Uh we will call this meeting to order. This is the regular town council meeting Thursday, April 23, 2026 for the town of Indian River Shores. Uh welcome everyone and uh we will start with the invocation from Councilman Carol. >> We're thankful for this town and its
residents. We're grateful for all who work for the betterment of our community and all who serve on its behalf. Let those who work here and those who serve here be ever mindful of the town's vision and mission statement. Grant the council the wisdom to govern amid the
conflicting interest and issues of our times. The ability to work together in harmony even when there is honest disagreement, a sense of the welfare and true needs of our people, personal peace in our lives, and joy in our task. Amen. >> Amen. Amen. Thank you, Councilman. And
let us also keep our our troops who are in harm's way in our thoughts and prayers. And we will now say the pledge of allegiance to the greatest country on earth, the land of the free. Because of the >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Can you call the role, please? >> Mayor Foley here. >> Vice Mayor Alwater >> here. >> Council member Carroll >> here. >> Council member Alieri
>> here. >> Council member Tedesco >> here. >> Let the record show all members are present. >> All right. Thank you. Welcome everyone, especially our distinguished visitors. Um, contrary to popular belief, we have not instituted a blockade of Indian River shores. Um, we we have the Coast
Guard Auxiliary here for uh our annual appreciation for them. So we will now move to the uh agenda reordering deletions or emergency additions. Are there any requests for same? If not, we can have a motion and a second to approve. >> So move. >> All in favor?
>> All right. Uh presentations and proclamations. Uh as alluded to a few moments ago, we have the proclamation for National Safe Boating Week. uh this is an annual event for us and a very important service that you perform for not just our town but our our
community at large. So we are um happy to do this. If you want to come forward we can read the proclamation. All right let's read the proclamation. Whereas recreational boating and paddling is a popular pastime in our community enjoyed by residents and
visitors alike. And whereas safe boating and paddling practices and the consistent use of life jackets are essential to preventing accidents and saving lives on our waterways. And whereas the United States Coast Guard Auxiliary in partnership with local agencies and organizations is dedicated
to promoting boating safety through education, vessel safety checks, and public outreach. And whereas National Safe Boating Week, observed May 16 through May 22, 2026, serves as an annual reminder for all Boers and paddlers to practice safe
boating and paddling habits and to always wear a life jacket while on the water. And whereas the theme of National Safe Boating Week, quote, where it quote emphasizes the important of life jacket use and encourages all Boers and paddlers to set a positive example for
others. Now therefore, the town of Indian River Shores does proclaim May 16 to 22, 2026 as National Safe Boating Week. And this is done on behalf of the town council and citizens of Indian River Shores. Gentlemen, thank you for what you do. Uh if you'd like to say a
few words before we give you the proclamation uh in paper form, please do. >> I've got a very short comment to make. >> I see you've only got four pages there, so that's good. >> You got to write big. >> Good morning, everyone. Thanks for having us again this year. >> In the past, we've always talked about
the history of voting safety week. Well, I want to move it out of the past this year and put it in to uh current events. Here in Florida, we've had a not too great a
how can I put this nicely, a stigma in Florida as being the worst c worst state in the country for voting fatalities. We are number number one with Texas being number two and we've got 60% more
fatalities on the water than Texas and they've got as many lakes as we do and they've got a huge presence on the Gulf of America. Um of of 81 fatalities since we were here last year here in Florida,
about half of them were from drowning. 62 of the 81 were not wearing life jackets. I know we keep pushing that issue, but the ones that are available nowadays, they're colorcoordinated with your outfits. They they're lightweight and
they can save lives, and it's an important issue. Now, in the past, two years now, the state of Florida hasn't made it mandatory for everyone. That's it turns that was born after January 1st of 1988 to have a boating
safety class on a card when they're operating a vessel. Well, since it's mandatory, our enrollment in our boating safety classes has dropped tremendously in the Treasure Coast and the Palm Beaches. We're getting less and less people
taking these classes and it's something that's very important and we need to have this addressed to everyone. We're putting it out there on every website everywhere. We've canled our last two meetings because of lack of enrollment. Uh we've combined it with different flotillaas so we can at least get a a showing of a couple people so they don't
think they're in our way, so to speak. But having said that, we hope we have a very safe and enjoyable season on the water. And I'm sorry to see, Mr. Mayor, that the rest of the council didn't get your memo on the spring attire. >> Thank you very much. This is a
tradition. Um, when we have our last requirement for a coat and tie, I I break out the one good suit I still have left in Florida and I wear it. So, >> and Tom McCarti just has a few quick words and we'll >> Absolutely. Please do. >> I'm going to uh address recreational paddling. Um, uh, we we snuck a few of
those words into the National State Boating Week uh proclamation this year because remember paddlecraft are boats. They are required to have the same operating parameters as a boat and that includes a life jacket. A life jacket
has to be available and readily accessible on a kayak. Uh I don't know about you, but there is barely enough room on the kayak for me. So, where's the best place for this? Wear it. That's the And I want to take a minute to read
the label to you here. Adult large. These things are specific for your size. They have to fit properly. Another thing this manufacturer actually indicated wear it. Don't stow it. So that's an excellent and the other thing you need
to look for is the uh Coast Guard approval. Now wearing it. I'm just going to demonstrate one important facet here is that bear with me.
>> And it's fun trying to put the M water. >> It has to fit snug. This is not snug. If I'm in a situation where I fall out, it's going to rise up around my chin. Might impair my ability to be rescued. So, snug it up. First place is
tight around your waist. Tight. Tight. So, now it's not going to ride up. Now it's secure. And the other thing that you need affixed to your life jacket is a sound producing device. These are statutes.
This is a requirement. So when you're out paddling with your friends, check them over and wear it. Thank you. >> Thank you very much. Um we'll do what we can to get the word out to folks and um you know is is there just a a question
for you all. Is there is there a mandatory refresher course for, you know, voters in the state of Florida at at any age, whether it's under under uh 15 or uh any any legislative requirement whatsoever, and I'm a I'm a proponent of
as little government involvement in these things as we can, but when it comes to public health and safety, you know, is there a legislative pathway here potentially to because that those are shocking numbers to have 60 out of 80 approximately people uh who died of drowning not not be wearing flotation
devices. That's shocking. >> Unfortunately, there is no provision right now for re-upping your certification or for a refresher course. We do have quite a few people come to our classes that have had uh classes in
the past and maybe just got a new vote and want to get, you know, a new idea what's happening. >> All right. Well, food for thought. Maybe some of our local elected representatives would love to hear your thoughts on that. I'm sure you've got a few. So, thank you very much. Here's
your proclamation fit for framing. >> Appreciate it. Thank you. Yep. Keep up the good work. Thank you. >> Uh item 3B, Tammy Bersick. Uh rumor has it you ran all the way from Boston because you have your Boston Marathon completion medal on. So, >> yes, I'm showing off my medal. I
survived. >> Congratulations. That's a great accomplishment. All right. You're going to update us on the city of Vero Beach 4th of July America 250th birthday celebration. >> Yes, sir. Um, thank you for allowing me to be here today. As I know all of you
know, it's our 250th anniversary of our country. So, this year we really wanted to do something huge on July 4th. And let me just first say this is not about the city of Vero Beach. This is about the community. We have reached out to
many different organizations, of course, all the municipalities, the county to try and get everybody involved and just a gest of the things that are going on the day of July 4th. We start here at the barrier island and I know most of
you are familiar with the the run to the wreck, which is just a huge event these days. We did a little research to find out who started that and we got back to actually the Sununners. They started it many years ago and at that time it was
just like six or seven people going out to the wreck and the time they started it was at 8:00 in the morning. So we said, "Okay, that's when we're going to start our event on July 4th." Now keep in mind that people go out there at 6:00, 7:00. I mean it's just a
huge event and um so we have tried to incorporate the that event into ours with people wearing red, white and blue bathing suits and just really getting into the special day. So then we move
from there and we go to the um the oceanside farmers market. So we reached out to them and they of course wanted to be involved. So, they're going to have all their vendors decorating their booths. They'll be in their red, white, and blue
and be ready for the day. Then, we move from the barrier island and go to the mainland. This is where at 10:00 we are going to have a parade. And I know I've talked to the mayor and the city clerk here about um Indian River Shores getting involved with our parade. And I think maybe
they're going to have a fire truck in there or whatever you decide is just great. So, we um we are really working on getting that going and so far it's been a huge success. We only have
a few slots left. So, if anyone is still wondering if they can get in, please fill out your application and get it back to us. So, after the parade, which starts at 10:00, we think it's going to end about
12, um we'll have a huge birthday cake. Um and that will be in the community center, which we'll be singing happy birthday and celebrating. Um we also at the parade, the um the American Antique
Society will have um several older cars at the um the train station. Some of the cars will be in the parade. However, they're just afraid that they would overheat being in there for so many hours. So, most of them, they have like between 25 and 30 cars so far that will
be at the train station for people to go over there and look at. And um so we kind of finish with that and we come back to the barrier island and Riverside Park. So, at 4:30, the veterans are
going to have a 250th um anniversary celebration or um tribute to to um the 250th anniversary. And like I said, that will start at 4:30, probably go on to about 5:30. Once that is over with,
we'll get on to the band will start playing. This year, we have Rip Tide, which is a huge band in this area. people really like them. And we'll have a hot dog eating contest, hula hoop contest, pie eating contest, you name it. There'll be food trucks out there.
There'll be a nice children's area. Um just just all kinds of things, vendors going on that day. And of course at 9:00, that's when our fabulous fireworks take place. So, I'm not saying
it's going to be longer this year, but they've just going to make it very, very special for this um anniversary. Now, um we like I said, we have all kinds of other things going on. Um we wanted to get the children involved. So,
there is a um a painting contest where they are going to be port um portraying their artwork and that's going to be at the museum on May 7th. that's gonna actually be jured and they will get um prizes for the first, second, and third.
And um one of the things that we're going to have on July 3rd in which I brought this is a time capsule. This is Oh, don't want to break it. This is this is going to be your time capsule. each municipality and the
county are getting a time capsule to um for you to put in any of your memorable um items that you would like um reaching out to your community to fill the time capsule. And on July 3rd at 12:00, we will have a ceremony where these time
capsules will be buried. Now, keep in mind that for the 100th year centennial, there was a time capsule, but we never could find it. I mean, we dug and dug and dug, but we never found it. But that's not going to happen this year.
