Good evening everyone and welcome. I'd like to call the city of Homestead City Council meeting to order. Today is Wednesday, April 22nd, 2026 and it is now 6:01 p.m. This evening we'll have the
invocation by Reverend Michael Styles. Is uh Reverend Styles here? Is he here? >> Don't see him yet. Councilman Fletcher, would you mind? So, the invocation by Councilman Fletcher, followed by the uh pledge of allegiance
with Councilman Fletcher and the Homestead Police Explorers. You please rise. Heavenly Father, we come to you with grateful hearts today and we thank you for your mercy and your grace. We ask you today for your wisdom to guide us to
make the right decisions for our community. And we ask that you bless all of those who are in this chamber this evening and that you watch over the city employees, our first responders,
our folks protecting our country around the world. And we ask these in your gracious name. Amen. >> Amen. >> Please join me on the pledge. left right Please join me
>> all. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
the face forward. The the right Thank you. Please be seated. Okay, at this time we will now uh open the floor for public comments as to any issue. Um, please be advised
that uh now is the time to speak on any agenda issue with the exception of at the time any quadial quasi judicial item or land use item is called up, you will have the opportunity
to uh to speak at that time. So yes, getting ahead of myself on the agenda. Thank you, Councilman. Roll call, Madam Clerk. >> Councilman Cannibal. >> Yes. Councilwoman Abula >> here. >> Counciloman Roth >> here. >> Councilman Fletcher >> here. >> Councilwoman Ksky >> here.
>> Vice Mayor Bailey here. >> Mayor Losman >> here. >> Now, as I was saying, public comments. Is there anyone wishing to make a comment as to any issue, any agenda item with the exception of a land use quasi
or quasi judicial item. Please come forward. Give us your name and address for the record. And please limit your comments to three minutes. Now note for the record that no one has appeared to sign to have pre-registered.
So we'll call calling from the floor now. Hi, good evening. Welcome. >> Hi, my name is Ariel. Good evening everything. This is Claudia is my translation for today for tonight. >> Good evening. My name is Claudia
Gonzalez and I tried to interpret it to earlier. Uh good evening everyone. Um I came two months ago and I asked him about prop uh proposed um ordinance
and I think um Miss uh Erica present about it and she want to know about what's uh is the followup for that. >> What what was the subject matter of the ordinance? Uh it is a safety drive.
I try to remind everything. Um I want to know it is important the life of the uh community and that's what um she want to uh she want to know about the the resource if it I she know that someone
she bring information to somebody else and she want to know what is uh the reser does her opinion >> council phone. >> Thank you, Mayor. >> I was just going to see if the reminder was I think it was about cell phone
usage, texting while driving and those things, right? >> Yes. She says about the driving and texting and it's about different accidents is in the community about that and that is the um
>> so I'm not sure what what what they want. >> I I can speak to this. Yes. So I thank you. Thank you for asking about it. It has not formally come to the council yet for review. What I can say is that back
in February, I did request for our city manager to work with our police department and with legal to investigate different um uh possibilities on how we can reinforce safer driving um code and
language to give more power to our police department to um site people for distracted driving and to um just be stricter on cell phone usage to save to reduce traffic and accidents. Um I know that our attorney apped on it like next
day. So did Chief Knap and that information um I believe is still in the works with our city manager's office. I have not received a response, but do you have maybe you have an update? >> No, I think at the at the set council
meeting the city attorney that this is subject to Florida statute 316 which preempts local government. Uh Mr. Satony, correct me if I understand it. I understood you correctly. >> No, there are two statutes that cover texting while driving and it is covered
in chapter 316. Um we're pre the cities are preempted from local regulation, but there are traffic site uniform traffic citations that can be issued under 316 under existing law without the city doing anything. There's it's just a question of you know enforcement. It's
not a question of uh having enabling legislation in order to prevent it. >> If I may, the this is something that I would like for the city manager's office to look into. The the request at the time was for a
briefing to be put together for for us to discuss further. We haven't had that briefing yet with the results of what the the council and the uh police department's um advice and recommendations and and um and research
provided so that we can then come back with a potential uh ordinance for consideration. But um thank you for for reminding us of the urgency of the matter that there was direction that went out right after that meeting. It might have been the next day or the day
after. And I know that we did have um some information and research conducted. So I will continue to make it a priority and and they're hearing it now as well. So thank you. >> Thank you very much. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Right,
>> Mr. Mayor. >> Yes. Also, just for information, Pastor Styles has arrived. If you'd like him to rebess us. Good evening, Mayor and Council, and all of our distinguished public servants in your capacities. Our names, Shandra
Mallerie, Janette Mallalerie, 45 year residents here in the city of Homestead, and I just come before you tonight to humbly ask that we consider >> Yes, sir. Sorry. I humbly come before you tonight to ask
that we consider two things. One, the flow of traffic in the southwest section. It is becoming an ultimate nightmare to cross Flaggler Street during the operating hours of, let's say, 10 to 12 on the weekends, which becomes an inconvenience for families
that are, you know, trying to move around the city. And the code enforcement, um, we are homeowners. We have been homeowners for almost 50 years now. And I think there seems to be some sort of confusion as it pertains to the
homeowners association type of restrictions versus homeowners, single family homeowners. So we just humbly ask that we consider those of us that have been in the committ community for many years and that have tithes in our properties and have worked hard to
accumulate the things that we do possess at our properties. So, um I don't know if this is the meeting to discuss it, but at some level, can we consider those of us that have been here for longtime residents and we do accumulate things at
our properties that we like to keep and we don't like to be told what to do with it because we work hard to earn these things. So, I just ask that the council keep us in mind as we move forward with the things that we propose and impose on those of us taxpaying citizens that have
been here for almost 50 years now. Thank you. >> Thank you. Always good to see you here. >> Likewise. >> Anyone else? Last call for public comments. >> Good evening. Brandy Ramirez, 2231 Southeast First Street. Um, I just
wanted to piggyback in regards to I think there's an item that you'll be discussing today in regards to boats in in the yard or association. Um, and just like she mentioned, a lot of people work hard for items that they have. So, just take us into consideration making those
type of decisions. But I also just wanted to come and share. Um, I do notice uh some community uh residents mentioning code enforcement going into gated communities and that they're having some issues or concerns um about that. But I wanted to share that as a
resident that lives in a gated community, I had a very positive um interaction uh with code enforcement and a positive interaction with the permitting department, the building department. So, I wanted to thank um code enforcement, the director and the
manager for taking the time uh to explain me the proper, you know, procedures and and the process to go through it to make sure we correct um some permitting um concerns and then the building um uh department and the
permitting uh Nora has been great. Um I'm looking forward to working with the other building people to to complete. I've already completed one and in the process of finishing the other one. So, I think we should as residents, it's not always negative or complaints, but to
also praise the different departments when they're doing their best to assist us as residents. So, just wanted to share that and I look forward to seeing the different things that you guys continue to do in the city. Thank you. >> Again, last call for public comments.
We'll get you to the microphone one way or the other tonight. Pastor Styles, >> good evening. Uh I do apologize for my tardiness. Um however, uh two one concern, two concerns. Um the light that is at US1 and I want to say where
I guess that's Domino's or the peace places. It needs a turning signal. That is one reason why I'm late. I sat to that like 25 minutes, but people can't get to make a left-hand turn to get onto US1 or come straight to come into city
hall. It's very confusing. Um especially when you got to zoom around and then you're scared that whoever's going to turn left going back north of ESUS1 or who's going to turn south to go back south towards Florida City, it's going to be accidents there if there has not
been many accidents there. And every time, no matter how early I leave from the east side, it still takes 25 minutes to get through just that one light. Second, uh the road that is being torn
up, I think I've said this a number of times, uh right in front of the hospital. Uh I have personally had to have my vehicle realigned four times because of the water line that they've dug up to be able to tap into the big
development that's right there in front of Publix. It is a safety hazard. It is a great safety hazard. I do want to say thanks to the city for correcting the deep potholes that have been had two flat
tires by a racetrack. So, it is an ongoing um an ongoing building project, but it is a nuisance to road hazards as well. So, those are only two things and I do apologize about my targets.
>> Thank you, pastor. >> Okay, we have one online. Okay, let's hear who's on the line. I bet I know. >> Uh Anivo Garcia. Oh, >> okay. No, please go ahead.
>> If you're on the line, go ahead if you can hear us. >> There you go. >> There we go. Can you hear me? >> We can. Yes. Thank you. >> Okay. My my name is Aniva Garcia and I am here today on behalf of the Florida Department of Health in Miami Dade
County tobacco prevention and control program in support of the smoke-free parks ordinance before you today. Uh this ordinance is important because it protects our youth and preserves the environment within the city of Homestead's park system. And we know
that youth vaping continues to rise and many young people mistakenly believe that vaping is safe when in reality these products contain nicotine which can harm brain development and lead to lifelong addiction which we all know. When smoking or vaping is uh visible in
parks, spaces designed for families and recreation, it normalizes that behavior. And passing this ordinance helps shift that norm and sends a clear message that our parks are places for health, not harm. Uh there is also a growing
environmental concern. Disposable vapes are made of plastic and contain lithium ion batteries which when left behind they become hazardous waste leaking chemicals into our soil and waterways and posting potential uh fire risk fire
risk uh especially in our South Florida climate. So this is in addition to cigarette litter which already impacts the cleanliness and safety of our parks as well. Uh this ordinance is not about punishment. It is about prevention. And with proper signage and community
education, smoke-free park policies are highly effective and voluntary compliance. They reduce exposure, decrease litter, and they create a safer, cleaner environments for everyone, including our youth. By passing this ordinance, the city of Homestead is taking a proactive step to
protect its youth, support public health, and safeguard its natural spaces. I respectfully urge you to support this ordinance. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you for calling in. We appreciate your input. Very, very important and uh informative. So, thank
you again. Is there anyone else online? >> Okay. All right. Um we have a lot of lengthy presentations tonight and a very long agenda. So, if I could have the opportunity, I have a couple of
appointments I'd like to make. I think one of them, one of the potential appointees are here. I think Councilman Davis, former Councilman Davis is under the weather, is not able to join us. But if I could go ahead and uh get your
voice boat vote confirming uh the appointment of Natasha Alivera and Tom Davis to fill the two vacancies by virtue of term expiration to the Homestead Housing Authority. There any objections?
All in favor? >> I. Thank you all. All right. We are very fortunate this evening to have uh us company in our people's house. I like to call her our third commissioner. I don't think she likes me
to say that publicly, but but I have to. But our very own Miami Dade County Commissioner, District 7, Raquel Regalado. Welcome and thank you. Thank you. Well, there are three commissioners that represent South Date and I am one of
them. So, there you have it. Right. Um, first and foremost, it's always such a pleasure to be here with you all in Homestead. You're doing such amazing work. As many of you know, uh, I am the county commissioner of District 7. I was a school board member before, but here I'm really in here in my capacity as the
proud mother of two neurode divergent adults. I want to thank all of you for raising the flag. It was such a beautiful event to have our families come out. Um, and this year my roll out has been a little bit different. Um, what I did was capture the body of work.
Um, I've done a lot of things in Miami date county as pilots trying to prove a concept and that's what I want to share with with all of you and with all of Florida for that matter. So, uh, what I launched, uh, on April 2nd is the Florida Neuroincclusion Toolkit. So,
it's actually a collection of all the legislation, the data, and everything that we've been doing over the last 10 years. Um, just generally to explain why neurodeiversity and not autism. Um, neurodeiversity just includes a lot more
humans. My both of my children are in the autism spectrum, but a lot of autistic individuals are diagnosed with another um another uh neurode divergent symptom. And in the case of my daughter when she was an adolescent, even though
she had been diagnosed um in the spectrum, she was also diagnosed with ADHD. So she has ADHD. And there are a lot of autistic children and adults that are autistic with dyslexia, autistic with epilepsy. It's actually very common for neurodeiversity to ride together is
what we call it. So when we talk about autism, right now we're at one in 31 um in terms of the diagnosis, but when we talk about neurodeiversity, we're actually one in five because there's that many people. Uh and I say it
because um neurodeiversity includes dyslexia, epilepsy, ADHD, autism, Tourette's. It also includes at the very top people who suffer from traumatic brain injury and become neurodeiverse as a result of that. And then on the other
side of the spectrum we have neurological decline. So the first ones that I mentioned were neurological delay. So they get better with time. But then we have neurological decline which is dementia and Alzheimer's. And a lot of the work that we do for autism
actually fits everybody in the entire spectrum. So I think that once you put it in that perspective, you start seeing that these are not outliers and it's not just about April and October. Uh but it's really about providing an entry point u for individuals when we talk
about government. So, um, I used to be at the school board and I love talking about ed, but when I got to the county, I did, um, some research with Urban Impact Lab. Uh, specifically, we were dealing with employment for people with disabilities. And what we found is that
the biggest obstacles were not at the employment side or not at the education side. It was the transportation. It was access to an ID. It was being arrested or bakered. These are all government functions that we actually have the
domain over. So people could do as much as they want on the ed side and on the employment side, but if we don't push through those barriers, then they never even get to that opportunity. So that's what the toolkit does. Uh the idea is uh for people to replicate it. It has all
of the data, you know, what we've tracked, what we've done. As many of you know, my first item at the at Miami date county was um training for all of our departments. In the toolkit, it says that we've trained uh 2,120 uh first responders. Um, that's because
that was the last report and I wanted to mention the report, but as of today, we've trained 4,125 first responders in Miami date county in person, actually meeting autistic adults and hearing from those autistic adults,
what that interaction felt like. So, not a video, not a tutorial, but actually meeting them and speaking with them and understanding from them and from their caregivers what that interaction looks like. And that has reduced the baker, that has reduced unnecessary arrest, and
it has really changed the dynamic of our um police and fire as they enter uh into people's homes. The sheriff has been very supportive. Um when the when the police was under the county, I launched uh the decal, which is the occupant with
autism decal that's available to everyone all over the county. um and it goes into your 911 system just like our 911 system and that allows you to register and to put the actual information of deescalation for that person. So for example, my daughter
Isabella is very different from my son Sebastian. When I registered both of them, I put Bella her deescalation, Sebastian his deescalation, right? They're two very different people and how you would approach them at a point of crisis is very different. Um the
sheriff uh this April added to the home registration um a vehicle registration. So now you can register your vehicle and you can say there might be a neurode divergent person in this vehicle so that when the police officer or fire pulls up your tag now they're on alert and they can see
that same information. So it's so important to do training. Um at the county we've trained everyone in our parks department, everyone in our libraries. All 50 of our libraries not only have training, they have social stories, they have sensory kits, they have sensory activities, the larger ones
have sensory rooms. And we've really opened up those public spaces um for our residents and it's wonderful to see them finally coming into those spaces because most of our families just stay home and that's why you don't hear from them. But not all of it costs a lot of money. We
actually did the training with NSU card which is a resource to everyone. They do it for the cost. they're not making money from from the endeavor and they're a state resource. Um there's seven cards in the state and everyone can um can contact their cards. But a lot of the information that I have in here is
simple things. So for the youth fair for example, they worked the first year with NSU card and they started a sensory room and we did a social story. The second year I worked with them and we did a sensory map where you can show um sensory areas and how you could walk the
fair a little bit different. And then this year we did sensory hours. So we had sensory hours every Saturday and Sunday from 12:00 to 3. And that was simply turning off the music and turning off the lights. And I will tell you even the neurotypical people loved it. Everyone really liked it at a lower
pace. And that as I mentioned is really important for all neurodeiverse people. So back to um Alzheimer's and dementia, most people think that the first sign of that is actually is forgetfulness. That is not the case. The first sign of neurological decline is sensory
overload. 89% of people who have dementia and Alzheimer's, that is the first sign. They have issues with lights and sounds and textures in the same way that autistic people do and other neurodeiverse people do. So, um, at our airport, we actually and at all of our
transit stations, we have the sunflower lanyard. Um, so you can get it from me, you can get it from the airport, you can sign up and get it yourself. Uh but this is a lanyard that we use nationally uh to denote invisible disabilities and this you know it comes with a training
and that way everyone knows that that person may need some extra help. The same thing um with the work that we're doing with the decal uh and the sheriff. I'm actually having an event uh at Betham this Saturday where the sheriff is going to be there and the tax collector and we're going to be doing
the registrations there for everyone. The tax collector partnered with us through this last year and we established neuroincclusion days. So in the state of Florida, you can have um a state ID starting at 5 years old. Two years ago, they changed the law that
allows you to place your disability voluntarily on your state ID. That means that if you have a six-year-old, an eight-year-old, an 18-year-old, a 22 year old that's in the spectrum, they can have a Florida issued ID that has their picture and has their disability
and will serve as evidence of that disability. We have a lot of parents walking around with a diagnosis from 2003 and a birth certificate because since their child doesn't drive, they haven't gotten a license. But without an ID, they are at risk. without an ID,
they can't volunteer, they can't work, and they can't even prove their identity. So, we're really pushing the IDs, getting parents to understand that whether they want to put the disability on there or not, this is a tool that they need specifically to travel. At MIA, we have an amazing program that's
available to all Miami Day County residents. It's called MIA Air. It's a dress rehearsal where we take the kids uh through the entire experience with their caregivers. So, they get to the airport, they get their boarding pass, they go through TSA, we sign them up for CSA Cares, they board the plane, they
meet the pilot, and then we go buy them Chick-fil-A. Who doesn't like Chick-fil-A? Uh, and we show them the sensory rooms, but it allows them to walk through the experience so that when they go for real on a trip, they don't have a meltdown because they've never been there. It comes with a social story
in English and in Spanish and we're with them the entire time and we take their teachers with them in order to make the experience a pleasant one. So those are some of the things uh that we've been doing uh in Miami Day that's in the toolkit. Um the other thing that's in the toolkit is the use of April and
October as really goal setting moments and looking at what we're doing in our communities. So, we have April, which is obviously um autism acceptance, and we talk about what we've done. But October is disability employment, and we really focus on opening opportunities there at
the county, what I've asked the county to do is to um change the way that they hire. So instead of putting on LinkedIn that you want someone um that has good communication skills, an autistic person will never apply for that. Um to allow
people to come in and rather than focusing on eye contact and them talking to you, to actually let them do the work. Let them do the work, especially if it's in the area of tech, and let the work speak for itself and not hold them to a very neurotypical standard of
hiring so that they can have an opportunity. I've also opened up our internships so that we have to you know interview neurode diverent people and give them those opportunities. And finally um also in the toolkit is our zero drowning initiative which is a countywide initiative that I know you
guys know about. Um I changed it to include uh neurodeiverse individuals specifically autistic children and adults because irrespective of age the number one cause of death for autistic people is drowning irrespective of age. Um, and that is because water is a form
of sensory relief. They seek water, they run to water, and if they do not know how to swim, many of them drown. So, it's been um a priority for me and for the children's trucks to provide folks with as much information about the need
to teach um individuals in the spectrum how to swim um and how long-term it really is a wonderful uh commitment and endeavor. Um, so with that, I'm here to answer any and all questions that you may have. There's a lot more in the toolkit. It was emailed to you. Um, and
also I have the QR codes here so that you can check it out. It has um, the legislation, social stories, how to do all these things, how to do sensory events, and I'm happy to help um, you navigate all of that because the last thing I want you to do is use your
resources of getting a consultant. Just give me a call and we could do it together. you've been such wonderful partners and there's such a need in the south to talk more specifically about neurodeiversity. Thank you so much commissioner for being here tonight and for sharing this very
valuable information and I do hope that we can be advocates to continue the messaging and to incorporate a lot of the tools that you're mentioning into our process um improvement plans for the future. I do have a question regarding the uh police department's access for the vehicle registration at the county
level. Is that automatically generating for our officers? >> Yes. >> Perfect. Yes. >> And then with regards to the trainings that you mentioned, has that already been done? Do we know for for our police department? >> So, we trained our Miami day county police officers, >> right?
>> So, I don't know what what you guys are doing and if you've reached out, >> maybe speak to that. Chief, can you speak to that? Yes, we do training yearly and as a matter of fact, as a result of some grant money that we found, we're going to have some autism training coming up, but we do do it every year.
>> Thank you for that. I I would love the opportunity for perhaps comparing the training that we've been doing and what we're going to be doing compared to what the county is doing so that we at least are making sure that we're touching all bases and and well-rounded training. >> So, autism training is a state requirement, but it's an unfunded
mandate, you know, as as the chief all knows. about. Yes, we you all know about those. Um, so there is a lot out there in terms of um virtual training. Uh, but I'm happy to work with you all and and get card out here. We have some great
individuals. One in particular named Kent. He actually lives in Gasapia now. Um, and he comes and talks to the officers about his particular experience. And I will say talking to autistic adults that have been detained, it is really a gamecher. when we talk
about deescalation, >> right? And I have not heard that we're doing that kind of one-on-one face-to-face type of engagement. So, I I would love to see that get incorporated with our police department. Um, with regards to inclusivity and inclusion efforts, um, I know that we have at
least one page within our parks master plan that speaks to this and I would invite you to maybe review that and offer us your insight and ways that we can maybe improve it and and and expand on that. And I know the parks our parks department, our parks director have done a great job in trying to make sure that
as we roll in new playgrounds that we're making this a priority, but the plan itself I think could be beefier and I I would love your um input and guidance on that if that's okay. >> Happy happy to do that and happy to work with your parks department. You know, one of the things that's in the toolkit is how to do social stories for all of
your parks. Um so parks usually um have ADA compliance full stop. Um what we've done and we've done it in small parks and and larger parks too at the county is um the placement of things is kind of
beyond ADA compliant. So certain swings right the height of different things like what we're choosing. Um I don't think there's like an autism playground but you can make it autism friendly right by your selection of certain things. And then the social stories are
very easy. you just take pictures of the park and you put it in a PDF and you put it on the website. That's what we've done um at our uh on our parks and then that allows caregivers to see what's there and to show it to them. That way they'll want to go to the park.
