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[Music] I hereby call this meeting for town of council to order.
>> This meeting is being held in accordance with public law 1975 chapter 231 open public meetings act. Adequate notice has been provided in the manner prescribed by law. This agenda is complete to the extent known and formal action will be taken. I'll begin with a roll call. Councilman Nadell
>> here. >> Councilwoman O'Donnell is absent at the moment. Councilman Rubel >> here. >> Deputy Mayor Fischer >> here. >> And Mayor Leio >> here. >> Thank you, >> Mrs. Bennett. Resolution R25-283. Is there a reason going to executive?
>> Yes, there is. Motion to enter. >> Motion to go to exact. >> Second. >> Councilman Nadell. >> Yes. >> Council Reubel. >> Yes. >> Deputy Mayor Fischer. >> Yes. >> Mayor Leio, >> yes. >> Thank you. >> Roll call, please.
>> Councilman Nadell, >> here. >> Councilman O'Donnell, >> here. >> Councilman Rubel, >> here. >> Deputy Mayor Fischer, >> here. Mayor Leio, >> here. >> Thank you. >> Please rise for the pledge of allegiance. Moment of prayer.
I aliance to the flag of the United States of America to the standy indiv Thank you. >> Accept of minutes. >> I need a motion for October 7th, 2025.
>> I'll make a motion to accept minutes of October 7th, 2025. >> Second. >> Councilman Nadell, >> yes. >> Counciloman O'Donnell, yes. >> Councilman Rubel, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Fischer, yes. Mayor Ledio. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> On to reports from the department officials.
>> Anything, Mr. Gro? >> Nothing. >> Mrs. Bennett? >> No. >> Thank you. >> I do. Real quick. >> I do. Can I say something real? Yeah, I do. Uh, early voting begins October 25th through November 2nd, Monday through Saturday, 10:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. and
Sunday 10:00 a.m. to 6:00 p.m. at St. Veronica Gym. Also, November 6 is Mammoth County Shredding at Memorial Delfia School from 4 PM to 7 pm for residents only. Thank you. >> On to uh hearing of citizens and public
comment for agenda items. >> Each person shall first give their name and address to the clerk. The council should be addressed as a collective body and not as individual members. Each person shall have one turn to address the council and comment shall not exceed a total of 5 minutes. Speaker shall be notified when their time is run and no
time extension shall be permitted. >> No one signed up. >> No one here would like to come up and speak on any issues, any concerns. Seeing more My name is Karen Mloud, 277 Ford Road
here in How um the southern section. Um timing is everything today. Actually, the past week there's it's like the wild west down by us. I was coming on Route 9 south today this afternoon and I'm going to to make a right onto Ford Road and
it's backed up to get onto Ford to get on to Route 9 north and south there. So I get upset because they almost killed me. I was turning onto Ford and at this on from nine to go to my house on Ford Road and this car was waiting to go I thought north to cross over and they
pulled onto the shoulder northbound in the southbound shoulder as I was turning onto Ford Road. Now I've had that I've seen it but it happened to me now the lot that people are just pulling out left right. You know, if you're going to
go north on Route Nine, you have to be in the northbound lane. You can't be turning onto Route Nine in the southbound lane driving. So, I pulled into the gas station because I thought, you know what? I'm going to go after them. I'm like, I was up to here, but they were driving north on the shoulder
south to go into the shopping mall by the almost as far as the um there's a auto repair and Alexandra there. And it wasn't any I was on that horn. It didn't even phase them. So let's back up
Friday. I'm coming on Alexander to make a left onto Route 9 south again. And you go left to go towards south the nine to come to board road. And then you're supposed to go right at the light. So now they're making that two lanes. Now
they're trying to go south at Alexander. So I'm going and their cars are coming across and this guy's trying to inch me out. I'm just trying to get home to a house that I've lived in for 35 years. It just my life lashed in front of me