Um, Council Member Voss has been working on having a beautiful plaque there, and he's already got the wording. It's very nice, which I can send to you so you can see, but it has um all the municipalities in the county on there, which will be placed once it's buried, once the time capsules are buried. So,
in 50 years, when they go to open the time capsule, everybody will know where it is. And um that's kind of the gist of what we're doing. But like I said um we just want everybody involved and we want to thank Indian River Shores for being a
part of it. If you have any questions otherwise I'm going to leave you your time capsule. >> Uh any questions for Miss Bers? No. >> Uh thank you. We did meet and um uh when Janice left the room we nominated her to be the coordinator for the town.
Perfect. Um I trust nobody on council has any issues with that, but we do need a you know one central one central um uh repository for the things and we'll we'll get the word out. Uh we'll solicit our folks. We have some some pretty interesting things about our town that most of our residents don't even know
about. Like um um for example, uh where John's Island is was once proposed as the campus for the University of Central Florida. Can you imagine how different this place would be if we had UCF here as opposed to there? Uh, and there are a bunch of other things that we'll uh
we'll be happy to educate people on and we'll get people involved in the >> um in the in the parade and the fireworks and we'll do what we can, you know, to help you in any way, shape, or form. So, thank you very much for coordinating this. Yeah. >> Item 3C, domain name change update.
take care of this, Mr. Harping. >> Uh, yes. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council, >> uh, just some brief information on our, uh, digital infrastructure modernization. >> So, we had a number of initiatives that we've been looking at uh, over time. Uh,
our email system, our website, and uh, our brand. What we're looking at is a unified domain and a new uh, uh, brand and seal uh, consistent with a unified identity. The objective really was just to modernize the infrastructure across
those um those three areas. So, uh as we transition, we had actually two different um email domains. One atshores.com, the other IRSpsd.org, which was the public safety department. Uh we are moving to Indian
rivershores.gov gov uh as a single unified domain for all staff and this will uh assist us and allow us to share uh global address list and calendars and and so on. Uh as to the platform migration, the email uh will eventually be retired. uh
it had some uh uh you know constraints uh but with a unified platform again we're going to have a shared calendar across departments and a a global uh address list and uh cloud storage uh integration for uh for our emails. Uh and as to the website uh previously
we had two different uh domain names for the website indie rivershores.com and IRSpsd.org we are going to be going to Indian rivershores uh.gov gov. It's a single URL. Be consistent navigation, branding. Uh you'll go to one place and be able to
get to every place uh everything that you need relative to town services and operations uh from that single platform. Uh then as to the identity, um we historically had the uh the logo on the left. Uh we did some uh discussions internally and with uh some residents
and others and um have uh come up with the following. On the left we have our official seal. uh we will be coming forward to the council with a resolution uh designating that as an official seal uh at uh meeting uh coming forward. Uh the other is our our brand logo as
you've uh started to see. Um, in both internal and external discussions, excuse me, in both internal and external discussions, uh, we were looking to end up with something a little, uh, brighter, uh, a little lighter, uh, a
little, uh, more, uh, welcoming while still maintaining some of the history in the official seal. Um, don't want to go into uh great detail here, but in terms of our uh status, our email is up uh and live. So,
if you want to email us at Indian rivershores.gov, uh the same uh precursor uh names, the jarpring or whatever it happens to be still exists. And we're still in the process of uh completing a number of the items that are uh that are outlined
here. uh and eventually we'll go to um uh decommissioning uh everything else uh after approximately a year. So, we're completing the forwarding and uh addressing list uh for all of our uh records with a global address list. Uh we continue to monitor our our mail flow
and retire domains uh that we don't need. And one of the other things that we've done is try to clean up a variety of different um email addresses uh that were not particularly descriptive of what they were for and and and retire some of those. And then of course we're
deploying the new seal uh and the and the brand identity for the town um over time. You've seen that in some of the documents. Uh it's not a uh single moment flip the switch piece. Um but uh this is what we're looking at. And uh I think that's the last uh slide. Heather, thank you for that. Uh, and of course I
want to thank um, you know, everyone on the team. I I know that as far as all of the uh, technical side, everyone has been weighing in. Um, I'd like to thank Mike uh, Latinsky, our uh, IT director and uh, Heather and Janice and Lucy, everybody, the whole the whole team. A lot of people have really chipped in.
Uh, to name one is to um, forget somebody else. So, I I do just want to thank everybody that's been uh working on this and um we're available for for any questions if you have >> any questions from um from council. >> Yeah, ju just one on the uh business
cards. We'll put the new seal on on our town business cards. >> Um I wasn't planning on on uh on doing that. I don't believe >> uh I I I would request that be done. uh only that uh I think of the town as
having the mission oak trees and which you have that on the on the seal like you have have it on there. So that that would be my request. I don't know how the rest of council feels. >> I I can put together a draft, take a look at it and see see what it what it would look like format-wise.
>> I I'm uh what is referred to as aesthetically challenged. Um so uh I'm agnostic on it, but I see no reason why not to do that. you know, we're gonna we're gonna have to um update the business cards with um you know, with the new email addresses and things like
that, but as a point of clarification, the old email addresses will work for at least a year. So, our business cards that have been handed out, we'll get the numbers. >> Yes, that's correct. >> Okay. Any anybody object to the new seal going on their business cards? So, >> we'll put together a draft template for you and and get it out.
>> Yep. I know we're all here. I just wanted to see if anybody had a burning objection to uh the change. So, all right. Terrific. Uh, any other questions? None. Thank you. I know this is one of those jobs that um looks simple enough
uh and nobody appreciates the difficulty and the intricacies in doing it and uh changing systems. So, appreciate your work, Mike, and uh thank you for thank you for doing this. And uh there's also a um uh did I remember correctly that there's a security enhancement to it by
going to the new domain site as opposed to a.com >> relative to the the.gov. Um yes, in terms of spoofing and things like that, it is a a little step up. Not that things can't happen, but um it's it's definitely a step up in that regard. >> Okay. Thank you. So well worth the money
then. All right. Um let's move on to item four. Comments from the public regarding agenda items. So, this is the public's opportunity to come up and speak on items that are on the agenda. If it does not appear on the agenda, please wait till the end of the meeting.
Going once, going twice. Okay, we have a taker. If you could just state your name and generally your your your address and um take it from there. >> Uh Teresa Morgan, 935 Beach Comr Lane.
Um I'm just I just want to comment about the um contract that's on the agenda to be approved for Beach Comr and Pebble. Um I just want to go on record saying that I think that it's important that the homeowners understand what those
costs are going to be. Uh we had a meeting about 19 months ago where we sort of got an idea of what the costs of the sewer portion would be which were to bear um at that time and um you know 19 months was a long time ago. So, um I think it's important that we really try
to understand what those costs are going to be today. And since you're approving the contract without us having that information, it just um it causes a little anxiety. Um so, if uh if that could maybe be addressed or or at least
some assurances that those costs could be mitigated or kind of kept to where they were thought to be back 19 months ago. And I know a lot has changed since then. So, thank you. That's all I wanted to say. >> All right. Thank you. Um we'll hear we'll hear about that later in the u later in the program. And you know just
for those that are interested in this issue, remember we're we're kind of constrained on this. This is a mandate from the state that we had to do this by a certain date. Um I know Mr. Bolton and Mr. Harping have been working very hard on that. And Mr. Bolton, thank you for the time and effort you've put into this. Um so hopefully we'll we'll have
your questions answered later in the meeting. Anybody else? Okay. Uh moving on to the consent agenda. Is there a motion to approve the consent agenda? >> Second. >> All right. The motion by Councilman
Carroll, the second by Councilman Altieri. Uh we do have a resolution, so we will take a roll call vote. >> Mayor Foley. >> I. >> Vice Mayor Award. >> I. >> Council member Carroll. >> I. >> Council member Alieri. >> I. >> Council member Teddesco. >> I.
>> The record show the motion passes unanimously. >> All right. Um mayor's report. I'll try to keep it um try to keep it a bit brief today. Um first first off, we had uh
hosted the local municipal clerks in in our municipality for a lunchon um last month. I believe it was on the 26th or 27th. It was after our regular regular meeting. Uh these meetings are essential
and uh eye opening for someone like me because you know they say that you know the officers eat the meals and the non-coms run the army. Um they're the noncoms. I mean the the work that the the clerks do and sharing of information. Uh they find a way to get
things done when others don't. Um thank you to all the clerks and thank you Janice for for hosting them and uh giving us the opportunity um to meet them. Um okay. uh on the on the uh followup from
something that's on a lot of people's mind reading about the possibility of tax reform, municipal tax reform, modifying uh ad valerum taxes, real estate taxes. Um so we we all have different sources of information, but if you if you've been following this, it
does not look like uh the votes are there. Others say it could be a stretch to get the votes in the Senate to um join the House resolution which would um put on the ballot, you know, a basically a repeal of u of taxes. So um there are
other things that are working their way through the system. There may be some legislative solutions to this uh issue. We just have to wait and see. Um I I think uh if you follow this issue, you'll see it's all over the place. uh and by virtue of the fact that there have been some delays in the scheduling
of the special session and some challenges to figure out how to fit this this issue into the special session is um is kind of telling as to what if anything will happen. Um I do have uh for council uh a the summary of um property tax
revenues in Florida that was you know alerted to me. Uh, and you know, just looking at the other side of it, you know, are we overt taxed or undertaxed? From 2019, Florida property tax revenue was approximately $32 billion.
In 2025, it's estimated to be in excess of $56 billion. So, that's a that's an astonishing increase in property tax revenue. And, um, you know, there are a lot of lot of reasons for it, but mostly the appreciation in value. you know,
obviously if you keep your mill rate the same and your property value goes up, your tax bill goes up. So, it doesn't look like your tax rate is increasing, but your tax bill is. So, um, you know, my sense is the majority of, uh, Flidians would like to see some kind of some kind of relief, some kind of
reform, not just for this, but also for, you know, high insurance rates. So, um, we don't have any magic ball on this. We don't have any special information and I don't think even the individual members of uh uh of the state legislature uh know specifically which way this is
going to go. That's why they have these sessions. Um okay, we're we are going to set a uh a work not a workshop meeting. We're going to have a a a resident input meeting on the whole issue of uh pickup trucks and you know whether or not we
should modify our local ordinance to allow um some some type of pickup truck, particularly non-commercial. We're not talking about commercial pickup trucks and commercial vehicles. Just, you know, kind of getting some input from people about how they feel about modifying
um our current ordinance which prohibits pickup trucks from being parked even in your own driveway. Um, now this is for the members of the public and you know council council are free to do what they want to do. My my belief is it's best for us to stay out of it. Um, let the
public come in uh let the public make their make their comments and have it moderated by the town manager. >> Uh, it's not a notice public meeting. So, if we were asked a specific question, uh, we conceivably could be getting ourselves in sunshine law violation territory problems because
it's not a public meeting and and you don't want to telegraph how you're thinking on an issue. The town attorney is nodding, which I always like. And so, that's probably the best practice. I think you'd agree. So, that will be for the public to to tell us what's on your mind and how you think about this issue. >> Um, all right.
