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want to do start it it's really so mik Mike just see you know that our planner who's filling in tonight is stuck in traffic so we don't even have a cell phone for him only our regular planner who we just spoke to she's G she's trying to call him on the
phone no it's actually Mr yes so our our Reg plan we just called uh Kate Keller and she's trying to get a hold of him but we're just a little bit of limbo we may start with the engineer if that's if the chair
wants to to do yeah that's fine okay well we're going to open up the meeting and then we'll uh you have a plan yeah you do I wonder why you're here okay test test is all the videos on you're not going to go until we get our planner
sorry okay call the meeting to order for March 5th 2025 go ahead I hereby announce pursuant to section five of the open public meetings act that adequate notice of this meeting has been transmitted on January 14
2024 by the board administrative officer to the Asbury Park Press the Two River Times the Township Clerk and has been posted in the meeting room and in the entrance hall in town hall all pursuant to section
of the open public meeting roll call Mr Berkeley present Miss campus here miss Gerard here Mr Lani absent Mr marzola absent Mr
G poo I'm sorry Mr oranos here and M Castello here and Mr Fram absent and for the record uh Lori is from home on a speaker phone and watching a live video phone so she's here basically that's
correct okay uh let's stand for a pledge of allegiance and then remain standing for a moment of silence for our military First Responders and PD I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible liberty and justice for all please remain standing okay the minutes let's uh move that to the end and go on to item number one public
hearing Sten and Jennifer it's on it was on go ahead are you our planner right there sit down the5 Steven and Jennifer Rivera 97 Stillwell Road Block 10 lock 21 in the
R40 a Zone zoning board variance 20 24-7 single family dwelling with variances thank you is there uh do you see any conflicts from anybody here anybody have any
conflicts with the applicants okay so we have uh for Jean we're GNA s Angela as an as a member full member okay I think that's the main stuff okay so you have anything more you
want to say what about all all the paperwork work in order I Noti that's correct okay it's all yours thank you Mr chairman and board members my name is Michael sty I'm an attorney with offices at 16 Cherry stre Farm Road in Middletown Township and I have the
pleasure of representing Stephen and Jennifer Rivera this evening is the mic on a little red light yeah the red lights's on just come closer just need to get it closer closer closer fine thank you okay so uh the Rivas are here
this evening and I also have with me AJ gero who will be presiding or presenting testimony as an engineer and also uh Barbara enen who will be presenting testimony as a professional planner uh this is a request for variance relief
for the Riveras to demolish an existing aged and in not too great shape uh building and to build their own home uh to um so they can move in living in Hell the property is at 97 Stillwell
Road it's known as block 10 Lot 21 it is an undersized lot in the r40a zone it has an area of 11,000 square ft where 40,000 ft is the standard it's in a little cluster of smaller Lots along
Stillwell Road and uh you'll hear more about that from AJ when he gets up and goes through his his plan uh there is a currently a one and a half story uh small 984 squ foot home with a detached
shed those uh those buildings are in dilapidated condition uh the Rivera purchased his property last year with the intention uh initially to uh possibly renovate the building and expand it however after Consulting with the their architect determined that the
building really was not savable uh so that they're proposing a new structure Al together uh the the building itself will be approximately uh 3,000 square feet in total area it will consist of a
basement of a first floor uh which will have uh a entry entry foyer along with uh a living area an open space living area and dining area with kitchen uh and a computer room and one bathroom the
second floor will have three bedrooms a bathroom a master bath uh and a laundry room and then there will be an attic as well that will be unfinished so this property as I indicated uh is an undersized lot of record and it is an elongated rectangle
in shape you'll hear about the existing non-conformities uh from Mr greo when he testifies but it's not only an undersized lot but it also lacks Frontage in existing condition of 50 feet where 100 ft is required and a lot withth of 55 ft where 180 ft is required
those are existing non-conformities that were not changing uh but they do result in uh what we would argue to you this evening uh creates a bit of a hardship with respect to the property uh with regard to the variances that we're looking for new variances
we're looking for a front yard setback of 18.4 feet where 50 ft is required we're looking for lot coverage of 20 of 35% where 25% is permitted and we're looking for a one side yard setback of 9.2 ft where uh 12.5 ft is required and
that is a a new variance that we were just was brought to our attention in your planner's letter uh we had thought that 92.2 feet was compliant and she directed us to the area of the ordinance section of the ordinance that put us up
to 12.5 so we are asking for uh 9.2 where 12.5 is required uh as I indicated this property is in the r40a zone the surrounding properties are a mix of sing single family residential homes agricultural uses and the oakill farm
market is at the intersection of stillw Road in Crawford's Corner Road uh and as I indicated the subject property is in a small cluster of smaller undersized Lots uh and there are some larger Lots along along the southerly lot on the side of
still well on the opposite side of the street um Jennifer and Steven purchased the property in 2024 as they indicated and it's their desire to uh remove the existing structures on the property and to build a new home for themselves uh indicated to you what the that home
