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Part 1 (Video ID: uiyQC1zf1BI):
- 00:00:11: Meeting Start, Roll Call, Agenda, and Proclamation
- 00:03:50: Claims, Payroll Discussion, Overtime, and Resignations
- 00:07:18: Consent Agenda, Hoboken Business Alliance Budget Presentation
- 00:08:56: Newman Leather Site, Dispensary Agreements, Noise Waiver
- 00:12:36: Contract Increases with Law Firms and Budget Tracking
- 00:16:56: MSB Garage, Corporation Council Litigation Settlement Discussion
- 00:19:33: City Clerk Items, Minutes, Budget Amendments, and Tenant Protection
- 00:24:48: Budget Framework Resolution, Tax Burden Reduction Efforts
- 00:27:47: Finance Department Temporary Appropriations Through June
- 00:28:34: Infrastructure, Resiliency Park, PSG Upgrades, Washington Street
- 00:34:40: Tax Collector Refunds, Ordinance First Readings, Hemp Laws
- 00:38:28: Manufacturing Operations, Zoning Revisions, and Cannabis
- 00:44:34: Redevelopment Plans, Cannabis and Hemp Ordinance Separation
- 00:48:50: North End Plan Amendments, Southwest Redevelopment Plan
- 00:50:31: New Business Items, World Cup Grant, Event Planning


Part: 1

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See, we have one, two, >> put the agenda, Gary, please. >> Yep, you got it. You got it, council president. And I can do a roll call in an open public meetings act and we will start off with that. Okay folks.

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>> Yep. Yep. >> I would like to advise all those present that notice of this meeting has provided to the public in accordance with the provisions of the open public meetings act and that notice was published in the city website. Copies provided in the burning record and also placed on the bulletin board and lobby of city hall.

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Written objections should be made to city clerk. All rise for the pledge and allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States United States of America of America and to theublic to the republic for which it stands for which it stands one nation

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under God under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all. >> Okay, roll call. One second. Councilman Cohen here. >> Councilman Firestone here. Councilman

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Fischer >> here. >> Councilwoman Immus >> here. >> Counciloman Le >> here. >> Councilman Pranzano >> present. >> Councilman Cano >> present. >> Councilman Russo

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>> present. >> And Council President Ramos >> present. Orman present. Ready to begin. >> Okay, we have full session. Correct. first. >> That's correct.

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>> Okay. So, close session. All Saints going to be presenting uh also. So, we'll do that at 6:30. So, doesn't interfere with our regular meeting. We will be having a proclamation for an individual. It's a surprise

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as well when we start our meeting. >> Thank you. We have our budget items. I don't think we have amendments we're working on still. I don't think we're going to call a final vote on that yet, but we're stepping in the right direction

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and we'll have a public hearing obviously, right, Joe? We have to have a public hearing no matter >> that's correct. Yep. We have the resolution just to authorize the budget to be read by title and then the public hearing. That's correct. >> Correct. If you have

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second reading ordinances versus the Sucker River, uh the the tunnel activity up 16th Street, disabilities, parking spots. >> Ordinance three. Any questions? loading zones and ordinance four is by being carried.

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>> Oh, being carried. Okay, good. >> Yep. Being carried. It has to be heard by the planning board. Now we have our public portion communications. I don't know if anyone's showing up in the volunteer ambulance core. Is someone showing up, Jerry, for that or no? I think they gave it this

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weekend. Correct. >> Yeah, it was this weekend. I think they gave >> this weekend, right? >> That's correct. That's correct. >> Any questions on claims or payrolls? is the overtime pay um for this period is is relatively low, but is there like a running tally of where we're at for

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the year that we could pull up? >> Not that I can pull up here, but we can provide that information. >> Yeah. I mean, it would be great to see like, you know, if your overall budget is X, right, >> and for your payroll, this is where we're at year to date, and this is where

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we're at with overtime year to date, as well as the overtime, the other pay. Um, and could you differentiate in this pay period why the other pay period, the other pay seems to be higher than in others? Um

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there are a few stipens um in like contractual stipens in uh the police division. There's also some workers comp um payments and there are um two employees who've resigned to there's

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vacation payments for >> Okay. And then >> oh we had two resignations. Yeah, I believe >> what were the positions, director? >> Um, let's see. There's a vacation pay in

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the um I know there's one in the parking utility and I and there's um a mechanic in fleet maintenance. >> Okay. >> There's a a PEO in the parking. >> Um I think I would def defer to Director Sharp if you'd like to discuss that

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employees position. And I believe it was >> I just want to know what the position was, not necessarily the the employee. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I I don't know the title off the top of my head. That's why I defer to him. >> Yep. Can you guys hear me? >> Yep. >> Yep. It was a PEO. Yes.

