Mac, sorry again for the interruption. Technical difficulties. Continue, Kate. Okay. Anyway, all I was saying is that if you look at the ordinance, um the minimum the maximum lot coverage in the RTH zone is 15% in the ordinance and it is 30% in the application. It's 30% in
every other application we've ever gotten in this um subdivision, which we finally got to the bottom of thanks to a lot of assistance from um Arena and Courtney in particular. Um, this was developed in the mid 80s as twin acres.
That's what it was called. Um, halfway through this development being constructed, the township changed the definition of lot coverage. In which case, at that time, all of the dwellings that had been constructed thus far, including this one, were over on lot
coverage. So in 1984, the original developer came to the planning board and said, "We are requesting a universal increase in lot coverage that will apply to all of the dwellings in this subdivision." Now, it's called Meadowwood. I have Meadow
Brook. It's called Meadowwood Estates. Um, and ever since then, every application that's on these streets, um, it's, um, Hawthorne, it's Bayberry, it's, uh, the other one green. Anyway, um but at all this area, the maximum lot
coverage is 30%. So that's not in the zoning, it's in the resolution which we reviewed. It is in my letter, Craig's letter. Craig did not have the benefit of this at the time his letter was issued. We figured it all out the next day. Um because, you know, we wanted to make sure that we because a pretty
because essentially the applicant's proposing 27.7% which is a pretty serious increase over 15%. but it's complies with the 30% that they're allowed to have. So, we wanted to make sure that we weren't, you know, first of all, they hadn't noticed for it and also we wanted to make sure that we weren't going to have them
ask for a variance for for, you know, a pretty big variance they ended up not needing. So, just wanted to clarify that this is all explained in number seven in my um report. Um, this is something that we're trying to find a better trying to find a way to put this in the actual ordinance
uh so that it doesn't take uh an entire it doesn't take four people a whole day to figure this out. But so just just that's that's what we have here. So we'll talk about the impervious coverage. Um you know they are adding um they're going up about four and a half% but they are still compliant
technically. So So that to you said to find a way to put in the ordinance we can add it to our end of the year report too. Yes. something. Yes, exactly. If make a little note of that so at the end of the year when we do our report, we can put that in there in Arena. I have a Well, we'll I have a
whole list of things. Oh, okay. Yep. All right. Thank you, Kate. Mr. Chairman, if I may. Um, you want to say a few things? Yes, please. Uh, so, uh, just to follow up with what Kate had said. Um my report
uh lists the pool variance and then the four and then four um variances. The maximum uh F and the front yard setback are consistent with Kate's and the other two the rear yard setback. We
interpreted the uh other side yard other other lot line as the rear yard. So that is incorrect. So we defer to Kates letter on that. and then also that discussion about the maximum law coverage. We defer to uh Kate's letter on that.
Thank you, Craig. Okay, it's your show. Okay, introduce yourself, who you are, and who your Dan Marso and my wife Gina Marc uh and our planner, Barbara Alen. Um so, I just
want to thank everyone for hearing our request tonight. Um, I'm here to formally ask for your approval for the variances for the property at 14 Horththornne A, block 5802, lot 16. Um, my family and I have lived in Homedale since 2020. Um, and we truly love it
here. Uh, we live in Meadowwood Estates, which has been a wonderful place to raise our family. Uh, we have two young kids. We have, um, a 20-year-old a 20-month old daughter and a seven-month-old son. Um, so when we were looking, Homeell offered kind of exactly what we were looking for when in a home
and when we started our family. Um, as our family grows, we're looking to make an addition to our home so we can continue living here comfortably. Um, we're kind of running low on space right now. The additional space will help uh us host family gatherings and better meet the day-to-day needs of our household. Our goal is to create a more
functional living environment while remaining in this neighborhood. Um, since moving in our home, we have also identified several improvements uh that would help us feel more comfortable in our home. Those include replacing the roof, siding, windows, uh updating the heating and cooling systems. For
example, our daughter's room doesn't uh cool or warm properly, so we need uh special heating and cooling in her room alone. Uh so these are just some of the things that with the addition will improve in the house. Um my wife also works from home so having a dedicated office space would significantly improve
her work environment as well. Um so to help talk through the technical aspects of our application um you know we have Barbara our planner Barbara Alen um and she'll be providing more detailed information to the variances and anything else that you would need.
