##VIDEO ID:AdQCW7Uw8uE## e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e for e e e e e e e e e e e e e e e different good morning everyone morning nice to see all of you thank you for being here and beautiful surroundings here on campus today thank you uh to our host from Purdue everyone who has has welcomed us and hosted us so far very much appreciate it always very gracious and and uh and thorough and and I apologize I was not able to make a dinner last night but was awesome and so U hate to miss it but glad I'm here now so thank you all follow this meeting uh commission for high ation order I am going to do the role today as Chad is not here today unfortunately so um please respond Mike Aly present Dennis L Kathy C pres J Fisher here Samantha paker here Larry gon Bill Hannah pres NY Jordan is she's on okay great hi Molly K here krer pres is not here pepper is not here uh I am here Tom sers oh I'm sorry did I he suon sorry intense uh we have a for so thank you all very much um I would like in my brief remarks aside from again thanking everyone for being here thank you Purdue for their their hosting I would like to uh I'd like to just send a big thank you uh to to everyone involved in higher education here in Indiana um from the commissioner to the to the great staff to the commission members most importantly to our University Partners um you know in in times of change especially political change like we see right now in the smooth transition of of power if you will both at the state local and federal level uh um there's always of course uncertainty about what the Next Generation or iteration of of governments will be but I think what's what we've seen in the leadup to the budget hearings and the great work that has been done by this Collective body to focus on uh the importance of higher education in Indiana it's the consistent thing and I I think that is uh very much a reflection of of how important our work is to support high quality uh well distributed uh set of of opportunities for for all of our citizens in Indiana and those that come to the state so um the consistency and focus I think is just critically important and uh and we're keeping up the good work I think for reflection and coming together of the of the Hope agenda and uh the partnership Pentagon work and and um I give great credit to the the focus on um not just talking about things but showing and how the data both quantitative and qualitative of the impact that higher ed makes which you'll see a little bit more today in Chris's report so just two not thanks for all the hard work it's not always easy but it is just so critically important for the future of our state and for our our citizens so just a thank you with that I will uh it's my pleasure to now invite Patrick Wolf proost and Executive Vice president for academic Affairs in diversity at Purdue University to address the so thank you uh thank you Mr chair thank you commission members we did have a lovely dinner yesterday evening um and just to remind uh everybody who's here and watching if if Provost comes across as confusing slightly confusing academic jargon it pretty much means Chief academic officer so that's why I'm I'm standing before you today and I'm I'm a big uh proponent of what uh our chair just mentioned which is um sort of show don't tell uh so I'll get out of the way pretty quickly to um to let my team lead a presentation about a Student Success at Purdue I will tell you um we're very proud of Hing close to our foundational values a big one of those is Excellence at scale we're always trying to think about how we can bring and make successful ever more students from Indiana and elsewhere to Purdue how we and work to increase brain gain students who graduate no matter where they come from setting up shop in Indiana after graduation um and just trying to understand and assess and rebalance constantly where we fit to the overall High ecosystem born on behalf of the state and so we're really excited and proud to be able to do that eager to partner with you and others in the room and others watching and uh just just very very pleased to be able to do our part um the the show don't tell portion I I'll give you I H it's good news lots of good news lots of year on-year records being set I mentioned at the dinner last night um record demand in early action applications undergraduate applications again this year and just an enormous number of bright spots at a time when that's not universally true across the sector across the country but we're very very proud indeed to do our part so thank you again for joining us I know you had great chats with students yesterday a chance to see uh the our our newly renovated Burke Senor Bano and other things and again I will um turn it over my team when you're ready but but uh but thank you welcome everyone thank you again for last night's conversation and I'm just very very pleased that we're able to host you today so thank you very very much thank you very much Pro um now we need to approve our minutes uh your agenda book contains the minutes from the last two meetings October 10th and November 6th uh and we need a motion for approval if I may have one second thank you were there any comments Corrections changes hearing none all in favor please say I I I I oppose same okay minutes are approved all right uh as uh Prost wolf mentioned um we're going to hear from the team from Purdue around Student Success and completion work very excited about this Dr Jenner rickus oh sorry if I name uh Senor Prost for teaching and learning will lead us through this presentation so thank you for being here yeah thank you so um as I was introduced I'm Jenna rickus and I'm gonna kick us off and then we'll have another a couple speakers to to join us as well so uh proos wolf mentioned Excellence at scale and I want to focus on a particular dimension of Student Success and that is really career and World Readiness um how prepare our students when they graduate of course completion and