This one I see no lights. What's that? Too much pressure. Welcome to the century 21st century. No.
Looks like second motion. She's ready. That was the best. What's that? 5:30. I would call the regular city of White Lakes Council meeting for Monday,
November 10th at 5:30 to order. >> Counc >> here. >> Garcin >> here. Matson here. Scott >> here. Thank you. Please stand alsisible with liberty and justice for all.
>> All right, moving on to the consent agenda. Has everybody had a chance to read through that? Any questions or comments? See that Tamika, our flight officer, sent us some information very
laid out very nicely. So, thank you for that. I like the pictures and all the addresses listed and kind of updates. So, that's appreciated. Um, do you wish to say anything of that? Um, I did I know there's a few on there that said I
haven't heard back from. There's a couple voicemails I have to return that I bought over the weekend. Um, um, the Gilford one and the W do one I will be returning calls probably this evening, but other than that, I haven't heard back from anybody else. So, I will be
Wednesday I will be driving around check compliance on those addresses again. So the only thing I have unless you guys have questions for me >> is that report differently change nicely kind of dates on what's going on
with each one. Yeah, like that. >> You just have to learn the ordinances. >> Exactly. I went through do I list them all by or >> even one word would help. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Whether it was flight or whatever.
>> Okay, I can do that. >> Light grass or garbage or >> Sounds good. >> And then as you're doing the job, if you find that there's a better way you could be doing things, feel free to reach out to us and give suggestions on how we can
make things better. And if there's ever several times you guys want more pictures, anyone that I have sent a compliance letter to, I do take pictures. I just picked that one particular picture because out of the group that I sent compliance letters to, that happened to be the worst. >> Um, so I just saw there was much needed
clean up at that address. Um, so for us to have that much improvement already, especially from the that house started, um, that seemed pretty good for me at that point. So, like I said, I take pictures from every house before I submit it. So,
>> yes. Thanks again. >> No problem. >> Any other questions or comments on anything on the consent agenda? Um, hearing nothing, I'll ask for a motion to approve the consent agenda as written. So, motion from councelor Jar.
Is there a second? >> Second. >> Second from councelor Grahams. All those in favor? I. >> Any opposed? hearing another motion approved. Um moving on to the guest and citizens forum. Um before we ask from president, we'll have Jacob Chris pole
um have his presentation for the joint water project. Okay. >> Well, thanks for having me. Uh what we tried to get together out at the project site, but ultimately uh we're able to kind of put together a little bit of virtual tour. So I I do have a
presentation here I'll outline. It's going to provide you some of the design documentation for your current project. And then I'd like to jump into some photos when we do have some drone footage of the actual construction method. So that should give you a good picture of what the phase one project for the strange water system is. And then if you guys have any questions, I'd
be happy to answer them. Uh so like I said mentioned, so what I'm going to go through is just a few project designs. We'll go through the project components and then I'll have some detailed drawings on the blog water intake the water treatment plant and I'll get to that presentation.
So overall for the project components uh what this project entailed is is establishment of a new water treatment facility adjacent to the water tower in also there was a construction of a east of the east range water boards intake
structure out by pit with this project there was a pipeline corridor that was established uh to provide water to the residents of white and some external residents were Aurora this project was sized raw water intake could accommodate 1,800
gallons per minute and the surface water plant for this initial phase being sized at 0.8 mgd which is a million gallons per day. Uh they also installed uh for this upcoming project will be installing a 16inch raw water main. So that was installed from the beer pit all the way
back to the water treatment plant and that was on that blue line. When this project started, there was a bid opening for September 7th, roughly around 34 uh and a quarter million. Um that was a little bit past the funding. There was a funding gap. So we were contracted to
assist with value engineering which we brought the project down to 294 on the second bid opening uh to provide a cost savings of roughly 5 million on this project. So this is the location of the raw water intake. It's at Warner Square. Uh so it's adjacent to BABIC's current flowing
barge system on Baris Bay. The raw water intake is constitutes a queson structure uh with a pipeline system. And to kind of collaborate, this is the shoreline right here of the lake. So that's the lakeside. There's an intake screen, a discharge intake line
that comes into a concrete queson structure that fills with water. And then inside that structure, there are pumps and a pump house to lift water along the pipeline back to Aurora. This is a sectional view that just kind of shows you the same thing with the water line. A lot of modeling went into
this to determine if there was enough capacity to pull for all four communities which were part of the original East Ranch joint towers. The intake uh structure itself is equipped with two under this project two pumps. there was a third spot uh
installed for white lakes in the future. So this building is currently um being laid out actually as we speak. They haven't started this part of the project, but the quesan structure is installed. I'll show you some photos. So here's a couple couple uh examples of
that queson structure being built. We'll get into more detail in the presentation. The photo lock, there's kind of a snapshot of what it looks like inside that concrete queson structure. for the water plant. The water plant is laid out uh as a modular expansion. So
you can kind of see with these dash lines in the future there'll be an expansion for lakes along with an expansion for the well. So currently all the facilities this is your primary water treatment plant. We have parking lot area contacting a backwash like I
said areas are expandable. The facility build being built is your standard surface water treatment facility which looks at fauculation, sedimentation and filtration. Uh and then this facility has a common space that's being built that all communities
would be sharing um under this current facility build. That's your common space on the north and then this is a treatment train that you see on this on the bottom side of the page uh for what makes be a very similar treatment train right to the south of that page. There's
three levels uh to this uh this plan where you have a a growth plan and an upper catwalk to the uh treatment facility components for those sedimentation tanks, the filtration tank and the flock tank.
