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All right, 5:30 on the dot. I will call the regular city of White Lakes council meeting to order for Tuesday, June 9th. Roll call, please. >> Councilors Grimes >> here. >> Jardella >> here. >> Ecman >> here. >> Mat >> here. >> Mayor Scott >> here. >> Okay, everybody's here. >> All right, please stand for the pledge

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of allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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>> Moving on to the consent agenda. Has everybody had a chance to read through that? Any comments or questions or anything in there? Hearing nothing, I'll ask for a motion to approve the consent agenda as presented.

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>> Motion from councelor Jarville. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> Second from councelor Grahams. All those in favor? >> I. Any opposed? Hearing? None. Motion carried. Moving on to the guests and citizens forum. Is there anybody that wishes to speak or say anything?

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>> Hello everyone. Hello. >> So, I set this at Kaboo your places while you were not in. This was just kind of my starting out this year. Um, last year we had a lot of residents that were what's the ordinance? What's this? What's that? Kind of like when I was writing I'm still going to be writing

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the reports for you guys, but kind of like when I started writing the reports without the ordinance listed for you guys. So, I decided this year that I was going to start by sending out kind of a courtesy letter reminding people what blight is and what kind of things we're looking for. So I think my first round I

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sent out 23. So um and then I wanted to kind of proceed with the quite lakes cleanup this week. So I will start making rounds again after Thursday or Wednesday and see where we're standing. And if someone has already gotten this letter then we

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will proceed with regular blight ordinance um >> violation. >> Yeah, there we go. So, and then we'll And then people that have not got this letter, um, most of the people with all this going with all the clean up going

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on have I've seen piles. Let's just put it that way. So, hopefully they've cleaned out a lot. Um, so hopefully we won't have to use these letters anymore this year. Um, but if I have to and it's someone that hasn't got this letter, then they will get it as of Wednesday or Thursday. So, all right. And then

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another thing I am I've been talking to Dean and Tammy a little bit. Um, and I know Jill, you run the Facebook group. I want to try to get a volunteer group that has nothing to do with the city. Um, that would

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help. We have a lot of elderly in the in the community. We have people that last year we had a gentleman that had his lawnmower broke at the end of the year. He couldn't mow his grass. I would like to get a volunteer group that can help with these kind of situations. Obviously, it's not going to be an every week thing. It's not going to probably

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be even an every month thing. Me and my husband are willing to volunteer. I I would even be willing to be the point of contact on it. Whether it's children needing or high schoolers needing volunteer time or just people in the community that want to help. I've had a couple residents when they've called in with concerns say that they would be

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willing to help. All I need to do is reach out to them. But reason why I bring up you Jill is cuz you have a Facebook. So obviously with it not being city provided group or anything like that obviously just plain volunteer I'd like

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to put something on the Facebook um but could probably use the council's help with a little bit of wording so that we make sure that the people know that when they do volunteer it is has nothing to do with the city. So, if we could think about that and maybe get together next

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council meeting and um I will think about writing something up and we will go from there. >> All right. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. Thank you, Tamika. I think this little write up is a good good reminder and then um yeah, excellent idea with

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volunteering and helping some of the older folks get um that taken care of um maintaining. Uh any other guests or citizens that wish to speak? Nothing. So we will move on to reports

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from staff. City administrator city administrator Wyberg. Anything from you tonight? >> Uh nothing tonight. We're going to talk about stickers and garbage bags here in a little bit. >> Sounds good. Uh EMS Director Olmstead, anything from you?

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>> Okay. Uh city attorney Liki. >> Uh nothing from me. Thanks. >> All right. Moving on to reports from elected officials. Councelor Grahams. >> Uh nothing to report tonight. >> All right. Councelor Jarbala. The only thing I got is attended the East Range

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public safety board. Jill was there too. Talked about the uh new guy coming on. He's apparently passed his uh >> post >> post test. Thank you. Brain fart. uh passed his post test and also um he's

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working I guess as an intern right now and they're they're working on his drug test and uh they should have that soon and then he'll be full-time. Chief said that uh East Range PD is one of the lucky departments around here right now

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because they're almost close to full staff compared to Gilbert Eve Virginia and everybody else being short out here. That's about all I got. >> All right, some good news. Thank you. Counselor Ecman, anything from you? Um

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last week they did the library summer reading program kickoff. A lot of kids were there. Um, arts and crafts is going great after the first week, but that's about all I got. >> All right. Thank you, Councelor Mat. >> Nothing for me tonight.

