Welcome everyone to the special meeting of the school committee. It is December 17 at 4:06. >> Roll call. Miss Feliciano. >> Mayor Garcia. >> Dr. Veru >> here. >> Mr. Sheen
>> present. >> Mr. F >> present. >> Mr. Bra Martinez >> here. >> Miss Tensey William. Mr. >> Here. Mr. Willingham >> here. >> Miss Wilson present. Please rise for the pledge of allegiance.
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run live on the city's community TV channel. On today's uh meeting, our new business is to review and approve the slate of candidates who will serve on the screening committee for the superintendent search. Everybody has had the opportunity to
have the list of all of the people who were willing and able to serve in this screening committee. I want to extend my biggest gratitude to everybody who put their name and took the time to go out
of their way and volunteer for this work. given that there's a time commitment, multiple days at the end of the day where everybody has a job and they have to go get out of their job and go do this. So, I really appreciate everybody.
What was the final number of candidates, Miss Feliciano? 51 candidates. So, not a bad problem to have that people want to serve, but now it is our job to choose who are going to
be in the screening committee. Mr. Sheen. >> Yeah. I also just want to thank the folks but I uh that applied but also the people who responded back and made the commitment. It is I mean when we put out the emails saying can you make all the dates like even if you can't make an
hour of one date I mean all of the interviews are happening like everyone has to be at every interview and that's something the committee expects that and if someone doesn't attend part of it then they unfortunately have to leave the screening committee so it's it's that all or nothing type of um aspect on it. So, um, with it. So, I think that's
important. Now, um, that's all I was going to say. We can review the rest of the dates for the committee committee's role after. >> Mr. Will, >> thank you. How many votes to um win the vote?
One member is not here. That's why I'm asking. two members. >> So, we would need six votes. >> Thank you, >> Miss Wilson. >> I might have been in my thoughts and you might have clarified this already. How
many individuals are we looking for in total to be on this committee? >> 11 to 13. 11 to 13. All right. So, I just want to I it's just it's it's going to be um
a process to get down from that that high number of interested parties. So, okay. 11 to 13. >> Mr. Willian, >> do we have any student applicants? >> So, as of today, we do not, but we want
to have student candidates there. So we have to save a spot for a student at least. >> Thank you. >> Mr. A, >> what was the process for the students? How are they notified of the survey application if that's the route that you
guys were we were planning on them doing it or what was done within the school? And are we also looking at maybe one middle school and um high school? >> Yes. To the last one. But the way that
um so we put out the communication to the whole community through the communications channels from HPS. There was a focus group of students that happened at both the high schools from
MASC and they were notified then that there was an opportunity to serve in this committee and then there was um email communication from Mr. to the principles of the schools to recruit students for the screening committee. We also miss Feliciano also sent an email
to our student reps to see if they were interested or if there was anybody who might be interested that they might know and that was the extent of the recruitment. Go ahead Miss >> what was the deadline for the principles
to give feedback if they did find a candidate? So I I mean we left it open until to whenever they from the moment they got the communication till now. >> Is there you know like after this
meeting following up with Mr. Sodto to see if he heard back from the principles or did the principles not they weren't specified to get back to them and more so it was the student. Um it's just we we can't wait around but I want to make
sure we have their representation. >> I think that the what I heard from the from Mr. Sodto was that some of the students who might be interested could not make all the dates. So that's why they were not.
I'm just worried that we're too much focused on student government students versus because a lot of students they might be part of the let's say the national honor society they're then they have sports and this because this is the
problem that we face in here right and this is and it shouldn't always just be that only student >> government students are the ones that are being offered these opportunities it should be open to every student right? >> You know, they don't have to be like in
all these clubs or anything. I want somebody true that >> that's going to want to give their feedback and really look be part of that team to find our next superintendent. >> Yeah, absolutely. And there was no um
constraints that they had to be a part of anything. It was open to any student who was available. Mr. machine. >> And I'll just say the focus group that was held was held open to any student who wanted to attend. It wasn't students were not invited to the focus group.
They were or like picked out. Anyone was invited to attend. So like the touch points of people get in there. But I'll also say like I'd love to have a student, but it is it's five dates for multip. the committee is I mean leaving it open for students to apply is fine but it's
also knowing that there's we will have to have which is fine to have a special meeting but we're going to have to have a special meeting and vote on someone because it can't just be an open-ended like and we'll have to leave a space open on the committee and someone would get voted on at the organizational meeting and then have to serve two days
later like that's the only but I mean I know that the principles just from hearing and from other staff that like there there was active recruitment in the schools and it I I think a lot of it is time prohibitive. I mean you talk about students that are engaging students they're athletes and in drama
and all these different things but they're in stuff after school too like that's like I said it's hard for all of us to or if you know I mean everyone here on this committee has contact with students like I would also say like what engagement did anyone here make with
getting people to sign up? I mean this was also on the 10 of us. I just have some new information. There are two students >> who put their names forward. Sorry. >> Go ahead. Keep talking, Mr. Sheen. Keep talking.
>> I'm waiting on confirmation on the last name of one of them. But we have What schools do they attend? Do you know? >> Holio High School. >> Holy school. So I I Yeah.
Mr. Do we know if they are all they they're committed to all the dates? >> Yes. >> So we have two available students. Excuse me. Excuse me. Can I see Can I see what I have written in there?
Okay, I got it. I got it. Okay. Miss Wilson. So I'm wondering for the process um I've broken down the categories um of each person um who's applied and if they've checked off um what you know
what group they belong to. If a person checked off both parent, guardian, and community member, they're in both columns on the list I gave you. Because I was trying to think to myself, how can I visually um help myself understand who
I'm placing in this group to make sure we have a representation of all individuals. And the only groups I don't have are the students, but I just wrote in there. So, I just wanted to share with you what I did. um to assist us in
this process. And I'm wondering, Madame Vice Chair, is it appropriate if we determine how many people in each category we're placing prior to then moving into the individuals? >> Absolutely. Okay. So, I'd like to make a
motion that if we are looking for 13 individuals. My motion is that we have 1 2 3 4 five six categories. I say we have two from each of those categories. Two from
parent guardian, two from community member, two from the educator group, two from administration, two from other, two from elected officials, and two from students. >> I second that.
