picture before we start. It's a fairly short agenda. Um, so we can do it either or like the whole thing. >> Oh, perfect. We'll do it after. >> All right.
So almost like couple minutes. Come on. have question of this meeting Tonight there we Monday, November 24th >> here. >> Here's
the space for moving on to the consent. Everybody had a chance to read through that. Any comments or questions? Hearing none, I'll ask for a motion to approve
the consent agenda. Motion from council me. All those in favor hearing none. Moving on to the guest and citizens forum. We do have a guest today
from the municipality. Um I think give a little presentation. Um feel free to sit or stand down at the podium. Whatever you would like. Thanks everybody. Thank you mayor
council. My name is Paul the executive director of Rams the range association municipalities and pool. Thanks for allowing me to be here tonight to kind of walk you through some of the things Rams is doing right now as well as most importantly some of what the concerns of the city.
So um during this time I'll be speaking a little bit about what we're up to at RAM. um how it affects the technical assistance area and what issues are on people's minds. all the whole time I'd like you to think about what you would like me to know about what's going on in what takes before I leave you engage in
a small um as many of you know Rams was founded in 1939 when a group of mayors decided to push back against the mining company taking local wealth from our communities in the form of that or not paying their fair share from cities and school
districts from which they took that or um we are the vanguards of the production tax we protect it beneficial use within the bounds of the assistance area and we do our best to stop those to take it outside of our area and use it for their own case point. Two years ago there was a senator
from a place not here who decided to try and unilaterally expand the assistance area with the help of the range delegation and we opened the channel for that person as well as our legislative partners at the state level and then fought off against that and the bill. So that would be one aspect of what does
protect. The second thing is as we help grow our membership and grow their knowledge on certain topics whether it's brownfields whether it's engagement on the sulfate standard as well production whether it's um protecting the critical infrastructure that's necessary to grow
our mining footprint as a region. We make sure that we have a channel of communication open with our statewide decision makers so that we can have a seat at the table. And without that seat at the table, the range is on the menu. And so we know that we're better together than in small little units,
which is why we work together. And what does that look like? 71 local units of government, cities, townships, and school districts working together all in this seven county region from Aken County up to Cook County and everywhere in between. But tonight I want to talk about why Ramis is so special. It's
because we have a board of 24 members who are elected officials from all those different municipalities and school districts. They come from all over the D9 assistance area. They get together once a month. We talk about the issues of the day. We take action and we set an agenda for the future. One of those
items that we set as an agenda for the future is our legislative priority. So as you're thinking what can Ram do to be helpful to the city of Point Lakes? Are there legislative fix? Are there blight things? Are there path issues that are still ongoing from that legacy of the priority? We also know that seasonal
rack replacement. We're very hopeful for your school district tonight, but we do all live within the super school district and the super county. So as county program is maybe reduced at the state level that affects them. We all live within that too,
right? So we also even though it's time we find our direct way we fight for that sustainable local government aid. What would your budgets be like if we didn't have local government a would it be a problem? Would you be able to cope? What's that conversation look like? How are we able to educate our statewide
legislators not just here statewide about the importance of what we do in this region and why we need to protect that? Why everyone as a state making sure is strong. So um we have a board of 24. I've included some information. Thank you to Brennan for emailing that
out to you guys. I really do appreciate that. I don't expect you to have read it all. I certainly don't. But just know that I'm here if you need anything from me. Um my phone number is 2184311317. If you have business cards to leave with you before I go, as well as a small
notebook, you can put the naughty list on it for Christmas or the nice list. Whatever you want, or the grocery list, doesn't matter. Yours to do with that you will. Um, but our members are spread throughout the tacketite assistance area and we try to have geographic uh balance to all of those things because having a
network of board members means I can pick up the phone at any time and find out what's going on in almost any degree. That's pretty cool because I can't be everywhere even though I do my best to try and get around as much as I can. There are limits but having a network of friends and helpers is the
best. um 2750 31 county 15 school district a lot of members how do you keep everybody happy when you can't find your job right not my job is to provide a forum for them to talk about their issues so they can educate one another so if you know what's going on in the
