Heat. Heat. Good evening. Welcome to the Township of How Planning Board meeting for Thursday, May 21st, 2026. Opening statement, please. I hereby declare this meeting of the How Town Township Planning Board to be open adequate notice having been given pursuant to the New Jersey Open
Public Meeting Act in the following manner. First, on January 8th, 2026, a copy of said notice was emailed to the Asbury Park Press and the Star Ledger. Second, on January 8th, 2026, a copy of said notice was handd delivered to the clerk of the Township of Howell. Third,
on January 8th, 2026, said notice was posted in the office of the planning board and on the bulletin board in the Howell Township Municipal Building, 4567 Route 9, Howell Township, New Jersey. In accordance with the fire prevention code and for your safety, please be advised that this facility is designed with two
emergency exits at the front and rear of the meeting room. Furthermore, smoking is not permitted in the municipal building. Please take note that this meeting is being videotaped for possible future broadcast on Howell Township TV77. Thank you. >> Thank you. Roll call, please.
>> Mr. Bato is excused. Mr. Freriedman >> here. >> Mr. Gimble, >> here. >> Mr. Greenfield is excused. Mr. Carbonic, >> here. >> Mr. McNicholas >> here. >> Mr. Mercer is excused. Councilman Rebell
is absent. Mr. Wetco >> here. Miss Core here. >> Chairman Huzzer >> here. You have a >> quum. Thank you. At this time, would everybody please rise for the pledge of allegiance followed by a moment of silence for our men and women who have served both here and abroad.
>> Aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Are there any minutes for approval? >> No, there are not.
>> I know we have some correspondence this evening. >> Um, yes, there was a letter from Thomas Hirs, the attorney for case SP1140C Free Plaza, which is on tonight's agenda. He's asking for a 60-day adjournment to complete plan revisions. Uh he asked that the application be carried to August 6th, 2026 with no
further notice and has granted a time extension through August 6, 2026. >> Andy, would you mind making that announcement? >> Yes, Mr. Chairman. >> Yes, Mr. Chairman. Case number SP 1140 C
Free C Free Plaza LLC. Uh this is a preliminary and final major site plan with ancillary variance and designer waiver relief. Uh this matter is being carried to August 6, 2026
without further notice. If anyone is here tonight for that application, please come on that date >> and the extension of time through that date is okay. >> Yes. Yeah, >> we have an extension through the date of the hearing.
>> Okay. Anything else, Lisa? >> Uh, no. That's >> okay. Uh, any resolutions this evening? >> Resolutions? No. >> Okay. Um, two submission waiverss. We have one this evening. It's for case
number SP1148, Ravenvolt Incorporated. It's for a minor site plan with bulk variances. Good evening. >> Good evening, members of the board. Uh my name is Lisa Lley and I'm here on the applicant Raven um in connection with
the waiver hearing from Robert. >> Great. Thank you. Uh typically we just turn it over to Laura um who will be sworn in and she'll kind of run down everything for us. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Do >> you swear the testimony you give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?
>> I do. Um so Mr. Chairman, members of the board, we had issued an April 30th, 2026 review letter. The submission waiverss are specifically outlined in item three. And I know it appears that there's a ton, but the scope of this application is to install a generator, two diesel generators, and it has to do with
utilities. So given the nature of the application, I take no exception to the granting of the waiverss for the purposes of deeming the application complete. I've had the opportunity to speak to councel. There are some cleanup items that she will be providing on a subsequent submission, but again, given
the nature of this, I take no exception to deeming the application complete. >> Excellent. Any questions from the board? Seeing none, I will entertain a motion. >> I'll move that we grant the waiverss. >> Mr. Freriedman, do I have a second? >> I'll second that.
>> Mr. McNicholas. Roll call, please. >> Mr. Freriedman? >> Yes. >> Mr. Gimble? >> Yes. >> Mr. Carbonic? >> Yes. >> Mr. McNicholas? >> Yes. >> Mr. Wco? >> Yes. >> Miss Core? >> Yes.
