I would like to advise all those President that notice of this meeting has been provided to the public in accordance with the provisions of the open public meeting act that notice was published city website copies provided peran record el special the northstar ledger jurgy journal also placed on a
bulletin board in the lobby of city hall any objections if any shall be made to the city clerk to the flag of the United States of America to theublic for it stands one nation under Godisible
for allies. >> Mr. Con >> present. >> Miss Fischer. >> Yes. Here. >> Mrs. Imus >> say here. >> Here. >> Mrs. Shabore. >> Here. >> President
>> present. >> Gero. >> Present. Mr. Ramos >> Mr. Russo >> present. >> President Doyle >> present. >> So we'll start with a little housekeeping for those who
are here for particular matters. Where where is it? >> Uh >> no I I got it. I got it. Thank you. So yeah, B8 the second ordinance hearing for second reading B827 is being
carried. Um and it's accompanying resolution which is CD1 is also being carried this evening. Uh [snorts] if you're here for either of those for your information. Um, A2
has [snorts] been removed and >> what is A? >> That's that's it for changes to what's on the agenda. >> Uh, I think I'd like to take this a
moment to welcome uh, Councilwoman Imus here tonight for her first meeting. [applause] It's nice to have the full contingent back and uh welcome aboard. Okay, so um we have a hearing on an
ordinance amending the north end redevelopment plan for the north end re rehabilitation area. >> Thank you. Um [sighs] for those who are signing up, it's helpful when you indicate what you would
like to speak on. Um so [snorts] this is the uh 8 26 is the first one and I have 1 2 3 4 five six people who did not indicate what they want to speak on. So I'm going to call your name out and if
you are not interested in this 826 just let me know and we'll maybe you can even yell out what it is you're interested in speaking on. Uh Kira >> Brennan. I think I'm Rockefeller. >> This is Rockefeller. Yes. 826 is
Rockefeller as well. So, thank you. You have five minutes. >> Okay. Hello. My name is Kira Berman and I am a current student at Miles Square Theater, currently studying voice and improv. I'm here to speak on behalf of the board of trustees of Miles Square Theater. Board President Anne Tushel,
who previously attended last month's first reading, could [snorts] not be here in person due to the theat's annual Broadway night fundraising event. Miles Square Theater, located at 1400 Clinton Street, has been a presence in Northwest Hoboken for nearly 10 years. We have been delighted to work alongside
great neighbors like the Gravity Vault, Carpadium, Bu, and Hudson Table. In the past few years, we welcomed a far a farmers market and the very popular pickle ball courts to our neighborhood. Northwest Hulken is thriving. We are excited for our neighborhood to to meet its full potential and have a more
welcoming, inviting gateway to our city. Tonight, on behalf of the Miles Theater Board of Trustees, I'm here to urge you to vote yes on the Rockefeller development agreement. This partnership will bring new residents and additional commerce to our neighborhood. We are eager to welcome the additional foot
traffic and commercial venues to Uptown Hoboken. We look forward to partnering with Rockefeller to provide residents with opportunities to experience live theater, music, gallery shows, and more. Thank you to those voting yes tonight on the second reading. >> Thank you very much.
Uh Tony Sorz, >> so um I'm here to speak on on this orance tonight. I'm very much in favor of it. I listened to the workshop. I gave my input. I gave input at the uh online workshop um a couple of weeks ago and uh what I really appreciate at this
the buildings look different. They just don't look like a bunch of red boxes on our waterfront. And my input was and it'll be again tonight. Can we please make sure when we design buildings in Hoboken we maintain parapits so that our buildings landmark tops of buildings are
not air conditioning units that they've been those those parapits have been being removed routinely at the planning and construction stages during um I don't I know the architect here doesn't want to do that but I don't want to see it get lost in the uh in in the
translation of completion. Also, let's make sure that and I I know there's been some questions about the parking asset that's going to be given back to the city. I think that's it's a great thing. I think, you know, in a perfect world, you'd get a whole building, but it just doesn't financially work that well this
way. So, let's make sure there's a definitely a clear delineation between the public asset and the private asset when you do the details that who maintains what and where so that you're not conflicting with the condo association or the ownership of the
residential. Um, I've many conversations with the developers representatives. I think they're probably the one of the best in the world that could to do this project. I think it's high time that the entries to Hoboken are not filled with empty wax
factories and soap factories and are like our entrances are the ugliest part of our city and I think it's time we we get them developed. Um that's all I have to say. Thank you. >> Thank you, Councilman. Uh George Khan,
are you speaking on this same topic? >> I am. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. Uh yeah, I'm a resident of Hobok and I've lived here for 22 years. Uh raised two children here, spent a lot of time
at that soccer field up there. And I'm just really excited about the potential for the north side of town, what's been created there already, and what can be done in the future. And I think this project specifically is going to go a long way to advance that. love the idea
of bringing in all this new retail, really activating uh 15th Street with the plaza and making it uh sort of a vibrant retail corridor, obviously more public space uh with the linear park. Um so I I just think it's it's a great
opportunity to kind of extend what we already have up to 14th Street, what we've seen on on the west side of town a little bit. Uh I also love the architecture of the buildings. I think they're beautiful and and will serve as a great gateway into the city. So, I'm thrilled about it. I love that I live in
that neighborhood and we'll have uh hopefully all this new retail to walk to, better street connectivity. Um and just really excited about the prospect. And the municipal garage um obviously having affordable public parking options uptown is desperately needed um for
family and friends who visit us, for people to support the retail. So, I think that's also a great aspect of this development. So, I'm definitely in favor of it and I hope to see it move forward. >> Thank you, Mr. Khan.
Uh, is it Dan or Don Dempsey? Don. Um, so I've been a Hoboken resident for the last 12 years and I really wasn't planning to come here tonight until I tried to park my car on the street last night and looked for over an hour and couldn't find anything. So I'm very much
in favor of this development. I live uptown for the last six years and public parking, street parking has been an issue for the last actually my entire time there. So very much in favor of this development just for that aspect alone. the the new development for retail. I'm looking forward to hopefully
having what we used to have on Washington, which is mom and pop shops and different things other than just the Gap and Nike. I think it's a great opportunity for, you know, small businesses and new things like that to come up. So, thanks. [snorts] >> Thank you, Mr. Dempsey.
Uh, Patricia Waiters, did you sign up for this? Okay. Um, Zabrina Stoofl, have you Is this the one you signed up for, Zabrina? >> Yes, sir.
>> Okay. >> Hi, I'm Sabrina Stoofl. Um, I speak a lot on land use issues. It's um just one of the things that I uh find really interesting in bringing a city together
and community together. And am I doing that? >> Why is that happening? so bad. >> It's not you. >> Not you. >> You're good, Sabrina. >> Okay. >> Y >> um I'm really I I've been talking about this project for so many more years than
it's even been an approved project. Um, everybody here knows that I was one of the people that brought Mile Square Theater to the North End. And you know, just following people like Carpey DM and the Beer Garden to create a real neighborhood up there. And as people
started moving in and you got more foot traffic, it really started to feel like something. And I'm excited for the next neighborhood of Hoboken to um bring not just the benefits of that community, but the benefits of the bigger development
opportunity like having the light rail being able to be a stop up there in the future. And the parking of course um being the first step I think is one of the keys to making everybody feel like this is a
success. um right away. So, I definitely urge a yes vote on this. Thanks for your time. [snorts] >> Thank you. >> Uh Manuel Rivera. >> Thank you, Council President. Uh members of the council, members of the public, I
appreciate the opportunity. Council President, um although again I also am in favor. I have um been to some of these meetings and of course the parking is important uh a paramount issue and um as well as any affordability, but uh I would like to ask this council or you
sir if you could ask if you could please um for members of the public that are not completely uh aware, what are the changes that are being proposed in this Ordinance B826.
Um the specific reason that is being um amended. Uh if we could have those that information from Missouri public as well as the reasoning for it, who who was in charge of making or suggesting any uh
amendments to the ordinance as it was as it stand currently or pardon me, as it stands currently. There's a little feedback noise over there. So, uh, Council President, uh, these are the questions. Um, regardless if we appreciate the development or not, uh,
members of the public are interested in knowing, uh, which are the, uh, amendments, which are the changes, if any, and why are they being implemented at this point in time. Uh, council president and >> that uh, with that uh, if you want to answer the question, I would appreciate
it. If not, then I guess I'll yield back as you're not. Thank you. Thank you. >> Uh there are no other members of the public who signed up to speak. >> Closed public portion. >> All those in favor?
>> I. >> Uh council members, Councilman Fischer, you look poised. >> I'm ready. Uh so just to respond to um Manny's questions, um this amendment
tonight for the North End redevelopment plan is specifically to accommodate the Rockefeller sites. There are three different properties. Um the full city block between 15th and 16th, Clinton and
Willow and Clinton. uh the full city block between 15th and 16th between Park and Willow and the half city block um just south or between Park and Willow [snorts] just south of 15 um there. So um this is a in and in general what the
amendments are is to um wrap around the proposed development they have for all of those sites. So, we have an existing plan in place um that we approved I don't even know 2022 maybe around there and initially around 2022 took us
forever. I've been on the council since 2016 and it took us all six years that I was on the council and I think my colleagues worked on it for years before that. Um but we put something in place that really contemplated building a neighborhood to Sabrina's point um up in the north corner. What we didn't want to
do was build out like Jersey City has where you have these full giant full city blocks um buildings. Um we wanted to make sure each one of these big sites was going to be broken in half with two separate buildings and space in between them. So it was a walkable area and it
just created an kind of replicated some of our neighborhoods in the in the rest of Hoboken. Contemplating um that the buildings would be taller, you know, in the corner and edges. Um I think we felt very good about that and in general most of the um most of the projects that have
come before us have been conforming to that plan with a little bit of uh height creep which is happening here as well. This the these buildings are definitely slightly higher than um what our existing plan calls for. That being said um I think I'm pretty excited about this
plan. Uh it is it really is I I think they did a great job when they originally came in and presented um kind of this change to the plan that um is twofold. One is um on the site that is just south of the soccer field.