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>> All right. And I don't have anything I think I have worth sharing. So, that was quick and easy. So, moving on to old business 10.1. >> Oh, >> garbage bag sticker mess around here. >> We don't mess around here.

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>> So, in Oh, go ahead. >> Yeah. So Dean, yeah, if you want to. >> So in your pack it we Jamie did most of this a while back, but um I tweaked it a little bit. So you're going to see the analysis of the stickers versus garbage bags and what it can how it can impact

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the city. And if Jamie wants to talk about it since he built it, I'd be appreciate it. Um >> Okay. So, but >> yeah. So, there's a three I add a little bit to Jamie's, but there's So, there's a three-month trial example and then the example if um

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if we realize all the cost savings or if we pass them on to the residents. So, >> okay. So, basically, if you're looking at that uh table that Dean worked on there, um the first two columns 2025 and

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2026 baseline. Okay. Okay. Um, basically we have the cost that the city pays for the bags >> in the first two rows and then we have what the city charges for the bags and then this is the volume of bags that we have every year approximately. Okay. And

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the whole difference between those two columns is the cell down there in blue on the bottom of 2026 baseline. And all you're going to see this difference in 2026 is that the residential tipping costs are going down because the county reduced their tipping fee by a crazy

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number, but it's like 26% or something like that. Crazy meaning it wasn't like a normal scent. It's like 45 44 55 now. But so there there's the savings that we're going to get. So from there on everything to the right, we're going to reference our 2026 baseline. Just okay.

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And basically the big deal here is that the bags that we use, small bags costs about 24 cents. Large bags cost about 33 cents. Whereas if we were going to buy a sticker that it would cost about 5 cents. So that's where the savings is.

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And and I think are people familiar with the background concept here, which is instead of requiring our citizens to buy a yellow bag, they would buy a sticker that they would put on their bag. Okay. Of presumably a bigger sticker for a big

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bag and a smaller sticker for a small bag, right? Same kind of concept because the sticker is going to be paying for the relative amount of waste that they're throwing away and waiting offset the tipping fees. And so that savings which is essentially you know 20ome

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cents a bag could come back into the city or we could use that to reduce or offset the you know the uh the the cost of the stickers to the citizens. And so what Dean has got there, a three-month

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trial, um is the next two columns over. If we use the same sticker price, we capture about $3,000 to the city in that savings of, you know, roughly around 20 cents a bag or something like that. If we reduce the cost, and that's kind of

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the line here, I don't know, I don't have row numbers here, but small sticker charge. Instead of charging 93 cents for a small bag, we charge 74 cents for a small bag. Or instead of charging a $1.40 for a large bag, we charge $112.

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And this just rough math. Then we break even. We don't lose any money. We re recoup all the money for tipping, etc. But the citizens pay a bit less for the bag. And then basically what that is is if you go to the farthest two columns, we're extrapolating that out. So, if we

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just go to stickers and um you know don't pass on these savings on the city uh you know benefits by $12,700, if we adjust the cost of the stickers down a little bit to you know we we we break even. I think the thing that we've

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heard from citizens historically is that um they don't like the concept that they many of them buy their own bag and then they put it in another plastic bag. I think that from my perspective um as the person who picks up the

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garbage bags, we don't know how well this is going to work. Okay? But it doesn't really cost us, you anybody to try 3 months and see what happens because it's just going to save some money anyhow. We still have the regular bags. We'll still pick up the bags as is

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and we can see how well it goes and decide, you know, what could happen. I don't know if that explains it enough to you. No, no, that's perfect. That's perfect. >> Sorry. >> Oh, that's good. >> I I've not done this with any other cities. I've talked to other cities about it. Quite lakes was kind of more

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progressive on this, more interested in seeing what we could do and and I I I think it could be really good. I mean, you know, there are the obvious concerns that are, okay, are the stickers going to fall off? Okay, we did price in 5 cent stickers which are not the cheapest

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stickers which means they have good adhesive and they are not least counterfeitable. I I can guarantee you there will be attempts. I I you know I just doesn't matter what city you're in. Um but we tried to address some of those things. Yes, you probably sell the