Have a couple quick uh pools just showing you guys um some of the construction for the tanks of the in flooror tanks, the discharge line. We have the pre-cast going up to the main facility which ultimately the building today as you driven by looks
like this. So if you guys have any initial questions on the design or layout and I'll kind of get into the photos that kind of give you a good walk through of the facility. Just a second. There we go. So, I'm going to start off with the raw
water tank. Um, I'm going to go quick through some of the photos to kind of give you guys the green space to what it is today. Uh, so if you have any questions, just pause me as we kind of go through this and I'll be happy to elaborate a little bit further. So, when we first started, this is the green space. This is for the roller intake
structure and this is down by the embarrass pit. So a roll was cut in and this is an older access uh trail that they had back there. Looks like there was overall people used to use it for whatever sort of uh uh thing wanted to just kind of going back there a little
bit of debris and everything. Overall this is the location of where the intake structure is going to sit and then this is the location of where that screen is going to sit into the embarrass pit. Um this is a staging area for the project as you guys have kind of driven by. They first started off by building a
shelter because this is a long-term project. So over two years this intake structure was being built. So initial um concrete work was done just to set up for staging areas. They came in, they leveled that area. So this is the current when they started. This is uh they dug down to get the queson
structure installed part of it to do the sinking. So they graded the back area um sloped everything. When they started making their initial cuts uh excavators and cranes came on site to assist with that work. Uh this is the frame that they use when they build it. So what a
queson structure is it's a concrete this is a concrete 24 in sorry 24 foot diameter structure with roughly 6t walls. So, as they sunk this thing, it's by gravity and they use this ring to build um to form around it. Then they
pour concrete when they sink it. We have a few examples of just the rebar that goes into the structure. But here's a good picture of when they're building it, they'll frame it up, form it, pour the concrete, and later on when they sink it, this this crane will clam material in the center of it, and that
structure slowly settles down, and then they start over again. So, this was built in 10 foot lifts by slowly sinking it into the earth. This is when they're getting ready to start sinking that case on. So, they're starting to clam. And here's an example that several days later after it sunk. So, you can kind of
see just slowly goes into the earth over a period of time. Um, this picture is just showing you that this is the next loop of rebar that goes on top of it. They have rebar that goes into every section to make it continuous. And they just start over, pour it again, and start to sing it. on
the forms. There's another there's a picture of the bottom lift as they're doing the rebar from it. Most of the quesan was constructed in the winter time. So, this took most of the winter just to sink it. It's very slow going because you don't want the structure to tip. Um it's a
very delicate process. As we got to summertime, they were able to kind of speed up a little bit. Here's an aerial image of the queson structure. This does not have the final ring on it, but we did some drone flights uh during the the construction project. So to show the full project,
the side shot, we have a little video, a drone video that kind of shows you the site structure about 30 ft. And you went this way to the orange.