Originally it was going to be two buildings with space in the middle. They're just going to make one building, but they're going to put space on the edge, actually more space than they would have had in between them. But um that will be a giant plaza directly south of 1600 Park soccer field. And that's great. We have family. We have
everyone that you know it it'll kind of bring this um great bridge to the soccer field. It'll be this bridge to Harborside Park. It is going to be the first thing that you see when you come over both the park and um Willow Bridges. You're going to see what they're referring to as um Gateway Plaza. And it's just going to be very
inviting for um for our city. they have a landscaped area in front and hopefully over time we'll have like public art etc in that area. Um the other thing they did is instead of having just this straight linear park it kind of bends and the buildings have an interesting architectural feature. They have like a
curve to them. Um I will tell you I personally was not excited about either one of these because I was kind of like I liked our plan that we approved. Um, Jen Gatino was on the the North End Development Committee at the time and she just loved it and when she loved it, we all loved it and we all just kind of
um fell into place behind it. Um, importantly, something that I pushed for and and my colleagues supported was um requiring that they build a municipal parking garage. It was something always contemplated in the north end. We didn't have a lot of uh space left to accomplish that. We've not had a
municipal parking garage in the north end. everything that people said tonight. You know, I'm Phil's fifth word, I'm second word. We've heard about lack of parking garage um in Hoboken for a long time. So, or North End, so that's um a positive as well. And then lastly,
um you know, when we originally contemplated this project or they contemplated it, they wanted it to open onto Park Avenue. And uh makes sense, right? You want to have your front entrance directly across from a park. But what we realized with
all of the traffic disruptions over the last year is we can't have a residential entrance beyond our main highway. And so we worked really hard with Rockefeller to get them to reorient the building so it faced Willow Avenue. And really what that does is it really activates the Willow Avenue kind of commercial
corridor and it just really, you know, um strengthens the entire uh northwest corner. So we're excited about that. So I'm I'm supportive. The couple things I would just add um into this just so it's part of the public um discussion. We
This is just the plan. We're going to have the redevelopment agreement um at the next meeting. Um Diane who my colleague who had uh her introduction to this last week raised a couple really great um issues that I'm going to address if you don't mind Diane. Um, one
is to um, Tony's point, the parapits, you know, at the top or the the screens around the actual plan requires them. Um, so we will have to have those required in the developers agreement and that's the screen around the utilities that are on um, the roof. Um, second, we
had a long conversation about ensuring because of where this sits. It's in such an important road where we are requiring that they handle all trash underneath the footprint of the property. So, they're going to have to make sure their design allows for that and there won't
be any trash like left on the sidewalks. We have new requirements for big um for big buildings. And then lastly, dog accommodations. We don't know what that is yet, but we will come back and address dog accommodations in the redevelopers agreement. So there, that's everything. >> Thank you, Councilwoman. Um, before I go
to anyone else, I neglected to the the planning board did a consistency review of this amendment and unanimously voted in favor or finding that it was consistent with the master plan and the land use element. There was one
recommendation that the uh which I'll read. The board recommends that in the non-incentivized section of the amending ordinance, if you look at it, it uh the supporting documentation, it's figure 34. The
redevelopers and the city are encouraged to negotiate a more fluid alignment and connection of the linear park to the open space at the northern end of seven. So it's in in one version it's kind of a
>> straight line over and then it kind of jumps up to the northern portion in the incentivized portion which means if they give more public benefits they can get more uh height in this instance
predominantly. Uh, it kind of curves as Councilwoman Fischer described and it lines up with this northern piece better and and the the the planning board felt that that >> curve >> that curve was better than the other
alternative. But if if in the negotiations we ended up without the incentivized, you know, try to work that curve in there anyway. That was the the planning board's recommendation, but we we don't
uh but but overall it was a 100% uh [snorts] unanimous acceptance of the plan uh as consistent with the master plan. >> Um Councilman Cohen. >> Thank you, [clears throat] President. So, uh I've been on the city council for
six years. I've been on the north end redevelopment or uh committee or the community development committee when it wasn't just the north end. And I think in all six years we've been dealing with this project and we've seen a lot of different iterations of it. Uh you know
the the the garage and parking is a big element in this plan. There was a time when there was a swimming pool in this plan. There have been all kind which is another thing that we hear about uptown in the fifth ward. Uh but uh I it I want to give credit to Councilwoman Fischer
for wanting to have the garage and the feedback that I've gotten has been very positive from people uptown. the idea that again in my mind it's not necessarily the thing I think that we'd want to have in that location because it really is close to our waterfront is
close to our parks but I do acknowledge the fact that people are going to be coming and going from this place and and it's also going to support retail as well as and there's going to be a significant retail component here. >> Uh the there was a lot of thought that went
into this design. I want to, you know, give acknowledgement to the Rockefeller team and also to director Brown and the folks in the uh city hall working on the development. Uh Councilwoman Fischer talked about how we don't want a neighborhood looking like Jersey City.
Uh no disrespect to Jersey City, but it it we wanted to have a thoughtful streetscape. You see tearing. You see sightelines preserved. Uh with respect to the linear park, the linear park is central to this design. A large
percentage of this district relates to the linear park subdist uh which opens up onto the 1600 park field. I think families that go to enjoy uh the parks, that go to enjoy the retail, uh that will be walking along our waterfront
park will be enjoying turning off by Weihawk and Cove into this area, uh to be exploring this area, to be shopping in this area, to be going with families, to be relaxing in this area. Uh and for families to move here to live. Uh so I think it it it accomplishes a lot of the
goals. Uh it required a lot of patience. uh uh obviously financial issues relate to this as well. Uh great plans also need to be economically viable plans and that required a lot of time and a lot of
energy from all parts concerned. So uh you know for the folks who worked on this committee uh alongside me councilman Russo Councilman Fischer and the and the people who worked on the prior years on on this you know a lot of a lot of thought went into this. I'm supportive of it. Uh I'm looking forward
to seeing it done. We've seen piles of rubble uh greeting you as you go over the bridge between Weihawken and Hoboken. You know, as you sit through traffic waiting to enter the city, you look at rubble strewn piles. And that's
basically what greets you. And what's going to greet you when this is done is going to be a completely revitalized neighborhood. A neighborhood that didn't exist will exist. And I think it will enhance our city. It will enhance uptown Hoboken and uh and also there are a lot
of green aspects that relate to it. We insisted on having green roofs. We in uh retention basins. There's a lot of green elements in this plan that will work well. We know the rebuild by design uh construction is going there. We hawking Cove was an entry point for supertorm
Sandy that flooded this area. Uh we will have the Wehawing Cove uh resiliency park will be adjacent to this area. It's really I think it's really going to be an exciting addition to Uptown Hope Open. So, thank you, Council President. >> Thank you, Councilman. [laughter]
>> Council President, >> would you like me to continue? Council Russo, Ju just quickly, Council President, um as as [clears throat] most of you know who served with me in the committee here, I still have a little bit of a concern when it comes to parking uh related to this entire project and of course the finances of it
and and the land value, but I think we can move it forward as a plan. Uh and I'm hopeful that in the uh redevelopment agreement we could work some of that out. Um because I think they're minor things. I think we want to make sure that we're allocating parking
for the residents in the buildings. Uh, and that's not an additional fee, right? Because we all know what happens if you're paying those additional fees. People are going to look onto the street first, right? So, there's there's little things in here that I think are still a concern that we could potentially work
out in an agreement. Uh, but I'm okay deferring to the rest of the council and moving this plan forward. Hopefully, we could work those things out. Just wanted to put that on the record. Thank you, Councilman. >> Thank you. >> Uh, Mr. Fina, please call the vote.
>> Mr. Con, >> hi. >> Miss Fischer, >> yes. >> Mrs. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Jabore, >> yes. >> President, >> hi. >> Mr. Cano, >> hi. >> Mr. Ramos, >> hi. >> Mr. Russo, >> I
>> President Doyle, >> I. Hearing on an ordinance authorizing an amendment to and execution of a lease agreement between the city of Hoboken Community Investment Strategy Incorporated as the properties located
at 2591 11th Street, also known as 1033 Willow Avenue, block 172, lot [snorts] 17. >> Uh C. Uh, Miss Waiter says, "Did you sign up for this, >> Patricia?"
>> Did Yeah. I >> Okay. Do would you get break the suspense and tell us what you did sign up for because Or >> Okay, I'll just keep calling you for everyone. All right. No, that's fine. Um, then no other no members of the
public have signed up to speak on this one. Uh, >> there's two. >> Um, you actually you you may have signed the wrong signin sheet because I mean,
sir, are you seeking to speak on 8:26? >> So, we've already called the vote. I [clears throat] >> It's It has passed. So I'm not You can wait till public port. We'd have
to reopen it. I mean, do you >> It's passed. Is that I'm sorry. >> Never say never. >> Yeah. Well, [clears throat] this will reopen it. >> Well, we could move it move it into the
public. >> Well, that will be in about an hour. No, in the agenda public. >> Yeah. >> After the rest of he could speak at the agenda public. >> Yeah, that's fine. But that's not right now. >> No, >> no, just make him suggest a few minutes. >> Few minutes.
>> Stick around. Okay. Thank you. >> Um, no, it's not. >> He was standing here. I thought I thought you were suggesting something else. Councilman. >> Um, so no other members of the public 828. >> Second. >> All right. All those in favor?
>> I. Okay. Um, >> I have a question, >> Councilwoman Fischer. >> Yep. Um, I I think this is for uh maybe corporation council. I when I read through the change to the lease, I see all we're doing is effectively
changing it to an LLC and it seems to be an LLC that is active in the space, but you expanded the language for like a cure provision where originally it was they had a short period of time and now it seems indefinite to cure. Do you know why that or like can you give color
behind that? >> Are you talking about the provision for uh my office to review it? >> I think they expanded it. But I don't know that it was indefinite. I think it was probably the finance. >> I didn't mean in I didn't mean indefinite. It just looked like it went from a short period to something like
very long and I was just curious as to why it they suddenly seem to have not unlimited but a lengthy period of time to cure default. the the the lender had, I think, additional requirements to have rights with regard to a foreclosure
>> as I read it. >> Got it. Okay. No, that's good. That is it. >> All right. You're welcome. >> Thanks. >> Um, Mr. Fina, please call a vote. >> Mr. Con, >> hi. >> Miss Fischer, >> yes. >> Mr. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Jabor,
>> yes. >> President, >> hi. >> Cano, >> hi. >> Mr. Ramos, >> hi. >> Mr. Russo, >> hi. President Doyle >> I hearing on an ordinance amending chapter [snorts] 190-11 entitled loading zones designated to change loading zone
hours at various locations on Washington Street. [snorts] Uh uh Manuel Rivera get back you going to ask [snorts] >> once again thank you council president. President, uh,
I rise to ask a few questions on on this uh, ordinance only because there are me to complain uh, in front of the uh, council to the uh, deputy uh, clerk or the clerk. Uh, it was difficult to get
information from the portal today and yesterday um, to download the the ordinance per se. It kept giving you a error message. I just want to put it out there so um in case no one had noticed or no one gave uh information on that.
