One thing Michael was too. rebounces. Yeah, I talked to him I I think I told you I talked to him about what you and I talked about how the lobbyist like you and I had the we had the conversation
here about the lobbyist and I had the same conversation. He said that he'd gotten calls from lobbyist um I said to Rob was why you know isn't there a take your legislation at the very least. Like if the lobbyists just
still want to have their fancy corporate helicopters flying, then why don't you just for now agree to that so we can get them on board so we can just get something done. Anything done? No, it's Joe. If not, I may have to come out
of the caster and set it up. I again it's it's right. It's not right. I mean the lobbyists are like we want executives to be able to have like air. Okay fingers everybody. Are we good to go?
All right. Sorry. Thank you for your patience, Annie. And if you could start over all three sentences. Great. Uh good evening everyone. I am Annie McAdams. I am the public art administrator for uh
Hoboken Cultural Affairs. And tonight I'm here to present a proposal for a mural at the 7th and Jackson resiliency park fence or wall. So the public
art is possible from the public art executive orders. Uh, executive order number two, June 25th, 2018, uh, declares that a bond um, bond ordinances shall be drafted to include a
provision dedicating maximum of 1% for funding art installations. Excuse me. And then, executive order number four, May 10th, 2019, establishes a city of Hoboken art committee advisory board.
The art committee is a group of citizens who volunteer to act as an advisory board to the mayor and the city administration relating to all questions involving public art and the city of Hoboken art program. The art program is created to enhance visual environment
for the city of Hoboken residents, to commemorate the city's rich cultural and ethnic diversity, to integrate the work of artists into the development of the city's capital infrastructure improvements, and to promote tourism and economic vitality in the city through
the artistic design of public spaces. So, here's a little um diagram of the process. In the spring of 2025, the arts advisory committee proposed the fence along 7th and Jackson
Resiliency Park as a local for a community mural to the administration. If the proposal is approved, the cost is $75,925. This is our public hearing. If the proposal is adopted, the administration and city council will
have final approval of the design before painting commences. The art would be completed over the summer of 2025. The artist is Emily Strauss of Mural Painters, Inc. Emily Strauss first submitted a mural proposal in response to the art
advisory committee's fall 2022 call for artists. Her project was one of several that was considered for promotion by the administration and the arts advisory committee. While ultimately different projects were selected for commission in 2024, the committee revisited her
proposal in 2025 when a mural at 7th and Jackson Resiliency Park was first suggested. This these are some examples of the murals she and her company have done. And you can see there's a a diversity of
style. So the content and execution of the mural will be created in collaboration with students who are participating in the summer mural arts program offered through Hoboken and Cultural Affairs. This program is free for families who qualify for free and
reduced lunch. The theme will be a celebration of the culture and community, excuse me, of Hoboken's west side. The administration and the city council will have final approval of designs before painting
commences. And this is the space we're discussing. So, you can see it's a long, long, low stretch. It's about 2,25 square ft. It's 45 5-ft panels that are 9 ft
high. And here are some examples of research we've done of other communitybased murals um uh with there's a variety of options. And the the unknown quantity here is it will be
developed in collaboration with students and the students will be learning how a professional mural artist approaches the job. So they'll they'll be learning about collaboration, editing, um revisions and then the actual
application of paint to surface. So, contribution. Oopsie, excuse me. Uh, the Hoboken Arts Advisory Committee believes that Hoboken's west side would benefit from public art and that given the small number of viable
mural walls in Hoboken, the fence along the east perimeter of the Seventh and Jackson Resiliency Park is an appropriate canvas. And local artist and business owner Emily Strauss and the artists at Mural Pages, Inc. are uniquely qualified to create an original piece of artwork
on the wall in collaboration with Hoboken Youth. Uh Mural Painters Inc.'s compositions are composed of bold colors in an array of styles and the community inspired design will complement the features of Seventh and Jackson Resiliency Park. And Emily has worked
previously on large-scale murals um also in Hoboken. She did the mural on Mission 50 building on the corner of Harrison and Jackson. Uh the HHAC or HAC recommends a commission of public art for this
location. Uh the park is located on a block that's part of a commuter throughway and it's not a part of a historic district nor is it considered a contributing property to any locally designated historic district. And we are not uh choosing to commission
a work of art that depicts a specific historical relevance per se, but this mural will reflect the people who live and work on the west side of Hoboken. Price and value. The budget for the mural requires an allocation from the Hoboken public art bond in the
amount of $75,925 for Emily Strauss and Mural Painters Inc. The cost breakdowns as follows. It's $35 per square foot for 2,2500 square f feet of mural. Uh that
includes paint, equipment, and custom stencil fabrication. That total amounts to 70,875. Priming the surface of the fence and adding a top coat to preserve the mural is another $4,50. And then design services,
including revisions, is 1,000. Useful life. The mural's useful life is between 10 and 15 years. And uh finally, uh Emily Strauss is a local established artist and Mural Painters, Inc. has national credentials.
The quality and reputation of her work is excellent. Let's see, there's I can go on and on. Um, 7th and Jackson resiliency park fence was installed in 2019 and um is considered of no
architectural significance, although I will say it is a pretty wall. Uh, the 700 block of Jackson Street contains the park, the Damon Murray, the 600 block of Jackson Street contains the park, the Damon Murray Community Gym, and the Jubilee Center. The addition of a
vibrant piece of public art should not have an adverse effect on businesses or residences. It should have a positive effect on tourism and the general enjoyment of the area. And Emily Strauss is creating an original piece of artwork for this location. The commission should
draw visitors and become a significant landmark in Hoboken. Finally, um we presented this idea to uh council members em um Emily Jabbor and Michael Russo. Uh and we attempted to
also include um Jim and had a problem with Zoom. At any rate, um they they agreed that it was a good idea and that it would be nice to have art in the third ward. However, uh at the time that
we presented this idea, we didn't have the actual proposal from Emily Strauss, so they were not aware of the uh price point for this mural. And that is it. Thank you so much for your time.
Thank you. Pardon? I guess we'll just do that. Uh, we want to ask questions or do we want to elicit comments from the public first? Any preference? What why don't we go with the public? Any if anybody wishes
to this is a hearing to express any thoughts? Liz Cohen, I see you raising your hand. Hi, my name's Liz and Doy and I am a member of the Hoboken Arts Advisory Committee and a long-term resident of
Hoboken. I'm speaking today in support of the city's proposal for a community-based mural. Thank you. Should I start again? No. No. I'm speaking today in support of the city's proposal for a community-based mural at the
seventh and Jackson Street resiliency park wall. Our committee has been committed to placing art in all parts of the city since we were created. We were most interested in placing art in the
southwest side of our city and the western portion of our city because it is beautiful but often forgotten and an overlooked area of Hoboken. So I believe this is a great opportunity
for us to showcase this art and I put quotes around it art desert and make it a destination and a respected section of our city that it has always deserve to
be. It is time for the southwest and western sections of our city to be seen as an integral part of the entire city. It is especially wonderful because this will be a communal project created by a
local artist while working with Hoboken children. One of the greatest things about art is that it is open and doable for everyone and it is available to do together and that always makes for
opportunities to share ideas, feelings and experiences which further fosters self-awareness, self-confidence, understanding and compassionate behavior in all who
participate. Art also enhances problem solving and learning abilities. In fact, several statistics show that arts education enhances academic achievement. For example, students with
more arts exposure have a 3.6% lower rate of disciplinary infractions. Furthermore, students with high arts participation have a dropout rate five times lower than their
peers. In addition, students with more arts learning show improvements in writing test scores and are more likely to graduate college. In short, I believe that this mural when completed will have given number one a
one-of-a-kind unique learning opportunity to our kids. Number two, a longlasting piece of visual beauty for the art makers to be proud of. Number three, something the community as a
whole um will have to appreciate and reflect upon. And number four, a spot in a little recognized and underappreciated exciting Hoboken neighborhood which will bring visitors
to our city to admire. While some may think art is a frivolous thing to spend money on, I believe it is the gift that keeps giving in surprising and often
unexpected ways. I strongly encourage this council to vote yay in favor of this meaningful project. Thank you for allowing me to speak this evening. Thank you. Thank you,
Liz. Are there any other members of the public who wish to speak? Mr. Just on the mural. Just on this mural. Uh Patricia, Mr. Rivera Soler. Joe, do you have Okay, we don't It's not working. So,
grab it. You can grab it. Grab it. There's no remote. Thank you, Council President. Uh just a few uh I would say things for clarity. I just would like to know if uh members of the public could understand. Um we do appreciate
the arts. Um we do not or most of us do not believe that um it is um money not well spent. I believe it is money well spent. Uh I also believe that in the location where the program or pardon me the mural would be does deserve um its
uh long overdue attention. Um it would be great for the community and for the visitors who come to or pass through this part of Hoboken. But just a few clarifications if members
of the public could understand. Um, when it comes to the lifespan of the mural, um, when you say 15 years, does that mean that the mural starts fading in 15 years?