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>> Okay. >> Councilwoman Imus. And then you got the OEP. It's like 196,000. So that's where the the bulk of that number comes from. and and the uh and most of the overtime

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varies from kind of 85 to 115 is like an average for you to look at. I mean, I look at it like a Hulk every week. So, that's kind of a range. And then when we have a big event like July 4th, I imagine, or you know, maybe it'll be a little bit higher from the spring the arts festival, you'll see it get a

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little bump on that. And it won't just come from one particular um division. It'll come from several just cuz like sanitation, police, you know, first aid, that kind of thing. So you can watch that as it's kind of a steady trend of about 100K roughly uh that I've seen

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here. But then you have your blips here and there that that make it for big events. >> All righty. Anyone questions on payroll? >> Just the uh director, can you can you give us the the stipens that are still

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being paid? Could you uh separately send to us what con what contracts those are in and and what's not contractual? >> Sure. >> Yeah, I appreciate it. >> Yeah. Let's go to consent agenda

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resolutions administration. Scroll up, Jerry, please. is the Hobok of business alliance their budget presentation >> on that is that if that's showing flat where are we with that

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>> I think it's lowered is my understanding I can't zon >> it's yeah it's about $750,000 correct me if I'm wrong it's about $750,000 less >> the SID tax to certain individuals will

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drop 20% in certain parts of the city. Uh they've changed their model to go from a little bit of outsourcing of employment versus in-house. So that is a a massive savings that will be put towards resources to help better the business district which was a much

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needed thing to be done. Um and it was really streamlining of overhead. Uh and so that'll leave allow for more help in the community. >> Yep. I think a lot of that was getting bringing things inhouse, get rid of employees. Uh, and that lowered the

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healthare costs as well. Uh, A2, >> any questions on A2? >> Okay. Uh, CD1. This is in the Newman leather uh site for CD1. >> That is the sixth one, correct?

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>> Yes. >> Yes, it is the sixth and final one. >> Are there just attachments to it? um just describing like their business and uh environmental impact on this

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and and it went through the CRB already, right? >> It went Yeah, this went through the CRB and I believe the um city council approved No, I believe the city council approved >> the community host agreement. So, what I could do is we can we can amend we can

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attach the community host agreement to uh to this resolution. that that would be great. And also whatever their environmental whatever their proposal was to the um the CRB just so we can read it and understand

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it. >> Director, if you don't mind, could you send all the host agreements just so we have them so the council has them so we could refer back to them when needed? >> I got you. >> And just just for clarity, isn't this

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just the last administrative piece? We've we voted on this substantively. this >> but just making sure that everything has been checked off and and and kind of the representation to the state that hey everything that was supposed to happen here locally has happened here locally. >> That is accurate. Yeah, that's this is

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the last step in the state licensing process. >> Sure. However, nothing's ever been presented to us on this dispensary. So, the best way to do that is just to throw the work they've already done into a so we can all just look at it and

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confidently support it. Okay, >> sure. >> We can do that. >> Thank you. >> Some noise wave ordinance for 13th Street 1350 Willow.

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>> What? What? Um >> that's internal work, right, director? >> Yes, only internal work. >> Sorry. Yeah, sir. I was writing I was I was jotting down the notes from the last uh from the last uh from the last last point. Yes, that's all internal all internal work. Um so the scope of work

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is as follows. Cosmetic upgrades to the existing bathroom, construction of a new bathroom within the store's current stock room, new check stands, cosmetic upgrades to the store's break room, and replacement of five stores of five of the frozen refrigerator cases in the

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store. The reason why they require a noise ordinance, a noise, a waiver of the noise ordinance is because they will be using um power tools while um doing some of this work. So that triggers uh the the the waiver. They're also below a

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residential building. >> So this is it's Trader Joe's. >> This is Trader Joe Yeah, this is Trader Joe's. This is Trader Joe's, >> correct? And they they're doing it at night because they don't want to disrupt daytime operations. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Has just just as I mean has anyone let

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advance know like I don't know what's directly above um if they're using power tools and there's residents I don't I can't envision exactly what's directly above Trader Joe's like if there's apartments but have we notified advance in the management of this? Yeah, I

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believe the construction official is required that the uh that Trader Joe's notify the uh the management company and the tenants above it. >> Yeah, the the tenants are right upstairs right above it. >> Yeah. Okay.