getting to graduation is a key goal and as provos wolf indicated we've had the last 15 years year-over-year increase in four-year graduation rates which we're very proud of um but we also do a lot of work to emphasize what is the value of that degree and how does it prepare um our students for success in career and life it was also mentioned produce foundational values and Student Success is woven through all these values this is a slide that President Chang um has shown previously it indicates um key values for our University Excellence at scale with affordability uh scale is we operate at scale in order to create access for as many students as we can um and excellence and affordability are two halves of a dimension of value right we need both quality um and excellence of what we're offering and engaging with students as well as affordable in terms of their own personal investment in time and money and job Workforce Innovation we find weaving and you'll see um examples of this today partnering with industry partnering with the community and aligning uh the success of our state with the success of our individual students is um a way that we can contribute uh all around to the state as well as to our individual students our University right now has four um primary strategic initiatives and Student Success is woven through all four of those so we're going to present some specific again examples um that also really connect with the Hope agenda and you're going to see threads of how these um Student Success and uh Career Development initiatives connect to prod new computes which include semiconductors uh Dan School business and business General entrepreneurship and Innovation building businesses in the state um of Indiana and Indianapolis we're going to finish up all the programs that we're talking about today that are operating at scale we're launching in Indianapolis and we're going to talk about how this translates to what we're uh doing afteru in Indianapolis so from a student perspective uh we think you think about the timeline of their time with us thinking about first traditional student out out of high school there's really a different state stes of their process there are key components that are really important to a student so very early on access and affordability and opportunity so a lot of our initiatives keeping tuition Frozen for affordability um are really key here you're going to see twoo um of how we uh partner with high schools in the state and communities in the state to help build Pathways to the opportunities that then come when students are with us at Purdue and in our system not just in in West Lafayette Indianapolis but also at our regional locations in for b um and Northwest and when they're with us of course the Excellence of the academic opportunity in the mentorship and um again partnering with companies uh employers and um communities you're going to see a lot of work-based integrated learning um as part of our approach to Student Success and again at the end what's really important to students is what they're able to do and meet their goals and career and life um as they graduate and of course that is a from an individual perspective a quantifiable um metric uh and we track very closely you know not just graduation rates but also uh the rate of debt as our students lead what are they investing we are at a record um high of the percent of students graduating debt free and then also thinking about that value ratio which again can be economically defined for an individual in terms of their um earnings relative to their personal investment and so tracking that average earnings to debt ratio for our students is a way to quantify this value that we've been talking about um as well so I've been mentioning three specific examples that I want to feature uh here for you today and uh we're going to start with um something called scale Purdue is leading nationally and this puts Indiana at the Center of Workforce Development um particularly for semiconductors you're going to see direct connections to the Hope agenda both in creating Pathways and connections with k12 and other uh professional non-h highed uh opportunities and of course you're going to see connections to um hope agenda numbers five and six as well um all of our programs are really uh contributing to economic Mobility for our individual students we're going to introduce you to the data mine um which also very closely partners with industry um all around the state other institutions of higher education um and Entrepreneurship and Innovation uh certificate both of these last two programs available to all of our students at um Indiana are very in at Purdue and are very connected with um industry and Community around the state again Talent retention economic mobility of our individual students and really building that um the workforce and building businesses in it so with that um first I'm going to bring up uh Carrie Douglas she um is going to uh talk to you about scale she's the co-director of career development uh for scale hi I'm kri associate professor of engineering education and um together with my colleague Professor Peter Burell we co-lead scale and as you can see um scale is a nationwide effort so really the scale Consortium is a public private academic partnership um that is focused on developing the US Workforce in microelectronics particularly in the defense sector and um you can see here we have um we are located over 33 campuses across the US um we have over 70 employers um said but they have many locations and so um across one of the things that's great about leading scale from producer this is a nationwide effort we all know that um microelectronics semiconductors are a huge national security issue right now we actually existed before that just before the ships and science act by the way um 2019 we wrote our proposal but um we are continually developing um and implementing curriculum that is employer inspired um with active Hands-On and