>> Chairman Husser? >> Yes. Motion carries. >> Thank you. >> Have a good evening. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Good evening. >> Okay, two applications for this evening. Uh first is case number SD3025,
Judah Burkowitz. This is a preliminary and final major site plan with ancillary variance and design waiver relief. >> Good evening, Mr. Chairman, members of the board, Kenneth Pap, on behalf of the applicant. Mr. Chair, I believe that the the what was read into the record may
not be wholly accurate. This is a minor subdivision application with one bulk variance as a pre-existing condition. Is is it printed wrong in the
>> uh Judas minus sub? >> So, it's a typo. >> Okay. >> Okay. Sorry, Kim. >> No, that's fine. >> Before we begin, Mr. Chair, this application was presented to the board earlier this year. The board heard it in
its entirety and voted on it only to discover that the notices were incomplete and therefore it was the it was void. So, I would ask before we begin our substantive presentation if council could confirm receipt of notices for this evening. >> Yes, Mr. P. The board has jurisdiction.
Thank you so much. Then and Mr. Chair and board members, in an effort to be efficient, but also to make a record, I was going to do a little bit more in my opening remark describing it because I know that it's going to be deja vu for the board members. Then we swear in Miss
Bullock and have her put certain facts that must be on the record. And then I have with the assistance of Miss Bullock I have the conditions that this board ex asked of the applicant the last time and we'll place them before you. And hopefully that would make this a very efficient presentation. >> Excellent.
>> If that's acceptable, Mr. Chair, this is a two lot minor subdivision. The property that is being subdivided is sufficient in size to create two lots without variance relief. There is a pre-existing residence on one of the properties. That residence is 18.2 feet
from the sideyard. That's a boatarian that's not going to be removed. There is a septic system on the property that will be removed and it's proposed that the h the property will be developed with two brand new septic systems and no new bulk variance relief. I would ask if
we could have Miss Bullock swarm. We'll place our credentials on the record, put some of the basic facts, and go through the conditions that were previously requested. Do you swear the testimony you give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> I do. >> State your name for the record. Spell your last.
>> Donna Bullock. B U L L O C K. >> Miss Bullock, would you share your professional and educational background with the board? >> Yes. Uh I am a graduate of New Jersey Institute of Technology. Um I've been I am a project manager at Morgan
Engineering located on Central Avenue in Island Heights. I have been presenting applications through uh many boards, planning boards, zoning boards through mostly Mammoth Ocean and Middle Sex counties for 26 years now. Uh and I have
been in the uh civil engineering industry for uh for 38 years. >> We will accept your credentials. Thank you, Donna. >> Thank you. >> Miss Bullock, would you confirm that your license in the state of New Jersey is in good standing? This state? >> Yes, it is in good standing. >> Just going to ask you a couple of basic
facts. So, we're talking about property that's commonly known as 47 Pinewood Road. It is commonly known as block 65.04, lot 170.04. It's in the R2 zone district and it is 918 acres in size. Are those accurate facts?
>> Yes, that that's correct. >> And we're proposing to subdivide the property to create two conforming lots preserving a single boat variance of 18.2 ft for an existing sideyard uh for the existing residents. >> Right. Um the uh sideyard setback is
actually to a deck not to the residence. The actual building itself is within the setbacks. The uh variance that we require is is for uh a deck off of the back. So it's it's it's a deck. >> It's my understanding that when this
application was presented to the board earlier this year that the board had certain requests that were made. I want to ask if you could confirm that your plan will carry those requests forward. First was a note that all of the any and
all existing code violations would be the responsibility of the property owner as a condition of perfecting the subdivision approval. Is that accurate? >> That is accurate. >> And that there's a septic an existing septic system that straddles the property line. It has to be removed in its entirety. Not an abandonment but
complete removal. >> That's correct. And there's two new septic systems that are propo proposed and that the soil work for those two new septic systems has been um completed and demonstrates that they can be built as we're shown. >> That's correct. We have soil logs that
were conducted just this week and they were prepared by um RC Butterick and they did two logs on each property and um based on the analysis of the soil logs there's no season high water table
so there'll be no issue with the uh elevation of the basin uh with the with the with the uh septic systems and the soils are uh are uh have a permeability rate K4, K5, which is very good for >> Okay, I'm just going to stop you going
