time that right now council meeting for Monday September 22nd roll please grass >> hereman >> here Scott here.
Thank you. Please stand for the pledge of allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for it stands one nation under indivisible with liberty and justice.
>> All righty, moving on to the consent. Has everybody had a chance to read through that? Any comments or any questions or anything in there? Um, hearing none, I'll ask for a motion to accept the consent
to accept the consent agenda as written. Is there a motion for that? >> I'll make that motion Graham. Second from Chara. All those in favor? I >> any hearing? None. Motion carried. Moving on to the guests and citizens
forum. Um we'll start with Jim on an update on a mountain bike trail. >> Okay. >> Hi, I'm Jim Ky. I'm a host here in White Lakes. I've been working on the mountain bike trail. The city manager and I dean had a meeting with two representatives
from Elite last week. Went very well. They want this to happen. They're, you know, they've been a joy to work with the people of Elite. They're great community partners. um they're approving of us using the property. Where they're at now is they said we're going to put together a
license agreement in the next couple weeks and send it here to the county, I mean to the city. And um assuming you guys are okay with it, you sign off on it and and we will. I'd like to start opening it up next spring. We should be
able to do that with about eight miles. And then what I'm hoping will happen is I know we have some people in the city who are entrepreneurs and I hope they will consider opening up businesses uh things like multimike rental, mult bike repair, coffee shops. I say that
because these are businesses that other small cities in northern Minnesota have started up and they've been very profitable. This whole operation is designed to bring revenue into town. Every small town in northern Minnesota that has opened a mountain bike trail
has reported that it's helped the business community tremendously. Um the other thing we need to do uh RB has a special grant program for trail building. It's a pot of money and um I've written it up to apply for $45,000.
I think we'll get it if we send it in. Now I can't send it in. The city has to send it in. and I've written up all the information on it and I'll send it Mr. Mayor to you and Mr. Wyber to you tonight after the meeting and if you can use it to fill in the blanks and send it
in. Again, um this is a limited amount of money. So, I don't think it's going to be around very long. So, the sooner we can send it in, the better our chances. We'll use that $45,000 to really enhance the mountain bike trail. We'll make it as good as any other trail
in northern Minnesota. Um, it's about all I had. If you have any questions, comments, >> that grant you're talking about, what what did it pay for? >> It's specifically for trail building. >> Just for the purpose of trail building.
>> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. >> Is it a matching grant then? >> No, no, no. It's it's so that it's 45. You don't have to do come up with anything. I have a budget prepared for what we would use it on. We go through it pretty fast these days, but um we'll
make some great enhancements to the trail. Now, the trail as it stands is fine. It's a good wilderness type trail. A lot of cities have something like that. Uh Bloomington, Minnesota has a large mountain bike trail that has no
fancy jumps or BMS or anything like that, and it's fine, but um this will enhance the trail if we get this grant. Would you be extending the mileage or just improving those? >> Improving the existing eight miles. Um,
a lot of people, my obsession with mountain bikers is that they they like a lot of junks, fancy junks. They like BMS that have curves in them, things like that. Um, you can buy those items pre-made online. So, I've gone through and I've already made a list of what we
would be getting with that. >> You know what the title of the grant? I think it's trail building. I I'll send it to you after see that for matching populations. >> Yeah, I know last year there was some
trails grants that the East Range applied for. But it was a matching grant. So unless they change their guidelines because it was matching this year. >> If you see if you see that in the grant application, let me know. But I read the whole thing. I didn't see anything about matching plans.
That would just be one thing we'd have to >> think of if it did matching then we'd have to figure out where that match would have come from. You do have to list it in the grant where your match is coming from. So we have discuss that.
>> Um and you said this is something that you would be building or doing the leg work or what is what is your >> Yeah. Yeah. It's strictly volunteer work. Uh I'm doing 99% of it. >> Um and then we would be the ones to
apply for the grant. >> Yeah. The city has to I you know I don't want anything to do with on the money with raming money and spending. Plus you'd have to be you know city to to do it or some sort of formal organization.