>> Well, that's seven groups. Sorry. >> All right. So I would say then um >> so then I would then bring it down to one from other instead of my two I would like to then amend. Oh we haven't voted yet so I don't have
to amend. Um I would like to then um shift then to just one of the other and that would bring us 2 4 6 8 10 12 13. That would bring us to 13. >> So motion B made by Miss Wilson,
seconded by Miss Tensley Williams. Discussion. Miss Lefave. I kind of thought differently because education administration still has to do within the school system. And then on top of that, we have the
elected officials. Um, so in my opinion, it's my opinion. Two parents, three community members, that's five. Two educators, seven. One
administration, eight. You have two elected officials, 10. Um then I guess two and one or one other because they kind of all blended into community member and parent
but you have some business owners and other >> um and two students then one two right that's 13 >> I mean that's what I was thinking right I'm not saying that it's a motion or I'm
amending I'm just thinking We're having discussion. >> Mr. Will, >> thank you. Um, do we have the names of the students? >> I have the name of one student for sure. Let me see if I get the other.
>> Do you have them, Miss Phelis? >> I'm waiting for them to email me. >> Okay. Well, one of them is Addison Rodriguez. Addison like a d i s o n. >> Yeah.
>> Their address, please. >> They're students, so we're not publicly sharing their address. That's the only reason because they're underage. >> What school? High School.
>> Holio High School. Yes. Okay, I'm just going to reserve my right to vote for anybody on the list. >> Sounds good, Mr. Willian. >> Seeing that the uh >> Miss Lauron Martinez, go ahead. >> Thank you for recognizing me. Seeing
that we did not consider in the past the students can we add on to make it ament number to say 14 >> to make it 14 >> I know but is it it's only 13 I'm saying can we say 14 you can't even it out so
that you get a chance of two representative from each group or >> so an even number is not a good thing for committees just in general Oh, >> because of ties and such things. >> True. True. I didn't realize that. Yep.
True. >> Mr. Sheen, >> I'm also going to point out that looking at this there's a lot of people like >> that fall in multiple categories. So even when you're like looking at it, so you don't have to think like even some of the >> others even people in the other column
fall in other columns. So just like no, this is what they self- selected. So they could >> fall into others. And I mean we may just want to look at a system of picking one from each bucket first and then seeing for the other ones so we at least have representation from each one of the categories and then looking how to build
out the rest of the group if we are lacking in a certain area. But that's I mean two two and two is good too like it doesn't having some sort of system. So at this point we still have a motion on the floor. >> Is that the end of the discussion? Are
there any amendments? >> Seeing none. All those in favor? I >> hold on. Show hand. Showing hands. Yes. In favor? >> In favor. All those in favor raise your
hand. >> So the motion is that we have two individuals from the parent garden guardian selection, two from community members, two from the educators, two from administration,
two from elected officials, two from students, and one from other. 2 4 6 8 10 12 13. And that would be 13. And that was my motion. That was seconded. >> Yeah. Okay. I favor that. Thank you. >> Okay. All those in favor, please raise
your hands. >> So I have five votes. Against one, two, three, four votes. That's true. Sorry. Go again. Against. >> Against.
>> No. Who are you? Okay. Start all over. >> Okay. Let's start all over again. All those in favor raise your hands. One, two, three, four, five. Against. One, two, three. There we go.
Oh, you passed me. >> Motion passes. 523. Great >> for the names for the voting of the names. >> No, he asked at the beginning of the meeting. >> Point of order. If there's 10 10 members
of the committee, right, should be six votes for a majority. Whether they're here or not, the body is 10. >> Mr. Sheen, >> I'd take a look at our rules. I think it's members present. I don't have my computer with me.
>> It's 10 people to establish quorum, but it to like you count it even if you have vacancies, but for votes, it's members present. Under BEDF voting method, all actions will require a majority vote of all members present and voting except as
stated in Robert rules of order newly revised or policies that require a larger majority. So again, it's a member of all bodies present. Of all members present. >> Thank you, Miss Wilson. Motion passes.
>> Point of order. >> So for clarification, earlier in the meeting, we said we wanted to have six votes for uh for putting someone for candidates going forward. Are we staying with our six that was made by this group for this
decision or are we going with our policy BEDF which is a majority of those present? >> I believe we should stick with the policy. Thank you, Miss Wilson. >> Mr. Sheen,
>> sorry. I'm just starting going starting on the left and starting with the parent and guardian. I'm going to um make a nomination for Kate Sullivan Craraven. >> Second >> nomination made by Mr. Sheen, seconded
by Miss Lefave. discussion. >> Nominate nominate. >> Well, we have one. We have one right now. So we gota if you have a comment not then we take a vote and then
>> Miss Wilson >> can we just clarify the so clarify the process I understand that it was stated we were going to start with the left column on the sheet I created and it was a parent guardian which I believe was the first selection choice anyway. Um I
just want to clarify what is the process as can anyone nominate an individual and if so just wanted to share that. >> Yes. >> Miss Laura Martinez
>> in regards to that um nominating someone. What do you mean nominating someone outside of this list or nomin number two? >> Oh. Oh, okay. I'm sorry. >> Right here. >> Okay. No, >> so to clarify, Miss Wilson, we are
looking right now. We We are looking for two individuals from the list from the individuals who have volunteered so graciously. We're looking for two parent from this list of individuals. Um we
have one nominated and seconded and I believe the next step would be to vote on that and then we would probably move and then we can then discuss are we going to go across or are we going to fill both in that area.
