he has to see if he's got a stain because he go the River Club yeah Pete it's the rule of 100 it's the rule of 100 so he's okay absolutely absolutely that's all right we'll call this meeting to order good morning everyone if you
could kindly uh preferably turn your phones off but if not put them on silent or vibrate uh we're going to start today with the invocation from council member Carol we're thankful for this town and its residence we're grateful for all who
work for the betterment of our community and all who serve in its behalf that those who work here and those who serve here be ever mindful of the town's vision and mission statement Grant this Council the Wis confli interest the issues of our time the ability to work
together in harmony even when there is honest disagreement a sense of the welfare and true needs of our people personal peace in our lives and joy in our cast amen amen if you will join us in pledging allegiance to the flag of
the United States of America I flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for stands one nation under God individual with libery and justice for all thank you
very much uh Madam clerk can you call the role by the way we have a um we have our alternative clerk today uh sitting in for Janice Lucy thank you so if you can call the role please mayor Foley here vice mayor awater here council
member Carol here council member alter here council member G here let the record show all members are present all right thank thank you and thank you everyone for coming to the regularly scheduled Town council meeting for the town of Indiana River Shores uh this March 26
2025 uh item two uh I understand there is one request to re reorder or pull an item from the consent agenda other than that is there any we'll get to that in a second but are there any other requests from Council to reorder delete or add items to the
agenda all right there being none vice mayor aler did you have an item you wanted to address yeah on a consent agenda item 5 B is in Bravo approval work authorization in our 2025 all right um so we'll move item 5B
to item 8 C uh that would be the amended motion to approve the consent agenda is there a motion to approve all in favor all right um so we have uh uh next a presentation and a
proclamation to Dr David Moore uh Dr Moore come on up so so important are you to the community that we are actually doing this Proclamation two months in a row so we we did a proclamation last month hoping that uh it would uh assist your
candidacy for the superintendent of the year um out of a Nation how many were up for it sir like 100 100 well there's 15,000 superintendent uh Across the Nation so final four is not bad all right so you made the final four that's better than my picks in the
bracket for the March Madness so mine's busted so it's right so we want to congratulate you and and thank you for you know the um the outstanding job you've done for our community I know we have representatives from The Learning Alliance which uh if anybody in on the
day or in the audience has not had a chance to go and see the work that um The Learning Alliance does and Dr Moore does and his team does to educ the youth in our community I highly encourage you to do it it's it's not just um it's not just rewarding and satisfying to see
where your tax dollars go it's it's it's becoming inspirational so the metrics um I'll I'll leave to you because they keep going on a trajectory up and up and up and every time I mention them um I'm told them out a date they've gotten even better so um we we'll ask you to say a
few words but you know first the proclamation uh reissued today is a proclamation of the town of Indian River Shores recognized ing Dr David K Moore for his achievement as the 2025 superintendent of the Year 2025 uh National superintendent of the
Year finalist and uh Consortium of Florida education star superintendent that's an awful lot of accolades I'm but I'm sure even those I'm I'm sure even those are not enough um and I'd like to end in the dendam and just thank thank the people from The Learning Alliance that are here as well and I hope I
didn't miss anybody who's part of the Education team coming coming to us today um we don't have many school age children in our community in fact I was once told that I'm pretty close to school age uh for our community um but we do we do appreciate all of the
benefits you know an educated youth does in our community and and thank you sincerely from the bottom of our hearts for all the hard work that you do and any any continued uh contributions or improvements we can we can assist and we're we're here to help so thank you very much andrul
[Applause] thank you so much of very e is e all want we go back to work terrific thank you
again and thank you again and I'll note this is the only time I've I've been addressed by the principal where I haven't gotten in trouble so appreciative of that so um all right moving on to item 3B we have a sea turbo nesting season overview presentation by
our code officer uh officer Jake mikr so officer mik crans the floor is yours good morning so this is a very brief overview of this upcoming actually
actively um sea turtle season now it's going to be nothing like what Quinton and Jessica has done in the past but just a little overview the season began on March 1st and ends October 31st every year the art artificial lights that are
seen from the beach can confuse the baby turtles um find the way back to the ocean when they hatch um they confuse the artificial light of the Moon and it actually they go towards artificial light more than the moon
statistically um exterior Amber or red lights have little to no impact on baby turtles um these can also be found on the fwc's website um for certification and approved fixtures and Bulbs um this is one way that ocean
front property owners can assist in recovery it's probably the least expensive as well this is a notice in bercher that we put out on the Weekly Newsletter for the residents to look at um just gives a
little overview of use those sea turtle forly lights or don't use them at all um like I said the approved inser veried bulbs and fixtures can be found on fwc's website which is also um seen under the program phone
number area that's the website that can find all the information Town utilizes a thirdparty vendor eai to conduct detailed lighting surveys um during the season three surveys will be conducted the first survey the preseason
was completed on February 4th prior to the beginning of the Season just to get a baseline um the second survey will be conducted sometime during the Middle the season usually between May and June and then one near the end of the
season uh General prohibitions per the town ordinance in FWC and Florida Statutes they pretty much line up with each other um no exterior points source of light shall be directly visible from the ground on any area of the beach no
point source of light shall directly illuminate any area of the beach seaward of the primary Dune the operation of motorized vehicles is prohibited except for emergency vehicles and others approved by FWC in the town um no horseback riding I haven't seen that too
much around here um and no campfires um so I actually Quinton from the county and Jessica they showed me this encapsulate Turtle safe light guide card it should be found in your packet
um it's used to view a standard light bulb it shows the point of light source um if you take them and if you look up at a regular light you can see the illumination of it but if you look at the exit light it'll show
nothing that's the use of the the red and the Amber coverings um The Friendly lighting will appear blue green or purple and Amber or red lights are not visible here is the preseason survey
report from this year um that e provided us it gives location coordinates date and time um property type address the violation location light and
if it violates in your's Town ordinance um out of the 36 survey reports only 11 violated the town's ordinance so it's a pretty good jump from last year to this year starting out
um the 11 violations of the Town ordinance preseason and here's a list there's a l there it is there's a list of the ones that actually violate or are in viol valtion of the ordinance and notices were sent out to these um
residents and I've been in contact with at least three of them who say that they are completing them or have already completed it um and that'll be hopefully shown on the next survey um here's an example report from
eai it's very detailed um property type how to fix the issue um location and if the light source is visible from the beach it'll indicate yes or no also the light source illuminates a portion
of the beach either yes or no this is a example of the notice of violation that's sent to the residents um which references the town
ordinances and um you know to be aware of the lighting that could potentially hurt the Turtles and next is the one of the emails from a property management company indicating that they will be
fixing the light issues um to come in compliance and that's all I have for that very much uh are there any questions for uh Mr Mike CR uh vice mayor [Music]
I presume that you send the results of the survey and any follow-up actions to Quinton Bergman over at the county um he doesn't request them but it would probably be a good idea to start doing that that way he's in the loop since I'm on beach insures preservation