>> Right. Thank you. Because if they can visualize it ahead of time, the sensory overload at the time is less >> Exactly. It reduces the anxiety. >> Right. And I certainly can appreciate your sunflower um branding on I don't know who came up with that idea, but many here know that I love sunflowers
and being in a city where we used to have fields and fields of sunflowers iconic for us and now that's sadly gone away. Uh maybe this is a good time to announce I'm working on a resolution to bring for council consideration making us the sunflower city and potentially rolling that into some of our
landscaping initiatives. But I love the the uh parallel messaging that we are, you know, we see our autistic families and that we are being as inclusive as we can with respect to making our playgrounds, our police departments, our
process improvements, IDs, jobs, etc. a focus priority for for those families. And I think you'll be happy to hear that we did uh roll out a zero drownings initiative program. Yes. with the Children's Trust, which it's not just learning how to swim, but surviving in those environments at a very young age.
So, we hope that that mitigates a lot of those um unfortunate deaths. But again, thank you. >> Thank you. >> Hey, Vice Mayor. >> Thank you, Mayor. Definitely. Thank you very much. And you didn't mention um Councilwoman Navila sponsored a portion
of ArtWalk this year to have things that were um you know sensory specific for for some of our guests that had special needs. So headphones and just different um sensory type uh toys. So we are working on it. One thing that came to
mind as you were talking um an idea for the parks. I know that a lot of our special needs um kids and even adults going to parks have headphones. Maybe there's an there's something to do with a QR code that would have some type of um anxiety reducing sounds or something
that they might be able to I don't know learn about the park and drown out noises around them. >> So, so we have sensory kits and we have them at libraries and at parks. Um and then also museums that have autism friendly designation have them. Um we
also have uh we have um earbuds because depending on the age some of them may not want the headphones. So it's like some very little ones and some very older ones don't want it. So we try to give them those those options. And then in the social stories we also to your
point um vice mayor we call out if there's noise. So for example have a beautiful park named Ronan. There's tennis there. So, we're like, "And by the way, these are the tennis courts next to the park, right?" So, we we you know, we give them that information. We
have another uh beautiful park in my district that's next to the library. It's a very small park, but we went out of the way um to make it an ADA park um that's right next to the library because of its location. It didn't have like a lot of noise and a lot of movement. So we're focusing on the more passive ones
and kind of leading with those and letting parents know that there may be activity in these other in these other parks because sometimes things are just colllocated >> and and there's not much choice. No, I really appreciate all the uh all the headway that you're making. Keep us
continuously in the loop so that we can keep working for our um our residents as well. uh one of my favorite preschool students who's now 15 was non-verbal for many years and he's coming tomorrow to read to the kids which is his like new favorite thing is to read to children.
Amazing, amazing, amazing. And I and I know you appreciate this, you know, vice mayor because we've talked about it. You know, one of the things that I have and and I mentioned it in the toolkit and that's more of an October thing than an April thing is the need to have adult programming. As many of you know, the
world ends at 22 and I've really focused on getting people to understand why we need adult programming and how you can colllocate adult programming with individuals that have memory issues. The two communities go very well together.
Autistic adults and individuals older individuals that have dementia and Alzheimer's, a lot of the therapies are identical and they usually get along very well. So, a as you look at finding those places, I just want you to
consider that our health system was built for elderly people. And what happens after 22 is if you're lucky to have medwaver, someone goes home with you. So we literally graduate our children to the couch. And when we talk
about that, everyone's like, "Oh, that's great. You get to watch YouTube. You get to go home." That's fine if you're an elderly person and you're you're the the rest of your life is 7 8 10 11 years. Not when we're sending you home for 50,
65 years. That's what we're doing. Um, and I know that's a little jarring to people when I say it, but it's important because once once we let them go home, it's very hard to get them to go to a program. And that's why I think as a community, we have to start having more
events and we have to start talking about adult programming and the benefit of adult programming. I have two children that are very different. One needs less resources um, and was able to attend a program that I helped create at Miami Dade Community College. My
daughter needs a lot more resources and a lot more care. Um, he can work with supports. She cannot right now, but she makes jewelry and she gives it away, you know, to the people that go to her adult daycare and she'll tell you that that's her job and and she had she's in
vocational training and I think in five or six years she will be able to do some volunteer work. It's a developmental delay. She's 22. Um, but it's a developmental delay. I don't I I can't tell you that she'll never work because I don't think that that's the reality.
Much like your your visitor in the next two days, my daughter was non-verbal and I was told that she wouldn't even be able to feed herself and she graduated from a culinary program. So, so much can be done, you know, for these individuals. We just have to give them an opportunity. Um, they just think
differently and they experience the world differently. And that's why I really wanted to make it about neuroincclusion because we have to focus on their abilities. They want to work. They want to be part of our society. When my son was working, you know, we talk about the issues that we have with
employment and retention and how everybody read the 4-hour work week and it went to their head, a 4-day work week and it went to their head. Um, but my son was upset that there was no work on Labor Day. He wanted to work on Labor Day. He didn't understand why we would take a Monday off. Um, they're amazing
workers. They have a Puritan work ethic. They're so excited to be here and to be involved and to be part of community. Um, so if if I have one ask is that as a community we stop graduating them to the couch because they're amazing humans and
it's going to be a lot more complicated 10 15 years from now when we have this ever growing population um that is at home with a with a health care aid that really cannot provide for them. And we know that their mental health declines, that their health declines, and that it
just spirals into a lot of different issues uh for all of us. >> Again, thank you for coming down. And as promised, we've already added your flag to our display back here. >> Thank you. >> It's not not hot air. >> Yes.
>> Yeah. I want to say something. Of course. >> Yeah. I want to thank you for being here. Okay. And I want to congratulation in this toolkit. The neuro inclusion toolkit is amazing. I think it's a proactive tool. Okay. That can avoid a lot of things bad things happening to
these to these kids. So, thank you for that. Okay. >> Thank you. Thank you so much. >> Before you take off, we're going to deviate from the agenda just a little bit. >> Uh colleagues, we have in front of us a a resolution regarding
>> the conveyance of a county parcel to the city. It should be laying here somewhere. It's that uh Thank you. It's a property that the county has declared surplus that we have requested be and it's part of the county parks
department. It's vacant property surrounded by thousands of units. Um for frame of reference, Miss Ramirez, it's the 10 acres immediately south of of your neighborhood. Um, so this has been an initiative by
Councilman Cannibal working with our our city manager. So, Mr. Pearl, if if you would read that resolution by title >> have the paper copy in front of me. Nobody put it on my >> He needs a Josh has got it.
>> We're going to do this. She's here. should have. >> Uh, this is a resolution of the city council of the city of Homestead, Florida, requesting Miami Dade County to convey certain county-owned property identified by folio number 10-7917-001-0580 to the city of Homestead for public park
purposes, authorizing the city manager to accept the property on behalf of the city and take any action necessary to effectuate the transfer, providing for implementation, providing for transmitt, and providing for an effective date. >> Thank you, Mr. Manager, anything to add? >> Uh, nothing much other than that. Uh,
>> do you have this >> commissioner? Welcome. We've already met with county staff regarding this uh potential conveyance. County staff is very excit excited and they want to work with us. Hopefully by before you go on vacation in August, they promised us
that there's going to be traction on this. So, we're hoping to expedite the process. We this afternoon I believe we transmitted all the checklists that they had requested with additional uh materials. >> So we are soliciting for your cooperation, your support in making this
possible. Of >> course I'll talk to Christina about it. Happy to do it. >> Thank you. Appreciate that. Councilman Cannibal. It's in the heart of your your district. I know you've worked hard with other commissioners and our manager to get us to the point where we are now. So if I could have a motion to adopt this resolution. Yes.
>> I do have some questions. Uh if there's a motion you want to make it, I'll second it. But then I do have some questions. >> Moved by Cannibal, seconded by Avala. >> Thank you. I do have some questions on this. I would like for this to come back to us for final uh acceptance once we know that it's not mitigation land and that we can also make sure that it's
deed restricted in perpetuity for a park. So that's something that I want to make sure that if we're receiving it and that we're going to have it that it's going to be a park 100%. So that's my condition on the second. Thank you. >> And typically that's built into the conveyance. It's It's >> not It's not in this.
>> It's titled in the parks department now. >> Could be. I would hope so. Yes, >> I would. No. At the county. >> I would I would hope so. Yes, >> Mr. Mayor. >> Yes. >> I'm sorry. Just procedural very quickly. We didn't add this to the agenda at the beginning of the meeting. Can I have a
motion to add the to the agenda >> and then take a vote for adoption? >> I'll move to add to the So, it's moved by Canal, second by Avala to add this item to the agenda. >> All in favor? >> Mr. Ma'am, before you approve the amended agenda, I want to delete tab 29
car number 4973. Vice mayor's permission, we're withdrawing that item from the agenda. >> Oh, okay. All right. So, do we need two separate votes to add one and delete another? >> We can take them together as to accept the amended agenda. going to add the
request for the conveyance to the agenda and and defer or delete for tonight tab 29 with respect to that's the uh certificate of use item >> is that >> no >> it's a fee waiver >> that's a fee waver >> oh that's right
>> it was before the education committee came >> gotcha okay >> to be so moved >> very good so all in favor of that addition and the deletion I any opposed all right so Now, um, we're going to vote on the
resolution requesting the conveyance for park purposes. >> Can we restate the motion? >> Right now, the motion as made was just to adopt the resolution. If you'd like to make a motion to amend to stipulate that it needs to be come back to you for review, then we can do that. Or we can
you can amend the motion to provide that we'll accept it as long as it's deeded as um restrict it has includes a deed restriction for park for park purposes. So you can you can make a motion to amend >> and mitigation free
>> and that it it's not wetland if that's >> well that would be part of our due diligence before we accepted it. >> So >> but the resolution isn't specific to that. So the motion has to be specific to that in my in my opinion. But >> okay. >> So if you want to make the what I'm hearing is we'll accept it. >> You accept those amendments council and
cannibal. >> Yes. >> So contingent on it not being wetland property and that it is also comes with a deed restriction that is for park purposes. >> All right. So the maker of the motion has accepted that the request of the
person who seconded the motion. No, he accepted it. We're good. All right. So, let's have a roll call vote on this resolution. >> Councilman Cannibal. >> Councilwoman Abula? >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Ksky? >> Yes. >> Councilman Fletcher? >> Yes. >> Councilman Raw?
>> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Bailey? Yes. >> Mayor Losner? >> Yes. >> The motion carries. >> All right. Thank you. >> I will talk to the director first thing tomorrow. >> Thank you. It's always a pleasure. >> All right. So, let's get focused again. I think that takes us now to uh one hour
in to tab uh to tab two. This is a a presentation or is there a resolution that goes to the presentation? >> Mayor, if I may while we're taking a little break. While they're setting up a presentation, >> just for um city manager's office with
regards to my end of the year VIP Christmas party that I held, I would like to expand on that and perhaps um work in some additional programming throughout the year that we can um on the basis of what we heard today and the toolkit and whatnot. Let's see if we can
get that going sooner than later. >> Actually, I have some very very good suggestion for you. I mentioned at the beginning of the meeting that I have some good news. Uh let me let you take the thunder. Let me let brief you first then you can inform your colleagues. >> Thank you. I appreciate it because I'm
also working with um my VIP group to try to have soccer programming and that's you know been a little challenging. So um more to come. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Okay. Good afternoon mayor council. I will make this two and a half
minutes if possible at the direction of the manager. >> Um the this item is a discussion item and the intent is to provide a brief brief update to council on uh two primary initiatives that we have um
before us. Um, I will categorize it with the America 250 signage that we are uh looking to implement or install at the end of May and will have in place through the end of September. Um, and
then we'll talk a little bit about the street banner program that will also be installed uh at the end of May, but will have a much longer uh shelf life um because there are different sequences and or rather seasons and sequences of
the banner program. Uh last year, if you recall, council adopted a an America 250 logo in advance of the city um rolling out a year-long campaign for in celebration of the 250th
um anniversary of the US. We have um worked with a vendor to dis to develop design concepts for several um banners to be installed at city hall, the exterior of city hall, the interior of
the chambers and uh at the police station. And then we we have worked in conjunction with the CRA uh to develop conceptual designs for a street banner program to be implemented citywide. uh before you you have um a proof of
concept that we are proposing two banners um to be uh installed again at the end of May in advance of uh Memorial Day on the east and the west entrance of city hall. We are also
looking to do uh five banners that uh around the column of the exterior of the city hall building and um half flags uh towards the bottom portion of the what I
what I call the coliseum feature outside of the city hall building. The uh half flags are also going to be installed at the rear of city hall and um right outside of the balcony area.
Uh within chambers, uh we're taking the opportunity to enhance chambers a bit by introducing two banners um right behind the deis uh that you're sitting at this time uh with the newly adopted
uh city tagline of the future lives here. Um the intent is that this banner can be changed over time um at council's uh requests um to celebrate many different things including November's um
uh the national championship uh of coming back to uh Homestead. Right. So it is it is intended to be interchangeable. we would just need to replace the ribbon itself and install it with the hardware that would be uh made permanent.
While we are doing this work, we're also proposing um utilize or taking the opportunity to do a little bit of a reconfiguration on the behind the the deis. Uh we're looking to relocate the in God we trust signage. We're looking
to make it a little bit bigger as well. Um a a few months ago we adopted the circular logo as the official as the newly official logo of the city. So we are proposing to um install a circular
logo in lie of the arch logo that is currently there and the current arch logo that is currently installed uh behind the deis. We are going to look to council to give us some recommendations on what you'd
like to have installed in lie of the archway. Um there are some uh designs imperfection if we remove it. So we need to uh find a a method to replace that um replace that that
archway uh that we do not see the blemishes that's behind uh the the panel. So that is something that we can workshop with council individually but that is something that we need to work on. Uh before you you'll see the pro
proposed banners um installed on the exterior of the police uh building. This is the entrance and then we have two banners that faces uh Lzner Park and the Veterans Memorial. So that is the update on the America 250
banner installation. Now we are going to shift uh into the street banner locations. Uh so or rather the street banner program. So the intent here is that we will have um street
banners that are that is representative of the city what is happening in the city um the the entertainment offerings in the city um installed citywide. Um there are some that will be dis specific to
downtown Homestead and then there are other banner option or concepts that will um live throughout or or rather be installed throughout the city and specifically the major corridors. Uh we're looking to install these banners
on um the either decorative poles or uh the light poles that are owned by our HPS energy department. We have also um we've done a ride along. We've identified several corridors where
the county owns the street lights and we have already reached out to the county to understand their requirements should we want to attach uh to their polls. Uh the poles that we're proposing for the street banners or rather the banners for
the um polls are 48 by 30 and as you see before you there are different concepts that is being presented um what what we the style or the stylistic um approach
is the kind of the oneword um uh verb right the action and then having some sort of a visual aid that that is um descriptive of what is happening in the in the in the city or in the area.
Um as you'll see before you, you have the downtown Homestead um logo that is a that is a subbrand of the Discover Homestead brand. So we wanted to keep our branding consistent. Um, so that is
how you that is what you would see on all of the Downtown Homestead specific um banners. And then we also have uh several concepts um for you know again entertainment e uh eeries um exploring
downtown. Um also again the the intent is to encourage um folks to visit uh or or or dining options and um utilize the pedestrian opportunities
that we are presenting. You also have um again uh different different shots of what what visitors residents uh are able to um explore in the downtown area. We have some uh seminal theater shots. We've
included, you know, our our standing holiday uh treatments, whether it's the race to the fourth. Uh we have been intentional in incorporating several um agricultural pictures to make sure that
we we we ensure we uh remain or keep um the history of uh the city alive. We've also talked or incorporated several of the Everglades, um our the air base, the military
branches. We've incorporated the speedway as well as the rodeo. Um and then of course we are also looking ahead at you know the newly improved um
uh Chrome Avenue what the PH Sports Hub will look like. And really what I would like to uh point your attention to are these two options which is again the America 250 um banner and
the future lives here banner. uh this would be the first as a part of the first deployment. Right? So these two banners would be uh installed in concert with the other banners that you saw earlier. Um we have intentionally
switched the America 250 logo to the city um of Homestead logo that we are able to utilize these banners um in future years. Um, and I will from an investment perspective,
uh, the improvements to city hall or the banners to city hall, the PD building, and the interior of chambers, there's a fiscal impact of $39,000. uh on the street banner program, the first push. Uh we have uh several
funding sources, ARPA, the our our CMO communications budget as well as the CRA's uh budget for the banners for the downtown area. And with that, I think I went to three minutes,
so I apologize, sir. Uh with that, I am happy to take any questions and or feedback at this time. So just to be clear before you want us to focus primarily tonight on the interior and exterior of city hall police station
and >> street banners that are American >> the fourth of fourth of July >> fourth of July that is correct sir >> council counciloman Bailey >> I'll kick it off thank you um just a couple a couple um comments if you can
go back to the 250 50 related banners. My only comment with that is just trying to visualize it while you're driving down the street or passing by that we might want to take more better use of the size and make the
lettering and the logo larger. >> Okay. So, use maybe the similar font to the >> America. It could be a little smaller, but um take advantage and make it pop. As far as behind us, I think it looks very nice. I don't know what price tag
removing it and fixing what's behind us, but I don't necessarily think we need to switch the logos behind us. I love the idea of of all these banners and flags, but as far as what's behind us, I think it looks nice now.
>> Just throwing that out there. >> It does look nice, but personally, I've always thought it was too low. the former assistant city manager was left unsupervised and this was mounted at the wrong height. I whoever sits in this seat blocks that and we have all the
dead space >> above it. That was the thinking that it's really too low and not to scale for the wall. >> If that's the case, >> that that was the thinking. >> If that's the case, then great. Um and the only thing then which we're not
talking about yet but the the smaller the future lives here banners for me I think we have enough to talk about that is already happening you know in the visioning visioning sessions I think that's great but to advertise something that's not quite there yet
>> getting ahead of ourselves and like I said I think we have enough that we've already done okay >> advertise that's all I have thank you >> are you talking about these that have the tagline line or this stuff. Okay. >> Gotcha. I agree. >> Not now.
>> Agreed. >> Okay. >> All right, >> Mr. Mayor. >> Council Fletcher and then Councilwoman. And not to belabor the subject, I think all these are great. Some are a little too busy, but maybe we can tone them
down a little bit and make them pop like you said. Um, but I'd like to bring up again, I've been asking for this for quite some time on our city letterheads, you know, where we have our logo and then down the side most of the time we have the names of everyone. Uh, I'd like to do the the co-branding
with the championship race. Uh, soon we're going to be adding, you know, Miami FC to Homestead. Uh, and hopefully a championship there as well. So, uh, we talked about this quite some time ago, but we've never really implemented it yet. And I think we need to to really
market our facility that's leased by NASCAR, but we should be helping that when we're sending out our normal mail. >> Thank you. >> Well, even on email between now and the race, >> correct? >> And do we have their final logo that doesn't use the word homestead
>> uh for SPH? >> No. >> No. No. No. >> For the track for this championship race? >> We do. >> Yeah, we do. And we uh we uh well we are working with the track to do some elements of uh joint
banners uh as a they are they're working with us jointly on the banner program as well as the water tower. Um they have shared with us a design concept. So mayor and council will the administration is going to come back with all those concepts for your review
and approval before we adopt anything. I don't recommend we put stuff on our letterhead with that council's concurrence first. >> One final >> uh I know we reached out to uh you said the county owned street lights.
>> Yes sir. Can we reach out to Florida Power and Light because the main thoroughfare especially on the in the southeast district is Palm Drive and I know those are FPL street lights but I know there's liability that comes with that as well. So >> So last week I reached out to the
governmental affairs manager for FPL because of that as well as some other additional unrelated issues. He's currently out of the country until the 27th and he promised me that as soon as he comes back he's coming to Homestead to finalize on all pending issues.
>> Can you go back to the one with the tomatoes and the avocados? >> Okay. Yeah, you passed it. Okay. So, you know, to not, and again, not to belver the point, but to not have too many of the Happy Birthday America
banners downtown. Why not intersperse one of the tomatoes and one of the and I like the first avocado and the first tomato and see that would be my preference to alternate the happy birthday America >> future lives here
>> with with produce future lives here you know and they have three different kinds of banners so it's not so monolithic >> this in downtown Cro and and there are some that we hike that
we can go forward with later. But, you know, as we're going back into and really trying to showcase our agricultural roots, you know, for the first trunch of banners, if we could if we could do that. And I think Councilwoman has some comments.
>> Thank you. Uh, when is when do we think we're printing the banners? >> Yesterday. >> To be installed by Memorial Day weekend. >> To be installed by Memorial Day weekend. the location and all that. We're not going to have a second hack. >> Say that again. >> For the locations on the map and all
that, we won't have another hack at this, right? >> Well, certainly we will because I what I imagine to what I imagine will happen is for May, we may be certainly able to install on our pole street lights, right? Or or decorative lights.
>> And then maybe the county will will give us approval later thereafter. So there is I I anticipate there being a rolling um implementation that's possible. It depends on when the county or FPL um
gives us a a determination. >> So for example like Speedway Boulevard for race weekend leading up to the race and some of those major east west corridors where folks would come in from the west of the track to come in there.