Why? Uh longterm cost of maintenance. The largest life cycles are in the 10 to 20 before you do major maintenance. This should be 80 to 100 years before you. So this is a picture. So once once we were constructing they didn't even water the queson structure and it starts to
get sealed. You want the queson waterproof and then you also have to remove all the muck and material that kind of comes into the structure over time just naturally. So they lower a mini excavator in there and and daylight material and remove from the case of structure. Here's an example of as
they're installing the final ring. was a smaller ring and getting ready for a structural slab that goes across the top of the quesan which will then support the building that's sitting on top there. At this point then they they were able to seal everything. They're removing
water and they're getting ready to micro tunnel um through that kind of see on that far side concrete penetration that's on the lake side. They set up a a rig and they'll actually drill through that concrete sleeve and go out towards the lake. uh that intake line out to the
lake is roughly 120 feet. So, here's where they've set up the the drill machine. Uh the jack and board machine, pretty neat. And it's very neat. All they do is they there's an auger head that drills out the material, pull pushes a slurry up to these black
tubes on the top of the pitcher. And then that machine slowly pushes these 36 in steel casings into the earth out into the intake line. And this is done over several weeks of just constantly pushing. Um, let's get it
a little bit of a video just kind of showing them slowly pushing. The video the video is about 3 minutes long and doesn't show a lot because it's very slow. So, if you guys would like to have a video of that or see more of it, we can definitely send it over to you guys to kind of take a look. But it's it's a very slow process. Um, they inch this
thing in until it gets to the elevation they want. And here's a shot of one of our inspectors inside. So once the the sleeves were installed, they do grout around along that 36 inch seal. You can see sort of a fitting on the top of the
page. That's where they do grout injections. Uh and then they send teams of individuals down these things and they do weld them. So like there's work that goes on inside these uh these 36 inch diameter jacket pipes.
You want to find me in there? So, so that was the case on structure and this is ultimately where it's at right now. So, additional work that's going on is additional water sealing and they're getting to the point where they're going to start building that building on the top, but they've not started that process yet.
Any questions on the intake structure? All right, so this is the water treatment plant location. I just kind of want to walk through um some of the phases and I'll go through this quickly along with some of the tanks. So I started off by developing this green space. They've laided everything out and
then you start excavating for the tanks which are subsurface of water during plant. Something you guys don't see with that building today is there's large tanks adjacent to the structure that are underground that not really can see other than a few accesses. So they do the work to do the
preliminary bedding large excavation ready for forms and then they start placing the forms onto crush rock or gravel be formed up and they pour these bottom slabs foundations. They'll do the form work. This is one of
the backwash tanks that was on the drawing. So, uh, they built the backwash and the chlorine contact tank at the same time and then they moved on to the water treatment facility that is but up against it. Here they're doing more more work laid out for that chlorine contact tank.
Here's the form work. Lots of rebar goes into this. This is going to be your backwash tank. Shows examples of it. This was sized large enough to accommodate um all four communities if they ever came on. So there's very little addition that has to happen with a backwash tank.
>> Are those tanks coated with anything on the inside before they're closed up? >> Yes. Yes. They are typically uh typically sealed with either epoxy coating um or or some sort of resin that you do maintain over time. Here's all the concrete all the form
work for the chlorine contact tank. It's hard to see but chlorine contact tanks there's a lot of bath that goes up. These are all individual walls that get constructed during the process and that slowly moves water through it to ensure that you have good residence time for pouring.
Additional form work to break out. There's some of those interior walls I was talking about getting formed up. Now they started laying out at this point in time they started laying out the foundation for the water treatment facility. So on the far side of the page you can see that that chlorine contact
tank putting work forms for the tanks themselves and they also have to run all the underground utilities before they can even build the building. So all the valving, all the lines that go between
the tanks are all subsurface. So all that was installed prior to pouring concrete for any of the sedimentation, fauculation or filtration tanks. While we have all the utilities in the bar starts going in for all the tanks themselves, this is the discharge line
that 16inch raw water discharge feed and some uh psych shots. So this is once the tanks were built. So, this is some drone footage that we have. And what you're looking at on your screen is you see the the flock the fauculation tank is on the right. The
sedimentation tank is there in the center. The filtration tank is going to be um sorry, I'm backwards. The sedimentation tank is in the the center. The last tank is a filtration tank. There's the finished um chlorine contact
tank. that subsurface tank. Then where the crane is sitting, that's the common area for the facility that has the bathrooms, showers, garage, high service pumps. Here's a little bit more of a close-up drone shot.
your filtration tanks, cementation tanks, and then you're going to have your rapid mixer right where my mouse is roughly at. So, the structure, the pre-cast structure. So, at this point, pre-cast are going up. That's that large panel on the left side of the page. Um it's
definitely a uh excellent way to go for constructing buildings quickly because the pre-cast panels go up. Um they gives it a nice finished look. So the panels are being set. Here's the far west wall with panel set.