advisory committee and this comes up all the time and and you know frankly we should get credit for the great work that you're doing so I how long do we give someone to rectify
an issue um typically it's 30 days okay um but that can be you know sooner or later depending on how severe it is okay El thank you very much um greatly appreciate it must have been kind of
challenging doing this with all the sand being deposited but uh now that that project's done I guess you can navigate around there pretty quickly now huh yes sir so good great thanks keep up the good work really appreciate it thank you bye all right item four comments from
the public regarding agenda items and by way of clarification for those of you who are here for the um request to modify the River Club that those comments will be later later in this meeting so we're talking now about just general agenda items any comments on
agenda items no comments All right so with that we'll move to item number five is there a motion to um let me see do we have we don't have any any votable items here so we can do this by acclamation is there a motion to
approved consent agenda items 5 a CDE e FG and H move second all favor any opposed all right unanimous uh mayor's report we have a busier than usual agenda today so I'll
keep it short and sweet um legislative agenda items um I've asked Our Town attorney and our town manager to follow closely a a bill um that came out of committee 14 to Zer
uh which would set some parameters that would be beneficial in my view uh to the town as R payers under the franchise agreement for utility services uh it would essentially cap or eliminate uh sirch charges for out of jurisdiction Services
provided um and that would of course be of benefit to us uh there is a um Florida League of cities perhaps council member Dane will be talking about this later but uh there's a bill of great concern for for all
um all municipalities under um a bill which sounds nice the live local act but um it's it's basically an attack on Municipal abilities to regulate local zoning and so there are some really problematic aspects to it uh the Florida
Lea City and numerous other uh other organizations um are lined up to provide input and to uh and to oppose the um the worst aspects to it which would include these things called accessory dwelling units I know the vice May's talked about
it and I believe council member danne did it at some point um the fear is if we're not allowed to uh zone out an access an accessory dwelling unit uh those can be put in we have no no power to regulate it and then those can become short-term rentals so guess what uh we
have a greater burden on um on our Municipal services and our police or fire or EMTs or roads um as written we would not even be able to regulate parking and the number of parking spaces adjusting for that so it's a matter of concern we have to follow it very very
carefully and I would ask the town attorney to um to kindly update us on that um I think uh you know I think it's probably uh worth our while to circulate um correspondents now that
these things are coming out of committee to pick the two or three uh bills that affect us most and express our opinion I would ask that to be drafted and circulated to council I say only two or three because if you include more than two or three it just becomes noise uh so let's pick the ones that are of
importance to us um we can get some input on that um in a few moments for other council members uh the other one that um caught my atten mention was the ability to I'm sorry the uh attempts to increase the liability limits on
sovereign immunity which basically means that the current limits of liability for the town if it were sued can then be increased um to 1 million3 million and then they would have an automatic increase in October of 2025 to 1.1 million to 3.1 million it's currently
100,000 300,000 um we don't get sued a heck of a lot but you know know if um if if um you know there are incidences then it comes out of the taxpayers pockets um I'm allowed to say this because I'm a recovering lawyer myself but um some of
these things look just geared to benefit you know greatly uh trial lawyers groups and um of course they have a very powerful Lobby so I think we need to include that and make the case for the town that we don't want our taxpayers being subject to uh having to pay for
legal claims uh also it would eliminate uh the need to have a special bill which is another hurdle to get payment on these claims and would just allow uh payment for these things so it would reduce the um administrative uh mechanisms that are an
impediment to uh these claims being attractive to PL dis lawyers um uh Congressman Herod dolos um our newly elected Congress moves recently here on a visit um Bo has it the vice mayor met and had a nice ation with him
um he can talk to to that when comes to his item but U I think he's um demonstrated that he's um he's he's taking to Heart uh coming to our area and and getting input from us on items of importance uh I know he had a busy busy schedule that day but he found time
to be in our very own town and I'll let the vice mayor talk about that um hurricane prep as Council notices in their packet we were well ahead of schedule then in Prior years um Things become in your mind particularly after Milton and the near Miss of the tornado
that hit just out the town so I'm I'm glad to say that um at least I'm I'm very very impressed and satisfied with the speed and anticipation of what we need to do to prepare for hurricane season um as these things go the more you prepare the less the less it happens
but that would be a good thing to have happen uh with that I'll uh ask if there are any questions of me from any of the council members if not we can move on to other council member items or comments that they wish to make nothing all right any Council
people have or vice mayor please uh just following up very quick on your comments I I did uh meet with the congressman's right out here we walked down to the beach we meeting mostly uh folks from Indian River County staff and and the
county commissioner uh fler was here as well and uh you know I appreciate it the fact that he is focusing on Indian River County didn't necessarily occur with his predecessor we walked down along the
beach and he he said in my opinion all right things about the importance of of beach renourishment for our community so that's that's what I say right anybody else uh thank you vice mayor alard for making the time available to do that that's um it's important thank you um
all right we will now move on to um items of discussion with possible or probable action uh we have ordinance number 577 the marijuana dispensary ordinance it's the second reading um Mr Sweeney
you have to do your do your thing read the title comply with the statute sir yes sir thank you mayor this is ordinance number 577 an ordinance of the Town Council of the town of Indian resource Florida Banning marijuana dispensary facilities adding the definitions for marijuana marijuana dispensary and for other purposes providing for severability providing for
scrier errors repeal of all conflicting ordinances codification and an effective date this is the second reading thank you all right uh it's a second reading is there any public comment before Council has comment on it or takes
action all right um is there any Council comment on this as a second reading if there is none is there a motion to approve is there a second second all right let's have a roll call vote mayor poy I I May alwat hi council member
Carol hi council member Al hi council member Dane hi let the record show the motion to approve pass unanimously okay so henceforth anybody who wants to sell pot in the town of Indian River Shores um you have a statute you have to comply with so um
looks um looks like we'll be uh in good shape for that going forward um item 8 B uh ordinance number 578 this is a mod ification to planned residential development River Club track um a note this is a little
different we've done these before but this is what's referred to as a quazi Judicial hearing so uh the council is acting as a quazi Judicial body I'm going to let the town attorney you know give a a summary explanation of what um of what that all entails but you know
essentially um we have a um a responsibility as an adjudicatory body here and not a legislative body uh to to review uh the request of modification to the planned residential development at the River Club um we have to uh adhere
to uh the items of record we have to have a well I'll let you do it but my memory is you know substantial reasonable competent evidence that we base our decision on uh and um we will we will be turning to that you know shortly um we also have to disclose
whether or not we've had any expart contacts that's a $20 word for has anybody called you on this that's on one side or the other um I'll disclose that I have not um has any other member of council received any expart
Communications council member alard uh yesterday I was the beach and uh excuse me I was at the bike and pedestrian advisory committee meeting sitting out in the audience and a resident of the community there David Cy was
there he asked me he says are you going to be at the meeting the town council meeting tomorrow where the River Club item comes up I said yes and that was the end of our conversation so just an abundance of caution just mention that all right thank you so that's uh that's