So just to clarify for those individuals >> Mr. I would make a recommendation for the equity of the committee and participation to go down the list at the table and to see if other people want to nominate someone from any of the buckets following the rules of the two two two
one two2 two but so I just started with parent or guardian but I would say like let people have the opportunity so one person can't dominate the nominating process but that's just a suggestion I just wanted to motion >> nope because there's already a motion on the floor I would leave it up to the
prerogative of the chair and unless anyone wants a challenger >> miss we're on this motion the nomination >> okay and going back to the fact that again these people can also be in two
different categories. So let's be specific to this one individual that has already is the first current person that's being recommended to be nominated for this for the for the committee. Okay. The person identified as parent
guardian, community member. So right now technically the person could either fall under parent guardian or community member. So it's going to be hard to even say let's start with this
category more so provide we keep a tab of who we are recommending and then if we have more than the allotted amount in a certain category then we take it upon each category and
then vote on it to say to bring it down to the final two for that category because that person technically can fit into two categories. So there could be two other parents that are going to be recommended. So now it's three, but one may be in that one. The other parent
might actually be in the educator, you know, because they pick so many different categories that they kind of fit into. That's so I mean right now we're just starting with the mere fact that we have our first
um nominee and you know we can keep tabs of of who we have under which and then at the end if we see we have too many under a certain category then that's where we start diving it down. And also remember representation
when we're looking at geographical as well as you know just equitable across the board. >> So I could nominate someone. >> We have one. We haven't even voted on her.
>> Okay. >> Miss Wilson. It seems I believe you made a suggestion, Mr. Sheen, that maybe we go down the list in the parent guardian to see if anyone
would want to put anyone's name out. So, and then so and then move from that grouping to then like lower down the numbers within the group by who we would
recommend within the group. And then we focus on dwindling down from there. >> There's a motion. >> No. Miss Lef, >> can we take the vote on the person that's been nominated or or recommended?
>> All right. Mr. Willahan. >> Oh, go ahead. Okay. Yes. So, show of hands. >> All those in favor of the nomination. Two.
>> This particular person. >> Yes. Four. We have four. Five in favor. So that makes it how many against the nomination.
>> Abstain that motion passes. >> Yes. 53. >> 503 or 53 like what is >> five? Nobody zero Z3. Yeah. Go ahead.
>> Who? Me? >> A fave. >> Who? Me? Yeah, you. Okay. So, see now I'm going to go in a different I uh nominate Christian Cardi, community member.
All right. >> All right. Motion made and seconded. Discussion. Miss Leon Martinez. To be honest with you, this is very confusing because I thought you we were going to stay through parent >> and then go into the community.
>> Sullivan is also a community member. >> So, >> so now we don't have a chance to vote for a parent again. >> Yeah, we'll have to go through all the money. >> You're going to get called on after nominate someone. >> Okay. >> Okay. Okay.
>> All right. discussion. See none of those in favor. Show of hands. One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Against abstains. >> 701.
Motion passes. Miss Laura Martinez. I'd like to nominate um Deborah Rodriguez. She's a which category >> parent, guardian, and she's also community member listed.
>> Okay. >> Do I have a second? >> Second by Mr. Isasa. Discussion. Seeing none. Oh, Mr. Wilson. Sorry. Go ahead. I just want to make a a take a moment though for those who of people
who are watching at home and being here in the process that we've had this list. We've been able to review it. It's not just like we're um just got these names and now we're just going along and agreeing with everyone. Um just to be very clear, we have the information that
was presented. We were given this several days ago to review, look in depth so that we can make educated decisions. I just want to be clear to our community. >> Thank you, Miss Wilson.
And on that note, I also want to recognize that there's some of the members of some of the candidates present in person and some online as well. So, thank you for being here. All right, Miss Tensley Williams, I
nominated Never mind. We haven't voted yet. >> Oh, >> okay. >> Great. >> All those in favor for Deborah Rodriguez. One, one, two, three, four, five, six,
seven. Oh, passes unanimously. Nice. Now it's your turn, Miss Tensley Williams. Sorry. I nominate Patty Lavole. Um, she's a parent also, but she's on our committee, too.
>> Second. >> Seconded by Miss Lefave. Discussion. Miss Wilson. >> So then this is we're looking at Patty Lubold as an elected official. I just want to make that clarity to individuals
at home. So, okay. Do we need all those in favor? >> I >> show of hands in favor. >> One, two, three, four, five, six, seven. Okay. Unanimously.
Thank you. Wow, Mr. Isasa. So easy, huh? >> All those in favor? >> I I second it, but nominated. >> Oh, sorry. You second it. Yeah, Miss Tensley Williams seconded. Discussion. >> Miss Wilson. So, while I believe that
Mr. Sheen has um very good qualities. U we already have one school committee member and I um I am not I just you want to you know throw that out there that we already have one school committee member. We only have um four elected
officials that have um but they also fall in different categories. So I'm I just want to throw that out for knowledge. >> Miss Fave. So, if I'm not mistaken, we said two under
that's what everybody voted under elected official and then the other two were taken off because they cannot commit. So, at the end of the day, we've only got two. That's why I said, "Wow, you guys picked the easiest section."
>> Yeah. >> All right. >> Did anybody second that? And it was also the recommendation of MAC that we would have two school committee members. But all right, any further discussion?
All those in favor? >> I. >> Right. Unanimous. Mr. Wellan. Nominate Ann Brennan. I second that
made and seconded discussion and I'd like to um have her listed under educator. I'm not sure if you were thinking that Mr. Willahan or were you thinking in a different category? >> Mr. I thought we had Ambra and us not uh
responding to our question about dates. >> She miss >> So I was going to say exactly what Mr. Isaza was saying and so here's the thing that we all have to be very careful on.
We nominate them and then we choose for them to be there and then afterwards comes out that they can't attend a meeting. The the reason why we ask is because there should not be not one meeting missed, >> right?
So in my opinion I or for me I can't say okay when I not even sure that they can commit unless before this meeting ends somebody can get to them and tell them to send Miss Feliciano an email saying that they can >> because they have until the end of this
meeting to determine whether or not they can commit. When we're here to vote for for and nominate individuals, it's because they are saying that yes, they can commit to that time and we are putting our trust in them to fulfill that commitment.