down this rabbit hole. We don't approve a septic system. It's under the jurisdiction of Mammoth County Board of Health. All we want to make sure is you did the borings. >> Thank you. >> Yes, they they >> enough. Thank you. So, there's also a dedication that was requested by the the
township. I know that initially you showed that as a right-of-way dedication and that in the dialogue with the board it was suggested that it be an easement so that the size of the lots is preserved. Does your plan now show it as an easement? >> Yes, it does. >> Other than what we've just gone through,
are there any technical requirements that are remain outstanding from prior review letters from the prof board's professionals? >> No. >> Mr. chair and board members, this is a tula minor that you heard in its entirety. The conditions that were
placed, there was one other condition. There are certain improvements on the property, a patio, gazebo, and things like the applicant has agreed that all of those improvements will be removed from the property as a prerequisite to the perfecting of the subdivision. So with the understanding that there is a
right-of-way dedication by easement, an agreement to remove the existing septic system, an agreement to construct two septic systems to be approved by the health health department, an agreement to rem to remove any and all code violations prior to perfecting, and a final agreement to remove all of the
existing structures that are on the new lot as a condition of prerequisite. We would ask that the board consider the minor subdivision, this time with proper notice, favorably. Thank you, Ken. >> Thank you. >> I would like to mention though that um
we are asking uh we will have two septic designs. >> Donna, Donna, stop. >> We don't get into septic design. >> Well, no, we're not going to do septic for >> resolution of compliance. Build it before resolution of compliance. >> The septic systems will be witnessed and
approved by the board of health. >> Yep. as we do in every lot here that goes for a septic system. >> Understood. Uh any questions from the board members? I just had a quick question. So the pool you're taking the pool out too, right? It says in the >> Yes.
>> Um is this uh is all that stuff have to be removed before the new >> before the filing of the map? >> Before it's filing. >> That is correct. >> That was the agreement placed before you back in February and we're bringing it forward. >> Okay.
Any other questions? Seeing none, at this time, I'll open it up to the public. Does public have any questions or comments? Seeing none, I'll close the public portion. >> Mr. Chair, we'd ask the board to consider favorably the minor subdivision
with those conditions that we've placed before you. >> Thank you, Ken. Donna, thank you. Um, at this time, gentlemen and miss, I will entertain a motion. >> I'll make a motion to approve. >> Mr. Got Mr. Carbonic with the motion to
approve with the conditions stated on the record and Mr. Wetco with the second. >> Roll call, please. >> Mr. Freriedman, >> yes. >> Mr. Gimble, >> yes. >> Mr. Carbonic, >> yes. >> Mr. McNicholas,
>> yes. >> Mr. Wco, >> yes. >> Miss Core, >> yes. >> Chairman Huzzer, >> yes. >> Motion carries. Application is approved. >> Thank you all. >> Thank you, Ken. Thank you, Donna. have a good Memorial Day weekend. >> Thank you.
>> Uh and our final application this evening, case number SD30241120 Farmingdale Road LLC. This is for hopefully a preliminary and final major subdivision with ancillary variance relief.
Good evening. >> Good evening, chairman, board members. Mark Aikens, attorney on behalf of the applicant, 1120 Farmingdale Road, LLC. Uh before I offer a few introductory remarks, I'd ask that uh the board's council please confirm that my service by publication and certified mail is in
order and the board may retain jurisdiction in this matter. Please >> board is jurisdiction, Mr. >> Thank you, Mr. Chair. Um by way of brief history, ladies and gentlemen, um this property presently contains a single family residence and consists of over 70,000 square feet.
This lot that we're considering this evening for now a two lot subdivision uh was actually created out of the Pine Meadows major subdivision which was one that was created pursuant to case number 278-15 filed on October 12th in 20 in the year
2000 with the Mammoth County Clerk's Office. The proposal this evening is to create two conforming lots. So this is essentially a minor subdivision. Lot 1.01 1 is to be slightly more than 27,000 square ft and will contain the existing renovated single family
residence. Has a beautiful treeline stone driveway which is proposed to be retained and not paved. Proposed lot 1.02 is to be slightly more than 43,000 square ft and will contain a new residence which has not yet been designed but will be obviously substantially different from the
existing residence and will have a paved driveway. The rear of the property has a 15 foot wide drainage easement and no accessory structures are proposing connection with either lot. Uh to my right is William Maruna. He is a licensed professional engineer and a
licensed professional planner. Um Mr. Bear, if you could please swear him in, then I will uh produce his credentials for the board's consideration. >> Do you swear the testimony you give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> I do. >> State your name for the record and spell your last, please.