on the record anything else nobody else all right um Mr Sweeney why don't you um uh address the items that I missed and then we can proceed this is the first reading uh Mr mayor council just to uh briefly emphasize the
things first of all the EXP parte thank you for disclosing any uh and and answering that um also I would ask that uh each council member just affirm that they uh can and will have an open mind and base it on competent substantial
evidence is there any reason why any member of council would not be able to do that hearing none I think we're fine there the last part I'll mention is as you said mayor this is similar to a court proceeding so we will have a presentation uh by the applicant
um our acting clerk uh will present an oath here in a minute just for them for Testimony purposes for the record and also to clarify anybody that would speak this would be similar to public speaking so they would be limited to three minutes asked that they provide their name and address and would speak on the
topic at the end of that that part of the hearing we would conclude bring it back to council just like we always do you would have deliberation and then bring it for a vote so at this time Mr Mayor I would just only ask that the our acting clerk swear in anybody that's necessary okay anybody who's going to present talk
stand be sworn in and we can um we can then proceed do you swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you God right all right thank you we're we're ready to go um at at the outset I
just want to say um we have thank yous um for and of course I have an open mind but I just want to you know regardless of of uh the decision making that goes on it's always easy for us to do this when we see the quality of work that's presented to us by our town staff who
did an excellent job on this and I'll even throw the legal staff in there as well you did an excellent job doing this uh and also the um uh the applicant you know the the papers were very uh uh very very capably done and very clear and it was very easy for me at least to figure
out what was going on so thank you for the professionalism of the presentation I'd also like to thank the River Club folks for uh neatly defining the issues that are of importance to you and uh I know this is I think this is our first formal time having a look at
this but we had some Communications in the past about you know the way things have gone and it looks like there's been you know a pretty good meeting of the minds in terms of you know how this is how this is going to proceed so uh thank you very much for uh making our jobs easier uh I would invite the
representatives of the applicant to come forward please state your name and your affiliation and um uh give a a brief presentation on uh what it is you're seeking to do um when you're doing this bear in mind that um you know you don't
want to talk yourself out of something either you know so um you don't have to you don't have to go on too too long we have uh we've all read the materials we're all I think um everybody can speak for themselves but we're we're pretty diligent in terms of reading the materials before us so if you'd come
forward and uh just make your presentation briefly we we'd appreciate that good morning mayor and Council um representing Mr mcki I'm Steve mhler I'm a professional engineer in the State of Florida with mellar Mohler our address
is 1655 27th Street uh buau Beach um Pete did a great job of explaining the application we're here for a conceptual uh PRD modification for track UA to allow it to be developed with single
family rather than um the multif family that's on there today so we've submitted the conceptual plan which you've seen uh the parameters of the zoning which are proposed for the site that would be for the single family or listed on the plan
uh so if there's any U um questions about the uh project we'd be glad to answer thank you very much are there questions from Council we want to start from right to left we call this the lawyer side of the day because
anything I don't have none for me no questions all right terrific um you know I I do have one one comment one question have you had an opportunity to take a look at uh the letter from the River Club representative though they have some
items that um I believe four items that uh are of concern to them can you be spe I have but can you be specific about which one you want me to address well I mean I don't think I don't think I don't have a particular interest and um uh in any of them but
I'm what I'm looking for is as I'm deliberating this to ensure that um there's nothing that pops out to you that says my goodness we can't do this or that's that's a deal breaker for us uh these things that are set forth in uh
Miss Claus's letter and I'll give her a chance to address it in the second uh look like items that would be you know the subject of good faith negotiation between the parties and okay you know in in in my in my view of this it it's the kind of thing that
you know somebody with your client's reputation would do any as a matter of course so I'm just asking for you to give them a little bit of comfort as we proceed in this that um there's nothing that pops out on the page that you know would be of some of them so number one relates to the setback I can explain
that the Lots on the east side of the road um we're proposing on the plan to have a 15t rear yard set back and the reason why that one's a little bit shorter is because it it abuts the the 50ft buffer that is against
A1A um so we we felt it was appropriate to since there'll be actually 65 ft to the house and there are no homes behind that we we propose that that that's the answer for that um the second one
relates to the construction access um which I understand Mr mcki is willing to do however as you know uh Old Winter Beach Road is a County Road and there have been a number of changes of staff
at the county I was here before uh you all representing somebody else and at the time we were proposing it to be accessing off of Old Winter Beach Road closer to A1A where it would be entering
our own property we were told that that wasn't going to be able to be approved um but I understand through the efforts of Mr mcky and Dave Knight who's here with me as well uh they've spoken to the HOA and it's understood that they may be
willing to allow um the construction access temporary to cross the uh fur further west on Old Winter Beach Road past the AT&T cut out if you're familiar with that and that would give the distance we think that would make the
county feel comfortable with approving the temporary access so uh it's my understanding we're going to uh attempt to get that permit to allow that to happen Okay Okay vice mayor has a question at this
point sure uh sir you you mentioned the the 50 Foot setback yes as a a reason to cut it shorter does that 50 foot setback is that out from the property East over to A1A yes so that would include the
sidewalk along A1A as well oh it's not the oh no it's not the physical distance to the physical Road it is to the actual West RightWay line of A1 I'm sorry to say that again it it's the the 50ft buffer starts at the Project's East property line okay and heads West so it
doesn't include anything that's in the right of way of A1A so that buffer is not to the physical Road it's actually to the limits of the right of way that the do has for for A1A okay yeah so it's quite a distance what's What's the total
distance to A1A um boy I don't know that um I'm going to say at least 20 30 feet you've got a sidewalk there as you know and then a little bit of green area I think there's a turn lane at Old Winter
Beach Road coming south so the actual added it all up up it's 20 to 30 ft okay I think we're up to item three um we we we're working on the actual plan which is a little bit more detailed
with the um fire staff here we've met with them several times over the course and understand that what we've proposed as a turnaround um will be acceptable so we we have addressed that with to your staff all right now item four
um looks looks to me like these are more U these are more items that kind of relate to your relationship the developer's relationship with the HOA I'm not sure that the town has any ability to really enforce that that's probably a matter of contract and
development but I think they're um you know it's always better to get along with the people that right when you're building with it and you know anything leap out of the page here that looks like a a game breaker to you no I it whatever is I think Mr mcki if I say
something incorrect please stop me but um Mr mckill is aware of the HOA documents and criteria um such as spoken to architecturals and and he'll have to adhere to whatever is in the HOA
documents um for the River Club Carlton project just like anybody else would that is building great right thank you I think you know um that's all I have I think that should be of some comfort to the representatives of the River Club here is there anything else from Council
that they Mr Mayor I just wanted to add very briefly to follow up there was two pertinent Parts first of all this is separate and distinct from the HOA or any HOA we have jurisdiction for the town and our abilities that's what we're focused on the second part is this is a a large scale sort of zoning 30,000 ft
if you will the actual site plan and as Mr mher was just referencing with the specific setbacks where the utility lines will run that will come again as you heard Mr held before through our building department and we'll have an opportunity to make sure it's exactly in conformance with all the technical