would be uh consist of uh and I'm going to have Jennifer Rivera come up and just briefly Identify some photographs that uh I've already passed up to your secretary uh as well as the architectural renderings of the proposed
structure that they want to build uh the variances as I indicated are driven by the undersized lot and the long narrow shape of the lot We Believe those conditions do create a hardship to construct a reasonably sized home uh with a modern uh a modern home code
compliant with the garage and septic system and we're also proposing a storm water management system as well which Mr greo will talk to you about uh and we also believe that the Rivera plan will meet the both the positive and negative criteria for the grant of variance
relief that being said I would ask uh first that uh Jennifer Rivera born uh so that she can give brief testimony as to these two exhibits that has been passed out to the board why don't we swear everybody and
who's coming going to be speaking so AJ we're to swear everyone in Mike yeah Mike we swear including our professionals so and our professionals everyone swear or tell the all truth nothing but the truth for the record all Witnesses have been sworn included the board's
profession so we'll go through um I'm sorry you will need to why don't you sit down and she will sit next to you and you can have both mics and also through chair I would ask the attorney to Mark um the exhibits maybe A1 A2 because they were not
submitted originally thank you uh I'm I'm going going to have her identify them okay that's so Jennifer you're you're the owner of the property and it's your wish to remove the existing structures and to uh build a new residence new home for you and your
family is that right correct and I'm going to show you a set of pictures photographs and these are photographs that that you folks took of the property and when did you take the photographs it's it's not
on hello uh I took the pictures right before before I handed all the paperwork in for the variants okay and do these photographs and that was sometime last fall yes and these photographs accurately depict what the condition of the property was at that time yes and
they con consisted of a residence at the front of the property that is shown on page one and and page two and the shed which is in the rear of the property correct and these photographs accurately depict what you what you took back in the in the
fall yes I would ask that that be exhibit for record there there's three pages with um 11 that's correct just we'll do that A1 Mar as that whole
package and Jennifer I'm going to show you a document with four pages uh are these the architectural drawings for the home that you're proposing yes and uh these drawings were made at your Direction with your architect yes and you initially thought that you might
renovate this existing structure and and enlarge it but determined after speaking with the architect that that was not going to be feasible correct thank you I would ask that this be exhibit A2 can I ask a question uh you said this is
approximately 3,000 square feet or something you said the square foot area of the of this project correct and is that include the attic or is that just the first floor and the second floor it's the first and second floors is the attic something that can be finished
this height for somebody to walk up there and have a finished area can you we got we'll yeah well okay we'll we'll save it for later ar oh that's the architect no that's not the architect okay we we had
hope to have the architect here but he has the pleasure of being in Florida on vacation at this point well we'll hold off on question and that's all that I have for M Rivera okay at this time I would ask that Mr greo who has been sworn uh
identify himself and put his credentials on the record you have to keep it close within three inches of your mouth believe or that my name is AJ guito um I'm a principal engineer with two River engineering at 265 Route 34 Colts Neck
New Jersey I'm a licensed professional engineer in the state of New Jersey and I've testified in front of this board before your licens is currently in good standing yes it is okay and have you testified before other planning boards and zoning boards throughout the the county and state yes throughout the
county and state have you ever testified in Homedale I have numerous occasions okay AJ can you tell the board what you did in order to prepare for this hearing this evening sure we were provided architectural plans uh for a new
dwelling on the property um prior to doing our engineering work uh because the site did need a new septic system we performed four soil borings on the property two for a septic system one for a foundation for the dwelling and and one for a storm waterer management
system um the soil borings are all favorable for septic um and permeable soils for uh a stor waterer management system and then we provide a a plot plan and septic design plan um as might kind of describe the property it's it's a
little unique it's it's long and narrow it's it's only 55 ft wide um the house is uh about 26 and 1/2 ft wide um at its widest uh portion um the plan was of this 3,000 ft dwelling which the
footprint is is actually a little less than than than 1,600 square feet so it's a modest size house um we did have a a detached garage also um so that you know the three bedrooms upstairs and and then about 1,600 ft on on the first floor so
it was a detached two-car detached garage that because of the shape of the property that had to go to the rear of of the property and the garage is the two-car garage is a requirement under the ordinance is it not that's correct okay uh and exhibit A1 that um Jennifer Rivera
testified do have you been to the property I have uh and these photographs accurately depict what the conditions of the property are at present they do and can you tell the board the
characteristics of the property that cause you to have to design this in a certain way sure um basically just the the size and the shape of the property it's only 11,000 square ft in area and it's and it's very narrow um having the