We also touched on some of the Fourth of July banners in that corridor when folks are coming out there for our programming. >> Okay. So, a few a few things. The logo behind the chair for the same reason why we you know we want to raise the logo. I
don't think we should replace it with another tombstone style sign. Perhaps just something simple to hide the defect you're referring to. But if the goal is to be able to see the full logo during live play of the meetings, I can understand why you want to do that. I
prefer not to spend that kind of money if we don't have to. But I I I agree with the >> get it right the second time. >> Okay. The the banners on in the inside, I don't know if that's necessary. I think that it it's another distraction
in the room. It's more work. But I do I do like the the alternating of the signs. Um the 250 signage per se. It did it wasn't a wow factor for me. I'm not sure if there were other renderings to consider, but if it's if
it this is what we're going to work with in terms of in terms of the the basic style making the verbiage like >> mean the ones for outside, >> right? Um, let's see what it looks like. Thank you.
>> Well, what you don't really pick up here is kind of the watermark behind it and the fireworks. It may not be really visible here. I think maybe on a printout. >> Yeah. I mean, it's temporary. It's not permanent. It's just the this year and then it's off. Well, we're going to take
the 250 logo off of these and put our round logo on them so that they can be used year after year. >> So then the background, the blue and all that will stay the same >> because nobody's proposing that we spend this money for these large banners to use one time.
>> Got it. So >> we put the brown logo there. We can use them for several years. >> Okay. So >> and perhaps in different locations. >> Got it. So they'll have fireworks on it all year long. >> Not all year long. >> No, no, no. This is just for that period
this year, Memorial Day to Labor Day for the >> So you're saying you'll reuse the banner, but put a new print on the banner >> as you phase out the seasons. How are you going to reuse? >> You're going to take these banners down, store them, and put them back up next year. >> I understand what you're saying, right? But they're not going to be a permanently affixed all year round is
what I'm saying. No. >> Okay. With regards to the branding, I do believe that we have an opportunity like Councilman Fletcher said with highlighting home of the championship race, right? So, we can brand with that for this year on all of our templates.
And then next year, what are we home of? Home of the >> I don't know FC game, big game, whatever. And then the year after that or the season >> sunflower >> home of the sunflower festival coming 2027, you know, >> it's a stinking cover crop. they weren't
selling them. It was a cover. >> It's definitely something that it just it throws messaging. It throws a high, you know, highlights on what to look forward to and it's a buzz for whoever's receiving it and thank you very much. >> So, so great idea on that and I I do
support that. Uh, in general, the the signage and the locations, you know, we'll just keep working on it. >> All right. Thank you very much. >> All right. Thank you all. Is does that include comments from council? Councilman Roth, you're good. >> Okay.
>> All right. So, do you have what you need from us on this item at this point? >> We do. Thank you very much. >> I guess you don't want to jump into picking out floor coloring while we're decorating. No, >> at the direction of the manager. >> Let's Let's don't That's not the next item. I was kidding.
As long as we're picking out curtains, let's pick out carpet. We'll we'll we'll take a break on that. All right. Our next item is the approval of the consent agenda which is tabs 3A through
tab 11. >> It's been moved. Do we have a >> second with a comment, please? Thank you. >> A second with a comment. Go ahead. Comment. >> Thank you. I support the consent agenda. One point I want to make with regards to the PAL gym, not necessarily the
contract that we're approving under the item for the PAL. um as I I do support the extra programming and the the the the formatting on how the programs will be provided to the PAL kids and everything in general, but it um I did have a briefing with our city manager,
the police chief, and um in regards to the PAL program in general, and that's something that I would like for the rest of council to be aware of and to review hopefully soon. I did receive a memo with regards to um their internal auditing of the program and um I want to
continue to have the city and the staff to support the PAL program as is under the Homestead Police Department's perview and um I just want to to to give you all the opportunity to review that information as soon as possible and perhaps let's call a sunshine meeting to
discuss further and make sure that if that is the will of the council that the staff knows that and is able to um um encourage the the programming the the the structure of the
program as well as and the entity uh to be maintained as such. And I did request for budgeting u information precoid and I did not receive that yet. I've requested it a couple times. So I wanted
to know if that has been pulled from record. I I can't imagine that it's difficult for us to find what the budget was for a program that we have been funding for 2019. It's not like it's buried in the basement of the old city hall. >> Yeah, Councilman, I think the finance
director pulled up one of the years and is working with PD to get additional information for you. >> Great. Thank you. All right. I'll rest there, but that is my second. >> Okay. Thank you. All right. Any further comments on the approval of the consent agenda? All right. All in favor?
>> I. Any oppose? All right, Mr. White, have at it. >> Yes. Quai judicial items. Please be advised the following items on the agenda are quai judicial in nature. If you wish to comment upon any of these items, please indicate the item number you would like to address. When the
announcement regarding the quai judicial item is made, an opportunity for persons to speak on each item will be made available after the applicant and staff have made their presentations on each item. swearing in. All testimony, including public testimony and evidence, will be made under oath or affirmation.
Additionally, each person who gives testimony may may be subject to cross-examination. If you do not wish to either be cross-examined or sworn, your testimony will be given its due. The general public will not be permitted to cross-examine witnesses, but the public may request the council to ask questions
of staff or witnesses on their behalf. The full agenda packet on each item is hereby entered into the record. Persons representing organizations must present evidence of their authority to speak for the organization. Further details of the quai judicial procedures may be obtained from the
clerk and according to code section 2-590. Any lobbyists must register before addressing the council on any of the following items. At this time, council members must disclose any exparte communications concerning any items on the agenda. And I would just note that tab 12 and 13 are not quasi
judicial items. They're legislative matters. So we can take those up when we get to the legislative matter section. >> Okay. >> So quazi judicial items for consideration this evening would be second reading of tab 15, tab 16, tab
17, tab 18 and tab 19. >> Well, no 18, not 19. 15 through 18. >> I heard you say 19. It's 18, >> right? Right. But not part of the the same project. >> So, do we need to go to the
>> So, 19 is the separate item. Yeah. Right. >> So, do we need to go first to the second reading of the reszoning for this package? >> That would be correct. But first
>> disclosures >> 15 through 18 project the same. >> All right. So then at this time anyone in the audience wishing to speak this evening please stand raise your right hand to be sworn in by the clerk. >> You swear by do you hereby swear affirm
to tell the truth and nothing but the truth to help me God. You may be seated. >> So Mr. Mr. Mayor, we can move to the second reading uh the resoning tab 15. Um I can
introduce that as well as tab 16, 17, and 18. >> Right. Let's let's introduce the entire package and then we'll vote in the order that's necessary. >> Right. >> Individually. So tab 15, this is a second reading of an ordinance to the city of Homestead, Florida approving the reszoning as
requested by Vama LLC and Panko LLC of an approximately 62.35 acre parcel of land from agricultural AU zoning district to one family 1/2 acre AU zoning district for property generally located south of southwest 396 street
north of 302nd Street and west of Southwest 192nd Avenue as legally described in exhibit A and providing providing for conflict severability and providing for an effective date. Tab 16, car number 4974 is a res resolution of the city of
Homestead, Florida, granting site plan approval as requested by Bama and Penco LLC for the development of 119 single family dwelling units within a new residential subdivision on an approximately 62.35 acre parcel of land.
Tab 17 is car number 4975. It is a resolution of the city of Homestead, Florida granting tenants of plat approval as requested by Bama and Pinko LLC for the development of a 115 single family unit new residential
subdivision. And lastly, tab 18, car number 4976 is a resolution of the city of Homestead Florida granting a variance as requested by Obama and Penco LLC from the city code of ordinances section 30-981
regulations to permit a minimum building site or lot area of 15,780 ft where a minimum 1/2 acre 21,780 ft building site or lot is required for each single family dwelling unit. This
is for the development of 119 single family dwelling homes within a new residential subdivision. >> Thank you. Any issues with waving the staff report and we can come back to staff if necessary after the applicant's
presentation that okay Mr. >> Arsen Is this mic on? >> It's on. >> Yeah. Just needs to be brought up. Can you hear me? >> We can hear you. >> Thank you, sir.
>> Good evening. Hugo or 71 Burkel Avenue. um joined today by my partner Alex Aras as well as representatives from LAR homes. Um pleasure to be before you. I thank you all for your time. I had an opportunity to sit with all of you um
prior to first reading and again uh before this evening for second reading. Um so I know you're you're familiar with the site and the property. I want to thank staff for their work with us um in in getting this project to to the finish line uh we hope uh this evening. and um
see that we've already uh we're on the subject site. So again, um you know, just to orient us a little bit, uh the eastern portion of our properties, 192nd Avenue, uh 296th Street, Avocado is on the north side. Um and um basically a
budding to the north, um the under construction Aspen Estates project that you see on the on the screen there, uh under development and under construction and approved by this council. And I I will come back to that approval um in a few slides. Um because the the really
the the theme of the application when first presented to me to submit to the city for approval and in my discussions with I think all of you throughout time was that um having gone through that approval process recently the city um
had expressed you know support for what you now see there under development um an application that contained the exact same four requests before you this evening the site plan the tlat the resoning and the same variance for lot sizes. So,
um when when LAR came to me, I said, "Whatever we do, um let's make sure we can match um what this city and council have previously approved in the recent past." Um that approval happened, uh I think not quite 3 years ago, so in the recent past. And so, uh what we have
this evening is a project that, um is just a hair under the density that Aspen states had approved. and we used that kind of as a as a bit of a guiding principle. Um we felt that it was appropriate to try and uh take a nod to what this council had already previously
approved. Um it also factually and we'll see it meant that there were places where that project and the roads that exist because of that project we're going to come into our project. So really it it is a continuation of a of a theme even though it is two different developers but the state homes in in
this corner of the city which um does above your city boundary and um I'll show you in a minute that in fact a portion of this project once developed the one before you this evening a portion of it actually is outside of the city limits it's in the county that's already been through approvals for um
estates sized homes and so we have before you the 62.35 gross acres that you have um within your city boundaries. Um existing land use designation, state density. That is important. I noted it obviously first reading talked about um
the uh the the resoning and and so I made the point then and I'll make it again now. Um we are not seeking an increase in density above that which your master plan already contemplates for this site. Your master plan has for quite some time intended for this site
to be developed with up to two and a half 2.5 dwelling units per acre. And so we're below that. We're at 1.98. But we're not asking for any additional density beyond what your master plan. That's important to keep in mind because that is what your governing planning
document um envisions and has envisioned for um since the mid200s as far back as that could go showing that that property for the better part of 20 years uh had and there was an expectation that it would be developed with estate homes. And so, um, it's important to note that
you get many land use changes, not maybe not many, but you do get the you get some land use changes sometimes where you can do this much on a property, but applicants will come in and say, I want to do more than what is allowed under your master plan. This is not one of those cases. I think that's an important point uh, worth noting uh, because this
is already something that's contemplated by your master plan. existing zoning classification agriculture. I mean, by and large, most parcels in Miami Date County, both within within Homestead and and uninccorporated and and in other municipalities, until they are developed, they carry with them one of
two zoning categories, GU um or AU. Many carry AU because many were historically utilized for agriculture. That doesn't mean, however, that the master plan doesn't govern the intended use. And again, that's the estate density. So while the existing zoning is
agriculture, the master plan has contemplated, as I said, for over two decades, that this be developed with a residential project for a long time. It was farmed, much like all of South Bay and a lot of our county in general, and now we would seek the resoning um to
allow uh for us to um develop a project consistent with your master plan. And this is the uh the the graphic. Um it struck me when I looked at this graphic and just just to point out that the community the the much more longer established community to the east um on
the other side of 192nd Avenue and there's there's a few different you know that's been there for a long long time actually has low density um land use designation. So, what that means is that um it it that area could have up to six holding units per acre and and I know
it's fully developed and it's not envisioned, but just as a as a nod um while there are, you know, larger estate homes there today, there's nothing that the master plan um that precludes um at some point down the road from people perhaps assembling some of that and
seeking an approval in the future for for greater density. That's not possible for us. But it was telling to me that even an area that has the the larger estate home lots, um the city still has a more intense land use category. We don't have that. We are in the estate
density uh in its entirety and can't ask for that. So again before you this evening is the second reading of uh our request to resone the property to A2 which is your 1/2 acre estates site plan approval um which obviously all of your
projects require tentative flat approval which goes with your site plan approval. I'm skipping over but I'm I'm leaving um it for to to note that obviously a lot of the discussions that I had with all of you um regarded the variance and again our um guiding light in asking for
the variance was that it was um incredibly consistent almost down to you know within 0.02 dwelling units per acre um with the community that had been approved to the south Aspen Estates and I thought that that was telling and important. So, the very same variance
request that this council approved um about three years ago, give or take. Um I will note there's no CDD request before you this evening. I know a question came up earlier about um perhaps placing some restrictions on on a CDD and I can get into that a little later, but we will be filing and
processing for consideration by this council a CDD, the creation of a C or the recommendation by the city for the county commission to create the CDD. I have confirmed council woman because I don't want to forget later that a CDD petition can be made um without where it
um prevents or prohibits the expansion of that CDD um at a later date. So I will again we are filing that application. We will work that through. I I can't make a commitment for an application not before you this evening, but to the extent that there might be um
concerns um when that CDD application will I mean I actually already texted with CDD council. She's assured me that that commitment can be made. We can file it that way and when it comes before you obviously you'll be able to evaluate that. It's not before you today. What is also though telling is that there will
be no HOA. I think when we first started visiting with some of you prior to first reading, there was a discussion. Many of LAR's communities had both an HOA and a CDD. They they piggyback their responsibilities. They they serve different functions. Um given that there were um this community doesn't have a
centralized amenity like a clubhouse or something that required um other um management. um they the LAR is able to remove any HOA from here. Obviously, that represents a savings for these
folks. They'll have a CD and we'll have the numbers and the price and the amount when we come before you at a later date, but there will be no HOA. Many of the communities do have both. And so, I think that, you know, hopefully that will be um you know, positively weighed. Um this is a different kind of community. It's not a gated community.
It's not a amenitydriven community. is a community where folks are going to have larger homes and larger lots and um you know can can kind of do what they want within their their project. Um again and I've talked to this um our property in yellow 1.98
units per acre as the states 2.01. So I mean again we we um right there and very very slightly below. Um so I think that it's um telling that that we try to match that and try to create something. Um, and I will and I'll show you in the
site plan that again the the the road network does connect through. So even though these two communities are going to are being developed at a different time and you know the one to the south obviously is under development already um folks will have access through for for any kind of uh mobility purposes. Um
and there you have some of the information about the surrounding properties and I've been touching up on all of this um but basically um we are consistent with everything around us. we are a state density and around this we either have estate density or as I noted on the east low density we have the same zoning category in the county property
which is a part of this project but in the county they have a category called EUM it's a state density with EUM um and so we are compatible and again there's no small single family lots there's no town houses here there's none of that so it is um compatible in that sense um
obviously in showing this we we've talked a little bit about but here was um you know some of the the the highlights of that Aspen estate's approval, the density, the lot variance that it was approved, the tentative plat um and the redesation again almost mirroring many of the but all of the
requests um almost down to to the last comma or or detail and that um compatibility goes through also with the development pattern and the road network and everything that that is contained. I will note because I've been asked before um maybe this is a better slide. we we
don't control. Um, so there's a little notch up at the top. You see the little rectangle up there that that is owned by a different owner. It's my understanding that they're into the city or will be into the city for a similar type of estate home development. Um, at one point we had a conversation with them
that they, you know, for their own reasons and they they would not have to, of course, didn't didn't see a need to join our project. So um, but the the but the city is aware that that notch there while out of the confines of this project will also be developed with
estate homes. I just mentioned that so that um you all can can appreciate that it will be the same continuity of of of pattern. Um so here's uh the site plan. Um the yellow is the county parcel um that will be part of this development
and this community once finished. You know, letting the folks um it'll be curious, right? So people living sort of behind each other or half a block away are going to be in the county and not in the city. Um but that's where the city boundary is. So that parcel is already approved in yellow, but as you can see,
it ties in on the south and on the north and in the middle point. And then to the south, you see those connection points into Aspen. Um, particularly in that block in the bottom. And and I will talk a little bit about that block because that block is the block that contains some of those smaller lot sizes. And in
large part, it's because of the configuration of the roads to the south. When you look at those two roads to the south, you break up that square um and and at a at a fixed point, right? and you've got to connect exactly with the roads that exist to the south, which meant that we in in a couple of those
blocks don't have quite the depth of lots. I've gone back to the drawing board and I have a couple of thoughts and suggestions um for what we can do to enable and make sure that the that the future residents of those lots even if their lots are um the the the two blocks
are five feet less in depth. So obviously that makes a little bit of a difference with a backyard with the ability to have a pool exactly where you want it. And we have some some thought given and I'll wait if there's some questions as to how we might be able to ensure that even those lots even though
they're a little smaller still can enjoy a fully functional backyard. Um and and I we have some thoughts for those that that I happy to share with all of you. We'll get to it. um some of the site plan uh uh graphics again the 119 units and all the requests um for the variance
requests um the only variance required again is is the uh minimum building site the the the lot size and so I want to note here that um out of the 119 the you know 90 whatever it is 24 lots I I'll I'll stick to the number on the
screen 24 lots are under 17,000 so the the great majority of the lots are actually graded in 17,000 including many as you can see like the entirety of block 7 which is 19,000 the entirety of block 6 which is 18,500 and higher. So
by no means is the request to bring down every lot to the 15,800 or so feet that we have in a handful of lots. It's the majority of the lots are 1819. All of black block 9 as you can see on the right is 21,000 with the exception of a
couple of lots that are actually in excess of the halfacre. So again, the request is somewhat borne out by the road networks and how you break it up and then some of the blocks getting a little smaller. Um, and also driven candidly, as we've discussed with all of you, by a lot of market economics. The
development of the site is a fixed cost. The property comes at a fixed cost. I mean, whatever the cost of the land is, the water and sewer that will be brought to this site from the county. We're we're not going to be taxing the city's infrastructure here. we're we're we're
going to um tap tap into another LAR community that has to be brought in at the developer's cost. All of those are fixed costs regardless of the exact number of lots. And so, you know, given how expensive land is, how expensive development is, how expensive water infraure water and sewer infrastructure
is. The the project before you is the one that is able to provide for um a um a project that works for all folks. And and we've talked a little bit about the prices. I mean, these are homes that are we anticipate will go on the market between the middle 700s to the middle to
high 800s. So, it's in that spot um of of homes that are admittedly step up homes. I mean, most folks will buy an initial home. It might be a town home. It might be a small single family home. And this will be obviously uh you know, for a lot of folks a second family home
a little later in their life. um and and will provide for that space and amenities um that frankly is hard to get in most of Day County at this point to have 18 19 20 21,000 square feet lots. Um here is a graphic depiction. The
smallest lots um you had it in in the tab form or in the chart form. And here's the smallest lots. And again the the smaller lots are are principally driven by the fact that those road networks on the west side also break it
up. And so that is the space that we have to so to speak um on on both sides of those roads which when you then divide it up into the home sites generates the the lot sizes that you have before you. But it also means that it's well into the community will not be
visible from 296 or 192nd Avenue. That is those traversing through the area are not although I've said this before, it is difficult when you're driving to note the difference between a 16,000t lot and a 19,000 foot lot. I I I do this for a living and driving down the street
you're you're hardressed because it's both width and depth. So you it's really hard to see what you're going to see is an estateized lot. But nevertheless, they are within the community to the west side, closer to the county parcel, furthest away from the established pattern on the east side of 192nd Avenue
and the major thorough affairs of Avocado and 192nd. And I I think we've talked about the compatibility of the project um substantially. Um the tentative plat, which as as you all know um is um is is and I'm going to go back
because I want to touch on one other point. um the the tentative plat which is your um you know surveyor's review of all of the technical requirements of state and county uh procedures. So it's it's mostly governed by state and county
platting. Um but uh obviously your city has an obligation to approve the tentative plat. Plat is pursuant to your staff's recommendation and review consistent with the site plan and meets all of the requirements um for um the subdivision of this parcel. I brought it back to
this site plan because I wanted to talk a little bit because there was a lot of discussion. One of the requests that we got from staff and again we work closely with uh with Miss Storch and and her team at development services was the desire to have along the northern perimeter of the property on 296 along
the eastern perimeter on 190 second avenue on the um 300 street which is a street that basically bisects our project from the estimates project and then on 194th coming down um a wider 10-foot buffer and I've had some
discussions about the implications of that, but I I think the belief and desire was that that buffer um would provide again for some visible um greater plantings that would provide an opportunity for um again folks driving through to see a more lushly landscaped
area rather than folks um not having that 10-ft buffer along those thoroughares and just being able to see more into the backyards of homes. What we're proposing here is um with that additional 10 feet of planting is and and those 10 feet of planting will have
trees, not bushes. So those trees obviously with the rain that we get in South Florida will grow and we'll provide for a canopy and and a visual break um where you know you you won't really see on avocado in 192nd in a few years the homes that are behind it
because those lots and we were counting them and and most of the lots have eight trees across their backyard. Um, so they're they're they'll grow and they'll they'll fill out. Um, one other point on that that I can confirm. I was asked a question by Councilwoman Avula, so I'll
I'll jump the gun here is um we are um planting um hedges and and and what we're doing is they're on the plans shown as 3T tall um but they will grow to six feet. Now if we plant taller and
we have one of our sort of land development folks here from LAR today. If we plant taller hedges today, they have to be planted further apart because their root structure is larger. If you do that, they might stay there. They'll they'll be full size, but because they have to be planted further apart
initially, you'll create gaps. So, you'll have the taller, but you'll create gaps. And so your concern of somebody walking on the sidewalk on 296, being able to look into someone's backyard would actually be less um contained than planting them at 3 ft
closer and allowing them to grow in to their full size of 6 feet. But since they're planted at a closer time, they grow in and and get closer together. So if we plant them taller, they have to be planted further apart and they don't come in quite as fully and you end up with gaps. That's what the plan shows today. My hope is that that would
ameliate your concern because the intention is that that does grow to be approximately six feet. The fence is 5 feet that would be six feet on like 6'2. So again, unless you're talking about someone very tall and by the way, those folks would then have to see across 10 ft wide of trees. So, I I think
hopefully we we can address um I started writing it down as a condition for possible approval this evening, but I believe what's shown today is the 3 ft um tall as a space that will provide for that canopy. But I know you've got staff here that you can ask that for our our
goal would be to create, you know, something that is that is private. So, I did want to talk about that a little bit. Um I will say that we are um we we have a you know we will be providing a a flag. So the middle the one middle green parcel that you see there um right there
um serves two purposes. It's not really a common amenity. It is a lift station and it is the mailbox kiosk because as you all know the US postal service no longer delivers to every home. They they deliver to um a centralized location for every development across the country. That is not something we can get out of.