experiential learning opportunities so that employer engagement is really at the center of everything that we're doing because our whole mission is to need their Workforce so we spend a lot of time understanding what their technical needs are and then how do we develop those opportunities so here at Purdue what that translates to is through these curricular um initiatives we've impacted over 8,000 students with curriculum directly developed for meeting those employer needs um in terms of the actual scale program when students join we have a holistic model of career development where we know Knowledge and Skills is one thing but everything that goes into why you take the job you take is based off of a whole lot of other things and there's a lot of Empirical research um that guides us and so we really look at this holistic model where we are mentoring students um and bringing them into a community of practice where we recognize that we are part of a movement to really meet the needs of our nation at this time and developing that commitment um so we are currently placing um students in Indiana at a rate that is five times higher than the national average we have you can see here I have a list of our scale uh Indiana employers that are partnering with us and we are currently um working with SK hex developing um already submitted proposal to do Workforce Development for them um our financial return on investment is for every dollar spent returns back $3.50 um and 66% of our students are getting placed in the defense sector a lot of people talk about the need to build Pathways for stem and and that's true we do we do need Pathways for stem but I'm telling you for the nation to meet and Indiana to meet the workforce need we need Interstate we need straight line highp speed movement and that's what we're trying to do here with ecosystem we're going from um working with the K12 schools and building sustainable infrastructure so that students get multiple opportunities to engage in micro Electronics in the DM and then we also have deep partnership with idtech not just something that's on the slide but myself and Peter meet regularly with our colleagues there um and this has been going on for years um we also provide lots of research experience obviously at the undergraduate um continuing education PhD level and we're continually developing new programs trying things out trying to get additional funding so for example um our colleague on the team Professor shra banzel um received funding for scholarships um for students who are working or who are studying heterogeneous integration Advanced packaging for the semic conductorship um and I'm really proud to say or excited to share with you that one of the scholarship recipients is actually from Southern Indiana and how he learned of the scale program is his mom attended a teacher of professional development cing our scale K12 program you know what's really unique about scale K12 is that we aren't just is that we are developing fullon commitments from whole school districts where they have joined us and said yes we want our students to have multiple opportunities um to engage with micro Electronics so we work with the teachers to have what we call um vertically aligned curriculum so that as a student goes through K through 12 they keep getting more opportunities to engage with microelectronics it's not a oneandone thing if we're going to actually impact career choice we have to have a lot of opportunities for students so here in Indiana um what this means is we've been partnering with 10 school districts 35 schools and in this Academic Year alone we've impacted 20747 K12 students getting micro Electronics curriculum in their classroom and these curriculum units are fully aligned to the Indiana standards of their math and science classes and in some cases we're getting them even integrated into art and English so we're getting the kids who don't think of themselves already as an engineer don't think of themselves as a technologist we're reaching out to them in ways that are relevant and meaningful to them there are a lot of things I could talk to you about with skin and and I I'm thrilled to present it to you but I think my time is up and so I'm going to stop now um but I'll be around to answer questions I'm Mark Ward I'm data mind director here it's a program the office of Pro St Purdue it's intended to work across the colleges and University system and then also has a Statewide component we'll talk about as as well where we out on the west side of campus today you could see many many of our students live in the residence H we've actually even out grown this residence hall and students are living in a couple residence halls nearby and we're building a second residence hall for the students it's meant to really be a program that's on the students Turf uh it's open to all the students in the campus of undergraduate and undergraduate level I think there's only the order of 160 different majri represented there's about 2,000 students attending this year we had approximately 5,000 students go through the program in the last six years it's really meant to be that uh type of program where the student can learn some data science skills regardless of their background there's no prerequisites for the program whatsoever we don't mention the words programming or teaching or anything like that it's experiential for the students so they have experiential projects where they learn the data science and then even from their very first year involved they can go those skills to work with companies from lots of different sectors of Industry we have a particular emphasis on spreading the program out not only around the state but also minority Serv institutions all around the country when you look at our partners our industry Partners we have approximately 80 corporate Partners projects each year you'll notice they're not all from one sector of Industry there's agriculture aerospace engineering manufacturing pharmaceutical science