detached garage um requires a driveway um obviously to go um to the rear of the prop property um so holding 5 ft off one property line and only putting a 10-ft wide driveway um that only leaves about 30 about 40 ft left uh for the actual
building construction um septic systems a three-bedroom septic system required a disposal field of about 816 Square F feet um and there's lots of constraints that have to do with a septic system they need to be 10 ft from property lines 15 ft from a slab or 25 ft from a
basement 50 feet from other prop from other uh septic systems 100 ft from Wells um so really this the septic was either to go in the front of the property or the rear of the property um putting it in the front of the property sort of forced everything way into the rear of the property um and it just
didn't really have enough room to have a a dwelling in a detached garage um plus with a long driveway um it added to the lock coverage is that also problematic with the utilities coming from the street yes it's that muchow longer the utilities and and whatnot
also so it was decided that the proper place for the septic would be to the rear of the property that's correct and that's where it's placed on this plan yes and the garage uh is placed in front of the septic area is that correct yep
and we tried to make that as as far back to the rear as we could um but we like I said we had to hold at least 15 feet from the disposal field okay and that then pushed the building itself the home to the front
that's correct to push the building to the front uh currently um the building has a a like a 4 and a half foot Portico and then steps coming down off the front so the 18.35% the uh the street line the actual
pavement line is is how how it's between nine and 10 feet right so to the house is approximately 38 ft from the street line that's correct thank you um can you briefly tell the board uh about the storm waterer management that you devis
for this plan sure um as you sort of did a typical storm waterer management plan that that we would do for for you know small projects like this um the project is not what they call a major development um it disturbs less than an acre it doesn't increase the impervious
coverage um by more than a quarter of an acre so we really look at what's the increase of impervious coverage um and then we design a system an underground system to handle that so we calculate what the volume of that difference is um we perform soil borings to test the
permeability of the soil to see where the seasonal High Ground order is and then we provided um two storm Chambers um underground storm chamber sitting on Stone um and then we collect all the the roof leaders from the impervious dwelling to to go into uh this system so
it'll actually reduce the rates of runoff to surrounding property owners and provide groundwater infiltration um which is encouraged to provide groundwater quality so you you've had an opportunity to review the board Engineers letter have you not I have and
he did ask that we provide testimony regarding the impact downstreaming on adjacent properties and with respect to percolation uh as your storm water design uh been constructed in order to address those issues in satisfa in a satisfactory manner it
has and the uh engineer also requested what was going to be the driveway material uh currently it's Stone uh and that the applicant was considering replacing that with an asphalt surface yeah so it's it's proposed it's
your typical asphalt driveway surface is proposed can we put a can we can I stop you a minute certainly I I don't like to hear the whole thing I'd like to take time for some of the board members to ask some questions on some of what we you've talked about and we've covered a lot of stuff so um I'm taking this
opportunity to allow the board members if you to ask a couple questions on what we heard so far especially the variances the placement of the house why place where it is why the septics in the back does anybody have any qu concerns and questions about that I
want one question is there currently an existing foundation on this on the current home here the home is still up it's still there's a foundation a basement like a a concrete basement I'm not i' I've never been in the house that's trying to figure out the disturbance of the property itself if there already is a con if there is a
concrete foundation are you going to destroy that and rebuild a New Foundation I'm trying to figure out yes it's going to be totally raised on a new a New Foundation okay so there currently is no basement in that house I I I I don't think or
there won't be a basement in the house it'll be on that house will be constructed on SB not a b no basement there is a proposed basement in the new house yes well then that would change the septic requirements if you're going to put a basement in it won't it it's the septics are based on the number of bedrooms in the house um we need to
increase the size of a septic system if they have ejector pumps or things like that in the basement but there's no Plumbing or proposed in the basement can you I just confirm though is there is there an existing basement right now it looks like there's one look at the bud my client's not the owners are
saying it's a crawl space is that what the owner six foot basement okay we're gonna have come up and get some just come up and we swear in Mr the subject requirements going to swear you in swear air about to give us whole Tru yes just
St your name for the Steven Rivera so my question is what is the current existing foundational property like what what is there right now uh there's a poor it's a cinder block foundation and the height is about six
and a half feet in the basement right now okay okay okay I have a question um you have the setback on the existing house looks like over 50 fet am I correct you are over 50 feet it's uh
54.1 ft and where is the current septic system located uh I'm not sure where the current septic system is the the owner might know he he he seems to signaling it's in the rear of the house as well where where the current one is or is it going to be further back like