So that that will have the mailbox kiosk and that will also have the lift station that we need for our project. Um and so we will have a flag there which is the kind of the center point of that community on 300th street and 194th Avenue. I can also say that if it's the wish of this council we are happy to
include a um I had to look up what it's called but it's called a flag pole bracket and we can install flag pole bracket on each home as we construct those homes. Um and and you know folks can then fly as we discussed sometimes it's football season you fly a
Hurricanes flag or a Notre Dame flag and uh uh that was for you Councilman Fletcher. Um better luck next year. Um but um but obviously American flag during all the all of our holidays, an Easter flag, well whatever the case may be. So the homes will all come with a
with a flag pole bracket. I know that that was requested. And again, um, I'll I'll leave some time to discuss, um, I I touched on the CD, um, the ability to limit the CDD from any future expansion when the CD item is before you. So, I I had it in my notes that I wanted to
comment on. And the other one was for those lots um, in block 10 um, which is the the the least deep lots. Um we have some I we have some options in which we could
ensure that even with the slightly they're still 131 feet deep. I don't want anyone to think that these are like not deep lots but other lots are 135 140 142. So the loss of those three feet does impact the usability when you add
in the setbacks and and so it would be a little more challenging for the five homes in that block to for instance add a pool but just for those five it it would you know be a little bit more difficult. We do have a solution. we can select and put certain models there, the
smaller models. And obviously since they're smaller, there's a little bit more room in the back. If if this council wishes, we can have a conversation during questions, but that would ensure that even those five homes um would have the opportunity for that family that purchases the home to add a
pool at a later date and have the room for it, which, you know, again, not every house has a pool and some folks may never add one, but giving the option is is always a good one. So, um I think we've kind of hit on all of the themes and we had a lot of questions and I've tried to anticipate some of the questions um that you've all asked
already, but I suspect you'll have a few more and I'm happy to answer those. Um you know, for us, it's about being compatible to a recent approval. It's about being compatible to the area and the community. It's about not seeking greater density than that which the master plan allows. It's at coming in at
1.98 dwelling units per acre where you could have up to 2.5. That's what your master plan says. It's not, you know, not us picking a number. Um, it's about making sure that the project is compatible and will be something proud. And, um, you know, on that note, I leave you with scrolling through some of the
architecture, which, you know, I often get more comments. Listen, architecture is tough. Colors, everybody, you know, we all like what we like, but we did go for something different. Lar certainly hasn't built this type of home in their community. Um, they built a lot more on
the east side. It's a different typology of architecture here. As you can see the homes, you know, with the sighting, the different color garages. I mean, there's a lot that's being done here. Um, homes that have their garages on the side, for instance. I mean, obviously state homes and so you hide the garage entirely. You
provide relief and elevations at the different places. Um, predominantly one-story models since the lots are bigger. Um, we do and as you can see in this graphic and in this one here, there are some some two-story models for the families that need a little more space or want the privacy. Some folks like to
have their bedroom upstairs, whatever the case may be. But again, um, options and models and I think color palettes that um, hopefully complement a lot of what you're seeing um, and and the sighting and some of the architectural features that uh, hopefully are are um,
amanable and um, acceptable to to the council. and we worked on some of those obviously with your development services director too. So, um I leave you with the pretty pictures because that's always the way to do it. I would urge you this evening to um approve all four requests before you. I will leave it to your attorney to tell you the order. Um
I thank you all for your time because I know we met on several occasions with all of you and I look forward to answering your questions. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Arza. Let me before we jump into any questions we may have, let me look to the audience and online and see if there are any members of the
public who wish to speak either in favor or against this package of applications. Is there anyone online, anyone in the audience would wish to speak with respect to
this new development? Okay, then last chance. I'll close the public hearing then and open it up to council's questions and comments who'd like to kick it off. >> All right, go ahead.
>> Don't all jump at once. >> It's and I'm going to say a lot of the stuff I want to say are things we've already discussed. Okay, good. >> Um >> I tried I tried I had my list here. It's >> um I will I won't be supporting the zoning change, but I'm assuming it'll pass. And so with that, I'll continue with my other comments. Okay. The growth
is coming, but what we can control is whether or not the growth is going to erase our image and replace it or if it's going to reflect uh what we want it to reflect, which is our our homestead and agricultural roots and lifestyle that we want to preserve. We want it to
mesh well with our future. Um I can appreciate the the architectural design that was um displayed in this in this plan. I appreciate the color scheme. I think it looks modern and fresh and can appeal to
the the the message that I'm trying to relay here. What what I am a little disappointed with is the landscaping um plan in general. I know you mentioned about the the hedge, which I can understand that they if the hedge is the type of plant that can grow to six feet,
fine. But the pictures that I saw are small, more ground covered type of hedges that maybe can grow to two feet. Um, so I'd like to see that um be more specific. And with regards to the just the way that the sidewalk uh maybe is
shaped instead of straight lines, more ergonomic or uh curvier shapes. I I would have loved to see some more um influences for agricultural gardentot lifestyle. As you mentioned, this is a step up, right? Maybe these families are
more mature. They have older children. they're maybe getting into their uh more mature years as parents and spending more time at home and gardening and things like that. There's the other community that we're using as a as a base for this one had um garden raised
garden beds as part of their their site plan accommodations. Uh so, you know, are these things that you have already considered and can potentially um add to this to this project? And um and I and I hope so because LAR has been very
successful in creating Agrahood style uh communities in Florida and and I would expect that you you know that that Lenar could be the example and the the can set that um standard here in Homestead. Um we really don't have a lot of
opportunity to make these design um initiatives um because of everything getting built out. So if this is going to I would really encourage council to try to try to include these types of aspects. the
porches could have been more prominent so that you have that um inside that more outside living appeal and um and I think you know the fact that there's no HOA is
definitely a plus but that could have been the mechanism to maybe helped with um creating um more outside areas and amenities for the families to enjoy. that could that could promote that agricultural loving
lifestyle. And you know, I know that there's the debate of that's not the buyer we want to attract, but that's the that's the buyer we want to have here in Homestead, one who's going to continue to promote the voice of we're Homestead. We're not other areas. So, I I'll rest there. I'd love
to hear the comments of um of my colleagues and and um reserve for response later. Thank you. >> Thank you, Councilwoman. Vice Mayor Bailey. >> Thank you, Mayor. I definitely would like to hear some
more comments from you all as well. Um, you know, a lot of times when these variances come up, there is no hardship and we understand that it's a matter of maybe making it a little more uniform, getting a couple more units in there,
which I can appreciate is in the end going to lower the price a little bit for our residents. But at the same time, Um, offering to put in a smaller house so that they can potentially have a pool. Definitely not what we're looking
for. Um, >> to be fair, I mean, the smaller house is, I think, still about 3,000 square feet. I mean, no one would be I mean, it's still a a large home, but just I mean, I I if I said it that way, I just want to clarify that point. I mean, it's not a small home.
>> I understand that. But to get into the thinking about that, then I just start going in these crazy rabbit holes of trying to imagine what people would want. And obviously we are none of us are ever going to know. Um, but this is one of the last lots that we have for
these halfacre homes and there is a very big difference from the smallest to what should be approved. So, raised gardens, that was one of one of the small pieces. Um,
that was concessioned for that other >> project. Um, for me, the side setbacks and the backyards are key for homestead. I feel like a lot of us do um do our living
outside of the house as well. Uh, the porch is a good is a good point. that maybe would be a better concession. I know that you're not asking for a setback of the 50. What is it? 50. >> Yes, front is 50. >> Is it 52? >> 50. >> 50.
>> Um, so that's a that's a lot of front yard. >> I think that most most people it is a backyard thing, but if it does pass again that we can um consider having a
larger porch. Um, side setbacks obviously aren't an issue here. Um, but that's one thing that after you you visit somewhere and you just feel that house right next to you, that's not um not what we're
looking for. Um, flag pole bracket, right? But we need to talk a little more. Um so hence the I would like to hear more from from my colleagues just because um
yeah I would the one thing I'm glad about is that block 11 block 11 where they're the backyards are facing each other before we were able to talk specifics
with the dimensions there. I was going to be a definite no because they look smaller than >> the middle block or sorry >> then block block 10 and 12. >> Right. Right. >> So 11 >> if you can point to that. >> Yeah. Which is >> those are the three blocks with the small.
>> Right. Right. And so that one I have. Yeah. There you go. >> So they end up being 30 >> 135 to 136 deep. not the 131 of block 10. Block 12 is also 135 to 136 deep. So, um 10 is the one that is by about 5t
on average less deep >> and then those backyards would be 29 >> width there >> 100 ft. >> 100. >> Yeah. Yeah. The lots are 100 ft wide. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean the the homes I mean we have no sight setbacks. So, um and we have no um lot frontage. The lot
size varies but not a lot frontage. So these homes are going to be your neighbor's home and your home are going to be to code as far as your code requires. So there is no seeing like you know it's it's even if this were being
developed without the size variance lot size variance the distance between the structures would be exactly the same. >> Right. Right. So so we we're not you know and that does go a long way to giving folks a sense of privacy. Right. You can't reach out and touch. I mean, no, you've got, you know, 40 to 50 ft
between you and your neighbor's house with your property lineed the way. So, there is an ample difference. >> And is this one of those projects where you are going where LAR is going to reach out to potential buyers for them to choose the size of the home that goes
or >> Yeah. No, they they absolutely I mean, so LAR will will sell it'll have a sales center. It'll have a really >> a few of the models available. all the models if if approved the the the various models that you would have and then typically a buyer they can correct
me but I've done this enough times I mean a buyer would come in a family they come in they look at a lot they may be interested in a home and then they that's how they generate their price we we could in an effort to ensure that anyone who ultimately buys a home in
block 10 we could say in for these five out of 119 for these five homes your choice is limited to these smaller again 3,000. >> So that's going to be their that's going to be their preference. Maybe the 29 ft backyard is perfect for them because
they just want a small patio. So that's my point is they would be able to see that and know I'm choosing the twobedroom or the threebedroom and I'm not getting a pool or vice versa. >> More like three or four or five. But yes, bedrooms. Yes. Yes. I'm absolutely right. My backyard. the smallest any of
those backyards could be would be 29 >> for the two smallest models. Um either of the two smallest models in block 10 would permit for a 10 by 15. >> Correct. But regardless of the size of the house, the smallest backyard would be 29 ft.
>> I'd have to double check that. That's a number I didn't crunch, but I can. It's here. Okay. I mean I Is that >> the setback? The required setback is 25. the required setback is 25 >> and you are comp >> right so it sounds like yeah because we weren't right at the
>> 25 could be more depending on the >> so I guess yes we weren't asking for variance so it could have it could have been as small as 25 but yes then it's 29 I'm sorry I gave you that sheet I didn't get it back so >> I said I I said I'd have it here you never came >> it's okay so yeah I just didn't have it
but yes so if that's what that says that would be >> what other concessions come to mind that you can throw out there before My comments. >> Well, look, I I I'll touch on the the issue of the planter boxes. We've talked about that. I mean, obviously, Aspen Estates, I don't think it's sold out or is selling yet. Um, as an offer, as an
option, I I think we'd be happy to make that available to buyers. I think you, Councilwoman, I'm going to use your words, you yourself said. I mean, look, you know, most people if they want that will go to Home Depot and buy that for a few hundred dollars. I mean, I don't think that this is a, you know, but if if in an effort to have it be a nod to a
continuation of a theme. Um, making it so that they don't have to go to Home Depot that it could be something that could be placed there for them, you know, a an herb little herb garden or whatever the case may be, flowers, something to to promote. Um, >> to be fair, that was just an example.
And with the Aspen Estates, they actually had a home a homeowners association that was going to promote special programming within the community where there would be, >> you know, more participation, organized participation. But the I think the example is that
>> it's a very small gesture, right? >> That could mean a lot and could encourage somebody who may not otherwise take the time to do it to start trying. >> Yeah. I I don't I don't think we have any objection to making that, you know, to making that something that can be offered. just to >> if the programming isn't there in the
HOA to help with it, then at the same time it is a $200 pain in the neck for someone. >> Sure. Yeah. Well, they can choose it. But I'm saying that's what I'm saying. I think we can make it an option that we would go ahead and when it gets built install it so that nobody's got to go do it later. That's what I'm offering. And
that way that might be a person that thinks that they want to do it. Yeah. I mean, I think it's a I mean, personally, I think most homeowners would rather not pay an additional HOA fee to, you know, I mean, your city has a lot of programs to promote farming. I mean, I think there's a lot of other ways that folks could probably address that, but we could give them the option, and I'm
happy to include giving them the option as as an opportunity. >> Um, >> I mean, thank you. >> Thank you, Councilwoman. Council Fletcher, >> I'll just uh start by saying uh ultimately I've never been a fan of the
architecture that's ever been provided to us on any of these projects. Okay. Uh but that's my personal preference. >> Okay. Uh LAR sells properties all over the United States with different styles and you could go to their website and see and I I may like one more than the other. Not up to me. I'm not buying this
house. I live where I live. I never thought I'd like the Mediterranean style I live in, but I love it. Um, so I think it to each their own when they're buying a home. Uh, I I believe the lot sizes are comparable to what we've approved in the past. Uh, again, would I like to
have larger lots? Absolutely. But I think ultimately they're going to be in relation to what folks like as far as setbacks concerned. I would like to see more circular driveways with the larger front yards. But again, that's my inner
architect out there and nobody's going to agree with me on everything. Um, I will just have to to say that the the buyer is going to have to to make their choice when they buy the house. Um, I I can support this tonight based on what it's at.
Again, the color palettes, there's going to be offered different colors, but if you look at most of the developments in town, they're all the same color. And I'm not a fan of that. But again, that's the buyer's preference at that point. Um, I don't want to put too many restrictions on the the builder because those restrictions start costing more
money and and the houses become more. So, I'll rest it there for now and I'm open to hearing the other comments and I may change my mind on one or two things. Thank you. >> Thank you, Councilwoman Fledge. Oh, who wants to jump in? Councilwoman
Ksky or Councilwoman Roth first? Go ahead. Council Councilwoman Ksky. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um, Mr. Arza, um, you're in my neighborhood. >> Yes, you told me. >> Yes. And on our farmland.
>> And what? I'm sorry. >> And on our farmland, which is very near and dear to me and to the neighboring um, residents that live there. Um I have stressed my concern that you are on the cusp of the Redlands and um my concern
in you being conducive to what is in the Redlands even though this is Homestead. Um I understand that development is coming. >> There's not much that we can do to stop it. Um but I want you to consider the uniqueness of the area. Um, I'm very
saddened to see what the county has approved to the west of you as we're making that transition into those larger lots, larger homes, a true estate house where people have customuilt their home and made it exactly what they want, that uniqueness that the Redland uh area
offers. So, that has always been my concern with you is that um I hate to use the word cookie cutter, but you know, it's it when they all look the same as as Mr. Fletcher has pointed out. Um I'm I don't favor that either.
Um >> the term plan development. >> Plan development. Sorry. >> No, but your point is taken. >> I agree with um Councilwoman Avala as well that you know we're trying to retain what we can of our farmland.
Um, I just want to represent my my district well >> and know that I want to offer them the best I can with what's coming down the road. I whether it's today or tomorrow, I'd rather see homes of a larger scale,
larger lot line, uh, land. you know, if we're going to make this unique like an estate home, let's give them room like we discussed for recreation vehicles, their boats, their their pole barns, their workshops, you know, um this is a smaller scale to what they could
possibly buy in the Redlands instead of buying two and a half or five acres to build on. You're offering something different. So, let's offer them that, you know, let's let's um make it something that it will transition. Well, that that's always been my request. So,
um, I'll rest there. >> Yeah. And we talked about this and just to point out, I mean, obviously, I think with the vast majority of the lots being 19, 18, 19, 20,000, I mean, your city regulations will govern um the use that you're referring to. I mean, and there
are for the vast majority of the these properties, there are 40 or 50 by 40, 50 feet wide entire areas in their backyards where they can build an accessory structure, where they could build all that. nothing is prescribed by what we're proposing here. Admittedly, some of the smaller lots may not be able
to enjoy all of those um opportunities. You know, maybe you can't have, you know, all of those. By the way, in the county, you can't have multiple accessory units unless you get special permission either. So, it's it's, you know, it's on a smaller scale, but nothing here prescribes if they meet
your code otherwise. This is not a PUB or something where we're going to tell people as long as they meet code. I mean, if somebody wants to do, you know, an accessory in the backyard such as the ones we were talking about, um, they would be able to do so. Um, and for a lot of the lots, um, they will, they
would have room. They could choose to do that instead of a pool or do a smaller pool and do that. So, that option will be there. As you said, on a smaller scale, the 2 and a half or 5acre parcel, and you know this because of your line of work, is considerably more expensive. And so, it is a trade-off. and a family may say, "Well, this gives me a new
home." The ability to do one of those things and, you know, get a taste of all of that. Undoubtedly, if they could, they, you know, perhaps would love to buy the 2 and 1/2acre parcel outside. Um, but that one comes at probably twice the cost. We would know better, but I
think it's hard to find a 2 and 1 halfacre parcel in the Redlands for less than a million and a half or maybe more. These homes are going to be half, a little more than half the price. It's a trade-off. I mean, these are families that are going to come into your community. we'll still be able to do some of those things admittedly on a smaller scale. So I I mean we're trying
to find that balance council. Okay. So I'm really torn as the grant as someone who's lived here my entire life who had his brothers this would remain a farm field. That's
not reality. And I don't really think that that's what's trying to be saved here. I think what's trying to be saved is the atmosphere >> of more open spaces and you know as on one hand as the grandson of somebody who
built a lot of custom homes throughout Homestead and the Redlands built what people wanted as they wanted it. nothing ever looks alike versus the reality of the cost of land, the cost of construction, and the time value of of
money. So to I think to both of Councilwoman Ksky and and Alvala's point, you know, this is a unique potential for a unique neighborhood where people have plenty of room to live outside.
>> Typically in their backyard, >> we're not Mayberry. People aren't living on their front porches. Maybe someday when redevelopment comes on the west side of downtown on a larger scale than Pioneer Village, maybe. So,
uh, my neighborhood, you know, and and I get you didn't want to come here with too many variances. You know, I think most everybody knows where I live. My house is set back about 25 ft and I've got room for three massive oak trees in the front yard.
thinking out loud and and and it just dawned on me here tonight that on the size lots that we're talking about, a 50 foot setback for a front yard is the waste of a lot of space.
That you're killing the backyard. Thinking out loud, even at 35 feet, you still have plenty of room for the circular driveway, the the the pad going into the garage.
It could accommodate a car without being out in the sidewalk or or blocking the street. And I'm wondering if your concern, my colleagues concerns of open space and cramped backyards could be alleviated
by layering in everybody being at a front setback of 35 ft to create backyards that are 15 feet deeper. Now look, I don't know if anybody and everybody wants planting beds, but if we
want to create old South Dade and Old Homestead, we could talk about every backyard coming with some fruit trees or an avocado tree or a mango tree or what have you as part of the landscaping
plan. Yeah, I hate to say it, but this is this is not going to be a property. the folks who are selling it are not agriculturalist. We're we're way beyond that. So, if it's a look and a feel and
an atmosphere, and again, just thinking out loud, I'm wondering if to a certain extent that could be adjusted by moving everything up to the 35- foot setback line and and layering in a couple of kinds of
fruit trees in the backyard somewhere like old Miami, old Pinerest before it was Pinerest where every, you know, the ones that are left, they got massive ancient ancient mango trees in the uh in the backyard. So,
dispensing with all that theoretical uh frustrated architect and and planner when we first talked about this, you know, we obviously made the analysis to the DR project to the south and I'm sorry, the name of the subdivision escapes me. >> Aspen estates.
>> Aspen Estates. You know, we're trying kind of making a onetoone comparison. One of the issues we had in Aspen Estates was it was all singlestory >> and I think we talked about that when you first came to visit me and to me
that's very appealing and I understand here you've got at least one >> we have one twotory model >> twotory model >> right >> um >> the majority of the models are one story >> yeah um and echoing Councilman Fletcher not that that's great but these designs
are a step up from what we have seen in Homestead in deep south aid. So to that extent, I'll compliment your client who's who's with you uh today. So So I'm I'm wondering if and I understand it's a major adjustment. And going back to the
drawing board, if that would ease some of the discomfort some of you have with this entire package by moving the houses slightly forward to create larger backyards that can
accommodate the pole barns, the sheds, the pools, and fruit trees and shade trees. Councilwoman, >> thank you, Mayor. You know what I was really what I really would like to have is the client take ownership of of
bringing forward the ideas as we off the cusp here. We can think of a couple things. >> Well, that that requires variance to be fair. >> Well, and I understand that and I think that if you're showing us a 50 a 50 foot front yard and a 10-ft backyard like doesn't make sense to us. So, you know,
sometimes contractors will call their inspection so that it can fail, hear what you need to do, and then call back the inspector to pass the second time. And I think this is the opportunity for you to take it back, redesign the the backyard and bring us some options that a
potential buyer could select from that promotes the agricultural and preserves the agricultural components of our community. So, bigger yards, um, the fruit trees. >> Well, you just do it rather than have it as an option. You just >> Right. But you know,
>> and that would be in their landscaping plan >> in their landscaping plan >> that we would approve, >> right? The single stories. What I would like to see as well is just maybe, you know, instead of it being square lines or straight lines, give show me some
some movement in the design. Um, and Lenar Larara is an excellent corporate citizen, right? I'm not going to ask you guys to help us create programming, but profer something. You're asking for a variance like help us get there.