specifications okay clarify that thank you and and I appreciate you anticipating something before I was going to forget to do it because my note on item one and two is that um you know we have uh we have administrative and staff responsibilities when final plans are presented to us anyway uh um but
what I was looking for was you know generally we're not going to see something very different presented to the you know to the town planning office uh if we were to approve this request um I take you at your word and it sounds like that's not the case item two I think the town can help in terms of
working with the county to get access on on that we can't guarantee anything and uh it's always in our interest to provide smooth access um I can tell you I've gotten a near full about traffic conditions that are not our our condition here so I don't have any interest nor does Council in having any
um any interest in uh creating um more traffic issues so you know we can do what what we can to help with this on behalf of our constituents and the same with item three um you know the turnarounds for emergency vehicles so that'll that'll be something that can be dealt with further down the road but um
all in all that's it unless you have anything else oh you wish to say thank you very much for your incise presentation and uh the great great materials you presented to us okay thank sorry thank you for your consideration you're welcome um Miss CLA do you wish
to say something on behalf of river CL just to uh say thank you for um allowing us to be part of this process I think our um memorandum lays out high level concerns that we'll have going forward uh but the HOA is generally in support
of the PRD modification and we understand that the other questions that we've detailed while terribly important we think to the overall Community particularly how this development appears from A1A and what we can do to
preserve precious green screening for our community uh and and um The beautiful landscape throughout our community through this process is of high importance uh we'll do whatever we can to work with you and the developer
and the county to uh get access uh construction that that that is really a very important I will underscore how important that is to all the owners in the community um you know the short amount of space from A1A to where this
road will cut in it's just seems untenable so we thank you and we know that the HOA standards will be taken up uh in the next go around and our community will set in place and coordinate a process whereby we can uh
work efficiently with the bill Builder and with the town thank you thank you thank you for your uh participation in this uh I take it there's nothing for as Claus from councel uh is there anybody else who W wishes to speak in favor of or in
opposition or comment on the proposed development now with that I believe I have to formally close the presentation of evidence see I'm doing all right here right so uh we'll formally close the presentation of evidence uh for the quazi judicial proceeding and we can now
proceed to uh deliberations among councel um clarification from our town attorney is this considered a first reading Vote or do we just vote once on this this this is a first reading vote on the ordinance but we will not be having another Clause I do thisal hearing right okay so uh is there any
discussion well let's let's see if there's a motion to approve first move is there a second is there any further discussion from Council in favor or an opposition or comment commenting on the evidence if there isn't we can take a roll call vote mayor Foley I vice mayor alwat I
council member Carol hi council member alteri hi council member danne let the record show the motion to approve passed unanimously all right thank you very much and uh good luck working together on this it's always better when people work together and uh I think you're a
good example of that so thank you and have a great day all right um item number eight c as amended uh the kimley horn approval of the work authorization vice mayor Al you had some comments what on it you
please pass these down sure so one I'm passing you is the town manager and I have had a fair number of discussions about this item and he sent he sent this respons 47
yesterday my concern or question about this item is it is updating the U comprehensive plan and doing a series of other other tasks and I'm just wondering to what
extent a lot of this has already been done because if you look in your packet and go to item 5c is in Charlie what you will see is adoption of zoning maps and future land use maps and they were adopted today this is adoption date
March 2025 and you know I realize over time there might there's might be some small updates to the com comprehensive plan but the reality is that uh we don't have too many Changs in in in this town
it's buil out and it's it's a residential property very little commercial there's no industrial and so forth and the memor from Mr Haring mentions that the paragraph toward the bottom that
we've already paid the setic the sewer doesn't count with the work authorization 20249 was for amendments to the comp plan related the $133,000 and I'm not saying there may not be a need for this work on by Kenley
horn I I just questioned the cost it talks about updating GIS maps that's not exactly rocket science to do that once you have a file set up and so forth I I just the the price at $85,500 excessive so that that's why I'm
I'm bringing here in light of some of the other work that has been done all right any any comments from Council on any of these items or um Mr Haring you want to um thank you Mr Mayor uh vice mayor
Outwater noted I've communicated with him on a number of occasions um about this uh the time time frame uh for our Amendment or updates to our comprehensive plan is now relative to the uh the seven-year time frames uh the
last updates uh were done um in just give me a second 2019 I believe it was was started in 2019 um the last update was actually uh transmitted in September of 2020 uh the amendment was ultimately adopted in in
2021 uh the basically overall the comprehensive plan is being updated to reflect um a number of things to include and it will cover the 20-year planning Horizon um through 2045 once this particular update with
all of the um items outlined in the work authorization is complete then subject to any statutory requirements uh such as were mentioned earlier like the septic dist stew there won't need to be a routine um uh review or update of the
comprehensive plan uh for another seven years from 2025 uh so that's the that's the uh that's the outline that's the background for uh getting all this done now um I I will note um uh sarily that uh prior to
2021 um there was a different uh provider and different different Engineers different planners for these projects and we're doing the best we can to get everything in full compliance to include something even as simple as
making sure the um uh the font in the document is correct throughout the entire document that the the photographs are appropriate and all of those uh substantive things that uh historically were not done uh candidly in a manner that I thought they should be done so
with this update I believe that we'll be um fine subject to the seven-year time frame or any statutory requirements that come out of the legislature that actually uh necessitate us to change the comp plan so just clarifying one point
so if we do this we would have to do this somewhere along the way in the next seven years or after seven years so doing it now obviates the need to do some of that our our update is due now based on the on the previous um update within that seven-year time frame uh
then once this is done uh the statute was 63 that's one 6131 don't quote me on that could be 3161 sorry uh that is the statute that requires uh the comprehensive plan to be updated every seven years pursuant to uh that
particular statute and again I'm excluding um any statutory requirements um staff I just think it's appropriate to do it at this time I'm uh very conscious and appreciative of the vice mayor's uh comments and and tried to you know communicate with him in regards to
what our what my goal was here yeah I'm I'm I I also appreciate the vice mayor's comments and it's it's why we have such an effective Council here uh I can't can't resist compared to other places um you know because we we pay attention to
these things uh um but you know the uh you know this is this is you know it's a soft question but it's really the important aspect to me is like you're you know I delegate to staff on these things and then you know
I think you've earned our trust on it do you you're you're confident that this is the right price for this type of um this type of job did we you know price it out I know we didn't have the greatest experience with another engineer but uhel is
all right I I hate paying taxpayer money for these comp plan things because you know it's it was somebody's bride idea in Tallahassee that just um uh well I think there's a legislative proposal I don't know where it is in committee to just eliminate comp compans period so
you know if if all goes well maybe we don't have to pay these in the future but um B based on the vice mayor's comments and on your assurances that this is the right time to do it it um I'm I'm I'm persuaded you know we should do it um I I think we should watch it