Okay. We're going to qualify you first. Were there any questions? No. Good evening. My Good evening. My name is Barbara Allen. I'm a licensed professional planner in the state of New Jersey and an AICP. I work with Beacon Planning. I've worked
there since 2008 and worked my way up to principal. I've been accepted uh throughout the state of New Jersey as a professional planner, including by this board. Anybody have questions? How about did you testify in Homedale before or Mammoth County?
Yes. No, I've testified before this board before. You did? Yeah. Oh boy. Oh god. Sorry. Sorry. It's been on here too long. Okay. And uh yes, I've been qualified uh before the uh township of uh Ocean. Uh
um we accept. We accept you. Thank you. I messed up. Okay. All right. Go ahead. All right. So, this evening the application is for 14 Hawthorne. Um, it is a corner property uh on your screen
and as if I could check in this packet as exhibit um to mark it. Would it be A1? We're going to mark the whole packet as A1. Yes. And so, it's just it's an aerial photograph of the property and subsequent are photos of both the subject property and uh homes
within the same development. Who took these photos? I did. Okay. on the date that's on there. And on the date that's on there. So, and I have 10 pages. Is that correct? I believe so. 20. That's today. I was saying it's
raining out there in your pictures. I didn't melt. I was okay. 10. So the uh the aerial is dated uh July 6, 2025. The photos are dated today. Is that like a Google aerial? It's a near map image.
Okay. All right. Go ahead. All right. So the aerial uh up on the screen you can tell that uh you can see that the property is a corner lot. Um and so it's maintaining uh frontages along both Hawthorne uh to the west and
Bayberry to the north. The home itself is uh more or less centralized on the site. Uh but you'll note that it's actually uh the home is sort of angled. It's not parallel to Bayberry. So the applicant is proposing addition
along this garage along the home's northern side that will parallel which will follow that established angle. And so when we're looking for the setbacks along Bayberry, I note that the setback requested is for the for the like what
will be the northwestern point of the garage and then the setback will increase as you go from west uh to east. Uh the property as it has two front yards. It has a limited rear yard area which is located in its southoutheast
area. Uh yes, southeast area. Um you'll note uh which is not visible on here is there's actually a sanitary easement that runs along the southern property line which limits uh any development
within that area and it's about 12 1/2 ft wide. Uh there is a small patio there and a gazebo. The application this evening is seeking to remove the gazebo and the and its concrete pad and
construct an uh an ingground uh pool as well as maintain or reconstruct a patio by the home. Um with I'll jump back to the home in just a second. Uh the applicant after reviewing or hearing the planners uh
review letter uh is seeking to modify the variance for the pool. Uh originally it was a 5-ft setback. Uh the applicant is seeking to shift the pool westward and the pool will be 10 feet. It will meet that sideyard setback of 10 ft. Uh good. Save me a speech on that.
Yes. Same same here, Demetri. They are asking though that they be permitted uh the patio be about three feet along the side of that pool. So it would intrude into the sideyard. Uh so it would have a a setback of 7 feet to
the to this three foot wide I hate to say patio kind of like a walkway so that there's safe egress. Is that going to be concrete or pavers? Pavers. So, okay. Yeah. Then that's So, so, so what you're saying is that so as of now, um,
they're five. So, if it's pavers, it changes things, doesn't it? No, they already had it calculated as pavers. Yes. I think what they're saying is that nothing's going to actually change. Um, so the
So, where it stands now, did I misunderstood this? I thought that the actual the patio was 5T. No, the pool was was proposed to be f the pool itself was proposed to be five feet. That's what it said. Yes. Okay. So, and now you're proposing
to have the pool at 10 feet, right? But if we have pavers, it doesn't matter, right? Well, they've always had pavers. No, I mean that that that's the only thing that's in that area. Yes. Exactly. And and because I think that it has to be um Yeah. No, if it's pavers. Yeah. There so we don't need a variance. That
variance is deleted. Nope. Okay. Great. So, we are no longer asking for the variance for the pool. Good. Um so our variance requests are limited to uh the floor area ratio of which we're
requesting 24.53 uh where 20% is permitted and a front yard setback of um 45 ft um is required where 41 ft exists and uh 28.3 ft is proposed at Bayerry Drive.