>> Mr. Orland, >> I mean, the opposite argument is that, you know, somebody says they can commit and then something comes up and they can't, right? So, we're just going on good faith here. You know, if if they say they can't, they can't. But the fact
that someone didn't respond, I don't take that as a they a >> Mr. Fab. >> I can see if there's extranuating um emergency services um emergency situations, but I'm sure that when the email went
out, people can technically look at their calendar right now and say, "Well, as of right now, yes, I can commit right now." I can't tell you if tomorrow I'm going to be in a car accident. Now I can't. That's a different story that we can all say, you know, unfortunately
this happened. Understandable. But if you know well in advance because maybe on January 21st you had some event to attend or there was a meeting that you know you couldn't um get out of for work, then technically
you knew ahead of time. It's very easy to say yes or no. We did have plenty of people who came back and said, "Withdraw my name. I cannot commit." Another one that said, "I'm willing to, but I can't do this date or that day." Which now that helped us to know that no, they
can't commit to all the dates. All we were asking is just as of right now, is there anything on your calendar that says that you can't go one of those specific dates? That's all we were asking. >> Mr. Will
>> and I move the question which is not debatable. Do we have a second? >> You seconded the move to question. >> No. I seconded the motion. >> Sorry. Since there's no second, motion fails.
Back on the previous motion. Any further discussion? All right. All those in favor? Two. Three. >> This Can we >> Someone who can't make it. We're voting
on. >> Okay. >> Go ahead. >> I'm sorry. Go ahead. >> Against. >> One, two, three, four, five, and no abstensions.
350. Motion fails. Miss Wilson, I would like to nominate um someone in the administration and I would like to nominate uh Missto. I I'm going to um
not pronounce the first name correctly. Um and I do not want to embarrass myself. Charis >> just wanted to make sure I wasn't going to so I that is what I'm nominating for administration >> so
>> seconded by Mr. Isasa discussion all those in favor >> I show of hands >> okay it's unanimous sure Mr. Christian
>> Dr. Rivera Cologne, do you have a nomination? >> Thank you so much. I nominate for administration Ryan Kerry. >> Is there a second? >> I second that too. >> Sec. >> Any discussion?
All those in favor? Oh, discussion. Okay. Okay. All those in favor, please raise your hands. Can you keep your hands up? Five in favor. All those opposed, raise your hand.
Two. Any abstensions? >> Mrs. Lebrone Martinez, we need some sort of vote. Yes, no, or abstain. >> It's just that I I'm sorry. I was still considering that we're going through the list of the parent. Then we >> we just need a vote. We can't There's no
discussion. So yes, no, or >> that'll be the second. Yes, I'll do that. >> That was six in favor, two opposed. >> Thank you, Mr. >> I nominate Lisa Smith cornering guardian. Second.
>> She's also a teacher. Oh, she's a therapist as well. A Smith Okconor as and you said under parent. >> Well, yeah, just she's also other the therapist. >> So, cuz >> she's under
guardian, >> but we already have two. Miss a fave, >> can we just put forth the people that we would like right now and then not focus so much under what category we're going to put them in? >> Then
>> on our paper, your own paper, you can kind of mix match, put them wherever, put them in two, three, four categories. And then after we go back to each category and we dwindle them down. And if we want somebody so bad from that
category that's already been filled, then maybe they fall into another category and that's the category. And again, looking at demographics geographically, um I don't know if that's doable. I just
think there's some things that were written in everybody's why they are interested and what their experience is that some of us felt like this person would really be good right obviously if they're a parent community
member I can't put them under administration but afterwards we can go back and just look at it and dwindle it down and pick the best candidates but for right now if we can just give who we really like and and think like it's going to
do um you know be a an asset to the to the committee then so be it after we can crunch it down >> always eliminate >> Miss Wilson Miss Tensley Williams
>> um Jamie >> not yet >> I'm sorry no I am >> Miss Wilson We made a motion and it passed that we were going to have two in each category. That's what we made a
motion to do. So I'm conf So I understand the question of keep adding just going I'm just not understanding that. So right now we have people who think that
when we voted them in that they they're in as of right now. These 1, two, three, four, five, six, seven people that we've already voted. I believe they think that they are on this group now because we
voted in favor of them. And that's what I was voting for. I wasn't voting for dwindling down the number. I was voting for who I wanted on the group. So I I'm I'm just I'm I'm very confused.
I I feel this is not >> as I had envisioned in the organized man manner I had envisioned. >> Mr. Sheen, >> can we just get is it possible to get consensus from the committee that we can accept the fact that we filled the spots
for elected officials and administration? >> I'm just wondering because I mean >> it's I I don't see a lot of duplicate like I I see two names like can we can we cons we get consensus on that that we've filled those two? >> I'm not even looking for I'm just are
are people in disagreement at all that we've filled those categories? >> Yeah. If not, I need to know why. Like I just need to understand >> Miss Leave. >> So it's just me, but it's not even my turn yet. And I know there's I think who was it? Who was next after you? Right.
So when we decided to put Yalis Sto under administration, she was also under community member and parent. And >> I um was also thinking of Mr. Vicente,
right? That that's another good candidate who's also served on many things, but that's why I said, huh? >> Oh, he didn't respond. >> Oh, I'm sorry. Okay, then we're good. All right. Thank you. So, be gone. Be off.
>> I'm just wondering, is there consensus? Like, can we get consensus that we've filled those categories? >> Elected official administration. Can we also like do we have the other student's name? >> I'm just waiting for send me back his
last. >> Okay. Do we have a first name? >> Oh, yeah. It's our studentto. >> Sorry. I'm like you, Miss Hilton. I'll butcher it. >> I mean, seeing that there were only two students, can we agree that Addison Rodriguez and Erberto, our student rep,
are the >> I move. >> I second that. >> Second that. >> I so move. >> Second. >> Moved and second. All those in favor? I
>> show hands. Unanimous. Okay, >> that's all I have. >> Thank you. >> I just He went out of turn. She ruled it out of order. It was out of I would defer
nominate. I would defer to get someone else he wanted to nominate. I don't feel comfort. >> Yes. Mr. Willahing, do you have another nomination? We're deferring to you since the previous one failed. >> We already went by meeting back, right?
>> Well, yes. >> Okay. Okay. Um, >> put me on the spot. >> Sorry. We can give you another turn. >> Did we discuss about Jamie? >> Who was the last one that was thrown out that was ruled out of order?