>> So, I'll rest again. Thank you. >> And and that's the difference. You know, I like traditional old neighborhoods with the straight streets because you've got a heavy landscaping plan that basically hides the density
that is, you know, the straight line is more in line with what was traditionally on the west side than the curvy linear streets. >> I think I messed up. >> Did Yeah. >> Okay. Yeah, I was thinking, you know, because Yeah, the streets. But just
thinking out loud, 50 feet of front yard in my neighborhood, cuz those lots are essentially, you know, my neighborhood runs from 15,000 and I'm on a little over 20,000. 50 ft of front yard is a lot of wasted space. Um,
I think it it would make for a much more livable and usable piece of property. Mayor if I may >> also early on um in in our city manager's um appointment there was a lot
of discussion about creating a community benefits package. I have I haven't seen that. I I don't recall seeing one on on previous developments in the recent um you know in the recent applications. Is there a community benefits package
that I'm overlooking in this case? >> Nothing beyond impact fees and and the like. All right. So that so that might be an opportunity for for us to consider >> coming. So I think the city attorney is going to do a comprehensive code rewrite
which is where he's going to embed some of these initiatives into the city code. >> Well, go ahead, Vice Mayor. >> Thank you. if if if if it's going the way I think it is tonight and they have a chance to go and reimagine uh maybe also look at you know if you're
moving the house closer to the street allow for that potential extra accessory building in the backyard similar to maybe a one-bedroom with a small garage type scenario workshop like we kind of have in Westberry now to have that potential there where you could put a
in-law if you needed to down the road to to help with those those type of issues. >> Let's don't double density. Let's find a place to to to put your boat and your play cars. Not >> not renters that create more solid
wasters. It'd be more like again more more family type oriented like we would do back in the old days, >> right? I think you know there is experience here because Lenar leads on that nextgen product where you can have it's there's a sandwich family where you have the the parents raising their children but their the grandparents are
also with them and that's the village concept but um >> and I'm open to something like that again just uh if it were in mine I I would live in a condo without any yard and and I'd want a garage to go with it a big garage. So,
thank you. But, you know, I And look, I don't know because we've got we've got a reasonzoning, which you're entitled to because of the comp plan overlay. Your next item, your next just to to recap so we're all on the same page. You got the reasonzoning
from AU to estate density >> A2 >> to A2 >> which you're entitled to because of our longstanding overlay. And then the next question becomes how are you going to lay the
lots out? And so the next item per vote would be the variance correct >> for the lot sizes. If the variance fails, >> you go no further than >> correct >> than that. And you know this, I'm not preaching lawyer just so that we all,
>> you know, kind of take a step back and and see where we are in the uh in the process. So let me ask you this. Hypothetically speaking, what would be the expense and time frame
to layer in a variance for a 35 rather than a 50ft setback? >> Realistically, it probably would take us two months to get back here. And my guess is, you know, you have to redo all the plans. Everything needs to be shown.
You got to get it to the city. The city has to review. We've already looked at everything else. >> Then I mean I I won't put them on the spot. Then you know I mean I can assure you the director our our yeah our architects would prepare that and get it to the city and you know by early next
week something like that. Obviously that will require an additional item and then that's you know >> well but that's just a a text filing. You're not >> relocating and redrawing >> your lots. >> Well I think I think we do show depictions on all of the sites of the
distance. all of your development services folks are nodding. So yeah, I think those have to now I mean look that's that's a CAD program that and I'm speaking the only people not here tonight are the architects and I'm putting words in their mouth but we could probably get that to you guys in short order. We would have to of course
file an application for an additional variance request staff would prepare their um undoubtedly recommendation of denial because there would be no hardship necessarily. You bring up great points. Trust me that you said it like we try not to ask for any other variances. It it stands to reason that
50 foot front yard is a really big front yard and 35 or 40 would would you know still look nice and would just give people that extra room. Um but it would be an additional item that would come with >> basically we're doing R1 lots under an A2 category. >> Uh
>> homestead R1, right? >> No, your R A R R1 would be 7500. We're not doing that. >> Okay. >> Yeah. No. Um, we're doing kind of county eum plus, right? Like nothing is smaller than doing
>> because let's not kid ourselves. I some kind of development is going to happen. >> Yeah. >> On this site at some time. >> Mayor, I I suspect if we if your front setback was 40t in your code or 35, we would have designed it to 40 or 35 and
we may not be having this discussion. So it's 50. We don't like to ask for a lot of variances. We were trying to match something. So now if we go through and submit, revise our plans, whatever has to be depicted, file the application and show it, you will have an additional
variance, but we could certainly address >> a number of the concerns because you'll have more >> that could overcome the open space concern. >> Right. You you'll have more usable open space, >> backyard usability. >> Exactly. Yeah. you'll have more usable open space to provide wasted space,
>> right? And I think as you put it that it's it's not you're not preserving farmland say that you can preserve a a >> the field >> the field with additional obviously backyard with more trees or the potential then to have that accessory size which again a lot of the lots do
provide for that but certainly if you move the houses forward, >> right? >> You know then those lots will be that much more and even the smaller lots will all have ample backyards to do at least some of those things. So, um, look, you know, obviously we can, um, appreciate
some of the comments and I can read the room. Um, you know, certainly we would welcome an opportunity to think down those lines, but I do want to be clear on the record. That would be an additional >> clearance. Sure. Let me let me ask the attorney though and I put you on the spot not and not practice on my own up
here. If the reasonzoning passed tonight, our next item is the variance from the lot sizes. If that passes, we go on to the next two votes and everything moves forward.
If the variance were to fail, in order for that to come back, there would have to be a motion for rehearing by someone who voted against the variance. And only at that point would
you be in position to bring to bring an application back that would would include the variance for the law size and the setback. Is that fair?
>> James the way that it works in your code is that if you denied it, you would deny it with either prejudice or not with not prejudice. And the difference is whether you can bring it back in six months or a year. You you you could uh look, it's an irrelevant point. I I think you could
also It's an irrelevant point because I'm probably not going to I'm going to hope that we don't even get to that vote if it's not going to pass. But I also think you could you could pass you could you could vote it down in theory and um
remove the six-month cooling off period. Correct. No, I I do I do, but I want to but the lawyer in me wants to answer the question. I mean, certainly I want to get the project approved this evening. >> He could do that, but he's got to get client approval. >> Yeah. I mean, I I would prefer I mean, I
I would um think it would show, you know, you know, to my client at least some some ability to move forward some faith that we could I mean, if the property could be reszoned to your point, you could take the first vote, property gets >> second reading and you >> and then, you know, reszone the property. I mean, this is an appropriate
category. you have a recommendation of approval and then we would respectfully prior to the second the variance item potentially failing and I you know can count to seven or four um not much higher than that that's why I'm a lawyer um we would respectfully ask that you
defer the remaining items let us discuss with staff and then we could modify the application to include potentially an additional variance and move and come back to you I would rather not get into denying it and and having to resubmit reapply because that that does require
you to file the application a new which is a bunch of costs and I know I don't think anybody >> it's going to go forward in some form and we don't want to put undue burden we're not giving away the farm pardon the pun we're not giving away the farm here
tonight but we don't want to put an undue in unblue do burden >> out there >> um do you need us to take a break and have you confer with your client Yeah, I mean I I I' I'd like to Yeah, for for sure. I don't think I need more than couple.
>> Let's recess for five minutes. Allow you to confer with your client. Yes, Councilman Fletcher. >> And I'll also make a motion to extend the meeting to 9:30. >> Okay, so we got that. Let's move to extend this meeting to 9:30. I'll second that. All in favor? >> Any opposed? All right. So, my iPhone
says it's 8:23. So, at let's just say 8:30, we will come out of recess. Okay, we'll call this meeting out of recess and back in session. >> Mr. Ar. >> Yes, mayor. So, um, thank you for the
time to confer with my client. So, um, what we've got more than anything else is a bit of a time crunch as you know. application was submitted well over a year ago. It's just taken time to get here. Even first reading was a couple months ago. So, we've just kind of lost some time along the way. Um, and so, you
know, we've got sellers that have expectations that, you know, believe we'd be done this evening and we'll have to go back to them and secure extensions. And more than half of you on this board are real estate professionals of one type or another. So, you know how that process can go sometimes. So, um, you know, we believe we could do so, but
we'd be very hardressed not to do it for more than to next month's meeting. So, um we we really, you know, we just think the sellers, you know, might want to extract too big a a pound of flesh, so to speak, if we ask for more time than that, um one that would be unsailable.
So, um I if our team could resubmit or submit um the additional variance and the revised site plan, um the additional variance would be a front setback variance and the revised site plan to show then that the homes are closer to
the front by close of business on Monday, which is the 27th, I believe. um you know of of April um you know I would love for there to be some communication today that they could staff and the
administration could start working I mean look they have the recommendation of denial for the existing variance they're going to I know the recommendation >> it's the same analysis >> it's the same exactly so if if we had I mean in good faith and we've worked with I work with m storage for 20 years if in
good faith we can all agree that we will get it in by close of business on Friday to give by Monday excuse today. I I just kind of, you know, it's they're not going to look at this till tomorrow. So, by Monday, close of business um for staff to receive, evaluate. There's no
DRC, additional special DRC. I mean, this is part of a project that's been looked at for over a year. Um and that we would be back here for the main meeting. um with the deferred items plus the additional variance, you know, we will go to the sellers and, you know, hope that we can, you know, make it work
with just the additional month. I think to get into anything longer than that might imperil the ability >> Let me let me ask the director, is that within the realm of possibility to review a variance? >> The important thing is that you define as soon as possible the the variance that you are going to ask for because we
need to advertise for that. The rest we are going to we are going to defer. So if the size of the lots remain the same and that's the only thing we need to request, we need to know that as soon as possible to have time to advertise, send the notices and >> it will I think the the council
expressed the desire to see a 35 foot front setback. So our Right. Is that what you said, Mayor? 35. >> I said 35. Yeah, >> 35. Right. So I mean the request would be consistent with front a variance of the front setback where all lots require
a 50 foot front setback to 35 ft and you know and then obviously the pictures need to depict that but that for legal purposes and I don't know James I mean that I mean that's pretty stand. Yeah, I I I'm not concerned the legal I I can I can commit to having the legal
description or the legal request for the variance to staff by Friday and then we'll work on it tomorrow and get it done by Friday. That's the part that I can do. I'm not an architect. I don't want to put in their mouths redoing the plan. I need to let those professionals do their job. We'll have that by Monday, but that would be there by Friday, which
I mean, again, I know you got it advertised for next month or so. Um, with that again, I I think it would help us and go a long way and hopefully in the spirit of compromise if the reasoning, which we all agree this is an appropriate category can occur, give some comfort to our sellers >> to work with us. We don't want them to
run for the hills. um and and and make this, you know, an impossibility and then defer the remaining three items. >> Yeah, the three items >> and and come back then with, you know, those three plus an additional one and layer in some of the other things as as now that we have room and we can do so then then we'll look into obviously some
of the other concerns that were brought in and see what else we can we can add. But that's the big >> Okay, appreciate that. So, yes, vice mayor. >> Thank you, mayor. Um, first staff there in the middle, that block 11 where the backyards are facing each other. We're
talking about moving the homes closer to the front. But what does that look like for their backyard? Is that going to be some type of entrance on the side of everyone's house if they want to take a boat to the back? How does that even work?
>> They still got the width. That doesn't >> doesn't change anything. >> Right. But I'm I'm trying to picture what that looks like. If you're the house in the middle, you're going to drive your boat between the two homes to your backyard. >> No, there's no house in the middle. The the Sorry, let me back.
>> There's There's only two houses. So, everybody comes from a street and goes to their backyard. >> The fronts. No, >> these backyards are touching each other. They're facing each other. So, how does this person get their boats in their
backyard >> from the front? >> This is the front >> through the middle. That's what I meant. Between two homes. So, on their side. >> Okay. I just wanted to make sure that the side setbacks would allow if that's
the point of this whole thing. I think that I think that you your architect should re relook at that and see maybe you the 10 setback is the minimum setback required. Maybe you need there to leave 50. So 15 so they can drive to the to the backyard
>> but currently it's only 10. >> Well that's your code again. >> So if we're talking about the point of having boats and and additional >> there goes your two hours in front only. then that that serves no. >> But that's just for those smallest lots and people are going to have to understand that. But you're you're
enhancing everyone else's backyard. >> No, we're only talking about 10, 11, and 12. Or are we talking about the entire >> We're talking about the entire >> No, I mean the the moving to the front we understood to mean >> the whole project moving the houses >> so that everybody's backyard is bigger, right?
>> Give everybody a bigger backyard. >> Yeah. Yeah. Not just for those three >> within the confines of the existing drawing. >> Will you be able to meet with us >> between now and and Monday even virtually to consider some
>> just to continue the conversation? >> Yeah, of course. Of course. >> And the landscaping improvements. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. >> You mean the the fruit trees are Does your code prohibit that? >> Some codes I know are funky about fruit trees. >> The fruit trees. And my last well >> I just want to make sure we don't
>> that would be supple supplemental to what's already required in the code. >> Okay. But it isn't prohibited. You don't have a a prohibition on Okay. Good. >> On canker trees. C canker trees. >> Director with the new item that's coming up regarding landscaping and the requirements. This project wouldn't fall
in line. >> Doesn't change anything. >> Yeah, it already. >> Vice Mayor, if I may step in. Thank you. Um, these are going to be private ride rightways or public roads. >> The perimeters are public. The interior
private publicly accessible. Private meaning the CDD will maintain them. So, they're 50 foot, but they are designed at the same width 50 ft that all roads are. It's just that the CDD will maintain them. So, the taxpayer and homestead won't maintain those. The
perimeter ones are in the case of 296 is the county road. So in effect in simple terms, these are private roads. >> The the interior, not the exterior. >> Yes, the interior. Ungated private >> ungated private roads. Yes. >> Thank you.
>> Okay. >> Anything further from council? All right. So, first item we're going to have a motion and a vote on is the request for the resoning, which is tab 15.
So moved by Councilman Roth, second by Councilwoman Cannibal. Have a roll call vote on tab 15 for the reszoning. >> Councilwoman Abula, >> no. >> Councilwoman Ksky, >> no. Councilman Ross, >> yes. >> Councilman Fletcher, >> yes.
>> Councilman Cannibal, >> Vice Mayor Bailey, >> yes. >> Mayor Losner, >> yes. >> The motion carries. >> Okay. Now, and you're requesting a def 16, 17, and 18. the remaining three >> move to defer. >> All right. So, we have a motion by
Councilwoman Avala and I think a second from Ksky, Councilwoman Ksky, to defer items tab 16, 17, and 18, which I assume we'll have to have separate votes on. Is that correct, Mr. Attorney? >> You can do it.
>> All right. So, we're that's a global motion for tab 16, 17, and 18. the variance, the site plan and the T plat >> to to next month. >> Yes. To the date, >> which is >> May 20th.
>> May 20th. Okay. All right. >> So, roll call vote on the motion to defer. >> Councilwoman Ksky, >> yes. Councilman Cannaval, yes. >> Councilwoman Abula, Councilman Raw, >> yes. >> Councilman Fletcher,
>> yes. >> Vice Mayor Bailey, yes. >> Mayor Osma, yes. >> The motion carries. >> All right. Thank you, Hugo. >> We'll see you. We'll speak much sooner, but we'll see you next time. Thank you, >> Mr. Hello. >> Hugo.
>> One thing, when you come next time, >> just say we move the houses 15 ft and stop it there. You talk too much, man. or I lose or I lose your vote. You guys heard it. I can't get into a back and forth.
>> Thank you. Thank you. >> All right. >> Okay. Moving on to tab 19, car number 4980. This is a resolution of the city of Homestead, Florida granting final plat approval as requested by Castellanos at
Coral Way, Inc. for the development of an approximately 20,252t building. >> 12. We did it on the LPA, but we didn't do it here. The warehouse, the entity of title was to have 12. >> No, those are those are both legislative
items that we're going to take. >> Okay, we're going to finish the quasi judicial. I'm sorry. >> As you were saying, >> for the development of an approximately 20,252t building consisted of a medical center and two retail spaces on an approximately 1.04 04 acre parcel of
land located at 304 North Graham Avenue. Legally described in exhibit A Friday for an effective date. >> Thank you. Any questions or comments from council? Was a final plat. >> Did they move the dead palm tree in the front of the building?
>> They I I can report to that. They they remove that uh palm tree, the one that was dead, >> but they don't have a CO yet. They just have a TCO. So before getting the final, I put a hold on the CO and the condition is that they should replace that tree.
>> It's fine. Thank you. But because that looks horrible in there. >> Yes. >> All right. Very good. All right. If there are no further questions or comments from council, do we have a motion to approve the final platform?
Is it 304 North Chrome? 304 North Chrome. We have a motion to approve the final plat. Moved by Vice Mayor Bailey, second by Councilman Cannibal. A roll call, please, Madam Clerk. >> Councilwoman Avula, >> Councilwoman Ksky, >> yes. >> Councilman Ross.
>> Councilman Fletcher, >> yes. >> Councilman Cannibal, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Bailey, >> yes. >> Mayor Losner, >> yes. >> The motion carries. >> So now back to tab 12. >> Yes, Mayor. So tab 12 and 13 are going to be legislative matters. So we can take those. >> Okay.
>> Up now. So tab 12 car number 4951 is an ordinance of the city of Homestead Florida amending the city code of ordinances by amending chapter 25 subdivision and platting article one and general section 25-1 definitions and further creating article 16 uniting title covenant in l thereof providing
for severability inclusion of the code conflicts and providing for effective dates for treaty >> and we heard this at the LPA. Are there any further questions or comments? Council Fletcher approval. Moved by Councilman Fletcher. Second >> the warehouse. >> Second by me. >> Second by Councilman Cannibal. Want to
make your appearance. Marissa. >> Good evening. Marita Haro, office at 200 South Piscane Boulevard. Available for any questions. >> There are some. >> There are there's several contracts. This is one of the cleanup items to be able to close on those. Can you can you
share any insight as to what the community can expect in terms of businesses coming in? >> I don't have any of that. Um I will inquire as to that and I'll be back for a second reading. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> All right. We have a motion and a second
on tab 12. Let's have a roll call vote. >> Councilman Fletcher. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Ksky. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Abilo. Yes. >> Councilman Cannibal. >> Yes. >> Councilman Ross. Vice Mayor Bailey. >> Yes. >> Mayor Lawson. >> Yes. >> The motion carries.
>> And moving on to tab 13. >> Yes. Tab 13, car number 4949, is an ordinance of the city of Homestead, Florida, amending the city code of ordinances by amending chapter 29, vegetation article one, landscaping by establishing the minimum standards and landscaping regulations pursuant to the
city of Homestead landscape manual to supplement the Miami Day County landscaping standards and requirements. Establishing regulations related to landscaping and irrigation certification and reertification for properties developed as multif family residential, commercial and/or industrial and
providing for the enforcement of such certification and reertification and further amending article 2 tree preservation and protection by modifying regulations to clarify applicable permit fees and tree preservation trust fund contribution rates providing for severability inclusion in the code
complex and providing for an effective date. is for treating. >> Hey, thank you. Question council. Councilwoman, >> thank you. I appreciate this initiative to create uh a comprehensive plan for maintaining and and encouraging for our
um our developments and business community to keep up their landscaping minimum standards. Um, but I also think it's an opportunity for us to consider maybe between first reading and second reading for me to try to plug in some colorful sunflower initiatives within
our city buildings and with some of the landscape designs. And I know that they're seasonal and you know there could be potentially um some encouraged and and um influential verbiage to try to promote seasonal changes within the
development design standards. So if there's no objection to anyone on sunflowers and how beautiful they are, I would just like to have that encouragement. >> Go ahead, council. Pleasure. So again, they are a good-looking flower, but the problem with sunflowers is once you
plant one, they continue to blow throughout and they spread everywhere. Uh that's the only issue I have with them because once you plant them, they spread everywhere. But other than that, they're they're nice looking flowers and I like the idea. at my my concern would be is this this
booklet enacting this is with with respect to and correct me if I'm wrong respect to the installation of permanent landscaping. We could encourage that as we plant downtown when that's
rebuilt and in other places. But um sunflowers are seasonal and this >> correct you might be very right and I might bring it back in a different way but I'll just look into some options. >> Yeah I mean and I think there's an opportunity to do that but not in this
guide book >> maybe not maybe not here there's some proposals to create new districts. So maybe we can incorporate that when we incorporate the new districts and things that they're going to put there for public benefit and for use of the
public. Maybe we can incorporate that as a seasonal program. >> Thank you. I'll explore options. Thank you. >> You know, it's it's not a bad idea. I just don't know if it's properly included here in the permanent landscaping guide. Okay. So, Council
Fletcher, you've lived here a long time. Do you remember commercially grown sunflowers or were they just pretty much cover crops, >> isolated cover? >> Cover crops for the most part other than Robert is here. >> Yeah, it's just not not as a commercial crop but a
>> man. >> Dr. Fishman used to grow them 10, 20, 30 acres. I used to ensure them. >> Where's that? >> Dr. Fishman, he was a a local farmer. It was a hobby, but it was his son grew sunflowers for commercial cut flowers.