today and um I just I called the police off non-emergency and I said you guys you need some police presence down here. I know you guys put the four stop. I can't and forward it's it's helping but there's no regard for anybody in our
section anymore. I'm sorry I'm upset but my kids came through the system here. My my husband's still involved in soccer and basketball and I I can't even I go out in my driveway. I go out I have renters everywhere left, right, in and
out monthly. There are different people. My taxes were jacked up like three grand. I go out and I see everything around me and I'm the one following the rules and I don't care who are who it is. I I just I can't I just don't understand what's going on. And I think I feel the southern section has just
been sold off years ago. I think since the school closed, it's just like you're an extension of South and it's just heartbreaking to me. I mean, I know you know it, but today the timing of what happened to me now. It affected me more
than just driving by somebody else. So, I called the of course the the I know I'm over time, aren't I? I know. >> No, you're fine. >> So, I called the traffic guy. Of course, we we're friends because I call all the time, but you can keep saying and I say, "Take my name down because God forbid something happens to me. I'm following
the rules and somebody knocks me off because of stupidity." I I can't I just I just I'm begging you just I know you all know, but do you guys ever come down to that southern section? Ford and Kent is a problem. Lanes Mill and Kent is a problem. Church and Kent
is a pro Ford is a problem. Now, Route Nine is a problem, but everywhere in that vicinity is just there's red lights, there's stop signs, they're make they're cutting through the the red light at the school, southern school. Doesn't matter that you have the let the
turn now the green doesn't matter. It's just there's no regard. And it's heartbreaking to me. You know, I love this town, but I just I really don't want to be forced out, but there's just got to be something, some presence, something because I just feel it percolating. There's just for those of
who are left there after being here for so many years, I just feel it percolating that it's just the anger and the just disregard. So again, thank you for listening. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Anyone else from the public?
>> Yes, I guess. >> Good evening, council. I am Megan Jimenez and I live at Bernard Drive. First, I want to thank you all for taking the time to listen and act on all of our concerns the past months. It's much appreciated. I wanted to discuss a frequent safety concern that has been
brought up at town meetings. The safety of our roadways. The safety of our roadways is diminishing. I see excessive speeding. I've had vehicles tailgating so close to me that I cannot see the hood of their car on Friendship Road. tailgating and flashing the lights for
me to go faster on New Friendship Road. I have seen a vehicle literally leaning on the right route nine median facing the wrong side of the highway. And last but not least, I was struck by a vehicle on Aldred Road while bringing my child to school. You know that there is
definitely a safety concern when almost every neighborhood you turn into, homeowners have their own slowdown and children at play signs that they put up themselves. I witnessed a vehicle going 55 miles per hour in a 25 mph speed zone
on Sammy Drive. That's just not acceptable. There's kids all over there running around, including mine. Uh, a gentleman at the last meeting asked to lower the speed limit on Aldridge Road on the east side. I asked to do the same on the other side all the way to
Aldridge School. The school has a 25 mph speed, but this is only during school hours. And even during school hours, people are turning off of Route 9 and keeping the same speed they were driving on the highway. There is a real need to concentrate on
making our road safer here. And sorry, and whether it be by lowering speed limits, speed bumps, or more police present during certain times of the day, these things do need to be put in place. And I'd ask that they be looked into. Thank you for your time.
[Applause] Anyone else? >> None. Motion to close public. >> Motion to close. >> Second. All in favor? >> I. >> Our professionals like to respond.