Come around the back side finishing. So this this is two sections of pre-cast and then you can get different colorations for the for the pre-cast itself. Once a pre-cast was set, they started moving on to utilities. They had the
roof materials. So inside the building, they were laying out all the utilities underground. Uh this is going to be then the floors will be uh will be p sorry will be placed later. Um but this allow all your plumbing for your bathrooms, your fixtures, uh feed lines, supply
lines, electrical is all is all put in. Here's an example of the roof and medium roof is installed on that lower level. Flooring material is also going in and they're going to pour concrete floors over these tanks to provide levelers. The stoops were installed outside the
facility additional uh and then once they finished the utilities in the floor inside the building now we're pouring the slabs roofing common space and this is over the tanks that we saw outside. They're bringing those grades
back up and getting ready to place a parking lot in some of the sidewalks. So, here's that uh gravel area for parking in the future. This is one of the chlorine contact tanks. Now, it's buried. So, that will come up to grade eventually to the top
of that hatch. This is a large tank that you just will have a small vent access to. Then, the CMU internal walls went up in the last several weeks. So that is it. So currently the building where it's at is there's no access to the upper
levels. There are still windows, door work, other work that is required and they're looking at getting the system online this upcoming uh May, April, April, May. So you guys have any questions?
pretty impressive the process. >> So, the work will continue to underway. Um, one thing I I just asked Dean about too as part of this presentation, we wanted to give you guys an update to it. We talked in our last East War meeting about construction implementation methods that can be used in the future.
Uh this current project is being built under a general a design bid build model which is where you design it out then you bid the project and then you have contractors bid that work and uh obviously build a project uh for
construction. Under this project there's an opportunity that for the white lakes portion of the phase two project that is currently being designed is looking at a construction manager at risk model. Uh what this model is is where you you will hire a firm that will
ultimately bid out all the scope of work in manageable uh buckets as you might call it to contracting groups such as dirt work group, electrical group, mechanical groups. Um but ultimately they're going to bid all this work out with a guaranteed maximum price which
allows you guys to understand what the cost of the project's going to be early on. Um other models will require is that you you understand what your project cost is going to be on bid day. Here you bring the construction manager on during the design phase and they work with the project team the engineering team to
kind of do cost estimation, value engineering and other things that would be beneficial to ensuring that that project can be built on a select budget and within a certain time frame. So the current project is being built uh sign bid built but this would be a great
opportunity for quite likes to explan explore a semar process and get them on uh to get them to get a semar on board it typically takes about a month to two months once a board or council approves moving forward with that. Um and so what that entails is we
conduct interviews with CMRs uh that could be like a man construction or lakehead or other groups that are available. Um and then they'll they'll provide a quote from pre-construction services which is typically the cost estimating portion of this.
So through this process there's a lot of value where you find you get to understand what your project cost going to be at early front. They can be involved to understand changes in industry such as if there's going to be an increase in cost for items such as fittings, valves, they understand where
the workforce is. Um, and in this case, as this project is going to be looking for funding over the next year or so, getting them on board allows for locking in a price, understanding that price to also dial in the funding. So, we want to bring that up today because that was a conversation with East Ranch Water Board
during the last meeting. They're also evaluating whether that cost model would make sense or construction model, forgive me, uh, makes sense. But we wanted to bring it here and talk with you guys. see if you have any questions about construction manager um risk models or more information
like anybody regarding that I'm sure reaching out with further questions or is Is there a date you want to know that by? Uh, no. We can. So, where we're currently at with the design phase is we still have some time to uh incorporate a
construction manager. Um, like I said, what's helpful now is we work through construction estimates. We can provide market value um to based off historical experience. But when you when you bring them in, they can look at the designs at roughly 60 90% you typically involve
them with. Um, so we're not going to be at 6090s uh for several months just based off where the project schedule are. That still affords time for you're talking mechanical, electrical, building, structural, which are the critical components. There's time for that to get involved. So
yeah, starting those sorts of things. Thanks for anybody else. um for Jake for this presentation. I think towards the end there's something else regarding the video
that we get marketing towards the end. Yeah, doesn't sound like anybody has any questions um for the presentation. Thanks for giving that continuing on. Is there anybody that has any questions
or anything that they want to share resist library director um events we have in November include a music program with Greg Ted Bersie um called the songs of Msabi and it's this