I just came up with the idea and I'm just doing the work. the money they would >> pass through. >> Um Joel, what does liability look like for like a private resident going building? >> Yeah, that's probably not appropriate
for the presentation meeting, but it's something that we could certainly look into. Um it's a fiduciary partnership. So the that that agreement would explicitly uh uh limit the city's liability and
function as that fiduciary make the application. It it really wouldn't um yeah it wouldn't be a joint ventury. So there's not a not a liability from that same point. for a more indepth analysis and the
answer to that. >> I know we've been the physical agent for the snowmobile club and different other groups where it's just a pass through, you know, we hold the funds and then you submit >> bills as they come and then we pay those bills out with the money we receive. So
I assume it's similar to that which we've done before others. >> Yeah, they're actually writing their own out too. Um >> yeah, they're 501 now before they were fiscal agent. >> Those are continuous continuing to maintain those once they're established
or reestablished. Um that is a concern for elite to borrow just spend some money travel and let people go. So that's Did you talk to the current trail club the sol? I talked to him this summer and um the board the
lady I talked to I don't recall her name said we're eager to partner with you on this. I've also updated them with some emails about this. Um I don't really expect anything from them. I don't need anything from them at this time. Um I
built a lot of trails um in the forest so I think I know what I'm building. Um any other questions or comments for um Jim? Um yeah the information
>> we'll look at it further and then um regarding official um steps taken forward but we have to agree to that or discuss that future. >> Great. Thank you. >> Perfect. Thank you. >> Thanks for your work.
>> All right. So, thank you to Jim for his update. Is there anybody else in the community that has any questions or comments for the um guest and citizens forum? Hearing nothing, we'll move on to reports from city staff. Uh city administrator Wyber. I really don't have
anything to report tonight. I just remind everybody we have our our budget meeting on Wednesday. We had a good ruling on our um resolution pass. So that might be a long meeting, but hopefully it goes
there. Um, yeah, that's all I have. >> Wednesday 4:30. >> All right. Thank you for that. Looks like just city attorney. >> I don't have anything tonight. >> Sound good. Thank you.
>> Next is reports from elected officials. Councelor Grahams. Nothing to report. Thanks. >> All right. Moving on to councelor Jera. >> Do for me. Yeah, [Music] >> sorry.
>> I apologize. >> Moving on to councelor Eman. Um, I actually was in contact with the people that do Msabi Trail and I asked like how far or what's the progress of that? Because I remember
Becky bringing it up before about them continuing Msabi Trail all the way through White Lakes and they said yes, it's still a goal. It will be done by next year. The grant is expires in 2026.
Um, there's actually a trail meeting next Monday at 2 that she invited me to about the importance of trails. I cannot go, but if anybody else wants to go, I can forward you that information. Next, what was it? Monday at two.
>> You want to show to Tammy or Dean and then >> I can Who's who can attend that then? >> Anybody? It was just um once said it was a just a meeting about the importance of trails to communities and things like that. So I mean that kind of goes with
Jim's thing. I mean if >> Yeah, >> we do have the trail come through increases the bikers and stuff. >> They did start on Steven's Chambers. >> Yeah, they said it would go through Steven Chambers too. So it would kind of wrap around and Stephen Chambers that
trail like Oh, good. But that's it. Glad to hear some good updates for that too. Thank you, councelor Matson. >> Nothing for me. >> Nothing from you. Okay. Mean um as some of the residents may
have seen on the city's post from earlier today, uh the demolition of the B school is underway. Um it will be occurring over the next six weeks or so. Um, so Dean, Tammy, and I visited the site and spoke with the bike workers there. Um, it doesn't sound like they
mind if residents observe some of their work as long as they're not um coming off of the site and disrupting any sort of work. Um, residents should make sure that they're exercising caution um not going past any sort of um barricades or the sidewalks up there. Um, and then in
a couple of weeks, Dean and I um will be meeting with Irv staff in St. Louis County um to discuss some next steps for that site looking at hopefully the city getting um ownership of that we'll see what comes of that. So that's in a
couple of weeks. Um secondly um I attended the Rams range mayor's meeting last week. Um they discussed the MPCAS, the Minnesota Pollution Control Agency's um recent draft permits um for like the
KAC um work that they're doing currently um and having them requiring them to have some sulfate standards of 10 milligrams of sulfate per liter. kind of explained um how things like this go through and are in force um have a
pretty big negative impact um not only on the mining industry but for all of the communities on the iron range. Um so on my end I signed on to a letter um being sent to the NCA um expressing concerns along with the other Randy mayors and then I also sent them an
email concern so um that all relates to the QTA permit. So that's it for me on mine. Um and then we're moving on to old business 10.1 um Verizon cell tower
reliability agreement. Um, do you mind speaking to that? Sure. >> So, it's been a while since we talked about this and we got it in the budget. So, I kind of put it on the back. He did reach out to me this week or last week and I got the one I talked about a
little bit give Joel a copy so we can review it from a legal standpoint and I believe he knows that. Um, so a little comparison. So, they're offering five, this is a freestanding tower. We talked about that and they're offering us $591 six of them a year. Um, American Tower
currently pays us 831 for their tower in the same location. And then T-Mobile and Smart Sky, they're also on that tower. T-Mobile is and they paid 560. So um I did email back I told that we
were doing right around that $850 to $900 a month currently with the current tower. So I would expect that we Verizon should be able to sing about perfect. >> Yeah. So it's up to is it earmarked or
anything special or just general fun just general thought. So yeah, so if you guys do decide or when we decide I'll move forward, all I need is the dollar from you and then Joel and I can take them all around those because it's just
kind of or we find language in there that we don't like. So, one thing I wanted to make sure that Joel's aware of and I haven't read it completely thoroughly enough yet, but um if they gain more gear on the existing tower, that's why paying us in addition
to it. So I would launch that same agreement and here we can move forward so that somebody else comes in against some of their equipment in antennas or whatever independently >> that would be my recommendation
>> and then I see that it says each year that it'll go up 2% >> is that like that would be other the original cell tower. It might have been when it was down treatment plant. I think it was
3251. So creep up. My opinion was 5 yards over their leg. But I don't very comfortable coming back. And it does take up a smaller footprint because there's no guide. So it's it's
maintained. So it's not 660 ft by 660. just a small little for them to give you a response to your initial discussion over the convision.