>> Mr. Mayor, if I may, just briefly just on that on that topic. Um, I was going to address it later, but since you brought it up, uh, community meeting, uh, notice is going to go out. We, we, um, have, uh, reservations here, uh, May 19th here at the, um, uh, in the council chambers at 10:00 a.m., uh, we're going
to put notice out in the newsletter and on the website and invite the community to come in. We'll notify the, uh, the, you know, the HOAs, the property managers, and so on. I want to make sure everybody has an opportunity to um uh say their piece and I will report back to the council uh on the May 28th meeting um to let you know how it went.
>> Terrific. Great. Thank you. Um so we'll get Yeah, we'll get that we'll get that that word out, not just on our on our website blast. Um all right, so that's basically it. I'm happy to take any questions from council if uh >> uh Mr. Mayor, have you heard any update
on the utility bill that we were trying to uh get what was it 1051? Uh >> as the last time I checked, which was six or seven days ago, it had not yet been presented to the governor for signature. So, anything else?
Um and but actually following up on that, not much has been presented to the governor for signature asset since Okay, >> there's no time limit, Pete. Is that right? and um you know they're kind of focused really on budget issues and um >> yes, Mr. Mayor uh council um very few
have even been transmitted to the governor at this point and they are under no statutory time frame to transmit them today, tomorrow, next week. So um once they do, there's a clock as we talked about, but there is no time frame for them to actually present it.
>> All right. Um thank you. So 7A, Vice Mayor Alwater, uh you're going to talk to us about the Indian River County Beach Preservation uh draft plan. >> So there was a meeting in the uh over here
in the community center. I had pretty good turnout, 86 uh people uh a week ago. And so what this is is that every once in a while, Indian River County updates a beach preservation uh plan. So that looks at the state of conditions
along the beach all the way through the north to the south part of the county and it's broken down by sectors. I'll show that in in a moment and evaluate strategies to try to uh uh preserve that. So, if you look up here, you'll
see that it's been updated a number of times and the update evaluates, as I say, current uh coastal conditions, assess risk, identifies management strategies to guide resilient long-term
shoreline and stewardship. This is 602 pages. 126 pages in the front section talks about the uh strategies and so forth. and then the remaining are appendices in which there's a lot of historical data. What's
interesting about that is that if you want to look at what's the state of the of the beach near your house, it's very uh detailed. So, there's a lot of good information that way. So, I'm I'm going to quickly go through what was uh talked
about at this workshop. There was a series of posters and these are exact copies of the of the poster. I'm going to primarily focus on sectors three and four which cover Indian River Shores. I'm not going through all of them because it would take too long of a
time. So just looking at the uh beach here uh you'll see that in this uh diagram this is how the county looks at the uh at the uh beach. This particular spot here which says dune position is also known as the dune toe. And that's
important in terms of how is that moving over time relative to waves and how do we offset that with potential beach nourishment and other strategies. And this part down here refers to a hard bottom. So what's a hard bottom? The
definition that exposed limestone, rock or coina reefs providing crucial high diversity foundations for algae, coral, sponges and fish in a sandy marine environment. Why that is important? Because that really impinges on the strategies that we can use. Often time
we've had people come up from the northeast and say why aren't you just pumping sand in from uh offshore like they do particularly New Jersey. I I used to go down Avalon and Stone Harbor every year and each year you'd see they'd be pumping uh hundreds of
thousands of cubic yards of sand. Because of that hard bomb, you have to be very careful how you move sand from uh offshore and weather will impinge on that marine environment. So, uh Indie River Shores
is in this area here. It's from sector 3, the latter part of sector 3 or most uh southern part of sector 3 all the way here to sector 4 and a very small piece of sector 5 down along along the uh
tracking station uh park and our sector has gotten hammered on sand uh over over time. So if you if you look over here, the dune position from 1997 to 2024. So this does not represent the sand that
was put in last year, which definitely helped a lot. So that that moved 54 ft the wrong way inland. And uh over periods of time uh more recently, most of that
uh landward sand uh dune movement has been more more recent. And I'll talk about that in a moment. So what you'll see down here is what this shows is the dune position graft by each particular what they call a range monument. So a
range monument is a marker roughly about 500 ft in distance. Uh most our our range monuments in Indian River Shores go from 46 here all the way out to uh 73. So they measure the county through a a
uh contractor measures the sand movement and you can see here primarily in sector 4 which is most of the town the sand has gone the wrong way here in sector 6 they've actually accumulated sand. So you may have read in the press about the county requires
to put sand into a particular area they have to get a permanent easement from 90% of the property owners. Well, these property owners have said that they're not going to do it because they get sand. So, that's impacted the project down here in sector uh 7. As I've said
in meetings, uh these people don't don't are concerned that the with an easement that people will walk walk across their property. It's absolutely ridiculous. There's no public access down there. Uh so, but they've continued to do that.
So, shoreline position shows a similar uh story here. Sector 3 has been fairly stable. Sector four has moved the uh wrong wrong way as well. And the same thing just down here in sector 7. Uh beach width. Now in some cases here in
sector 4, the beach width has widened, but that's primarily because the dune has moved backward. So you your protection has moved the wrong uh wrong way uh there. And so you end up seeing the dune uh re retreating. And then
here, look at the uh the volume uh changes here. And sector three been fairly stable. Sector four, we've lost 15 uh 14 to 15 cubic yards per linear foot as you're going down the uh beach.
So, we've gotten hit uh quite a bit and uh people uh the town administration, town council, and so forth have been worked for years to get this sector 4 be listed as critically eroded. And it's been mindboggling to me that we couldn't get that seeing these numbers to go on
and it took a lot of work in Tallahassee uh to uh get get it done. And uh here this talks about the hard bottom edge that that has has moved backward as well. So looking here this shows the
history uh up top of the various hurricanes that moved in fairly recently. So if you look here in sector one and two, they've gotten a lot of sand. Why have they gotten a lot of sand? Because the Sebastian inlet traps sand.
Sand here in this part of Florida moves from north to south. That that inlet traps sand and they're required under state law to move sand out of the uh inlet into sectors one and two. Now what
I objected to was there was a memorandum of understanding between the Sebastian Inlet District and the county to move sand. Over time Sebastian Inlet District has failed to meet their requirements on the plan that they filed with the state. So there was an update to this
memorandum of understanding. Unfortunately I could not convince the county to put some teeth into it. It's basically let Sebastian let do whatever the hell they want to do. But you know I I I tried but it was unsuccessful. Uh uh sector 3 over time has gotten a fair
amount of sand and for the first time sector 4 got sand in 2025. We really needed if you go out in the beach we've had uh a lot of wave action where the wind has come directly out of the east or the northeast and that's chewed up the beach. Now that said a lot
of that sand has gone just offshore and generally it will come back during the summer when things calm down. that is before a hurricane uh uh takes place. Okay. So, we got here uh water level and sea sea level rise projection. So, if
you look down here, and I know it's kind of hard to read because there's a lot of action uh going on here, these are the projections of how uh the uh sea uh level rise going to go up uh given various models. There's one model from the National Oceanic and
Atmospheric Administration. And there's another one from the US Army Corps of Engineers. It's not a it's not a good sign. I mean, a lot of this will take place later, long after I'm dead. But, uh, that said, uh, you know, it's why you have to keep doing dune replenishment. And if you look here,
between 1992 and 2020, sea level rise has been approximately 6 in. That's measured up and down the coast. That doesn't sound too bad, right? Well, the rule of thumb is for every one foot of sea level rise, and this again, this depends on the contour of the beach, but
for one foot of sea level rise, you get 50 to 100 ft of shoreline retreat. That that that that gets your your attention. And this box down here shows the estimate by the Army Corps of Engineer.
They do the SACS is the South Atlantic U coastal study. a 1% uh storm where a large storm uh one basically once a century where the water levels might
rise and we would have by their projections eight approximately 8 ft in sector 3 and sector 4. It's pretty consistent along there. Again, that's just that's a guess in a model. So, okay. So, these are the different vulnerability parameters. I'm not going
to go through all of them. A lot of these are pretty straightforward. The one thing about armoring people bring up, well, put a seaw wall in. Well, all you have to do is go down a porpus point. What happens when you have a seaw wall, and they have one down there, when the waves come in, it scour all the sand
and moves it in the direction the way the sand normally goes. They're they are not a uh solution. One thing I want to point out that historical erosion rate and it mentions here the average shoreline change range since uh 2019 calculated v via linear re regression.
One problem we had in terms of getting sector 4 listed as critically eroded they did a linear regression going back to 1997. It gave equal weight to what happened in 1997 as it did to 2019 and
2020s. And as you can see the other numbers that that encroachment has increased and it was very frustrating for us dealing with the D department of environmental protection and trying to get that done. Okay. So uh so the
consultant did uh uh different sector sector risk uh different factors shoreline encroachment infrastructure exposure whether we have armoring historical seore change and and this
large storm uh response if you had a big big storm once in a century they put weights down here and came up with risk results. they have uh planning sector four uh down as as the fourth fifth uh
fifth being the uh the most risky uh then seven two and I I I disagree with these because the rankings here the weights I think are inappropriate particularly this the uh shoreline change rate they only have listed as a
two as opposed to a waiting of a five. Same thing with the storm here too. I think the all these should be five except for the armor exposure and that would move sector four up but okay so additional community information here
just uh land uses public beach access and I'll talk about that in a in a moment so it's just a a listing of different factors that they uh look at. So shoreline management strategies, I'm not I'm not going to go through these.