Um, would it, uh, be worth the 75,000? um if it starts fading and then we have to pay another bunch of money to um fix it or uh somehow maintain it
after again speaking after its lifespan. Um that is a question if um maybe members of the public could understand more when you ask your questions. um council president. Um and yeah, and I also would be remiss if I again don't
say it because I couldn't see um exactly what really was the concept. And um I know that it was mentioned that it was going to reflect the culture of the neighborhood and of Hoboken, but once again I must always say reclaim and just
for it to be on the record um we need to think about Hoboken's history and its indigenous population of the Lenny Lenipede. um and as well as of course the contributions of the Latino, black and all races who made Hobbook what it
is. Uh with that, Council President, again, uh we do appreciate the mural where it's going to be located, but we just have just that tiny questions, the length of its lifespan, the money, um again, would it need to be fixed or maintained in some way? But again,
congratulations and thank you for the presentation. Thank you, Mr. Rivera Soler. Are there any other members of the public who wish to speak on this motion to close? Oh, hang on. Hang
on. Chris O' Conor. Good evening. I'm Chris O'Coner. Uh 3146 Street. Uh and I am a former member of the Arts Advisory Board. I was the chair when it was first formed. Um, and I also, uh, in transparency want to say that I'm, uh, betrothed to Annie
McAdams. Um, and, uh, I think this is a really great, uh, project. I think, um, it will put light on a a neglected, uh, part of our town. Uh, I think the engagement of art with with education uh, really leverages uh, this this
project. Uh, it will draw people into that community. And um in terms of the the question uh about the maintenance of the art, uh um this art has to uh last for at least 5 years. That's part of the
um uh the executive order. And there there are funds in the um in the budget that are that should be dedicated to maintenance of all the art of uh of Hoboken. So it, you know, there there'll be some some wear and tear on a a mural
like this, but uh there are funds to um uh to sustain it beyond uh 10 to 15 years. So thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Motion to close public portion. Anyone else? All right. Motion to close. Second.
Second. All those in favor? I uh council Annie, do you I can I ask a question of you? Yes. Um you heard so I I believe um Manny asked that he didn't
see the concept but the concept is to be determined through the process. Is that correct? Exactly. Yes. So there you didn't miss it. It's it has not been divined yet. No. uh which is part of the reason uh for sharing the research that we did so
that you can see the types of murals that we thought would be good and appropriate for this project. Uh but no, the mural design will be finalized with the students, but then it will be shared
with the community for vote. Yep. And just one more question and then I'll let Councilman Cohen. Um I I when the breakdown of the $75,000, [Music] it
uh it I was fulfilled. It dawns on uh me that I'm assuming that the artist will be engaged in this process of the the design. Yes. With the students. And so and I that is that folded into the
$75,000? It is not. The the teaching is paid for through cultural affairs. So this budget is only covering the cost of a professional mural on that much square
footage. Um and the artist has agreed to be paid what all the other teachers who are teaching for the summer arts program are being paid. Okay. Which is how much? Which Well, uh,
which Councilwoman Fischer wants to know how much that is by the hour? $80 a session. Okay. So tiny. And the number of sessions will be dictated by there. We have four weeks of Fridays
uh planned and there are four hours. So it would be 80 times 320. $320. I think we can afford that. All right. Thank you. Anyone else have actually Patricia, we we closed the public portion. Oh, this not the mural. Yeah.
Yes. This is Yes, that's the mural. Cuz you asked the question after. I want to know. She said $80 per student to go for the summer. Does that include H? No, she did not say that. The teacher will be paid $80 for a session and there'll be four sessions. So that's
$320 will be paid to the the artist to teach the kids. Okay. No, it's okay. Um, council president. Yep. Councilman, so I just wanted to
comment that this is coming out of the arts committee. uh the committee is in full support of this. Uh I think one of the aspects of it if Emily Strauss is a very talented portrait artist, we saw some of the examples of her work. Uh if
you look at the concrete wall on Sinatra Drive behind the little league field, you'll see a mural that was painted in 2005. It's a similar concept where it was done by a muralist and students painted it and it's still there. people
have had the length of the life. So it's 20 years on and it's one of the you know that 150 years ofo of history in Hoboken something that a lot of people have passed and you've probably seen it and noticed it as part of the thecape of the waterfront and that was created by
students who were taught by art teachers who are also members of our community uh today and and run art schools for children. So not only and and one of the comments that Mr. Rivera Soler made is that it would be good to have faces of people in the community and diverse
faces in the community and that's absolutely what we're thinking about. Uh the fact that this is going to be on the western edge of the city uh creating a mural and likely is going to be faces that the community thinks would be good to celebrate on the wall. So not only
will it be a beautiful art, but it will reflect the community. uh and it is an unused space that has uh unfortunately been a target for graffiti. Uh and this would be something that would make it a special place uh for the community as
opposed to uh a less than special place and it will enhance a public uh uh aspect of our community near the Damon Murray gym that I think people will really enjoy. Thank you, Council President. Thank you.
Um, someone else Fischer. Yep. Um, I love the concept and I love uh the work by this artist. I have a couple questions and um, Councilman Cohen just touched on one. This is an area that is uh, does have vandalism. We get
comments. How what how will it be handled once the mural is done? If it's vandalized, how does it get cleaned? Is it done in a way that it's protected, that it's easy to clean, and easy to replace? Yes. The the
the quote includes uh cost to coat the mural so that we can wash it if we need to. Great. And um this is more just process. I'm happy with the outcome, but I'm curious what the process was to
pick, you know, this artist and this project. Was there like an RFP? Did you talk widely with other artists or There was not a new RFP. So, we went back to the original artists who replied to the original call for proposals. And then in
addition, I reached out to other local muralists who um who have work nearby because the conditions of this particular project, if we're able to do it, it requires someone to be available to teach. So, of the people that I
reached out to, Emily Strauss came back and was available. Got it. Thank you. Thank you. Anyone else? One council president. One quick question. Uh, in anything in town, always, do we speak to the neighbors in the area just to let
them know that it's being painted? Uh, to kind of give them some heads up so it just doesn't appear overnight. Uh, and not not saying I mean, yeah, I'd love to get input from them, but I mean, just letting them know that it's happening. Um, has there been any engagement with people in the area? I know there's a
process uh that the HBA uses when they are proposing a mural and um, truthfully, I haven't been in charge of a mural of this size, but yes, we can let residents knows and I'm hoping residents will be involved as part of the conversation with the I think that's
one of the big if they don't know, they can't be involved to give feedback. So, I just if there's something we could do with the HOAs or or you know leaflets or something to people there, it' be great. Yeah. Thank you. I'm sorry. In the crowd control, we give
one. We're going to have to give everybody. Mhm. Right. You can How about you wait till the public portion or I don't want you to have to wait for an hour and a half. That's a no. Yeah. It's going to pass around. It's gonna pass. All right.
So, thank you very much, Annie. We're eager to see the results of of of this process. And uh Mr. Fina, on to second readings. Okay. The ordinance 752 has been
pulled. Ordinance 766 is carried to the June 16th meeting. and ordinance 767 has been carried to the June 4th meeting. We have an hearing on an ordinance to amend and
supplement an ordinance establishing a schedule of classifications and allocations of titles for the hearing mentioned positions in the city of Hobok. Um 757 uh Manuel Rivera Soler B757.
Okay. Uh once again, good evening, council president, council, members of the public. Council President, I want to be brief because I know um I may have asked this question um before, but can members of the public
understand that this ordinance or is this ordinance replacing B 747 that was um taken out? I don't know if it was pulled or carried in two meetings ago. Um, also just for clarification purposes, the
only thing that you are considering this evening would be the titles and salaries that were outlined in the pock in the packet uh ordinance
and no other rank and file would be uh affected with this uh ordinance. So the question would be very simple. It's just the persons who are were outlined in the packet page and their their salaries and
does it replace or where is B747? That is all council president. I yield back time. You're asking about 747 or 757. No, we had a resol uh ordinance in second reading. I believe it was B747
that I asked in last meeting. um that was in regards to this same title but had something else. I do not want to mention what had something else but Yeah. Are you are you done? I think we
can get for you. Yeah. This the fire chief was removed. So this still has the the the PBA police officers. There's a large red or excuse me yellow
highlighted portion if you look on in the website and the OEP director is also included in this. So the fire chief was removed from this ordinance and it's coming it's come back to us. No other members of the public have
signed up to speak. Motion to close public portion. Second. All those in favor? I Mr. Uh, anyone? Mr. Fina, call the vote. Mr. Con? Hi. Mr. Fisher, no. No.
Mrs. Jabor, yes. President Jano, no. Cano. I Mr. Ramos. No. No. He said no. Mr. Russo. Yes.
President Oil. I Mr. And yeah, Tiffany was a no. I think you checked yes for Tiffany. Um, okay. So, ordinance uh ordinance hearing on an ordinance to exceed the municipal budget
appropriations limit and to establish a a cap bank NJSA4A col4-45.14. No members of the public have signed up to speak on this close by portion. Second. All those in favor.
I Mr. Fina, please call the vote. Mr. Con? I. Miss. Fisher. Yes. Yes. President Jano. No. Mr. Cano. Hi. Mr. Ramos. No. Mr. Russo. No. President
Doyle. I. Hearing on an ordinance amending Hoboken city code 59A article 3 outside police personnel employment to amend outside employment rates in accordance with
amendments to the city's contract with the PBA. Uh Mr. Manuel Rivera again. Council President, I'll be brief. Um, I appreciate the opportunity. I just
would like to know or for clarification is for members of the public to to also understand this ordinance is is it just for again what's being presented here for
non police officials and these amounts that are being changed some even doubled. Do they have or do you have council president or the council um
understanding how it would affect the upcoming discussions in the budget? Was it factored in already? Um again being that is outside of the police. So that means civilians. Um what is the opportunity for members
of the public to understand is it factored into when the police present their their budget? And tonight you're just voting, you are voting just for the doubling of whatever those rates or the amount of whatever those rates are. And
uh with that I yel back. Thank you. No other members of the public have signed up to speak. Motion to close public portion. Second. All those in favor? I. So Manny, this is outside employment. So this is not in the budget
individuals. It is it it is it is a tax in the sense of whomever needs to close a road etc may have will be paying these rates. They aren't doubled but they are significantly increased like roughly
$50. A portion of them comes to the city and the majority goes to the officers who are on off duty and choosing to work uh extra hours. So, it wouldn't impact the city's budget other than getting
some money in, but it it would increase the cost for whether it be developers or homeowners to hire outdoor uh excuse me, outside police officers to assist in construction activities,
etc. President, yes, it it does impact it's not an immediate huge impact day one. Um, but taxpayers pay a lot of it. So any any city project, any of the water utility projects, any of our big parks, any of the Sinatra Drive closures
that require police, those are all um funded by taxpayers. So there is a real cost to taxpayers and there's a real cost to residents. So, if you're an individual resident and let's say you need to do a um a sewer connection to your house and
you have to shut the road, you know, to do it, you have to pay the road closing permit, but then you're are now paying $100 an hour or um if it's some overtime, it's $145 an hour. It's a crazy dollar amount and it's as we
talked about at the last meeting um it is not there's no precedent for it outside of Hoboken. It's an unsupported number. It's just a really big number and we shouldn't have given it up the first time and now we have to give it up uh the second time.