Okay. for the for the clarification for members that are not going to say they know what far far means. Kate, can you explain what that means? So everybody knows. Sure. So the floor area ratio is basically the square footage of your in
this case a home divided by the area of your lot. Um so in case of a in if for a residential use it pretty much includes everything above um you know ground level. Um, and so that going they're raising their their floor area, which is
basically the gross square footage of the house, is increasing from about 2,000 square feet to um about 20 3291 square feet. And so because of that their F which is that number divided by
the um 13,500ish um for the lot size is going from about uh 15% to 24 and a.5%. Why do we care about the per
That is exactly why. Perfect. That is exactly why. Um yeah, and it's it's less of an issue on um in the in the this the um portions of the township where there's larger lot sizes. You know, for example, a five or 6 thousand
square foot home on a 1 acre acre and a half lot is not necessarily going to, you know, look out of character, have a negative impact, something like that. However, a 5,000 6,000 square foot house on a lot of this size would have would
be substantially out of character with the neighborhood and also, you know, just be and because there are cases where, you know, you can have a large house and it might still meet the setbacks. There's people can get very creative. Um, but the F is really a way of controlling for bulk, for massing.
Um, you know, just just to ensure that the zone maintains the character that the zone was intended to have. Thank you, Kate. Sure. Okay. So, I guess you'll discuss each one of the points. I will. Thank you. Go ahead. So, the home dates uh to the to
approximately 1984 and currently contains approximately 2012 square feet. So, it's a relatively smaller home. It has three bedrooms upstairs, uh downstairs, a kitchen, a living room, a small dining area, um and the attached garage. The home itself actually doesn't
contain a basement. So, there's limited areas for storage uh that's typically associated with a home like where you're putting your Christmas decorations and things of that nature. Um so, the application this evening is
seeking to permit a 377 foot addition to the home's first floor that does not include the garage. um and to expand to permit a second floor to the home uh above the existing garage and above portions of the and
above the uh garage addition. Uh the the second floor will step back from the first floor along the Hawthorne um frontage. So the second floor will be expanded from 97 square feet uh and will almost
double to 1,800 square feet um in total to 1,00 what? 800 approximately. Um upon completion, the second floor will contain five bedrooms where currently contains three and will
contain um uh a master bedroom that will be provided an on suite bathroom and then the two remaining bathrooms up there will continue to exist. So there's already two bathrooms up there. They're proposing the master to have its own bathroom as well.
Um, the proposed application does conform to your lot coverage standards and we uh I've spoken to your engineer with regards to his comments for a seepage pit uh with respect to uh lock coverage.
I've spoken to the applicant and to the engineer and we agreed maybe not a seepage pit, maybe like a a dry well, uh a rain garden, something like that to help collect the extra and the applicant would be willing to work with the township engineer uh to find a solution
uh for his um concerns. Closer to Bay Drive. Uh it would most likely have to be somewhere along in the eastern portion. Uh but they they are going to be regrading the site which of course they will do with township approval. Uh and
then they can uh we can delineate what the best spot is for for whatever method is is chosen. So you and Greg are going to work that out. Is that what you're saying? Uh yes. Or the applicant and Greg will work that out. So you'll run a lot more gutters right from the house where you'd be expanding
the property coverage right into the rainwater drainage. worried about flooding issues. I understand and fortunately I'm not an engineer. Uh but I I know they will work and obviously they'll question I'm imagining you know when you're
adding on the coverage to the house the lot to the house going towards Bay Drive you would run all the gutters underground into this rainwater catch basin. Is that what's going to be proposed? There's going to be a lot more