computational drug Discovery all the areas where they really really want the students who know not only have work in data science types of projects but they're eager to learn the domain and grow their career in in that uh trajectory at the bottom we listed uh I don't know on the order of a dozen different uh uh companies specifically based here in Indiana partnered with for several years kind of um really drive that uh local ecosystem where a company wants students who are growing up at a a college near them and maybe they want to settle there rather than move to one at the coast right I mean really gear towards the brain game here in Indiana so the projects are all meant to be R&D I return on investment low risk but High reward if they're successful all the projects come from the industry Partners uh my colleagues and I on the faculty don't propose the projects to our partners in industry but rather they bring the projects to us and it exposes the student to places they may not have thought to work before in their career and there's lots of actual real world experience where the students are working in the company's Cloud environments as employees alongside their teammates and Industry they meet their colleagues from the companies every week uh throughout the 9month Academic Year it's about four times as long as the typical internship will be nobody needs to take the program for their major or minor either we don't give a certificate or a minor or a major we have 2,000 students taking the program because they see value in it so of course our colleague Dr is going to speak more about the program in Indianapolis but I just I'm I'm very proud of what our team is building in Indie so we put a few pictures there one one Hallmark of the Indianapolis program is the companies who actually come on site most weeks to meet with the students uh even our president sto by met the students at the start of the poll term and we opened the Indianapolis office even six months before the pur Indianapolis split this summer uh with our colleagues at IU um we really want it to be a win-win in the Indianapolis ecosystem there's I think on more of 150 students work in the Indianapolis program this year and then at the Statewide level which is really encouraging colleges all around the state to adopt this model wherever it fits uh in their particular institutional profile the L and dominous West is with a $10 million gift over uh the the a fiveyear period ending in 2026 we have about half of the colleges in the State uh with the data mind model we'd sure love to have all of the colleges in the state of Indiana by the end of 2026 if we can that's kind of our soft goal and uh you some of these projects are in the the Purdue ecosystem and some are also in the abch ecosystem but they're also with the little arts colleges and um it's really meant to fit ref where it's most appropriate again in uh once institutional profile I'm going to hand it over now to my colleague Natalie from the entrepreneurship program you hello my name is naie I'm director of Entrepreneurship education initiatives here at Purdue and I'm going to talk about the SECU entrepreneurship and Innovation program our tagline is turbo charger Purdue degree because it's essentially a minor that any student on campus can add to their degree and we tried to make it as seamless as possible and accessible to as many students as possible so here are some of our metrics we've touched almost 14,000 students um over the past several years we integrate a thousand students new students every year into introductory entrepreneurship courses uh we have about 2,000 students enrolled in uh all of our courses each each year uh that to do that we offer over 60 classes per year um we award about 500 certificates at graduation uh we have over 200 Majors representative representative the net we like to see is we have four out of five students expecting to be involved in a startup at some point in the future uh we try to collect as much data as we can which relies on students in ill getting back to us but we've counted about 750 Ventures uh launched by alumni and they have raised over $600 million in funding these are just some examples and I've chosen some Indiana examples of very different types of companies uh for example we have Plum and Poppy started by Sarah Bennett who who does event planning and has a wedding venue uh in in North Indiana uh is it pizza is a chain I don't know if any of you have ever eaten there but very Innovative U Pizza uh pizza shop with 11 locations throughout the state and Brad NE who founded that uh was heavily mentored by one of our faculty members uh another unique example is Kota whin and she worked in tech for a couple couple of years but she had she was an artist and she decided to execute a business plan that she had created in one of her cstone classes and now she is a mural artist that works with Fortune 500 companies and communities throughout the country and and has started like she said a million dooll business in her 20s uh Bak by Britney is a company is a restaurant and bakery that's just off of Campus and you all have cookies uh from there and I encourage you to support her um and another is an Anu an tech company uh that is creating kind of refrigerator so people can grow their own produce in the future and we just had an event with him in Indie and he is hiring an intern this year another is glass board which is a wellestablished um kind of Hardware product development firm started by arum's um that works with startups and five 4 500 companies on new product development and last but not least is mult multiply technology that works on um helping companies uh kind of optimize their it infrastructure that was started by Doug Booth one of our Lumps who then hired two more of our Lumps who are his Partners in that firm so how do we do this because uh over the years academic programs have become very kind of compressed so we have to be as flexible as possible as I said to uh