>> William Maranka. M E R U N K A >> Uh, good evening, M. Morocco. Do you possess any licenses from the state of New Jersey? >> Yes, I'm a licensed engineer in New Jersey since 2018. Licensed planner 2022. >> Have you been recognized as an expert in those capacities by planning and boards?
>> Uh throughout many boards in Minan Ocean County. This is my first time in front of this board. >> Yeah, we'll accept your credentials. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Mr. I'm wondering if you could take a moment orient the board to the applicant's property, existing conditions, and talk about what's proposed. >> Yeah, so the property is in the R3 zone
at the corner of Arowwood Court and Fort Plains Roads. As Mark said earlier, it was part of a previous subdivision for the neighborhood behind it. This was the the main the original owner lot. So when they created the other one, he saved it for himself and then the rest he sold
off and built all the smaller house or we believe around 7,500 square foot lots behind us. Um right now there's an existing two-story dwelling on the property that that dwelling has been renovated and um brought up to code
right now. The plan is for that dwelling to stay as is. And then we're proposing a new dwelling on proposed lot 102. As Mark said, right now there's no plans for that lot yet. Um they're waiting for the subj before they spent the money in
architectural to get a lot. It will be different than the adjacent house and all the um housing and development behind it to meet the town's requirements on that aspect. There was um on the existing condition sheet of the site plan submission, there was a shed on the property which has been
taken down. There was also a electric pole in the middle of the lot where electric lines that were crossing over the proposed property line. Those have been removed and the electric is underground. All the utilities are public. There's no septic on the site.
Um public water, sealer, gas for for the existing lot and they'll be proposed for the new lot. Um Mark said there is a tree there is a treeine driveway. Um those trees are staying in the driveway. We're proposing remain in the existing location. The
original driveway did wrap around the house to the original shed, but that has been cut off so that it stops at the back of the the house. >> And the distance of that driveway is approximately 120 125 ft or so. >> Correct. Yes. >> Okay.
>> It's public water over there. >> Yes, they're they're connected on the public water. >> So, it's coming off of Amwood Court. What's the well in the proposed lot 102? >> It's our understanding that that was uh previously abandoned. >> Gotcha. >> On there.
>> Okay. >> And we stipulate chairman as to any condition confirming that. >> Gotcha. Thank you. >> It's not intended to be to be utilized. And then on so we we showed with the town's buffer requirements, we did show the 50 foot buffer on the north and west
side of the property um align with the other adjacent dwellings. >> Is there an issue, Mr. Mora, with regard to uh what was formerly the bill code door? Now, could you clarify that for the board's benefit as well? >> Yes. So, the there that did actually the
um already they did change that out to walk out stairs in the same location. It did come a little bit further. So, um we will be adjusting the proposed subdivision line slightly just so that we do clear that um those stairs. Well, we're going to verify where it is and
then we can do um if the board wants we can keep that property line 5T off the end of the stairs over there. But it'll still we're still going to maintain the same one acre new lot. We'll just bend that part out at the stairs and then it'll bend back in. >> So again, that's a new condition that
was created subsequent to the survey after the bill code door was removed and a entry if you will from the uh basement or exit from the basement was provided by the applicant. >> So the lot lines that we're looking at are not exactly going to be the lot lines that you're asking asking the
board to approve. >> Yeah. So that uh we're looking at modifying just that pre that one. So coming right next to the left of where we show for folk subdivision line that's going to move down to the south slightly just so that the the existing stairs on
the dwelling are all within that lot. >> I I don't understand what you're saying. Here's this is the stairs. Correct. >> Yeah. So it it extends a little bit further south than what was shown on the original survey. So, you're going to shift when you shift the subdivision line, is it going to change the lot
acreage? >> Yes, >> we're going to maintain one acre on that the lot 1.02. >> So, we're going to adjust the line, but we're going to keep we're going to maintain one. So, that's going to shift down, but then we'll shift over the ones to the the west of the house, move that
to the north a little bit, so we still maintain the same lot acreage for the two lots. >> Is that going to make it come like across that existing line? The walkout stairs that you said that were created, is it actually over that proposed