flooding. Well, well, generally, yes. And what we ask is um uh so you know on the I believe it was about 500 or so 600 or so square feet of additional impervious coverage that's going to be added. So
whether it's if it's all of the roof leaders, not necessarily, but it's at least a portion of the new roof that u we're not sending additional water directly to the street. Um, so at least some of the roof leaders, whether it be all of them or some of them would would
be directed to this seish pit. So you're getting clean water off the roof that can directly infiltrate into the ground and it um lessens the amount that's flowing directly, you know, off the site into the streets. And to the the point of the applicant, um I mentioned seepage
pit and me being an engineer, seepage pit is what comes to mind. But yeah, again u we ask that it's three inches of runoff over that new impervious area be sized for that and it could be anything from a stone uh volume underneath the ground or even some sort of a um like
you said a a rain garden that has you know some storage in it that can cover that that allow that water to seep into the ground and then we would have some sort of usual overflow that would then flow through the street in case that fills up on some torrential downpour where the volume exceeded. Do you
understand what he is referring to? Rain garden, sea pitch pit, what all that is? Okay. I mean, you have land on the Hearththorn sign or Bberry side to do that even doesn't have that doesn't matter if it's on front yard area. So,
which which way is the gradient going? Is it going from uh Yeah. Which the low end? That's your question. Bay side or Hawthorne side? The low end's in the the southeast area. The pool is going it's still going. The pool's a little
bit more to the Hawthorn, right? A little bit more to where's the the pool will be right around here in the southeast area where the lowest area of the uh actually I think if you look at the survey it kind of goes both ways. The house is kind of situated at the high eye high eye point and the driveway side
that area does flow towards Bay. Okay. and then the other sign kind of does float to that back corner. Okay. So, it's going to be critical that your contractor does the pool is very careful with grading because you don't want to create a problem where
water now goes to your neighbor's house because that's right and and now for once in all these years I've been on the board, I can actually speak to this as an expert because I'm going through this in my own house putting a pool in. So the grading is my biggest issue
and it'll probably be yours too because you're on a small lot. So you got the contractor, you have to be on top of them because they just do what they got to do and they have to understand that the pool can't be going up like a mold hill. You know what I'm saying?
And then if we could get the rain garden or a gravel pit or whatever method you want to use that works with Craig, then that'll solve a lot of those issues. And even when and it doesn't say where you're putting your pool equipment, but you're going to have to backwash that and empty water sometimes
out of the pool when it rains a lot. So where is that water going to drain to? There should be some sort of a spot where a pipe is connecting to that that they're running. So you could just put the hose from the pool into that pipe and it'll go into the rain garden or dry well. Okay.
So you that's part of the planning of this and I don't know if Craig will get into all those details with you or not. Craig, I would think this two rain capture guard basins like one close to the pool for DE and water running that direction and one closer to Bayberry
next to the right hand side of the driveway. We we could do that. Yes. Yeah. I I tell you looking at it I am concerned. You say that's the low that corner is the low point of the property and that would actually if there's a problem there that's not going to affect just one
uh neighbor. It's going to affect three. Right. And then they were talking about regrading. What's the regrading? Is the regrading going to help to push the water away from that corn? That corner to me is a serious It's It's hard for us to judge that. We're going to have to rely on them
because obviously that lower corner there that we see there is where it's sensitive and that's the lowest point. So maybe when they grade it, they can raise it up a little bit there so it makes the water go down the other direction. Right. Because you don't want that water going straight into that corner where the neighbors are.