Well, it I I would add that it is also consistent with the increases in the salaries. This is in accordance with it. So, we'd be somewhat out of whack with our recently increased salaries if we were to I'm not here to advocate for it.
I I do support it, but um Mr. Pina, call the vote. Mr. Cohen, I miss Fischer. No. Mrs. Jabore. President, no.
Mr. Cano, hi. Mr. Ramos, hi. Russo I President Doyle I hearing on an ordinance amending chapter 192 parking for persons with disability. Uh no members of the public seem to have
signed up for this. Uh Patricia Waiters, did did you sign up for any particular ordinance because I think you Okay. So motion to close public portion. Second. All those in favor? I I Mr. Fina, please call the vote. Mr. Con,
hi. Fisher, yes. Mrs. Jabore, yes. President, I Mr. Cano, hi. Mr. Ramos, hi. Mr. Russo, hi. President Doyle, I hearing on an ordinance of the city of Hoboken County of Hudson, state of New Jersey,
vacating a portion of Jackson Street right away to be combined with block 14, lot one. Uh, no members. I'm sorry. Mr. Manuel Rivera
Soler B762. Do you have a public portion? Just a public. Yeah. Go ahead, Manny. Just the general public portion. Thank you. Uh, thank you, council president. Uh, thank you, council member. Uh, council president. Um just
for clarification purposes and for me for members of the public to understand um the particular phrase vacating the portion um of the public right away what exactly that entails. Of
course it does say a little further that you're combining two streets I'm assuming or two um yeah I would say two streets. I'm not so sure. But anyway, could you possibly council president council could
elaborate further on the terminology of vacating uh the portion of the public right away? Is that just um a uh technical term that just you're just combining something? You're not giving anything away. Could you just express
that to members of the public? I believe I read it, but I just have the question already jotted down. So, um, I appreciate it and I yield back. Okay, there's no other members of the public signed up to speak. Motion to close. Public portion. Thank you. All those in
favor? I I uh vacate means to abandon or give up. So there there are two rights of way. B 762 and B763 are two different rights of way.
with a total 869 square ft. They're narrow strips on two sides of the triangle of the building that are down in the triangle property down near Southwest Park. And as part of the
redevelopment plan, uh the I the developer is providing a $550,000 public benefit, you know, the benefit of that much money and the city is
vacating this 860 square ft. So, this is a a real property transaction to allow them to use that strip of land on two sides of the building. Um, Mr.
Fina for B62 five, excuse me, 762. Mr. Con. Hi, Miss Fiser. Yes, Mrs. Jabore. Yes, President. Hi, Mr. Cano. I Mr. Ramos I
Mr. Russo I President Doyle I hearing on an ordinance of the city of Hobok and county of Hudson state of New Jersey vacating a portion of observer highway right away to be combined with block 14 lot one
uh Manuel Rivera Saler you signed up for this as well okay motion close thank you very much second all those in favor I Mr. Mr. Fina Mr. Con Hi, Mr. Fiser. Yes,
Mr. Jabore. Yes, Mr. President. Hi, Mr. Cano. Hi, Mr. Ramos. Hi, Mr. Russo. I President Doyle. I hearing on an ordinance to amend chapter 190-11 entitled loading zones. Add a loading
zone to Adam Street between First Street and Second Street. Uh, wait a minute. Is that I Yeah, I'm sorry. You were correct. Um, no members of the public sign to speak. Second. All those in favor? I Mr.
Fina, please call a vote. Mr. Con. Hi. Fisher. Yes. Mrs. Jabore. Yes. President Xano. Hi. Mr. Cano. I. Mr. Ramos. Hi. Mr. Russo. Hi. President Doyle. I. A. Hearing on an ordinance amending
chapter 190-11 entitled loading zone to add loading zone to Patterson Avenue. No members of this public have signed up to speak. Motion portion second. Second. All those in favor? I. Mr. Fina, please call the vote. Mr. Cone, I. Miss
Fischer, yes. Mrs. Jabor, yes. President Xano, hi. Mr. Cano, hi. Mr. Ramos, hi. Mr. Russo, hi. President Doyle, I. So that's it for ordinances. Yes, we're on to the the public portion for
the agenda public to uh if I can have that list. This would be on agenda items only. Manny and Pat. [Applause]
Uh Zachary King. He's going to be on an agenda. Did I get that right? Zachary. Zachary King. Yeah, thank you. Thanks. Um, yeah, so the issue that I'd like to speak on is about the HHA redevelopment plan. Um, I know
that, uh, the HHA is in charge of that. I also know that this council has some pretty significant power when it comes to approving or disapproving of the plan, also in making recommendations to the HHA. Uh, when we were working on the campaign to save rent control, we knocked a lot of doors in HHA buildings.
We spoke with a lot of residents. uh we've connected with more residents in the intervening time as Hobok and United tenants and I've heard a lot of concerns about the redevelopment plan. I'm sure all of you are aware that redevelopment of public housing in the United States often maybe most of the time has
resulted in significant displacement of residents. Um and I know that that's a concern of residents in the HHA buildings that uh many residents feel that they may be displaced through the redevelopment process. It's happened many times. it could happen here as
well. On paper, the plan looks really good. Like there's a lot of reassurance uh in terms of just statements saying like our intention is not to displace anyone. That was also true of all of the other public housing redevelopment plans where lots and lots of residents were
displaced. Um, so given that I I would really like to see more of an institutionalized guarantee against displacement because, you know, government can't just function on trust us, you know, we say we're going to do the right thing. Um, so I I would really like to see some kind of formalization
whether you have the power to do that or whether you can make that recommendation uh to the folks in charge of HHA. Um, specifically, you know, I I think it would really help one to have a a formally empowered uh resident body that
can oversee in a transparent way the process of people being removed from their housing and then moved into newly built units. Right? I understand that the project is phased uh and it's intended to move people out um and then move them into the newly built units.
And so the intention is never to have a a situation where people are left without any housing, which is how it's happened in other cities in the past. Um, I think that this could be uh you you could push on this a little bit more. I think that we should have a written guarantee that no resident will
be moved out until the residents that have been moved out have been moved back in. If if I'm making that clear. So first of all, residents having some kind of power and a lot of transparency over the process. Second, a formalized, institutionalized, written guarantee
that no one's going to be moved out uh until residents have been moved back in. So, we know nobody's getting displaced. Thank you, Council President. Thank you. Um I I think there are some misconceptions there and if you you Councilman Russo and Councilman Ramos
have both been very engaged in this and I will Yeah. And I'll I'll just jump in real quick. Um so I I absolutely agree with your your concern. However, all along the way there have been uh statements. There have been written
documents uh to say that there will be zero displacement for any residents. Uh we're ensuring that all along the way from the very beginning of the conversation how we spoke to our residents, we had those public meetings at the housing authority. We have spoken
at numerous meetings at the housing authority. We've spoken here at the council to reiterate that time and time and time again. That is clarified and and specifically stated in all of those documents every step of the way. So, it's been there. Uh to add, there's
redundancy in the process. It's not just the housing authority commissioners that are making that decision. There's a nonprofit, the housing for hoboken, that is separate and apart from the housing authority commissioners as well that make decisions that then goes to the
housing authority commissioners. They vote on it. This council also votes on it. So there's now three layers of making sure that those tenants of this redevelopment project will be adhered to every step of the way. So, I absolutely
appreciate your concern and I'm absolutely with you to say originally that was a a concern I think of everyone's, but every step along the way, we're making sure we're reiterating that to everybody and we're ensuring that it's going to happen that way. So,
Councilman Ramos, yeah, I think uh when we started the process, like you like the the speaker said, uh a lot of other uh housing authority agencies around the country did displace their residents. You look at Chicago, you look at Baltimore, look at Holland Gardens, right right at our border. So, we were
extremely cognizant of that fact. Do everything that we can do the exact opposite of that where we have zero displacement going going happen within this process. All 852 units are going to be rebuilt right within the housing authority and like you said, people going to be moved into those units
permanently without moving people twice. We wanted to avoid that process alto together. So the first building is going on the vacant parking lot which is a housing authority property. Uh as far as the resident board they do have a resident advisory board which we met with multiple times. We had multiple
public meetings about the process. If you look at the document uh page one first paragraph talks about not being no displacement within this project is our goal and that's going to maintain our project. rounding anyone up here. I feel comfortable speaking for all of you
throughout this process that that was our number one goal at this day. It's whatever we met with the housing authority. Every meeting we had, it was reiterated over and over again that that was the case. We would not have this process whatsoever. So, we feel extremely confident and comfortable in trying to upgrade the housing authority
residents uh living conditions, which if you've been through the building, uh it's a dire need uh of upgrading. Uh we're going to make sure that happens and make sure that no one is displaced without this process. So, I appreciate the question and hopefully you'll be part of our process with us. Make sure it doesn't happen as well. Thank you.