>> The last name. >> Mrs. Muro. Second. >> Can I nominate Lisa Smith Okconor? >> Of course >> I will. >> All right. Second. >> Second. >> Seconded by Mr. Isasa.
Discussion. Mr. Willian. >> Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. Uh, Miss um, Wanner is a therapist and um, I know throughout the year we've been struggling to fill those those um, jobs
and um, we've had to um, go outside the district and um, contract out. So, I appreciate her service. Thank you, >> Miss Wilson. >> I just want to clarify. Um, did Miss
Smith Myth Okconor note that she is an HPS employee or she just works at the schools because she could be coming into our schools but be employed by someone else to provide uh her services. So, I just wanted to clarify Mr. Wilhen's point. I'm not sure.
She's >> Any further discussion? Miss Densley Williams. >> Was there a reason why we said no for Jamie Carter? Because we already had two in that category. >> We haven't done that one yet. >> Okay. I mentioned it and someone said no. Oh, because it wasn't your turn yet.
>> Oh, I'm sorry. >> Yes. >> Okay, >> that's that's it. Nothing. >> Sorry, sweetheart. >> Okay. Any Mr. Sheen? >> So, just for clarity before I vote with the other people, are did we put Kate Sullivan, Craven, and Deborah Rodriguez in the categories of parent or guardian
or community member? >> I lots Irene's raising like what? >> Miss Wilson. Initially when we voted that's who we put those two individuals in. Um Miss Lefabe has brought to our attention though that some people fall
in two different categories. So for example um if we said Lis Lisa Smith Okconor could be put under a community member because she always she also checked off community member. So under the parent
it might be full but she could be added under community member as just so you know >> right just so so she could be community member >> correct >> Lisa Smith >> she's listed as community >> any further discussion
can I get a clar ification on the motion. Yes, it was a nomination for Lisa Smith Oconor. Thank you. All right. Seeing no further discussion, all those in favor raise your hands. One, two,
three, four. Opposed. One, two, three. Abstain. >> So, it was five. Yes. >> I didn't see you when I looked. So, 53
>> on. I'm sorry. >> I did. It's her head. >> She's under the the community member or the parent the one that we just voted on >> community member. >> Okay. >> So, >> Mr. Sheen,
>> can we just also get consensus now that parent or guardian and community member are full? the team member in what >> parent and guardian are full >> which means you can >> so we're only looking now for
>> educator >> one two educators one other >> nomination >> we only have three nominations left >> now we only have three dominations so if she has one Jamie Cado
>> educator. >> But now we need an educator or other >> Jamie Cado is an educator. >> What happened? Miss Lefave. >> Okay, Mr. >> Oh, no. I'm sorry.
>> Educator. >> Yeah, we had one from Mr. Willahan because we went back. So it should go back to Mr. Sheen, but we only have a few left. So I know that we are not gonna get >> All right.
So we have motion nomination for Hoto seconded by Mr. Isasa. Discussion for educator Mr. Shien. Can I ask is he still a current educator? Like does he still work for the
districts? >> It looked he said Miss Wilson it's typed worked but it says for over 15 years. So but then it also says because the students matter to me very much because I'm trying to think of the past tense or
present tense versus to kind of glean that. But does does that So, um, >> I don't think that was part of Never mind. Miss Lra Martinez
>> does he still work in the district? >> I'll just say it's I personally it's important that I think for the two educator spots that they're current HPS employees. >> How do I get out of that? >> You can withdraw your nomination. I withdraw. >> All right.
>> Are we clear? He's not currently. >> I see him at everything. So, I don't know if he's >> Is that something we can check now? >> Could we Mr. F. >> So, can we also clarify when we're
looking at the educator right section, there are people who consider themselves educators, but yes, they are. They used to work in the Holio public public school systems, but now they're in a different public school system, but have they're they're still educating have
their kids in our district. Are those who we may consider under educator or no? You want educators that are currently working inside of the Holy Public Schools.
>> That's what I need. All I'm saying is my preference to vote on people and we can go through with the nomination. I would prefer an active employee. That's not what the that's Devon Sheen's pre preference. That's not necessarily the preference of the committee, but in like what I'm looking for is an active
>> educator in the PS >> because I'm just I'm just asking because like we just said um with Mr. Croto he is not even working like he's >> and we received confirmation that is no not a current employee and in HBS.
>> Yeah. That he's not working for HBS. Yeah. >> Mr. Sheen, >> can I make an uh um nomination under the other category? Um and it's going to be for Joan Matali Malia.
Do we have a second? >> Seconded by Mr. Willahan. Discussion >> John Matalia. >> It was for the other category. >> Miss Wilson, I'm just going to say this out loud.
We are looking quite caucasian. We are not representing our community and it concerns me a favor. And we're also not looking geographically equitable either. discussion. Mr. Sheen,
>> I'm just going to say I'm not going to selfidentify people. We didn't ask for >> demographic information. Like I mean, I'm not going to make assumptions off of anyone. I mean, I'll trust that you say that we're not balanced, but I don't I don't have a way to interpret that from
the information that I was provided. You can look you geographic you can look at addresses because we have that but I can't pick who I mean I can't pick people's cultural background ethnicities or lived experiences from the information that we have. >> Agreed.
>> I'm just I can't I mean I can't determine from the information I was given. I can't >> I don't know that >> I can't get all of them. That's why I didn't put my name. Discussion on the nominee. All right. All those in favor?
Raise your hand. >> Yeah. Voting on candidate Joe Matsalia. All those in favor, please raise your hand. All those in favor? One, two, three, four, five. All right.