>> Yes. Uh we we like our residents, we are very concerned about um traffic and speed issues throughout the township. Um we have already per uh placed orders for additional um speed equipment, speed
signs and speed equipment to put out throughout the township so that we can get a better handle on where the problems exist so that we can deploy our assets better. As well as we're looking at certain areas, uh Aldros being one of them where we're looking at
roadway studies to again to get data that will allow us to justify the actions that we need to take. So we we hear the residents concern about that and we we join them in that concern and look forward to working on that with
them. >> There was no legal issues brought up, mayor. So >> for one staff seat, >> I'll just jump in on the same as Mr. Gross had said. Um, a lot of those streets mentioned in the first speaker. I'm sorry I didn't uh
catch you. A lot of those were put on to our target enforcement zone. If uh Mr. Ger, you just just checked that when we get back. I'm pretty sure that a large portion of that area was designated as a target enforcement zone. >> We never
went in. >> It didn't go in. John tomorrow morning I'll come in I'll speak to you. There's specific roads that we wanted added and in conjunction with Mr. Mr. Star or our police chief that we would like to do this you know the
special enforcement that court mandated right if that could help in any other way. So, one of the reasons that we that we're purchasing the additional um speed signs, the speed sensors, is so that we can look at those roads and actually put data in place to to measure so that we
know what kind of enforcement will work best in those areas. And that that that's our that's part of the of our implementation of that. So that while while obviously the the uh council authorized that to move forward this is
part of that uh implementation step. >> Yeah. Listen and as far as the residents are concerned you know our township roads or our township roads that how PD is you know we oversee but they also obviously oversee Route 9 and
surrounding roads. But maybe as as residents, you could uh reach out to you. So you got two other two other um law enforcement agencies that could come into town, right? We could reach out to our county officials and have the sheriff's department come down here and
monitor a couple intersections. That's in their in their in their purview if they if they're if the sheriff allowed it. And we could also, you know, that's our county officials. And then at the state level, reach out to Senator Singer, reach out to Assemblyman, you know, I mean, um, Congressman Smith at
the state level, we should have some state troopers down here, which I've seen in the past, state troopers on Route 9 doing enforcement. I have seen it over the years. Okay, those are two other avenues that we, you know, we could possibly reach out to the officials. You as residents and
taxpayers, you do the same. Okay, that's uh you know, get more people involved. We understand it's frustrating. We're on the same road you are every day. Some people just don't care. There's no no regard for anyone else. They drive with blinders on, their heads are down,
they're on their phones. It's it's ridiculous. And until something bad happens, then it's, you know, then it's going to be another whole situation that we're going to have to deal with. So, uh just uh just pay attention to your surroundings and you be a defensive driver.
Yeah, >> like I am every day. >> Yes, sir. >> I have a question. >> Why don't just come up and address the council then, sir? >> Okay. >> Even though we closed, but I was supposed to do that. But >> I I know. I'm sorry. I was a little late
getting >> uh Richard Krug for Semi Drive. how >> uh if if they're looking into procuring additional uh radar based signs um my friend that I come here with
Marsha had a very good idea and she wanted to know what the additional cost would be to include uh photo photographic equipment to catch scoffs over a certain threshold. So,
just like an officer, Ian would know, maybe they'll give you a little bit of, uh, grace, 5 miles an hour. But in my development, uh, in front of my house the other day, I've been out there for three days straight working on vehicles. And, uh, I did call the how police and
he said to me, "What do you want us to do? They're long gone now." So, I told him, I said, "Well, I can stop them. I I know what to do. I I just don't want to go to jail." Uh, you know, but but I know how to stop. I'm wondering what the cost would be to take a picture of the
license plate of the vehicle. >> I'm sorry. >> And and and issue a ticket to them, issue him a summon. >> The the real question on that is is to what end? because the there was a point in time when um speed u speed cameras
were going to be instituted in New Jersey and this and the Supreme state supreme court ruled them unconstitutional. So you because you you can't confront or accuse him. So >> those pictures can't be used as evidentary support. >> The pictures cannot be used. >> Cannot be used.
>> Did anybody tell New York City that >> they have a different state? >> Different state. >> Yeah. Okay. I'm making a joke. Uh >> it it certainly would >> would stop them. I'm a big proponent. >> I mean I I I was out there yes yesterday uh and Saturday and I had one guy he was
probably doing above 50 miles an hour on Sammy Drive and uh you know I can throw wrenches at him by accident but I I don't know >> again don't do that. >> All right. I thought it was a good idea.