Thank you, Councilman. And just to live up to my reputation of being a pain in the ass, um the only thing I what Councilman Ramos said it very well eloquently, but at one point you said, you know, like rehabilitating, we're we're going to
build brand new units, you know, and and then so people will only move once. They'll move into a new building which will then leave vacant buildings which will be torn down, rebuilt and then so the goal is to everyone move once and no one to be displaced. So um anyway, so
that's um you're coming. You're coming. So uh Manuel Rivera Soler on the consent agenda. I mean you signed up either one. He said Pat can go first.
Yes, of course. Patricia, would you like to come up? Control. He's yielding his time. He's like, "No, I'm speaking on the housing." What this young man 4 at the very end is the resolution with
regard to the housing too. It's in the same thing. Two 200,000 from the affordable. Anyway, I don't got to redo all of that. Y'all know what I'm talking about. I must respectfully disagree. This is like I'm sorry to get up here and get emotional, but I don't like lies
and deception. You know where this came from? I was Camello Garcia then back then. Aid. I was the assembly aid to Camlo Garcia. He had a dream for a plan called 2020 vision. Exactly was written in this legislation is the same thing.
And I'mma bring show you proof cuz I was his aid then. And it's so disingenuine. I go to Jersey City. I was with Brian Stack in Holland Gardens. Uh my my goddaughter just moved out of Jersey City, Lafayette Village. They did the same thing. And they promising these
people they not going to be displaced. But you know what's scary? What this young man should have asked? Do we got the vote? I'm getting sick of hearing that people is being appointed to the HHA that shouldn't even be there. And once you get appointed, whoever appoints
you, the mayor, the city council, whoever, you under they spell. So you got to do what they say cuz you just another vote. It breaks my heart when I stand up here. 27 years of me trying to get on that HHA. But I laugh at y'all
when y'all don't pick me and y'all tell me, "Oh, cuz I don't have the vote." But I walk around with big ass rats in them people's house. I walk around with rusty water, feces coming out, and you keep promising them an empty dream. This is
yours. And now tomorrow, I'mma go in my storage and bring every document and show you the same exact story, the same exact lies. We are tired, especially at a time like this. Y'all shouldn't do it. Mayor seat, ding, ding, ding. Council at
large, every time. Who do you think you got fooled? It bothers me. Somebody tell the truth. Please pull a Beth Mason. She didn't care if she didn't have the other eight votes. She called the state in cuz her own
colleagues wouldn't support her. And it's sad that you got to be a vote. Now, the seed is up in HHA and it's mysteriously I'm seeing that's what I was going to speak on anyway. 200 grand coming from the affordable PE. You getting 200 grand. Okay. that you take
it from the affordable housing trust fund. Put it inside those units. They waiting for y'all to help them and you going to talk about this new project being built and all of y'all sitting up there agreeing on it. Lies. I'm not impressed. I'm so
disappointed in all of y'all. Thank you, Miss Waiters. Jim, can I clarify one thing with the difference between our project and their project? Yes. Go ahead. There there's one distinct difference between our pro our project and Hoboken
compared to the Holland Gardens project. Those residents were promised vouchers and they can move wherever they want and then once the project is built they can move. They have the option of moving back but that project may be built like 10 15 years from now. Our project no
one's moving a a a new building is getting built and then residents moving into that building. And so that's a huge difference. So no one's being displaced, given a voucher to move someplace else to knock a building down. A new building's getting built, residents moving into that building, and then the process will go
from there. So that that's what's saving our project. I'm talking about Hollings. Manuel Rivera Solair getting up. Bring it home, Manny. Council President, once again, thank
you. You're up, Manny. You're up. Yes, I know. And uh I don't know if I could follow uh the intensity, but I will try. I I think I'm going to fail. You guilded to her, right? I did. Right. But no, it she did
uh express her opinion, so it's valid. Um, council president uh here I would like to start off with the consent agenda. I'll try to be brief because uh I believe that uh there's not there's not uh yeah I want to start off with this. I
want to um sorry about that. Uh I want to again like I did the last time and again council president this is just me wishing or congratulating someone I need. I do not uh require council to mention or
uh I guess give us any explanation on it but I would just again like to uh congratulate uh uh Mr. Caleb Stratton for being uh or being nominated or going to be in
the commission for the self insurance which is a I guess we're going to be speaking a lot cuz I attend the meeting religiously uh as well as uh um Miss uh Daisy Amado again to them congratulations.
uh also uh the the appointee for the cannabis uh again I might get to know her better as I do also attend that meeting which they've been very scar uh sparse to Lauren Molen Molin I hope I pronounced that correctly
Lauren uh council president I continue with climate action innovation yes these we do need um if you can discuss them is CL CL CA1 Um this uh continue increased amount
um C A 4 in community development. Council President CD2 CD3 and CD3. Council President, it's
just um if you could elaborate if me could elaborate so that members of the public could understand or have a better understanding in regards to the amount that's being um uh posted here so that members of the public could obviously understand that
this is for affordable housing in this in this section in CD3 of the resolution. uh as well as in here I go again uh in clerks CL2 council president and CL2 um it is very um I would
say emotional sometimes because as a member of the public that spoke um earlier um it is uh hard for people to again as I say every time uh to understand the process of why and how people get selected um for these types
of um uh positions. Um I don't begrudge the person any any of her um merits for getting the this appointment, but um uh I just cannot understand people keep applying and applying and they never hear back and they are very wellversed
in uh these types of um commissions and um so again I just want to say I hope I hope I'm not losing the crowd. I want to say congratulations to um Carmen Vega well-deserved and wellrespected member
of her community a senior who is revered so it's not the person it's the system is what I am criticizing in CL3 so uh I continue uh public um parks recreations
just going to say the number it's F1 if you could uh elaborate on that Um and obviously the only one that's there public safety uh PS1 again like to congratulate in the grant for us having this grant. Um again grants are very
important so anytime we have one we should highlight it as a good uh thing on our agenda and finalizing with um transportation and parking. Uh also, uh T1, Council President, uh if you could
elaborate a little bit, um why is that bid or was that bid rejected? Just so that members of the public can get a better understanding of the process and why it's important to have bids and to accept them or reject them so we can know what was the purpose of the
rejection if um if it was a major uh thing. And I also want to say um CD4 again it is important to continuously inform members of the public to understand um the reasoning why um this
resolution is important. Of course um no one wants displacement and nobody would nobody would accept a displacement of um those members of the community. Um okay thank you council president. uh and also why is it going back to
um the planning board of adjustment and again I have no time to yield. I'll give you 20 seconds later. Thank you council president. Mr. Rivera Solair. Uh there are no other members of the public signed up to motion to close. Motion
close. Second. All those in favor. Well, there was a lot there. Uh T1 just um we voted last meeting to initiate the process of uh designation with regard to
the Midtown garage. So since we're evaluating that for possible redevelopment, the you know the bids that we had received on work which may or may not ever need to be performed are
being rejected because of lapsing of time. So um there were some I think there was a lot of CD3 was one. I don't CD3. Does somebody want to I it's you know this is No, I can answer that one
if you want more. Yeah. This is this is the uh Hobo Community Center property where the future food pantry is going to be going. This is for the units uh above the the future food pantry. So this is our commitment of uh supporting that project they need from the from us from
the state of New Jersey and other grants that they'll be applying for. This is our commitment to their application process for future funding. So it will be both the pantry and housing. So, it's a win-win. Um, okay. So, members of the
council, with regard to pulling items from the agenda, consent agenda, T1, CA4, CD1, CD1, you said CD1. Yeah. And CA4. Yep.
Um, TD14 going call it. Uh, all right. All else uh it's T1 CA4 and CD1 uh are are pulled and the rest on
consent. Mr. Con? I miss Fischer. Uh, yes. Mrs. Jabor, yes. President Xano. I can I Mr. Ramos I Mr. Russo I
President Doyle I uh CA4 alphabetically. Thank you Mr. Lore. Mr. Presidento CA4 I have the miscellaneous CA4 CA4. Okay. statute of limitations
running. Uh, sorry. Nice. Uh, so we're we're going to beautify the uh I Who's I don't know. Is it director Gonzalez? Is it still you or is it I forgot. I know you got your new role. So
it's CA4 is on the uh beautifification I guess after we finish the portico I guess. Indeed. And I see 27 knockout roses bushes. Indeed. So, we're going to add some color to the front of city hall. Yes. Nice. Okay. And I do want to say knockout roses, you have to trim
them back to get the roses back every single time. So, we're going to know that they are very labor intensive. We they're significantly less labor intensive than other options and they have done well in other locations and therefore we are proposing them here. Okay. All right. That's all I wanted to
know is the colors coming back to the front front of city hall. That is certainly the goal as requested by the council. Thank you, Council President. Director, just uh follow up. Is this going to be a yearly contract to N maintain that? No, this is a one-time
this is a onetime contract um for the actual planting. Um large portion of the work is actually the site work in order to grade it properly, install the new top soil, and install the new plants. Um, and then maintenance will actually be done in house by our um by our uh maintenance employees who maintain the
exterior of the building. Quiet down, please. Beautiful. Thank you. That's what I wanted to know. Thank you. Okay. Um, Mr. Fina, call the vote. Mr. Con? I. Fisher. Yes. Mr. Jabore. Yes. President. Yes. Mr.
Hi. Mr. Ramos. Hi. Mr. Russo. Hi. President Oy. I CD1 resolution awarding a contract to the OTO group for general financial advisory services in the amount of $15,000.