Friday October Otober uh 14th at 10:30 a.m. On the 13th, Thursday, we have a movie we are playing October Sky at 1:00. On November 17th, Monday, police chief post will be sitting down with
visitors in the library to talk about the work of the East Range Police Department. And November 18th, we are making a farmhouse style tree ornament for our Tuesday creations. That's at 11 o'clock. And again, all of our events
are free and open to everyone. So, we encourage you to join us. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you, city attorney. >> Thanks, Mayor. I don't moving on for reports from elected officials. Councelor Grahams,
>> just have a couple updates from the joint cover board. As part of the housing committee, we started um called the seller readiness program. And so we finally had our first loan. It's a there's no interest. There's just an administrative fee and it's a homeowner is trying to sell their house, but it
might need a new roof, new windows, um some ADA or safety features before it can sell. We'll provide them with the funds to do that. And then we recoup that money at closing and we can continue to provide that to people that are looking to sell their homes. So we had our first one for that that they'll
close on later this month. And then we also have the business loan participation. Uh during COVID, we gave some zero interest loans to six local businesses so they could either get by during CO because the business was low or to do some repairs uh maintenance
renovations that they needed. And now we revamped that program. It's a low 4% interest over 10 years alone. And we did our first one of those also with one of the Aurora businesses. So, we just did a mass mailing and email that I also sent to all the administrators to kind of
promote to your local businesses. I'm sure I didn't get every single one in all the towns. So, we can kind of push that to anyone looking to do some some work on their business to keep it running. And that's it for now.
>> All right. Thank you, Council. Um, our last meeting when Bucky Peterson was talking about what was going on at the arena, I apparently misunderstood some of the things he said. I talked to him. Uh, I wanted to question the water
heater, the eyewash, and shower cost on the ammonia plant at the arena. And he set it up so I could attend the meeting. And as it turned out, it was a misunderstanding on my part. I apologize to the contractor for taking their time
off for that. Um, and they were only talking about the emergency shut offs, but I thought it was for the whole project. Thinking of that, I mean, it was a 300,000 BTU electric water heater, which would provide enough water for
five or six houses in town. But anyway, we got that cleared up um at the PD uh East Range Police Department meeting tonight for the the commission. Um Jordan explained to us that they were
able to get rid of the uh vehicle they had, the former K9 vehicle, and they sold it off for four grand. He said it also needs about four grand to work. So, that was good for the city to see that go. You know, I have been approached by a couple of citizens in the during the
fall about activity of our police department with the money the city pays out every month for them. And I really couldn't answer their questions. Um and as luck would have it, talked to a friend from Gilbert and in Bass
mentioned it to him and he said that their city council and police commission there get reports from the police department every month and they're able to review it to see what the activity level is of the department. I don't know
if Eve does that at all. Yes, I haven't watched that. So, I'm not sure. >> Okay. >> I don't know if they do or not. I can find out. >> I just That was just curiosity. Um and
he explained what went on and uh like I said at the meeting I know Gilbert C and he provided me with some of the information. I brought it up to Tiffany and Jordan and they're going to look in at possibility of providing that
information to both the city council and the uh East Range PD commission. Find out now so that we can see what the activity levels are. That's all I have. Sounds >> um I have someone from AOA reach out to
me and they want to expand transportation in our area. So, she just wanted me just to ask people what are our needs. Um, if they want, they can email me what our needs are. Like some people suggested like for sports after
school so more kids could play sports. Um, and then also don't put cans in the pantry down here because they're starting to freeze at night. So, they're expanding. So, just wanted to remind people don't do that right now. And
that's it. >> Right. Um, so yeah. I need transportation then for transportation reach out to you email certain >> good um nothing from me either so we'll just move on to old business
over old business 5.1 Verizon land lease agreement might speak a little bit So that's kind of informal last week to try to kick it back up list
something to work on and to move forward in your packet. I included what we're getting from American power currently um for the power that's out there. The initial it was in a couple different company packets. I didn't print out the whole land visa again. But um but he
told me last month if we I told him what our rates were for American dollar about $500 per tower over here to um and I see we're getting next year we get 856 for American. So maybe you could
just mirror that so I can keep moving forward or pick a number so I can >> I like the other one. >> There's some other gear on this tower too. So that's make sure to check on
that if they hang somebody else on that tower that we also get for that as well because that's what we apparently we get a 856 from American Tower. I get another 500 or something from somebody else over here that's
really the only significant thing to make sure this is consistent as long as we keep it equal between the two towers. Yeah. So his argument is going to be um well I think it's a less of a footprint because the tower that's out there
layers on it larger piece of property in my mind still just because it has wires or doesn't have it shouldn't change the feet I'd like to get a decision on that.