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>> CD3. Press on that. And then uh CD4 on CD5 and CD6. >> So, can I ask a question? Um, council,

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>> so I see we're we're adding all these additional um you know uh contract increases with these uh the law firm. That's great. How are are we in a situation where we can, you know, determine whether we're tracking to plan

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with uh how much spend against the the line item for that in the budget? >> So, so Councilman I Councilman I think your question is um are we do do we have a do we have an idea of the overall

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>> Yeah. Yeah. Like so we have you know whatever the amount is attracting to the budget >> right in the budget and we're now in you know May so are we like as we increase these are any of them going above and beyond what you would have forecasted

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for the year the total year spent. >> Uh the quick answer is no. >> Okay. >> All right. But is that something that would be hard to provide? because I feel like sometimes we go through these and we're like, "Oh, let's just increase this one and this one and this one." >> Uh, and they're always grouped together,

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so it should be easy to sort of put that out there ahead of time for for transparency. >> So, Jerry, if you scroll up a bit, um, I could I could give you a quick synopsis. Uh, so CD4 CD4 is for um environmental

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work for 11 specific to 11th and Willow. Last year um there was a there was some environmental issues on the site uh which had to be addressed. We so we we brought on Joanne Boss our our special counsel for mayor city Falcon. So that's so CD4 covers 20 2025 an outstanding

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2025 contract. Uh CD5 >> but wait Chris go back. So the the 2025 so that's not in the 2026 budget. It's a 2025 funded contract. So like that that's something that would be helpful to just add there because then we're not asking questions.

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>> I did. I know I did. It says um amending the calendar year 2025 contract. >> Got it. >> Yeah. No, that's a so and then resolution amending the contract with Weiner Law Group. So generally speaking um there's the affordable housing compliance mandate uh per state statute.

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Uh I don't foresee the contract growing much more because a lot of the work that would had to be done specific to um some of the some of the affordable housing compliance work uh the housing element um uh affordability

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affordability assistance program that's all kind of tied in with those invoices. There are deeds which there are um upcoming deed restrictions which are tied to new buildings that our attorney is going to have to review. So there might be a little bit more work, but I think generally we're speaking within

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the ballpark. Um 2025 calendar year, Mary Z Falcon for pilots and tax abatement work. So this is a contract that's really pretty much funded out of finance, but it's on CD it's on the community development um section of the agenda u just because of the

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interrelated nature of pilots. But generally speaking, this be this covers outstanding invoices from 2025. Same thing with 2027 uh oh sorry it's 2027 CD7 uh Mars E Falcon 15,000 for legal

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council um for W development that that spec that's that that goes into some of the uh redevelopment work um from 2025 specific to Hudson Place and um some of the other out some specific

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to Hudson Place I believe um and and uh and and things of that nature. CD8 MSB um is also so that's also that's I believe that that's outstanding from

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GarageB. Oh no, that's Nope. That's that's 2026. Sorry, I was thinking about 2025. Uh that's just an increase from CD8 is an increase for the 2026 contract and that has to deal with just

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outstanding invoices for this year but again that's for non-escrow work. Um so most of our work is funded by escro escrow related projects. So I don't foresee that contract going u uh far beyond that. So, we're I think

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we're about $20,000 CDA for MSV for 2026. >> Does that help? >> Yes. Thank you. >> Welcome. Corporation Council is next. >> Sorry, Jerry. Yes, I'm sorry. I'll show

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it to myself. >> No worries. >> He's got you. Ruby's got you. >> I appreciate it. You know, I'm still very excited, Jerry. >> All good. All good. >> What is What is the matter? the what is

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that litigation that we're settling? >> Can you guys actually hear me? Okay. >> Yes, we can. >> You don't have to go into the detail, I think, of the settlement. Are we allowed to talk about it? But if not, at least just what the litigation is. >> Councilwoman, I apologize. I couldn't

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hear you very well. No, we can't. I heard gist of it. We can't talk about it. It's what we're going to be talking about in closed session to make sure we have the attorneys to go through it um more fully in terms of what we're going to be discussing. >> Okay. >> Could uh can we know if it's just an uh like an internal matter or is it an

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outside entity versus the city? >> So, sorry Arlene, just to just to clarify, this one's um this one is a second matter. Um there are actually two um for closed session. Um this is a a torque clean um regarding uh pavement

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conditions on Hudson Place. >> Gotcha. Okay. Yep. >> Sorry, just to clarify. Um we can discuss further in close session of course. Um >> okay. Items for the city clerk. We have

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uh minutes of the meeting. A royal printing that's for election items mostly. So on CL3, the only thing I'll add on that is that it did not um our intention

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was just to add in a brief statement to uh ahead of public comments and it turns out that the the background information needs to be updated as well. So that's why it's getting carried. >> Correct. >> Is is the statement going to be ahead of