if you're looking at I maybe the map here will help be helpful if you could pull this big map up here and just kind of point to it maybe put up a raise it up in the air yeah pick it up pick it up and put it on the stand just okay great just so the whole board could see
this please we're just AJ let's mark that as A3 and just describe it quick so A3 is just a a colored rendering of of the site plan it's blown up at a 1 to 10 scale so it's basically the same plan you have just just colored um it doesn't
the existing house is in this area does isn't shown but sort of in this area you see it's concrete I think that was like the one of the old tanks but it's it's an old system so that right there where you're signaling is where the existing septic tank is the existing tank was yeah all
that is proposed to be removed okay and then you're proposing in the back of the property that big rectangular Square back there yes so much larger much larger a new 1 1250g uh two compartment septic tank is proposed as well okay okay so I'm always
my questions are not that I want to redesign this property it's more of reducing variances so you have a variance for the front sh yard setback you went very quickly and I don't remember the reason why you said the septic can't be in the front because if it was in the front it would eliminate
one variance it would and it would also make life easy later on when the septic people come to drain they don't have to go all the way in the back to get the into the to drain it out so um would be positive and I'm going to add to your
comments I think if there's any questions from the neighbors that this house won't be so far front of the other houses if the other houses are set back that this would be more aligned with the current housing situation on that street yeah because according to the picture they look like they were lined up I got
you um first about the the maintenance of of the septic system um really the maintenance is is pumping the septic time period Ally annually or or biannually as much as people can deal with um the septic tank is uh located about 15 ft from the proposed on the new
septic tank um and certainly that's accessible there's a driveway and their pump hoses they'll be able to pump that so it really if if the septic were in front it wouldn't really make a difference as to the ease of of of taking care of the septic system um if
we were we looked at putting the septic system in the front if the septic system was was in the front you're basically 10 ft off the property line the septic system can only be so big you try to obviously maximize how wide it can be so you can minimize how deep it has to go
but with the detached garage you need a driveway so it it would basically have to flip 90° and it would kind of take up more of a depth then we'd have to go 25 ft past this the disposal field for the dwelling because that's the minimum you
can put up so you saying asphal can't go on top of the fields it cannot no okay okay is that correct yeah okay but bringing the house back that much further May align with the the existing homes on that street so this wouldn't be sticking out as
much well if if you kind of just keep working backwards with the house has a deck and a garage um now the garage is really near the total rear of the property um the only way to get into the garage at that point would it would have to be sort of a a side entry garage just
because you're running out of of room to navigate a car through it um so we're over the lot we we requesting a lock coverage variance the just the added driveway if everything were shifted back whatever 30 ft um would add about a 5%
increase in the lock coverage so yeah we' we reduce one variance but we' be adding to another variance well I'm also thinking of the neighborhood how it's going to look under understandable so sometimes a variance is okay if it's going to be the good of the neighborhood
versus the indiv idual I I understand so does anybody have any other questions I mean that's kind of close to the street would we be able to get like maybe some numbers so if if it were moved to the front and then if the structure would have to be moved back I
think you mentioned it would have to be 20 feet back from where the where it would be in the ground 20 25 ft from the disposal field okay just I'm because I'm just trying to say like like what would be the number that were then from the let's see it'd probably be about 72 feet back
um which would be sort of further off the neighboring proper in the back than it is to the front Okay Lori has a question she's on the phone Lori you can go ahead and speak
now um the problem is I can't see the exhibit that you're all looking at if you could turn it sideways the camer that way it's on the site plan it's page uh two of the S plan package Lori you got to turn off your uh
your computer volume because we hear that camera yeah but she can look on her plans it's page two of your plans the site plan or survey can you see it there's three large um pictures of structures the
house is in the front the garage is off to the right with the driveway along the right and then in so I actually have a question so there's two different things about the septics what's in between the house and the garage and then the the septic field the tank is in the middle 1250 gallon tank the okay and then the
field the septic field is in a rear yeah it's it's basically one discharge line from the back of the house a 1,250 gallon tank and then a line that runs to the disposal field okay okay and then there's the garage and the
house Lori were you able to see that do you have any questions Lori I'm good now okay any other board questions before we move on go ahead is that the existing driveway onto the property it's it is on it's kind of right on the property line um but we're
proposing a new pave driveway the other driveway you're going to make it longer in other words I'm trying to figure out that's the driveway that current exists with the dwelling that's how you'd get on the property correct okay and excuse me for but why did you make a a detached