city of Virginia or grand ramps or e or in school district you're a better informed local understand what's going on in these other groups so if you have any questions about how you can engage with grants One of the first things I would ask you to do is to um get subscribed to the
random newsletter. We send out a newsletter once every two weeks. Hopefully, if you are not getting that, you can access that from your mayor sign up link. And one of the things that we're going to keep doing is we're going to keep meeting with the mayors. Mayor Scott has been a member attending our mayor's meeting. So, he's an engaged
mayor and your city is well served by that engagement. Um there's no professional development group for mayors under but provides that and so one of the things that you can also do is say what if you have an interest in brownfield remediation do you have a site within the city of P that you'd
like to pick up does it have dirty dirt does it need a phase one a phase two or rack if you're interested in things like that come some of our brownfield events whether it's a virtual brownfield that we're hosting like tomorrow at noon uh online or if it's an inerson one we have one in Virginia and in heavy we'll have
one uh in January in Elely and then we'll follow up in February in Ren. So if this community would like to host a brownfield event we can highlight some of the work that's going on in this community as well to be open to that conversation with your administrator officials as well. So what we're doing
is we're raising up the knowledge base for our local officials that sometimes see over the churn that they have a person that's new to the position or new to the scope and they kind of lose some of that institutional memory. That's not the same in everyone. Sometimes you have
a rockar and they're really great at it. That might be person or you have done. So what you do when you need that help come your own find a network we will connect to you we can help that as much
as we can you all else will have your own network so don't underinstitute the power of bureau we host a housing meet up every Monday at 9:30 a.m. critical aiding and housing professionals from all around the region get together whether they're a funer from the RB municipal housing or private
philanthropy or city officials working in the municipal space from private lenders and private developers they're at that conversational table this is just some of the things that RAM has to offer I'd also like to throw out there that we have our annual dinner coming up on December 9th my hope is that you will
come and attend as our guests it's free to you as members of RAM held at Iron Trail Waters Event Center starting at the dinner starts at 2:30. So at 5. So all that being said, one of the big areas of focus work that we have had is around sulfate standard for waters used
for the production of wild rice. We know that that has been a very standard for producers. It directly impacts the amount of capital you receive. If there is no production, there is no production. Currently, the city of Quicks received $672,000
in packet production. Rightfully so, this area has been well served by mining for a very long time. So, we want to protect the beneficial use continued benefici. last year for that. You know that levies are difficult conversation whether whatever doesn't matter what level of
municipal government you're at school district, city, county, county, it's all a very difficult conversation right under. So anything we can do to alleviate those pressures and protect those beneficial resources for you, we are going to do that. Um, again, my goal
here is to tell you a little bit about what we do, offer some context to some of the programming that we have, as well as just let you know that I will be here and I am here for you. You can always reach out to me at any time. I might as well have my phone number tattooed on my forehead because everybody's never
sister. So, um, again, I'll have cards as well as a little notepad for you so you can write some notes or whatever. But I'd like to just open it up to you and say thank you for letting me be here. what can Rams and I do to be of service. >> Uh yeah, thank you for for coming and
sharing your information. Um I mean recently with the the key and I think that was very important to the region. So I think continuing to mining efforts all that that's really important. We know that
it's going to impact municipal waste water. Um so that um we've joined in with Aurora and the Helen White with our east water project pretty big thing. So piece of that like bonding funding for
different projects like that is very important going in the next couple years probably and things fund but for different projects like that infrastructure program
important. um recently went quickly um like >> yeah concern with that even >> yeah
with that having smaller department be able to have enough staff everyone behind >> what communication has been read from state decision makers on from all the problems that you've been facing. >> Um, I don't think you've gotten too far
into speaking with any state. Um, I don't think it's been implemented long enough to be running too many issues, but there's concern for the issues with that.
This portability component, implementation component, all of the above. Those are the big ones that pop up to me. Um, you do a good job of keeping in contact
with Sydney and school. They know what the issues are in the community. Is there anything else that anybody else has specific wise that you wanted to make sure Paul addresses or you did mention?