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public comments or just at the beginning of the meeting? I I don't think we've discussed where that's going to be said, but I believe uh >> like the board the board the board of ed opens their meeting and reads a much

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longer statement right out of the gate to kind of just set the parameters for the meeting. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And sort of redefine, you know, the timing, right? Because Councilwoman Leon pointed out that if you're commenting on numerous um >> Yeah. Seven minutes. >> Yeah. Consent, right? consent agenda,

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you get seven. So, so sometimes it's just not clear. And then we wanted to establish just just a little bit more of a um a a measured and respectful dialogue. >> So, I guess we could read at the beginning. Well, you could have the clerk read it.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. >> So, that'll get carried till next. >> Yep. Perfect. The amendments to the budget CL4. >> Yeah. We are going to have something, I promise. And and we're not intentionally

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withholding. We are trying to we're not we we had I had multiple conversations, lengthy conversations with the administration, some other council members this afternoon, Diane and I, um with several people um and I was away

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for the last three days. So, we are we will have something in tomorrow. Um, but just really just trying to work with people to get to, you know, a place where everyone's kind of compromising a little, but we have a

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defensible budget that will have at least five votes. And, um, you know, taking in consideration the ratings concerns people have, taking into consideration the tax concerns, and then the operational and service concerns, you know, reduction services. So, just

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trying to kind of triangulate around that. We have a little more work to do. I'm hoping I'll have something um to just circulate either late tonight or first thing tomorrow morning. >> Yep. Thank you, Councilman. Appreciate you. >> Uh CL

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5, >> can we have background on CL5, please? >> Yeah. Um this is a bill that has passed through. It's been referred to the Assembly Judiciary Committee uh which

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would say that it would be illegal for landlords to put in clauses in leases that would prohibit class actions uh when there are commonly situated tenants in a building. So this is something that

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uh you know when when you have it the the case in point that's brought this is some of you may have heard of the Kevin Wellers come in front of the city council before from Portide Towers in Jersey City. Yeah. They have two two 250 unit buildings. uh they have a class

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action going against that building and for new tenants they're now requiring them to sign these I would call them adhesion contracts and leases where they're like if you want to live here you got to give away your right to have a class action. So uh this is uh it's

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something to protect tenants and this is just relating to rent control issues. It's not just general. So specifically, uh, if you've got a building where there's a situation on rent control, uh, it would be we we would and and this is essentially a spirit resolution, but it

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would be encouraging the legislature to uh approve this bill and make it into law and have Governor Cheryl sign it to protect tenants. >> Council, can you send me to a place where I can read that? Uh, I'm sorry.

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>> I believe >> I believe there's a link to it in the in the cellar. >> Yeah, >> in the cellar. So, you could actually you could actually read. >> Okay, that's what I was looking for that. Maybe it's just maybe on my phone I didn't see the color of a link. So, maybe

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>> But if not, I'll send I'll send you a link to it, Paul. But I'm I I do believe it's it's linked in a cell because >> I I looked I looked at it on my phone and sometimes the links don't pop up. It just looks like an underline. So maybe maybe it's from that. I'll look at it on my computer.

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>> I'll text it to you and and uh Jerry is similar. I'm sorry. >> I would just say Jerry if it's not in a cell it should be. So uh I would just you know it should be in there because I provided the link to the corporation council. So

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>> council president on CL6. Um >> yeah, >> first and foremost, I I I want to thank you for um for letting us know exactly how this is, you know, you wanted this done. Uh getting this over to the administration um and to the clerk's

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office as a framework. Um reached out for uh Director Gonzalez. Um and again, director, I hope mom's doing well. Um, but I'm looking forward to sitting down along with Councilman Presenzano to really go through a lot of what this

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framework looks like and to establish a real amendment for the budget. Uh, Paul and I had the opportunity to sit with Diane and Tiffany earlier today, uh, go over some of what we anticipate,

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uh, that conversation will look like. So, we're we're work despite what the some of the comments from the administration and others. Um, we're trying to stay above the noise here and we're trying to really make sure we're working to achieve the overall goal of

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lowering the tax burden on our residents. Um, I'm really looking forward to that conversation, director. Okay. >> Uh, there's a lot of, you know, there's a lot of whatifs in in that conversation. So, it's uh it's probably going to be a longer longer meeting than

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just a couple of back and forths. So, I'm looking forward to it. I know Paul's looking forward to it and we're going to incorporate whatever we can into an overall amendment so that we're not having multiple amendments on the agenda for uh for when we need to uh vote on

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budget. >> Yeah. So, there so this resolution just for everyone is similar to the resolution we had last council meeting. >> Correct. >> Uh supporting a framework of what can be discussed over the next couple of weeks. Uh I'm going to keep on working uh to