carefully and uh I would like you to go back and see if you can't U can't have them take one for a good client you know maybe negotiate a discount you can't we understand but uh you know there's more work coming down the pike and you know we're a we're a good client we pay on
time actually all right and uh and our checks don't bounce you know there's a lot of lot of pluses for working with the town of Indian River Shores so that's my take on it any any other discussions from Council no no U but I I greatly appreciate your your remarks as well
vice mayor so is there a motion to approve move is there a second second uh all in favor opposed opposed all right thank you very much uh let's move on to staff updates n9a building official
report and statistics [Music] good morning Mr Mayor vice mayor and members of council I don't have anything additional to add um so if there's any questions I'll be glad to answer any one one quick question sure from
from application to action time um what what's what would you say your average time is in uh in terms of processing less than a week okay all right I'm just going to tell you I want to beer from somebody in terms of how
quick our time is uh compared to other places so uh thank you keep up the good work thank you sir all right anything else for all right thank you uh code enforcement it's your day officer Mike
R good morning again um other than what's on the monthly report have no updates any questions I'd be happy to answer them nothing all right thank you very much keep up the good work you you can notice the Improvement and you know I don't I
don't want to just come up here and say okay thanks and you know I noticed the Improvement there's you know there are fewer signs um there's you know fewer unslightly things that happen that um um you know that don't get to us that and probably don't even get in your report
because you're out there working with people telling them like you really can't leave this garbage there you can't do this you can't do that so thank you it it greatly enhances the athetics of our community and keeps us the way we are so thank you for what you do yes sir thank you all right um public works
department Mr Bryant good morning Council you got my report there any questions vice mayor um item number nine securing the pwn lot is that the one down the road yes sir on
okay great all ready for Hurricane Season yes sir sir all right thank you thanks uh miss Christmas Town Treasurer report good morning um you do have my report just of an item of note the Auditors are currently reviewing the
financial statements I actually had to make changes this morning and they're try we're still on target for presentation in April so that's my only update that's not in my report is this the audit report for fiscal 2024 for
some year earlier like 2015 or no this is the September 30th 2024 report well we say thank you as a matter of courtesy and course in these meetings but we really mean at this time thank you you're very welcome thank you for
being you and um I was asked if you were available for unloan work and I said no so thank you very much I don't know maybe it's five or $10,000 in an hour we get appre thank you but truly I you know I've said this to other people down down
the road you keep us informed about everything that's going on the nonsense that happened down there could possibly happen here and because you do your job as as you're supposed to as opposed to
having a situation where the uh the town manager down there has to be flabbergast that that he didn't know about it so I just just want to say thank you thank you vice mayor U very true um Chief Public Safety department good morning all
um yeah uh just a few update on few items the construction uh of the building continues to progress along nicely uh the Met metal building framework that you can see the skeleton up there that should be enclosed within the the next two weeks and that that entire Wing out next to public works
should be just about wrapped up with the with the exception of one small cover that needs to go over the generator that's out there so that's moving along well the kitchen upgrades and actually all the door reframing and those types of things up uh in the main building are progressing along nicely and very happy
with the working relationship with the with the contractor um for those of you that were around a couple of weeks ago um we had what's known in our business this is a trauma alert um gentleman fell off of the two-story building um and uh because
of the nature of the injuries um we the the crew on scene made the quick decision to go ahead and fly that patient out um we landed the helicopter in the middle of Fred Durk and um loaded the patient up quickly and got him to Trauma Center um the patient is recovering now with he but he did have
some significant injuries um the uh traffic enforcement continues to be a success um the uh uh the the flashing uh speed limit signs that we've got have been very helpful um I did I usually come to work um before 7
o'clock in the morning and uh I've noticed that when it's dark outside uh I I really like to find a dimmer switch that we can put thing to kind of T tone it down a little bit um but they are effective they do let people know what's going on and I've also reached out to
Google Maps and some of the other meta folks and uh try to get uh through F dot to try to get some movement on that the request have been verbal so far if I don't hear anything in the next couple of weeks I'll go ahead and put a read request in and see if we can get some of that fixed up um
and I'll be happy to answer any questions that you may have anything for the chief no thank you very much thank you very much Chief attorney Mr sweed
Mayor just to follow up on the idea where we are in the legislative process uh it's unbelievable to think it's already been going on for three weeks and we'll be ending roughly the first couple days of May May 3rd as you said mayor there are several bills that are
moving through many of which would not affect the town but some of which may so what I will do is put together inclusive of the three uh previously identified bills the one regarding utility transfers the one regarding adus or mother-in-law suites and also uh the one
regarding sovereign immunity I'll put together a short list I will send you to council ask you if there's anything on there there's about seven or eight other ones that I think might be appropriate ask if you'd like more information if it's not perent or if you happen to talk to any of your other colleagues at other
cities towns Florida leue of cities let me know and I will put them on the tracking mechanism and I'll provide an update on that but uh the one that you started with regarding utilities that has three committees that it would have to go through on the house side it's been through two so it now has to go to a third one of
course has to be a senate companion there are a couple competing ones on the Senate side doesn't look like they coess behind one but again probably over the next two to three weeks we'll know whether or not that we'll have legs move forward and that's sort of the the timing I would say if it doesn't get
real momentum by say April 10th then it has a hard time moving forward and the reason why is the last two or three weeks they have to Fus on the budget the budget has to be done and that's generally where everybody goes to you've already seen some press from the governor his priorities so I would say
over the next two to three weeks that's sort of your most important time for figuring out if something's going to move forward or not um so I will do that and again if there's anything that any of you want to know more about or have heard about I'll be happy to fair that chase that down so you know you're
you're making a good point so time to get ourselves on recorded now um is it reasonable to get the counil the week I I will have one to you by Friday you here today other than
um other than U you know House Bill uh 1523 1523 yes sir um and I think that's the combined of a previous one yes sir which was hp55 and then there's a senate companion that's the way that came out uh other than that and then the house
bill 943 which is the accessory dwelling unit which you know really kind of covers I'm not sure what our local zoning Powers would be if this thing ever got passed as is so other than those two is there anything that anybody can think of they'd like uh P to
include I guess that's more of a general uh question in the past there has been bills that would limit the ability of Municipal Utilities to charge higher rates to customers outside incor boundaries is there any Bill like
that in this legislative session in fact that's the bill that the mayor referenced 1523 it h55 was that and then 1523 then includes no 25% sech charge okay it the main two points to the mayor's Point are eliminates the 25% and
also caps what could be transferred from a Utility Fund to a general Sor I thought it was just a transfer no no it it's inclusive of both just very briefly a couple of other ones that I've seen through the floridaa cities sort of list serve an idea again whether or not anybody's wants to get behind the vice
mayor as usual makes a very good point which is you know instead of just saying we support it because we don't know what this thing is going to look like let's bullet point the three items that we want no no no disparity or discrimination in rates um no sirar charge