garage as opposed to putting the garage onto the house I mean maybe my clients could answer that they you know had designed um designed with the architect and this was the the design that they had come out up with I think they started with maybe trying to renovate the house and and then I wasn't really
privy to these discussions with them between them and their architect this was the design of a house that they felt you know could fit their needs and with a detached garage okay because if there is a concern about being too much to the front if you attach the garage and bring
the the dwelling back after all we're starting from scratch right it would it would yeah it would be a new a new dwelling obviously if the two the garage was on to the rear of the house because you could perhaps you know what we can't we're not going
to we shouldn't go into tell them how to redesign the house we're going to vote on what you given us we just suggest things because we're uncomfortable with it being close to the street understood okay and and it's a variance for that
and you got two other structures according to the to the street plan that are next door to look like the same size structures according to what I see here on the S plan and I just wondering how that's going to look brand new house pushed out from those two it's going to
look a little luid over there at least that's my feeling I don't have everybody else feels about that bill do you have any comments so far on things we've been talking about I wanted to speak to uh drainage whether the existing drainage pattern
and what's proposed I know you're you're mitigating for the increase in volume but what about where it's running off to it seems to be two points of analysis this is typically what I would do for plot plans but uh if if Mr White or the engineer you know request some
additional drainage we certainly could provide that um we're providing two two pits in the front of the house um the board your professionals felt that hey maybe two or a few more in the rear would would be appropriate we s I'd work with our engineer to come up with a a plan that that all right Mr G I was
looking to put on the record what's existing drainage pattern where's the site running off to and what what are you proposing with your proposed grading yeah I mean the the site sort of drains in two different directions it probably half the it's relatively flat there's not
a figure the there might be like a maybe a two or three fo grade change throughout the property but pretty much half the property drains to the front half the property sorry what is what's behind the house what's what's is there another house behind that or is that Farm property
behind that Farm property is it Farm okay so there's no no structures behind your house okay like I said if if the engineer has concerns we certainly work with them for their satisfaction Bill any other comments because I'm going to take it
over to the planer next I understand um basically you we're talking about the neighboring houses what are setbacks for the neighboring houses compared to what you're proposing so I don't the the I'm not sure about the house to the the West the house to the east it's about the
house is about 40t set back from the property line where our house is about 26 and2 ft so we're scking up about 14 ft at least from the house to the right I believe the house to the left is is fairly close to that um if you were to work backwards from
the front back then like I said it would probably you know it' be 40 we'd probably be 30 ft further back from that whatever that's worth I think that that's probably less of a concern if they were back further than being out as close to the street so
I I don't think people would compain most neighbors wouldn't complain about being set back further than their house I think it's just the fact of some neighbors are concerned about it sticking out closer to the street um how about our plan you have any comments on what we've been talking
about so far oh yeah so mostly to reflect the sentiment of what's being discussed thus far uh to provide some more clarity on what was said with regarding regarding the setbacks of adjacent properties so we have adjacent Lots here um of lots 20
and lots 22 and although they are both also under sized the front yard setbacks uh respectively for them are 50 feet and 35 feet whereas the applicant here is proposing 18.4 ft so I think generally to reflect the sentiment of the board
thus far during discussion um I think there needs to be some sort of uh happy medium between what's currently required of 50 fet and with the applicant is proposing of 18.4 feet to be more consistent with the general neighborhood especially with the two properties to
the uh East and West to be more consistent with what's existing in the surrounding areas and I have one more comment additionally uh to raise where the um our our review letter initially indicat at that the applicant was retaining uh the existing Stone driveway
whereas I believe it was just indicated now that the applicant is proposing a asphalt driveway correct so um I will defer on further comments regarding um storm water and drainage patterns to the board engineer but I do want to note that that would have an additional
impact regarding the proposed drainage patterns since given that stone and asphalt have different drainage patterns and therefore that would have impacts regarding the requested lot carbage variance and thank you for that I'm
question maybe the question is to you as well there was a comment before about the septic tank being in the front of the property with a black top can't be over the the the septic tank if it remains it could be over it could be over a septic tank you just have to put like a H20 a highway loaded septic tank
it's the disposal field itself can't be under aave surface okay because I was going to suggest if it maybe perhaps have retain the stone driveway so that you could have the driveway you couldn't you couldn't put the field over even a stone driveway okay so I'm I'm looking