[Music] So >> how long with the other ones like I see here four five year terms
>> I believe the other was 10 years this is >> yeah automatically extended for four additional fiveyear terms unless either party >> yeah either party wants to terminate it but either one does it scrolls over
four times. 20 >> which is I'm fine but I just wanted to make sure that wasn't something% for your >> Yeah it's anniversary >> and you can see where I think it's like looks like they do carry their own
insurance falls not on the city they carry their own Sure. So, >> you just have to grab just the only things I I noticed that point out
with that discussion. Is there anybody that wants to take any sort of formal action with this or just um waiting for the go read through it and then wait for to get that response or wait until [Music]
>> um so I'll just chop this up as discussion. Is that okay if we just consider this discussion? Yeah, I I would wait. Um, right now it allows uh the company doing business as Verizon to add communications equipment to the
power structure without any addition. you want to make it like that require and there's a few other things that I yeah I prefer this little chance to
read better have that as discussion um and then in the meantime too and myself we can read through um read through this land based agreement and if we see things that we would want change or things you bring up with the Verizon
folks just send just send that to the via email we're talking about. >> All right, we'll mark that up as discussion. Um, moving on to new business 11.1 approval re resolution 202527
to accept a 4,180 um let's just be donation um from Blue Line Club. Um it looks like it's for rubber matting at the arena. Um anything
special? I think yeah spoke with them um just finding different for the arena to make some money rather than the city having to spend money on certain things. That sounded like he was able to get some money from the blue. So um we'll just
need a motion to accept this donation from the So we have a motion from councelor Ja. Is there a second? >> Second. >> We have a second from councelor Matson. All those in favor I
>> any opposed hearing none motion carried. Moving on to 112 bingo application for the lakes water carnival. Um pretty standard. Um whenever an organization wants to do bingo um they have any risk document
which looks pretty similar to the ones we've done in the past. Um any comments or questions for that? Um hearing none, I'll ask for a motion to approve this application. So >> I have a question. >> Yes. >> Is this is this a past one? This is July
26, 27th, 2025. >> It said list the dates that bingo was conducted during the year. >> Okay. Yeah. >> Like we did it over the water carnival event itself. >> Oh, so this one's for November 15. You only get four permits four days a year. So they just want to make sure they're
giving you the right amount of birds. >> So where is this one set up for sheriff? >> Uh they reserve the arena to do burgers and a craft fair and baker. Okay. November 15th. >> All right. Any other comments or
questions for the 250? >> All right. Hearing none, I'll ask one motion to approve or accept the application to that. I'll make that motion. >> Motion from council Matson. Is there a second? A second. Second from councelor
Eman. All those in favor? I hear none. Motion. Moving on to 11:23 ordinance discussion. Um so I had been emailed by a resident. Um look for that.
Um, but they had mentioned that there had a neighbor that was doing like garage sales consistently over a period of time. It was annoying. That's kind of the gist of it. So in the back I just grabbed a couple
off and I just throw things or not. Of course, enforcement's always going to be an issue if you do a new one. >> Who's going to enforce this? Like, you keep track. You had you had one three
months ago. Can't have another. >> Don't ask me to do it. >> No, I mean, I get it. May be a concern, you know, for someone if they have a neighbor that's constantly doing it. I just I don't know if I feel like it might be kind of micromanaging if we're
starting to limit it, but I mean if it's something that we want, I just these examples you gave knowing that we always do the citywide mail. The chamber hosts a citywide sale and we usually do that. We're trying to do it twice a year and it's usually three day like Friday,
Saturday, Sunday or Thursday, Friday, Saturday people have sales. So some of these say no more than um two a year, no more lasting no more than you know 48 hours. You can't have advertising more than 24 hours before. Like some of these
in the examples seem a little harsh, a little strict, but if it is something we need to look at, I would I mean I think we could maybe move some of these when you could have, you know, maybe six in a year, four in a year or something.