>> I guess do they look at like they're leasing the land from us and that's why they want to be less or they're leasing less land. That's what I understand. If they're leasing on a smaller parcel of land, they're ask less money than if you go and buy 30 acres of
land, you're going to pay more than if you buy 10 acres of land. I mean, >> true, but this is conductive business. >> This is a matter of square footage with these towers. They're not that the area that they're the tower base is in isn't that big to begin with. And then these
pads for the guy wires, they're fairly small also. >> We don't like when we lease this one, the American power, we don't lease the whole footprint, including the guy laid out. It's mapped out.
So it's three by 300 is what he's looking to do as far as the land. But I'm looking more franchis I >> mean if that's the only sticking point he's saying well it's less planned I
mean I wouldn't mind entertaining a discussion about that that's going to hold up the whole process something's better than nothing definitely but >> well my thought would be to my recommendation would be give them a number that you guys are comfortable with and then see that
I think from looking at both of the agreements that the rising has proposed has more larger that's requesting 10,000 square feet
I think is 2500 that's guidel I just assumed it was because the footprint of the map >> you want starting I say we can start with what we're
currently using as American comes back with >> I like the mirroring because I think the numbers will be easier like mirroring it the same as that kind of the numbers would be easier to follow. >> Agree
856. Yeah, because there's a two two% escalation on there too. That's why every year 2% with both contracts that >> make a lot of money in that building. His
first hour was 550. >> Yeah, I remember being 550. Everything's gone up. Joel, would we need to make a motion on that or just 850 and then continuing to negotiate? Um,
you can just direct to negotiate with them. Uh I do think one thing we could look at is I think that the American agreement that lease has incorporates easements for those guy
wires. So the overall footprint is not all lease and they've got easements for those guy. So it is a little different. It's not exactly apples to apples as far as horizon is actually a little bit larger path but the overall yes the
overall so but we can look at that and compare that direct and I can work on too long as you have I guess a formula plan in mind of how you want to set that you can do that you could just do it like I would do a
motion so it's in record should have clear evidence Um so we'll take a motion to direct um city staff that including city administrator Wber and city attorney um to continue
coordinating with Verizon with the council approving that starting rate. We'll have that as a motion. Is there anybody motion from councelor Matson? All those in favor?
Any opposed? Hearing none motion. We we need to keep in mind that with the American tower with the guywires, they are tying up that entire block of land.
there is if they're only taking the pad that the guy wires are on and releasing the small areas, they're still locking up that entire parcel. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. You can't put anything under
5.2 association. mind speaking this two mean? >> Yeah. So I made all the corrections and that were on there except for the changes. Um the only if you guys are you had a chance to look at it but the only
thing that's outstanding is they did request a 4060 split versus a 3070 split on revenues. >> That's what they wanted. Yeah. 40%. >> No, they get 70%. In the last agreement,
well, it was 6040 at one point. They get 60%, they want to get 70% now. >> And the city is 30. >> So that's the way they Yeah. >> So they want 70% instead of 60%. >> Yeah. I think it used to be 60.
>> It used to be. Yeah. >> 7030 and then it switched to 6040. So now they want to go back 7030. And I don't see a problem with that because you know they have less I mean there's used to be at least two boys and two girls play high school hockey games
there. They us last year they had one boys game there and that's it. I mean I think youth hockey they're combined with Virginia and a lot of games are held over there. So I mean I don't think they're making quite as much money as they used to. They get junior gold now.
They do. That's not I don't think as well attended. It's getting I mean it is popular but I I feel like the revenue is still down but everything's gone up in price. >> Oh yeah. >> If we do up >> if we do that is there some way it can
be watched so that we can look at the end of the year and say okay they're making a lot more than they used to. Maybe we go back to the 6040. They used to have to submit. >> Yeah, I think at the end of the year talking with
they they send over the the information so that we kind of know what the figures are. I don't know if they did that last year or not. So, but if not, we can touch base with them. Yeah. End of the year.