So I would like to ask if members of the bubble could understand again those that don't have the opportunity to access the portal what are the times that are being proposed being to be changed why are they being changed is this temporary change for the Christmas season or the
holiday season not to offend anyone and when we also see something attached to it in the consent agenda T I believe it's T2 um in regards to the estipple process of It is that again because of the holiday season and uh can members of
the public also get information on that and since I'm here council president this I was going to say in in public portion but I do have time and I would like to ask or to point out um as I um traverse or walk through the community
and especially the six ward and others. Um we have been noticing uh delivery trucks in loading zone areas um parked for a longer time than required or than the code allows. Um these organizations are dispatching their um packages and
stuff in these areas. Does the city or is the city aware of this and what process is the city um doing to resolve this issue? Do we have a [snorts] special uh relationship
with this company? Thank you. I would say it Amazon. Somebody wants me to say that. So, do we have an agreement with them? Does that agreement entail payment for the use of this space? Uh this these are questions that uh members of the public are
interested in knowing due to the fact that it is public space. It belongs to all of us. We all need to use it at certain points and if it's occupied for extended period of time, how could a grandma or a person with a disability have the access to use that space at
that time? So that's just an extra. You don't have to answer that second part if you do not have that information, but the first part uh we would appreciate it. Thank you and I yel back. >> Thank you. Uh no other members of the public have signed up. Question public speak. I heard a second. Okay, Mr. Franer,
please. >> All those in favor? >> Oh, that's right. >> I >> Okay, so it's closed. >> Say I. >> Yeah. >> With We just closed the public portion and now Councilwoman Fischer would like to speak. Okay. >> Do you want >> Do we need an all in favor?
>> Oh, Em I apologize. The chair of the transportation >> I was just going to answer Manny's question to clarify. Um, so this just updates all of the loading zone timelines to go from 6:00 a.m. to 6 pm or sorry 6:00 a.m. to 700 p.m. for the
stretch of Observer to 8th Street. It makes it uniform because currently some of them start uh at 8:00 a.m. Some of them end at 2 p.m. It just creates a uniform system in terms of the expectation around the hours from 6:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. for all loading zones
uh to be 20-minute loading zones. And as for the second portion, there's no special arrangement. Anyone can park in the delivery spots for 20 minutes. And if somebody's there more than 20 minutes, it's just an enforcement issue. It's not a preferential treatment for one
particular company. >> Council Fischer. So the the question and I exchanged with Greg on text um is can you just talk about what the actual I I think so many people are confused about what the rules are in the loading zones
as well as what the rules are with the cameras like when they're going to be used etc. Um so if you could give color on both that'd be helpful. >> Yeah. So the loading zones aren't designated for a particular type of vehicle or user. So, just like the the ordinance states the if a truck or a
passenger vehicles enters the loading zone and they stay within the posted time limit, they won't there there's no reason that the camera would issue a violation for that that type of >> and and do they all have time limits listed? Do they all say like 20 minutes? >> Yeah, every sign every sign has the the
the times they're in effect and then the duration for when they're in effect. Okay. And whether or not they're photo enforced. And then lastly, and I know it's in there and I haven't I don't think I remember looking for it. The how many of them are currently at 6:00 a.m. Like how how much of a change is that to
um the early and the question stems from people that park overnight and like leave in the morning at 8 to go to work and have been parking in a loading zone overnight. Like how many of those are going to be changed or are most of them already 6:00 a.m.? Most of them are already 6:00 a.m. I think there might be
one or two that are south of First Street that that start at 8. >> Got it. Okay. >> And and the change is 6 to 6, not 6 to 7. >> Manning. So, >> can I >> Thank you. >> Wait, Diane has a question. >> Can I ask a question? Um, so when
>> Councilwoman, >> no one So, remember the public parks there, they will not get a ticket if they're there for less than 20 minutes and it's on the photo system. >> Yeah. During the posted time. So, if it's in effect from 6:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. and you're there parked for for 20 minutes or less, you won't be there's no
violation that would be issued. >> All right. Anyone else? >> Councilman, one quick comment. [clears throat] I've always I never really understood why loading zone would end at 2 o'lock in the middle of a workday when businesses are still getting delivery. I
think this is going to free up in a more common sense way that during the afternoon business hours when deliveries are coming and going and people are picking up things from stores that they'll be able to take advantage of that loading zone and have it dedicated for that and not for 4hour [snorts]
parking. Uh so that's it. Thank you, Council President. >> Thank you, Councilman. Um Mr. Fina, please call the vote. >> Mr. Collins, >> I Fischer, >> yes. >> Mrs. Yes, >> Mrs. Jabbor. >> Yes,
>> President Zano. >> Hi, >> Mr. Cano. >> Hi, >> Mr. Ramos. >> Hi, >> Mr. Russo. >> Hi, >> President Doyle. >> I hearing on an ordinance amending [clears throat] chapter 190-9 entitled stop streets designated to add
multi-way stop controls to the intersection of Park Avenue and 13th Street. Uh, >> Rosemary Markle Hi, I have one quick question. Is this stop sign just for cars or for all
wheeled transportation? Because I have to tell you, I don't ride a bike or have a car. I'm a pedestrian and I'm almost struck by more bicycles than cars. So, is there any way that we can enforce the bicycles to also obey these uh stop signs that are being put all over the
city? Because right now they don't. And I'd really appreciate that. Thank you. >> [snorts] >> Thank you, [clears throat] Miss Markle. Um, Patricia Waiters. I
All right. Well, I still don't know what she signed up for. So, there are no other members of the public to speak. >> Second. >> All those in favor. >> I. [snorts] >> Mr. Fina, >> please call the vote. >> Mr. Con? >> I. >> M. Fischer.
>> Yes. >> Mrs. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Mr. Javore. >> Yes. >> President Zano. >> Hi. >> Mr. Canero. >> Hi. >> Mr. Ramos. >> Hi. >> Mr. Russo. >> Hi. >> President Doyle. >> I. >> Hearing on an ordinance amending chapter
147 mobile rental food vendor and chapter 179A taxi cabs to remove fixed calendar renewal dates and transition to rolling approvals and renewals. [snorts] >> No members of the public have signed up
to speak. Close public portion. >> Second. >> Uh, all those in favor? >> I. >> Mr. Fina, please call the vote. >> Mr. Con? >> Hi. >> Fisher. >> Yes. >> Mrs. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Jabore. >> Yes. >> President Xano.
>> Hi. >> I. >> Mr. Canero. >> I. >> Mr. Ramos. >> Hi. >> Mr. Russo. >> Hi. >> President Doyle. >> Hi. Hearing on an ordinance amending chapter 192-4A entitled parking for persons with disabilities
to remove reserve spaces on Willow Avenue and add a reserve space on Boomfield Street. >> Pascalina. [cough] >> Okay. I'm Pascalina. I'll be here a lot of time. Everybody
know me. What's the risk? I'm tired. They betrayed this mean arrest for me. They arrest, they insult, they want intimidate. So many park no more press too many cup even if for no reason. I apply nine
years ago. I pay the money. I give all of the paper. But they all the time they invent something across the street for me is a park for two sign. But when I told BR lawy that's illegal one week the
lady come and put the plate so many played in back of the car Dominic that's true okay I realize how many people got the prayer t whatever they call not that no pay money and no nothing I'm tired to
wait people should feel bad to make me come here so many time that's excuse That's a rest whatever they call it. I have a paper. I did everything. The only thing they got to give me the what they want
to meet the park. So many handicap they make ruin out. You want the ruin? Too many people got handicap. People might be [snorts] buy the little thing in the car for the friend of whatever. I went to the data show the pro I was hurt. I'm
not too young and I want to juice the park. If you have a park for everybody don't have a small space for me. One said that one another one said that one. No fish enough. I want my space. I don't want to betray
this respect. [snorts] >> Okay. Thank you. >> So I know a brand lawyer is involved to give ordin to do. I just to talk to you remember give ordin thank you very much for listen and I don't think I going to wait no long I
realize [snorts] what they do good night >> thank you [snorts] any uh no other members of the public assigned up to speak >> closed public portion >> all those in favor >> I [clears throat] >> Mr. [snorts] Mr. Fina, I believe you can
call the vote. >> Hi. >> Miss Fischer, >> yes. >> Mrs. >> Yes. >> Mr. Jabor, >> yes. >> President [clears throat] Xano, >> hi. >> Mr. Cano, >> hi. >> Mr. Ramos, >> hi. >> Mr. Russo, >> hi. >> President Doyle, >> I
said Jerry. [snorts] >> Okay. Is Counciloman Russo, is this when you thought there would be a good time for the public portion for the gentleman to speak? >> Why not? >> We might learn something for the >> No, I I it could be there's another
public portion, but >> the gentleman who's >> I I don't know your name because I can't find it on the list. If you could come up and uh >> I will uh keep it somewhat brief. Uh my name is Lucas Kabalsk. the owner of the Gravity Vault indoor rock climbing
facility at 1423 Clinton. Um here with a couple of other fellow business owners in the area and we are in support and in favor of the Rockefeller Group's application which I know you've already approved. Um what we wanted to beg of the council was to consider that the current amount of development going on
in the north end has created a situation where our businesses are suffering dramatically. We don't have the ability to have our customers, never mind our staff, have a place to park. Hearing a resident talk about driving around the block for an hour, it's common place.