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the to to that goal, right? Get the get get the lower number as low as possible, >> maintaining services uh and deliver and delivering a good product for for the residents of Hoboken. So we're going to continue those conversations. That's this resolution. There's no numbers attached to it yet. Just saying, hey, we're working towards these various

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areas and uh hopefully we move in a in a good direction for everyone. >> Yes, that's exactly right. and and and like I said, council president, despite uh some people jumping out and and trying to frame this a certain way, uh we're going to we're going to stay above that fray. We're really trying to

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achieve something here that I think will benefit our residents. >> Um I would uh I would hope that my colleagues in the administration would do the same. >> Yep. And listen, we're not all going to going to agree, but there's good things and bad things. we going to have the

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conversation about them and hopefully we we'll incorporate the things that everyone feels comfortable with and we're going to move forward best we can. >> I appreciate it. >> Thank you. >> All right, let's go to uh uh finance department

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and temporary appropriations. Correct. >> This is for >> until a formal budget is adopted. We are going how long for this? We are going for >> June. >> I'm sorry. Well, I missed your comment.

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>> Just it's going to I know sometimes we do three. Sometimes we do one, sometimes we do. So, I'm just asking what I've I was >> I think it's just >> I just can't remember off the top of my head. >> June, I believe. Correct. >> Yes. This is one month through June. >> Okay. Okay. That's what I thought. I just wanted to make sure.

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>> Yeah. This we're hoping. Listen, like like going back to the last one, we'll hope we have significant conversations over the next two weeks and we're we're looking to final adoption at the next at the first June meeting, definitely the second one in June.

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So, the pedal to the metal. Okay. uh infrastructure. Any questions on I1? Uh any questions on I2? This is the resiliency park. >> Can

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this one What else are we doing? Is this for turning on the uh I mean it's just this is it sounds like you dot eyes cross te's. Is that correct on this? >> This is 800 >> the last piece. >> It's 800 Monroe. >> Yeah.

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>> It's not Oh, it's not Northwest. Okay. >> No, no, it's 800 Monroe. >> This is the new Okay. >> Yep. >> Uh I3 PSG upgrades. So, this is question on this.

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>> Yeah, Director R.J., I know we went back and forth and I was kind of like, okay, I thought it was just a day or two. Now, quick question. Um, they're supposed to be starting today. So, how are we approving something to start today that we're going to vote on Wednesday potentially. So, maybe you could help me

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understand that. >> Yeah. No, I had this same question this morning. they they actually reached out and cancelled uh for tonight and they canled the rest of the week as well because they don't have this noise waiver approved. So, at earliest it would be next Tuesday after Memorial

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Day. >> Okay. And correct me if I'm wrong, this will be kind of more on Washington Street because of the new building going there. Is that correct? It's not going to be kind of down at the towards Hudson. It's going to be more towards Washington. Is that correct? >> Yeah. The building's at the intersection

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of Third and Washington. There's some work on Washington between third and fourth and then there's also some work on third street between Washington and Hudson. But you're right, it'll be closer to Washington than Hudson. >> So I'm really only dealing with one or two buildings on my side essentially. So

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where I fitch and the people in the alleyway maybe and and on the >> right at Court Street. Is that correct? Just I just want to make sure I'm in the same location so I can talk to residents. Okay, >> that's exactly the area. Yeah. >> And is it heavy? It's heavy equipment.

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Jack hammering. And what am I what am I gonna say? >> I mean, it's going to be jackhammering, uh, concrete saw cutting. They're going to be installing, uh, transformer vaults, and then basically trenching, uh, new electrical conduit lines to the new building, um, from the new vaults

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installed within the roadway. So, there will be heavy construction. >> Lovely. and any so on the side street third and uh between Washington and Hudson that gets

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closed down regularly for 300 is there does this work have to be done in tandem to each other the stuff on Washington or can they name Washington and some >> uh I don't know if it was just my I don't know if it was just my connection but you cut out there for the beginning >> part you you froze on Paul for a second.