No. And then then you're going to create a situation if the pool overflows. Guess who's going to get the water? The neighbors. Yeah. So it has to flow towards the it has to flow towards either one of the two streets in a way. And that's where the rain garden would be. Is this something they could come back
with the plan? I'm hearing we're going to let Craig do it all. They have they have to they have to submit a plot plan and everything no matter what. Okay. So that will all typically for a residential application because it's not a site plan that requires grading. that is all happen as
part of resolution compliance. Um but it's it's reviewed as same way everything else. So Greg, you feel that there is something that can be done to resolve this issue? Yes. Okay. Yeah. Because this is basically a flat there's going to be they're going to be carting away dirt from that property. So
you know it depends on how much they're going to cart away and how much they're going to reuse. So through the chair I just have a question. Is Greg going to do the grading review for the pool? Right. Okay. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Go ahead. I was just clarifying uh with the
applicant. Um the utility easement across the southern property line uh appears to be actually a storm water since there is a great open grate in their southeast corner of their property. So, it doesn't look like it is on the survey, but that great or that inlet is
actually part of their property. So, what are you proposing? What page is that? No, I'm just saying that you know with concerns to some storm water and not I'm not discussing pool discharge or anything like that. Uh but just with respect to storm water, right? There is some but we don't want to add to the stream
car either. We want it to go into the ground on your property. That's what we're talking about. I just wanted to know. So you have I don't know really what the rules are with grading on utility easements. So um in terms of the utilities uh I
have not seen a definition of what that utilities um uh involves it. I don't see any sanitary sewer information. So um it does have an inlet at the one corner. So this could be a uh utility for
drainage and that's why that inlet is placed there which makes sense because that's a low spot of the area. So, uh, while I agree that, um, effort should be made to try to direct storm water away from the pool and get away from those neighboring properties, in that case, if
there's ever an issue, it appears that um, something has been implemented that it won't affect the neighbors where um, water could go to that easement into that drainage inlet before it goes to say it was specifically designed for that. original
that was before the increase. Correct. And that's why we asked for um you know the the additional storage volume um for that. Uh but um you know even that the the um increase isn't a whole lot and there's already anticipated to
be you know drainage to that point that low point in the back there. Right. So well did you hire yet a pool company? Not yet. Okay. So most pool companies have an engineer firm that works with them. So that's going to be their job and their concern to get the plans and do that all
correctly. You've heard all these things. Hopefully you took some notes down and and you know I don't know how soon that's going to happen. That's probably going to happen after the addition, but uh you you at one point or another that information should go to and that
might be a year from now though. Who knows? Absolutely. because he's going to be doing the building. He may not do the pool. That's the last thing you're going to do. To be technically correct, it's going to be a resolution compliance issue, right? It's going to be conditional approval. So, he will be
so you going to um just since nobody's here to advise you, so uh you're going to have to finish all those open uh compliance conditions before they'll give you a CO to start your I mean a building permit to build even your house. So even if your pools come in second,
so you're gonna have to get your your professional to deal with Craig to resolve these issues about graded in drainage before you even most likely before you even start. I don't think they'll give you a building permit. Yeah. So basically, you're going to have to get your own engineer and not wait for the pool engineer and then the pool
company is going to conform to build the pool based on whatever your engineer designs to address all this. Otherwise, nothing is going to happen. You're right. Good point. I forgot about that. engineer talk with Yes, absolutely. Okay. I'm sure she could recommend an
engineer. Might know one or two. That's good. You only need one. And you'll have a little time because the resolution takes a month or two to finish. Then it once it's published, there's a 45day appeal period. You know, you got to wait till that's over. At that point, you're going to start. You
can start in the meantime, but that's when you got to really get the compliance of those conditions taken care of. So, it'll be it'll be months. I mean, you know, I don't know how quick you're trying to do this, but it's not going to be tomorrow if this gets approved tonight. P. Yeah. It's just the way the process is. It's just going to take a while. Just
have patience. I can tell you from experience. Okay. All right. Uh, moving on. Any other questions on drainage or anything we've talked to about right now? Angela, you're quiet on the phone there. You have any comments?
No, nothing for me. Okay, John. I can see he's ready to ask something. Uh, no nothing. I was just I was just going to add or further ask that when we're talk we're talking about backwashing out of the pool, the other issues with the pool. I was thinking you may also have it's also going to be an
issue probably an issue if you have it like cover for example when it rains like today that's going to be something else that it's a number of things.
Yeah, I I would be satisfied with two drainage basins. One in that corner by the pool, the kind of bottom corner to the right, and then one at the top right for a lot of the house run off basically. Yeah, you're satisfying, I think, my concerns with the drainage issue.
Okay. It just has to be away from the Yeah. Yeah. I mean, then again, just work with your engineer and correct. Of course. Yes. But I think two I think I think two drainage basins would satisfy any concerns with flooding. Just basically think of all the water
that gets generated anywhere on your property should stay on your property. Okay. Right. That's basically the answer. However you do it, that's up to you. He gave you a couple choices. However you do it is up to you. But we don't want it to drain into the street. We don't want it to drain into the stream corridor or anything like that.