>> And I am I am aware of uh existing farmers, not in the city of Homestead, but local nearby that still grow sunflowers. Thank you. >> I'm just always concerned that we're going to perpetuate a fiction. You know, uh tomatoes were not a fiction. Mangoes
were not a fiction. Avocados are not a fiction. Vice Mayor B, >> I just wanted to ask real quick, this is the item that I was asking doesn't apply to the last discussion item we had, the LAR project. >> This would standards,
>> right? So that's what I meant is they would fall in line with this where the inspection would happen 12 months after. Okay, that's what I wanted clarity on. >> Okay. And I'm growing sunflowers in my kitchen. I'll send you pictures when they start blooming.
You have to put them on the floor. They're going to get so tall. >> I have a hydroponic uh power thing. Yes. >> Okay. Neat. >> All right. Did we vote on the landscape guide? >> No. Okay. Do we have a motion and a second on the landscape guide?
>> Moved by Councilwoman Avala, second by Councilman Cannibal. Let's have a roll call on the landscape guide. >> Councilman Ross. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Ksky. >> Yes. Councilman Cannibal, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Abula, >> yes. >> Councilman Fletcher,
>> Vice Mayor Bailey, >> Mayor Lawson, >> yes. >> Motion carries. >> And that takes us to tab 14. >> Yes. Tab 14, car number 4982 is an ordinance of the city of Homestead, Florida, amending the city code of ordinances by amending chapter 16, local
business taxes and business regulations, creating article 7, certificate of use, providing for definitions, application procedures, fees, regulation, denial, revocation and suspension of certificate of use, providing conflict severability and providing for an effective date. This is first reading.
>> Thank you, Madam Director. Yes, this is the certificate of use that we are making official a process that we already has have when a new application comes. We review first if they are approvable, if they are allowed in that
zoning district and then we check with the building department if the use is established or not and if it's not they need a change of use. So in this way before applying to the BTR the applicant will have to obtain the certificate of use and this after that it will be very
easy to go and pay for the business tax receipt and then it lasts forever if the business is the same is the same ownership. If they change they need to come and they need to ask for a new certificate of use but that will this will give clarity and the person that is
renting a a space or that is moving to a Once they have that business established, that certificate of use will clearly point to the what is allowed there. >> Okay. Thank you. Appreciate that. >> Well, let's Okay, go ahead. We'll get it
on the table. Moved by Councilman Cannibal, second by Councilman Roth. So, I'll open the floor to questions and comments on this item. >> Council Fletcher. >> Yes. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Uh although I think something like this is needed, I think we need to have a little more
detail as to what the overall impact's going to be. I would request that we defer this to a to a special call or a workshop to uh understand what the impacts could be because I think it's going to be quite significant to someone who may be a a small office and they
they decide to add an additional person to their office that could uh possibly affect costs. >> That that doesn't apply. For example, if you call a medical office and you have 15 doctors and then you're going to change and have 17, you just come, you add the doctors, but that doesn't change
the use of the business. It's just adding one more professional to to the business. >> Councilman, if I may, >> please. >> Thank you. And not to um um discredit the work that's been done by the development services department and staff in general, but I did have similar
concerns. And so I'll move to defer this item. Second it >> with the with the we need to have a workshop I think to discuss this. >> Yeah. you know, and and I I had asked a lot of these questions, some probably
some of the same questions you had on my my one-on-one, and I was I was prepared to talk about some of the questions and concerns and and amendments that I'd like to see just and I'll go ahead and put them out there for, you know, the future discussion was that I don't know that a change in ownership or business
name should trigger the requirement of a CU that take that off the table, but um with a caveat Because we see a lot a lot of these issues that if in the event of
a change of name or ownership, we might want to leave the opportunity open to bring signage in comp into compliance and landscaping into compliance. But beyond that, to to open up a property just by virtue of someone selling their
business or bringing in a partner and changing their name, I don't know that that would would merit uh having to go through the uh certificate of use uh process. Just those were some of the thoughts I had. Um you know that we can address it you know next reading or
workshop what whatever that may uh may be. You know it's an interesting balance between We can't allow buildings that clearly have violations to continue forever, but we want to be respectful of businesses who
are continuing. Um, it's going to be a real educational process though, I think, that we're going to have to to be very attuned to with respect to realtors and commercial landlords because they're the ones who are going to bear some of the brunt and we don't want folks
signing a lease and putting down real money and being obligated for real money and getting into a monthsl long process either. So, if we could schedule a uh a workshop post haste, that would be a uh a good thing. So, let's have a roll call
on the motion to defer. Yes, council. I'm sorry. >> Let me Yeah, because I had some concerns, too. >> Um, in reference that, but I think what this does is kind of speeds up the process so that they don't go to one department and get an approval, but go to the next department and they don't get an approval because of zoning or because of change of use. And uh there's
also some safety um things that kick in. As soon as there's a a change of ownership when you come for your uh your uh business license, you automatically trigger safety inspections.
>> So they have to come and they have to look at the electrical and the HVAC, you know, all the all the systems in the building which then trigger other things. they will trigger other things because as you said some of these buildings that are dilapitated or or that haven't been maintained over you
know 20 40 50 years whatever um they get caught up in all that stuff. So, um, and my other thing was, and you mentioned real estate agents and and commercial property owners, um, when I had my one-on- ones, the the the
biggest problem is the unsuspecting potential tenant, >> signs a lease, and then goes through the process. And I and I couldn't figure out and we talked about it a little bit in in in the oneonone is how do we change that where
it becomes the responsibility of a property owner or a professional real estate agent that needs to disclose that there may be these challenges in the future where a change of use may be
needed and that's not a one-mon process that's a six-month process >> at that. So there are a lot of things that we we can can speed up, but I think there's also things we can't change. And I think the workshop will be very enlightening to a lot of us that uh that
some of most of us that are familiar with it know it, but those that aren't will learn a great deal about this whole process. So I just want to put that on there so we can talk about those things in uh whatever we do next, workshop or special call, whatever it is. >> Yes, Councilwoman. And to Councilman
Roth's point, I mean, I have advocated for a long time for relationship building between the city of Homestead and our partners in the community, which include real estate professionals. And perhaps we should be hosting workshops, educational sessions in their arena, are
renting out the seminal theater and inviting, you know, realtors to come and listen. You know, what is it like to go through the CU process? I mean, the South Day Chamber of Commerce do does this on a regular basis, and we're not utilizing these tools to educate the
public to make our lives easier. And that's much simpler in my mind and will be received um you know, much better than a violation, an upset client, a lease gone wrong. And that just perpetuates more and more frustration and aggravation. And these are not new
ideas that we've talked about. It just needs action and it needs to be rolled out. Thank you. >> Right. Thank you. >> Same thing goes for transferring utilities and that process and the the time it takes to close an account, open a new account, then you have a a closing happy closing date and they're all moving in and there's no utilities and
they got to wait three days and then all the deposit. Oh, there was an outstanding bill till the seller gets that paid. I mean, this is the chaos that happens frequently and everyone blames the city of Homestead. This never happens with this never happens with Miami date county. But you know what are
we doing about it? So sorry broken record. Turning it off. >> So let's vote on the motion to defer. >> Councilwoman Aula. >> Yes. >> Councilman Ross. >> Councilwoman Ksky. >> Yes. >> Councilman Cannibal. >> Yes. >> Councilman Fletcher. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Bailey.
>> Yes. >> Mayor Losner. >> Yes. >> The motion carries. >> So that should take us to >> 20. >> 20. Tab 20 is the first reading of an ordinance of the city of Homestead, Florida, amending the budget for the general fund for the fiscal year
beginning October 1, 2025 and ending September 30th, 2026 by increasing the total budgeted revenues and expenditures by $50,000, providing for severability and an effective date. >> Right. This is just to move the the the match for a grant we approved months
ago. >> So, yeah, he moved it. I'm seconding it. >> All right. >> I would like more apple blossoms in district five. They'll die. >> Apple blossom trees will die. >> They're all over the Northwest. >> Am I talking about the right tree? >> So,
>> we might know by different names. >> Oh, maybe the orchid trees. Those are be some people call them apple blossoms. >> Give us the opportunity to check the application for the grants. Usually they will ask you to specify the tree species before. >> No, I'm just putting it on the record
that if there's an opportunity, please, please, please, more >> flowerbearing trees. Thank you. >> Your district's too affluent. Remember those grant applications we approved pretty much wipe you out because you're not as poor as the rest of >> No, District 5 in its entirety is within
the CDBG block. >> Let me remind you, please, >> mayor and council, let's put some context to this. This item is for a tree sensors. >> I understand for the grants for trees will consider your recommendation. >> Right. >> Yes. Thank you. I am taking the opportunity to vocalize.
>> Thank you. >> Not until I get my royal palms back on Chrome Avenue that I've been bitching about for four years. >> That the DOT killed when they widened Chrome Avenue. >> Yes, I said it.
>> That's a That was a Rotary project. Yes. Roll call on the tree census grant. >> Councilman Fletcher. >> Councilwoman Abula. >> Councilman Cannibal. >> Yes. >> Councilman Ra. >> Councilwoman Ksky. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Bailey. >> Yes.
>> Mayor Lawson. >> Yes. >> I'm telling the vice mayor is trying to vote for Ksky. >> Okay. 21 >> 21 is the first reading of an ordinance of the city of Homestead, Florida, amending the city code of ordinances by amending chapter 20 parks and recreation
to repeal and replace existing regulations related to fees levied for the use of park facilities, establishing new schedule of fees for the use of city facilities, providing for conflicts, providing for severability, and providing for an effective date. >> I move to reject.
Sorry, >> just for the sake of time, I don't agree in codifying the park fees and I think that this is something best kept in the department per purview and I don't see a reason why we should re remove the
ability for the park director to um bring to us for council consideration any changes throughout the year as needed. I'm not sure why we have to codify the park fees. Okay. Anyone else? All right. So, my thought on that would
be is we need to have consistency. Everyone needs to understand what their fee is and there can be no claims of favoritism or corruption or whatever you want to call it that no matter who you are, who you know, you walk in the door and and you pay the fee and they can be
amended by council from from time to time. We we've been finding for years that we do not have enough policy and procedure in place. Yes, Councilwoman Bailey, Vice Mayor Bailey, I'm sorry. >> I think um I think the main reason that
this is needed now more than ever is um the amount of times that fees were waved in the past. Um I know that I was a a big part of that. Um but to be able to advertise um nonprofits. Um, and just
the different the different parks and the differences. Um, some are higher, some are um in higher requ they're requested more. Um, FICO Williams is also just booked all the
time now. Um, so just to be able to have that a little clearer out there for the public for them to be able to make their plans. We're booking things months and months and months in advance. So just for that for that uh sake I think that it is um it is needed.
>> Thank you vice mayor. >> Anyone else? >> Is there an is there any changes to the the briefing that I received because there was no section for the wave considering the nonprofit. That'll So there is a a separate nonprofit price, but the the fee waiver
will still stand as one of us putting it under our item and all of council voting on splitting it or us using our discretionary funds, but it wouldn't just go into the black hole of of waving the fees where it just comes out of the park's budget.
>> Is that correct? >> Would you like to move this item? Okay. You didn't have a second anyway, I don't think. Okay. So, do we have a motion to adopt this item? Moved by Councilman Roth, seconded by Vice Mayor
Bailey. >> Roll call, please. Madam clerk. >> Councilwoman Appla. >> Yes. >> Councilman Fletcher. >> Yes. >> Councilman Roth. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Ksky. >> Yes. >> Councilman Cannibal. >> Yes. Vice Mayor Bailey. Yes.
>> Mayor Losner. >> Yes. >> The motion carries. >> Thank you. So that would take us to tab 202 >> two. >> Tab 22 is the first reading of an ordinance of the city of Homestead, Florida amending chapter 7, article 1, section 7.5 of the city code entitled
Special Master System Creative Qualifications Terms removal to revise the qualifications and compensation structure for special masters providing for inclusion in the code providing for severability providing for conflicts and providing for an effective date. Thank you sir. Yes vice mayor. >> I'll move it with a quick comment. If
any of you have never been to one of the special mast's meetings involving code. Okay. So these >> these volunteers work very hard and I know it's tough for the city. So I think this is a good a good move in the right direction. So
>> and these these fees haven't been adjusted for years. >> Second. Okay. It's been moved by vice mayor seconded by cannibal. >> I just I do have Yes. Thank you. I agree. We need to have the extra resource. I just Is there a way to or maybe I can get clarification. Is there
still an opportunity to leave the opport there still a way to leave the opportunity for a homestead resident to serve who wants to serve so that the position still is available? Because I believe that the reason why this is happening is because it's hard to fill. It's hard to get the volunteers to be able to do it. But if we
exclude them 100%, then you're just taking away their opportunity to serve the community in that capacity. Unless we really don't want any. >> No. Okay. All right. >> Councilwoman, I think the section 7-5
says, "Preference shall be given to residents of the city of Homestead >> with the qualification >> with the within the category. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you for the clarification. Mayor also an additional clarification on 7-5 C
and A read together. The appointment for special masters shall be met by the city council with recommendation from the administration. So we're going to make a tweak between first and second reading. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Good. Thank you. All right. So I believe we had a motion in a second on
>> this item. So let's have a roll call vote. >> Councilwoman Ksky. >> Yes. >> Council member Ra. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Abulu. Yes. Councilman Cannibal. >> Yes. >> Councilman Fletcher. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Bailey. >> Mayor Lawson. >> Yes. >> The motion carries.
>> Now for the really hard one. Tab 23. Better extend the meeting to 10. Tab 23 is a resolution of the city council of the city of Homestead, Florida, approving first amendment to the addendum increasing the scope of work for the procurement and installation of epoxy
flooring at Harrisfield Park by Gel Unlimited DBA Miracle Method of Miami North in the amount not to exceed $177,910 plus a city manner contingency allowance of up to 10% for the total project cost utilizing the interlocal purchasing
system here and after refer virtuous tips RCSP2410401 agreement exempting the purchase from competitive bidding pursuant to section 2-411.185 of the city code authorizing the city manager to execute all necessary documents providing for implementation
providing for an effective date. >> Thank you. Um if you could bring the samples back up I think councilwoman Aava needs to take another peek at them. >> Mr. Mayor, if I may. >> Which one is the top one you like? That's what I want to know. >> I'm not telling you.
>> Just circulate them down. >> Mr. Mayor, if I may. >> Yes. Uh, again, I don't want to get into the color picking if you I'm going to take number four. It's It's pretty close to what current is currently there. >> Yes. >> What's the name? What's the name on number four?
>> But here or there. Just remember this is a this is a temporary fix. 13. >> I know, but it's still temporary for if we reimagine Harrisfield in the next few years, the pavilion could be relocated possibly. So, this could be temporary in
nature. I'm good. So, I I I will defer to my colleagues, but >> can we meet in the middle? Oops. Sorry. >> Can we meet in the middle and add a little brown so it ties into all the wood? That is what I was bringing up
last time. There were no brown options. Get at it. >> Just a little brown will tie in with the wood. >> People try and walk up the walls. >> Whatever Vice Mayor Bailey wants, I will I will agree with. >> No. No. Don't put that pressure on me.
>> Yeah. Firebrick. Is that what that is? >> Do you like this one? >> I think it meets in the middle. It goes with the wood. >> And gray is too trendy and doesn't go with the wood. >> You're right. Comment from the vice mayor.
>> I'm good with that one. >> There's there's public for the photographer. Right. Okay. We we may have a cons is brickyard. >> That's fine. But I have a question though. >> Not about the color.
>> Be be it be it noted that Councilman Fletcher could care less. >> I just I just have a question. I'm sorry. Not about the color, but it says here 177,910 in the uh what what Matt read and it says here 137280. So
>> I think I like this. >> Is there a >> Is there a problem with that? I don't know. >> I believe that might have been a typo. Um the actual proposal is 124,800 and then the 10% uh contingency is
another 12,000. So it's 137. That's with contingency and everything. It's only going to be 124 >> in the 170 something. What is that? >> That looks like there must have been a typo when they a mistake when they type the >> it's going to be then 13. >> So 124,000.
>> Okay. >> Plus 10% of the 137. That's just in case. >> Mayor, if I may. >> Yes. I think we got the color picked up, but in terms of the proposal and the pricing, um did we did we go out to multiple vendors or how did we get to this um vendor?
>> So, at this at this time, this was done via piggybacking um agreement. This vendor did another job for us in the past and um had a very good warranty and the product has has, you know, stood the test of time there. >> Okay. because their their pricing is
saying $135 an hour to conduct and it's going to take $650 for them to finish and that's what they put in the in the pocket. So, >> it's roughly 11 $11.35 per square foot is what it came down to be. >> Okay. >> Just a clarification on the price. The
reason it was you jumped from the 120 to 1779 contingency 910. No, it's not the contingency. It's because this is an amendment to the existing agreement and the original the original contract price was $53,110 with an amendment of $124
um800. The 10% contingency does not go into the contract. That authorizes the manager to make further amendments up to that amount. That is how you got to the 177910. >> That's where >> because they did they had already done the Thank you for reminding me the
kitchen and the bathrooms. That was the original. Yeah. >> But but am I >> Pedro? Are you comfortable with that price? And and I don't think I I know you said they Yeah, they have a good warranty and they've done other work for us, but did we get any other proposals?
>> No, we didn't. >> For this particular project, we did not. Um, I did get a proposal for a smaller project that was $9,000 from them and we got a second vendor that was like $10,800. So on on smaller projects,
we've tested them against other vendors, >> but at this time for this one, we did not. >> And the warranty is li >> I wish we could get lifetime. Are you able to negotiate a longer maintenance package or like do we have anyone in house that can fix epoxy
flooring if there's a a peel after one year all the dancing and the boots and the that that pavilion gets used. So I mean we need to probably look at a maintenance plan. >> Oh, wasn't that the finish that was in the the original bathroom edition and that lasted several years?
>> Yeah. On on average >> that's new now, but that was the prior finish. >> Yeah. On average, you can get about eight to 10 8 to 10 years on on this kind of surfacing. It's similar to the court surfacing, you know, we put on the basketball courts and tennis courts. You get anywhere from around seven to 10
years. >> I trust you, Pedro. Thank you. >> I'm ready to move on. >> All right. Does anybody move this item? >> Moved by Cannibal. Second by Aval. >> I'm sorry. >> The color that uh the brown mix >> fire brick, I think. What was it? >> Fire brick. >> Brickyard.
>> Brickyard. It sounds like a great restaurant coming soon. >> Yeah. >> Well, speaking of restaurants, that's what they have in the floors at Sak Pass. >> That's right. >> Our new downtown gray sock has that. >> They have the same floor. >> That's the first thing we noticed when we went in. That's the That's the uh
finish we've been asked to do at Harrisfield. >> Okay. So, we have a motion and a second on tab 23. We'll have a roll call. Madam clerk, >> Councilman Campbell, >> yes. >> Councilman Fletcher, >> yes. Councilman Ross. >> Councilwoman Ksky,
>> yes. >> Councilwoman Abula, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Bailey, >> yes. >> Mayor Losner, >> yes. >> The motion car. >> Okay. So, Mr. Manager, for tabs 24 and 25, is there anything new or anything that needs to be said that was not said
at our last presentation? >> So, Mr. Mayor and Council, there are just minor change on the actual transportation master plan. The previous version had a date of April 2025.
So in order to reflect, we had a date of February 202 because we approving this today. We changed the date to April of 2026. And I think also there's a cross-section
that we had a range of 50 to 80 ft wide. We standardize it to make a uniform for everybody to be 80 ft. Those are the two minor changes. >> Mayor Fe. >> Yes. >> Thank you. Are the um two intersections in the Keysgate um district, the one off
of Kingman and North Gate Road and Kingman and uh I think it's Palm. >> No, no, those cross sections reference arterial roads. Those are not local roads. Those ones were trying to widen to four lanes. >> I'm referring to the um traffic light
signal improvements. So adding of the left turn signals and the the traffic the traffic uh reduction or speed reduction >> um >> is that is that your recent ask? >> Yes. >> I provided you with a response >> I didn't see the response yet but is it
in the plan in our transportation >> master transportation master plan? Yeah. >> Okay. Thank you. >> A couple of those locations are in construction already. >> Thank you. And for district five my district the traffic light at Waterstone Boulevard and 137th Avenue. Can you speak to that and the efforts please?
Uh I need to see >> in the master plan there's been some >> everything that we're doing now that we've submitted to the county are all extracted from the transportation master plan. >> Hey okay my recollection it was in there the
waterstone way. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So so we have a motion on >> we have a motion to second on tab 24. >> Moved by Avala. Second. >> Second by Cannibal for adoption of the master transportation master plan. Any
further? >> Nope. >> Roll call. Have >> a >> Councilman Cannibal? >> Yes. >> Councilman Roth? >> Yes. >> Councilman Fletcher? >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Ksky? >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Bailey? >> Yes. >> Mayor Osman? >> Yes. >> The motion carries.
>> And tab 25. Resolution of the city council of the city of Homestead, Florida, adopting the city of Homestead Water and Sewer Master Plan, providing that the water and sewer master plan shall serve as policy guide for future water and wastewater system planning, prioritization, coordination, and implementation efforts, providing for implementation, providing for an
effective date. >> Have a motion moved by Councilman Fletcher, second by Councilman Cannibal. There anything further? Seeing none, roll call vote. Madam clerk, >> Councilman Rob, >> yes. Councilwoman Abula. Councilman Fletcher. >> Yes. >> Councilman Calone.
>> Yes. >> Councilwoman Ksky. Yes. >> Vice Mayor Bailey. Yes. >> Mayor Lawson. Yes. >> The motion carries. >> Moving on to tab 26. >> 26 is a resolution of the city council of the city of Homestead, Florida, authorizing a city manager to accept the
grant award from the Florida Department of Management Services, executing grant agreement and any related documents, providing for implementation, providing for an effective date. It's been moved by councelor Ross, seconded by the vice mayor. There's nothing further. All in favor? I.