Somebody's just say, you know, one or two seems >> ridiculous, >> especially with Yeah. as a chimber we try to host two anyway during the year and then if people during the summer we'll have to do a couple you know or you're moving and you want to do a moving sale you know for a couple
weekends >> so I if it is something we want to have ordinance for I think maybe be a little more lenient than some of these examples show and then you have to get a a license from a city to have one seems a little deep I mean there could be an
ordinance saying you know certain times or certain lengths of time that you can do it, but I don't know about having to pay to have a garage sale. Some of this seems >> to be hundreds in town.
>> I mean, yeah, sales people, but it's there's some areas of county that there are people that are set up for permanent garage sales and I can understand, well, that could be disruptive to the neighboring property. They don't have people >> parking.
How much of a problem is this on this particular incident? >> Right. I'm not sure if there's been I do know of one household that does pretty much a permanent garage sale. I don't know if that's a problem in that neighborhood or not. I don't live in that neighborhood. So, I can't speak to
if it is with parking or there stuff always being out in the yard. I'm not sure if that is a a problem, but I think >> that was a concern was parking and blocking the hydrates or something like that. >> Yeah, I just wasn't quite sure. >> I mean, parking in front of hydrant is
organs in itself. I mean, whether you have or not, that's, you know, in violation. Don't >> I think I'm sure there was one other time when somebody else brought up garage sales and at that point it didn't
sound like when I we brought everyone we discussed it um it wasn't like the widespread issue where they were not [Music] >> we had it to like one of the public forums and say hey you want to talk
about garage sales if you're happy you know then people can come and Okay. To see if there are more garage sales. >> Yeah, good idea. I think that's a good idea. >> Uh, so email I've gotten, um, how can I
go about introducing or suggesting ordinance proging the amount of time and frequency a household can have yard or garage sales. Our neighbor has been having um, one every day, all day. We're going on three weeks. um people parking their driveway, blocking them in, which
is an early issue. I think there's another saying people. >> Yeah. Unfortunately, it's kind of common sense not to block someone's driveway, but it happens if they call the
non-emergency number and say, "Hey." >> Oh, yeah. There's the other email. Um, so this I pulled out a little note to put it on the agenda. They sent that one to being or tried to Mrs. Lis initially
sent me uh neighbor several sales during summer for weeks at a time. Um, disruptive neighborhood with excessive noise. Again, people blocking in the driveway park in front of the fire judgement
set of hours and seven days a week go on a week go on a week long. So that was Yeah, they reached out and asked that we have an agenda. So that's why bringing that. Um, yeah, I think it'd be smart to put it on public forum
just to see if people have different ideas or maybe more people are having problems with them, >> right? >> Um, yeah, I think you included these ones as just the examples a current or
I couldn't find. So, >> we had some good discussion on that. Anything else that people um would like to talk about or share questions regarding that? Hearing none, we can move on. So yeah,
no sort of um motions with that. We just wanted to have some in the public forum. >> The next end of October, >> we find there is a lot of concern. we probably have until spring to make sure
we have that in place if we if we need anything. >> All right. So that was just discussion. I mean I put that on public meeting over so moving on to the last part of the
agenda 11.4 joint amendment and agreement. Um I think Bren Dean Mel and
>> um [Music] >> so that's what this is about. Um, do you mind giving just a brief overview or something? >> No, just this was before Mike and so in the past it was a $35,000 hour um annual
transfer from the ambulance fund to the general fund and every year during the audit would reverse it and then put it back where it's supposed to be. So we just struck that language out from the ambulance agreement. So yeah, my understanding got money out
of the ambulance fund couldn't do that. So at the end of the year, she'll be hers at the end of the year. >> Yeah, it's really it's the same money. It just went from two different gener.
>> So now instead it goes by monthly. >> No, it's just tricking everything over. So this is what we came up for service contributes and then we just had a straight battle for big.
Yeah, I would assume that that I mean just early last year, but then changes and I got up all the stuff. [Music] So yeah, just being sent to the three different cities to
sign up now at this point of this budget and work and the grace shy any other um comments or questions regarding um this change updated
agreement hearing. Now, I'll ask a motion to um approve the signing of the ambulance service. So, motion from councelor Ja. Is there a second? >> Second. Second from councelor Grant. All those in favor? Any opposed?
Um I'll abain to Um all right carried with that. Um then nothing else is on the agenda for tonight. So we'll move towards a chairman. Is there any motion for that? Is there a second?
>> Second. >> Second council. All in favor? I >> I completely imposed hearing none here.