25% and um you know the limitation on the transfer I think they're capping it a 2 million um I wouldn't even put a number on it maybe a little ler so just say you know limiting the transfer would be does everybody agree I think it's a good idea rather than just say we
support the bill um to bullet point what aspects of the bill that we want so yeah $2 million wouldn't help us given bu I I agree yeah but the 25% and no discrimination rates going forward given what I see coming down the road and what I'm sure you see coming down the road
would be helpful so absolutely I I will do that um just very briefly a couple other have to do with local business tax ta L be you know btrs is also what they refer to business tax receipts um C and whether they would be disbanded on a
much more Global basis um Regional planning councils uh to dismiss those um it's interesting talking about the building department processing time um the building code gets updated every several years just like we were talking about comprehensive plan uh there's a
proposal to allow if you're at the end of one cycle for the building code and a new one's going to be coming online you don't get caught in between so to give some Grace over say a 24mth period to be under the prior code before the new one takes effect those those are generally sort of the ideas um so again I'll
outline those put those together and try to be very specific and concise but just the beat a dead horse to death um let's keep the letter to the two items that we we have otherwise it just gets get you know goes across some of these another one of these okay and I'll work with Mr
Haring as well to make sure that you know administra not yes y okay other than that that's my report for this month happy to answer any questions anything nothing manager uh thank you Mr Mayor vice mayor councel um I don't have anything uh of substance addition to what we've already
talked about uh I do want to of course always uh thank really the incredible staff that we have from top to bottom here I do want to um particularly thank Lucy on the solid waste uh transition that continues um I know that after October 1st I think we're just going to
take up a collection and send Lucy on a vacation because she has literally probably talked to every single resident in this town at least once and they're on a spreadsheet and she knows about their garbage cans and it's it's it's been a big lift but uh but we're getting
there the procedural uh pieces have gone uh well thank Our Town attorney and our friends at the tax collector's office for getting all that together and um and we're looking forward and have gotten great cooperation uh with Waste Management on our transition and and
Republic public so um thank you Lucy and um that's all I have Council great anything from Mr Haring nothing from Mr Haring no no okay all right let's move on Council committee reports anything fun happen at leagal
cities or well speaking their main focus right now is is legislated moving bills along um it's pretty
noticeable uh that there's some division in in the interest and generally generally it's uh notable between the larger and the smaller their interests are are quite
substantially different and in fact conflicting in in some ways uh I think the um they were they were sending some groups up thisth so I'll have a better report on
legislative but it's going to all be public anyway so we don't know what's going to pass what isn't going the P what's going to be installed until next year who knows but the league really does a pretty good job considering they
have such uh such a diverse group I mean some some of them there you know they're trying to scramble for you know a few hundred dollars to send somebody up there you know as opposed to other ones where you know it's just a a
rope line item form so yeah I think it's going to be interesting to see what happens and the the governor's pushing some stuff that some of the Cities don't like and some thank you very much yeah it's been
noted here before and the way they're dos are structured um you know the larger municipalities contribute more than small so don't have to be really figure out going listen to Listen to Orlando um you
know or um you know the larger municipalities that kind of fa and stuff that's not so good for us but thank you for keeping us informed councilman Al on utilities there was a um utilities uh commission meeting on March 4th um it
was a particularly robust meeting the commission was was almost filled had little to do with the issues that were great importance to us but more having to do with the surgeon the Florida surgeon general's recommendation
that water districts consider removing flid from public Waters uh there was a very very um uh active discussion about that both pro and con there were representatives from the dental Community the professional
Dental Community who spoke in favor of the coration in the waters uh then there were very passionate members of the de Beach Community who spoke against it um mostly the theme the burden of their
commas was um that uh fluoride is a chemical in their minds um analogous to a medicine and that fluoridation of water is forced medicine on people who didn't raise their hand and say they want fluide in the
water a very very active discussion it it's not an issue that is of my own personal view of burning interest to our constituents nobody here has me natural so we have we have uh I think
4,241 residents in the shores um 290 of those people are less than 20 years old so um I don't think it's a burning issue for us but it's an interesting issue I do think the sense of the room uh that I think it'll
probably favor the idea of removing fluoride from the waters uh when you move when you remove fluoride from the waters when you remove the injection of fluoride from the water you're not taking fluoride out of the water because it's a natur naturally in the water and the filtration process that the town
goes through does not take out all of the the trace fluoride that's in it so there is probably enough Trace fluoride elements in the water to keep most of the people getting Cor in the water um
so that was that was the heart of the meeting um I had raised uh in a letter to the chairperson of the committee that I it was my hope and expectation that somebody from the essential Water Services Group would be at the March 4th
meeting to discuss um recent developments um arising out of the commotion uh having to do with financial audit uh and how that would um took you down to um events affecting the wastewater treatment facility um Rob
Bolton was at the meeting but um said that he didn't have enough time to consider uh the questions that were raised in my letter so uh I I did two things one was said I assume that there's nothing that gets in the way of
any member of the commission to reach out Mr boltman and get together with them personally and I um he welcomed that and my expectation to meet with him before the next meeting which is a special meeting which would be the first week in April and that
meeting will address I think probably again a sort of a revisit of the fluoridation issue but also the issues that I rais in my letter so we are going to at least get some attention to our concerns about the Virgin and cost associated with the um the treatment
facility this is a facility that in 2021 uh the projected cost was somewhere around $51 million uh the latest number is now something around $178 million and I don't think it's going to stop there so
um we'll shine as much light as we can on that issue and I think that having the opportunity to sit down with him before the next meeting will be helpful in terms of just getting a better understand giving him a better understanding of our concerns and getting a better of his perspective
before the meeting great thank you very much just a question question on that back toward the end of 2000 calendar year 2024 they were projecting that they would come in front of city council very be city council with a final number in
April have there been any additional discussion on when they're going to actually go to city council and saying this is what we have to bond out there has been no discussion about that that's one of the issues I wanted to
talk to Rob Bon about um there was really no substantive discussion about those cost items other than the fact that I raised my hand in sent the letter and that letter got the attention of the other people in the commission and also the chairperson of the
commission and at least C in the m and thank you very much and thank you for your your past service on um the Utility Commission I'm I'm surprised you have hair left after all the years he did doing that Bob but you know I'd
love to call you know Bob and Sam up and ask them these questions but you know you can't because the sunshine law but you know I I keep being told that uh the city doesn't have a rating right they don't have any rating but so how does this all play out I
mean what's the ability you know you you guys are Finance profession go first what's the ability of them to even you know get funding through bonds if they're if they don't have a rating with this mess you know they don't even have all have a of the financials that all
being um you know interspersed with what councilman Al said combined with you know there were statements by the city that they were going to have shovels in the ground last summer breaking ground on this plant so they're way behind and those every time they come out with another one of these nose Leed numbers