enable students to be able to access it so we do that through uh what we call introductory or core courses as well as very flexible uh option and cast on courses that throughout the campus um primarily the kind of engine of all of this are the two intres that I mentioned that are tough ones there we offer over the year um many many of those sections in one semester we're offering uh 18 sessions of these courses that run kind of all day on Tuesdays and Thursdays and then students have a lot of flexibility they can choose uh courses in our program or throughout the campus for instance there are many engineering courses engineering design castone course of that fill deps as well so we'll be launching that first course in Indie in the spring um and I just wanted to give some other examples of how we engage with the community I should add that all our faculty are practicing uh entrepreneurs and many of them come from the Indianapolis ecosystem over the years we've had to bring kind of the ecosystem uh a lot of the ecosystem in Indiana to us uh to kind of complement what we have here in West Lafayette but this is an example of our Consulting course which we are the goal of this course is to teach students the kind of profession of Consulting many of them are going to work to be Consultants or subcontractors in the future looking at as we look at the future of the job labor market um and then they also work on with a client company or nonprofit to develop for on a business development project um so they learn how to work with clients communicate with clients scope deliverables charge clients uh and also do the presentations and this has worked out great students have gotten valuable resume building opportunities while they were involved in in a student as as a student and I'd be happy to ask answer question thanks I think we have one of your um students to thank for our treats in front of the too right thank you for that thank you very much commission is pleasure to be here talk to you today about Indianapolis I want to start by saying first for the University Indianapolis an expansion of the west laia campus in Indianapolis okay so this means the same programs departments colleges that are functioning here and around you are the ones that are running the programs departments in Indianapolis but you all seen a lot this morning about the companies we're working with as part of world Readiness and the ingredients you've seen around for Student Success so as we approach Indianapolis with this strength of our programs we're doing up a focus on building World Readiness integrated throughout the entirety of what we do um and and have that as the pillar of what we're doing there so you saw earlier many logos for many businesses how do we access and take advantage of that ecosystem in Indianapolis and and use that in the classroom as part of world Readiness for our students to make sure that they're successful during their degree but also once they get their degree how do we attract top talent how do we give them the experiences in Indianapolis and how do we keep these students in Indianapolis for our future economic development for the state of Indiana I'm starting with a picture of the map of where we're starting from in Indianapolis you can see that we have a hub which is in the dash line area which is on the northern part of the former IUPUI canvas it's just immediately to the west of West Street south of Indiana north of Michigan Street we also occupy five buildings in the tea that we share a lot of these spaces with IU okay but if you look we're actually throughout Indianapolis and a lot of the program that we've established and launched or built from the ones that we started with in engineering and Science and Technology we've activated parts of these programs with local companies and businesses throughout F so I want to draw your attention to to um starting the SE we have a spot in the in the bot Works District of high ala venture capital for entrepreneurship which you learned about this morning also for um Executive Education and more growing in the business area with integrated business and engineering in something that we are doing this upcoming fall um so c inde d eseni helped we've had a pharmacy presence in Indianapolis for a very long time but now it's part of a bigger ecosystem where Pharmacy um students and traines can do research in a clinical study um at e16 Tech Advanced Materials manufacturing and Audiology research Clinic undergraduate students from Indianapolis are getting connected with that to do real research search starting very early okay F delara Motorsports Motorsports engineering the primary focal point of the program and also for sports engineering master's degree will be housed at theara so there's a footprint for Motorsports in the campus and ataro and the list goes on and on this is just a snapshot I'm going to move on for a time but we're taking these ideas of world Readiness partnering with companies and providing a pipeline for these students for Success before during and after um in Indianapolis has immigrated throughout what we're doing we launched this fall we launched with full further Gold Rush experience activating Indianapolis and sites around the campus Jenna's team did an amazing job of getting that spun up and we connected these students also with the boiler Gold Rush experience here in West Lafayette via the Campus Connect which has had way over 10,000 Riders since launching this August between wfia and Indianapolis we have 20 2834 residential students in Indianapolis including new beginners and all the students who are continuing with us as we've complete their degrees um data Min Mark Ward pointed out started six months before the transfer of of of been the launch of BR University in Indianapolis it was very important to us to bring a lot of the Student Success things and get them in there as fast as we could the data mind was one we could do that we started at last January for all the continuing