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stickers in 10 strip or something very similar to what we do now. I did get some I did reach out to one of the vendors and got an example of the stickers. The cheap the cheap ones, the uh >> ones >> coated paper ones. >> Yeah. Well,

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>> and Brandon couldn't he could not pull it off the bag. >> Yeah. Really? We don't need fancy stickers. We just need ones that, you know, we're going to >> should be should be pretty good, I think. But >> and I'd like them big enough that we can see them somewhat easily, you know,

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>> but I don't think that's going to be either. >> What's done to them to make them non-counterfeitable? >> Well, if you wanted to make them non-counterfeit, there's some very you can do with the material of the sticker. You could make them a myar sticker instead of just unprinted. Probably we

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would use some type of printing, maybe a coated print. I I don't I didn't talk with Dean or whatever. We'd probably do something you could just generate on your own Cricut machine or a printer or something like that, you know. >> So the

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you could put holograms in if you wanted, but you know that starts getting more and more expensive where I don't get much valid return. >> Yeah, it's kind of on this this page here, Dave, with the comparison. >> Uhhuh. >> I think it's the last page. >> So that was the options that you

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Honestly, I would not go too high tech on this cuz we'll know if it is legit or not. Probably at least for the test because >> my opinion is the people that are

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throwing the bags in the dumpsters that that are not city bags are are the only ones that probably cheat. We have people that take a city bag, cut it into quarters, tie it around their regular bag so we think it's a real bag. You know, there's a lot of creativity out there. Let me tell you, we're not going

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to beat the creativity. But >> but yeah, I know it's mindboggling. >> Seems like a lot of work and thought to say >> they literally cut the bags apart.

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cut it into quarters or eight >> and then it's always a discussion when we don't take it. >> Well, I know from my time on the council the I mean, no one likes the their utility bill as it is, but the discussion of the garbage bags seem to have stemmed from the waste, the quality

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of the bags, you know, why are we using these? So, it didn't necessarily start as a cost-saving discussion. Um, so I would be in favor of trying it for sure. I would entertain the discussion of having the city recouping

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the savings on this for the time being because I know we've dipped into our reserves a lot by not raising the fee on the um enterprise funds over the years. So, I'd like to see that replenished with the new water project coming up. That's going to be at a cost. And so in

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my mind, I would like the the city to maybe recoup these savings for now and especially until we get this water project funding figured out cuz if it's going to be inevitable to raise someone's garbage fee, I would hate to lower it for a year or two and then

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increase it again and have that whole discussion. Um, but that's kind of my my thoughts on as far as the savings that we're going to see on this. >> There'll be additional savings, too.

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Depends on what kind of bags they buy. But if they go to like Costco or something and buy a,000 roll or 500 roll, they're they're cheap. They're not very expensive. So, there's savings on that side a little bit, too. >> I did, but I didn't include it here.

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There's there's an offset there too. >> Yeah. So, >> I think this is an interesting year because of what the county is doing. And is that a change that's going to stay or is that every year the county readjusts those

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>> what happened this year is that the county decided to let other counties dump in our landfill or in the original one. So then they readjusted the price down which results in about a $7,000

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improvement something like that per year in the profitability or the the bottom line for garbage having nothing to do with stickers at all for the city. >> Okay. and and and as you you probably

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can see I think you know in general Lakes is an interesting city because Hoy Lakes has a fully staffed recycling center and they do some more recycling than a lot of places. So it's it's not easy for me to understand all of your costs. >> Mhm. And this helps pay for that as

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well. >> Yep. Exactly. That's what I mean. They don't stop like other places. >> Dumb question. >> No questions dumb. >> Well, >> except for this one. >> Regarding the bags, if if we don't if we

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try the stickers and it doesn't pan out, decide to go back to the bags. Is there any thing that can be done to order the bags either either as on a roll or fold it up separately? The way it is now, when you get the bags home, you got to open that bag up, pull all of them out,

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and fold them up separately because they're all together, and you can't pull them apart. >> They used to come in rolls. >> Yeah, we used to get them in a roll, a perfect >> I understand that. But it just from the company that the city buys them from, it'd be nice to see

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them if they could come on a roll like they used to or folded up and stacked separately in that bag cuz you got to pull them all apart and refold them. >> Yeah, I'm not a 100% sure, but I can look into it. I I know from where I was in the past, I think the city councilors

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would unroll them and put them into packs of 10. They came the same way. And then we they we had volunteers or whatever put them into rolls >> before they sold them. >> Yeah. >> I wouldn't want to do that.