This isn't in particular to any project. This is just a general one of three or one of four. Uh, Director Brown, a tow group. Councilman. Oh, the the uh ATO group. A tow group. The 15K for them to provide services. It's just to have
them on call kind of or are they actually doing a project? Yeah, we'd have them on call for general questions, services as needed. There's a clause in there where they can do escrow work um or projects that are funded through
escrow so they can help us on um different facets that we need. Thank you. Just making sure there's not a project behind this specific which tends to come up on these agendas that we don't know what they're what's behind it unless we ask questions. No general
financial general real estate advisory services. Thank you. Thank you, director. Uh, Mr. Fina, seeing nothing. Mr. Conn, hi. Miss Fischer, yes. Mr. Boore, yes. President,
hi. Mr. Cano, hi. Mr. Ramos, hi. Mr. Russo, hi. President Doyle I T1 which is uh for me resolution rejecting bid bids excuse me bid proposals
received in response to bid number 24-14 for the Midtown garage rehabilitation project. Councilwoman Jabore. Thank you, Council President. Um I know Council President, you covered this a little bit um in response to the questions uh from members of the public. I just want to
express um sorry the members of the public. Members of the public. Correct. Uh I just want to express on the record my deep frustration over this project and the lack of action moving forward. Um as my colleagues likely remember this
first went out to bid actually I think initially last summer. Um we did not receive any bids. The bid specs had to be revised. It went back out to bid and then suddenly as things became clear in terms of the administration's interest
in a larger redevelopment project related to Hoboken University Medical Center, this got put on hold. And I'm sure some of my other colleagues um have se re received similar complaints, but people parking in this garage have
experienced damage to their cars because of literally melting cement that is damaging their cars and the paint that the city has then had to pay for. Um we've had to do a number of special cleaning projects associated with it. People who work in the hospital report
unsanitary conditions related to some of the bird feces that are on site there. Um, and an increasing number of parking spaces in that garage are becoming unusable. At a time when we need more garage spaces available to us because
we've lost the Garden Street garage, uh, there's potentially a project coming to garage B that we've discussed here. Uh, and it concerns me that the administration doesn't seem to have good answers when it comes to a larger plan about what we're doing about municipal garage parking. Um, and I don't lay this
at the feet of Director Weber. We've had this conversation. he knows of my frustration. Um, but I would like to just put on the record that I think that we are owed some level of strategic thinking about what it is that we're going to do about our municipal garage capacity. Um, as we continue to pull
back on the availability uh of spaces like Midtown Garage, uh I am hopeful that we will do at least some short-term repairs to recover some of the spaces that are in the Midtown garage so that we can give assurances to the residents who continue to reach out to us with
concerns about those conditions. um that we can give them answers about what's really going to happen because I feel like I've promised them a number of times that this project would be moving forward and now tonight we are rejecting the bid that we did have on the table with a contractor who is ready to go and
start this work months ago. Um so I just want to be clear um I will be in support of rejecting these bid proposals tonight in the name of moving forward, but I would like to see this come back to us um with specifics and I'm looking forward to having that conversation in our transportation subcommittee. Thank
you. Thank you, Councilwoman. Uh, no, I'll I'll Fischer. Yeah. No, I I would uh I would generally agree with Councilwoman Jabbor. I think um we did and is Jesse here or is it or I think
when we had our um hospital meeting? I think we do have a sense that there's a plan B with costs that are significantly lower to effectively um manage or uh maintain and do some improvements in this garage to buy another five to seven
years while we kind of get through whatever we're going to do with the hospital. Is that fair? It's like 5 million or $7 million or something. It's not the 38 million that this project was going to be. We're preparing a bid package for repairs to keep the garage
in operation for But I I thought we I I don't know if you were in that meeting, but we were we were in the hospital meeting looking at Joe where she threw out a number. She threw out a number Jesse threw out a number of like
$7 million or something to So it's a number. You have an idea. You have an order of magnitude idea. It's it's it's an order of magnitude, right? it it hasn't been precisely speced, right? It needs to go out to bid.
That that uh estimate really precedes a lot of the turbulence that's happening right now with commodities and yeah, uh so we'll we'll see what the unit costs are uh when we
when we go to bid. And I know and I think that you've gotten um complaints about uh like Councilman Jar was saying uh cars that have you know pigeons. We have a pigeon issue. We were going to bird netting will be the first item.
Awesome. Undertaken. Awesome. Um perfect. Thank you. So it's underway. My point is it's underway. We have been hearing about it in various bits and bobs. I was actually surprised when we were in the hospital subcommittee meeting that there was even conversations about a plan B which was a
much smaller number. Um but I think we just need to move forward with it as quickly uh as possible. Um thank you and the only that that for you that's fine. Uh and the only other thing I would say is um thank you director.
I it's slightly interesting to me that given the votes and the push for garage B um and the the hospital that for some
reason now there's a conversation on oh my god what are we going to do with parking when that was at the crux of garage B that was at the crux of you know the hospital. So, it's great that we finally are having council people that voted yes for both to take twothirds of our parking out at the same
time. Um, actually now worrying about parking. So, I hope that that uh interest in parking continues. Thank you, Mr. Fina. Call the vote. Mr. Con, I fer yes. Mrs. Jabore, yes. President, I
excuse me. I Mr. Ramos I Mr. Russo I President Doyle I ordinances for introduction of first reading an ordinance amending Hoboken city code chapter 190 vehicles and
traffic to amend viola reserve parking space Mr. Fina please call the vote Mr. Con I miss Fiser yes Mr. Mr. Jabore. Yes. President Xano. Yes. First. Hi. Mr.
Ramos. Hi. Mr. Russo. Hi. President Doyle. Hi. An ordinance amending chapter 190 article 2 section 190-4 C of the Hoboken city code establishing pickup and drop off zone on Grant Street.
Mr. Fina, please call a vote. Mr. Con. I. M. Fischer. Yes. Mr. Jabor. Yes. President. Hi. Mr. Cano. I Mr. Ramos. Hi, Mr. Russo. I President To. Yeah. I an ordinance amending chapter 192 section
192-4A to add restricted parking space for persons with disabilities. Mr. Con. I Fiser. Yes. Mrs. Jabore. Yes. President. Hi. Mr. Cano. Hi. Mr. Ramos.
Hi. Mr. Russo. Hi. President Toy. Hi. Ordinance amending amendments to 190-11 loading zone designating first and Marshall Street. Mr. Fina, please call a vote. Mr. Cohen, hi. Mr. Fischer, yes.
Mr. Jabore, yes. Mr. Presidento, I. Mr. Canero, hi. Mr. Ramos, hi. Mr. Russo, I President Toy, I. Ordinance amending permitted taxi affairs in Hoboken city code chapter
179 taxi cabs. Mr. Fina, please call the vote. Mr. Con, hi. Miss Fiser, yes. Mr. Jabor, yes. Mr. President, hi. Mr. Cano, hi. Mr. Ramos, hi. Mr. Russo, hi. President
Doyle, I. Ordinance amending chapter 110-25 storage refuge and receptacles. Mr. Fina, please call the vote. Mr. Con, hi. Miss Fischer, yes. Mr. Jabor, yes. President, hi. Mr. Cathero, hi. Mr.
Ramos, hi. Mr. Russo, I. President Doyle. I. An ordinance amending chapter 98 firearms of of Hoboken city code to include firearm storage requirements. Mr. Fina, please call the vote.
Mr. Con, I Miss Fischer, yes. Mr. Jabor, yes. President Xano, hi. Mr. Cano, hi. Mr. Ramos, hi. Mr. Russo, hi. President Doyle, I. Ordinance amending Hoboken Housing Authority redevelopment plan.
Mr. Fina, please call the vote. Mr. Con, I. Miss Fischer, yes. Mr. Jabore, yes. President, hi. Mr. Cano, hi. Mr. Ramos, hi. Mr. Russo, hi. President Doyle, I. Resolution CD4, resolution city of Hobok
and referring the adoption of the amendment to the Hoboken Housing Authority redevelopment plan to the Hoboken planning board for review and report pursuant to the local redevelopment housing law. Mr. Fina, please call a vote.
Mr. Con, I Fischer, yes. Mrs. Jabore, yes. President Jano, hi. Mr. Conro, hi. Mr. Ramos, hi. Mr. Russo, hi. President Doyle. Hi. So, public portion.
Uh I believe uh Liz Nadoy has left the building. Um Zachary King. Hi council. Thank you. Um so Zachary King again I'm a member of Hobok and United Tenants. Uh after we defeated the
attack on rent control in Hoboken, we moved on to trying to uh build community with tenants across the city. Uh make sure people know their rights and make sure that they know that they need to assert their rights for them to mean anything. So on that note, this might kind of uh elucidate why I don't
necessarily trust something on paper. Um and and this is why. So in the process of talking with tenants across the city, uh it's become apparent to us that there are a whole lot of loopholes and things not being enforced. So, we have rights on paper, but there's a lot of problems with how it's playing out in reality.
Um, so first of all, we have the right to do a legal rent calculation. The vast majority of tenants that I talk to that are in any kind of sticky situation with their landlord don't want to do the legal rent calculation because it requires their landlord to be notified. Now, we know that there's ways around that. Like, you can file an Oprah
request, right? But, uh, that doesn't necessarily carry the same weight and not everyone knows that you can do that. A lot of people don't even know to do the calculation in the first place. But I would really like to see us get rid of this automatic notify the landlord that you did the legal rent calculation. Why shouldn't a tenant be able to know what
their legal rent is without their landlord knowing that they looked it up, which could carry consequences? Um, another one is, uh, I just worked with a tenant who got an illegal rent increase on a rent controlled unit. They were still forced out of their home. We did everything right. We contacted the city.