Most most of them is either no action or what they end up doing is doing replenishment. They there's other things which are pretty pretty much prohibited. GO2 some private uh beach owners have done those. You'll see them down uh
south of tracking station par seaw walls they're not going to let you do. So you got nearshore sand re uh nearshore sand placement. We can't do that because the hard bottom that I mentioned earlier. So, it's basically bean uh beach and
dune uh uh nourishment. There is a nearshore artificial reef, a so-called PEP uh reef. I've heard mixed results uh on that. So getting to the end here, the uh summary recommendations. I'm just
going to look at uh sector 3 and sector 4. Just to remind you that the sector uh Indian River Shores goes from rain monument of 46 to 55. So if you look down here, that's about 2/ird of the way
south on sector 3. And the uh recommendation is continue beach and dune replenishment which they have been doing. If you look here at sector 4 uh the same thing to try to get sand. One one thing that hurt us over time
push back we got from DP was we only had one public beach access. Well, if you look here, the sector runs from range monument 55 to 72. At 52 1/2, there is a beach
access. At 72 1/2, right at the edge of it, there is a beach access. If you switch that around, you have three public beach access points. Now, this point of 0.3 per mile goes up to 1.3 per mile. that hurt us with DP where they
said you only had one beach access to get in these sectors uh designations uh from everything I've been told because I've asked the question time and time again are pretty much completely arbitrary and you'll see sometimes you have a long beach sector and then a
short one and then a then a longer one. So just something to point out to uh council. So with uh one other thing uh that I you got sector 5 through 8 here this one last chart or table I want to
mention is these are all the steps you have to go through when you're starting a brand new beach project once you get them approved some of this is cut off but this tells you why it takes so long to go through all these and important is
what you know here is EIS then stands or environmental impacts uh study or statement. I forget which uh which one it is. That is the source of a lot of litigation. Anytime a project is done in this country, you have uh uh you know
certain uh non-governmental organizations push back on a project and they they'll tie up in court on that. So that's a that's a very quick summary everything that went on there. Be happy to take any questions or or we can move on. So,
>> anything? No. All right. Thank you. Um, thank you, Vice Mayor. Uh, and, uh, this, for those who want a deeper dive, that's a, it is a publicly available document. Everybody can read it and, uh, located either on the county website. Do we put it on ours or do we >> I think we're going to have a link. >> We're going to have a link of it.
>> Yeah. It's it's real it's real, as you can tell, it's huge. Yeah. >> You know, from a megabyte Yeah. size. So, >> all right. And ju to give just like a end on a little happier note than this. Um, in 2022, the NOA did did produce a
study um that indicated that uh sea rise concerns were uh not as bad as they thought they were going to be. So, they they've walked that back. We're not >> we're we're not going to have beachfront property in Pebble Bay. Uh so, um that's that's the good news that, you know,
these things, you know, take time to um have the data work out. But thank you very much for that for that presentation. Item 8 A, discussion with possible or probable action. Ordinance number 590, repeal of article 6, Department of the Treasury. That's our department of the
treasury, not the federal department of the treasury. Um, section 30.45, organization powers and duties. This is a second reading. Uh I will ask um uh since it's a second reading is if if if there are no questions we can um have
the town attorney read the appropriate language before we move to uh council discussion and a vote. Thank you Mr. Mayor Council. This is ordinance number 590 an ordinance of the town of Indian River Shores repealing article 6 section 30.45 45 of the town's code of ordinances which outlines the
organization powers and duties of the department of treasury in its entirety providing for applicability and inclusion providing for severability providing for an economic impact statement providing for scrier errors and providing for an effective date this is the second reading all right as it's a second reading if there are no further
questions uh can we have a motion and a second >> second >> all right the motion by Councilman Carol the second by Councilman Alieri um can we do a roll call vote please >> Mayor Foley I, >> Vice Mayor Outwwater, >> I, >> Council Member Carroll, >> hi. >> Council member Alieri,
>> I, >> Council Member Teddesco. >> Hi. >> Let the record show. The motion passes unanimously. >> All right. Thank you. Item 8B, ordinance number 591, amend amendment to article 7, Department of Finance, section 30.50, organization powers and duties. This is
a second reading. If um, you will, Mr. Town attorney, can you read the required language? >> Yes, sir. Mr. Mayor, this is ordinance number 591, an ordinance of the town of Inerors amending article I'm sorry that should be yes article 6 um correctly
article 6 section 3050 of the town's code of ordinances which outlines the powers and duties of the department of finance providing for applicability and inclusion providing for severability providing for an economic impact statement providing for scriers errors and providing for an effective date this is the second reading >> all right and just to reiterate it it
should have been article six article 7 is read by me even though that's what was typed. So, all right. Thank you. Um, if there's no further discussion as it's a second reading, is there a motion and a second? >> So, move. >> Second. >> Okay. Same same movement and same seconder. Uh, roll call vote, please.
>> Mayor Foley. >> I. >> Vice Mayor Atwater. >> I. >> Council member Carroll. >> I. >> Council member Alieri. >> I. >> Council member Teddesco. >> I. >> Let the record show. The motion passes unanimously. >> Okay. Ordinance number 592. This is item 8 C, amendment to section 32.
Uh, town manager, uh, we had a fairly full discussion about this at the last meeting. This is a second reading. Uh, can you please read the required language, Mr. Sweeney? >> Yes. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is ordinance number 592, an ordinance of the town of Indian Resor
amending article 2, section 32.21 21 of the town's code of ordinances which outlines the powers and duties of the town manager providing for applicability and inclusion providing for severability providing for an economic impact estimate providing for scrier's errors and providing for an effective date. This is the second reading. Thank you. >> All right. Is there any discussion? If
there is none, a motion and a second. >> Okay. Um same move and second by vice mayor. Roll call vote please. >> Mayor Foley. >> I. >> Vice Mayor. >> Hi. >> Council member Carroll. >> Hi. >> Council member Alieri. I, >> Council Member Teddesco,
>> I >> let the record show. The motion passes unanimously. >> Okay. Ordinance number um 593, item 8D. Uh, this is similar to the previous ordinance just adopted. It's a second reading regarding the procurements of
goods and services. Uh, can you read the required language, Mr. Sweeney? >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. This is ordinance number 593, an ordinance of the town of Indian River Shores amending article 31.02 02 of the town's code of ordinances which outlines the procedures for the procurement of goods and services providing for applicability and inclusion providing for severability
providing for an economic impact estimate providing for scrier errors and providing for an effective date. This is the second reading. Thank you. >> Is is there any further discussion? If none a motion and a second, please move second. >> Okay. Um >> Mayor Foley.
>> Yes. Roll call vote. I >> Vice Mayor Atwater >> I. >> Council member Carroll. >> Hi. >> Council member Alieri. >> Hi. Council member Teddesco. >> I let the mo the record show. The motion passes unanimously. >> All right. Thank you. Moving on to item 8E. This is the award of ITB 26-01,
which is the Beach Carl Lane and Pebble Lane Paving, storm water, and septic to sewer project. Uh before um uh before we move to the uh discussion by council of this um Mr. Harper, in light of the comments from a member of
the public, can you just give an overview of the process and where we are on this? >> Uh yes, I have some information in that regard. Excuse me. Uh historically to set the stage uh in 2023 the Florida legislature passed uh HB 1379
which uh required major provision of that was the septic to sewer portion and the project the it required the u conversion of any septic systems uh to uh sanitary sewer uh if
available. Um and that only related to excuse me, that only related to particular areas and we are in one of those areas. That's the central Indian li Indian River Lagoon Basin. As soon as that was passed, I began discussions with Mr. Bolton and the city about the implementation uh primarily
because the uh relationship of this uh unfunded mandate from the city uh required um >> I'm excuse me, thank you um vice mayor. from the state. The unfunded mandate from the state required the city to coordinate as the wastewater provider to coordinate with the property owner and
property owner has uh the obligations under the statute to to do so. The discussions circulated around timing uh and trying to minimize the uh both the economic and
convenience impacts to the residents. The town has a road paving uh schedule where for particular roads not just that need paving but that don't have any storm water infrastructure. Uh we were going down the road of doing those projects. Uh when HP 1379 was passed uh
I began discussing coordinating those road paving projects uh with the city uh and those discussions with Mr. Bolton again to minimize not just the inconvenience but uh the cost uh of what was going to happen relative to the implementation of HP 1379 briefly if uh
the town wasn't coordinating this particular project with the city then the residents would be obligated to uh pay a proportionate share for the road work. Uh in this particular case the town is coordinating with the city for the septic to sewer portion of the project and we're doing the road work.
the town is. So the individual property owners don't have that particular um that particular obligation. We had a preliminary meeting with residents that we notified on Beach Comr and Pebble Lane. We sent out direct mailers
on September 12th of 2024. Uh at that meeting we discussed the upcoming project. Uh Mr. Bolton was there. He provided a PowerPoint presentation. uh at that time uh in 2024 he provided some very high level uh cost estimates for
what it might look like for the septic to sewer piece understanding that whatever cost was going to be associated with the septic to sewer piece was going to be driven by whatever bid we would get from the the road work and the septic to sewer project. Uh at that time
we did contemplate um having another uh resident meeting uh regarding to to discuss the costs. Uh however at that time we were thinking about potentially doing the bid as a uh request for proposal or uh an intent to negotiate. Uh however to discussing the project
with our team and uh engineers and and others we decided to go through an ITB and invitation to bid and that's consistent with the provisions of 287 uh057 of Florida statutes and and that requires the contract to be awarded to the responsible and responsive vendor
who submits the lowest responsive bid. Um that basically puts us in a position that we're going to we're going to take the lowest bid. As a result of that, there really was no um immediate imminent need relative to the approval of the vendor proposal to have that cost
meeting with the residents. However, uh in the meantime, Mr. Bolton has begun to work on those numbers because those numbers are individual property owners and uh again, we could only speculate as to what those numbers would actually be uh until we had the until we had the
bid. So in that regard, uh right now, uh the bids were opened on April 15th, uh and we received three bids and we have presented for the town council, uh approval of the um uh approval of the
vendor agreement and and awarding the bid. If that's approved today, we have a pre-construction meeting scheduled for next Friday, April 30th. Uh there is a timeline that is in the uh bid proposal for the project to start in July. Uh
however, our hope is that uh if this is approved today that we might be able to accelerate uh that start date since we're having the pre-construction meeting next week and uh begin for mobilization and and so on. The only other administrative item that would
occur after approval, excuse me, is the uh ratification or uh agreement uh of a construction services agreement for the actual contract for the project. That happens uh we have a draft of course uh but that does not formally happen until
after the council uh would approve this. Um with that uh I note that uh that great cooperation. I do want to again thank Mr. Mr. Bolton for his work on this. Uh we've spent the better part of the last two years working through uh interlocal agreements uh again to try to
benefit the residents so that they could um have options for uh payment of this unfunded mandate that they're responsible to pay. Uh and the manner in which we did that was to uh come to an agreements with uh various constitutional officers here, tax
collector, property appraiser, so that whatever the cost uh happens to be that the the final cost that's determined that can be placed on uh the property owner's uh tax role and advertised over a 10-year period. Of course, they could pay it uh upfront. Uh similarly, during
that 10-year period, they could uh pay it off early uh any particular year before August 1st. So, that's where we are um on the project uh generally and I'm happy to answer um any questions. Certainly very sympathetic to the concerns that we've had of the of the
property owners about how they pay for the unfunded state mandate for this connection. Uh but the town uh has done their best to minimize the costs by coordinating the road paving projects so they don't have to pay for that individually. So, um so that's where we
are uh overall. As to the agreement, uh, as I noted, we did receive, uh, three, uh, we received four bids. One was not compliant with the bidding process. Uh, we looked at three. This is the the lowest bid that we have. It's been reviewed by our team. Uh, and we recommend approval of the bid uh, at at
this time. >> Right. So, there were four uh, four interested parties. Three actually submitted conforming documents. Um, and for those that are interested in this arcane bidding stuff that we're required to follow and things like this, it's the lowest responsible bidder, not
necessarily the lowest bidder, but the three were deemed responsible. It happened to be the lowest cost bidder that we found to be the best one. Correct. >> That's correct. >> And the dollar number on that is >> the uh >> I looked for the bid document. I think
it's 1.9. Yes, the total bid is uh 1,945,338. God bless you. Um and the others are on the uh are on the agenda item. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. Um council discussion questions. >> Um I have I have a question regarding
the you said a 10-year payment plan. >> Yes. >> Is there an interest rate associated with that? >> Uh there is. Uh Mr. Paul, I think we were you were looking at um considering early payment uh for taxes and so on. Uh I'll just defer to you on the exact number. Rod, I want to guess.