students II degree seeking students to take advantage of that program and get started and get plugged into that ecosystem early it took off like a rocket we and and already provided some numbers about how successful that has been since its launch at launch we have more than 200 instructors 90 we're actually 100 Tas um because it's a very high touch program um 395 courses and over 100 staff we executed 175 office moves to make an integrated Student Services Center an academic s um Success Center for students to go to one place where they can get everything from counseling and Psychological Services to advising to student life support and everything else so exper education at launch focuses um in several ways that we've already mentioned but also includes vertically vertically vertically integrated projects engineering projects and community service fores and professional practice in the Scholars Program Student Life wraparound Services learning communities a big part of belonging and Student Success that was a very very intentional focus at the launch so we have student groups fully integrated at both locations over 800 students in University Housing in Indianapolis and we've activated the city for student events including Indiana Fever um butter with gong gong Children's Museum India the AV hunts India and adding the different type of experience students but one that where they have a Purdue belonging but also an Indianapolis belonging campus launch 546 new first year engineering Majors 177 first year computer science Majors 117 honors students down Martin at Honors College we had a career fair with 80 companies um this P October an upcoming internship Fair we have 55 companies over 400 internship positions lined up um so that the students that are here and access to those as part of their program research is a core component of what we do as well and since this transation over $50 million in research proposals have been submitted and the trustees approval and now State approval for the academic success building is another success um that we are very happy to to see moving forward in Indianapolis so the future in Indianapolis starts from this Foundation where we very intentional about what programs we launch and support and bring to Indianapolis and and and bet them strongly before we bring them to the commission for review and approval we have four principles for all new programs One mission driven they need to be reinforcing Purdue strengths and Alignment our strategic goals we've seen those earlier this is one house B school for business Purdue computes the programs have to have a focus on individualized Student Success so so think about programs that give students competitive advantage in the marketplace and align with in demand skills again we are wanting to reinforce not just the the support and success of our students but also Indianapolis World Readiness programs that come through that we requires before we move forward require programming that prepares students for work life Civic engagement beyond graduation so this includes career relevant experiences plans for internships work-based learning experiential education lastly they have to Showcase Central Indiana we don't want programs that are just taking advantage of an urban setting we want things that are tailored specifically for the context of Indianapolis for this model to continue to be successful and to reinforce what we've started so it needs to not only take advantage of what the city has to offer a city but what does Indianapolis have have to offer so out of the gate we have some new undergraduate offerings that met those criteria actual real Sciences integrated in business and Engineering under Common App this past year we we're excited to see strong interest in those integrated business and Engineering integrates engineering curriculum with a business curriculum 60% down School of Business 40% engineering we also um heard about we've launched the certificate for entrepreneurship and that is something that current students can can sign up for that are already there but also as a recruitment tool it's part of the package for support for the what we call the Indie Scholars Program an Indi a loc Indianapolis scholarship many graduate Ms degree is coming and we have internships and co-ops starting in Fall 25 so that's just a quick overview happy to show anybody that would be in Indianapolis around campus feel free to reach out to me and happy to answer your questions um throughout the rest of the event today so thank you David thank you we're happy to entertain questions from the commission I can ask my colleagues to to count question how many are at en so right now we have census 2834 students um this is 760 new beginners and then 1,800 plus by continuing students we have a Target down the road for Max enrollment there we're going through we we so these are very high touch programs and we're taking them specifically so we're being intentional about what that growth looks like and not wanting to get out too far um too fast um and we're working on L with shice and management I think she she she answer further questions about some little targets jman Nancy has a question oh great Nancy thank you um I'm just I'm curious about the do connect the the bus um and that you've had 10,000 writers one of one of the questions that we had so we'll come back to other questions or comments what are most of the classes in person or online there is an iners residential program we do have some um some hybrid um courses and students have access to the course catalog by slopp yet if it makes sense for them to use the bus go between locations you have people that take the bus down two or three times a week for a class in person it it flows both ways we we want we want to make sure that the courses that are needed for the degree are there but if there's specialty courses that are very very small number of student would take they have access to that full catalog um a lot of Brad students are