Okay. Okay. Okay. Good. All right. Moving on. Floria ratio. So uh we are requesting a Floria ratio variance. Uh but I wanted to note that actually the community itself has
undergone a lot of reinvestment and a lot of the photos that are in the packet um are are of that. So the the first photo after the aerial is actually the subject property and where that garage is uh is where it's proposed to be
extended out northward and added a second floor to. Uh the third photo is uh the rear property or the backyard of the property. So you can see how it's it's how it's currently laid out and how you know they're hoping to shift the pool and and keep the patio. Um next
property is nine Prospect Street. Uh this is a corner lot uh wherein the uh the addition was put over uh the uh twocar garage. Um 15 Hawthorne. Um, this this is not a corner property.
Um, utilizing the the township's tax records, I estimated the floor area ratio for a number of homes within the community. Um, so I took what the tax record said was the the floor area and I divided it by the lot size. And so when
we come to uh 15 Hawthorne Avenue, uh the home uh reportedly per tax records has an area of 3,283 square ft and a floor area ratio of 0.29. Um continuing on, I will also just say that
Barb, I don't mean to interrupt you, but we um I can confirm that many of these properties, including that one, came before this board. That one was in 2010. We've had a a handful of Yeah. And I I don't know for sure if that was F, but there Yeah, Courtney put a list together going back to um she's
the zoning officer going back to like the '9s, and many of these properties have been here. Yeah. Uh we do have I do I was able to review uh resolutions for um 57 Hawthorne uh where a floor ratio of41 was approved
and uh 15 green leaf where a floor ratio of 3010 was approved. So the applicant, yes, is asking for.24 uh 53, but this is well within uh what this board has previously reviewed and found to be um suitable for these types
of properties. Um what was the one on green leaf? The resolution uh it was 15 green leaf. Yes. No, I'm sorry. The F uh 3 010 or 30125, I'm sorry.
So, I guess you went around and looked at all these houses and looked to get ideas for your house. Yeah, we've been walking around the whole time. So, so we see a lot of big additions. So, if you look through the remaining photos, you'll see other homes that are both corner lots and homes within
community that have larger floor area ratios. People are choosing to stay in the community and they just need the additional living space and storage space. It's a good trick or treat community. It is. Is it? I'm jealous. Very good. Nice.
Okay. Is that it? Uh yes. Uh those are our variances. I do note your master plan looks to allow reinvestment in residential uh communities and neighborhoods and that the per uh for purposes of zoning or land use. It is an efficient
reutilization of the site and uh allows for the continuation of the existing structure instead of having to demolish and rebuild for something more efficient. Okay, professionals, you have any any comments? I would I would just note that I agree
with everything Barbara said. Um, you know, this this is a unique uh portion of the township where this people are really growing with these homes that were built 40 years ago. Um, 41 years ago, if it's the same age as I am. Um, so you know there's been a lot of
changes here but I think that the way that the zoning is in place has allowed the board to you know in the township to maintain this sense of control over it not control but you know to understand what's going on here. Um the other thing I would note is that you know when we were looking at some of these old resolutions just this as you heard some
of the F variances that have been approved are much higher than this and I think you know this was a larger property you know over 13,000 square feet corner lot and this was I believe the smallest size model smallest size home model that was developed in this
community. it was around I think just the way things changed over time but it was around a 1900 square foot 1950 foot um home. So you know they're really they're really starting with a very a rather modest size and so they're going up to about 3,000 but that's really less
I think in when you look at the context of that ratio um I think it's an appropriate use and I think I think that they've used the backyard creatively and etc. Okay, Craig. So, yeah, I just wanted to uh run through a couple of my comments which I
talked real quick with the the applicant and they seem to be in agreement with them. Um, first question is, is the house senator sewer and water, right? City water. City water. Okay. Amen. City water.