>> Yeah. So, uh, Rob Bolton, City of Burough Beach, and I'd like to make a comment about the mayor. I am a UCF graduate and probably would be a fisherman today if I had to go to school here in John's Island instead of instead of an engineer. So, um, what we looked
at from an interest rate is if if there's allowed prepayment. So, if somebody just comes in and writes a check >> for at the end of the project, >> you're done. If you go on the assessment role, um the problem that we have with taxes, you know, if if they make a
payment early, you have a 4% discount. So the interest rate would be related to that 4% discount and any other costs associated with the collection by the supervisor, you know, the tax collector.
So I think I did a calculation it was 6 point something% or something along those lines to where we won't be making any money but that covers the costs for it to be spread out over the 10-year period with the other causes. >> So if I'm hearing what you're saying
correctly, let's say it's 6.7, but if somebody has it on the bill, they essentially each year pay they get a 4% discount. So that means it's only 2.7. Am I Am I reading >> No, what I'm trying to say is if you if I needed to collect a dollar
>> Yeah. >> and I'm only collecting 96 cents, >> right? >> Then I got to make it a$145 and then I have the the cost associated with >> the one or 2% that the tax collector is making on top of it. So now that's a$16.
So when they collect a$16 from that's what's set out there. So, if they make their payment in November, I get the dollar. If they make the payment in March, I get a $16. >> Okay.
>> You can sit out that makes it pretty hard for somebody to determine what's what what's what's going on, whether they should go to the uh payment plan or not. I I I can't understand. >> There'll be a there'll be a percentage that'll be calculated that'll show what it is. It's
>> okay. But I'm asking you, okay, but it's 6%, but then do they get do they get the 4% >> discount each each payment? So then it would be 6.7 minus 4 then, right? So would that make it the effective interest rate? >> Your way, the two points goes to the tax
collector. We're not getting anything that's going to the tax collector collecting the money. >> Okay. Because some somebody needs to make the decision. Okay. >> Good. >> Yeah. Um anything else for Mr. Bolton? Um thank you. Thank you for working. I we we don't always get along the way we
should in government, but uh on this one, I think we we did pretty well. Um all right. Is there anything else to move to? All right. Um with that, uh if there's no further discussion, um you know, I will say I followed this process
pretty pretty carefully. I looked at the bid documents. They they were extremely thorough. Um, again, I do appreciate the cooperation between the city and and the town on this. And, um, uh, for something that wasn't our idea to do, I think we've done about the best we can for,
you know, the residents that would have to do this. If they if you had to do it on your own, you'd you'd be paying it out of pocket. There would be no no option really to even have this added to your tax bill, and it'd be a big out-of- pocket burden for some folks. So, um, with that, thank you for thank you for
I don't want to say making lemonade out of lemons, but at least lemon juice out of lemons on this. And, um, you know, hopefully the the project itself goes as as smoothly as possible and we can time it so that we have minimum disruption to uh to our residents on on Beach Gmer and
uh, Pebble Lane. Um, if there's no other discussion from council, um, then the next step in this would be a motion and a second if council is inclined to approve this. So move. >> Second. >> All right. There's a motion from um,
Councilman Carol and a second from Councilman Alieri. Uh, let's have a roll call vote on this. Uh, even though technically it's not required, I think it's important that we all go on record for this. >> Mayor Foley, >> I. >> Vice Mayor Atwater, >> I. Council member Carroll. >> Hi. >> Council member Alieri. >> Hi.
>> Council member Toedesco. >> Hi. >> Let the let the record show that the approval of the uh ITB was approved unanimously. >> All right. Thank you and thank you for your comments um the member from the public and just you know goes without
saying because you know we we all work with Mr. Harping and um Ms. through Tan and um uh we'll we'll be open to have whatever kind of um input and feedback from the residents affected by this as this project goes on as we always are.
So uh our job is to believe it or not try to make things you know as as easy for you as we can and um we'll be receptive to all of that. So um and I'm sure any member of council would would continue to love to hear feedback and u the f folks on beach comr are generally pretty good about giving feedback so I
don't think we have to worry about that. Mr. Harping, did you have something else you were motioning? >> I just wanted to note that uh we do as I I mentioned earlier that we have a meeting next week with the contractors on the 30th. Uh once that uh meeting is complete with staff and engineering and so on, we will have um uh notice through
uh direct mail to everyone on Beach Comr and Pebble. Uh once Mr. Bolton has a little more defined information, uh we're going to have another uh public meeting to go over the uh the actual timeline uh that we have for the work and the product and and and so on. try to keep everybody as um as informed as
possible as we move along. >> Thank you. And if we're feeling sorry for ourselves on this, Mr. Bolton, you can you know how many thousands are you going to have to do in Vero Beach? >> 3,000. >> 3,000. Um I heard I heard the numbers somewhere between is it six and 7,000 in in Sebastian that they're looking at or
>> Yeah. 30,000 across the county. >> Wow. And those are homes affected, not just not just Wow. Okay. Well, good luck with that. Uh thank you. Okay. Item uh 8F, budget schedule, budget workshop, July 23, 2026 at 8:30 a.m. Our first
public hearing, our final public budget hearing. Um, who wants to take that? Uh, Janice, Heather, Jim. Okay, >> Janice, Jim, anyone? You >> if I could just
>> the town manager was able to to dates specific. Um I I believe just uh to note relative to the uh determination of the uh first public budget hearing date, uh I believe the 15th at 501 is um
is okay. >> And what date is that? >> September. >> September 15th. >> September 15th. Yeah. Okay. >> 501. Okay. and and we have um we we have council
that's okay with that, right? So, good. And that's the meeting that lasts from 50:01 to 5:03 p.m. >> If that >> if that Okay. Uh any other dates that we need to solidify on this or is that good? >> Um Madame Clerk, I think we're we're
>> to confirm that the final public budget hearing will be on the 22nd. >> Yep. >> At 501. >> At 501. Terrific. And if I can I I know everybody's pretty good at keeping track of this, but if I could, you know, just ask you to submit in our inboxes or
something a revised schedule of all the all the remaining dates, that would be terrific. So, just to double check and make sure we've got everything in our in our iPhones correctly. Um, all right. Resolution 8G. Resolution 26-01 calling for the
November 3, 2026 election. This is a requirement of state statute to set election dates um in municipalities. Mr. Sweeney, do you want to uh explain and read the required language? >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Council, um as mentioned, this is a uh proforma
requirement um for setting up for the election that will be held this November. So this is resolution 26-01. A resolution adopted by the town of In Shores, Florida, designated the date, time, and place for the filing for the offices for the position of town council prior to the municipal election to be
held Tuesday, November 3rd, 2026, setting the dates and times to qualify for public office, setting the filing fees, and appointing I'm sorry, excuse me, appointing an election canvasing board, and providing for an effective date. Thank you. >> All right. Thank you. I'd call for
public comment, but um this is one of those things we can't do anything anyway because the election dates the election date by state statute. So, is there a motion? >> And well, Mr. Mayor, and of course earlier on you had asked for comments on from the public regarding agenda items. So, I I believe it would qualify under this. >> Sure.
>> Thank you. >> But my point is we can't change the election date anyway. We don't have jurisdiction to do it, right? >> Um is there a motion to approve? >> Second. >> Okay. A motion by the vi by Councilman Carroll and a second by Councilman Alteri. A roll call vote, please.
>> Mayor Foley. >> I. >> Vice Mayor Awat. >> Hi. >> Council member Carroll. >> Hi. >> Council member Alieri. >> Hi. >> Council member Tedesco. >> Hi. >> Let the record show. The motion passed unanimously. >> Thank you. All right. Staff updates. Uh, building department.
>> Mr. Held. Good morning, Mr. Mayor, Vice Mayor, members of council. >> Morning. Uh, >> I do not have any additional information to share with everybody this morning. >> Are are there any questions? >> If there are no questions, uh, we we get
a detailed report of your activity in the permits and, uh, you're a busy fellow, so Yes, sir. >> Yeah, we we appreciate what you're doing. Anything for Mr. Held? Just a general question uh as far as activity in the housing market. What's your what's your read on it? I read varying
reports that Florida in general is going downhill, but does that apply to this area? Vice Mayor, just being in the field talking with contractors. Um the general consensus is that everybody
here is staying busy, that they have contracts for the fall. Uh it doesn't appear that the um the market here is coinciding with where
I worked before previously down in Palm Beach County. It's a different it's a different market up here. So, it's hard for me to say yes, things are slowing down in Palm Beach County, therefore they're going to slow down up here. I can't I can't make that assumption. >> Okay.
>> Anything else? >> No. Thank you. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Um, code enforcement. Good morning. Morning. Other than the items listed on the report, I have no further updates. I can answer any questions if you'd glad
to. >> Is there anything for Mr. Mike Rans? Yes. >> Um Mr. Mayor, uh just briefly as a followup to the vice mayor's question to uh our building official, Mr. Held, I can tell you that by um our code enforcement officer's activity in um
real estate sign pickups, um that things are things are pretty busy out there. As you can see, anytime you walk into our office, we, you know, we've got a handful out there. So, um, it's it's it's pretty it's pretty active for us, uh, in the field.