doing the flow right away um for courses and that's that's that historically has been the case um we're actually having we're increasing the bus route um it'll be announced later today because we have to increase the frequency we have six times a day during the weekdays two on the weekend it's going to go four on the weekend Spring we're going to um debut additional routes as well you mentioned that the new student they had a fully integrated uh Center I can't remember the exact words where integrated student services on third floor stud yeah where I'm very interested in taking a tour I'm going be connecting with you but where did where do you do that because you mentioned several things you said mental health and 39 staff on the third floor ET building um where we have we have um two corridors and two Hal of the building for the different um areas for student services but all the student services that includ financial aid would that include all where where do that so uh financial aid will be is is going be next to the admission space in I is is in the admission space in iio so that Financial a bsar registar they have they're they're in one group closer to the admissions um touring area for parents and visitors okay but the for the students who are there there it's an integrated um floor how was it this year did the students um were they lost a little bit do you have what what has been the reaction with the students are they connecting do they know where to go um how' that transition been you know the the launch was was all hands- on deck and it went smoothly we were able to bring a lot of additional resources for any types of questions or things you know with the launch and startup right you know um but it would went really smoothly we had extra it support for all instructors to make sure that they could get everything going in the classroom um students could find their way around it is a a smaller footprint so it's a little easier to find your way around than the massive big 10 campus um and uh yeah any other we're right below that on the second floor and collocated with the PO teic off this the data mine yeah with data mine and the the students actually get to come to the suite and meet the companies right there on site rather than being somewhere else on the academic campus in a classroom so I think they really feel like they're generally part of this launch you know they feel like they're kind of part of the Prett family as we're building this so the data mind we needed space for that what do we do we vanted the Deans Suite in all the administrative offices and converted it into student learning Active Learning space the entire entirety of it um so that was a that was a fun project the the intentionality of of students going Indianapolis versus coming here I mean are the the the nearly 3,000 students you have there I mean did they deliberately want to be there or was there you know deferment from here or tell me a little bit about kind of the makeup and the what what a typical student there is like versus here you know it's been something we've been really wanting to to understand more you know as well and so students had advantages there was the computer science engineering guaranteed internships as part of their program also there was an option for direct admission um into the majors where we had this extra capacity and it was in high demand areas um we're also seeing a lot of student interest in differentiated programs like the only AET accredited not only accredited Motorsports engineering program in the us and the demand for that is is through the roof um we also have interior architecture themed entertainment and things that only exist in Indianapolis that add value to the overall portfolio what Purdue offers and students are driven to those interest areas as well Ive the new one integrated business and Engineering as a pilot is a two plus two so two years Indianapolis two years by Lafayette by Design lots of interest in that so it's it's really fun to see you know what kind of students they entrepreneurship mindset students really active engaged students students that wanted more of an urban campus environment those are kind of the differentiators that that drive Choice it's probably sh I yeah please good morning I'll said two statements um about admission so um we do not place any students somewhere that they don't want to be so students choose in the Common App it's all the same process West layette and Indianapolis it's all the same and they choose where they want to be and that's where they're that's place and quality is also the same the review of all the applications done the same process same reviewers the same standard so it's all the same that's worth that was an important design principle from the very beginning you say application um that they are choosing when they before they are accept they correct so so as a high school senior when you go into your common app before the deadline you were choosing at that time which campus you want and you can choose both as a first and a second choice um so you can say y w is my first IND is my second or vice versa but there's many ways that they can choose but if you don't choose um IND necklaces at campus at all you're not going to be at any necklace but then so say someone changes their major or they're undecided inally how easy is it to then turns out what I want to do is in Indianapolis I want to go to the Indie campus yeah those are still details that we're working out the key is we have to have a curriculum there so um that's really the driver um if the curriculums at both Camp us that's one way to look at it if the curriculum's only one campus then obviously they um can be placed in the other campus there's also housing concerns to think about and where there's housing so we're still working through those details there's a lot to consider um for all those cases the fundamental principle there to is again student choice and that the only barrier we would put in front