Opposed. One. So that's a 710. That's it. I wish we asked that question but we didn't miss a f
if someone let me guess. We're all done right now. It's just educator. Am I right? We haven't chosen educators. >> Two educator educators. Yeah. >> And we don't have anybody from W one or
two represented here at all. But again, we're going because >> there's only 11 to13 members. >> Thank you, Mr. >> And I honestly I will give up my spot for Miss Lefave. >> No, no. Seriously, to have someone from
Ward One, I mean, I will absolutely No, no. I'm I'm saying that I will remove myself from my spot for you to serve so we have representation from W one. >> Me too. >> Or I'll give it up for Miss Leone Martinez, too, so we have some from W
one or two. I would absolutely. >> Right. >> Exactly. I'm too I'd love to do it. >> I would I will willingly. I mean, just so we have if Ms. in favor. Miss Lebron Martinez, >> if I
>> How many meetings would we have to have? >> It's on the list. It's the five meetings from January. >> I could probably do the five from board, too, cuz that's my board. I'd love to >> I'm I'm just going to I was going to nominate myself seeing that I have not seen the balance here, >> right? >> Um and and we and we have to be frank
about this. We were giving rece >> getting out of receiverhip for the reason being that we're going to have a process that is going to be representing the population that is being serving our school system. And this is why I was having a hard time considering what I
see. And unfortunately to be honest with you, I also misunderstood. I thought that we would be automatically part of it, but we had to actually apply and that was not clear to me. Yeah. >> So, I want to make that um publicly known that I would had applied knowing
that we're needing to represent >> that question. In the meeting that we talked about how the screening committee was going to be formed, someone bring brought up the question how how are we going to be selected and that question was answered that everybody had to apply. That was a question that was
asked and answered in the meeting where we talked about the screening committee. you missed that. >> The other thing is that we are the ones who are going to have the final say on the candidates once they the screening committee makes the recommendation. So, it's still our job to actually pick the
person who's going to be there. If you are available for the dates, Mr. Sheen has offered his spot. So, you are more than welcome to take his spot as as the school committee representative. >> That's what I was saying.
So the dates are all run from at least 6:00 to 9:30 and I mean Mr. Wellen and I did and I did this 12 years ago and they can run longer than 9:30. I I will be honest with that, especially when it comes to deliberations.
>> And it's January 8th, January 13th, January 15th, January 20th, and January 21st. >> And that is 6 to 9:30. >> But it's it's 9:30, but it could especially the later meetings like when
you deliberate could because the thought is you'd have multiple interviews and then you deliberate. It's Tuesdays and Thursdays. >> And just for everyone who did apply, like just all the people that are here, like if they drop out between now and then, we'll have to fill it because you can't miss one hour. Like that's the
because 1 hour is one interview. I'm if it's the committee's I'm more than willing to withdraw to have represent geographic representation in the city and >> but we need just one >> school >> my question again um let me ask let me
go back to what what I'm explaining so the the the candidate still is going to come in front of us we're still going to make a final vote it's not necessarily the committee >> yes >> okay >> no no you can I mean the concern from the committee is geographic representation and this is easy if you
can make those dates work like I would I I applied because there was a lack of committee members that applied so I mean I am also with >> negotiations >> Dr. Rivera Cologne like most of those are negotiation dates so I wouldn't be there and she would be going so I mean
by all means like if you can commit to those dates and we'll have representation because it was important for Miss Lefay to have representation from W one or two um that Right. But like I'm >> all right. >> If you can commit like I'm I it is I'm
aok. Okay. >> Devin the eth Tuesday. >> I don't know. >> I just the date. >> Does anybody have >> It's not a Tuesday because that's our organization. >> It's a Thursday. >> Yeah. >> Thursday.
So I I have to step out because of some other commitment that is coming up. >> Okay. >> I'm doing a research and >> Okay. >> I would say I wish that had been if that was something that people felt strongly about it that when we had the questions
for the form for the screening committee that people would have asked for award because that would have been something that we could have done. Mr. a fave. >> But I think it's also our due diligence that when we're looking at not only at but by what they're writing, right? But
you're also looking at their address kind of figuring out, okay, where am I getting this information from, right? >> Who is representing the most here? >> Who is interested that can commit as well? >> But we don't have that representation.
Sometimes we have to put aside who we know and who we want and look at making sure that we fill this where it's >> everybody >> a representation across the board. >> So yes, I did say we're missing one and two, but it doesn't matter now anymore
because >> well it does matter. >> No, at the end of the day we've already bucketed and filled those positions. That's why I said from the very beginning, some people fall under different categories. And if we can maneuver them, but we're going to stick to what we all decided is going to be
it, so be it. That's how it is. So >> So how would you how would you amend it? >> How would you amend it so that then there would be representation from those words? Well, we could have make sure that we had two in administration
when I originally had said you know thinking out loud because that's what I do. I think out loud and people don't like that but anyways you had two from parent guardian and we said three community member that's what I had said three community member giving them the
extra so it outweighs the mere fact that you have more to have to do with education and administration and elected officials that's like you know sometimes as parents when you're sitting at that table with staff you
kind of feel like who really am I right? Cuz everybody seems above you, right? And like you're you're you're wondering if what you're saying they're actually hearing or just making you believe they're hearing it. So it's that same thing of not having like that true
voice. But if we had exceeded more on wanting more from the community, I mean, we wanted the community's vote when we wanted a middle school. We wanted everybody to get involved. >> Then why should we have added two for administration? Then we have the two elected officials.
Then we have two educators that that kind of offset it. There were parents in here from Ward one that I I saw specifically one that could make it and actually not W one, W two.
Okay. And it's W two down in South Holio that was willing to commit. We can't put that person to recommend. Why? Because the person's just a parent. Right. >> Mr. Sheen, >> once again, if it's the committee's will, take me off and fill it with a
community member. You can do what you want. I don't need to be on this. >> Okay. >> I mean, if right, but we can we can change it. We can change it to one. If if you don't want that, if if you want to, we can take a vote. I am not going to be hurt. If you want balance, it is easy to remove me from the committee. I
have faith in Mrs. Lubold to carry that on her shoulders with that. But like it is um but to do that like I am an easy replacement. Like I am here and saying replace it, change it up if you want representation from another uh ward,
>> whatever. I don't just miss Wilson. I make the motion that we remove um Devon Chien from the elected official voted in um in order to have uh better representation in our community member group. So I'm recommending that
we only have one. >> I'll second. >> Well, we do have to vote because we did make a motion earlier that we were going to have two. So I'm going to now shift and uh >> I second that. >> Do we have a second? M
>> Williams >> discussion >> community member any further discussion all those in favor raise your hand all right it's unanimous it's just that you
you get tired. >> All right, so we have now three community members spots. >> Mr. Willahan nominate. >> There is one spot left for a community
member. Two for educators. Yep. No problem. >> Miss Fave, you guys are going to love me on this one. >> Oh, no. And I'm just so technically
right now you have what? One community member spot and no parent spots, right? But if people were to look at it and go back to those names, they would see that those people also put themselves as
community member, which would open up the spot. Miss Feliciano, please don't look at me. Um, that would open up a parent spot that might have be able to appoint someone or nominate someone from
board two. >> All right, perfect. Carlen Lopez, parent. >> Do we have a second? >> Yes. >> Seconded by Miss Wilson. >> Discussion. >> What's the name? It's she's
>> Lopez Lopez. >> You're going according to she We're all just silent nomination. >> Any further discussion? All those in favor?