I'm seeing members and memberships getting cancelled on a daily basis because people are just becoming so frustrated with trying to basically patronize my business. The thought process was if these developers are doing these great things and basically building out these spaces, if there's a way to require them to provide off-
streetet parking during this phase for the next five years, we're going to be under construction on the north end one city square block at a time. Again, I'm in favor of it. Would love to see that happen. I've been there for seven years. We were more of trailblazing on the north end when it happened, but street
parking is the livelihood of my business. That's where people park. Average customer of mine stays for about an hour to an hour and a half. So, I see the cycle of those parking spaces turn on a regular basis. We're now seeing full city square blocks being cordoned off and all of the available parking
being blocked. the block in front of my of my business on 14th Street uh was closed for one month, one week at a time. One week at a time. Posted no parking from 6:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. I actively reached out to Phil Con. I actively reached out to the mayor's
office. I was calling the police department on a daily basis because not only were the streets blocked, but we had utility trucks like PSEG um uh air groupoup HVAC contractors taking the parking spots and not just taking them but staying for 8 to 10
hours at a time. So again, where my customers are churning and turning every hour and a half to two hours, 50 parking spaces can be utilized by hundreds of people over the course of a day. They're being sat on all day long. So again, in full support of the development, want to
see the north end be developed, but if there's a way that you as a council can somehow put in the ordinances or in these approvals that these developers have to provide again systematically off- streetet parking, maybe just for our our employees, they're residents of
Hobok and we want to see these even in many cases young children, high school, Stevens College students have jobs, but they can't park and are driving around the block. Then I'm writing them up for being late. I have birthday parties and people cancing their memberships because
they can't access my space. I don't want development to come at the foothills of businesses being closed. And we're literally in the stage of the last few months seeing that much of an effect. And you know, it's dramatic, but it's very real. And I'm raising the white
flag. I've tried to reach out to everybody I could. I've reached out to the developers. I've reached out to the landlord who I have who owns adjacent properties. What can you do? can you provide parking? What can we do in the short term? And everyone has basically said, we need to go back to the city. We need the city to basically make it
easier for them to provide parking for these individuals. Require all of the utilities, require all the contractors to park off the street. Make sure that they don't park and take up parking spaces for 8 to 10 hours at a time. They sit in our loading zones. They've closed my street for four weeks in a row. All
of these things are coming at the detriment of those local businesses. We want to see it thrive. We want to still be there when that happens. So if there's any way that you can see, I don't have the right answer. Happy to have a private meeting in response to that. Have many ideas. I've shared them with Phil. I've shared them with the
mayor's office. But I think that there needs to be a way for the council to see that this is going to be >> something. >> It's going to get worse before it gets better. And that's what I think we all see. Again, Gravity Vault owner, Hudson Table owner, Hudson Sonica owner, we're all on that north end. We're all within
a city block of each other. And the last several months, we've seen our revenues, our customers all become slashed. Dramatic, dramatic numbers because of what's going on, and it's going to get worse before it gets better. Parking is the issue. We know that the light is at the end of the tunnel, but what can we
do in the short term and what can you do to help us? >> Thank you. I I I know it's not going to be the solution. I can tell you that with this development, uh, the Rockefeller Group or whatever Park Willow LLC is required to
build the garage first before they can break ground for any of the other buildings. So, it it will be a, you know, it'll be up front. It won't be in in a day. >> We were in touch with them and they said it would be finished in 2029. >> Oh, yeah. It's not a tomorrow thing. >> And three years from now, it'll be
fantastic again. But the next >> in the agreement, I mean, we just the city just negotiated for 914 to 9:30 Monroe where they had to onsite accommodate the parking for their their workers, you know, which could be an awful lot of, you know, they're
building, I don't know, 700 units or something. So, anyway, there are things we can try to do. Um, uh, and Councilman Cohen, did you >> Yeah, thanks. Uh, first I want to acknowledge all three of you. I we've been in touch. There have been instances
where there was over signage for no parking where the Department of Transportation actually physically went out into the neighborhood and resigned uh things that were that should not have been no parking because the work wasn't actually going on at that time. I know
how frustrating that was for you guys >> and respectfully we brought it to your attention. So that's I mean again we're trying to run our businesses and not have to monitor when the no parking signs are going up or coming down. you brought it to our attention. I got on it. The director of transportation went out there personally with his staff and
they they tried to address that when you brought to our attention in real time. Uh speaking of in real time, I don't with all you know with I recognize that having that lot in 2029 is not going to help you between now and then, but there are continuing conversations. I've been
in touch with Rockefeller Group about some additional proposals in the interim while the construction's going on. There are costs associated with creating a a a lot where heavy vehicles can park on it where it's just dirt or or stones and
things like that. So, it's not like you can just have people roll onto these properties and park their cars during construction, but there are active discussions going on. I had some of them missed earlier this week, so stay tuned on that. Uh it will require some
financial commitment from some of the developers in the neighborhood. So, I I would like to think that the city will encourage them to make those contributions because even though it will be temporary parking on those sites, uh it would mean a lot to to you you guys. And if they could have the construction vehicles in the
neighborhood off the streets so that your customers can use those streets, that would you know, you're putting up with a lot right now. Uh and it is for the long-term good of the neighborhood and the city and that infrastructure needs to be built for this project to be done. But you
guys have been here through COVID. I know you're a new member of the business community, but we'd like to see you guys succeed and stay. So, we're going to continue that dialogue. I don't think you necessarily have to wait until 2029 to get that parking. We're going to see if we can do something sooner. So, >> we'll be here in 2029 if we do. I mean,
being very transparent and if there's a way to even force them to subsidize the local garage. Our customers are accustomed to paying for parking. They pay the street rates, but you try to send us to private garages and they are charging $15 or $20 for what would have been $2 or $3 on the street. It just
doesn't make financial sense for customers to still come and pay that. So, if again there's a way that the council if you can force the developers as part of their ordinances and their approvals to have to subsidize a certain amount of public parking to allow residents uh or patrons to come into the
city to to visit our businesses and to >> patronize the businesses without having to pay a you know >> an added >> and we recognize it's not just it's not just for your customers, it's for your employees as well. It's for everyone to service your business. So,
>> yep. Council President, I I I think I think the um what we haven't done a good job of as a city around all of these projects is we don't solve for this exact issue. We don't solve for, you know, the lease disruption to our residents and our local businesses. And we definitely can do more. I mean, we
saw that with Jersey Avenue when they wanted to close it for 5 months and that was just because that's what the contractor wanted. Well, that didn't work for the city and we pushed back and we were able to get it to one month. All of these projects, we should be I say we, we have two people that are going to be the next mayor. Um, we should be
insisting that any project solve for protecting the residents and access, you know, going through streets. We don't have to close a really giant wide street necessarily and just shut down all of the parking um to accommodate a project that could potentially be done like on
one side and then do the other side and protect parking. Um, and I think the other thing is, you know, you watch large projects be done in in a place like New York City all the time and the contractors are just forced to park in a garage. Like we we should be requiring that these contractors aren't allowed to
pro or or um park on site. They should be required to either park in a garage or even like park in Sakus and take the path in like park in a lot somewhere further a field and have a shuttle come in. But like it should be a minimum requirement for our office of emergency
management, our HPU, all of all of our departments should not just hand out temporary parking, no parking signs just because someone paid. We should have a very very rigid, you know, law that says for these long um projects, they shouldn't be allowed to do that. Even we
even have projects on the side streets, not the big ones, where we have contractors that are allowed to have temporary no parking signs for 2 years, and they take up four parking spots on a residential block in a neighborhood that can't afford, you know, four. Like, have
those contractors go park in a garage somewhere and let the, you know, the person doing construction um incur that cost. So, I think there's just a lot more that we can do. Um, and I think hopefully we'll have an opportunity to do that with a more interested uh, mayor. Both of these guys will be an interested mayor.
>> Thank you. >> Um, by the way, I have noticed >> speak into the microphone if you would and please wrap up too. Sorry. >> I have noticed, by the way, uh, less uh, contractors on the streets, so I appreciate it. Um, and he's aware as well. Um, I've been there 11 years, so
I've been, you know, pretty fully invested. And one of the big pulls of being in that part of town has been the fact that in a [snorts] town where parking is not very common, it is it used to be common and now it's actually the opposite. Um, obviously that's not anyone's problem. It's not even, you
know, I signed up for what I signed up for, but I think some more clarity on how long like the between 15th and 16th on Clinton is now completely there. one side has 20 parking spots that are gone because of the not the Poji press but
the other um Beiju Advance project. >> It would be great to know how long that's going to be bumped out for construction. Um little things like that which aren't really discussed. How long are we going to lose 20 spots on, you know, in an area where was pretty much easy to find spots. Little things like that that I don't think are actually
brought up on these conversations cuz I also live above Hudson Table. Um and I, you know, I have a daughter. I can't even I don't even know where to walk half the time, which isn't necessarily development. It's partially other, you know, street projects and things like that. But it's it's extremely disruptive. And, you know, like Lucas
said, we we're we're very much prodevelopment. We're in favor of this project. We want it to happen. Um, but, you know, we have 10-year leases with 5year options. We're not we're not in this necessarily for 20, 30 years. So I think we're also, you know, Yash and I
from Hutonica, we're all pretty intelligent business people that can come up with plans that are reasonable and affordable um and ideas that can potentially, you know, limit limit the disruption for the next 3 to 5 years. So
>> thank you. I appreciate >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> It's a vexing issue certainly. Um, Rosemary Markle, you signed up for >> quite a few tonight. >> Who's playing with the mic?
>> Um, okay. So, I could talk about the consent agenda, correct? >> Yes. >> So, under claims, because you all know by now I read every one of them, there's a check that was made out for $1,250 for sketches for the mayoral portrait. Is this really a necessity? Considering
we're we're in a crunch here and all we keep doing is getting a tax increase. I'm assuming they're hung somewhere in city hall, but since residents aren't allowed to walk around, who gets to see them? Um, under the resolutions A1, it's a
dispensary. Where is this dispensary going to be located? Since I didn't find any address in the back except for the office address, is that where this disp dispensary will be going? Then the next three items and then I'll be done. I'm talk want to talk about fiscal
responsibility. CA5 since the contractor made this problem will they be reimbursing the city? Why should be on we be on the hook for mistakes and why did this happen when we hire engineers to oversee all projects? Maybe the engineers should also reimburse the city. CA7 North Hudson Sewage Authority
should be paying for this one. After all, it was their hire that made all these mistakes and had to be removed and we had to hire new people. CA new engineers since again things weren't done properly. Will we get money back from the engineers that were assigned to this project and didn't account for all
that is listed in the backup? I mean, we really have to think about like these gentlemen said about parking for their businesses. When you're just giving away parking spaces willy-nilly, you take them away from one spot, they get taken away from every spot in the town. We're one square mile. Um, that's it for that
on the ordinances for the first reading. I have to do that after the >> Yeah. All right. Sorry. >> That's all right. >> Thank you. >> Uh, Patricia Waiters. >> Okay. Thank her. Um, [clears throat]
Pascalina Angel, I think she has departed. And Manuel Rivera. Thank you, Council President Manuel Soler. Council President, just before a preamble before I continue, uh, no, I
just want to let the people know, no, I am not jinxed. I am not a jinxed. Uh this was because a comment that I made two meetings ago when I said I was going to speak in consent agenda for the last time as a member of the public could
have jinxed myself but [snorts] uh no not a jinx. I just said that I wasn't speaking in that section not that I was not speaking in public portion. Anyway, just wanted to correct that record. I just don't want to be looked at as a jinx. Uh also council president if I can now continue
in consent agenda. Yes, I would like to also know on A1 the agreement that was made or the approval that was made for the um uh Karma dispensary if members of the public could find more information again today's anomaly it was difficult
to get the information on the uh portal uh again CA one CA2 CA2 council president um if you can that members of the public the reason why that um bid was rejected the um
the formality as to which why these bids get rejected sarity and who does the rejecting also council president by continuing consent agenda CA 5 CA8 CA 9
in community development sorry that one was out I was going to say CD2 but finances F1 one and in CL1 the clerks. I would just like to know it says here you're you're
calling for the um meetings of uh a special meeting on November 5th. Can you please let members of the public was it a normal November 5th election council, pardon me, November 5th council meeting or is the
special meeting minutes because you had a a prior uh meeting amongst yourselves? Is that the reason and is that why that's being called a special uh minutes? Uh, of course, and corporation council, I don't want him to always be
left out. CC C1 CC2 and council president and transportation and parking. I made a mistake before. I meant to say in B 829 T3 which is the estapole for for um the
loading zones. And that was the the question and council president if you could help members of the public understand another point of order in regards to this agenda. Um, is it and I I've been confused for a couple of weeks maybe because I was busy. Um, but when
now you say um on second reading, there's a separate um section now where members of the public can ask questions on pardon me on on first reading. Um I don't know. I didn't think that was uh allowed to ask questions. I thought it was all in the
same agenda. Were you separated and is that the way it's going to be always and going forward? and council president. Uh yeah, I still have time, but I will be uh gracious and yield back in case you're able to answer any of the questions. [clears throat] >> Thank you.