So yeah. >> Yeah. way of supporting you talking making sure that costs are relatively low purchase that in addition Bucky talked about how we
got a fair amount of money from them to make improvements in the area too. So a way of thanking them for that too. >> And I see we do get the list of what they own. >> Oh yeah on there. Yeah, they don't. most of it is what laces. So you know just to
remember that we're responsible for keeping all that you know it's our cost as well that's updates. Um, does anybody have any other comments or questions regarding this new um, concession stand agreement?
Hearing none, I will ask for a motion to approve the White Lakes concession stand agreement. Motion from Beckman, second from councelor Ja. All those in favor? Any oppos? Hearing none.
Moving on to do business 11.1 max grade application number 14 nearing the end of having to approve these um fingers crossed.
Um yeah for the arena um we got 13 before this looks similar to all. >> Anything else you want to add to any of this? >> No. I think it's a great project. It looks fantastic. The only thing that's left in there is is the wheelchair lift
and that'll be it. The retainer at the end that we have to hold back. But yeah, all in all, yeah, some change% under the change orders that we had a couple.
>> Yeah. Any other questions or comments regarding this pay application? Hearing none, I'll ask for a motion to approve max application number 14 and $28,93616. I'll make that motion. Motion from
councelor GS. Is there a second? Second second from councelor Matson. All those in favor I. Any opposed? Hearing motion carries. Moving on to 11.2 2026 council meeting monthly schedule. Um moving to the second and fourth Tuesdays
of the month at 5:30. >> Yes. feel free to talk. >> Well, we we did talk about it before, but we never all the feedback I got was back to the original Tuesdays, but we did find the minutes when they did
Monday or something. Yeah Tuesday. >> Does that still work for everybody? Having it on Tuesdays work for me. You said in the previous meeting planning commission
services on Tuesday >> we got another it was cancelled for this too. Do they do those like on the second and fourth or could they do those like on first once a month? >> Once a month on a two day. So I feel like I said just a matter of
>> Yeah, that one should be pretty easy. >> I think I think they need >> the same library, >> right? Start in January 13th instead of 12.
Yeah, the 12th change will be starting January. Any other further discussion or questions um for moving the dates around? Hearing none, I'll ask for a motion to
approve the scheduling of the 2026 city council meetings to the second and fourth Tuesdays of each month at 5:30. >> Motion from councelor Matson. Is there a second? >> Second from councelor Jarva. All those in favor.
>> Any opposed? hearing none motion. Moving on to 11.3.4 agreement and this isformational. So >> yeah, that's informationational pulling back on right now as we speak. So um but that's a joint powers
agreement. So what this is the joint in front of you just like it's a joint powers agreement that would incorporate lakes into water project. I mean everything
but yeah it's it's in draft form I highly recommend impactful kind. >> Sure. So overall it's um the current changes have been reflective of the last year's worth of meetings and those joint meetings. So all the feedback that was
provided between uh the three parties was brought together with a lawyer and and that's what is in front of you is that the derivation of those conversations over the last nine months. So, >> oh, so this is maybe this is prepared by
I don't know such a >> Yeah, I'd like to pass hopefully it's going to be >> Luke mentioned at the meeting tonight that this may be postponed for a while. Yeah, because of that PFA fun
that the little snafu in the fun. So hopefully they get it sorted out million versus 5 million that we were supposed to get in question. So they think it might be more than definitive answer.
And will that change something about the agreement depending on >> I don't know if it'll change the agreement so much but it might >> you just said timing set timing tonight but
>> I think if it's not approved that >> look more Yeah because that was supposed to be our they took it as our >> buyin Mhm. >> Which likely will consume the part that
>> it's just going to change dynamics of >> you say we need one more member like like Josh or like >> Josh or I think it should be a voting member if you look in there super majority everybody has
>> it should Do you want to come suspended by something? But Josh is on Josh, but once you start voting, >> right? >> He seems like a good rep as far as at
that meeting. if you're voting on stuff feels like his knowledge would be >> there versus another council member. I just feel like >> Jake was Jake was the other >> member of the board there but my only thought
is that if you look at the makeup of the board Joshua's equivalent is not a member Joshua what equivalent is not a voting member? No, he's he's there attending it. They've got John Skelton who's on the town white board. Um
Dennis Shuy, he's not on the council at all. He's on the board. Dave Skelton is the accountant on the board. Um Doug Dreger being the mayor, he's on the water board. And they say that will change once everything gets set and they
they start actually running the place. >> They'll eventually get down to a three. Yeah. one for each >> once it's actually that's part of the verbage you have to change a three member board starting in June
next year I think we're going to go back to six things for now that can be a piece going into the new year when we lay out like what each committee council members on it.