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>> Oh, sorry. Uh I got to pay my uh got to pay my internet bill. >> Yeah, that's that's why I'm >> No. Um is there a chance cuz that street gets closed down a lot because they use the cranes and the the uh uh cement trucks. Is there any way that some of

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this can be done during the day? I mean because they close that down like it seems like every other day to do stuff for 300 or is this all has to be nighttime work? So, the reason it's over it's, you know, proposed to be overnight is for the Washington Street closure portion of it. Um, not necessarily the third street

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portion. Uh, we can certainly go back to them and and tell them to complete a portion of the work on Third Street. Um, it would be a question for their construction team on the logistics um of how that would play out. Uh, I it's not a city project, so I don't have real insights into that, but we can certainly

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go back to them and say narrow it to only work within Washington Street overnight. Sure. And how many nights is I was just trying. Sorry. >> It's five. I apologize. >> It's five, right? >> No, no, it's five. It's Yeah, it's a big one. >> It's two weeks. It's two full Monday

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through Friday. So, it's effectively 12, you know, uh >> 12 days. 12 nights. >> 12. Yeah. 12 work days. Yeah. >> So, yeah, R.J., after I read it further, like I I was looking over before and I reached out to you and we we went back and forth. I thought it was just kind of like a one or two night and then I looked at the actual dates and I'm like,

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"Oh, god." But >> yeah. So I wanted to reach out and make sure you understood. >> Yeah. I and I talked to PSCG on another issue and we had a conversation said yes, I think that's doable. But then I didn't realize it was two weeks. My I would really like to see if we can do something because I have more residents sitting between Washington and Hudson

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that if there's a way that they could do that during the day and then roll it into the night on Washington Street because Washington Street's a little different animal. Um unless this is one of those things where they have, you know, run wires underground and it's easier to keep both open. I would like to only because that

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is a hot spot with the current construction with the residents in the area um for street closures for all the other fun stuff that goes with it. Uh and nighttime uh there's many people on that street that work six days a week

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and you know nighttime for them is kind of their few hours of solace that they can enjoy. So I not that tempers are flaring. However, the residents do they've gone through a lot. How's that? >> Yeah, understood. I'll definitely bring

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that back to them and I'll I'll talk to you sometime tomorrow with what they come back with. >> Awesome. Thanks, R.J. >> No problem. >> Thank you, guys. All right. Tax collector. That's refund. Refunds. We've seen that every council meeting. Ordinances for

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first reading. I think we have four of them. All right. Um, council president. >> Yeah. >> On number on number three, I I've met uh and I've talked with the mayor about this. Uh, I think it would

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be prudent and I don't know how many people because this is community development north, I think, discussed this. I would I don't know if we can somehow get a meeting beforehand, but I think yes, I know we can say in first read and we approve it in the next two weeks, we talk about it. However, we

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have a habit of not doing that or or not getting enough. I think this is very important to understand. Uh I surely didn't understand that new hemp and THC laws until after I sat down with one of the individuals that's massively impact one of the businesses that are massively impacted by this. I I feel it would be

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beneficial and I don't know if we can do it in before the next council, you know, the next council meeting before we vote on it or we do it four and four. But I think there's a lot to understand here with this new law that because

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it's there's a fine line here with cannabis and and hemp and THC and all these other fun stuff goes with it. I got a massive education on this. >> I think that it would be beneficial for everybody else to know and just not just say yes to this without understanding

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why it's happening. Uh because this was passed at the state level. This is us adopting essentially new laws in town because this is brand new. But I I really would I would encourage that somehow we educate the council before they put their name yes to this just to

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understand exactly what's going on because it is detailed. >> Okay, sounds good. >> Is uh I mean can can someone just touch on you know I just read the very long title and so for example it has consumption area endorsement. We've

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prohibited consumption area. So like what what is the material changes that are being proposed in this? This looks like it's a lot of changes not just with hemp but actually to our canvas laws.

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>> Yeah, it's a Can you can you hear me? Yes, we can. Uh so there's a it's a really thorough um detailed amendment and so our cannabis attorney cannabis attorney will be writing a memo uh kind

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of explaining everything in detail and um she hopefully will be attending on Wednesday and if not on second reading. Uh but there is a number seven whereas clause in the ordinance that uh was that I think

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really summarizes is a step in the direction of summarizing the the changes. Um, I don't know if you want me to do a re read out loud, but it's uh, you know, correct and conform CRB. Um, streamlining streamlining the application review

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process, establishing uniform 90-day deadlines for scheduling and issuing endorsements, adjusting retail license application fees, clarifying the process for negotiating community host agreements and um, and strengthening oversight. clarify and expanding

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procedures for collective for collection reporting and remittance of transfer tax and uh other fees and also uh in penalties and enforcement relocating clarifying enforcement provisions to provide for consistent procedures

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administered by the zoning officer and other city staff. preventing class 2 cannabis manufacturer operations as a conditional use in I1 I2 um subject to applicable CRB endorsements >> pre preventing

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>> permitting permitting uh class 2 cannabis manufacturer operations as a conditional use in the I1 and I2 >> and why why are we doing that what's prompting that >> uh I believe that there's a potential

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opportunity for a manufacturing area in one of the industrial districts. So, it's allowing uh zoning to or it's um revising the zoning to to to possibly accommodate that use.