Um, we spoke with the tenant council. Um, everything was confirmed. This was an illegal rent increase. But guess what? The landlord has the power to deny new roommates. And this is a student at Stevens who couldn't afford their place even at the legal rent without roommates. So their landlord could just
sit quiet and not respond to their emails about the illegal rent increase. And they're not going to be able to pay the rent because they would have liked to just sit there and keep paying their legal rent, but they can't afford it without the new roommates. Their old roommates were moving out. So de facto, they got kicked out. They're living in the Heights now, right? Um so these
things are happening every day. Um people aren't aware of their rights. We've also heard um that a lot of people are getting advice from the city's tenant advocate that later proves to be uh inaccurate. And we know that the city's tenant advocate also does their day job working for landlords a lot of
the time. We would like to see this looked at. We'd like to see a tenant advocate that we know is on the side of tenants. Um and then there's there also appears to be a lot of illegal Airbnbs operating. If I just go on Airbnb and look at the listings, they don't seem to be in compliance with the law. So
there's a lot of shitty things happening. Like this city's done a great job in terms of the laws that we have on paper. We have some really good tenant protections. I really want to see us enforce them so they mean something. And that's why we're out here, right, working with tenants trying to get people to learn their rights, organize
with each other, and assert their rights because our rights don't mean anything if we don't organize. Um, and then the last thing I want to say, you know, I know that the issue got moved, uh, but Marine View Plaza has been doing amazing work, doing exactly what I'm talking about. And that's why folks from Hoboken United Tenants are here tonight because
we're inspired by we're inspired by the work that the residents of Marine View Plaza are doing to defend and assert their rights as tenants, and we call on the whole city to support them. Thank you. [Applause] Thank you, Mr. King. Manuel Rivera
Soler. Good defer. Just back. I yield. I love when he says it. I will. I just want to say this. Um there's good news. Uh I'm sure everybody knows by now, but I just want
to uh mention it here. Of course, we're all very happy uh that um a fellow New Jerseyian has been returned to his family and friends, a fellow New Jerseyian that was held uh hostage.
Thank God. Um his name is Edan Alexander. Edan, all of New Jersey is happy you're home. You're going to be with your family soon. So, thank you um to everyone who helped get him free. Thank you. Thank you. Um, so with that,
council president, I also just want to say it is um Asian, pardon me, I want to say it correctly. Um, May is of course um AsianAmerican and Pacific Islander Heritage Month. We want to celebrate with them. We want to wish them a uh
happy month, a joyous celebrations to them all safe and in peace. And with that, I'm going to end it with Slava Ukraine Slava. So, we're also praying for the peace um that hopefully
is coming soon or at least a ceasefire for all of our um I guess I want to also say the the people, but I can't remember how to pronounce the name correctly unless I have it written down for our sister city in the Ukraine. But um with that again,
council president, I I will say God bless you, God bless you all, and God bless Hoboken. And now I yield back the rest and total amount of my minutes. Thank you, Council President. Have a good week. Thank you, man. Thank you.
Uh Kevin Davis, he's got bananas. I know. I I'm a man of my word. I came here. Boy, nobody even knows what I'm doing with bananas yet. I came, but I bet you can guess because I came here months ago and I was talking about how I
opred a email that the Kimley Horn consultants sent to the city with a file on it with draft recommendations for the Kimley Horn parking study, although it's known as its official name, Curbside
Re-Imagined. So I said if I get that file before they really make their recommendations public, I was going to wear a banana costume and bike up and down Washington Street for an hour on the first 60°ree day of the year. And that didn't happen. And I said, "If it
doesn't happen, I'm just going to go to the next city council meeting and go bananas." Now, that banana gives me a good taste in my mouth. The banana I just ate gave me a good taste in my mouth. I can't say the same about the recommendations uh
from the Kimley Horn study. Uh they talked, it's not nice to talk with food in your mouth. Um they talked about dynamic pricing of the curb. So, let me explain what that means in English because that sounds like Yiddish to me.
And I think that idea is majuga. So dynamic pricing they would the city would charge for parking as much as they could. So I was critical of bike hoboken for recommending a bike hoboken tariff
on residential parking parking permits from $60 to $245 a year. So more than tripling it. But this tops it because with dynamic pricing, let's say the city does raise it to an arbitrary number, $245 a year for a residential parking
permit. And let's say all the people in Hobo can continue to park because hey, we can afford to pay that. Well, if uh people are still parking, city's going to raise it again. They're going to raise it again. and they're going to raise it again up until
they get 70 to 85% occupancy, which, you know, I thought the city was spending over $400,000 on a study to research what to do uh with parking demand and have new technology and they did all this
verbiage. Um, but it was just a hidden way to extract more money from people's pockets. Now, just to show you how ridiculous this comment, this um idea is besides throwing bananas around. Um just think about how they got the data. It
was garbage in, garbage out. Not only did they purposely take out the word parking of the study because they didn't want people to think of curb space as parking, but they made sure that the types of people promoting the study are the ones that agree with their idea.
Now, in context, that's like doing a survey on the sexiest man alive and giving only two options, Kevin Davis and Michael Russo. And the only people that can do the survey are people that have dated me. So now that wouldn't be
fair. You know, you need uh something. You know, it's a ridiculous point, but you need it's not nice to Mike. He that's why he has a lot of charisma. But it just shows you what you get when you do a bias survey. Now,
if you apply dynamic pricing to other government services, let's say we did it for the playground because people say, "Oh, people pay so much to park in garages. Why not charge them nowhere to park on the street?" Okay, people pay $7 to bring their kids to the play pen in
the hive. So, why not charge $7 to go to Church Square Park? And then we do surge pricing after school from 3:00 to 5:00 pm. So for the slides, it'd be maybe you charge $5 to go down the slide at Church Square Park. You know, you want to make
money as a government. You want to dynamically price our playgrounds. So you have $5 to go down the slide. Then you have your surge pricing from 3:00 to 5:00 p.m. after school hours. You you make it $8 to go down the slide. You put in your metro card or sorry your Apple
Pay or your credit card uh before you can go down the slide and then as a sensor whenever people go wee you want going down the slide you raise the price up another $2 until no one starts using it. When did the purpose of government become about extracting as much money as possible from people for using their
services? Are we going to use dynamic pricing for our public school system that you have to pay extra money to get a good desk? Maybe for not willing to pay extra money for the public school system. Maybe you get a teacher with only a high school diploma. You need to pay more for someone with a master's degree. Why not? Everybody else who
wasn't going to school is subsidizing it. So, just think about how ridiculous it is. Uh because we're watching. Uh let me just pick up my bananas. Just say no to dynamic pricing. Thank you, Mr. Davis. Patricia Waiters.
Patricia waiters 15 church towers. I like to bring facts, okay? So I won't be misconstrued. When I talked about the eight, I'm I'm talking about number eight with the housing authority redevelopment and this is for the fair share housing people too. If we want to
start talking about rents and amounts and legal, what's legal and what's not, I got a note Thursday, Thursday before last on my door and I have not lived in church towers more than seven months. It's telling me that
my rent was being increased the next day with bells on. I went to CDA because see, I'm not having it and I'm awake, too. So, when you want to talk about amounts, that's another issue. And I wasn't here putting my energy in that. I'm putting my energy
about people not being displaced. I'm going to give you names and numbers of my family members and relatives that lived in Holland Gardens almost all life and yes, they was displaced. Okay? So, I don't like when people try to call me a
liar cuz I will bring facts. Now, when I said my godaughter moved down by 440 by the Old Jersey City State College, they she lived in Lafayette Village. They told them the same thing. meeting after meeting after meeting. And what's bothering me and what I'm coming up here
saying this for when Michael said it three times, you got to the commissioners did vote this one vote that one vote again. Like today we see number eight Ruben Ramos and uh I know you Mr. Cohen was going to vote for Carmen because it's in Hobok and I
learned lately it's about who like who. I don't care if y'all don't like me and don't pick me. I'mma stay involved anyway. But I want the people that's watching this that love Pat Waiters that stop me in the street. Who should we vote for? Guys, wake up again because
I'm going to stay involved. I was told I'm not on the housing authority. This is for members of the public, okay? I'm not on the housing authority. I'm not liked and I don't have the votes. So, see, this is how the whole city ran. So, if y'all think it's only a packact to me as a resident living here since
1962, it attacks them, too. And I feel so bad. And everybody in housing authority, I'm not playing. Listen to me guys that want me so bad. Pat, why you can't be on HHA? Cuz my own elected officials, city councilmen that y'all go
play on the vulnerable and weak and get they vote and give them bingo, Mr. Cohen and dinners and cookies and cakes. See, y'all can't do that with Paters. I tell a politician, what you going to do for me after that? It ain't about material things. It's about a quality of life, a
place to park, affordable housing, safe streets. That's what I want from y'all. Okay? So, when you're not this politician and y'all not giving me a vote and you think you hurting me, you hurting the people that live down there. And then you knock on their door talking
about, "Hey, vote for me. Look at our city. Look what shape we in." All of y'all was council people. That's why we in this shape. And I didn't want to lose focus. I'm sorry. I'm here for my dear good friend. Would y'all keep pulling this man's salary off
the agenda is wrong. Put yourself in his shoes with mortgage to pay, rent to pay, kids to feed, colleges to pay for. But y'all playing politics again. Again. Please stop already.
Michael Russo, I talked to you earlier about an incident happened and I noticed people waited at the last minute and didn't show up. I want to thank you because you did pick up the phone in extreme. When I say emergency, Mr. Do, you put two things on here for new business and you got a star by it saying
emergency. Mike, you should have did that. Now that I see it, we could have did that. This is serious. A incident happened in the school district. I'm going to let your colleague share it with you because I trust him when I called him and it's serious. It is serious. Serious enough. I don't
even want to get emotional cuz I'm a staff member and I work there. I'm a security guard and I am the first line of defense. So, I'm here tonight to tell you everybody that's watching this that's in the district, you in good hands with All State cuz Pat Waiters
ain't having it. I've been in every district this morning. You could pull a videotape and see me out there with the gloves ready to rock and roll. Protecting all of y'all safety. Safety is my first line of defense. Lead the politics out. All of our kids in that
district, some of our kids, students, that's my family members, that's teachers. Hey, all of us is concerned what happened today in Hoboken. Guys, I know y'all watch social media. This is serious. And stop intimidating people.
if they come out and speak up, they're going to be threatened. They got to feel like they going to lose their job and be retaliated against. Cuz see, I'm the fall guy. That's why I'm here. I'm speaking for everybody that's tossing and turning tonight wondering if we going to be alive when we get to our job
or our school desk tomorrow. So, I'm wrapping it up, council president. And I'm And thank you, too, okay, for putting up with me cuz I can get real emotional cuz this is the passion I have for Hoboken. This is the passion and I've been doing this for years because I love the
people. Do what I ask you, Mike, please and take care of that. Okay, I will. Thank you. And and chief, I'm sorry. We going to keep praying for you that they finally put it on the agenda and pass your salary. You deserve to be the chief. Thank you, Mr. Waiters.