Show hands. All right. Unanimous. Point of order. We need to make a motion again for Kate Sullivan because a motion was made that she would join as a parent guardian and if we're shifting her over to community member, we should vote
again for that. >> Would not move? >> No, because I I act the my motion was we added a third to community member. That was my motion. And so if you shift if you put Carlen and Deborah as parents,
we need to shift Kate Sullivan Craraven over to community member. So it would be Kate Sullivan Craraven, Lisa Smith, and Christian Card Card. Um, so we would have to then vote again for Kate Sullivan Craraven
now as a community member. Wait, that one. But the motion was made for us to that we the motion was that she was voted in as a representative in the parent garden category. We are now if we stay with what we just did. We had two for parent
guardian, three for community member, two for educator, two administration, one elected official, one other two students. So you would have we would have to then vote again for Kate Sullivan under community member. >> I'll make a motion. >> Second.
>> Second. Seconded by Miss Wilson. >> All those in favor? I >> I. Any opposed? >> Miss L Martinez. I'm sorry. I was reading. Go ahead. >> You're voting on the moving it. Yeah.
Yeah. Yes. >> That's unanimous. Motion passes. >> All right. So, now we're down to educators. >> I have a question. >> Okay. Go ahead, Miss Tensley Williams. >> Um, Anthony Sto.
He lives on Raymond Avenue. He's a police officer and I nice guy and I think he would we kind of like need him >> from all walks of life. I think we need we can >> we already filled that.
>> Okay then. All right. >> We only have the educator bucket left. >> Mr. Sheen, >> I don't want to dominate anything. Does anyone care if I suggest an educator? We don't need to vote yet. I just want to suggest a name. because we only have two spots. So, just reading through here, I
was going to suggest the name of Netor Muriel >> works in the district. High school teacher. >> Yep. >> I thought he in the district. >> Yeah. Yeah. He has an HPS email. I mean, I'm >> He's a high school teacher.
>> Second. >> I I wasn't making the motion. >> It's not a motion. You can You can make the motion if you want. I was just >> No, I'm sorry. It was your turn. I already made mine. >> I've made a couple. So, >> I move Mr. Moriel. >> Okay. Motion made by Mr. Isasa. Do we
have a second? >> Seconded by Miss Martinez. Discussion. All those in favor, raise your hands. Two, three, five, six, seven. Opposed
one zero abstensions 710 motion passes Mr. Isasa. >> I move Sadi Child scorer. >> Do we have a second? >> Second. >> Seconded by Miss Tensley Williams
child. discussion that would fulfill the last spot in the educator's bin. And I do like Miss Wilson, >> I do like that she's part of the uh dual language program. I think that's a positive to >> any further discussion.
All those in favor. >> All right, raise your hands. >> Oh, all those in favor? >> Yep. Okay, motion passes unanimously. I hate to do this, Miss Wilson. I hate to do this, but I I am. I'm going to make a motion that we select one more
individual in each category of parent, community member, educator, elected official, other administration in case someone drops out prior to the starting so that we could just move them into the slot. That would be my motion. >> A wait list.
>> I'll wait somebody seconds. Is there a second? >> I'll second that. >> Seconded by Miss Lar Martinez. Discussion. Miss Lefave. >> So I just want to make sure that we're very clear that this would be um if they withdraw their name prior to the start
of the meeting, not if something happens by the third meeting, now the next one. It's just prior to the start. We know we contact these next people. Okay? And it's still from the people that have committed as of right now today. >> That is my intent.
>> Okay. Excellent. Thank you, >> Mr. Quite here. The motion is it to uh choose substitutes. Is that what we doing? >> To to choose substitutes in case someone drops out before the first meeting. >> One per category. Is that what we're saying?
>> Mr. Sheen. I'm just >> Well, it wouldn't be per category because there's not another student, >> right? I'm just >> I mean, with the exception of the student. Yeah. >> Yes. >> Um I mean, I was instead of saying one per category like in because really the
dropout period is between now and the ETH. I mean, if you don't So, if you drop out >> if you don't show up on the ETH, it wouldn't be filled. So, I mean, could we just select like >> two or two alternates rather than one in each category? like it. >> I I'd like to make an amendment to my
motion um that we select two candidates um as backup in case anyone from any category um drops out prior to the starting of the interview process. >> Second on the amendment.
Seconded by Miss Tensley Williams. Discussion on the amendment, Mr. Willingham. >> Two alternates. >> Two. Yes. two alternates. Yeah, that's >> that's the word that I wanted in there. Yeah. >> Oh, yes. >> The amend is that an amendment to the amendment?
>> No, because that's what she said. >> Okay. Clarifying. Great. >> I'd like to clarify my amendment that we select two alternatives. >> Thank you. Alternates. Got it. Any discussion? Mr. F. Okay.
>> On the amendment. On the amendment. All those in favor? I. Any opposed? All right. Motion passes unanimously on the motion. >> Discussion on the motion? Nope. All
right. All those in favor? I. Any oppose? Motion passes unanimously. We're on the selection of two alternates. Miss Wilson. >> I would like to nominate Anthony Stooloto. Mr. Will.
No, no, don't. I thought you had a question. Go ahead, Mr. Wellin. >> Thank you. >> Make a motion to nominate Anthony Solato, >> 33 Ramon Avenue.