>> Thank you, Manny. Um just as a overview, the the bids came in much higher than we expected. So, we rejected all of them because we don't have the money to pay for them. um the the with regard we don't take public
comment on first readings period. So but because the public complained [clears throat] that they that the public portion at the end of the meeting was after the first readings have been voted on. We've moved the the general public portion where you
can speak about anything you want not related to the agenda necessarily and you can that is right before the the first readings. So in theory you could come up and talk about the first reading if you are so inclined just like you
could talk about it after the first reading as we had done before. So as far as the other eight or 10 that you um you know CL1, I asked the same question about the special meeting. So, great
minds think alike, Manny. Uh, the closed session before the meeting was is a special meeting. So, anyway, I think >> All right. Is that okay? I got some of them. Um, no other members of the public are signed up.
>> Close public portion. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. [snorts] >> Okay. So, council members, would you like to inform me as to which items you like pulled?
>> Okay. >> A1. >> Uh, which one? >> CC1. >> CC1. >> One. Yep. So, A1 and CC1. Okay. >> CA8.
>> It's first read. Excuse me. >> Go ahead. I'm gonna I'm gonna talk to corporation. I'm good. >> CA8. >> CA8. >> Yeah. Just for a vote. [clears throat] [snorts] >> Okay. Um, anyone else? So, Mr. Parina
>> claims A1, CA6, CA8, CC1. >> [snorts] >> And I think I'm not missing anything. So >> claims. Yeah, you said claims. >> I said claims. Yep. Uh, so on the rest,
Mr. Fina, please call the vote. >> Mr. Con, >> hi. >> Miss Fischer, >> yes. >> Mrs. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Jabor, >> yes. >> President Xano, >> hi. >> Mr. Cano, >> hi. >> Mr. Ramos, >> hi. >> Mr. Russo, >> hi. >> President Doyle,
>> I. >> So, claims Councilman President. Yeah, I've got Rose picked up a good one. So, I'll give you credit for reading. Well, hello. I'll give you You found it. I found it as well. So, I was looking at
this. Um I just curious, is this a common practice with all mayors that we do paintings for them? I guess a sketch then would lead to a painting would lead to something hanging on the wall, which I see upstairs when we get the opportunity to get on the third floor or the second floor. Um is this something
common? And I'm asking it because I don't know. So I don't know who who's been here the longest. Somebody could >> I think well the fact that there are portraits on the second floor answer the question partially but I don't know whether every prior mayor has had that.
I don't know whether Councilman Russo could share some it hasn't been uh and I don't know how they've all been paid for. Some may have been donated. Some may have been paid by the city. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Well, Mr. Stratton, do you want to
add anything on this or you >> I I can tell you that um prior Mayor Zimmer had a sketch or a portrait started and she decided not to complete it and that's extent of my knowledge of past portraits for >> all right then. [snorts]
Okay. >> She she didn't complete it >> and then she moved. >> She didn't like it. [laughter] >> No, I don't know. I'm only kidding. I'm only kidding. >> All right. Um, then I have a second one which is uh 25502835 which is the New York City Department of
Finance and it's a violation so it's 75 bucks. So I'm guessing either a parking ticket or a toll fine of some sort. Uh I know it's minutia >> 2500285. >> Uh 252835 kind of on page four halfway down.
>> Um >> 28 >> I think it's on page four. >> That's okay. I think >> I'm just asking what what is that? Is that a Is that one of our city vehicles or one of our >> I think director >> or one of our employees >> Bratton would be the best person. >> If you give me a second, I'll look up the violation.
>> Okay. You >> okay? >> A voice from the heavens. >> Yeah, that's what I was just going to say. >> The uh it was the sketch artist. [laughter] >> Our detective bureau had an investigation that took them into the city while they were parked conducting
that investigation. >> They dinged them. They they were not immune to receiving a parking summon and now we have to pay it. >> Family don't stick together. Huh? >> Uh we tried. Uh [laughter] they they refused to uh >> okay dismiss that. >> Well, when they come here to to Hobok and then I hope you hit the New York
City uh PD cars then. >> Did they did they get a a sketch of the person who gave him the ticket? >> But that's shed light on that summon. Yes. >> Thank you. >> Okay. >> So, I guess we can vote on claims. >> Yes.
All right, Mr. Mr. Finach >> on the claims. Mr. Con? >> I >> M. Fisher. >> Yes. >> Mrs. >> Yes. >> Mr. Jabore. >> Yes. >> President Dano. >> No. On 25-02707
sketch. Yes. For everything else. >> Mr. Cano. >> I. >> Mr. Ramos. >> Hi. >> Mr. Russo. >> Hi. >> President Doyle. >> Hi. Uh CA6 I believe >> that
>> A1 A1 >> A1 don't count. >> Oh, I skipped over. I'm sorry. A1. Yes. That which is a resolution approving a community host agreement with Karma Dispensary LLC. Counciloman Fischer. >> Yep. So
we they didn't give us any information about it. uh the dispensary. It hasn't gone to the planning board yet and gotten approval. We haven't approved it. So why are we even looking at a host agreement right now? It feels like this
is premature and we should just wait until it goes through the process and comes to us after all the approvals are done. >> What' you say? Well, I mean, >> well, corporation council, can you tell
us the order of operations, which it has to go through? >> Truth be told, I don't know the order of operations. As I sit here off the top of my head, I can tell you that this was reviewed by the cannabis uh review attorney. Um, as far as its completion,
um, I can look into I don't know the details of what this applicant has been through and what our ordinance currently says off the top of my head. We can get back to you. No, I don't think so. >> I don't think there's any urgency because we have we have we haven't we have to approve it as a council. >> Yeah.
>> And even even just getting more information like I I didn't >> it is a Newman leathers cuz I >> No, I know I know it's a new I know it's a Newman leather because it said 300 observer and I had just generally heard it but it's not um I think we just typically will get more information
before we're approving it. We haven't gotten anything. So >> yeah, I mean I there is a problem >> a chicken and an egg element to it. I mean it it obviously will never >> become effective if they never get a license. So but the and if they were if
it was being suggested to initiate the negotiations I might agree that like what why bother to pay someone to negotiate a contract but now that it's done I I guess we can put it on a shelf and wait until >> just wait until the whole the whole thing comes to us, right? and the
planning board sees it and [snorts] and >> yeah, >> as opposed to us doing a preliminary approval of something that we have no idea anything about about it. I I just feel like we do these host agreements after the fact. We don't typically do them before the fact. So, >> we have all of all of them been after
the fact. So, I I don't see if there's an urgency then that's a different story, but >> just table it or >> table just it for now. >> Yeah. >> All right. Is there any reason director Stratton that that would be >> I mean the agreement's ripe. Uh it's
been before the board and >> the cannabis review board, >> right? But it hasn't gone to the planning board yet. >> I'm okay with tableling it. >> The community host agreement. >> What was profered in the community host agreement I don't anticipate changing based on the planning board feedback or
this board's feedback. This was negotiated by the mayor and presented to the council. >> He said he'd carry it. So, >> well, the the sponsor has said he's okay with tableling it. Is there a second? >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I >> I >> uh Mr. Con.
>> I >> Miss Fiser. >> Yes. This is vote to table. >> Mrs. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Jabore. >> Yes. >> President Zano. >> Hi. >> Mr. Cano. >> Hi. >> Mr. Ramos. >> Hi. >> Mr. Russo. >> Hi. >> President Doyle. >> I Okay.
[clears throat] CA6, which is a resolution declaring an emergency requiring construction of the Madison Street area water main emergency improvements in the city of Hobok and Hudson County, New Jersey to prevent further damage and mitigate danger to
human life and safety, the environment and surrounding infrastructure. I believe this was council >> just uh director Gonzalez I think you could probably fill me and I read it and I was just kind of like hm I know there's some electrical lines it looks like with the water and maybe you could
give a little and then this would lead me to the second question I know we're doing first reading on the bond so I'm guessing it's connected to the bond or no >> not at all no totally unrelated >> really okay um well maybe we could do both of those at once because I didn't get a chance to ask about the bond but
do the bond second this one I want to know more about what happened talking about on the first reading. >> Yeah, the first reading. I didn't I don't even know like >> so I'm I figured we have her up here and I'd ask. >> Sure. >> Do you want to go out of sequence? You just doing anything you feel like doing? >> No, no, no, no. I want to know the CA6
because it I thought it was connected. I thought it was connected. >> All right. >> Well, I certainly hope it is ending mid December. That is what we are December. We are striving for weeks away. >> Um we are aiming for the water work to be done uh right after Thanksgiving. um
if not by Thanksgiving and then the paving will happen after that. >> Right. >> Assuming water I'm sorry, water >> water on the mind weather um holds out. >> Yeah. >> So, >> so what happened? As the resolution says, there was a very
critical near miss safety incident by the original contractor who was hired by North Hudson Sewage Authority, but through a shared services agreement that was executed with the city council wherein the um city pays for the water work and North Hudson Sewage Authority pays for the sewer work. NHSA was uh you
know managing they bid out the project. It went to a standard low bid contractor. Um they had a very significant safety incident. I'm happy to discuss more about that safety incident with you offline. Um as a result, we were not confident in their
ability to complete the rest of the project, the water work, which was the scope of which the city is responsible for um safely or frankly effectively on our most vulnerable infrastructure. Um so we did remove that work from the NHSA contract. We did receive a a credit for
the remaining work under that contract. Reduced that purchase order or uh issued this emergency purchase authority for this contract. Working with a contractor whom is a pre-qualified contractor for all of our water work in town and [snorts] does um very reliable work.
>> I was just trying to figure out the the circle of uh life there. But thank you. That that clears it up. >> Sure. >> Thank you. >> Uh >> thank you. Thank you for the the comprehensive explanation, director. Um,
are we uh Councilman, are you >> I'm good. I just I would would ask on the on the I know I'm jumping out of term, but I'm asking you on the first reading. I'd like to know a little bit more about the bond. I didn't have a chance. I'd really some family stuff at a table. >> Yeah. When why don't we do that when we get there? >> Yeah. Yeah, that's fine. I just wanted to make sure before we vote.
>> We would like to look at, you know, >> uh I'll keep my mouth shut. All right. Mr. Finip, will you please call a vote on CA6? >> Mr. Con, >> hi. >> Mr. Fischer, >> yes. >> Dish, >> yes. >> Mr. Jabor, >> yes.