at a Google street view of the three homes so I see the home to the right is going to be a single story with a brick front and then the home to the left of your residence is a twostory sided home
windows in the front uh so I'm just picturing your house is beautiful compared to what you have next door with all due respects so that's why it it not that it should be there because of the looks but it's going to stick out in
that neighborhood quite a bit being 18 feet from the front yard compared to where the other homes are because the other homes are all about even they all blend in together so your house is your house would be something unique compared to the other homes put it that way so
I'm uncomfortable with that being that close to the street and the way the house looks maybe if it was a one-story house that's different but this house is basically three stories high when you had the attic so it's going to be a big make a big statement on that street when anybody comes down that street it's not
going to blend in with the rest of the streetscape that's my feelings I don't know how the rest of the board feels yeah I think what you're hearing from us is I you know and again this is what you have to go back and decide is that we're going to not I mean it sounds
like we want the house set back further than what it currently is being proposed so I think that's well we don't have to let them do that they're going to propose what they want so if they want to leave it like this that's up to them we can't we're not telling you what to do I think our planner here too so I
think she'll have some additional Tes she may she may come up at any time that you think it's appropriate because that's why I stopped you because I knew this was a subject that bothered me and probably others and we were going into far away into it so the attor always put me up first they should
really I mean uh I mean if you want to I know it's out of order and and our attorney's probably saying he's derailed my whole order here and my momentum but um since we're in this subject and we're talking about this why don't we have your planner talk about it too and see
if she can uh works for me that's fine because I have our planner here too so go ahead AJ can you take that down though so the board can you just put it sideways like right onite side yeah so we can continue
looking at that as we're speaking so obviously um I don't I don't even remember her name you pull the whole thing off to the right yeah over there Barbara think same Mr chairman could we have a two-minute recess so that I can discuss
this with the applicant because I'm getting the sense that I'm getting is that uh we might want to make some changes and that would change the planner's testimony as well you I mean that's that's fine you
could take a recess for five minutes that's fine very good but you hear what our concerns are we just want this to look like the rest of the neighborhood as best we can they understand they want the space and they have to be two stories but try to make it look
something understood understood but if I may also suggest we do have some members of the public here we'd certainly be interested to hear their comments too to uh see if there are things that we can address as well you want to wait till
the end or before you go into a recess uh probably just as soon hear what they had to say before certainly okay so let's uh have them come up and tell us and their address where they live and what can you bring the phone over to
here question well they're not asking their test thank so are they they're asking questions or what are they going to be saying we don't know they have to come up so let open to the public for questions on okay we're going to open up the hearing to the public for questions
only come on up Sir or you want to bring the mic to you bring the mic to you whatever works just hello oh you just got ask a question yeah I try to uh give some comment right and my concern should you
just state your name and your address my name is Roger I'm the homeowner of uh the labor light free steel Ro just two houses down from this uh Which Way UPN going on the way side on the way side so if you're
looking at the house it's two houses light okay sir before you start Mr St yes OB we usually just do questions now the testimony are you okay we open up the comments we're happy to hear comments so we can make comments I'm have to swear you in do you swear airm the testimony you're about to give
is the truth nothing but the truth right yes thank you I'm just trying to understand which is your house because I'm looking at a streetcape on my phone so you're the sing number is on so if I'm is the applicants to this side or to that side of you if applicant is here
I'm on the right side the right side so your house Bri front Bri front brick front two story sing two story two story yeah two story building two houses right oh so he is up this way okay all right
so yours house is two stories too right okay I see it okay you see it right y okay uh I just Tred to spend a couple minutes to talk about uh my concern my comment right and uh whatever may be the suggestion right I know that this public
hearing involve two variants one is uh 18.4 ft right set back from the front second one is 35% lck coverage right instead of the 25 I understand that uh someone try to build a house is okay for
a family it's okay 35% coverage would be equal to 3,850 Square fet okay has compared to 25% coverage is only 2,750 ft right but uh when you look at
the coverage right it should include the house area the uh pave uh driveway as well as the two car garage 500 square ft right if you suppose that
uh the 10 ft wide plus 100 ft driveway right to the back of the garage that would be 1,000 square ft and then 500 square ft for the T garage that would occupy 1,500 right but if they ask for
the 35% lot coverage I'm okay with that right when you deduct those 1,500 square ft for the driveway and the garage the house could still be could could build on uh for uh more than 3,000 square