City water. Okay. Thank you. Uh is the are you part of a homeowners association? We are not. Okay. Um I had a comment regarding two comments regarding the pool and um uh we talked
through that and I believe uh the applicant agreed to address those two comments. Uh the impervious cover about the sep we already discussed. Uh it it appears that um your project will have less than 5,000 square feet of disturbance, which
means you don't need a permit from the soil conservation district. However, we do recommend that um you install necessary slow version control measures which your your contractor and your professionals will know about such as silt fence and particularly
uh that inlet that's at the corner of the site where um you know as you're starting to excavate and sediment can run off when it rains it doesn't deposit into the systems. Um and then the last item um I wanted to it was a checklist item regarding are the proposed
landscape. Are you proposing any landscaping as part of the project or there will be landscaping? I just not right now. Okay. So, that's something we can work out through that pro that same process. So, freehold soil, they're going to have to get an exemption letter because they're under 5,000. So, they still have
to get that letter. It's part of the building application process. Okay. You you'll you'll find that out when you go get your permits. Okay. It's basically an agency that deals with erosion control. Okay. Make it simple.
Yeah. Because I'm dealing with them, too. I'll talk them through it. Yeah. It's not easy. It's a challenge. Okay. So, um, so just one, can I just for the record? So, you've heard Craig say some of those things. Just for the record, you you're in agreement with what he just said for
those conditions. You'll get the freehold soil exemption letter. Um, you agree to all the technical comments in his review letter. You'll comply with them. Yes. Pits or rainars? Yeah, we didn't he didn't go over them, but whatever is in Craig's letter. Um Um
yeah, as long as you got a copy of and you work with Craig on any landscaping as a condition of approval and you're putting in the reduction of the size of the pool. I mean, they agreed to reduce the that's already in the application.
Okay. So, board members, before I open it up to the public, do you have any questions or comments? I'll come back to you guys again though, so this is not the only shot you have. Okay. So, at this point in the meeting, I know there's some people out in the
audience. This is the opportunity for the public to ask questions and we will also take comments both at the same time. So, does anybody out there have any comments or questions of the applicants?
So, nobody does. Okay. So, the public portion is closed. Board members, your last chance to make any comments or questions. If none are none, then we can have a motion from somebody. I'll make a motion.
Wait, use the mic closer to you, Jean. I motion that we accept this. Okay. subject to the conditions discussed subject to yeah conditions of land soil
exemption certific well that's automatic that stuff okay and then also to work with our engineer that's my concern concerning the seats and train we can go over real quick so it's yeah go ahead I don't know if it's in the plan or not it's shifting the pool location so that variance is gone uh working with
our professionals on grading and drainage um working with our professional regarding the location of the pool equipment uh working with our professionals on installing most likely two seepage or rain guard or whatever is
ultimately agreed to instead of just one. um working with our professionals regarding landscaping, agreeing to the technical comments in the engineers review letter uh and getting the exemption letter and from Freehold soil as well as having your
uh your pool company install soil control, you know, control fences, you know, Craig will go over what's required, but it's essentially that fencing you see that orange fencing or whatever color it is. Black the so fence is black. The orange is temporary fence. Okay. Yeah. Yeah,
I'm an expert. Allow water to go through but not set. And so the variances, can you uh repeat go over which variances we're asking and we could vote to for them at the same time? The f in the front yard. Okay, those are the two. So vote at the same time because the other ones are all right.
They've all been not needed or modified. Matter of Yeah. Okay. So we have a motion. Can we have a second? I'll second the motion. Jean. No. No. I thought Miss Campson did the second.
Okay. Yes, please. Roll call. Mr. Burgl, I approve. Uh, Miss Campus, I approve. Miss Gerard, I approve. Mr. Luchiani, I approve. Uh, Mr. Gian Paulo, I approve. Mr. Offender Pulos,
I'm okay. And Miss Castello. What about Angela? Miss Castello. Say it again. Okay. Motion passed. Thank you. Okay. Do you have any anything else?
Uh, no. I think we're good. Thank you very much for hearing. Okay. And this is only the beginning of this process. Well, it's been going on for about a year now with the architect and everything. So Oh, you don't know what you're in for. I can't wait. Good luck. Good luck. Thank you. Appreciate it. Okay.
Uh, where's my agenda? We try to sell your school. Yeah. Okay. Do we have any report from our professionals? Nothing for me. Nothing for me. Thank you. A motion and second, please.
Motion to close. Thank you. Have a good night. He's asking