we know that they're you know they're off by 10 10 to 15% because they going up and up so you know very simple sophomore question for me like how does this all play out do they even have the ability to have conversations with the
markets to say like here's what we want to do or you know what do they need to do to to get off first base two points with regard to rating at the appropriate time the underwriter would work in conjunction the city
of to go to Moody's S&P which others thinking to to get ready so they can do that with regard to all of
the missteps that have taken place the false starts the uh tremendous differential between the estimation of cost two or three
years ago versus what it is today from my standpoint the bond underwriter doesn't care about any of that they just all they want to do and I think it well I won't SP whoever the bond
underwriter is only cares about the rating uh the the amount they have to sell their charge to sell and um getting phenominally individual clients
maybe some insurance companies CH up for example as an insurer is still arguably one of the largest owners of municipal bonds in the country all they care about is getting the deal done they don't the the underwriter could care less about
all the F in my opinion about all the false starts and Mis ups that have taken place since we first began hearing about all this um and furthermore U I don't think the Bond
other writer cares very much about the things that have taken place recently with regard to the failure to file the appropriate documents on time as long as with the time they're ready
to go to market with the issue everything is in place buyers of the bonds the individual buyers of the bonds could care less so Duro Beach is going to
sell I guess an industrial development Revenue bond with a 3% coupon due in 20 years the individual on the other end of the phone uh that's all that individual
cares about they don't care about all this other stuff yeah I I I I I generally agree with with Sam's comments uh it would probably be a water and sewer Bond rather IND
industrial revenue Bond uh Raymond James is the underwriter and to your point I think one reason why they got picked is because they have ends with individual investors in Florida they have a very strong presence and if you can sell to
individual investors rather tional investors you generally get a lower interest rate because they're not as sophisticated I I do think that uh the agencies will probably ding buau Beach somewhat because of their
quality these to kind of term massive Financial mismanagement they I think they got to give them an audited statement before they're going to rate the bonds and know I've heard comments with bu be just was years ago they thought get a triple A I think it's
going to come out about a single a r but yeah the end of the day the deal will will get done a lot of individual investors like order and Sewer bonds because they're considered to be pretty safe because everybody has to pay their water B Bill and they have to flush
their toilets and drink water so I I I think it'll probably work out at the end but they'll probably hurt a little bit on the uh on the interest rate because of the okay didn't they get award what 13 31 a half
million is by on the last so uh yeah I think 13 million awarded then and I promise I'm not making up there's another number I'm sure closed out I hope you're right and then there's another 500 million which is you know
being talked about this budget cycle for further funding for the clean to the do thing which are kind of the same programs but my understanding is they're not eligible uh for those previously awarded pledge grants until they get this whole cleaned up and I was talking to our town
attorney about this today there is there is a Sunset date on those as well you know there's a spanby date so you know this can't go on forever um that you know that we only have so much time to devote to this you know and we're holding to it no matter what so in my in
my simple way of interpreting all the excellent comments you guys made is that the they'll probably do it but it's going to cost us a lot more and frankly the the financial markets don't care if it costs a lot more because it's a bigger issue for them right and the owners of the bonds don't care long as
they get paid don't care about any of this other stuff right we are too deeply meshed in all of the missteps that have taken place not to mention
our position these are the the city of sure we have regard to our franchise different conu different it's a it's a pretty good plan I I I took a tour of it under construction's
director came and with the construction manager I spent an hour on the they're walking me through different things I did that late last year okay you just one thing on the Water and
Sewer bonds typically way they're issued would not be backed by the full faith and credit of Eur it would be it would be backed by the revenues from the utility and really that that is better
than than the than the city you know for a reason I told all right well I mean it's uh to you know kind of put an exclamation point on this s Point like um following s's point you know we
should be rooting for them to get their house in order so that so that they get these grants to reduce the overall cost to us because guess is going to wind up paying for this we are and and the rate payers so uh I think we're clear enough thank you
it's helpful to to hear it concisely summarized by you all right um Treasure Coast council local governments um Sheriff deloro G gave an update on what's going on in St Lucy County
um he he mentioned Bel tightning in the Sheriff's Office due to budgetary constraints that they see coming down the road um it's not our not our burden but I think we can anticipate you know we're probably going to see um less
funding from federal government and state government coming down to county governments um the only item of note beyond that was U the uh sovereign immunity issue and we talked about that earlier uh and treasure C council local governments will also be taking a
position against that bill so uh we were all able to find something that small govern okay uh a couple things I mentioned I was at the beach insurers U uh bicycle
and pedestrian advisory committee uh meeting yesterday there was a presentation on the bike and pedestrian uh plan just uh briefly the gentleman from fot down in District Four Fort Lauderdale was talking about it and I
raised my hand and asked them what was the status of our potential pedestrian activ crossball he said he would follow up on it uh Mark sha and I started at this discussion back in January of 2024 we had a we had a phone call last
January and then I haven't heard anything so he said he follow up the second thing I want to bring to your attention you you have this uh uh document here in in front of you this is my present presentation to the beach
andur uh preservation advisory uh committee meeting I think I mentioned before that there was a meeting that ended up not being a real meeting because we didn't have a Corum uh just
to reiterate Sebastian lit District they're in that block sand that comes down eventually to us they're required under state law which is on the first page here chapter 161 that they're required to move that sand down there
they have failed miserably on that if you look on on the uh next page what you'll see is that they have a what what is known as a bypass objective of anywhere from 70 to 990,000 yards over
the years since 2020 and if you look down at the uh table 10 there in the middle you'll notice that as a percentage objective met was only 58.9 uh perc so that chart that's on the bottom I'm just going to go through this super fast shows how they had failed to
uh hit this uh Target so the cumulative volume down there on this graph is green line here and the uh the objective is red so they're know roughly what was a number
82 9,000 yard short now uh and if you look on the following page what I did was the Florida D each year puts out an annual inet report for every single one of the inlets I downloaded all of them dropped
them in a spreadsheet and then sorted them on the right hand side there by best objective the worst objective Sebastian Inlet brings up the rear now the current executive director James Gray used to be our our our executive
director for the county from 2004 to 2019 said well we actually came closer to that objective at 96% because the count kicked in a lot of s well in my opinion County taxpayers should not have done that that's what fashion inway districts said so the
reason why I bring this up is there is a memor of understanding for relating to the obligations uh on on this page here of how they have to move sand down to
aou between the county and the Sebastian Inlet District and basically when I saw the memoranda it just said there's a Target there was no enforcement mechanism and as you can see they didn't do it the LA you know since 2000 at
58% so I I'm not a recovering lawyer but I put my lawyer hat on and wrote this uh additional language to beered that creates an enforcement mechanism basically this has a fiveyear role on
this agreement I said two and a half years if they're short we have to figure out they're short and the plan has to be uh theou says Sebastian district has to come and and fix it come up with a plan the inite district doesn't want to do