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>> So, we're changing So, so for clarity, we're changing a law because a tenant wants to come in and we're not considering like the location. Is it in the base of a residential building? Like we're just going to change the law to allow >> Well, actually, it's in an I1 industrial zone.

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>> Yeah, sure. So, it's >> we have I zones that are filled with residential. >> Well, this one isn't, but but >> So, we're so we're changing we're changing the law to accommodate a potential tenant on a topic that we had

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tried to have public conversation over the years, but we're just going to change law to accommodate a tenant. Well, this is first reading, council warning, but it is it is allow for additional sales that would happen that would generate additional revenues uh in

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a facility that can accommodate it if it can. So, and it's not just for one, could potentially be more than one. >> And what is the Chris? What is the rest of the list? Because there's like consumption lounges, etc. And I and because we already have because we

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already have six approved, I don't even know why we need to make any changes to permissions and the process to get them approved because we can't actually consider anything. >> I think you you asked me. So the other item is incorporating the requirements

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of the intoxicating of a hemp law into the city's uh cannabis regulatory framework. um restricting the sale of hemp derived products >> within the city exclusively to CRC licensed

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CRC CRC authorized businesses. So that's the you asked you asked what was the what was the rest of the list. So that >> so nothing to do with even though it says um consumption

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in the title there's nothing to do with consumption areas. I think that might I mean I don't that might be just maybe the se title of that might just be the name of the section that it is under but I can cl I can uh

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it would be a lot for me to kind of go through and look through the entire >> Can you can you get that memo please to everyone please? >> We will as soon as possible. >> Of course. Thank you. >> Yeah. Can can I council president I just have another question because >> Yep.

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Hence why I asked for all the information. The way this was the mayor and I discussed this. Um it was a hemp ordinance, >> right? >> I I was confused because I was like, "All right, I'll just look at this first

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reading. It's the hemp ordinance. It's this." And then as I did a I do my due diligence tonight after the caucus and I read deeper into these things. uh if there's a bigger discussion here I I mean this isn't something I mean we had enough I don't know what's the right

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word we had enough uh community conversation about certain things if we're changing our cannabis laws I want those separate from a hemp law like I don't think they should be co-mingled between the two if the hemp thing I understand there's a timeline because the state has get has granted an

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extension so if we're looking to do manufacturing which again I'm open to listen to things. I just want to understand like I don't want to conflate the two. Hemp is totally different and a new set of ordinances and yes it might fall under RCB but that's totally

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different than if we're you know I'm just looking this consumption area application review and endorsement on cannabis consumption area endorsements like are we doing something or is the administration doing something or the CRB doing something? Like that's a whole different conversation than the hemp

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conversation that I was led to believe that this was only pertaining to. So on my thought process here either we just hold this I mean we can vote on first reading but this is a lot to digest very quickly and the fact that we don't even

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have a discussion on it. Uh, I'm okay if it's hemp on one side and it's the cannabis stuff on the other for production, but I don't think we put the two together. >> We just break it into two or >> Yeah. Let me ask a couple questions. We may we may have to >> we may have to hold off on this one for

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this being Chris. We separate it out so everyone has a little more clarification. >> And just sorry, >> sorry about the violin in the background. Um, look, I think everybody's right here, right? So, if there's a time-sensitive thing, then if we can break it out, let's break it out.

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We don't need to go through like, let's get the memo together, explain what this is doing, what it's not doing, so we can all go in cleareyed and if we want to support something, we can support it. No one's going to feel like they were bamboozled or hoodwinkedked or all the the terms. Um, let's talk about what

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manufacturing means, what it doesn't mean, right? right? Cuz you say manufacturing, we sound it sounds like there's a big factory, you know, turnurning out, you know, THC pills or whatever, but you know what what what's it mean? So, let's be real clear uh in the memo. So, we all go in in

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understanding what we're going to vote on and and what the implications of it are. >> Yeah. So, if we have a separate us out, let's let's make that happen. >> Exactly. Be great. So if we're uh so amended the the north

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end redevelopment plan is also a part of the uh first reading ordinance number three. So if we're going to hold on first reading ordinance number three >> hold off on that too. >> Yeah that's fine. >> Thank you.

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an ordinance >> the hemp council president Ramos I do want to make sure the hemp thing I think is important that we need to address because there is a time frame that >> no that's what we're going to try to separate out I think everyone's everyone understands that portion of it I think

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we all do >> but I think the other portions we need more clarity >> right and so so we're going to try to se we're going to try and separate those two out >> for us uh that's the goal correct >> and what is what's the relationship between four and three.