>> President Jano, >> hi. >> Mr. Cano, >> hi. >> Mr. Ramos, >> hi. >> Mr. Russo, [clears throat] >> I >> President Doyle, >> I. >> So, CA8, a resolution granting waiver of Hoboken's noise control ordinance for the Madison Street area infrastructure
improvements project along Madison Street between 9th Street and 11th Street. Councilman Russo. >> Council President, thank you. I'm just going to briefly say I think our residents just need some relief. We're constantly that they're dealing with this these
projects all across the city now. They're dealing with them overnight. They're deal I mean it's getting more and more difficult for residents and families to just function on a normal basis. Um it may prolong the project a little bit,
but I think extending the hours uh becomes problematic. So um I'm going to vote no on it. [snorts] >> Council President, Councilman Cohen, >> just just a brief uh comment on this. Uh in order to do this work, you have to
disconnect the water to uh relocate the water manes. when you have uh like daycarees and schools, you really can't shut them down during the daytime. Uh the folks in this neighborhood have put up with a lot and they've been in touch with me a lot about this.
>> Uh if it's not done overnight, if it's done during daytime hours, not only is it going to >> shut down, yeah, the shop rights in the neighbor there, a a lot of businesses are going to be adversely impacted. Traffic flow is going to be adversely impacted. uh by doing it overnight, you're allowing them to complete this
project and actually get the road paved before the asphalt uh suppliers shut down for the winter. So, the hope is is that for these few weeks of getting this done, you're going to be able to get Madison Street paved for this neighborhood, which again, they put up
with a lot and and this is not good. It is a legit emergency, though, and uh if it had gone the way it had should have gone the first time through, we wouldn't be here. understood, >> but the contractor created a real terrible situation and it had to get fixed. So anyway, thank you, Council
President. >> Council President, >> can Yeah. Only only because I thought we had this conversation in our and then you sent an email saying that it was ending anyway. >> Yep. If I could clarify, so this is
basically a just in case. Um, we do not think there will be any additional night work necessary. The first week of night work was necessary because of the service transfers that Councilman Cohen um referenced that we discussed in subcommittee. Um we are keeping this on the agenda solely because there are
still two more tie-ins that need to occur. One at 10th and one at 11th. Um could result potentially in a need for some select overnight work, but we're really hoping it doesn't. For example, we were able to complete the tie-in at 9th last night, I'm sorry, today during
the day. So our hope is that this is not necessary but we wanted to in full transparency come to you and ask for ask for authorization just in case it is we are continuing during the day to be very clear. [snorts] >> Thank you director.
>> Uh Mr. Fina please call the vote. >> Mr. Con. >> Hi. >> Miss Fischer. >> Yes. >> Mrs. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Jabore. >> Yes. >> President. >> Hi. >> Mr. Cano. Hi, >> Mr. Ramos. >> Hi, >> Mr. Russo. >> No,
>> President Doyle. >> I uh CC1, which is a resolution amending the professional services contract with Hanrahan PAC LLC for general litigation
council in the increased amount of $40,000 for a new contract amount of $75,000. Councilwoman Fischer. >> Yeah. Just uh it's a big increase and it didn't say what they were working on. >> Sure. So, they're working on the
Marshall versus City of Hoboken matter. >> If if you're not familiar with that, I we can go into close session, discuss the update of it. >> Okay. No, I'm not, but that's okay. Everyone else seems to know what it is. Um Okay. And 40,000 just >> [snorts] >> uh gets us to the end of the year. And
actually the GIF is covering uh some of the other legal fees imposed and I actually wrote them a letter. I want to say it was last week requesting that they cover this. We might actually get reimbursed. >> Great. Okay. Thank you. [snorts] >> Thank you. Uh Mr. Fina, please call a
vote. >> Mr. Cohen, >> hi. >> Miss Fischer, >> yes. >> Mrs. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Jabore. >> Yes. >> President Zano. >> Hi. >> Mr. Pantero. >> Hi, >> Mr. Ramos. >> Hi, >> Mr. Russo.
>> Hi, >> President Toily. >> I on to public portion comments on anything. So, uh, Tony Sorz, I believe you signed up.
Well, you're entitled to speak on whatever you like and you're interested in the first of the first readings. >> Yeah. Um just I'm just just general public portion is what I'm interested. Um yeah, I got it. I think they can hear me. Thank you, Tony. Um Ballards, what
is going on in this city? I am sorry. I've lived in this town for 35 years. There has not been a lot of people killed because we didn't have ballards. They are ugly. They are unsightly. And they are killing businesses left and right on 11th and Grand Dolce and Salado
Cafe that I'm as people know I'm involved with just because I manage the building. But they were perfectly they never have problems with double parking. They have never problems with sight lines. It's a dead end. They just put up 12 ballards on four corners and a bumpout.
It's just stupidity. It's showboating to say to bike hoboken, oh look what we're doing to say to national politics, come and tour our city. Look at all our daylighting. Back when Dave Roberts was mayor, he put those pedestri pedestrian, you know, stopped for pedestrians. It it
slowed down traffic way more effectively. And the other thing about the Ballards, the trucks just park right over them. They're parking right over them. They're not saving lives. They're killing the charm of the city. It's just it's just a a political publicity. The
other thing about it, last week I was driving down Willow Avenue, police cars behind me. Had to pull over. But guess what? You can't pull over when there's Ballards. So I had to keep driving and driving and driving four blocks before there was a place to pull over because
Willow Avenue by the hospital, everything is very narrow. So the Ballards did that. I'm sorry. I have a little Mazda. I'm trying to be green and energy efficient with my little Mazda. Well, I can't drive over a Ballard because it'll, you know, ruin the bottom of the car. So, like, can we just stop?
Does somebody Is somebody like Do we have like a sale on these somewhere or I mean, I'm not being I'm not trying to be a jerk about it. But it's just ugly, too. You don't even And since we always point to Jersey City as being [clears throat] the best with when it comes to bikes, they don't do this. They
don't do this. They have like they let you park within like 10 ft of a crosswalk. And it's the truth. I'm there all the time. Nobody can dispute that. AVA parking. There's way too much abuse. You're giving out the handicap spots in this town like it's candy. I was on that
committee. Was on that committee and we were tough. If you are entitled to a handicap license plate, which I have myself, or a tag that does not entitle you to a permanent handicap spot on the street, we have blocks now where people
just are getting them. We have people right in this vicinity running their businesses and getting handicap tags and license plates so they can have a spot in front of their house to run their b business out of. I would always say like you know you what we should do we really
should do is take out the etcher sketch shake it up clear the slate and then do what the state requires which is x amount of spots per you know per the percentage. So, if I go to Shore Hills Mall, which I haven't been to in many
years, um like there if I want to use the handicap spot, if it's full, sorry, I can't. And what we do in only in extreme situations, someone who is in a motorized wheelchair or someone who's really permanently disabled, not arthritis, and they have to use a cane
once in a while, they get the spot in front of their house. Someone who has a child that need that can't walk or or needs has mobility or a person who whatever the disability is. I don't want to be be the judge of that, but we are the we've gotten we're just way too I
mean like the whole block of Clinton Street from in front of Columbus Park, the entire thing. I mean, that's just not possible that there's that many people that should have those spots. I mean, you you see it you see it all over town now and it's getting bad. And what
it's doing is it's making it for people who really need the disabled spots become the enemy of the people who want parking spots just in general because I hear from people all the time, oh those damn handicap spots everywhere. They're taking them all up and people aren't taking, you know, and and it's a real
need for that now on ADA compliance, too. The city still does a crap job enforcing ADA compliance. Zoning board is not following it. Planning board's not following it. Right. people when they redo a building up to a certain percentage, they have to be ADA
compliant. They get told, I've been told, and I don't know if it's true or not, that sometimes the zoning officer tells them, "How do you avoid doing the handicap the ADA compliance?" We have stores where the dining is downstairs. They say, "Oh, well, we're going to have the same thing upstairs." Well, guess
what? One of the places that did that, it's going to be two different concepts. So if you want to bring your elderly parent or you break your leg skiing or if you do have a disab of permanent disability, you might not be able to enjoy the lower level of a new venue coming to Hoboka or one that's already here. It's a serious thing. It is
segregation. It is a civil rights law. It's a federal law. We're worrying about a bike not being able to go down like one street because of a of a weird, you know, like because they don't want parking. But we have people who can't even get a wheelchair into a restaurant.
And I'm sure we all know someone who's probably experienced that. Um, historic preservation, I I really think it's important our town to have it. But the current commission is allowing now mall strip mall style backlit signs where I I
don't want to pick on the business, but one's like a dog place up town. It's pink. Like it's backlit neon backlit. Not even historic neon. The Whole Food sign looks like it should be on Route 17. I mean, it does. It looks like a strip mall. I mean, >> Mr. Sorus, can you please wrap it up?
>> Oh, all right. So, anyway, I thought we had longer time at the I thought we had seven minutes now, but So, all right. That's all that's all I have. All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. [clears throat] >> Uh, Enrique Herrera. >> Thank you, Council President. Uh, I'd
like to dedicate this uh public portions to floater friends and definitions and stuff like that involving outsiders of friend groups and corp friend groups. [clears throat] Flo 101. A floater friend is someone who socializes with multiple friend groups but isn't a core member of any single
one. They're often friendly and easy to go along with, [clears throat] participating in many group activities but without being central to the planning or deeper conversations. This role can be both freeing due to lack of group pressure and lonely and isolated
as they may lack a solid core group of support. Kudos from social media. I got that definition from there. Including the second part of this would be social deprivation and lack of knowledge of that topic matter of you not being a part of a core friend group
that induces social hardship much like financial deprivation that induces financial hardship. should be looked upon by law enforcement as abuse and defamation by or family, friends or and professional contacts that who have defamed the man or woman in question or
remove them based upon mechanical dating systems or you couldn't bring them up the right way in conversation or song which led to their misfortune of finding out things of that nature. How do you how do you live knowing you don't speak the name of that person in a core friend
group or you don't talk to that person? Uh it befuddles most and to find that you're not a part of any friend group. It it or at least not included in anything. That's one way of describing
that type of social anxiety when it comes down to meeting new people. You're left thinking that you're like a Morgan from Walking Dead of the Friend group or anything like that. So, [clears throat] I'm going to just reiterate that. How do you how do you live now knowing you don't speak the name Enrique Herrera?
Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Herrera. Patricia Waiters. >> We going to miss you. Council President Patricia Waiters. All right. And this is for whoever watching and don't like the way I talk. Don't watch cuz I'm not
going to change who I am. Um, just a few things. I'mma call it housekeeping like you, Mr. President. Today, I love the way Tony Sores spoke. I must respect respectfully say that first because I did sit on that committee with him, but five years
before he even came to that committee. But all of these things we come to this body addressed and are we being taken serious? We know what's getting ready to happen in two weeks. Pat waiters don't sugarcoat anything. Y'all seen the last election. Pat waiters is loud and I'm
proud of it. Pat waiters don't mind losing a vote or two cuz I'mma run every year. So I don't care if I get 20 this year 2000 next year. I'm being serious. My phone is blowing up. I reached out to you, Miss Jabbor, right? Respectfully, and spoke to you cuz me and my daughter
fighting my blood daughter. I tell y'all this is serious. Even after the election, we all got to live here respectfully. And I'm being honest now. So we all crave and y'all better vote a yes cuz we going we need Mike's picture upstairs. Y'all y'all got to be serious
now. And I'm being very serious. Our city has been horrible the last eight years. And y'all know that. I'mma see who be man or woman enough to admit that. I'mma be at the debate in the front with boxing gloves on. These issues is serious, y'all. I'm not even playing. These issues are very serious.