anything at all the county came up with an agreement that had no teeth in it so I put this in front of the committee and I have to say I got zero support on I was really surprised really surprised and this
I mean this impacts us because they dropped the sand in in sector one and sector 2 the top end of India River Shores is sector uh three what I thought Ra was rather interesting was there is a representative from Orchid a council
person there and he didn't support me on it even though it would directly help help them so it's it's kind of a dead issue at at the moment if a memor of understanding what the lousy language gets in front of of uh the County
Commission I will do this presentation all over again because the way it was written it wasn't worth the paper that was written on absolutely no teeth to it at all what it what it means is that the state
legislature knows that these in inlets block the natural movement of sand so whichever direction is going they call it the bite the down drift beaches is the term that they use they have I'm sorry yes yes down yeah down down uh uh
beaches uh uh so yeah later later later on it does so yeah but but that it it says accordingly the legislature finds in the public interest to replicate the natural drift of sand which is interrupted or altered by inlets to be replaced for each level government take
all reasonable efforts to maximize Inlet sand bypass and ensure the beach Quality Sand is placed on adjacent roading beaches so in our case it's south of us and it's the Inlet District that's responsible in my opinion they should pay and they don't so so there there's
right now there is no agreement the Inlet District has stated that they will through their executive director James Gray they will not sign any agreement it requires them to make sure to stand in they will only agree to a Target Target
it's not a mandate so I just wanted to bring you up to speed because it eventually does it does hurt us we just put all the sand on the beach I I want that sand coming in you know moves all over time that's all I have
so um thank you for bring this I mean scratching my head wondering why the county wouldn't be all for this because that's that's Sam V dump in the ocean right so yeah well initially it didn't have any the agreement had no
requirement at all I got a copy of it that's when I wrote this last page then they came back and changed it but it had very little tee to it it was slightly better but so yeah I don't I I'm going
to have a look at this because interest but you know this almost if there is a mandate Mr SW it almost cries out for like you know a mandanis right I mean if there's no discretion and this is what they're supposed to do whoever whoever
has the authority delegated to them would have to I mean there's no discretion they've got to do it and u a memorandum of understanding from the county is more like you know doesn't have any legal import it's like holding your breath and counting to 10 until they do it um maybe another way to do
this is that you know citizen group you know you know could have standing to do this you know I don't think does I think there's nois well sorry I just to to your point which was brought up with meeting which I did not know about there
was apparently a lawsuit by some communities just north to 510 on this I don't know what the outcome of that but several people got up and said why why is this coming up again we had a lawsuit they claim you know that District lost
and supposedly someone from the county was going to come back on that but I haven't heard so can can you follow up on that well absolutely mayor no no no no problem at all mayor council um you know this is unique in the sense that there are only
so many inlets in Florida and again this is not as prevalent on the west coast because you don't have the north to south flow like you have on East Coast have an artificial inlet that was created years ago correct um so that was the qu pro quo it was like any impact
you know would be offset yes and also hence councilman Ali hence why there's a special district um again Fort Pierce Inlet does not have a special district to govern that issue right so this to
the mayor's point was created sort of looking forward recognizing that something might happen this and I think to your point mayor I'm not aware of it being construed I I recall discussion at some point over the last 15 I think even longer maybe 20 years of a suit or
allegations of failure to follow this requirement by some of those Property Owners up by um treasure Museum in that area however I don't know that beach and Shore or any of the advisor committees would be necessarily right standing and as we've seen with a lot of finally
we're talking about legislative updates a lot of things that have happened in the last five or 10 years have empowered individuals to have standing to sue agencies and also potentially get fees I don't know if that would be app here but again that's that's where I'm going with
this so I think it may be I think it's important enough for us to get an answer because it yes sir definitely affects us I mean it does we're taking the brunt of this erosion and you know I don't think anybody up here is qualified for on why um specifically tax payers of the state
county we ought to be getting over Reserve so you know we can um we can took a you know there's a way to go to 16142 and just put a search and and any construction will come up we'll see if that happens flid well I believe that on
the Inlet District the southern boundary is Old Winter Beach okay that the yeah yeah you go you go on you go on a we on a website it's it's split
between verar County and Northern Indian River County and I believe the boundary is our former council member Chris Hendrick was actually in the Inlet District board yeah he was yeah so and I
I think the way it works is three of the board members of the unet district are elected by hard and uh the other two are from well I just this just smells to Me Like Somebody not wanted to step on
somebody else's toes and that the uh uh the better the better approach here would be to have like citizens doing this as the town attorney points out it it eliminates the standing issue um the
citizens always have standing right so you know we get to do it and if there's an attorney Fe um if there's an attorney Fe provision capable than you know some
reward for a lawyer out there to do it but let's let's find out a little more about it because it just doesn't it doesn't seem like we're getting our another phrase I hate but doesn't seem like we're getting our fair share here you know really doesn't this case is and Mr Mayor just to clarify the district
the district is not only just what you typically think of is Beach but it actually goes significantly Inland oh yeah and and you know covers but yes but where you would think about it from the beach side from the Barrier Island its southernmost boundary is uh is in fact
Old Winter Beach Road here on the Barrier Island continues All the Way North on the Barrier Island past obviously the inlet continuing North all the way up to roughly the oali causeway up near Mel well I I did give this
presentation to their Inlet District they had a meeting in North County Library uh I was the only person under the staff at the meeting big big shock and I just walked it through they they didn't have any comments not that expecting to but uh well James gr when
he came to the meeting said uh no way Jose we're not going to do anything so yes uh 16142 yes sir understand the the statute was initially passed in 1986 and has had several revisions the
most recent appears to be last year in 2024 but I will happily put that together as well and be able to give you that background that's to my understanding that's where they have put it down right but that that's that's a pretty long distance from the uh from
The Jetty so but it it does get down here because I remember the time when John's Island did a beach project on their own and they planted all the grasses and uh unfortunately that didn't stay there and
you know down where I live there a couple miles down from John's Island I've seen bits of sand with the plants in there so it it it it moves quicker than you uh than you think and I I want every cubic inch of sand I can possibly get for our town we've been screwed for
so long on on this I mean I I was fighting this since 2015 and we're finally to this point so uh but I mean Pete my first step would be these people brought up this this this lawsuit and you know maybe there's
an enforcement mechanism there that uh the Inlet District has been thumbing their nose I I don't know but u i will research all of those items and provide feedback to all counsel i' I'd appreciate it and and to your point you made it you know maybe they made a determination maybe they haven't
made a determination they're just doing what they're doing I me you know it's cheaper right sound good we're trying to help you all right um anything else no Sam Economic Development Council meeting from last Tuesday was cancelled okay I
have nothing yeah so I think you know this will be a short section next time because most of the meetings have been canell um I don't know about the cities but they're canceling a lot of the April meetings because they're doing their legislative push going to town laass
so we don't have to hear anys on that any comments from the audience nothing Mr we started out a full house you're the Last Stand All right we are adjourned thank you everyone for
anything