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>> My guess is really in there and roll maybe you wouldn't have your cost up. I think that all these companies and I'm working with Betsy right now on our current bags. I think they're doing a lot of things to

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save cost. We're taking advant of, >> meaning us people who buy the bags. So, >> well, it could well be. I wouldn't want to be the one to roll them up, but it's just they used to come roll in rolls and now when you open the bag, you got >> Yeah. No, I disassemble them, fold them

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back up, get your I get your point. I guess what what I'm getting at, I'll say it more succinctly. I believe that the the companies that supply bags, not just to lakes, but to everybody, are doing things to reduce their cost and have been, whether it's in our best interest

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or not. And so if we want something different, I imagine they're going to charge more. But it's something I think that between them right now, we can ask and figure out, well, if we want the role, what is that going to be

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>> for cost? >> Yeah. And I can I can do a little background too. So and see what how long ago were they in in rolls. Are we talking years ago or >> it's been a while. >> Yeah, >> quite a few years. >> Okay. I'll find out. You know, it could have been recycles.

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>> If we go back to that, it'd be nice to know if that's the way. I don't want to do it if they're going to charge us 50 cents extra a bag. >> Yeah. But >> good check. >> Like when you order graffle tickets, you if you want them stapled together, you pay more or you staple them in 10

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yourself. >> They they're trying to save money, so sometimes there's a little more work for the person buying it on the end. >> Yeah. But if the sticker work, Dave, you could buy your bags in a roll and

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>> um so I think for sure looking at um the 3-month trial period rather than just 100% going to stickers and then them not working would >> and I'm if I get any input at all, I would say we do not suspend

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>> the current system at all. They got bags in inventory, people left bags. We're just saying, hey, here's an option for people who want, you know, a shared point out, you know, excuse me. You know, the people who thought that, you know, they want to use their own bags because they buy them already in their

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>> um and it sounds like keeping those the same price. Um and then in the future if we do look at fully reverting or going over to the stickers or um doing half and half um we could look at um reducing

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the prices on those in the future. Um and then material-wise does anybody on the council have a preference or Jamie do you have a recommendation um with the >> So I think once you all say hey this is what you want to do then I think DNI

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should knuckle down and get some samples. And I've not seen any samples. You may have some samples. >> Yeah, I have some samples. >> We'll figure out what a decent way to start is to give it a try. >> I guess there's going to be minimal. There's going to be all sorts of beauty things. It's a 3 month trial. Want to give it a try and see what happens.

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>> Yeah. Um yeah, the the adhesion part is just the only part. I wouldn't want to get too cheap to where they would just fall off or rip off easy. So, just the adhesion piece of it would be more important than the copying piece to me. So, >> so the company I went with um or got the

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s excuse me got the samples from was from Massachusetts I think and um she guaranteed it to 40 below or better if it's not going to fall off because that was one of my concerns. He's put a sticker on a ice cold bag. Is it going to stick or not? But

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but that was the cheapest sticker. That was this one right here. And I wouldn't mind looking at the mileer one if it is more like in the seven cent range just because it is harder to copy and easy to identify. But depending on pricing too. >> So I think we can do that. But here's

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the beauty, right? We're going to do this for 3 months. >> Mhm. >> And we're going to see >> what the heck happens. Right. And >> even though it's a 3mon trial, I mean, I don't expect us picking people picking it up to say in December if somebody had

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one left over, we're not going to pick theirs up, right? So, I mean, it it's a 3-mon trial, which I think is a good thing, but we're not going to we're not going to let people be stranded with a bunch of stickers or a bunch of bags, right? So, we'll get a little bit of data on this and then we can see council

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where we should go to higher security stuff or higher sticky stuff or whatever. I don't think we have a problem with stick penis either from what I've seen. So, now obviously if the bag has been sitting out in the rain and then you go out front, that's probably not going to