>> Any opposed? All right, that takes us to 27. >> Seven. >> 27 is a resolution of the city council of the city of home state of Florida approving the settlements of all claims made by Elizabeth Collier, providing for implementation, providing for an effective date. >> Moved by the vice mayor.
>> Second by Councilman Cannibal. Roll call. Madam clerk. Ross. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Abula. >> Yes. >> Councilman Fletcher. >> Yes. >> Councilwoman Ksky. >> Yes. >> Councilman Cannibal. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Bailey. >> Yes. >> Mayor Losner. >> Yes. >> The motion carries.
>> And that should take us to tab. >> 287. >> 28. >> 28. We're on 28. That was 27 was the settlement. We just >> settle. All right. So 28. And I apologize to anyone who's been here for this. I was supposed to move this to the front of the agenda. And it's manager's
fault. He forgot to remind me. Where's that bus? I'm going to throw you. Tab 28. The uh water and sewer upgrade. >> Tab 28 is a resolution of the mayor and city council of the city of Homestead, Florida, approving the award of
invitation to bid number 202614 for the Chrome and Flaggler Avenue water and sewer upgrade and transit accessibility improvements project to Lonzo Construction, Inc. in the amount of 26,782,3378. Authorizing the city manager to execute
an agreement and all related contract documents. Subject approval is to form legal sufficiency by the city attorney. Authorizing city manager to approve change orders or increases in the contract amount of up to 10% of the awarded amount as may be necessary to address unforeseen conditions or changes
required to meet project specifications. providing for imple implementation, providing for an effective date. >> Thank you, Mr. Manager. Are there folks here to do a presentation on this item? >> Uh, there's no presentation. Uh, you've seen this project several times. This is one of the signature projects in the
city's war and sewer master plan. This is the major critical infrastructure improvement that needs to be done. Uh, it will create redundancy citywide. It will enlarge and promote uh resiliency. We foresee up to 25 to 50 years of life
and capacity improvements where we have existing 12in pipes. We are upsizing to 24 and 36. Uh that gives us a lot of flexibility for new development coming up. Uh subsequent to this we are coming back with pump station 11 uh the
pipeline which is the forcemen that is going to be put out for bid I believe in the middle of next month for pump station 11 for the pipe the forcemen specific to this. We received five bids which is something that is very unusual and the prices range from 26 million to
about $38 million and the lowest responsive and responsible bidder was Lanzo Construction. Uh madame director of procurement is here to take any technical questions on the procurement process. The lowest bidder was 26. The
next bidder was 32. So there is a gap of $6 million. uh we are comfortable with the contractor that is being recommended. They have a ton of experience doing much much much bigger projects than this both for immediate county and for Broward
County and for War and Sewer. Uh we're actually surprised to see some of the biders because the county is currently soliciting for $2 billion worth of War and Sewer job that we thought were not going to get some credible contractors, but we did. All six of them were
credible contractors and uh I think the representatives are here. Uh we giving them a tight timeline to finish this job by I believe 495 days, a little more than a year. Uh we're going to hold their feet to fire. I've told a couple
of them that came to see me earlier that listen, the city expects nothing other than quality work. Uh, one of the initial promises is that they're going to establish a local office and they hope to hire local residents as part of the construction team. >> Very good.
>> Okay. >> Thank you, Mr. Manager. All right. Do we have a motion to approve Tab 28? Yes, Council. >> Just real quick, this is one of the biggest contracts that I think I've ever had to approve. Can you remind us how we're paying for it? >> So, I have the finance director here.
Um, I think there are about five funding sources for this project. It's not just one pro uh funding source. The CRA is funding a portion of the cost in the CRA area. You have the storm water utility fee for those that are drainage. You
have the public works impact fees. If the water and sewer utility system revenue note, which was the the money that we borrowed, and I believe there was a contribution from the state last time, the governor gave us $4
million last December. I think Mr. Finance covered it all. Give us a number. >> There are several funding sources and one of the things that's going to be the most complex is the schedule value when they invoice us is making sure that each
section is tied to each funding because some of these funding are specific to certain things in the project. Like one of the uh the grants is for sewer only. So that means that that money can only pay for that portion. the roadway grants can only pay for the roadway elements of
it. So, it's it's very tangly, but it's exciting. Like you said, it's one of the probably one of the biggest projects that we've contracts that we've approved. >> Got it. So, are we borrowing any money? >> Yes, we are. If you recall, in December,
you approved a $12 million loan. Part of the funding was for the water and sewer improvements on Chrome and Flaggler and also like the manager mentioned for pump station 11 as well. >> And so the the loan was collateralized based on future revenue. Is that right?
>> That's correct. >> The debt service was already built into the the budget. When you approved the uh the loan, we had already accounted for what the debt service was going to be. >> So in reality, it's not taxpayers aren't paying for this. This is grants. It's
it's user fees user fees and grants. Correct. >> Right. Great. Okay. That's all. Thank you. >> So I I think I neglected to mention the FTA components. We have some MTA FTA funds for the transit related improvements.
>> Council. >> And is this um from from breaking ground to potted plant beginning to end pro? This is this price encompasses everything. The timeline is what was bided on again like everything
construction that might be unforeseen conditions >> right but my question is is this pricing is this pro this award is for final product >> oh yes that's what it is again subject to unforeseen conditions >> from sewer to sunflowers >> I was >> from sewer to sunflowers
>> we know what they're going to get fed with >> I am not going to miss the opportunity to move this project >> okay >> I'm going to move it Okay. >> And sorry, I'll check in with a quick comment. We have a big job fair tomorrow in an effort to make sure that we get
enough or we get as many of our residents to be able to apply. Can we help coordinate something similar for them when they're ready? So, um, we tomorrow, we intend to start off with,
so we start off tomorrow with, uh, public outreach meetings with Pioneer Village and some businesses in downtown. Uh, so once the notice to proceed kicks off, the contractor will tell us what the schedule of values, the construction
timeline, and what their needs are. Then that's the moment that we ask them, "What are your job needs for our local residents?" >> Can we make sure that that's one of the items of discussion during these first community conversations for people who are interested to be able to track,
>> we'll do that. >> Okay. >> And that way the contractor wants to get an office in your area, your district. >> Councilman Fleser. >> Yes. Thank you. And I want to thank Councilman Roth for bringing that up. This is the largest contract that I've approved since I've been on this
council. And it's important to note that that uh the taxpayers aren't funding this in the long run. Um for the contractor, I just want you to be prepared that we are going to be standard bearsers for excellent work and
timely work. So it's uh very important to finish this efficiently and with minimal impacts. I know we're going to have a lot of community impacts. We just make sure we're going to educate everybody in time. That's all. Thank you. >> Yes, time frame is very important to
some of us. All right, so we have a motion and a second. So, let's have a roll call vote. >> Councilwoman Abilio, yes. >> Councilman Roth, >> Councilman Cannibal, >> yes. >> Councilman Fletcher, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Ksky, yes. >> Vice Mayor Bailey, yes. >> Mayor Lawson,
>> yes. >> The motion carried. >> All right. Before we go to tab 30, Councilman Fletcher, would you like to extend? >> We're motion to move the meeting to 10 o'clock. >> Yeah.
>> Yeah. >> All right. All in favor? >> Any opposed? >> All right. Go ahead. >> Yeah. I just want to take the procurement department on this item also. This is a very complicated item to to approve. So, Malia, thank you very much.
>> Thank you. All right, that takes us >> and also public works director Kyro Kangas. He did a pretty good job on this. >> Yes. >> All right. So, that takes us to tab >> 30.
>> 30. Sav 30 is the first reading of an ordinance of the city of Homestead, Florida, amending chapter 2, administration, article 8, contracts and purchasing of the code of ordinances of the city of Homestead to create division 3 processing of proposals creating
section 2-293 general provisions creating section 2-294. Qualifying public private partnership proposals creating section 2-295 unsolicited land proposals for city-owned real property establishing a procedure for the receipt screening evaluation negotiation of qualified
public private partnership proposals consistent with section 255065 Florida statutes establishing a separate procedure for the receipt screening evaluation negotiation of unsolicited proposals for the sale lease or ground lease redevelopment or other disposition of cityown real property interest
therein codifying application fees for each categor ategory proposal subject to other applicable governing laws other applicable law governing the disposition of property providing for codification severability conflicts and an effective date.
>> Thank you. All right. So I would imagine there are quite a few questions or comments on this. So I'll open up the floor to council on this item. Um I worked with our attorneys and and management to bring this forward as a reflection of we have nothing in place.
no guidelines whatsoever really for dealing with analyzing processing either unsolicited proposals or what's generally called a P3 uh proposal. So this kind of builds in
some guard rails. Everybody's again going back to that policy and procedure so that everyone is very clear as to uh what the burdens and uh and benefits are of uh both the city and a proposer for
bringing something uh forward. With that, I would be happy to hear any uh any comments or concerns on the on first reading, and there will be opportunity to uh to make changes between now and uh and second reading. Council Fletcher.
>> Yes. Thank you. And I think this is uh the right time and place to move this forward. Uh I'm not really sure if the the fees are quite enough, you know, based on uh previous inst if if you go back to the the offer on the old city
hall site, you know, one time we we spent $110,000 for consultant, you know, over a couple projects, but basically that's where it started plus staff time. So again, I don't know if these fees are actually
realistic in in ensuring we're we're covering those costs. Um I'm open to to my colleagues uh information, but it's just uh it's something that needs to be done and I
just think the fee structure should be a little higher. Certainly historically we could go back to that the city hall process the original shotgun process with Mr. Sweezy's entity and some of the original even minority builders and the original
uh triangle proposal. If if we could get those it could tell us whether we're in the ballpark of uh reasonable fees. So, if we could we could receive those between now and second reading and any
others you could think of. >> Yeah. And have we have we looked at other municipalities to ensure maybe this is in line with what they do? >> We did. Um and there, you know, $25,000 as as a flat fee just for the application. There's there's a process built in where if they you find your
actual costs are exceeding that you can go back and seek additional funds and they in a P3 context they have to submit within 30 days and you don't have to do any work if they don't submit the additional funds. You can drop it and not take on your your dollars. If you'd
like to look um at additional things, you know, you can have an application fee plus, you know, an additional escrow if that's something you're interested in seeing, which would be drawn down on and maybe a you akin to a cost recovery account to account for the actual costs.
The fee is your your money on a P in a P3 context. If you proceed, it's a fee. It's yours. um unless you choose not to pursue it at all in which case and by statute it goes back to them whereas an escrow amount
would just be drawn down on actual costs and you could determine that. So I I'm open there there's a array of options this is the simplest and if you know there's two separate fee structures that are broken out. One is
for the P3 which is not what you have traditionally seen which deals with a qualifying public project. What we have traditionally seen here is uh land proposals for either long-term leases or acquisitions and that's where the city has incurred its costs over the years
and in those types of deals and trying to contemplate what that looks like. We have a again there's a spectrum. You can have somebody who wants a single family lot or may we may want to do a an appraisal before we before we sell it, but that's not going
to be an exorbitant amount of money versus somebody who wants the old city hall site or, you know, mitigation property, whatever that may be. And so we did for the land acquisition a graduated scale to account for the the anticipated costs. And again, in that
section, there's also a reservation to go back to them and seek additional funds. But I'm happy to make any changes that you want and bring back any information you want for a second read. >> So I was going to say exactly that, but that's why I asked the question. Okay. Uh but here there again I don't I'm open
to my colleague suggestions, but I I just I'm not sure about the fee structure. >> Well, and that's I think the basic of the provisions in here are built in to go back and ask for more. >> Certainly were covered. >> Yes. But and if they refuse to do so,
then >> goodbye. Okay. And certainly there's there's time to massage this in each of your minds with with the attorney between now and and then and and uh you know tee up some some amendments, but at least uh get
moving from where we had nothing in place before. Vice Mayor, >> did you Oh, you're good. >> Just real quick. >> Yeah. Um, what it a workshop? I think based on what I'm hearing, what Matt just said, I got lost.
>> So, >> I'm sorry. >> I understand what Fletch what Councilman Fletcher is saying and then I understand what you're saying. There's contingencies built into it to protect us for additional fees. >> Yes. >> Um, but I still think we could work on this a little bit more.
Well, we could we adopt it and not have a second reading until after we have a workshop. >> Or we can have a workshop between in between >> between first and second. >> Certainly. >> That's fine. >> Right. >> Yes, Vice Mayor. >> And then I think what would make me understand things a little clearer as
well. Um what I was trying to think of is what are the last few deals or things the city was considering that this would have fallen in place with? not to say now but to talk about during the workshop is to give us some examples
of of how things would have looked with some last >> and at the workshop we can we come up with clearly obvious and then there's going to be some that >> wow where did that come from >> I okay so I I would ask that we you know pass it at first reading subject to a
workshop prior to second reading >> okay all right so moved with that condition by Councilman Fletcher second by Councilman Councilman Roth. Any further? Okay, let's have a roll call vote on that item. >> Councilwoman Ksky, >> Council Councilman Fletcher,
>> yes. >> Councilman Roth, >> yes. >> Councilman Cannibal, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Abula. >> Vice Mayor Bailey, >> yes. >> Mayor Losner, >> yes. >> The motion. >> Okay. >> Uh, tab 31. 31 >> is the second reading of an ordinance of
the city of Homestead, Florida, amending the city code of ordinances by amending chapter 30 zoning, article 4, supplemental district regulations, division 2, off streetet parking to modify regulations and standards related to the temporary parking of boats and further establishing regulations concerning parking within private rights
of way permitted within private residential developments, providing for severability, providing for inclusion in the code, providing for conflicts and providing for an effective date. >> Another workshop Thank you. Um, thank you, Matt. And, um, I I do believe that staff um, circulated
another letter of support to accompany this agenda item from a leader, a CDD board member in Waterstone community. Um, you know, this ordinance does not expand parking or boat storage. It just
clarifies who governs it and within a private community that authority should belong to the HOA that the residents already agreed to live and uh and to live under the rules. Uh the
the the fact that there are differences within association communities and nonassociation communities is not uh a foreign concept. Today we already live under different rules and regulations that other areas in the cities don't have to comply to.
And even within our zoning and with our uh our code, there are different guidelines that um that affect uh different developments. For example, in the TMU or in the PUD POD developments, there's different architectural uh
guidelines in the P pioneer district within our downtown. There's different uh distinguish uh this items that are distinguished. So, so it's not a foreign concept that depending on where you are in the city, different um different codes or different rules would apply.
Um, additionally, I want you all to consider that associations are a tool to work alongside with for the city. Uh, use the associations as a mean to echo the message. Um, you know, recently I started getting a lot of phone calls
about, oh my gosh, code enforcement's going doortodoor knocking on on doors to uh promote the messaging about recycling. We we need to promote better recycling efforts, but there's like a really strong boundary about soliciting inside gated communities. It's not
received well. So, use the associations to broad broaden your message and and uh send out they could send out newsletters. they can help you promote um the the importance of recycling, things like that. The same thing goes with parking and boat storage. These
rules and regulations that residents are already living to for various years, uh 20 20 30 years in our community, it's already been a proven concept that things are under control and there aren't any challenges. And um this
ordinance simply just surgically and precisely clarifies who is governing those and regulating those two specific items. There's been a lot of talk tonight about code revisions and um in in other meetings we talked about it
would cost $250,000 to do a code rewrite. We've been talking about it for many years and I still promote that we should fix our code comprehensively. But until then, we should look at the areas within our community that need to have
special attention. And I um respectfully ask for your your vote and support tonight and to trust that the associations are going to continue to do a great job with enforcing park and uh parking and boating storage within their
communities responsibly, which would ultimately allow for code enforcement to relieve themselves from the requirement of having to focus on those items and to do other more important work in our communities.
So, I'll rest with that. Thank you, >> council. >> Yes, vice mayor. >> Thank you, Mayor. I think it could go either way. You know, it will Well, one question for staff. Are there
any areas in the city where boats are able to be stored in front of the homes indefinitely? >> No. >> No acre lots? No, no, no. So,
is there also conversation about setting a standard across the board for all areas and the time frame allowed or you're saying to to let each HOA determine how long their residents are able to
>> Right. So ex current day the the the rules and regulations regarding parking and boat enforcement within HOAs, it already exists. So what I'm saying is to allow that standard be whatever that standard is. So the the actual verbiage and the code that's adjusting is just
clarifying that those two items would be governed by the HOA. It's not setting the time limit. It's not setting the storage um front or back. The reason is is that some properties have larger lots where you can store a recreational vehicle in the yard, but 90% are not and
the HOA rules typically don't allow it. So, there is no perpetual boat parking in front of a home that I'm aware of. Um, it's in the example that Councilman Fletcher gave in our last reading, um, is that in the Keysgate community, it allows for three days. Once those three
days are over, you got to have your boat off your property. That's one one example. association that example which people have merily lived under for many for 30 years now in the eastgate community is a direct violation of the current code and so while I do agree
that perhaps there for the benefit of the southwest and the northwest which I was speaking to some of the southwest residents earlier today and that's kind of the discussion is while we do move forward and make these precise changes in some districts or some areas let's
not forget and take an opportunity to maybe look at where else we have to provide relief whether it's a whether it is bark boat and uh boat storage maybe instead of two hours you allow 12 hours so that you can clean your boat you know but that would be again another a change
that we could always bring back on a on a larger area but for parking enforcement another example some communities the roads are larger so they allow you to park on the street in smaller roadway communities They
don't want you to park on the street because they don't want you to obstruct uh emergency vehicles and garbage vehicles. So, they promote you to park in your in your driveway. And addition to all of that, these roads, these
sidewalks, the the communities of these that falls under this ordinance are privately maintained. They're filling their own potholes. They're paving their own roadways. they're fixing their own sidewalks when the root systems are lifting up the the you know creating
that um uneven sidewalk. So in the perspective of the association it does come as a surprise that this is even um contrary in the code. So again it's just clarifying and making a correction that probably should have already existed when the pud was
created. So call it a housekeeping measure. It is um it's not a foreign concept that associations have different rules and regulations and this is something that the city doesn't have to burden themselves with identifying and curing.
>> I think besides the comment made at the last meeting that sometimes the garbage trucks couldn't get through. I think in the end that should have been set up from the beginning if that's the way things have been for the last 30 years there and it's working um at least most of the time relatively well leave it as
is. This this um this ordinance just clarifies that the responsibility of the city isn't to go in there and and find people if they're parking in their parking
spaces or if they're boat is out for more than two hours. And when without this code being changed, all the associations are basically operating in conflict to the code. So with that, I'll make a motion to approve my code
amendment. Thank you. >> Question, Mr. Mayor. >> Council Fletcher. >> Yes, thank you. So, right now this is very singular, you know, right to boats. It doesn't really address other vehicles, recreational vehicles, motor
homes, uh, which can also be an issue. Uh, and and most homeowners associations have restrictions on those being in in there for a period of time as well. Why are we just identifying boats? How many of these have actually occurred
where the cities actually went out and and gave citations? And I understand you're wanting to give the HOAs the And look, I I've seen the letters. I've talked to my residents as well, but what happens on
the fifth day or the sixth day? The HOA is doing they're doing their fines and whatever, but the boat's still there. the seventh day. You know, it there at some point the city's going to have to come in and and say something at some point. I would say, do other cities have anything similar to
this or are we creating something new? >> None of the cities in South Florida in Dade County that I pulled or in the county have anything. I'm not I'm not against being a trends setter and moving forward, but >> we compared like cities and either they
were silent on the topic, which would then refer you to the Miami Dade County code, or they had their own. The only city that stood out to be one of our neighbors that was more strict than ours um was um South Miami that required you
to register your vote with the city to ensure that the vote belonged on that property. Other than that, they are all mirrored the same as ours. >> So, that's a concern just basically that that we're going to be an outlier with
other cities in in South Florida. Uh Again, I will I will listen to what my colleagues have to say. Uh, I appreciate your comments and and understand, but this may require a little more work
uh to ensure that, you know, right now we're we're trying to unbburden city employees potentially, but at the same time they're driving down the road and they see something that's not safe, has been there for a while. You know, where where
do we draw the line? Do we just let the HOA handle it? And then we're looking differently at areas that don't have HOAs. So there's give and take here, I think, that we have to look at. Uh
I'll see what everyone else has to say. >> Oh, I'll just let me just throw my two cents in here. Um the two-hour citywide um code is I think
a little short and I don't know how many of our code officers are driving around on a Sunday afternoon looking for people who got their boats out in front of the yard more than two hours. So, I think some I don't know if somebody's mentioned it that maybe we look at this and and
change the code entirely because my thought was although I support the HOA's taking care of their their residents and their properties that it's more of selective enforcement on the city side where someone who lives
in the northwest section, the code enforcement's going to enforce a two-hour curfew on their boat and that same guy goes and visits the guy in Keysgate and he's got his boat out in his yard for two year or two days or three days. So,
I think the HOAs do a great job in in maintaining and protecting the values of their homes and their residents. And I think it's it needs more work than what is is is here because I just think the selective enforcement
could create an issue for us in the future. I don't know how you allow a part of the city to ignore whatever the code is and the other part of the city has to be enforced with that code. So I just don't understand that that
concept of it. So, um, but as I said, I think the HOAs have the ability to govern themselves a lot better than the city does when it comes to the enforcement of a 2-hour rule or 72-hour rule based on, you know,
the way some of those communities look versus how some other communities in the city looks as well. So, maybe I think vice mayor mentioned a workshop to And I hate keep adding up workshops and workshops, but if we're going to make,
you know, improvements to the city, I think it takes more than sitting here for an hour to debate a topic like this where um I just think that the selective enforcement part of it is a is a big problem. Um and once residents realize
on the northwest side that people on the east side parked their boats for three days and not got a citation and and I'm getting a citation. I feel bad for the representatives in that that area, you know. So, that's just my two cents for for this
topic. >> Thank you, Mary. >> Thank you, Councilman. So, in the runup to this, well, let me back up. At its core, this proposed ordinance
legalizes activity that is contrary to city code. And while it is true when one says that HOA rules are different from city codes, it is more truthful to say that they are
by and large and we all view them as more restrictive than city code. And I think that's what folks expect when they move into a gated community are those more restrictive rules. And however it
happened, it's come to our attention now that some HOAs have rules that violate city code. So, we're and and to to piggyback on Councilman Roth, and I think I touched on this at
first reading, this could be a real slippery slope that if I'm the guy in the Northwest that gets a ticket for having my boat out there in the driveway for the third hour, I'm going to say, "Hey, wait a minute. You allow these folks over on the other
side of town to park them out there for three days." and and that that's just a slippery slope that's going to open up a lot of of a lot of issues. I think I don't know what the history is of why we only allow two hours and and maybe we
need to to look at that. But what is being asked here is is not whether it's 2 hours, 12 hours, or 72 hours. This is asking us as a city through code enforcement to ignore those violations
in in gated communities and I I don't know that we have the discretion to do that. But you know at its heart this seems to be a solution in search of a problem. The statistics that code enforcement provided to each and every one of us is
that since January 1, 2024, only 10 boat citations have been written in I believe I don't know if it was citywide or gated communities. >> No, the requested information was for the some of the larger associations.