>> Yeah. I don't know exactly when, but every year things like that. So, we can Yeah. >> Another committee assignment, >> right? That's kind of further discuss how everythingbody
add new ones or change things. So um we'll be holding off on this um agreement. Um then when we have to look at making decision we revisit itformational now but like said make sure read through
it um ideas questions changes >> you want to send a little copy yeah I'll send you a copy >> moving on to 11.4 4 2026 liquor license applications um pending receipt. I think Tam had mentioned that she did get all the
documents. Now um so I chatted with her um she explained that they don't usually put the information um regarding those in the packet because it includes things like tax ID numbers um insurance information different types of things. So whenever they um look for approving
liquid applications, they don't put those in the back. Sounds like they've gotten everything. So we're just looking for a motion to approve the 2026 applications
questions or comments you want to add. >> Yeah. Do it every year for all these places. We used to have bonds as well, right? They aren't renewing their last. >> I just wonder.
Any other comments or questions for that? I'll ask for a motion to approve the 2026 license applications. >> Motion from second from councelor Graham. All those in favor? I I opposed
hearing none motion to moving on to 11.5 make um permission to develop marketing materials for the general water project. >> Absolutely. Um so kind of in light of just the prior conversation we had too is uh with some of the funding being up
in the air a little bit uh there is still potential for a need for a like state or federal appropriation for the project to um we kind of talk about funding and finding what the funding packages pulled together. So bank like to have permission
to start building a marketing portfolio for the project. Uh we did this with the East Ranch Waterboard. Um, it's something that's no cost. It's part of what we do with the project. We like to formalize the request to make sure you guys have opportunity for input. Um, but what this is going to look like is we like to develop the story of the project
and the need ultimately what the funding gap's going to be. This information is to be leveraged by um anything that you'd like from internally and educating residents all the way up to requesting for uh state federal representatives to provide the context of what the project
is and the project need. What specifically we have in mind is we'd like to develop a bunch of one pagers on the project scope to develop marketing boards or poster boards that can be either displayed at different locations at conferences at uh state requests. Um
we can provide some of the officials that are heading to they get to the capital information that they can actually use. And lastly, we'd like to talk about developing some testimonial videos of what the water quality in the White Lakes is from the resident's perspective to kind of show and care
showcase that Kobe Lake water what that is versus what other opportunity could be with the embarrassed pit and use that to sell the story of why this project should be funded. So that's what we like to request permission is to move forward that market package and then we provide
it to you guys to review provide comment on um as we move forward. Yeah, I think it's a great idea. We have always have something ready to present if we're going to ever want to try to get money or educate the public. I think it's a good idea.
>> A motion to do just that. >> Uh so motion from councelor Jara to appeal to our materials for the east range waterboard expansion project. Second from councelor Matson. All those
in favor I >> opposed hearing none. Thank you. >> Yeah. Thank you. Um moving on to 11.6 budget and final le meeting schedule. So, we have a truth and taxation meeting
on December 8th at 6:30 p.m. Prior to that, like we get at least one more budget meeting scheduled, if not your calendar lines up, >> what time was that again on
>> 6:30 for some reason? It has to be a 630 statute or >> no should be done by >> our should now. So this might taxation be truthful but
apparently they go pretty quick in the past. A lot of them used to be really calm down quite a bit. So we have good participation. You're saying um longer budget meeting
the final final 27%. >> Oh, >> well, I think I put that in or before five working days after December 20th of >> Christmas to have it done.
>> So, yeah, I mean every Monday I'm available. So, >> so the 24th you're saying? So, stay at the 24th meeting. >> So, yeah. for that one.
>> I'm the 24th one earlier. That's Monday. Next Monday 24 >> and then giving you a couple weeks. So 24 by then
does the 21st 24th after council meeting work for everybody. I'll try to keep that agenda away. I need to call special. So, we're done with that. I believe that's
everything. I'll ask for a motion for make motion.