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work. But I would suspect that that would not be a normal use case, nor should it be a use case, >> right? >> Um worried about your bags out in the rain. Stick around first. >> I guess my point of view here, what I'm

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going to say is obviously I love the fact that we're going to give it a try. Um I'm fine with leaving, as Sher was saying, the price sticking with the city for now, leaving the prices the same. I do hope that if we do go to stickers full-time, though, I would rather see the price change go to the citizens than

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the city. If we're arguing over $12,000, I think that should go back to the citizens of the city, not necessarily in the city's pocket. So, I do disagree with that statement, but for the trial, I'm fine if we want to leave it the same, whatever. But I think in the long run, not only I have heard people talk

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about the fact that they dislike paying for another service while they're already buying bags, so now you're buying a sticker. Same thing. But either way, I think the savings should go to the citizens if we have it. So, um, are you looking for a motion

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>> a direction? Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So, cuz if I'm going to order stickers and we're going to move forward, then then we're going to have to design them. And you you mentioned a small and a big sticker. I didn't even think of that. I was thinking of different colors, but Yeah. >> I don't Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I'm happy to have them all be the same size. Whatever. That's why I said we got

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to look through and see what the options are. Are we going to differentiate between small bags and big bags? >> I don't care. >> And then the roll out of it and, you know, be training people. Okay, now you got a sticker. You're selling stickers and bags for a while. And >> so I don't think it's going to be a big deal. I mean, we'll get the word out

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there on how it's going to work. But >> so with the different size stickers, bags, are we going to have to put something out to all the citizens that says like this gallon size bag you would use this color sticker on and this I mean cuz people are buying their own bags. So it's it's not

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>> they're the ones that are going to have to differentiate between >> what we're going to take. >> It's going to be basically a tall kitchen garbage bag and a 40 gallon, right? work >> and like a black contractor bag basically type thing would be a big one or what? Yep. >> Okay.

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>> I think you know typically what I've had to do now some other stuff we talk about the gallon size because that's typically what's on >> the bags that people are buying now. >> You know it's usually a 30 and a 50

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gallon or 18 and we we'll look at it and maybe put a range and we try to use our discretion out there too. I mean, you know, the number of bags I come to that have three bags sticking out of the top. >> Can you put two stickers on one big bag?

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I mean, there's >> I don't think that's going to work too well. I'm not sure that anyone here that way, but but but I think that, >> you know, >> perfect. >> I think the trial will be nice to kind of work through those kinks and get feedback from the people trying them and

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see what we'll certainly come back and give you a report on. >> Yeah. added to the public forum. I don't know that I mean I I'm not necessarily signing up to I'm a scientist so I'm not that signing up to counting every one of these things but

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we can certainly get some data on sure >> you know how relatively how much we're seeing of stickers versus not give you some ideas >> question on the bag size like Brent mentioned the contractor bags there's bags out there that are 40 gallon you

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got 55gallon and you can even find some bigger ones on sometimes. Are you going to have to set up a different rate or a different size sticker if somebody's using >> the drum size bags? >> So, this is what I would This is how I think it could work, at least on first

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flush. We're going to look at the size bags that we currently have that have some yellow grading on it. And that's what we're going to say these are up to, right? Going to be just like a big yellow bag and a medium yellow bag, right? And we know that there are going to be people that are going to do different things than that because it

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always happens. And we're going to have to figure out how to sort that out. And we'll probably sort that out by the size of bag they have. And if the thing weighs a ton or not, you know, >> other places do it by weight, too. So, if it's like over 40 lbs, they just left the bag.

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>> You know, if you if you got somebody out there to go lift a bag and it weighs 100 lb, you're not going to throw it in your >> garbage truck. But we do now unfortunately have no choice. Pity litter is no one's friend. I'll tell you that. But anyway, the point is I think it'll work out okay

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and and we'll find out and we'll report back, you know, but my thought would be we're going to put we're going to we're going to make these labels. It'll it'll clearly say it's for this size up to this size bag >> like up to 30 gallon up to 55 gallon or something like that. Just find numbers.