We cannot get a mayor. We can't even afford it. And the first thing I better see is a reduction in that not to exceed legal fees. That's the first thing I'm looking for the mayor to do. And I'm serious. I'm watching every penny. I want y'all to take this serious cuz
people have still not yet decided what direction is this city going to go in with the next mayor. You guys made it to the runoff. Make us proud. That's all I'm saying. Y'all know I don't care. I don't get disappointed at no election. It ain't about me. It's about the
people. It's about the people. Now, I came home from work today and I'm so upset. And I looked on my block and Mike live in the same ward as me. I said, "When did this take place?" Now, I never miss a meeting. I didn't even know about that plan. But what I do know is for two
weeks straight, we had to move our car at 6:00 and 7:00 in the morning. Y'ALL DON'T EVEN THINK about what we are impacted with as residents. This went on for two weeks. I'm not upset because I know the ADA laws and I shouldn't have to be nobody's friend that's running
that I'm scared they're going to touch my space. Let them. That's why I was so happy when I seen they didn't. Y'all working with me, Mike, so don't even play saying that. I know my rights. That's why I left the committee, too. Tony hit it right on the nose. People was coming to me, well, I'm going to go
tell a mayor, you ain't giving me my spot. Calling down to Trenton, threatening our assemblymen to get a spot. THOSE SPOTS ARE NOT Christmas cookies. I tell y'all all the time, I worked on the county with Patricia Logan
handicap committee and I did what was right. It ain't about what she don't. Yes, I do qualify. I was damn near dead and blessed to be alive from stage three cancer and I have issues impacting that every day of my life. Yeah, I'm tough. I ain't scared of nobody, but I'm scared of
cancer and my fight ain't over. So that's serious. The people that really need it. If y'all not your friend and I'm not your friend and I don't like Mike and I don't like Ruben, I'm not going to get they vote. Let's stop that, too. Let's hope we have a new city council mayor. Mayor and I'm serious.
And it ain't no more about do we got the right amount of votes. That's a horrible thing to do to us as members of the public. We coming to these meetings excited. And y'all know y'all already cut the deal two days ago. Stop doing that. It's a lot that got to be changed and I promised everybody when I tell you
who I'm supporting, please support me. This for everybody that live in Hoboken. I use this public portion tonight to say that. And I'm serious. We This is our city. We pick who our next mayor is. And I'm going to miss you, Mr. Doyle. I'm
being honest cuz you just did a whole third degree turn at the end of your stay. And that's good. So, we got something good to remember you by. But again, guys, this watching this, I did come out like I promised you guys and let y'all know the seriousness. All that cockiness, my way or the highway, they
don't got the vote. We coming at y'all. Accountability. You feel me? And I'm serious. I'll talk in Spanish, whatever language you want me to, but do you feel me? My people understand me. Let's get this city back on track, guys. I will in
closing saying this today to have a union suppressed because an election coming up. I'm embarrassed. I'm embarrassed. The them be them boys be out there cleaning snow, busting their butt, but y'all could sit here and give topheavy raises AND STUFF TO WHY did
y'all do that dur and we got an election coming up in two weeks and did that to that union? I'm not going to say no names because I don't want to cry, but stop doing that. They deserve more than 2%. THEY THE ONE KEEP THIS COMPANY this city going. BUT Y'ALL GO OUTSOURCE SOMEBODY AND GIVE THEM TRIPLE they
salary. We need A INTELLIGENT MAN. STOP that too. Don't go looking for no new directors TO REPLACE MY DIRECTORS. THEY'VE BEEN DOING THE JOB FOR YEARS. Y'ALL GO GET A STRANGER from West Butterfucking bring them here. Excuse me. Y'all go get a stranger from wherever making money for real. I'm serious. When we got directors right
here. So I'm closing with saying that. Think about our union and our employees and most of them got years in in this city. Please stop outsourcing jobs. I'mma be the first one in your office and I'm not playing. Mike, [snorts] >> thank you very much. Miss waiters
Manuel Rivera Solair. [snorts] >> Thank you once again, Cresident. Good evening. Good evening to you all. Good evening members of the public. Mr. President, I would like to start. First of all, I would like to compliment uh corporate council on his uh sharp tie.
Uh tell me later where you got that. Uh also, council president, uh I would like to take a moment again uh to congratulate and welcome, I guess you already did it. I would have preferred to be at the swearing in, but to the six w uh council representative uh Diane
Imos. I hope I said that correct. Um I'll I'll perfect it if it's not it. But uh so welcome to her. We will have a lot of time to uh get to know each other further. I hope members of the public and members of the six board also uh uh endeavor to know you better. Uh uh also,
council president, I would just like to say that um uh I was remiss last meeting. Um I guess I was emotional but um fact of the matter is that um on my unofficial official unofficial duty as the uh
consoler of the council uh again a title that I made up if you anyone wants to make that permanent go right ahead. uh that a member of the public um pardon me, a resident of our city um passed um
uh a week ago and um again I was remissed. I was too emotional. It was a picture of former council uh president uh ameritus in my heart and standing on my left here. So I was remissed but I would like to say that we will miss you
very much. my dearest friend uh went to school with him, Jimmy Monaco. Um Mr. Monaco was an a resident of Hoboken like me, almost born and raised. I believe he was a 44year employee of the board of education.
Always kept the schools tidy and neat regardless of whatever may have tried to take that away from him. No, no one will. I express our hopefully heartfelt sentiments to his family and
all of those he loved. And Council President, I I would also like to say that yes, we have a very important decision to make um pretty soon um December 2nd. I urge, as I always do, my fellow residents, to please take time to
discern your candidates, both for mayor as well as the atlarge council members. These are important positions. We need to take them serious. We need to take the candidates serious. We need to ask them questions and
hopefully get to know them better and choose our leaders accordingly. and I hope we do. Council President, also I would like to say and of course this is what um is always in my heart and I say
it constantly and people ask me why do you keep saying it? Because until victory is obtained until peace for and democracy is restored. uh to all our fellow residents of our sister city
Malito Po in the Ukraine. We say to them, we always will. Slava Ukraine, glory to Ukraine. Hero Slava, glory to the heroes. And council president, it's currently in our sister city in case you
ever want to visit when you retire. Not now. Uh it is approximately 46° Celsius and 35° Fahrenheit in our sister city. So it's a little chilly. So um I just wanted to
throw that in there as a a fun fact because everything cannot be uh >> I got you. But anyway, with that, council president, I will conclude and I will say again as I always do again, congratulations to the sixport council
member and to all of you, council president. God bless you. God bless you all and God bless and thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Solair. >> [clears throat] >> Uh, Linda Ca Capello. Oh,
>> Capiello. >> Capiello. Okay, I'm gonna spell that for it. You don't have to tell us in public, but >> Thank you, mayor. >> I I am aware of that. >> My clock saw it yet. >> Uh, has not started yet because the
clerk is interrupting you. >> [laughter] >> Okay, Jimmy, congratulations to those who won and good luck to the new upcoming mayor. I wish Hoboken well and and you well. So, um Tony had a lot of thoughts that were on my mind that w wasn't even going to
mention, but since he did, I just want to briefly me thank you mention lights. Not what I lights. That's not what I was here about, but I did want to mention it because I'm starting to notice that all over town. Uh actually near near Grant Street um there's like I don't even know
how they do the lights on the sidewalk and I think we have to be conscious of lights because when you're driving and you see this going and they're not going off at a certain time. So I think that is an issue. Not proven yet but early medical data starting to show that people can't sleep. Night pollution may
have a link to early Alzheimer's. Not proven. Don't want to start any rumors but I just think we need to take light seriously. And I think and in in a previous zoning report a few years ago right in Hoboken, it did state that that was an issue already that they thought development should uh start looking at
lighting um just in general for Hoboken. So I just wanted to uh jump on that not what what I was here for. Um the second thing I just want to mention and I I'm not well totally wellversed in this but uh I know you are. Um, I had come and
spoken when you made um the hospital zone a redevelopment zone. I'm aware that 122 Clinton, they came and they did quite a good argument. Everybody voted for it. I didn't agree. I objected. I was probably the only one here. And then they came and made a very good argument
and I was happy that you reversed it. I still think that's a poor decision. I and also not the main reason to be here, but I only mention it because I think I saw in the paper uh recently that um the hospital in Jersey City has laid off
many people and the hospital is closing and what I've learned in my life. Health is everything and you you can't replace a life and we really I just want to urge everyone that this is a really important priority. And I also read in the paper
that um that the city council in Jersey City actually just recently reversed the rules on housing that they had to now go back and make it a medical zone and limit the housing they originally changed the zone for. I I I'm you can't
quote me. It was just a quick one minute look at a paper, but I think it's interesting and I think it's going to be high priority for the new governor. Why am I really here? the Grand Street protected lanes. I think I I I don't agree with them. I tried to get look at
the plans, but I never got my hands on them despite requests. Anyway, um um I obviously the parking is a concern, the aesthetics I also don't these plastic uh items, but to I want to focus on safety
and my concerns. Um first of all, first of all, I don't know who's funding this. Who is funding this product project? Is it the city, the state, the federal government >> on uh grant? >> Okay. That might influence the rules. So
So I'm told um that whoever funds it, we might have different rules. I'm I'm concerned. I don't think you need a shoulder. I'm not an expert, but I'm concerned that there'll be no shoulder that someone could pass if there's an emergency. I'm very conscious of ambulances having to go through, pick
people up, go through. they I think they will be delayed. It doesn't take a lot to to go from a good health outcome to a poor one if someone's having a heart attack in a residence or I don't know if Church has a different exit. Certainly the exit on Grand Street I'd be
concerned with. I could even bring pictures from this week where I saw literally no room. So obviously the project's gone ahead and I walked past it. Um and just a couple of things I want to mention. Um the narrowness is
concerning, the loss of parking is concerning, the aesthetics. It is g going to hurt people, businesses. I'm deeply concerned if ebikes the rules uh because when a lot of the rules were made, there were just bicycles. I just all comes to safety. I don't know if
they will have to stop. I don't know if they can use it. Um so I just want to that was really my main uh point here. um that and um I went by and I did some measurements. I'm not an expert. I just have my tape measure and um I'm
concerned um I'm concerned just looking at what's there right now. It's it looks like it's it's over getting right where it's acme. One of the parking widths is only 7 feet now. I I I literally had like 10 minutes to prepare for tonight,
but I pulled up the DOT uh booklet and I did get through to Hudson County and they say usually you have 9 ft wide for parking for regular parking and 12 feet for handicapped. So, I took some measurements. I'm not not not expert measurements and I don't know who's in
[snorts] charge of this project, but I'm concerned that if you look at the east side, you only have seven feet wide for cars right now where they painted. Give or take a few inches. And if that's supposed to be nine feet now, if you go by tonight and you walk by it, and I
think you should, you'll see the cars are actually they're over the line already into the middle of the street because and I'm not faulting them. They have to park and they have they're hanging over. So, I'm I'm just really concerned and I I so
concerned that I I just think, you know, the city should rethink this and maybe um I don't know if you could even do You got it. Thank you. >> I think it's so serious. I would suggest you consider a stop order on this project immediately. Return the money to
the city and and open this up to the community. right in the beginning in the DOT says community involvement and let the pat let let Rosemary let let people in the community look at what's what's they did so far and give input but
anyway if the city could go down and do measurements and really check this out and think about some of the things I said I'd be glad to um thank you >> thank you very much uh Anthony [snorts] Kuskinsky
I don't know if I wrote it wrong or you said it wrong, but it's Kazakowski. >> Was it close? >> Close enough. Close enough. Close enough. All right. So, last time I was here, I got a little heated. I'm nowhere close to apologizing, but believe me, I want to be as loving as I possibly can.