>> Yeah. I I think, um, you know, I think we've we've been able to discern that. Um, we we defy trends in other places. We're we're we're somewhat unique in in many ways. So, >> you don't want signs about bounce. Uh, >> no. No floaty sand.
>> Yeah. Yeah, but it does seem like we still have some the same repeat uh offenders. I hope we're whacking them for, you know, not giving them any forbearance since they've been >> Yes, sir. >> you know, go been told time and time again. I've seen the spreadsheet on one
p one outfit in particular, which I won't mention in the meeting, but uh they they're at the top of the list there. So, >> yes, sir. Yeah, >> Mr. Mayor, if I may just briefly on on that point, you'll see not some foreshadowing, but we're looking to uh structure uh the sign ordinance uh for real estate signs in a in a little
different manner to give us a little more um enforcement uh ability relative to the structure. So, you'll you'll be seeing something on that coming up. >> All right. Thank you. Keep up the good work. >> Thank you, sir. >> Yep. Facilities department report.
>> Good morning. >> Is this the first facilities department report? All right. >> Yes, it is, sir. >> All right. >> Although the reports have been coming from me up to now anyway. So, okay. >> Can you hear me? >> Yes. >> Good morning, council. Um, you have the
facilities department report which was in your packet and I just wanted to know if you had any questions. >> None. >> Very good. >> None for me. Anybody? >> No. Thank you. you know, for for for those in the audience that don't know
Lucy. Lucy um Lucy was what was it last month or before given the facilities management job. So, basically, we just gave her a title with no additional money to do everything she's been doing already. So, uh thank you for doing that. >> You didn't think you were going to get
away with that, Mr. Harper, did you? So, all right. Um finance department report um this Christmas. Good morning. Um, the only update I have is I will be providing a budget amendment next month. Other than that,
I'm available for any questions that you may have. Anything for Miss Christmas? I I have one. How how disruptive is um the new statutory requirement that you have to comply with. And you know, if you want to just give a basic like a
10-second summary of of what it is, you have to you have to project like 10% reduction in revenues and what that would look like. And >> well, Jim and I are already starting to look at that, luckily. And I'm also you're going to be seeing a brand new format to the budget for next year for this year's coming up budget. I'm working on that right now. So, it has
been a little disruptive, but Jim and I are already starting to look at and work through the budget exercise that we would have to do for the 2728 budget here in public. So, we are working through that right now. >> Okay. And I don't think we need to have a separate presentation by this unless anybody in council wants to. But, you
know, I I'd have a curiosity like how are we going to how are we going to do this non-binding 10% um budget reduction exercise? Are you going to call out to each department and just I you know I'd be curious to see how that works before we get into the details of budget season.
>> I'm very curious to see how that works also, Mr. Mayor. Uh but as Heather noted, we've actually been talking about it since that that bill was passed and uh we're actually uh internally doing our own little exercise uh this year on it to prepare. And what we want to do is
first be statutoily compliant and then provide the information in a manner that's um as straightforward uh as possible in in that particular exercise. >> Okay, great. Thank you very much. Sounds like a job for artificial intelligence too. We keep reading about all these
amazing programs and then I talk about it with um town clerk frequently uh that are not a substitute for the human beings but you know are are greatly assisting in terms of what they do everything from you know coming up with ideas like that to answering phones. So um
>> yes sir >> that requirement does it make a distinction between the general fund and the capital budget or you can wrap them all together. >> It's I did not see a distinguishment between the different types. It's all appropriations. >> So in in theory I'm not saying you're
going to do it the entire reduction for the purpose of this exercise could be in capital or it could be in general. Right? in theory, but >> Okay. No, I Okay. Just wanted to understand what restrictions you were under on that. So, >> I appreciate it. Thank you.
>> Okay. Public safety department, >> assistant chief. Mayor, >> good morning. How are you, >> Mr. Vice Mayor, members of council? Very good. How are you? >> Um, other than the submitted report, I have no updates to that. If anyone has any questions, >> any questions for our public safety
department representative? Yes, >> vice mayor. >> So, we had the tragic incident of, if the newspaper is correct, where a person on a mo moped was killed down at Beachland and a A1A.
Is there anything we're doing different in terms of enforcement on mopeds or anything we need or need to contemplate to do or other vehicles uh like that? you because you you see a lot of ebikes and and things of of that nature or is just
>> We do I mean all of our officers that are out there are encouraged to if they're free conduct traffic enforcement. In addition, we do have a dedicated traffic enforcement officer. Um as a matter of fact, in about a month's time when school is out, he's been focusing during the day. He's going
to switch to afternoon and evening hours uh roughly 12 to 10 p.m. and his days are going to vary uh since school's out. >> Okay. >> Anything else? Thank you. Stay safe out there and thank you for all you do. >> Thank you all.
>> Uh town attorney, Mr. Sweeney. >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor, Council. Uh just want to follow up on really the legislative process where we are. First and foremost, the the House bill that we previously talked about, 1451, uh as of this morning, still has not been
presented to the governor. Um so that's still pending. And as an overall view, uh there are 167 bills that have been passed by both houses that have not been presented yet to the governor. Those are just still sitting. Uh separately, there
are uh 13 bills currently with the governor. Uh many of which were presented 2 days ago on the 21st. Um really there's very few of them that
would be applicable uh to the town. Um but maybe most important um as I said, those remaining 167 have not even been presented to him yet. uh contemporaneous with this. As council is aware from my last update and as you're aware, the
budget for the upcoming year for the state of Florida has not been passed. Uh there is a special session uh that will be starting on uh the 28th that only pertains to the following items. Redistricting of the US House
maps, artificial intelligence, and it's been referred to as an AI bill of rights. a medical freedom measures uh related to vaccine requirements. Um and that's it. A special session in Florida is required to be specific to delineated topics. It is not like the general
legislative session. And as of uh yesterday, uh both the Senate President and the Speaker both have not even given a date for when the budget special session would occur. So, following up on not only pending legislation that has been approved but not signed, but also
as Heather was just talking about, uh we are all left guessing what exactly is going to happen over the next um roughly uh 8 to 12 weeks um because again that has to be signed by July 1st. So, there are any questions I'm happy to answer. I will be attending the local government
attorney seminar this uh next two days. Sure. Be speaking with colleagues about all of these various issues. And as you said, mayor, it's hard to know what's real, what's not real, and what's in between. >> To to quote a conference call I was on last week, um and I'll do my best to do
the accent. Um up there in Tallahassee, there's a whole lot of horse trading going on. So, uh that's what's going on probably in terms of setting the sessions, right? So, yes, sir. Okay. Anything for Mr. Sweeney on matters legal? None. Okay. uh town manager
report and you're also going to include a parking ordinance review on this. Thank you. >> Um I don't have anything additional, Mr. Mayor. What I was going to note uh related to the uh parking ordinance uh for uh for trucks and I I mentioned that earlier, so I don't have anything additional. >> Okay, terrific. Thank you very much. Um
council committee reports or non-action items. Um starting from uh Councilman Teddesco, if you've been to one of your >> Thank you. I attended the Treasure Coast Regional League of Cities meeting last week in Fort Pierce. Meeting was very
well attended. A lot of people showed up. The main subject was a presentation on grant writing. Mindy Collier, who is employed actually by the Florida League of Cities, is the grants coordinator and
she's put together a toolkit online and uh Heather and I shared that yesterday to bone up. It's an amazing website that is really good at finding grants and then writing them and then it also has a a PDF file on those that were
successfully written as models for people to help to it. Uh Mindy is also available for one-on-one consulting uh at no charge to any cities and she uh I found her very very knowledgeable on
the subject and uh the Q&A session after her presentation was you couldn't stump the band with any of the questions that she was given. So I think this might be a useful uh opportunity for us to enlarge our grant process. And uh
somebody whispered in my ear that lots of people are responsible. Basically Heather is the one that is kind of leading the charge these days. So she has the information and we discussed that yesterday and I think that I think we'll find that useful. Do you agree?
Another subject that came up that I thought was interesting and maybe not totally applicable, let's hope to Indian River Shores was the possibility of putting together a workshop put on by the Treasure Coast Regional League on data centers and they have found a
consultant that would be willing to put on a workshop. There's a lot of implications when you have a data center coming to your neighborhood and uh this person is capable I guess of uh sorting
their way through all the different implications that are involved some environmental some zoning some power systems related some water issues. Uh so uh I don't know that we're going to have a data center in Indian River Shores, but there's certainly plenty of others
being applied for in uh in the county at this point. So that was the those are the highlights of the meeting. Any questions? >> Thank you. >> The um uh Bureau Beach utilities commission now meets every other month.