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>> But you know, we're not here as you might imagine. We're not out there measuring the volume, but we we we pretty much know what the right sizes are. >> Um, so maybe just looking at a motion to direct city administrator Wyberg to coordinate with Jamie to

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>> and do and we'll run the trial. >> Okay. Yeah, I think a three-month trial and see if this works. And then if if it works out, then we can yeah, like Brent had said, um yeah, look at putting some cost savings to the residents after if it works out with the stickers. And if

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not, we can always revamp it, try out different stickers, different sizing, whatever. So, um I think this is a good >> thing to try out. I'd make the motion and I would also include that we start off with a coated paper because of the lower cost.

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>> I don't want to hit people with uh you know we've got 3 to seven cents on the paper one and you go down to the holographic it's 20 up to 22 cents. Let's try to keep it at a reasonable price for a starting >> tryyout and then we can decide during

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the try out if we're going to go out up to something different or better. >> Maybe the cheaper will work. >> Yeah. >> Or if we can order depending on minimum order, you could order, you know, a little bit of each of the top two and maybe you find out like in the rain

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these paper the coated ones just disintegrate and fall apart or maybe those are perfectly fine depending on minimum, you know, quantity. D and I are hearing is um we want to make sure it sticks. We want to minimize the ability to counterfeit and we want

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to keep the cost down cuz it's all about keep and so we'll work through that with the vendors to figure out what that what what what is the option best and since it's only a 3-month trial I don't know that we need to to your point we don't have time to get 100% to see what

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happens here >> because there are some minimum orders here too so >> Yep. Just want to make sure then a big concern would be that our three-month doesn't hit -40° and all of a sudden >> right after our 3 month is up. We order a ton and then we roll into February and

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then nothing works. So yeah, >> I think >> as long as they're saying that they're going to be good, I would assume that >> I don't know if they like it. >> Well, it's it's not as if what I'm going to potentially say, well, we did for this 3 months, the responsible is payable. Let's go another three months

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over the winter, you know, and see what happens. >> Yeah. >> Frankly, >> true. >> All right. Um >> I I just don't think the weather's going to be too terrible of an issue just because uh people generally put their

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bags out fairly approximate to when it's picked up. >> Winter, but >> typically it's sitting outside in a can for the past week. You know, >> how some people serve that as you're not going to keep your garbage inside for the week. So, you're going to have

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something that's been it outside or in the can. >> Y >> and in the winter time that we'll find that out real quick. >> Y >> All right. So, yeah, just taking everything into account. Jamie's been listening. Dean's been listening. So, just looking for a motion to direct

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>> I made one already. I made the motion >> with but it sounded like they were >> with the coded paper that we try the coded paper first because of the lowest cost. >> Okay. >> So we're not out there wasting people's money. >> Sure. Okay. We have a motion from

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councelor Jarva. Uh is there a second? >> I'll second that. >> Second from councelor Matson. All those in favor? >> I >> I. Any opposed? Hearing none. Motion carried. Um yeah. Thank you gentlemen for putting this together. It's yeah, was very informative. So, thank you.

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Looking forward to that. >> All right, moving on to new business. 11.1 resolution 202612, appointing election judges for 2026 primary and general election. Um, so

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yeah, just looking for approval of um a resolution just to appoint election judges. Um, do it every election. uh talking with Tammy. Um a lot of the um folks who have done it in the past are doing it again this year. I think there's a few newer ones, but um yeah,

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we just have to pass a resolution to appoint election judges. Is there any uh comments or questions regarding that? >> Yeah. >> Do they have to be residents of White Lakes to be appointed? No, they do not. Okay. From >> I don't believe so. I don't believe so.

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No, because uh I think they can float. Suss and Michelle Lambie. >> Yeah. When I asked Tammy today, she said they don't. >> Okay. >> And she's she's been kind of the head election administrator. >> Louise Cond moved. >> Right. Yeah. So, I did ask Tammy and

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Tammy said it. Our >> head judge doesn't live here. >> No. So, if that's the case, then I'd make the motion that we approve it. >> Uh motion from councelor Jarville. Is there a second? >> I'll second. >> Second from councelor Ecman. All those in favor? >> I. Any opposed? Hearing none. Motion

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carried. Uh and then moving on to 11.2 seasonal EMT hire uh Saurin Mishra. Mel, do you mind speaking to this? >> Yeah. Um I had a college student Saurin Mishra reached out to me um wondering if he

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uh could come work for us. So he's obviously on summer break from college. Um we'll be going back. I think he said to finish up his last year and then eventually moving on to med school. Um he's already an EMT licensed in the

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state of Minnesota, has all his credentials. Um so I'm just asking us or you guys to allow me to hire him seasonally like we do the rest of the seasonal kids without uh physical drug tests, stuff like that.