Uh Gil Leiny, was that close? Leiny. Hi. Hi everyone. Trouble already. Just wait. This is the beginning. Hi everyone. Uh my name is Gil Leani. I'm a member of uh
two Marine View Plaza, right? So look, I don't want to belabor um our point here, but I think everyone knows kind of what's been going on with Marine View. Um, look, on March 27th, this council, members of this council plus the administration kind of rallied around in in great celebration and
celebrated that Marine View agreed to fall under Hobok and rent control, right? And we all clapped and said, "Great, great, great. Okay, excellent. We stand now today with a looming date of June 30th is my understanding, all of our understanding of the day that Marine
View must officially be under rent control and register all of these units. And I want to say we've met with several members of this council and you guys have been great and thank you for giving us your time. Um, unfortunately since March 27th, we haven't had any communication from the city. We haven't had any communication from members of
the council. We have not been told what's going on. And what we have been seeing or or trying to ascertain is what's happening behind closed doors between corporation council, specifically Brian Aloy and his team and Marine View Plaza. We're all in the
dark. We've been told by Andrew Sobel's office contradictory facts over and over again. We have been told that a rent search charge uh sorry, an income search charge would not be included in our base rent calculation. We were then told by Vanessa Falco that it will be involved
uh in our calculations. We were then told by other members of the of the council that it won't be. We're very confused. We met with Vanessa Falco and and the mayor just the other week and there was still more confusion here. So I stand here with many other members of our community representing everyone
including the many members of our under the many underserved members of our community. We need your help. What's going on guys? I have a letter signed from the mayor and I'm sorry, actually signed signed from Brian Aoya and corporation council that told us that as of April 12th,
2024, Marine View was under Hoboken rent control. We then spoke with Vanessa Falco just the other week who said, "No, that's not the case. Actually, all the rent all the rent increases in 2024 are going to be allowable." We feel as a community that there are clandestine
meetings happening between Corporation Council and Marine View that directly undermine our best interest. And as we sit here with no representation, no standing, no no real hand right in this game. And all of a sudden, June 30th is
going to roll around. We're going to get letters that tell us this is what your rent is and that's going to be it. We're not involved. We're not informed. And guys, we've met with so many of you individually. We thank you for your time, but we're not there yet, right, Paul? I mean, we sat there. I know you're trying to work on this. And I
hope everybody understands we have specific language that Erica drafted that we're trying to get in front of you guys to actually vote to ensure that we can really futureproof these laws and actually change the rent control law to ensure that we're not going to we're not going to be put or other members of our
community aren't going to be put in a position where they cannot afford their new rents. We are running out of time. We're just about 30 days away. How are we going to get this done? Right. June 4th, you're voting on the budget. When are we going to be when are we going to
get a chance to actually have this fixed? Because come June 30th, the feeling is that you guys, the administration, they're going to wash their hands of this, move on, and everyone's going to have to adjudicate this individually. And we are trying so so hard to make sure that that doesn't
happen. I mean, Tiffany, we sat there and told you from the bottom of my hearts, you know, what's going on, what's happening. Name, we name names, people specifically, right, Mike, we did the same thing, right? We talked about exactly what we went through, what you guys went through. We sat there in your office, right? We talked about
specifically what we're trying to do. I don't even want to get into the warehousing. I don't want to get into the retaliation. I don't want to get into the maintenance problems and the health and safety issues. That's for a different conversation. We have 432 units. This is an election year. We all
know it is, right, Emily? We sat and we talked about this directly. What's affecting this? We need help. We need direction. We need to know what is happening because we truly feel like our best interests, the tenants's best interests are not being served by the
tenant advocate and are not being served by corporation counsel. And we do not want to be a casualty honestly of an election year in a transitory governmental year in Hoboken. We cannot be collateral damage. Now I say this as probably one of the newest members of
Marine View Plaza. So take it all with a grain of salt. I've been there for 5 years and I'm still one of the newest members. That that being said, I'm here to speak for those who can't speak on their behalf. I'm here to stand here in front of you guys and say we need to get
this done. So, I really hope that this is going to spur everybody sitting here to make sure that this gets done and that we can actually make sure that we're futurep proofed and that we're ready to go. Thank you guys for your time. Thank you. Thank you very much. Erica Jacobson,
I won't touch anything. Good evening. My name is Erica Jacobson and I've lived in Marine View Plaza for nearly a decade. And from the mo Thank you. And from the moment I moved in, I was welcomed into a strong and supportive community and I'm here
tonight because I care very deeply about protecting it. I'm incredibly disappointed in this council. I share draft language to address the incomebased search charge with several of you six weeks ago. And this issue was initially brought up during the first meeting with the tenant advocate back in
December, a meeting that many of you attended. The tenant advocate has changed their position on a number of issues, particularly this one, and there is no consistent advice being provided by their office. So, I really think that in the future, their contract should be
re-evaluated and reviewed. For weeks, we've been calling attention to how this search charge impacts residents and how it's directly in conflict with the spirit of rent control. We've met with many of you and you voiced your support for an update to
the rent control ordinance to exclude the income searchcharge from the base rent. Yet, it was removed from tonight's agenda. We're now being told that the city's attorneys only recently began investigating where those search charge payments actually go. And this is not good governance. It's a breakdown of
your responsibilities and it's deteriorated our trust in all of you. I sincerely hope that no one in here intends to use Marine View as leverage during this election season because I'm tired of my home being a political talking point that gets attention every
four years and then forgotten. If this isn't resolved before summer, then every single one of you will have failed my community, my neighbors, and my family. We're not asking for miracles. We're asking for improvement, transparency, and basic
accom basic accountability because we all deserve better. Thank you, M. Jacobson. Uh Ernest Boyd. Hey, good evening, y'all. I'm just going to echo um what my two friends have said. There seems to be there seems to
be an accountability real a real issue with accountability because like Erica said, she handed in this language a month ago and nothing has happened. And I so I think what we need from you or from someone and this is not something I know and I say this out of all respect
but in my industry in the film industry if I was going to do some if I was told hopefully that something would happen in 4 weeks and it did not happen I would be homeless right now. I would never work again. And so it seems like I know
whoever was supposed to get this language to you by tonight, I'm sure they have a lot of things to do, but it seems that this should have happened. So we're deeply disappointed. We don't know where to focus our anger. Um, and that's
what we're having trouble decide like like trying to figure out. So, I think hopefully we can figure out from you or from someone else after this where that accountability lies and whom we can speak to to remedy this very soon. I'm
going to be brief and that's going to be it because those two really summed up everything that I think needs to be said. Thank you. Thank you, M. Uh, James Fiser. All right. Yeah. So, James Fischer, I live in One Marine View. I've lived in One Marine View my entire life. Um, I
appreciate everyone that we've met with so far and trying to get these things passed. Um, but it is still disappointing and it's very disappointing to um to get a letter, multiple letters that from the city administration that every single member
of the city council signed on to essentially saying that um uh Marine View was under rent control on X date in 2024 and then in March of 2025, seemingly through corporation
council, a settlement is made and the city's position flips and says, "Nope, now it's just now, as of March 2025, you're under Hoboken rent control laws. So any rent increases that were made in the years prior or even the 3 months of
2025, we can't really help you with that. Sorry." and to hear basically crickets from all of the city council members that uh signed on to those letters, those letters that had one position, now the city's position has essentially flopped. And not to hear
anything from any of you on like has your position changed. Has are you willing to back us up uh in that regard in terms of these seemingly illegal rent increases? There were the city's position, tenant advocates position at one point. So, that's just very
disappointing to hear the radio silence there. Um, additionally, I do think for anyone on the council who is going to be running for mayor, I think it's going to be very important for um, whoever becomes mayor in this town to seriously think about who they put forth as uh,
corporation council, who they want in that position because that position seemingly has a lot of power in gatekeeping, what gets set, what gets put on these agendas, where uh, where we stand with things. Um, so I I hope that
the the next mayor of this town really considers that and I hope it's someone who is highly invested in the community because they seemingly do wield a lot of power. Um, and then finally, as echoed by many people here, not just the Marine View residents, uh, the tenant advocate
in this town, I mean, they flip-flop a lot, a lot, a lot, a lot. And it's very frustrating to deal with them. someone who is who by the very definition of tenant advocate is supposed to be advocating for us seems to advocate for us and then backtrack on that real
quick. Um so whenever their contracts up I hope this council or whoever's in charge of that uh really considers uh maybe getting someone else new in there because they don't seem to really have the tenants back and they don't really seem to sorry to say but know what they're doing in terms of like taking a
stand. Uh, thank you guys. Thank you. Namibia Daddio. Donado. Donado. Well, it's D O N A D I O. D. I'm going with Daradio.