It was supposed to meet in April. um that meeting did not occur. Um I believe it's being adjourned to the first week of May. Um and I think that's going to be the first opportunity we will hear about a um and an analysis of how the
cost associated with the waste management facility um may trickle down to the end users. So nothing to report today, but hopefully something to report at our next meeting in May. Thank you. Uh Treasure Coast Council of
Local Governments met uh and then we'll meet again next week. Um Treasure Coast Council of Local Governments is kind of like League of Cities, very similar agendas. We just have school board members and county commissioners there as well. Um the uh there was no
presentation. Interestingly enough, u this had been discussed in council before Senate Bill 48 died. That was the accessory dwelling unit which would have required even in the town of Indian River Shores um an ADU which sounds great but it's basically you could put a
what do they call them? He sheds she sheds in the backyard and say my mother lives there and you'd have to tolerate it. Nothing we can do zoning wise. So um and I I believe as as written the bill would not even allow homeowners associations to disrupt that. So um good
thing that that bill died. Um on the uh item of uh data centers um the um the thought was presented primarily by me that we had we we've been getting presentations in these government
meetings basically telling the government side of the story of the data centers and so I thought it would be interesting to see you know what an industry representative would say about the parade of horriles that are being tossed out about data centers you know excessive water use, which you then find
out for data centers, it's a really a comparably sized golf course uses about as much water. Um, even less if it's what's called a closed loop system, the low drone hum that affects wildlife, mostly snakes. Okay. So um we may be
having a presentation uh one of the um uh members believes he can find an industry representative to come in and kind of you know give a a presentation on the industry side of it so that we can make informed decisions. You know if we get bad information and you know it's it's it's you know panicky um and it's
not quite factually accurate we're we're not unable to make good decisions. I I don't believe we're ever going to have a data center here, but as area residents, we do have an interest because there's talk about data centers going in uh the other side of 95. They do create jobs um
and really well-paying jobs uh and um you know, be be good to have that presence here. So, I'll I'll keep you all posted on that. The other um the other two items I want to point out are that uh Treasure Coast Council Local Governments will be doing a uh
scholarship of $1,000 per year uh for a qualifying student. So, anybody in the community has a student that's, you know, in need that falls kind of between the gap of, you know, your parents can pay for everything and um the loans will
pay for everything. There's a whole bunch of students in the middle, particularly those that are go that go into public safety. And I think I think this this council will be uh receptive to people going into ENT and police and fire um and the healing arts as well to
kind of cover it. Um there was much discussion and you can use it for tuition, you can use it to buy a laptop, you can use it for books, you can use it for any of the commuting costs, any of the expenses. So uh I think we're pretty proud about that happening. Um and then the last thing is insurance costs. So
there's uh an organization, Mr. Mr. Harper that you'll probably be hearing from and if you don't, I'll follow up on it. We were just fell through the cracks to create a larger pool of smaller municipalities to um to defay insurance costs. So, some some of the numbers are
just shocking. 400% increases in health insurance for some municipalities. I know we've been able to to do better than that, but uh uh I I think it it it we're probably well served keeping our finger in that in that pot just in case,
you know, there's a um a spike in rates and, you know, if the the greater risk pool is assigned and we can jump in on that and save some rates, why not? So that could be part of our 10% ether, right? So >> all right, >> regarding this potential discussion on
data centers, I'd be interested in the industry's perspective on electric power use. Different things have happened across the country in northern Virginia. They are loaded with new data centers and rates have skyrocketed there. I know that the state is trying to figure out a
way to compartmentalize those rates, but anything you hear in that I think would be useful as well. So, >> absolutely. And those are notice public meetings. So, any anyone can attend or you can you can even dial in. So, I'll make sure to check the presentation and >> all right. >> You know, with the Kabuki dance we have
to do. I've got to tell Janice who can then tell everybody else and then say don't reply. Um so, >> all right. Um >> with Well, >> yes. I'm sorry. Go ahead. >> Uh we had an NO meeting that's Metropolitan Planning Organization. It's a transportation planning board for the county. They just ratified the road
projects that are on the priority list which really have not changed over the last several years. Beach and shores uh I already talked about. One thing that I did give everybody's it's pro it's at the bottom of your pile here. I handed it out this morning is a a write up on a
ransomware attack on water treatment plant. The reason why I'm bringing it here under sunshine law I can't communicate with Mr. out the area on our utilities commission representative directly but I wanted to make you aware of that first of all my background is a bond market I worked there for a third
of a century credit rating agencies are looking very closely at cyber security risk and wrapping them into their ratings so uh in reading one of my industry publications that mentioned this city in uh Manote uh what was that South or North Dakota I can't remember
okay and uh what they talked about a breach to their system. And what caught my eye was I saw the word scattera s or acronym SC cada and I recognized that as something that Bureau Beach uh uses. So what happened their software was
attacked and they had to go to manual operations the backup servers. They actually had to go out to the water towers and ensure they were maintaining pressurization. So, you may or may not recall that there was a uh Iranians were
breaching a particular system and I brought it up in the utilities commission meeting a number of years back. They were breaching a Pittsburgh utility and then Vero Beach admitted in the public meeting that they got attacked as well. So, I sent this information to uh Mr. uh Bolton. So you
you have the email traffic at the back of of this here. And uh so uh one thing that's mentioned there I'll put in the public record you he you finally responded. It seems that Ron is attacking a lot of Allen Bradley PLC's.
PLC's stand for program programmable logic controllers. We only have a few in our system. They're not on critical infrastructure. So, I just wanted to bring that to your attention since again under the sunshine law, I can't send you an email directly and h and you know
have a have a conversation back and forth, but I wanted to make you aware of it just to kind of keep an eye on that. So, >> thank you. And u coincidentally, Minat is um the location of one of the most strategic United States Air Force bases as well, >> Minute Man, right? >> Yes, exactly. So, uh if you think it's
just kind of testing the waters, um probably there's more going on. Uh, Councilman Carol. >> Yes, thank you. I attended the Economic Development Council meeting on the 21st. Um, there were uh three uh outstanding
presentations. um at that meeting. Uh the first and and each one had to do with ways in which um uh various parts of the county,
primarily educational related is working conjunction with the economic development council to promote Indian River County as a place to come and work and thrive. uh not only for the workers but uh in this particular case principally for the
families. Uh the first presentation was by Dr. Moore, superintendent and um his comments were very similar to the ones he delivered uh before council uh at a recent meeting. Um the second
was from president of Indian River uh State College. uh also an excellent presentation. Um and one of the things that he pointed out that uh was surprising to everyone in attendance uh at least me actually
25,000 students at Indian River State College. And then finally a presentation by the head of the workforce development board. And once again, all these um uh each one of the presentations has
to do with um coordination between uh education advancement uh for families and how that works uh how they're how they're working in conjunction with the economic development council uh and
other members uh for the county to bring uh businesses uh to the county and support those which are already here. That concludes my report. >> Thank you, Councilman Carol. All right. Um, call to the audience.
This is the time where the public can come to the podium and address uh what's on your mind, anything. Uh, all we ask is that you identify yourself by name and you you don't have to give an exact address, but your
neighborhood and town would be terrific. Thank you. >> Hi, I'm Matt Hutmaker. 560 Sable Oak Lane in Bermuda Bay. Good morning, council, senior managers for this for the town and fellow
citizens. I want to bring up a public safety possible problem. I am a runner, walker, and biker alongside the on the sidewalk of A1A every day. I do a lot of miles
and there's a specific possible injury situation that occurs very frequently and that is people coming out onto a A1A from this side because this is where the sidewalk
is. When they're turning south, when they're turning right, they look carefully to the left because that's where the traffic's coming from. that might hit them. That's a d that's a danger to them. And I don't I don't have any percentage
numbers, but many do not stop, which is breaking the law. And even the ones that do stop often don't even look to the right where the pedestrians, runners, and bikers
are. And so, um, I have seen at least four or five close situations. I I saw one bicycle
rider that was really shook up and another runner that I know by name and same thing. We talked about it. He was really shook up. Very, but he wasn't hit. I've spoken to a few uh
uh drivers who stopped and or didn't stop, but uh you know there's nothing a private citizen can do and it's a law that's not being enforced. the stop sign laws are not being
enforced. And I recommend the following because I don't want to bring a possible problem up without throwing out some solutions. And one would be for Janice to put out the word we talked about uh
getting out to the various uh homeowners associations and that sort of thing. That would help. also put something in the uh report of this meeting that you had an angry citizen come up and make comments. I'm not angry yet, but I will
be if somebody gets >> Yeah, I we we use the word concerned. Concerned citizenship. >> Concerned citizen. And then the final thing is some level of law enforcement. Uh it it doesn't have to be I mean there's obviously more important things
to do but just a few warnings issued would help a lot because I think particularly within the HOAs the word would spread and I will tell you this where the worst cases are and one of them is my neighborhood
of course Bermuda Bay and John's Island a gated community has an additional problem because people had to either stop or slow down at the gate before they got to the stop sign. So, they sort of feel like they've already stopped.
Well, they did, but they weren't able to look uh for pedestrians and biclers. So, that's all I have. Well, thank you for your comments. Um all of your suggestions are great. I don't think there's any any objection to implementing them all. Uh we have um
Assistant Chief Ryer here, too. And um I'm sure you all have some thoughts on this and and how we can go ahead and do it. I've noticed the same exact thing, frankly. Um and um I think you're being kind when you say most people look in one direct. Some people don't look in any direction. They just pull out. And
uh and I think it's I think you you're spot on. They feel like if they've stopped at the gate of their HOA or they you know they they've stopped at the sidewalk that you know precedes A1A, they've already made their stop and they can just proceed. So, thank you for bringing that up and let's let's work on
a solution for that, you know, together as a council. Yes, sir. >> I think there's actually a a related structural problem and I see this in my um community is that when you come through the gate that lets you out, you then come to a stop sign, but the stop
sign is something like 15 or 20 ft east of the sidewalk. So, I'll come out, stop at the stop sign, then proceed through the stop sign. And sometimes what you don't have great visual access to the right side, left side or right side, but
particularly if you you come to the stop sign, you look to your left, what you see is a hedge, then you go through, you've stopped, now you've gone through, and you're at the sidewalk. And if just a timing thing at that point, if the runner or the cyclist is at the wrong
wrong point, that's how these things happen because it happens too quickly. >> And it may help if the stop sign got closer to closer to the edge of the sidewalk as opposed to being 15 or 20 feet inside of
that. Ours is right ours is right at the sidewalk. I know. And I've also the uh the South River entrance for John's Island, their their sign is also out by the sidewalk. So maybe there are some
that are too far back. And I I don't know if that's a I know I know it's public law that you have to stop for those stop signs. The ones inside the communities are are not enforcable. They're just more or less for convenience and safety. But uh there may
be may be some requirement on how far they are. I don't know. Not my field of expertise. >> All right. Thank you. Um as we always say, it's uh educate, encourage, and force. And um you know, this does remind me of another, you know, we had a
problem with um you know, vehicles uh covering covering the loads and we educated, we encouraged, and then we started writing people up. So, uh, Chief Ryer, perhaps he can at at the next meeting just give an update on, you know, what your observation was and then
we can, uh, we can have a, you know, um, an education on on what we see and maybe if there's something we're going to have to do, that's fine. Uh, I hope to God we don't have to involve FDOT because that's that's going to be a process of months as opposed to, you know, stopping
a dangerous situation immediately. So, uh, thank you for bringing that up and we'll we'll follow up at the next council meeting on that. >> Anybody else? Yes, ma'am. Hello, Mity Zimmerly from Pebble Lane. Two questions.
If the state required this, why don't they help fund it? Question one. Question two. This cost of $1.945 million is divided by how many homeowners on those two streets? That's all. Thank you.