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I already interviewed him over the phone. Very nice, bright kid. uh very polite. Um I have to call him tonight and let him know and if it's a yes, he's coming to our business meeting tomorrow to meet everybody. Um we'll get him on the

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schedule as a third for a while. So he's done a lot of volunteer work as an EMT, but a lot of ride alongs um ED shifts, but he's never actually worked on an ambulance. been on one doing ride alongs, but so um we'll have our

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paramedics pull him under the wings, do some training and get him going. >> Will he be living in town here or >> No, he lives out on White Face, so that's another I guess bonus. So when he does come to do his shifts, he has to be

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at the hall. So that'll give us ample time to get his training done and things like that. the more time he spends down there, the more he'll learn about our wonderful service. >> Sounds like it'll be beneficial to your

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you guys and him to get some extra training in, >> right? And then and then like he said, um if this if this is approved next year, he'd like probably like to do the same thing. We can get him on sooner um May, like when he's done with school.

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And then um prior to med school, he said he'll probably have a couple gap years. So they looks like they bought some property out on White Face. So that's where he's staying for the summer. >> Any other questions or

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>> Have we done seasonal before? >> No. And I don't know why. And right now like last last council meeting you approved a resation. Next your next meeting you're going to approve another resignation. So

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I'm losing one of after 15 years. Well, she's done as of yesterday. So >> coming on a seasonal, they will not be eligible for relief association benefits or anything like that. He doesn't live in our fire service area. So he wouldn't

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anyways >> and he would get paid same as like in seasonal >> just the same as our payroll come out of the ambulance but just hire him like like we do the summer kids in town. >> He'll be will he be paid at their rate

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or the same rate that >> same license which it's the >> yeah same lure and things like that. Yeah, he has all the all the credentials everyone here has. So >> So the only difference is putting him through the background stuff basically. >> Right. But he just do I'd have Jordan do

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a background check and that's about it cuz typically we'll have Well, we do I can do a physical agility test on him um tomorrow. But but my dog could pass it. So I'm not concerned. >> Not really >> at all. My overweight Corgi could could

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do it. So I'm not too concerned. I could do it. So, >> is this something that you would look at starting to do? Maybe hire more seasonally? >> I got a lot of like like at Jen Hall, she spends a lot obviously spends a lot of time at the point during the summer.

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So, during the winter, she'll do more than her 24 hours, but during the summer time, she's limited obviously cuz she's working lots. So, I'll only get about 24 hours or a month. Um, a lot of people take vacation during the summer. So,

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yeah, it >> it'd be nice to get some college kids in. >> Summer, >> but but college kids, it'd be nice. That's what I was thinking. The college kids that come back for the summer that >> want to get their own. >> I think we got to loosen our our hiring

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policies a little bit or a little bit too tight and I'm getting a little bit too desperate. So, >> you don't know until you try it. >> I think it it makes sense, especially with the stuff that goes on around here in the summer. You >> hopefully staff water carnival a little bit more then if you got some of these

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seasonals and >> Yeah. I think it's a good idea. >> All right. >> And who knows, maybe we can go to school for paramedic or something instead of doctor. >> Yeah. Pull him away from that MD. Get him out. >> His family would be mad. It pays the

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same, right? >> Right. Oh, absolutely. Pays the same. Yeah. >> All right. Any other comments or questions? Hearing none, I'll ask for a motion to approve the hiring of seasonal EMT

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employee just um pending the the acceptance or reviewing of any appropriate documentation. >> We'll have to have Jordan do a background check. I think that's sufficient and I don't think that will take long but >> okay so yeah motion for that >> I'll make a motion

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>> motion from councelor Matson is there a second >> I'll second >> second from councelor Grahams all those in favor >> I >> any opposed hearing none motion carried and that is it for the agenda agenda so I ask for a motion for adjournment >> so moved >> motion from councelor Jarala is there a

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second >> I'll second >> second from councelor Grahams all those in favor >> I any opposed hearing none Motion carried. Thank you.