>> No, it isto. >> I second that. Motion made by Mr. Willian, seconded by Miss Wilson. Discussion. Seeing none, all those in favor, raise your hands. Motion passes unanimously.
On to the second turn. >> It's my It's my turn. Yes, >> it is my turn. I'm going to turn it over to Miss Lefay. >> Why? Why? because you because I I if you do not wish it, I I will. But I feel as
though you have looked at this deeper um as far as geographical than I have. I'm going to be very honest and and I feel as though you probably would make a better recommendation based on that than I would. >> I'm You can deny it.
>> Orlando, >> Mr. has his hand up. You can >> go for it. All right, I'll give it to Mr. Mr. Zaza. >> Nominate Maria Chambers. >> Chambers. >> Maria Chambers. >> Where's Maria?
>> Do we have a second? >> Seconded by Miss Da Williams. Discussion. >> Seeing none. All those in favor? Hold on. Let me look. >> Maria Chambers in favor. >> Yes. Oh, see.
>> All right. So, I have one, two, three. Okay. >> Okay. Okay. Hold on. I'll wait a second. Hold on. You can lower your hands
>> cuz I want to make sure that I get the count correct. >> Okay. All those in favor, raise your hands. Okay. I see seven. Any opposed? One zero abstensions. >> Okay.
>> Motion passes. 710. >> Okay. >> Like to make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> I thought we were >> Hold on. >> We didn't have a second, so motion fails. >> Oh, >> Mr. Sheen.
>> Yes. >> Just for the Just so people here on the committee are aware and so people with the screening committee are aware. So the screen screening committee has their dates. So the goal of the screening committee is
that they will finish up their work on January 22nd and they will come up with three to five candidates to be presented to the school committee which will be presented to the school committee on January 26th at our regularly scheduled meeting.
The presentation is just them reading the names off. Then between January 26th through February 6th, school committee members have to go in teams and do site visits at all of the
um locations of the uh finalists. So >> 26 to what? from the 26th to February February 6th. It's a two-eek period where teams of school committee members two or three per group will visit the
districts of the people who are applying for the job to meet with students, administrators, co-worker, all the different types of groups of people. Those are a dayong visit typically usually a 5 to six hour visit in the in the home district of the um applicant.
were picked >> what the five the three to five people that were picked. Then starting on February 9th, the school committee will meet every day, every night from February 9th
through February 13th. February 9th through February 13th. And those are finalist interviews assuming we have five people. We have three people. It's different dates, but it's the would be dates within that week. And those people then spend one
day in the district meeting with people, having forums, and then culminating with an interview in the evening by the school committee. And then the school committee would vote towards the end of that week on the potential and then it's school
vacation week. And snow will obviously change stuff. Miss Lefave. >> Okay. So, with these site visits, now let's let's really look at these site visits. So, say we have five candidates, right?
>> Now, explain to me, do we all go to the same? So like even if we're broke even if we're broken into teams of two or three >> does that team of two or three you're going to break off like who's going to which no
>> which district or each team of two or three has to go and visit the same five is my question. >> Let's say Dr. Rivera Cologne was a finalist to be superintendent. >> The three of us would go to her
district. Okay, meet with staff. If Mr. Zaza was a finalist for superintendent, Mrs. Williams, um, Mrs. Wilson. So, it's >> correct. >> There could be duplicates. >> Oh, >> with five. I mean, mathwise, I mean,
there's >> there could be but but it's two to three for each one and they meet with the same people in the district. >> And can I ask the question when Mr. Saza, >> you be so kind and send us all this information in writing.
>> You'll get it all on the 26th. >> Yes. >> Mr. R Martinez. >> Thanks. >> Does that when you go into community, does it allow like uh to visit that you have the experience doing it? Have you ever had a chance to speak to really parents from the community or it's just
administration and staff? >> It's whatever we ask for. And you and I did it together the last time. I mean, you've done it. >> Yeah. I mean, it's whatever we ask for, >> but I I never visited. >> If we ask for I mean, if the school committee says we want to meet with three parents, then it's on the obligation of the candidate to find three parents to meet with.
>> Can I just have a point of order? The agenda for this evening was just for selecting the candidates. That is all the agenda had on it. So, I'm I'm just going to say that we are not following our agenda. Y >> because it was it was just the selection
of candidates. That's the only item that was on the agenda this evening. Mr. Fab. >> So then why don't we take a final vote and we specifically say because there was a lot
of back and forth so that we take a full v final vote but thank you to Mr. sheen because now I need to figure out my work schedule right with all them dates. So knowing this ahead of time than me being
bombarded with this information on January 26th because that's that's a lot. But I have a whole month to work it out. Do I read it out as to how we So we have our selection
so that the school committee vote to appoint the following. >> These are the the confirmed appointments that we're making. I I haven't I'm not including the alternates in this one. The alternates will be and with the and okay.
>> So under parent guardian Den Denise Rodriguez, right? because I just put so Oh, Deborah Rodriguez. I'm sorry. Deborah Rodriguez, K. Lopez. That's how I wrote them. Kayla,
>> Carlen, >> Carlen. Okay. Then for community member Christian Cardi, Lisa Smith Okconor, Kate Sullivan, under educator Nelson Muriel.
>> No, Nester. Sorry, I'm not looking at the front part. >> And is Satie Childs >> Cora >> Kora Satie? Wait, where did I get >> child?
>> Satie Charles Kora. Sorry. Then under administration, we have Yalis Sto and Ryan Kerry. for elected official Patty Lubald. Uh other
Joan Matsalia students Addison Rodriguez and Eddie Belto I don't have a last name >> and then as our two alternate candidates
Anthony >> Yeah. >> Soto and Maria Chambers. Do we have a second? >> Second that. >> Seconded by Mr. Isasa. All those in favor? I >> I. Any opposed?
So move. Motion passes unanimously. Miss Wilson. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Second by Mr. Sasa. All those in favor? I. Thank you everybody. This meeting is adjourned at 5:41.
>> Oh 51. >> That's not bad. Say that again. >> Where they going?