subdivision? >> Yeah, right. Now, as it was installed, correct? Yeah. So, originally, >> how far over that line? >> I believe it was coming about 2 ft. >> So, originally we were also we were going for a three lot subdivision on the plan and then it was changed prior to
last month's meeting so that we could put the 50ft buffer on the two sides. So by doing that that changed the configuration of that um proposed lot 1.01. So originally it would have been fine on 1.01 but when we went put the 50 foot
buffer in we had to adjust the lot lines so that we could get buildable envelopes on the two lots. So that's why that one shifted that line shifted over and we at that time we didn't realize that the that they had stairs put in there when we were preparing the right place. Just
to be clear, what you're saying is this is now this line is going to be like this. And to compensate for that acreage, this is going to come out a little bit more. >> Yeah. But we'll probably that that whole line would come down, not just like a Vshape. >> So that whole line seg that 43 seg
>> the 43 foot segment would come down some. You're going to move it all >> and then go. Yeah. So it stays straight and not just like a >> correct. Yes. Yes. Mr. >> We have an issue in terms of that's not an issue looking at. >> No, I I think that if the board is
comfortable that the areas are going to stay the same that they need to submit revised updated plans to us as along with whatever else you guys are going to want to see as a resolution compliance item. But I don't think that this is, you know, warrants them going back and
revising the plans. It's simple enough for us to envision. >> Yep. >> So, Mr. Chairman, just by way of background, this this application started it it it's essentially what we would call creeping major. So, because of how lot one was created, um it's
triggering a major subdivision, which brings in the 50oot buffer requirement. This originally as submitted was a three lot subdivision. So what the applicant has done is reduced it to two lots and has provided the buffer as was indicated
and I'm going to zoom out along the rear and well side and rear but not along the frontages. So on Arowwood Court and Fort Plains Road, although the setback's 50 foot here, they didn't provide the
buffer in that area. Um, I would take no exception to that given the fact that I would again consider this more of a creeping major. Um, so I would just note that to the board. Um, do you anticipate that these dwellings would have basements?
>> Um, most likely, yeah, the existing one does have a basement in there and there's no water table issue. So, we do anticipate a basement on the second house and that will meet all the town's requirements, >> including the need for a boring. >> Yes. >> Yes.
and the shed. You had indicated a lot of these improvements have already been removed and storm water of the site. Generally, you're going to maintain it. Um we we would ask that if this board were to act favorably that you require a drywall for the new dwelling to be
installed to help mitigate any improved um storm water management. And then the other item is I think sidewalk. So there's sidewalk along Arrowwood Court, but there's no sidewalk proposed along Fort Plains Road. And so should the board want to see that, we should
request that of the applicant in lie of that, they would be subject to the contribution. So, uh, to Miss Newman's point, chairman, board members, we would stipulate with regard to the dry well as requested and with regard to the sidewalk ordinance, since this, uh, as I
referenced in my opening remarks, since the original subdivision occurred in 2000 and the township sidewalk ordinance only recently occurred within the last 5 to 10 years, we presume there was no contribution made by the prior subdivider. And so, it's appropriate for the contribution for the sidewalk to be
made in connection with Fort Plains Road along. I actually would recommend the sidewalk go in. That road is dangerous. There was a kid hit by a car on that road like a year ago. So, >> we defer to the planner. >> I think that the sidewalk should go in. >> Yeah. It's one of these things we got to
start somewhere. >> Yeah. >> Um >> that's fine. >> Yeah. >> It would also provide continuity coming off the sidewalk from court. >> So, I I think it makes sense to provide that. So then what the board has in front of them is essentially um I'll
call them compliant lots, right? With the exception of the fact that because it's a major subdivision, they don't provide the 50ft buffer along the roadway um frontage. >> Is the sidewalk part of the properties or is that right? >> It's in the rightway. >> In the rightway. I just have one
question just because I didn't have the information. You're representing that any dwelling, the new dwelling would be compliant with the height requirement, right? 30 feet, two and a half stories. Okay. >> Um I just want to opine on the buffer a little bit.