The bottom line is the PD PD can't be there 24/7. All right. And and the bottom line is >> enforcement needs to step up. >> Yeah. >> All right. But that also comes with these studies and and not studies, you know. >> How how about if it's not in in the
format of a penalty? How about if it's just for the information? You said it's a factf finding effort. What if you took the picture and you went to them and said, "Listen, we're not giving you a ticket, but do you realize you you were doing 55
miles an hour in a 25 mph speed limit? Would it have some shock value?" >> Yeah, it's certainly something that we could consider if we had the technology, but I got to think it's not it's not an efficient use of our time. you know, the the the equipment that we are buying
will actually give us solid data as to how many cars, you know, how many cars are speeding, you know, what what are the if there's patterns that we can pick up will help us with enforcement and and and making sure that the limited resources we do have get placed where they can do the the best the best job.
>> Okay. All right. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. Plus, I would just like to add to that I realized that someone had called the police department and you you may have felt that it fell on deaf ears, but I would encourage you not to stop.
Continue to uh call the PD, explain the situation, bring it to their attention uh if need be every day. and an email to Chief Storow may also be a good idea to make sure that all this information uh flows uphill so that he's aware of uh
all of the concerns and especially people driving the wrong way on nine is just unbelievably stupid. I would like to think they don't know any better, but we all know that that's just past ignorance. That is just stupid. So, I beg you to keep calling PD
and please uh alert the chief as well. Um because I hate to say it, but you know, they do get busy. We all get busy, but sometimes uh the squeaky wheel gets the attention quicker and certainly traffic is uh life and death in in many
cases. So, please don't lose faith in the phone calls because the public um public requests do matter, I'm sure. So, please do it. >> S I think um you know we're working on
obviously we did discuss alter road tonight but maybe even asking the police department to run like a temporary patrol campaign like just >> you know I just because I'm in the same area as as the two residents that or three residents that came up so I get
it. Um, but if we can ask maybe the PD, we're getting more and more complaints to run like even a just a two week, you know, I don't know what to call it, but patrol campaign, you know. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. There you go. >> We used to be famous for that. How was I
mean, you came into how you you were afraid of getting getting a ticket. >> Oh, yeah. >> Now we're afraid to write them. Not sure what happened there, but that's for another discussion. Mr. Gross. Uh, >> all right, folks. We're going to move on. Michael, anything?
>> No, you covered everything. >> Now, we're going to move on to >> John, you want me to touch on that uh wreck thing? >> Yes. Mr. Mr. Nell and I have have been speaking about something and it's I think it's going to be great. Uh, something for the town that we want to implement and bring back that we used to
have that was taken away. I think the kids are going to appreciate this and the parents and Mr. Mr. Nadell is spearheading this. So, I want him to tell everyone what we're doing. So, uh, the mayor and I met with Mr. Gross last week. U most residents are aware. We used to have a recreation committee
within town. So, we're looking to bring back something similar. It's going to be a recreation advisory committee. Uh we'd like to see it made up of representatives of various sports leagues in town. See the needs, wants, how to improve all these township fields
that are being used by the various leagues by other residents, parks and whatnot to kind of streamline the process through the committee, the DPW, then report to the council. So this a good way to get input various uh avenues
from the different aspects where the different sports different ages but we would like to see a lot of effort coming in from volunteers and especially some representatives from these sports leagues to be part of this uh advisory committee. Uh hopefully we could get this rolled out and potentially start
doing appointments come January for the reorg. >> A big deal in town to a lot of residents with with the children in the leagues and whatever sport they play, you know, baseball or football or soccer, lacrosse, softball, girls softball. We
have everything here, folks. And we, you know, we feel it's very important that we keep giving back to the residents. Pay a lot of taxes here. We don't get a lot for what we pay for. And, you know, we understand that. But any any you know
area that we can improve to give the taxpayers back you know a little bit more and to improve our fields for the kids. It's all about the kids and the volunteers is very important to myself and I I think everyone here feel the
same way. All right good vote on consent agendas. Does anyone wish to separate any consent agenda? >> Yeah. >> All right. Resolution R-25277 through R25-282A.