>> I don't want to name them, but they're in the memo with three of the largest community associations. What violations So 10 tickets if I may add that the first reading there was a different report that was circulated which was more citywide and association specific.
>> So are you referring to the second circulation or the first >> the second request? >> The second request was incorrectly provided but the first reporting that was circulated at first hearing >> that one showed approximately 160 violations.
mix between boats and parking citywide, >> right? That was all for a longer period of time. The second reporting was narrowed to three three of the larger associations for a shorter period of time. >> The second report was not intended to request specifically
for boat and parking. So that that information was not appropriate for this discussion. >> I don't I don't think that's accurate. It clearly says boat violations and parking on rideaway violations. that I recall and it's here in the background >> but it's not it's not for all the associations that would be affected by
this ordinance. the first report that you had requested on first hearing that one was inclusive of the associations and it was uh uh for boat and parking enforcement and on that report which Josh had circulated on the first hearing had approximately 160 which you can
share 160 violations compiled between the preppl and the and the current program for for violations and out of 160 30% of those um were association specific and out of
those um um associations district uh five for example was the was like over 50%. So, you know, hence why I'm the one bringing the item. I'm the one hearing the complaints and the issues. >> Right. >> So, >> 30% of 160 whatever.
>> It's not 10. That's for sure. It's not 10. >> Okay. But 30% of 160 is 48. Half of 48 is 24. >> Then uh >> in your district, >> that's still not an epidemic of problems.
You've got to stop thinking about your district would be my advice that we have to think citywide. What's good for the goose has got to be good for the gander. >> Oh, I respect that 100%, mayor. And for that reason, I contacted multiple residents that live outside of the city
gates and to get their fair and full um advice on this item and please do not paint the picture that I don't care about anything outside my district. Don't put that much in my mouth. Well, I do care about other districts aside from my own. And I did make a very strong effort to reach out and get feedback.
And what I was told was, Erica, code enforcement needs to be focused on trash and illegal dumping. And if if they're spending time knocking doortodoor and they're going in there and and u issuing violations for boats and parking when
the associations have their rules, why are they spending their time doing that? I I I beg the same question. You want to say it's only 10. >> That's not the case. >> So, mayor, may I offer a solution? Pardon? May I offer a solution?
>> Uh I think that we all need to do a little more deeper dive into this before we approve final. I would I would suggest we have another workshop and again we can put two or three of these together but and not only
look at the singular portion of boats but we have to look at the RVs and other things as well. >> Well and and I think it's a good opportunity to look at city code in terms of length and one thing that jumped out at me is there are some areas that allow two boats in a yard. I think
one's plenty. two invites monetizing your backyard. Go online and type in boat rental space in Homestead and you have hundreds of entries where people are advertising park your boat in my backyard for x00 a
month. >> Mayor, if I may to Councilman um Fletcher's uh question about why boats not RVs. Boats are typically able to be parked at a marina and you can bring it and you can use it, clean it up, take it back to your marina. RVs are not typically something that I I have not
heard one complaint about, oh, I got cited for my RV. If you either have space in your yard to park your RV or you're you're bringing it in, filling it up, and leaving. But for the most part, I have I have not heard one complaint about RVs. But if you wanted to expand
it to include RVs as part of the HOA um governance, I'm fine with that, too. I don't think the HOAs would have an issue. >> And again, I don't think the HOAs have a problem with RVs. It's the areas that don't have HOAs where RVs are located and people are living in them >> that they probably shouldn't be.
>> Doesn't affect them. >> But I think ultimately, you know, again, we've we've talked about this since I've been on council. Our code is very >> draconian. time to change that. But, you know, the I think we need to sit down and really
have a a discussion with with all the data, not with just dates here and there. We need to compile all the data and and put it in front of all of us. I want to say this does nothing but promotes the continued highlyization of
certain parts of our community. This is the theory of anything goes. And I you can have all the workshops you want. We have to have consistent rules across the board, whatever it it may be.
>> And I recommended at first reading that perhaps we do that as a secondary step, right, for consideration, using this as an example for open up the discussion, but you know, falling under the mayor's leadership, there's no room for expanding that. He called it culturalization, changing cultural.
>> You're the one that used cultural evolution. >> No, I didn't say evolution. What I said was if you want a more affluent community, affluent people vote. >> Affluent peoples don't trash up their neighborhood by parking their boats in the front yard. >> They put them in the back or leave them at the marina. >> I have a question though.
>> Point of order. >> I I have a question. In the exhibit three that I guess is is in the booklet here. Uh yeah, the same tab we're talking about. It it lists all the communities that are looks like all the gated
communities here. >> Who answered? >> Who answered? So, >> right. So, we went through the management companies for the respective um associations that we had listings and contact information for and we sent multiple email requests for information
and these are uh the responses that we received. >> Right. So, it looks like um most of Oasis Um, Waterstone did some communities, but in Waterstone, the ones that I see
for Waterstone, they don't allow any boat boat parking or any temporary parking in those communities. And um, in the Menescino area, states Menescino, Sonora, they didn't get any response.
So, we don't know what they allow. And in the fairways is the longest with Dun Woody and Augusta Greens at 72 hours and the others are 24 hours. Right? >> But if you look down this list,
most of those HOAs don't allow any parking in the front temporarily. And it'd be interesting what the bylaws for each of these other communities actually state because if we're only talking about basically
Keysgate that has these >> temporary parking allowances, >> it's only a portion, right, that the Keys the Keysgate responses had the 24hour for some and they went by
community lot size. So, some communities that have the smaller lots, even though they all have driveways, individual driveways, the smaller lots were not afforded um the parking, some not at all. Some
the 24-hour based on the lot size and then the more generous estate homes have the 72-hour. So, it's not everyone in Keysgate that falls in you. Keysgate runs their boat regulation parking by the size of the lot. Got it. So when you
look at Augusta Greens, for example, they have like zero lots. So they got a 72-hour parking limit there. >> That was the rationale by >> Dun Woody would be probably um the larger and the fairways would be
the larger lots that allow for 72 hours. So, I mean, at this point, we're only considering without the information coming in from these other associations. Keysgate. >> Well, well, no. Um, >> no, I can testify that
>> those were the ones that had the mult that that had the multi-, you know, the tiered amount of hours that were listed, >> right? But everybody else is a no. Other >> everybody else is a no. They don't have any temporary parking. >> So, it's not like code couldn't go into them today.
and two hours psych the boat, right? Because they're not they're not they're not enfor the HOA is going to be enforcing this as well because there is no temporary parking in there. >> So, >> right now there's no correct. >> Yeah, there is there is no temporary parking in there. And even if we pass
this ordinance, it doesn't affect them, right? Because they don't allow it for parking, >> right? As of right now, they don't allow it. But if if >> but they can't change their rules >> unless it's by resident vote. >> They can change their rules. >> This ordinance helps those whose rules
violate city code, >> which is two hours, >> which I think we need to look at the code itself to allow for a more lenient time. >> Um, and I think for Councilman Fletcher's
concern when it comes to the RVs, we already have >> we have we're pretty tight. We just did something a couple years ago. >> Yeah, we the RV were pretty tight. I think at one point they were going to report back to us the areas and the RVs and the addresses of those that got cited for having housing in those. I
don't think I've ever seen that report ever, but um and I'm sure there there have been some. Um so that that's really in there already. Fletcher, that was pretty strict, too, the the RV thing because I know there were a few in the villages that were people were living in them and those things are gone now. So, I'm sure the code got all over them and
took care of that. But I I I think we need to go and have a workshop. Let's get this thing ironed out so it's it's fair for everybody. Um and it's not selective in nature. >> I would support a 72-hour rule. Say it's citywide. I I was trying to be
respectful of, you know, other positions and, you know, be precise and and surgical on how we approach these, which is not unprecedented, but >> I can support 72 and one boat. Take away the ability for the second boat. >> That's in our code is to allow two boats in your backyard
>> depending upon the size of the lot >> or greater than half an acre. >> Yeah. >> Westberry Redland Reef was the woman who had her boat and she was ticketed for having both instead of only one. Yes. So that would be that would be that would be an item that we can also address.
>> I think that may have been location. I think you can have one of each, but they're supposed to be in the back. >> That's what she absolutely testified that that she had was both in the back. So I I I will defer this item until after we have a workshop and I appreciate everyone's commitment to to addressing this concern. If you don't
live in a gated community, then you're not re you're not living the problem because you might have a larger lot where you can park your boat behind your fence. Come with me and let's count RVs and boats that shouldn't be in my neighborhood. >> Yeah, I'm not discounting that.
>> But you don't have a second anyway. So, it's move to defer. >> I'm moving to defer. >> Mr. Mayor, also there's a resident who can't call in who wants to speak. Um >> Oh, did we do a public comment on this item? >> Well, I mean, we we asked for it. He's unable to talk. So, maybe we can get him
to speak at the workshop. >> Yeah. I'd like I'd like to hear I'd if there's someone who'd like to make a public comment either positive or negative on the item, I want I would like to hear it today, >> but I'm still okay with deferring. >> So, they're unable to to call in. I guess they're on the YouTube channel,
but is there a number I can have them call in? >> They could call you and you can put your phone up to the microphone. >> That's one way. The other way is to go into the city website and then in this uh calendar of events then there they
can click in the zoom link >> if they have zoom >> or haven't called. >> We can do a suggested by the mayor and I can give you a wireless mic and we can put them in >> I can put him right with this mic if he wants to call. Okay,
>> I'll call him. radio. >> Yeah. >> 12. >> You want to talk or you want to wait for the workshop? >> Oh, hang on. I'm putting on speaker. >> Go ahead.
>> Okay. Can everybody hear me? Mayor and council. >> Yes. >> Manager. >> Okay. Can you hear me? Okay. >> Yes. >> Okay. Okay. 104. So we did the letter.
>> Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. Hang on. >> Larry Mino. Larry Mino. >> Larry Mino. 2555. Done. Woody Place. >> Go ahead. >> So Keys Gate did send a letter in
support of this code amendment change. And in the letter, it outlines the reason why I hear an echo. Am I echoing to you? >> You're fine.
>> Okay. So, in the letter, it outlines the governance that Keysgate has followed for the 25, 30, 35 years of its existence.
Now, the fairways has a rule of 72 hours east lake. It could be 48. So, the point of this resolution is it hasn't been a problem in the past. Okay? But with the amendment, it would
allow us to continue to govern the same way we have for the last 30 years. You guys have admitted tonight that there hasn't been a problem in our communities.
You made reference to violations and they're non-existent. So if the system is working currently the way it's enforced for the HOA,
why would you be opposed as a council to this? Now if you want to improve citywide to extend the 2hour to 24hour whatever it may be, then that that's a
conversation for a different day. But we're not asking for special treatment. We're asking that you just continue to allow us to do what we've done for 30 years. And in all honesty,
it's kept things smooth to where you can focus on other areas that might need more attention. So, I'm kind of trying to understand the tugof-war amongst council back and forth
when the proven track record is there to show that we've governed at a high expectation and we follow all the rules. Not that code can't come in and do their thing. That's not what we're doing. And in the
letter, it outlines a great relationship that we've had I've spoken to Crystal several times when she started calling in reference to HOAs. Uh whether no matter what it is, I support the city
and everything they do, but at the end of the day, it it it's not we're playing favorites. It's that if you decide to come in and say, "Okay, we're going to enforce a 2hour rule." And then now
you're having a fight with our management company that is enforcing 72 or 48 hours. Now the homeowners not only mad at the HOA, they're mad at the city. So it it doesn't make any sense that we
would be against this for the HOA when it's already has a proven track record. So if you could explain to me why you would be against it, I would love to hear it. Larry, can you hear me? >> Hello.
>> Can you hear him? >> I can't. Go ahead. >> That's not going to work. >> Yeah, >> he's got to hang up. >> Yeah, this is going to work. >> Yeah. So Larry, if you're watching, it seems we're going to defer this item and go to
workshop. But for me, not living under the the benefit or the burden of an HOA. For me, it opens the door for more anything goes in the Northwest. This is not about
whether the system has worked behind the gate. We're now codifying that certain neighborhoods have different and less restrictive rules than the city code.
So then how can you tell an ungated community that you have a different parking rule than a gated community? This is this to me this is just not the way to go about it. I don't know what
neighborhood what resident came to the sponsor of this item and asked this to to go forward. Um you know it's just to me it opens the door. we go down that slippery slope of
um if you're not going to enforce your code on one side of town, don't come try to enforce it against me was is my concern. If you hear that,
>> but we're but we have a motion to defer. I think we need a second. >> Second. >> Okay, we have a motion to defer and a second. All in favor? >> I Any opposed? Okay. With the caveat, this needs to go to workshop as well and
and clarify the uh the information. Okay. So, does that take you to the non-smoking? Yes. No smoking in a park. Tap 32. Tab 32 is the second reading of an ordinance of the city council of the city of Homestead Florida amending the city of Homestead Code of Ordinances by
creating article 7 smokefree parks of chapter 20 parks and recreation to prohibit smoking and vaping in city parks subject to applicable state law limitations providing for related definitions prohibition signage and enforcement providing for codification providing for conflicts providing for severability and providing for an
effective date >> thank you it's been moved by vice mayor seconded by councilman I think this is one we can all agree upon agree upon and say why didn't we think of this before we didn't know this this loop this loophole existed
so councilwoman anything to add on your >> No I think that the uh comments that were made at the beginning of our meeting were very concise and this is obviously for the benefit of our youth and uh improving our parks. Thank you. >> Thank you. Thank you for bringing it. Okay. So, let's have a roll call vote on
tab 32. >> Councilman Ron, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Avula, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Ksky, >> yes. >> Councilman Fletcher, >> yes. >> Councilman Cannibal, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Bailey, >> yes. >> Mayor Losman, >> yes. >> The motion cap.
>> All right, let me get back to my agenda page to take you guys in the right order of who gets to uh >> What's that? Yes, Mr. Manager.
Just a quick reminder that tomorrow we have the job fair at Fico Williams and also tomorrow we have the community meeting at the the CRA building for Pioneer Village with respect to the
water and sewer project and to remind council that on April 30th we have a field trip to the wastewater treatment plants so that folks can get familiar with the processes and the fact that the city of Homestead has stayed with the same facility for years even though
population had more than doubled. So it's time for us to realize that it's time to upgrade our systems and the facilities. Uh I think the rest I'm going to convey to council through memo to mayor and councel as well. >> Okay. Thank you Mr. Attorney.
>> I don't have anything but I just wanted to call your attention to this that we had the other resolution that I don't believe we heard yet. It was an added agenda at the beginning. Okay. Yeah, if we get that far tonight, I'll do it under my business. >> Okay. I just didn't want to lose the thread. Yes.
>> Councilwoman Ksky. >> Couple things. I don't know um how many of you have been to the popup DMV at Dickinson, but what a pleasure that was. No appointment. I was in and out in 20 minutes. So, um, my tip my hat to, um,
the tax collector, Fernandez. Um, I also want to remind us remind everybody about the National Day of Prayer here in the chambers at 10:00 a.m. and it's May 7th. Thank you. One more thing, I was at the League of Cities
last last week and we were all um invited to attend Memorial Day weekend at the it's the 2026 uh Hyundai Air and Sea Show um at South Beach. So that's they they're they've dubbed it the
greatest show above the earth. That's May 23rd and 24th. and um quite an array there of demonstration of all the military. So, and they're expecting quite a turnout. And there is
also a Patriot display village uh and a Saturday night firework and drone show. So, thank you. >> Hey, thank you, Councilman Roth. Council Cannibal, you good? You're good.
Okay. Councilwoman Avala. >> Thank you, Mayor. Um, I wanted to um give uh props to our parks department for your Arbor Day coming up. Um, thanks for clarifying that we're not planting or no, we're not buying trees. We're going to be planting some trees. I look forward to that. And um, I want to
recognize all of the community programs that are um, recognizing month of the military child and our autistic families. We see you and um, we support you. And I wanted to get an update about our faith-based advisory board advisory
board. I had requested for that. >> I have I have a draft to share with you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Which is that? >> Our faith-based advisory board. Yes. And then um there is the Farm Bureau barbecue coming up on Saturday. Please go out and promote uh um that is going
to be at the Deari um distribution packing house. And um there is a program called uh NIFTY NFTT. It is a program that provides um summer entrepreneurship
um curriculum and it has traditionally been held at Miami Dade College. They need a new location. They're not going to be able to host it this summer. It's a program of 40 years and um they meet
June 15th through July 24th. And so I'm seeking help from staff to um try to identify a location. So if there's any recommendations on where they can meet during that time period, but they also need access to computers, which is one of the resources that the college was providing for them. So
any ideas? >> All right. And um I think that's it. Thank you. >> Okay. Um Councilman Fletcher, >> thank you. And again, thank you for the reminder for the Farm Bureau barbecue
this Saturday. Uh just quickly um the way I'm not a a social media guy, but I have been taking a look at at some of the things that we've been doing internally uh with with with Nolan uh and the police department and some of
the things that we post at the city. But I think we can do much better. Um, if you look at the activation of what's going on with the F1 race in Miami and the the golf tournament that are both next weekend, but the way they're going
about social media and promoting it is unbelievable and the followings that they're getting and I think we could learn a big lesson from that, you know, both internally and plus our partners as well. So, uh, the way they activate different parts of the community is, uh, quite interesting. Uh, so something to
take a look at. I'll be more than happy to share my thoughts individually with whoever wants to talk about it, but it's it's it's pretty awesome what they're doing and it just it's just showcasing Miami in general. We want to showcase Homestead. With that, that's it. Thank you. >> Thank you, sir. Vice Mayor. >> Hey, a couple quick things, please. Um,
at the MLK breakfast, there was a group from Everglades Prep that danced called Golden and Exquisite. Um, the CRB had sponsored a small amount for them to go um to do
the state. They won state right after the MLK breakfast and this last weekend they just won nationals. So, one of our local dance teams, CRB is very proud that one of the first groups that they um helped sponsor. So,
Everglades Prep, congratulations to them. Golden and Exquisite dance team. And speaking of amazing little humans, today is Earth Day. I want to give a big shout out to pack 69 and troop 78 that have been out at some of our local parks
tonight cleaning up in lie of their weekly meeting. I know they were at Lner Park just recently. So, thank you especially to the leaders. Speaking of volunteers that are hard to find, Pack 60, PAC 69, Troop 78 has some of the
most amazing leaders. Thank you guys for all your help, your hard work, and for helping the earth have better humans to inhabit it um through all your guidance and and everything that you do for our youth. And lastly, congratulations to
Candela who is Troop 78's newest Eagle Scout. >> Very good. >> So, thank you ma'am. That is all. >> Okay. Thank you. >> One more one more thing. I think you all have before you resolution 2026 0453
that was distributed. It loose. It wasn't in the book. This is regarding um potential solution. Our request to the mayor to uh to go back to the way it was prior to BRT until they figure it
out. I'm going to take this take this to the TPO tomorrow for action. I appreciate your support on that. >> I mean, >> yeah, they Yeah, we've just got to to keep pushing. They respond to bad press.
So, do we have a motion? >> It's been moved and seconded. >> Uh, roll call on this resolution. >> Councilwoman Avula, >> yes. Councilman Roth, >> Councilman Fletcher, >> yes. >> Councilwoman Ksky, >> yes. >> Councilman Cannibal, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Bailey,
>> yes. >> Mayor Lawson, >> yes. The motion carries. >> Couple other quick things. Just an observation that maybe we should do some of these workshops immediately following the day of prayer here. >> Yeah. Um, thank to all my colle Thank you to all
my colleagues who uh helped contribute to fund the trip of the robotics club from South Date High School who will be traveling this weekend to a very prestigious competition. I think Jasmine, our assistant, told us that she has a link that you can go on and watch
them compete and see see what their robots and and so forth are >> are doing. and I've invited them to come do a presentation at our May meeting. So, we're going to we'll bring the robot, recognize these kids, and uh you know,
before school gets out and come back and >> maybe maybe um that's it. I had another item. I will uh defer that until next month. We can get a more formal presentation together. So, with that, do I have a motion to
adjurnn? >> Moved and second. All in favor? >> Opposed. Thank you all. Good night.