>> Sure. >> So it's important to note that our ordinance for a major subdivision, which this came in initially as a major, requires compliance with the buffer, but then all setbacks are measured off the buffer line, not the property line. So
if you give another 50 feet along Arrowwood and 50 feet along Fort Plains and then you require another 50 feet for the setback, you basically putting this property into inutility. I think the applicant has done a really
good job of of kind of meeting us in the middle where number one they lost a lot and I very much appreciate that and then number two they have provided the full buffer along the property lines that are immediately adjacent to adjoining
development and that where they're seeking relief is along the road frontages. So, you know, normally I'm not a huge advocate, but if you add if you put the buffers and then require the setbacks on top, there's literally no building envelope for them to even do anything. So, I would take no exception
to the board granting that limited relief based upon those circumstances which are unique in this particular instance. Um, other than that, the two lots are conforming as was represented by the applicant. And I just would ask, I mean, I don't really think it needs to
be said really. We have a lookalike requirement here in town, Mark, that the houses can't be identical. Is that something you can >> I mentioned that in my opening remarks, and I'm happy to confirm it and stipulate it again. We will abide by the terms of the no lookalike ordinance.
>> I don't have any other issues associated with the subdivision. I think it's a it's a technical conforming minor subdivision. >> Mr. Chairman, one other thing, Mr. Morocco, we have a uh technical engineering review. Would you agree if the board acted favorably to comply with
the comments contained in there? >> Miss Newman, we have no issues with the review that's um identified as uh the Arthon letter of May 15, 2026 and signed by Jordan Rizzo. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.
>> No, >> Mark. Anything else? Uh chairman, I just want to show again what uh the applicant has done with regard to uh restoring the existing residence at the property to the board's benefit. Maybe mark that as A2 if A1 is the uh applicant's um and
board's jurisdictional package. >> I'll pass it around as soon as they >> Oh, you have other copies here. >> It it will be A1. >> Very good. A1 my nickname. Thank you. >> It's very idyllic,
>> right? Chairman, after the board's review of A11, I have nothing further. >> So, >> on the record, but off the record. Um, I do a lot of work in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. >> And this reminds me of a house in
Lancaster, Pennsylvania. >> Thank you, chairman. >> Yeah, it's it's it's uh it's really nice. >> The Menanites in the Pennsylvania Dutch would uh would love it. I can represent to the board that the applicant takes great pride in the structures that they create and in this instance the structure they preserved
and renovated uh that obviously was you know a part and parcel of this subdivision from almost 30 years ago. >> Yeah, it's really really nice. >> Thank you. >> Those spiral staircases, boy, >> they're not
A man of 67 cannot do this in a size 16 shoe. It just doesn't work. >> Very nice. >> All right. Any questions from the board regarding this application?
Seeing none. Laura, you're good. >> Jen, you're good. >> Any >> What's that? >> Yeah, they're talking four planes. >> Yeah. Um, any questions from the public? Seeing none, close the public portion.
Mark, any closing remarks? >> Uh, no, chairman, other than to thank the board for its consideration, as well as thank the board's professionals for their uh, consideration and advices along the way. Thank you. >> Thank you. Very nice presentation and very very well done here. Um, any uh, at
this time I'll entertain a motion. >> I'll make a motion to approve uh, based on what the revision of the lot line, the drywall, and the sidewalk included. Okay, >> I'll second it. >> Mr. McNicholas and Mr. Freriedman for the second roll call, please.
>> Mr. Freriedman? >> Yes. >> Mr. Gimble? >> Yes. >> Mr. Carbonic? >> Yes. >> Mr. McNicholas? >> Yes. >> Mr. Wco? >> Yes. >> Miss Core? >> Yes. >> Chairman Huzer? >> Yes. >> Motion carries. Application is approved. >> Thank you very much, Mark.
>> Thank you very much, ladies and gentlemen. Good evening. We appreciate your time. >> Have a good weekend. >> And you. Thank you. Have a great holiday, everyone. >> You, too. Jennifer, >> so I don't have anything to update you in terms of master plan. We were going to have a master plan subcommittee
meeting tonight. However, Charlie and I were the only ones that were available to attend. So, we're going to push the meeting till next month, sit down, take a look at what we've just did, and see what direction we want to go. So, I'll be in a better position at that meeting to let you know if there's things on the
horizon. >> Good man, Charlie showing up. Um, all right. So, our next is the 4th of June. Is that correct? >> Looks like >> 4th and the 18th of June. Makes sense.
>> And then uh >> then we're really into summer. Hopefully Greenfield's here and he can control the AC for us. Um, everybody have a very nice Memorial Day weekend. Weather's not supposed to be too great, but enjoy enjoy the day off. And uh I will entertain a motion to adjurnn.
>> Motion to adjurnn. Do I have a second? >> Second. >> Thank you.