>> Motion to approve uh R25277 up to and including R25282A. >> Second. >> Councilman Nadell. >> Yes. >> Councilman O'Donnell. >> Yes. >> Councilman Reubel. >> Yes. be Mayor Fischer. >> Yes. >> Mayor Leio, >> yes.
>> Thank you. The consent resolutions pass. >> All right. Now, I have a motion to approve set agenda 16 of resolution 25-277. Oh, you already said that. >> Mhm. >> Unfinished business. >> None at this time.
>> Not at this time. And now we're on to introduction of ordinances. Ordinance 25-42, capital ordinance providing for GIS mapping and the acquisition of various sewer utility equipment and appropriating 335,000 therefore authorized in and by the
township of how and the county of Mammoth, New Jersey. >> I'll make a motion to introduce uh such ordinance. >> Second. >> Councilman Nadell, yes. >> Councilman O'Donnell, >> yes. >> Councilman Rubel, yes. >> Deputy Mayor Fischer, >> yes. Mayor Legio.
>> Yeah. >> Thank you. The ordinance is properly introduced. >> Ordinance 25-43, capital ordinance providing for the acquisition of various capital vehicles and equipment and appropriating 720,000. Therefore, authorized in and by the town of Beth
Howell in the county of Mammoth, New Jersey. >> Motion introduced 2543. >> Second. >> Council, excuse me, Councilman Nadell. >> Yes. Counciloman O'Donnell. >> Yes. >> Councilman Rubel, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Fischer,
>> yes. >> Mayor Ledio, >> yes. >> Thank you. The ordinance is properly introduced. Ordinance 0-25-44, an ordinance amending article 10 of the township code entitled zones creating a section 188-84.7
entitled moderate and low-income housing mixed use overlay zone 17 known as ML-17 zone. I'll make a motion to introduce ordinance 25-44. I'll second. >> Councilman Nadell, >> yes. >> Councilman O'Donnell, >> yes.
>> Councilman Rubel, >> yes. >> Deputy Mayor Fischer, >> yes. >> Mayor Leio, >> yes. >> Thank you. The ordinance is properly introduced. >> All right, folks. Like to thank everyone for coming out tonight. We appreciate things have calmed down a little bit.
We're working hard to, you know, keep doing our job up here and our professionals keep doing our job and our staff here, you know, from our DPW to across the board, code enforcement, housing, everyone. And uh, you know, we
we want to encourage the residents to, you know, speak up when they need to speak up. You can email us directly at the governing body or email Mr. Gross, our township manager. And believe me, your emails will be addressed, okay? And
uh but we need to stick together as a community and we need to uh get along. Like I've said in previous meetings, I know we have some challenges. We're going to work work through them. Everybody needs to take a deep breath and and uh
>> yep, >> we got the holiday season coming, folks. I want to see everyone happy and healthy for the holiday season. So, um, thank you again for coming out. Our next regular scheduled meeting will take place on November 25th. Executive session will begin at 6 PM. Regular
session is 7. So, we are we will see you then. >> Mr. Mayor, just quickly, I'd like to remind everybody that before the next meeting, we have Veterans Day and every year we have a very nice program honoring the veterans. So, uh, just keep
watching our website and you'll find out the time and the, uh, and the place, which is all standard, but let's not forget Veterans Day. I know we don't, just a gentle reminder. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> Motion to adjurnn. >> I need a second.
>> Second. >> All in favor? All right. Okay. Bye.