>> All right. Thank you. >> The first question I can help you with, I can I can give you the email addresses of our state representatives. Um, but we we don't like unfunded mandates either. uh we get them all the time and at the end of the day you wind up quitting the
bill because that's reflected in the mill rate you know in the budget that we have. So uh it's a it's a fact of life um and a bad fact of life on on the other one you can yeah I know you're being rhetorical but we do have the numbers of the people that are affected and the town manager can provide that to
you with the folks that are involved in that. Just briefly on the uh Pebble Lane question, individually that uh cost is $85,0255 and the individual cost. You you just you can't divide that number by the houses on the street because you have to take out the road paving portion of it
and just look at the septic to sewer portion of it. Um and Mr. Bolton, who was here before, is is working on finalizing those numbers. Um, and hopefully we'll have uh exact numbers shortly after uh our August 30th pre-construction meeting uh which is next week. So I'm hoping the week after
next uh we'll have a a much better idea though. I believe that the Pebble Lane numbers, if you would, were closer to Apologize for the delay and and please don't hold me to this, but I think the Pebble Lane uh number
assessments um I I don't want to say and speak out of turn because I don't have the the finals and I don't want to um give an unreasonable expectation on a number. Um but very shortly the plan is for each
property owner to have a specific you know document that shows this is exactly what your cost is uh based on you know your property and and the connection and it's different the overall costs are different for beachcom or pebble. Yeah, thank you. And that that's a good point because, you know, um the lawyer side of
my brain's taking over, but that's important to add to the basis of your home as well. So, um you know, for future transactions. So, um he'll have it. But I I think she was being more rhetorical and you know, if there's a breakout of, you know, what's covered by road funds as opposed to what the actual cost of the septic to sewer is, that
would be um that would be I think helpful to some of these folks. So, >> and and and we have that. We'll definitely we'll publish all that. >> Okay. >> Brian, I have a question. Yes. >> What is the law relative to riding bicycles on sidewalks?
>> I can I can bring that up. I have it on my phone since I've had some >> Mr. rather uh angry discussions with with people. So, just give me here a >> uh just got to share >> and and the follow-up question would be
He doesn't have to look it up. >> Yeah. >> Uh Florida statute 316 decimal 2065 bicycle regulations subsection 9. A person propelling a vehicle by human power upon along a sidewalk or across a
roadway and upon a crosswalk has all the rights and duties applicable to a pedestrian under the same circumstances. Subsection 10. A per person propelling a bicycle upon along a sidewalk or across a roadway upon and along a crosswalk shall yield the rightway to any
pedestrian and shall give an audible signal before overtaking passing such pedestrians since I I' I've been told by people driving cars I don't belong on the sidewalk. >> Uh follow-up question. Is there any
enforcement of that? Well, you have to see people do it in order to enforce it. So, I you know, >> I withdraw the question. >> No, you don't have to withdraw it. It's just, you know, it's fine. No, there's a bigger question here that we're not going to answer today. And that's, you
know, ebikes, you know, how do they fall into all of this? And uh, you know, we there wasn't really an appetite to handle this last year, but I think at some point we're going to be forced to confront that. Um, the one thing I can tell you for sure, and public safety is good about this, is um, you know, for
for parents that give their kids a golf cart and let them drive it on, you know, A1A and on sidewalks, we're, you know, we've cracked down on that cuz that's seen some pretty dangerous situations with that. Not with just cars, but with pedestrians as well. Um, and so there's,
uh, I I love kids, but, you know, there's kind of a frightening sight of a 14-year-old with a golf cart and the regulator flying down A1A sidewalks. So, um, well, um, >> I have equal fears of multiple bicycles
in tandem, three and four and five sometimes in the bike lanes. And I'm not sure about right away on that, but I suspect that uh, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Out of the bike lane. >> Yeah. Oh, out of the bike lane. I'm talking about you take I don't think
there's more than two or maybe three bikes that can be side by side in a bike lane, but there's often many more than that. >> Yeah, I don't know the answer to that. I um you know, I would I would consult with our but a bicycle is considered a motor vehicle. So, you know, they can
ride on the road if they want and u the bike lane's really there for safety and convenience is how I understand it. My spouse has very strong ideas of when and when I cannot use my horn. >> Well, well, just one other thing on on that point. The state passed a law maybe
two years ago that you're required to give a if you're driving a motor vehicle required to give a three-foot clearance to a bicycle, which allows you to go across the yellow line to to to exercise that motion. So, a lot of
people I don't think know that. So, they t have a tendency, well, I got to stay in the lane, so I'm going to be right on top of you. So, >> all right. Anybody else? Yes, ma'am. >> Hi, I'm Sheila Seville. I am I live on Surf Lane, which is part of the Pebble
Beach community, which includes Pebble Lane. And the cost obviously is significant to each of us as homeowners. We're talking $30 to $40,000. I feel like there's a lack of communication um to our community. We're not a
property owners or we're not a homeowner association. We're a property owner association. And I don't think that we get notified to our board members when something like this is going on. We have to rely on, you know, newspapers and look at town council meetings if we
happen to do that, which not everybody does. Um, so I feel like we we need a better communication process with our community and I do not believe that anybody on Pebble Lane received any kind of notification um about this other than maybe two years
ago, a year and a half, two years ago when there was a general meeting. A year and a half is a long time to go without any input from the community. and I'd just like to request or see how we can get our emails on a a list or something
like that. >> Did you attend theformational meeting? Um, when was that? About 6 weeks ago or >> that was a little different. That was the mandatory uh pre-bid meeting for for the vendors. Um, but it it you just do
you actually have an HOA with a dedicated email >> property owner association with an email address >> for Pebble Lane? Yes. Okay. just >> Pebble Beach, which Pebble Lane is part of three streets, 39 homes that are part of that community. >> You get us any get us contact information, we'll we'll put you in the
loop with everything. >> Okay. >> Yeah. My understanding was we did, you know, we went out to notify each each of the HOAs. If we didn't, um that's on us. We'll correct that. But I think we did. I >> Well, I think we found out two days ago about this was a topic on the agenda and
we found out from someone on Beach Comr. Um, so we have seven people here today. I probably should have spoke up earlier so that we could have had a little more input, but um, we are here now and we are very concerned about the cost as you
can imagine. And I also looked at the spreadsheet um, that we were given that shows the breakdown of the cost and sharing the road cost um, with the sewer. And there's there's some costs on there that I don't think should be part of the sewer cost. It should be part of
the road cost. Um, Surf Lane was repaved a number of years ago, but Pebble and um, Reef, thank you. Um, have not been paved yet, but I I think some of the cost is being shifted off to sewer and I don't think that's right. So, I want to know
when we would get an opportunity to discuss the detailed breakdown of the cost to each homeowner. >> Um, for our part, uh, council, Mr. mayor when we get those f and this is all coming from the city of her beach as the as the water provider. When uh those are
provided and and we get those and you get those we should all get those collectively and they should be uh something dedicated to each particular property property number address and so on. Um it would be at that point in time that I would imagine we could discuss those breakdowns. Uh those breakdowns
were uh were generated uh by really by the engineering uh team to determine what particular detailed item was either uh shared cost or a dedicated cost to one or or the other.
>> Okay. Well, I guess getting our email on there is the most important thing, but we would appreciate support from the council and whatever we can do to keep the cost down for individual homeowners. Um, >> and I will just note briefly on that just to reiterate again. Um when you
look at uh when you get the shreds fee when you ultimately look at the cost for what the road is um while that is being paid by road funds and taxpayer dollars essentially generally um if the town was not involved in the road paving project that would be an obligation that the
individual property owners would have to pay as well because the city would be doing the road paving, be doing the road work, would be doing the septic to sewer work uh standing alone and therefore All of those costs would be borne by uh the
residents split up. However, the town is doing the road work and doing the storm water remediation installation work. Uh so that that particular cost is not being um >> but we are paying taxes. >> You are. Yes, ma'am. And those roads were going to have to be done anyways. >> Exactly.
>> Right. >> All right. Well, thank you. Thank you. The the way the way communications um work is we do do you get the routine the weekly emails from the town because a lot of our communications come through that. >> I do get the uh so there were but I'm just one person. Not everybody does
subscribe to that. >> No, I know. Um so you know the the email communications we do I think a pretty good job of letting people know what's on us. We we've had this before council a number of times uh to discuss it. We do our best to keep the cost down on this. As I said, we're not happy that we
get these unfunded mandates as well. And you know, nobody nobody takes into account that our town administrative staff also has to coordinate all this work with the city of Vero Beach. So, um, we'll we'll be happy when this is done and we'll be we hopefully >> Well, I do appreciate what you all do.
>> No, I thank you and >> we want your support. That's >> and we and we want your feedback as well. So, I thank you very much and if you have any additional questions or information as this develops, we'll be happy to provide it to you. Yes, sir. >> Paul Chatterton. I live on Pebble Lane.
Um, I guess three things. One, I guess there's no possibility of using the step system anymore. I don't I had those discussions um right after this legislation occurred. Um and uh that's exclusively within the purview
of the city as the provider and they have determined on Beach Comr Lane and Pebble Lane that because of the proximity of the central sewer that they do not want to use uh step systems there. Um and that's a there's lots of different uh opinions about whether it's
better or worse uh in terms of the system. um not an engineer, but I I view a step system as essentially a sort of a wastewater treatment plant on your property, though you know that that those items are uh moving out. But those
discussions occurred and the city decided that for those two roads, they were going to go to um central sewer. >> There is a difference in cost. The step system is is less um uh as a finite cost. Now, uh the question about uh upkeep and maintenance for the step
system and power and so on over the life of the system is a I mean is a different story, but that was a determination that was made by the city for Beach Comr and for Pebble >> as well as whether it will be regulated out. You know, don't don't count the legislature out legislature out on
saying, "Well, we said step systems were okay as an interim step. We're now withdrawing step systems and we're requiring you to have a, you know, full sanitary sewer hookup." So there was that danger with that as well. >> Okay. Um grants were mentioned earlier
in the meeting. Has anybody pursuing uh is anybody pursuing finding grants to help offset the cost for the homeowner? The town looked at that. The problem with the town uh relationship in that is that the grants are provided to the municipality that provides the
wastewater systems and that's the city of Vero Beach. Um, I don't want to speak in detail about the wise or the wherefors of what grants they did or did not apply for. I do know that they have a very large wastewater treatment plant
under construction that they're seeking grants for and whether or not there were decisions about what grants to apply for for which projects. But those grants and we we did internally evaluate whether an individual property owner could seek um grant funding uh for the cost and uh at
least in the last grant cycle through D there was nothing related to individual um individual property owner costs unfortunately. >> Okay. Um yeah I guess that's it. >> All right. Thank you all. Good comments.
Thank you for your questions and comments. Anybody else? Uh, you already I'm sorry. Do you already one one one customer for public comment? You had your your time up. So, unfortunately, that's it. So, anybody else?
All right. Yeah. So, just to remind everyone, you get one chance to speak on public comment up to three minutes. So, uh otherwise, you know, we we run the risk of losing control of the meeting. All right. So we are now adjourned and
we will see you on May 28th.