing an emergency meeting without sufficient notice under the open public meetings
act pursuant to NJSA 10-4-9 for the purpose of undertaking a closed session meeting to discuss the settlement of a disciplinary matter with police chief Sean Smith prior to a disciplinary hearing scheduled for March
20th 2025 can I get a motion motion second second clerk please read the role here who was first janetta janetta okay council member Kleti yes council member Fox yes council member Mazich yes
council President Oso yes council member Rico yes council member Chimuk yes great okay before we go into close session I just want to uh ask uh the counselor to please explain why even though you know we've just passed this but what exactly
it is that we're able to bypass the uh the the normal requirements uh for sufficient notice okay well thank you mayor very quickly um you are entitled to have regular meetings special
meetings and emergency meetings all meetings require at least 48 hours notice that 48 hours notice has to be the mailing or transmittal to the newspapers the posting on the bulletin
board and in fact current case law suggests it should be greater than 48 hours notice to give people a realistic opportunity to get a full 48 hours notice unfortunately my understanding is
that 9 or 10 in the morning on the 20th we will start a disciplinary hearing uh with regard to uh Sean Smith there has arisen today a proposed resolution of
that that resolution would have to be implemented at the hearing on the morning of the 20th in other words no matter what we did there would not be 48 hours between now and the morning of the
20th it just does not exist in the calendar okay so what the council has considered and I take it from their vote that they've reviewed the resolution that the statute allows for circumstances such as this which is that
upon the affirmative vote of 3/4 of those present the public body may hold an emergency meeting not withstanding the ability to provide adequate notice if if the meeting is required to deal
with matters of urgency and importance that a delay for the purpose of providing notice would likely result in substantial harm to the public interest that the meeting is required to deal with matters of urgency and importance
that a delay in providing notice would result in substantial harm that notice of the meeting is provided as soon as possible when you know the meeting is going to take place and I I can advise everyone that Denise has scured around
all afternoon and got those notices out already yep um and I appreciate those great efforts on her part and that the we could not have reasonably foreseen that a meeting would be
required so to go through those very briefly in reverse order I don't know that anyone foresaw that an a discussion or an offer would wind up on Mike's desk today um that was I think quite frankly
unforeseen and everybody I believe felt pretty strongly that there would be a hearing on Thursday and it would move forward in its current context number two uh I believe that the matter is
urgent enough that there would be harm to the public agency in the event a hearing was take takes place you never know how that hearing will will work itself out you never know what will be
enforced one way or another and I believe that provides a significant risk or some risk to the interests or the of the burough and public interests um moreover I regard the matter certainly as urgent and important perhaps some of
the most urgent and important matters that have been before the governing body and uh finally um the the date for the hearing appears to be fixed in other words the likelihood of
an easy adjournment of that in order to provide another 12 hours notice here uh yeah it's not our hearing it's it's not ours to do and it seems unlikely but moreover the intention here is to go
into a meeting and then go into a closed session which frankly would not be open to the public anyway okay uh of course this decision is in the discretion of the council i attempted to lay out the law as best we could in this
resolution that we did just an hour ago or so um but that is the purpose here and um that is what we're moving forward under okay great um we're going to move to public comments here limited to three
three minutes on any topic please state your name and town of residence for the record you'd have to basically link in and and say that you want to uh ask a question you have to raise your hand does anybody from the public wish to be heard at this time denise do you see anybody i do not any
hands raised no okay um that being the case um I would like to make have a motion to provide uh to adjourn to close session to provide for a public meeting uh for to provide for a meeting not open to the public in accordance with the provision of the New York New Jersey
open public meetings act uh and it's regarding police personnel can I get a motion motion second second okay will the clerk please read the role council member Fox yes council member Mazachan yes council President
Oso yes council member Rugo yes council member Chime yes council member Kleti yes okay it's unanimous we're going to go into a closed session for those of you in the public I can't tell you how long it's going to be but when it's done
we will be coming out uh and uh we will be coming out uh of closed to the public again so the governing body mayor also reserves the right to take such action as they see fit when we do emerge from closed
sure certainly okay um Denise could you take us into closed as we are now in closed yes mike is working on it right now okay not working yeah I think if you collapse that I'm going to try to find you