I'm sorry. Hello, Nibia. Hello. Um, President, Councilman Doyle. Um, hello members of the council. um and neighbors. I am here today with with um reflections and an
invitation. First, I want to echo the the thoughts, concerns, and hopes of my neighbors who have spoken today that have their eye and their um their livelihoods uh thinking about what is going to happen in Marine View as a
building, but also uh what is happening around housing and stability um throughout the city. I would like to briefly share u a success story because I think it's really important to to imagine the world
that we wish to see and remember the way that we can get things done. when I have shared with you in the past that I and my family went through a really really difficult um eviction case. Uh the third lawyers that we went to was the tenant
and landlord advocate. And it was a a very special opportunity where when we went to the city for for counsel, they actually helped us to realize that our case was very
straightforward, very open and shut where private council told us something very different. And so I want to commend the city and the initiation of that resource because for me it absolutely changed my life um my family's life and
has allowed for me right having stable housing to now return to community and begin to offer energy um and ideas uh to the town where people who are in education and artists and just in industries that um are not like high
income. like we we need affordable housing to be able to contribute in the ways that we're meant to here in our community. So, thank you for that resource. And I would uh also echo that. Um, I'd like to know how to be able to
have uh the advocate be able to not just take on one case because I think at that point they were taking on a case a year, but how can many citizens be able to utilize that resource? I'm interested in
like what's the funding like, what's the line? Um, and so maybe that's something that we can work on together. And in this line of thinking about housing and community, my invitation tonight is um in the last few months, I've had the
opportunity to be part of a national organization called the Inheritance Theater Project that is invited to different cities around the country to work on bridge building work in siloed communities. Uh this the project has at
this point been in Hoboken since September and they've we've spoken to over 400 people here in the city all about their experiences with Hoboken and particularly their experiences with water. What this conversation with
different communities has brought about has been um the the idea has been to to bring those stories to life in the form of a show and the themes that have surged have been people are concerned about uh
housing, people are concerned about their water conditions and um and class. So this show is going to be come going up now at the end of May, May 30th, 31st, and June 1st. And we're inviting
community to come. The last day is also going to be a block party where we're inviting community to kind of represent their resource and who they are so that they can meet each other. Um, I'm really excited about this project because I
think it's one of the ways that uh life informs art. um and that we can actually come together uh to be in creation of what we wish to see. I'd like to thank uh the members of the city council who have actually helped to bring this project forth. Councilwoman Emily Jabbor
has been part of bringing that here and it's it's really dream work to be able to do that. And we've also seen support um uh council meno came to one of our dialogues. Um uh we got to update councilman Russo during the Hoboken
housing authority meeting. Um and many of you have expressed that you will share to your communities, right? Councilman um Phil Cohen Ramos u Councilman Ramos that you'll share with your communities about what's happening.
Um, and so we um, someone will email you and has and I hope that we see many neighbors showing up to our show and that we continue to to build together. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. So, no other members of the public have
signed up to speak. Motion to close public portion. Second. All those in favor? I I know a number of you are probably want to speak. If if you'll indulge me just for a sec. I I do want to say that in
defense, you know, the corporation council evaluates the law and applies the law. And so what what has been and I'm relatively new to this uh latest chapter, but um there are a lot of facts here and there's research that has to be
done and I don't know that it's it's accurate to say that the corporation council has power and is negotiating things away and flip-flopping. I think it's a question when you're looking into a 50 plus year old agreement which has a duration and you have to figure out when
it was effective how long you know initially it was in uh 73 was the date and so we thought 50 years later was was 23 and then it was determined 24. So that it's a complex issue. It's not a
question of of flip-flopping and negotiating behind closed doors with the landlord. It's just figuring out the right answer so that if you know whatever decision that is made, we won't be sued and you won't be put in jeopardy and neither will the city. So with that,
you know, we're very cognizant and I don't want to say too much because uh others I think are more knowledgeable, but we're very aware of the June 30th date. There's two two meetings in June, the 4th and whatever 18th. uh now the
16th which so there's time to make a change um and this we all know the spirit and the intent of the rent control law and so we're dealing with an unusual piece with the income searchcharge which income is irrelevant
to rent control so but anyway I I do you want to clarify why those two dates uh for that what the two date changes there's the first one was the law adoption, right? And the second date is when the actual first payment was made,
the mortgage. So that's the discrepancy that we just discovered recently with the two dates, the law being adopted in one year and then the first check to the city being made the following year when the building was occupied and then making their first payment, right? That's what we discovered
recently. That's why and the pilot agreement was somehow extended beyond 50 years. So that kind of screws up something. So, it's I mean I I I'm not going to I'm not going to make uh I I do think that the tenant advocate has
generally I think the answer was he was given certain facts. He gave it made a decision and then he learned more facts and said, "Oh, that's maybe my initial re read on this is wrong." It wasn't flip-flopping. Uh it's just getting all
the answers. But I apologize for taking up too much time. Um, I know that Councilman President Zano wanted to speak and and others. Excuse me. Oh, I actually Well, why don't we why don't we just talk talk this through and then we'll do the new
business uh rather than But thank you. So, I think there's one thing to look at here that this as we know the complexity of this. It's not easy to say this happened and we're done. Uh, this is the new rules. A lot of the
there is some that June 30th date is kind of the cliff and there was a legal agreement between Marine View and the city that things would take place in that process. The language that you guys were looking
for is of course we have to vet that from corporation council which we've gone back and forth a few times. Uh well I wouldn't say more I'd say more than a few times. Uh and I had to I don't know if the right word is argue. I think the
word is debate or discuss. Um whether wording could be very simplistic or it had to be a little more involved. We have to run this through subcommittee. So that runs into another problem. So this is all timing. So the last time we didn't have all the pieces
of the information for the last meeting um and then it pushed to two weeks and then we had a we tried to get this through subcommittee um in a in a uh meeting on Friday. On Friday's meeting, there was some information of a rock
overturned uh to say can't say it any better way that had us questioning something and that as we look on the budget, the number that we see for that the city receives for the income search charge is
X. We then found out some other things that are listed or that was made known to us is that there may be more money, there may not be more money or that maybe pieces go to different places. So before we can vote on a law up here, we don't
want to expose the city to any more litigation. Uh that'll be the first thing I'll ever say is is I want to I want to mitigate litigation period. So, the subcommittee had a discussion uh and felt that it was best that we hold this
off to the next meeting till we get those questions answered. And again, it's not for a lack of trying. It's a lack of getting responses sometimes. And I don't want to say that government's slow. However, there was debates that had happened and there was pieces of
information that were either phone calls were made, they had to wait for them to come back, uh things of that nature. So now we're at a point where yes, it was on the agenda. Um once we had the subcommittee and found out this other piece of information, uh we are now researching that to find out where we
can be and hopefully once we get that information, uh it'll be on the uh agenda uh come in the beginning of June. Very cogn of cognizant of that I've been explaining to everybody is that we want to get this done before we get to that
cliff on the 30th so that it's written in there. So, it's not a for a matter of lack of trying. It's just that this is a very complex issue. And unfortunately, it seems every day we find another piece of information. I think as as council president said, we find a piece of information because of this. It's an old
dock. It's an old agreement. Uh but again, we want to dot our eyes and cross our tees because we don't want to come back and have you guys again. Oh, here we go again. We're a political football again. We want to close the door, finish this, and get it done.
So is a in a nutshell. Um I can't emphasize more that you're you're not going unnoticed. There is no closed dooror meetings. Uh there's emails that go back and forth that you can Oprah that you can see that I've had with corporation council uh that you know
I've been pushing and however uh there's no excuse cuz there has been some people that have left the administration that were a little bit more versed in this. There are other people that need to get up to speed on it. It's a little tough from that standpoint, but from the lawyer standpoint, the piece that we
found out on Friday, it it held us from putting that on the agenda tonight. Thank you, Councilman. Uh, are we I'm not Pardon. Yeah. I is is there is there a a general though commitment that
we're going to have something on the next agenda period like the city is solving for it? And if I can maybe take away what you guys said, it sounds like there's three main issues. One is when does the rent control clock start? What
is that date? Whether it's 2024 or now. The second is whether or not the income sir charges are included in base rent for purposes of rent control. Um and the third which is more complicated has to do with
whether or not the or where the income search charge payments are going whether 100% of it's going to the city or a portion of it is going somewhere that's not the city. And those or to the state, right? Those are three those are kind of the three categories that are up in the air. But we are going to solve all of
those within the June 30th time frame. No matter what, even if by next we're trying to find that out by the next meeting. Yep. Right. But but in within this time frame, it will be solved. That's our control should not represent the
law. We are cognizant of that. All right. So are we uh can we finish our meeting? No. Motion. We essentially suspended our agenda to so you don't have to wait another 20 minutes to you know but to close public motion to
close. We already did. Okay. Yeah. So we're on to new business. Um and thank you. Uh we can I think handle these together. It's a resolution. Uh Councilman President, do you want to or
Okay. I guess you want Okay. uh for for the council here and for the public. This is to allow work to be done for the next month or so on the uh Consiglia had the construction management company.
They were asked because of the closure of Jersey A. They were asked they were do going to do this during the day but they would have to dig into the road and you know the nightmare would happen on Observer Highway during the day. So they had asked can you do this at night and they were just told earlier this week to
kind of do that. They were having some discussions but on Thursday they were let known that they had to do something and realized that this is starting on the 27th and our next meeting is on June 5th so it doesn't really work out. Uh so
they were looking uh to basically work at night. They had to from my understanding is connect sewer pipes and actually put a manhole cover in observer highway. So again, if we did that during the day, uh it would be an absolute nightmare with what we're dealing with already. So that's what this emergency
resolution is for. Thank you, Councilman. Mr. Fina, call the vote. You got it. On both uh one and NB2. Got it. Councilman Cohen, I. Counciloman Fischer, yes.
Counciloman Jabbor, yes. Councilman Preszano, hi. Councilman Cano, Councilman Ramos, hi. Councilman Russo. I, President Doyle, motion to close. Second. Second. All in favor? I I back to gentlemen.