ft I'm still okay right but what I'm concerned is the 18.4 Ft setb from the street it look like that it is just like one member up here mentioned about it
look like a structure shoting out to the street sir did you see the architectural plans I don't see the architectural uh plan but I understand that the existing uh to be demolished structure is 50 ft
set back 50 ft right it will be in L wait let me interrupt you I just want to show you while you're talking what they're proposing can you show them what it's going to look like in the front I know but that's part of it but it doesn't S the set B no it's
only to look at the architectural that's what I wanted to show you okay since she's going to be your neighbor the rest is not going to it's only the inside okay so your concern your question the structure what is your question do you have a question my question is the structure is shoting out
to the street it is not Harmony in line with the surround Bing building that's the question number one right question number two is because I am on the L three if I'm backing up my car look like this PE peculiar structure right will be
situated there permanently right here you allow it to be built 18.4 ft from the street it will be just like a uh tall wall facing us right when we pulling backward right to the street okay that will be blocking the view
that's the first point second point is if in future uh let's say the front y landscape they uh plant some bushes or tree or maybe sometime if uh the car park on the almost to the end of the
street right that would be almost totally blocking my view backing up to the street that would create a dangerous has okay and also uh I also are realized today right when
I'm coming to here this evening right heavy pouring of the Ring right but maybe you understand maybe you know or maybe you don't know that Steel Road compared to the proper Corner Road right steel is look like a grading down
forming a slope going down to my way all the way to the butter Club area that means I I I would suggest that would be 5 to 10 degree gring down that's why a lot of water coming down there and also if I backing
out from my driveway that permanent structure of I here supp to be build only 18.4 ft from the street that will look the building look even taller here that was yours okay so let me let
me hold you for one second I want to ask the engineer is there any any rules or regulations about site view because of that I didn't even think about that one site triangles are associated with your driveway he's two properties away
he's probably over 100 feet away the the site tracker for his driveway would not be be on this property what about the neighbors that are right next door because according to what I see here the driveways are one of them is right up against that person's
home the house on the right side the driveway is next to the other person's driveway so they would be right next to each other and uh so that would that might be a sight issue for the house with the brick front typically the site triangle starts 15 feet from the edge of
the pavement or the curb line into the property normally your right away is about 10 feet wide so you're talking about five feet into the property we're nowhere's near the house is set back 18 feet from the RightWay okay so well beyond it issue yeah plantings can be a
problem and normally it's held uh violations are issued by code enforcement for something like that if he was to plant something by the curve line that obstructed a neighbor's view for getting out of their driveway they' get violation so sir I'd like to clarify one
thing you're okay it's I want to I don't confirm for this for me you're okay with the variance going from 25% lot coverage to 35% lot cover I don't care even you don't care about that I don't care even though they like to build a mini Empire State Building there right but as long as the setback the set high or in
harmony with the surrounding house right and also I suggest that if they they have that intention to build this LGE structure is okay but why don't they just move the whole structure back to the existing set we got we got your
message okay so it's the same that we were saying so thank you very much for comments like one of you mention about before right like look like lot that harmony with the surrounding uh building okay that's my
only comment right it's a good comment that's a great comment 40% 50% as long as we're going to talk about we didn't even get to the coverage part right now we're only talking about the the front set back because if the lot coverage right
excluding the garage excluding the driveway I don't care right the house could be built in a larger house right but the my major concern is the set is we got it our board here is also
concerned with how this anybody kind of does work like this how it's going to affect the neighborhood and and even though every case is different we try to think of the Neighbors First the person coming in for the variances and if there's a way to mitigate the variances
like you mentioned coverage is there a way to reduce the coverage yes there is so if we can reduce variance so it's less variances that's a good thing and still give the applicant what they want okay one last comment right uh next to
my house is lii right I'm L lii they have one driveway right but look like appear to me that there are always a lot of car parking there that's why when we backing up our car we be uh very cautious right because they bling the
driveway they not driving all the way they even always all the time have has a pickup shop Park even parking on a unfortunately we're not here for the next door neighbor so we have you have to talk to them separately this is for the applicant is
building thank you very much for your comments backing up from the I get it I get it we get it thank you for your comments dangerous um if if you're going to say something then we have to swear you in no that's okay go
ahead you swear firm the testimon you're about to give the truth nothing but the truth yes okay you state spell your name for the record and your address yeah my name is y my last name is my last name is