Were you aware of what was going on? >> No. Could you be more specific? >> I mean, are you talking about how the sulfate stand or is there another uh city of Point Lakes joining the trans
water board? Um water be sourced from a different lake than the one here in town. It's going to make for cleaner waste water. One thing I don't know where they're at and Kenny would probably have an idea of where the water
is on the wastewater town with our current water source, but I guess right now the concern would be funding with what's going on funding the expansion. >> Yeah. I mean, it's we're talking a lot of money. I didn't know if you were
aware of it or or the board had involved you in it or at any point in time. I don't know if funding is available through you or if nothing else support with the legislation for that. I don't know what's been
reached out. I'm I'm playing catchup myself here on the on on the board since last summer. It's a learning experience. So I'm always interested to learn more about what what the effect is in the municipality, how that change
needs to be paid for or navigated. So >> that's the big thing and there's a lot of talk on the affordability factors and what we're going to have to charge people for the new water system once it's up and running for drawing on that.
be happy to follow together like Virginia I was saying issues probably. Anybody have anything else for Paul? Any questions, comments, or email?
Yeah, that's all I had. We have our contact information and make sure that you appreciate it. I'll stick around. Sorry, I didn't listen to the council meeting and at the end if it's okay with you, I can take a picture
in everybody. We'll follow our guest. Is there anybody else um citizen wise that has any um comments that they'd like to make? Hearing none, we'll move on to a report from city staff.
Recreation director director. Uh, three quick things. Uh, Monday the 10th, we had our first waterfall break of the year. um a little bit earlier than normal. Normally we start getting them this time of year within a week of Thanksgiving. Uh went
well as good as they can finish it up that day. Um I just want to remind residents uh there was an ad posted in the paper about removing items from your curb line or the boulevard. Um I as I drive around town I still know
people have basketball hoops out and several other things that you can slide in a back year and we go around and try and find street. Um, we don't mind them being out in the summertime or through fall, but this time of year they've got a leakage. And
then just a quick update on the uh St. Louis County Road project through down here. Uh, Kennedy Drive is pretty much wrapped up. As you can see, the street lights uh were lit last Friday. That pretty much wraps up Kennedy Drive.
Kensington or 665 had a little bit of landscaping left to do. They ran out of time this season. So the county gave grace to North Lincoln structures to come back and finish it in the spring. They did put some hydro seating on it. Vinyl means is
that the final grade or final product that is the there will be thumb saw and hydro seated done in spring as well as the bike trail along. Um the black coffee crew did not finish the area between the head ramps and the
trail itself. Um, so we fill those in with crab just to avoid trick hazard, make it easier for us to follow and be done. >> Kenny, I've got two dumb questions for you. >> Well, the first one is watermelon.
What caused that to the earth? If I had an answer for that, I don't know that we'd have it. But, uh, what I generally see more than anything, it's not always the frost or the extreme cold weather. What I see normally breaks is a
shift in when you start to see like a 50° temperatures. care. Are you talking >> believe it or not? >> It actually is enough to shift the ground and >> so like in the winter time I always get nervous when it goes from 20 below to 30
above. Just about know that rain or thing this time of year now. Yeah. By no means was it frost. There was no fro associated with this at all. But the ground I don't know what it is about it. That's the only thing I can make in their tales
of when we get water. It's not uncommon this time of year. Last year, I think we had our first one. The other one was up in the northeast corner of the field, right across from the snowmobile.
>> Yeah. >> Rooming trail building. Have they left that hoop of dirt there? stuff that's going to be pulled out or it's probably staying there for the year. I tried getting that as well. >> Okay. >> I I think that's the the remainder of the dirt that needs to be placed before
landscaping or before like they hauled it in, but they didn't get the project. >> Makes it look like it's there to stay. >> Kids are going to be jumping in. I'm guessing. But yeah, I'm I'm still trying to get an answer as to whether or not
it's or if they're going to come get it or it's going to freeze there and they'll be there all I prefer. It's not trying to get an answer on that as well. >> Don't thank you. >> All right. Thank you, Kenny.
Homestead. Um the new ambulance came Saturday afternoon. It's not radio. City attorney. >> Thanks, Mayor. I don't
report from elected officials. >> Nothing to report tonight. >> I have nothing tonight. Um, I just want to remind people that party in summer 17
and the free community. Thank you. uh Sherry and I dean and some other folks from the city had attended um a closing meeting with the North Development Company. Um they have that fun each color, right?