Let me be clear about something. We've all seen the Terminator. Right now in China, there's a digital AI surveillance program nationwide called Skynet. When you look at autonomous AI and their subsidiary companies, the corporations
that are funding them are funding the things that you've brought into Hoboken. Now, I know we've done this under public safety. Public safety is what tyrants always use as an excuse. Now, there's a great great great email that Rob sent out about his
balabots saying he knows there hasn't been a traffic death in 10 years in Hoboken, but we need to be safer. So, maybe the cameras raise the dead. Is this what we're suggesting at this point? I'm going to give you some statistics that [snorts] business is
down 20%. You care 0%. Fair enough. I'll also give you some very interesting statistics and pay attention to this one. I've spoken to a considerable amount of Hoboken voters. They like myself loved you, Emily. I I was a big Emily person for a while. After this
issue, a 100% of people 100 that's a statistic, right? And you guys love those. 100% of Hoboken voters that found out about Emily backing this now don't want you to be mayor. Here's the thing. We know that politics get messy. I understand when you put your head down
in the pillow at night, you say, "If I sell my soul here, maybe I could do something good here. If I sell my soul here, maybe I could do something good here. I give you those mulligans. That's why you don't see me that much. When you start the process of weaponizing AI against your citizens,
you have cross the line and your children's grandchildren will suffer. Now, I don't know how you can make a statistic about that, but I'm going to give you another statistic. I am 100% committed to making sure these cameras come down. And I'm going to tell
you something. My group in Manhattan has run 5 to 10,000 people rallies. We're just getting started now. You might have seen me on News1 12. You might have seen me name drop you cuz you sold your soul and it's a problem. I wanted you to be in the state assembly.
You're not going to get your soul back on this one. The last time I was here, I spoke of a power that transcends government. That power is the human heart. And when you sell us to Skynet, enjoy taking your bike to your new job.
That's all I got to say, guys. [snorts] >> Thank you, Rosemary Markle. >> Not going to be that long. Patty, you could go. Okay. Um, I just want to say something about the first reading because I won't be here for the next meeting, so I won't
have my opportunity to say anything. I just want to let everyone know that you're going to be raising fees, transaction fees for all things that we must pay through the city via this new company and credit card services. So, you're going to have to pay two fees and I think the public needs to know that.
So, it's a minimum of a $5 transaction for everything. And the second one is a bond for $5 million. And I understand there's a necessity for for bonds. I get it. But it should be for necessities. How much of this bond is going towards
art? Art is not a necessity. It's a want. And I know this was done by an executive order that every bond has 1% that's put towards city art. This should go in front of the the voters. I mean, why are we bonding for art now? We're in a crunch. All you keep doing is raising
our taxes. I don't want to pay tax for art. It's bad enough I pay business tax and I get nothing out of that. I get nothing out of this art. So please, I understand that we have to do bonds and when these bonds come up, how much are we going to have to pay in extra taxes and I just like to thank Tony for saying
about the Ballards Hoboken has lost its charm a long time ago. We're never going to get it back and it's a sad thing to say. Grand Street is an absolute disgrace. It's disgusting. We're going to look like a third world country. And I just spoke to you about a car that's parked there in the spot and he's
hanging over it because it's too wide. They didn't make the width wide enough. When you do that, you're going to cut now the parking, the space for driving. So, good luck to all of us. Thank you. >> Thank you, Miss Markle. Uh, no, no other members of the public or public portion.
>> Public portion. >> Second. >> All those in favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> Uh, if we could, Director uh Gonzalez, could you come up and uh answer Councilman President's question about the bond, which is the
[snorts] >> third item in the introduction of first ordinances. We'll make an exception to the general rule. Uh this is a proposed bond ordinance to effectuate the lead service line replacement program that we had um
authorized I'm sorry the city council had authorized in a prior ordinance a few months ago. I would have to check the date. I apologize on that. Um but so this is for the first trunch of it. We expect that somewhere north of $4 million of this
bond ordinance would go towards that. Um any remaining would be for extra capital funds for the water utility for any overages in what we call our MCAP which is our maintenance and capital improvement fund associated with um uh you know annual repairs and maintenance.
>> So this is for city water lines or for personal water lines. >> Uh it is it is to start the the lead service line replacement program which is personal water lead lines. Um if you recall when you authorized that ordinance it is required by 2031 State law requires
>> State law requires that we replace all those lines by 2031. Sorry, in my head I'm seeing 2032 and now I'm not. >> This is a water utility bond. Then >> it's a water utility or >> paid for by the water utility. >> We're not paying. [snorts] >> Okay. >> Water, >> I think.
>> All right. Thank you. >> Thank you, director, for >> sticking around. >> Um All right. So Jimmy, you want to do the >> the honors? >> Ordinance for introduction, an ordinance amending chapter 192 parking for persons
with disabilities to add a reserve parking to add reserving to reserve parking spaces >> on Adam Street and Third Street and to remove a general parking space on Adam Street.
>> Right. Yeah. I'm just jumping on the bandwagon. >> Mr. Con. >> Hi. >> Fisher. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Imus. >> Yes. >> Mrs. Yabore. >> Yes. >> President Zano. >> Hi. >> Cano. >> Hi. >> Mr. Ram Ramos. >> Mr. Russo.
>> I. >> President Doyle. >> I. >> Ordinance for introduction amending article 16 miscellaneous fees for online transactions. >> Mr. Fina, please call the vote. >> Mr. Con. >> Hi. >> Fisher.
>> Yes. I'm first reading. Yes. >> Mrs. Jabbor, >> yes. >> President Xano, >> yes. First reading. >> Mero. >> I >> Mr. Ramos. >> Hi. >> Mr. Russo. >> No. >> Mr. Russo. >> No. >> President Doyle.
>> I twice. Ordinance for introduction. Bond ordinance authorizing completion of various water system capital improvements including but including public art acquisition installments and capital facility improvements
allocations related to there too in and for the city of Hoboken County of Hudson New Jersey appropriating the sum of $5,50,000 therefore authorizing the issuance of general obligation bond or bond anticipation notes of the city of Bokan
County of Hudson, New Jersey in the aggregate principal amount of up to 5,47,500 making certain determinations and covenants and authorizing certain related related actions in connection with the law going.
>> Thank you, Mr. Fina. Please call the vote. >> Mr. Con, >> hi. >> Fisher, >> yes. >> Mrs. Mrs. Ius, >> yes. >> Mrs. Jabbor, >> yes. President Zano. >> Hi, >> Mr. Cano. >> Hi, >> Mr. Ramos. >> Hi,
>> Mr. Russo. >> Hi, >> President Doyle. I order for introduction on amending chapter 145 peaks and good order section 145-25 images based automated traffic light and
step stop sign enforcement technology prohibited to establish a holiday season moratorum through January 15 on unmanned camerabased parking enforcement. >> Thank you Mr. Fina. Please call the vote.
>> Mr. Con? No >> Fisher. >> Yes, >> Mrs. Zyus. >> Yes, >> Mrs. Jabore. >> No, >> President. >> I >> Mr. Canero. >> No, >> Mr. Ramos. >> Hi, >> Mr. Russo. >> I >> President Doyle. >> No.
>> Ordinance for introduction of city of Hoboken in the county of Hudson state of New Jersey amending supplementing city code chapter 65A entitled affordable housing. >> Mr. Fina, please call the vote. >> Mr. Con, >> I. Miss Fischer.
>> Yes. >> Mr. Zyus. >> Yes. >> Mr. Jabore. >> Yes. >> President Zano. >> Hi. >> Mr. Canero. >> Hi. >> Mr. Ramos. >> Hi. >> Mr. Russo. >> I. >> President Doyle. >> I. >> Ordinance for introduction ordinance amending chapter 190-11 entitled loading
zone to add a loading zone to Jackson Street between Observer Highway and North Street. >> Mr. Pina, please call the vote. >> Mr. Cole. >> Hi. >> Fisher. >> Yes. >> Mrs. >> Yes. Mrs. Jabor, >> yes. >> President Jano, >> hi. >> Mr. Cano,
>> I >> Mr. Ramos, >> hi. >> Mr. Russo, >> I >> President, >> I. >> New business, >> Councilman Ramos. >> Yeah. Uh, do we have the time frame for
when uh Crims will be reinstated as the fire chief? >> Actually, this we should go into close session. >> Yeah, I was going to ask they want to go to close session about it, but whatever. That's That's fine. Motion to go into close session. >> Second.
>> All right. I'll call the vote. Motion to go into close session. Mr. Fina. [clears throat] >> Yeah. >> Well, we're going to vote whether we're going to go in. >> Mr. Con? >> No. >> Excuse me. >> No. >> M. Fisher.
>> Yes. >> Mrs. I >> Yes. >> Mrs. Mr. Jabore. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> I'm sorry. >> President Xano. >> Hi. >> Mr. Canero. >> Hi, >> Mr. Ramos. >> Hi, >> Mr. Russo.
>> Hi, >> President Doyle. >> No, >> but it passes. >> Going in the close session. >> I get one. >> Thank you everyone. Or if you >> if you if we could clear the room the
meeting and Go back online. >> All right. >> Motion to close. >> Second. >> Second. >> All I >> Nope. We're done. [snorts] >> You've never had a
>> Yeah. No, no, no, but I would be present. I hate him anyway. >> He's arroant. >> When he took that safety, he was a dead.