y and I'm living in 93 still wall okay okay and I'm the I'm one of the driver um I'm concerned about when I you know Drive uh from my uh uh driveway and
right now because my labor they always and uh uh pack the uh R and then the truck over there I couldn't see it's very dangerous for me wait a minute is this the neighbor that's building the house yeah the house building F light
but we we're not here for that that's why right now if is dangerous if they build a house okay uh set back only 18.4 ft I can imagine you know when I try back up it's very danger for me okay
we thank you for your comment okay any other person in the public have a comment can can I leave because I due to my medical problem I have to go home to do some medical H things you can go you're finished thank
you thank you thank you do anybody else in the public want to make any comments okay so just we should tell Mr if I don't know what the applicant's going to do but they're going to talk it's possible they may get a vote tonight it's possible they may come back so if they come back just pay attention to
you're not going to get a new notice pay attention to our agenda we'll we'll we'll notify the new date if they come back I'm not saying they will but if they do but when I open up the homeown township website web page yeah regarding today tonight also call our secretary anytime that the Zoning Board office and
she'll tell you okay so you want a you want a 5 minute recess it will be posted on the website and my extension is uh we Grant the applicant a 5 minute recess this isv that's right we have tell
you can see us but you can't hear us e e e e e e e e
e e e e e okay so the applicant attorney is back thank you Mr chairman we uh have pretty good ears we've listened carefully to uh comments of the board we've listened
carefully to the comments of the neighbors and we would like to uh carry this hearing so that we can look at TR trying to uh refine the plan to something that's more uh acceptable so if that's acceptable to
the board we would like to to carry the application to uh whatever your next available meeting is okay and I hope the applicant understands what we're why we're doing it I mean it's a lovely house uh maybe not have it as high up so
it sticks out you know think about it see what the architect can do to make it look a little more like the neighbors maybe a you know Farm style or something but I leave that up to you guys
okay so um pick a date question how long would you need oh a month mon yes May 7th um we could we could do May 7th we could do April if if you we have some large ones in April in
April yeah we'd rather have a date that we know we're going to April April May 7th May 7th is perfect it's open and one one thing IR can we put on here that special site visit for the other application what what date is that on again uh May 5th was it May 5th okay okay May
5th yeah did we I thought I thought okay May 5th okay okay so May May 7th May we're going to carry this to May 7th okay thank you Mr chairman and board without further notice we look forward
to it thank you have a good evening thank you stay dry so Marty I don't want it so I won't jump around then about we should do it okay old business okay gotcha okay okay all righty so let's do the minutes
of uh February 19th next I just any motion a second I motion to approve the minutes of well before you before you do that has every body had a chance to take a look at the minutes and do they have any corrections or additions just that one correction
you said you made it already Yes I did okay thank you with that said can I have a motion I motion to approve the minutes of February 19 2025 second second by
Francine call eligible to vote Mr Berkeley yes Miss campus yes Miss Gerard yes uh Mr J po yes uh Mr orphanos yes and Miss Castello yes thank
you okay so that takes care the minute so the next thing would be professional reports nothing I presume uh you're going to be with us for a few applications going forward on the dates that uh I'm sure you have them already Yes I and you'll be able to be
here yourself yes absolutely okay so you may May 7th now or is it May 5th I site visit for Andrews management talking about or well we're going to talk about that now yeah this the May 7th is for this one that we're carrying
site visited April 5th 11: a.m. so can we put add that on this count absolutely that's what I was suggesting yeah April 5th at what time 11:00 a.m. okay to ask started
ask I'm going to check with the applicant yeah April April 5th at 11: a.m. I know is if you're coming over uh if you're coming off the Parkway North you make a left you go over the parkway it's the first it's all clearcut it's a it's on let me my M sounds
good anything else on the calendar that we have to talk about wait anything else on the calendar think it's pretty straightforward everything else is the same okay go ahead Jason you had a comment oh no I was just describing where the location is for a
John oh the the site visit okay it's right after the parkway right across street from Mo it's there's one Farmhouse to the left of it and the Parkways to the right of it I will send out the details when it's
once it gets closer and when you when you do get the I hope they can give it to you ahead of time what the plans look like so they make we can make sure that they have everything on there that we're going to need to see FL you may flag a cheat she like a map it should be
the site plan with little CES say this is a red flag number five or something and then we'll look on there and see what number five is so if they can give it to us ahead of time and they would do the build in one color they said Park in another color right I
I heard what you Jason yeah he went over the different colors well I do recall that was part of last meeting yeah but I would just like to see it beforehand and make sure that it makes sense okay anything else okay motion to adjourn motion to
adjourn second no you're first I said can I have a motion to adjourn I'll make the motion I'll second the motion thank you have a good night