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>> Well, so the the north so uh the north end is the superseding zoning for the I1. So just by amending the I1 it doesn't necessarily it doesn't affect the

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zoning. You have to actually amend the north end plan. North End plan is is I say superseding, but it adopts the I1 district zoning as of the date that the plan was adopted as a as an exhibit. So, you actually have to amend the exhibit

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in the plan to amend the the I tried to make that as less uh complicated as possible. If you want me to go into more detail, I can. >> No, it was complicated. It's okay. Lucky

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look lucky with nine smart people. I figured it out. >> If if we happen to know the location that's being targeted, can't we just amend the plan and allow for like this use in a block within a plan? >> So

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there's there's different sub areas. Um you could adopt it as a sub area within one of the sub areas. So let's say that's within the info district. Um that is it. We could do that. Yes, we

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could we could amend it as as as the zoning of the of these of the sub area. Um but again, that's not the I1. So like if you're if this if chapter 196 the thing is 196 refers to industrial zones. I mean we could we'd have to amend

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chapter 196 to say to not say industrial zones but say and the north end redevelopment plan. Um the cleaner thing I think would be and we could we could disagree or to tell if this true but I think the cleaner thing is amending the industrial districts and then amending

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the eye district within the plan. I so I think understanding what as as Joe said what this actually looks like and being more thoughtful about what we're mixing with residential development and maybe

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to Phil's point that this is maybe this specific location that's being contemplated today is not mixing you know manufacturing cannabis with residential then but but giving some sort of blanket

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approval that results in residential combined with cannabis manufacturing doesn't seem like that's what we want to do. So maybe we should be more thoughtful

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about just making it a subdist or a very specific building and within our redevelopment area to accommodate this one-time thing. And if we need to be more general like if suddenly Hoboken is the manufacturing capital of New Jersey like then we could you know broach a

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broader you know a broader zoning change later on that would be my thoughts that it's the right track. >> Okay >> or better track.

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>> Yeah let's let me um I think it's it's doable. We just got to figure out how to write it in some in uh in 1963. So 196331 would have to refer to the north end plan. We can figure it out.

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>> All right. Thank you, Chris. >> Yep. And the >> Thank you. >> Uh item number five is amending the southwest redevelopment plan. This is nine Patterson is currently five stories. We're taking half of the fifth story. So, it's not going to be a full

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five story and moving that half of it, the fifth story on top of making a sixth story, but only for the west side of the building. So, it'll be half the fifth floor and half the sixth floor. >> Not not the three floors.

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>> Council President, this this this afternoon, we we we took an additional step with the built with that amendment. Um we incorporated we we added in stepbacks on the fifth and sixth floor because the proposal is that uh instead of having a fifth floor that's at um I

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say 100% of the building >> it's not it's not that >> yeah the the fifth floor will be will be set back uh I think about 44 feet and then or 50 to 40 yeah 44 40 something feet and then the sixth floor will be set back even more. So, it's the same

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square footage. It's the same amount of units. That's the only uh >> same amount of units, but I believe there's a little bit more square footage in the building allowing for um just allowing for the building to work, >> right? Uh any questions on that? And I believe

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that's it. Then we have the item referring to the planning board. Oh, we do have we are we are going to have new business items. Director Gonzalez, you want to get into those? We discussed those earlier today.

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>> Sure. U just this is just a world cup issue with the grant that we received from the state. >> Yes. Uh so the New Jersey EDA um put out a solicitation of uh for for grant funding to offset um municipal expenses

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for the World Cup. Um and we applied, we were successful. Uh EDA sent us a grant agreement on Friday and asked for it to be signed today which we said we cannot do unless we have city council approval. Uh so we are requesting to add that as

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an item of new business. Um and we will uh I believe it's actually already been added in so you can see the the grant agreement already. Um >> and so >> any questions? >> Uh Director Gonzalez, I do have one. Um

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what >> other than the plan for the World Cup? Um can we grab a brief and I think I that was the meeting we're setting up right for the two groups of us. Is that correct? For the July for the July 4th. Is that's correct? It'll be. Yeah, we'll

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talk about Memorial Day, July 4th, World Cup, all of the summer events with you. >> Sorry, today's been a busy day. Sorry. So, I'm just trying to get in line with that. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. >> Wednesday, we'll chat. >> Y. All right. Sounds good. I appreciate it. Uh, that's it. Motion to close.

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>> Motion. >> All in favor. >> Thanks, everybody. Thank everyone. Thanks, Council. Thank you. See you, Jerry. Bye. See you. Bye-bye.