>> Um and they just provided um information on kind of how things could be funded um what the housing needs are, what their recommendations are. That'll be process over the next year.
We'll continue meeting with them. Um potentially looking at building some housing here, you know, like um the folks that have reached out to me about what their concerns are and what they want in the city. Um I provided those to
the development. So they know that other than that moving along nothing. So moving on to a new visit 11.1 American power 50-year lease agreement offer. Um you mind that at me?
>> Sure. So American college this is this is not the college this is the college. So they reached out as you can see they're offering a 50year prepaid um offer in the city of white lakes on
one time lump sum payment of 235,000 forments of $2,300. On the back side of this, you can see we're currently in a 20-year contract power and I think we're year
number four or five into it for 20 year lease agreement with them. The grand total comes out to 224,000. So they're offering us 50 lease for 230. the math doesn't
make sense but I just want to get that question. Yeah. Is that the power that way? >> Yeah. How how many feet awake
this months. >> So this year $56 now is 50 years or longer anymore, but again over a longer 2020
and what I think his name is Dave told me trying to go longer are pretty sens changing along the 20. Does anybody have any other thoughts or
opinions regarding um changing the either the lump sum of 235,000 or the same amount right? Yeah. It doesn't advance,
>> but you have used to the money right now. >> We just have to do other work and there's ways of figuring out what the future value of current, >> right? We get the money doesn't work, right?
I think there's a pretty strong consensus with that. Any other comments or questions regarding hearing none for a motion to deny this current offer
to motion counc I motion. And that is all we have for um for the new business. Um for one,
no. Right. >> So, I talked to you here recently about the file out of the recycle center, the wood file. I've been I've been approached again by members of fire department. Is
there any way and first off was regarding the cost of having a company come in and check out the pile and I know we used to burn it fire department used to burn this pile. Correct. And there's there's people in the fire department would like to start that
again to save the city that three to $5,000 we have to pay. Sure. I I looked into that as well when I took over in this role. That was my goal was to possibly start having it burned as well. And within the first year of my tenure
in this job, COVID happened and we were advised due to clean air quality or whatever, everybody was playing the finger again, not burning it. Now that's not no longer the case. They like to burn it. Um, but if you
remember back when we did burn it in the past, it used to be located across the road from where it is now. basically where the pilot chips is at from when they do ship it. >> Would you say across the road? >> Yeah. That that little loop that goes around the brush pile.
>> So, right now what they do is they set up on the road, they grind it and shoot it across the road into a pile. So, where the pile of chips is now, okay, that's where the brush pile used to be stacked. Um when we started this venture of grinding the brush pile, um the previous
public works director chose to have it moved and located for ease and to make room for the piles of kips that we were comp. Um when he moved the pile to its current location, he put it right on top of gas.
>> I'm trying to get a straight answer out of the gas company. How far away from the line we need? And I've got three different ends. I've got 25 ft. I've got 50 ft. And I've got 100. >> The heat put up by that 25 ft would be no good.
>> Okay. >> You know, it's for a fire in my backyard. That's what they tell. >> Yeah. So, anyhow, there is a gas line that runs from over by the bike trail corner across the property to the building that's out there and it goes
right along the edge of the brush. brush pile was moved. >> If the brush pile was moved, we could possibly burn it. So, >> I'm just in my minding what what their mind do was three to $5,000 to come in. >> Yeah. I've always thought it was very
chunky chain. >> Yeah. >> And the city could better spend that free training for them. Well, for sure, but no, there will be some clean up involved after we used to burn it.
>> It took two or three days of monitoring. >> Yep. And prepare themselves for the argument. People in town, if you'll notice when burns theirs or city of Virginia burns theirs, Facebook erupts and the papers and everything else with the smell.
So, be prepared to deal with that. You're going to have to play the wind. depends how big you probably >> correct. But then if it says in smolders for a week after and the wind switches direction back and I remember there were times that
happened. >> Well, people complain on this too many times. We'll move on to a motion for that. Thank all in favor.