that we would not put any barriers in front of them it's just simply Logistics and what's available in Choice great presentation um really appreciated the map we kind of understand and love the integration into uh and across the city uh just curious I I drive by there um almost daily yeah and I see a lot of red so just wondering on The Branding branding perspective when will we see more um black and gold it's interesting I mean I think that our marketing Communications team has done very very well the G that we have to operate then within the arrangements that are there thank you doesn't help I'm guessing yeah just to reiterate what a great presentation all the programs as a student I would just be I wish I could go back Expos to some of these types of opportunities whether be scale or I IND your data M um you you guys are scale was the the other type of at scale um reference that uh proos wol and and the team has made uh to scale some of these programs that are so new and Innovative in a sense and so impactful has got to be a challenge and we hear about obviously working through those but I give Pur such great credit for not getting caught up in all the what of you know how do we do this you you you go after because you know there's there's a need for a student and you'll you'll figure out the details right I know that's part of the part of the mission I'm curious of the um I'm curious if you have if there's any patterns of students inst State out of state how what are you finding from those two different populations about their interests in these programs uh I know it's early in in much of this but is there any pattern of who's more likely to be interested in some of these some of this work was pretty much the same across the student population I would say once students know about it that there's pretty Universal interest we go out of our way um I would say first generation students no matter where you're from um we have to really go out of our way early um to get these opportunities in front of them and to help them um understand how these uh things that they can engage with will support their Student Success you know some and so that's something we do uh very intentionally um and so that you we have a lot of first generation students from the state of Indiana um and so that is a group that um that we the data mine just visited Purdue promise and our 21st century Scholars as an example to really get that program in front of of those students yeah thank you yeah the other I might just add there too is that we find the company the Indiana company engagement early in the students experience is really critical for the brain game they um don't always understand all the companies what they do all the industries of the opportunity and if we engage too late when they already have a career plan set um that's more difficult than on the talent retention so all of these programs that we talked about are available your first year the data mind students their first week on campus they are with a company um and so that's a really important component too so are there any events that are in the works to kind of integrate students that are also based in Indianapolis as well as West Lafayette so they're understanding their Cal Spirit they're understanding that kind of all even if we're separated to different Regional campuses we're still all at one school um and how do they have that in Partnership do the computer science team here also work in research with the computer science team in Indianapolis is there a lot of kind of cooperation leadership together you want to take that you want me to you can start I can start I mean yes just like David uh indicated that you know our departments are one Department across many of our student organizations the Honors College is one example those students come together um both in Indiania on joint leadership teams they are working together they ride the bus back and forth boiler Gold Rush was not just to parallel they actually had their own and then they came together um is what both in Ras we we see a lot of West lafette students actually coming to Indianapolis and engaging with the Indie students and in Indie events and so our student government is integrated so there's a lot of opportunity intentionality um for student cooperation and we measure that through student belonging um and we are seeing actually post spoiler Gold Rush very strong boost in and an equal sense of Purdue belonging between our Indianapolis and West lat students anything else you want to add David no I mean this is this is one of the areas where we have a lot of extra attention to make sure we get you know a strong start and um and it's happening the Honors College integration is is a fun example where they'll meet you know at sites between first year engineering met all first year engineers at the after they were bus from West lafay and from Indianapolis all to go to Turkey Run to learn about canyons in Indiana you know and um U we find that the uh the student government to provide information that's helping us to understand they lot of the student clubs we need an extra later rout in the buses so we're activating these types of things in response to that and this large thing different you know after hours and things SP student experience Student Life um as a followup to that is there part of your team doing pretty promise as well in Anapolis to kind of help the 21st century Scholars that are based or is it kind of like a virtual thing with some their team also oh go ahead you yes we have a a p promise coach who is uh dedicated to Indianapolis and that will scale as the number of students um scale and and grows in Indianapolis as well oh yeah D presentation as a head this will be a question going in a different direction but I do want to take advantage of the expertise that we have in front of us we never have the opportunity to ask the question of you all again just with in off of your theme of Student Success and Excellence that scale I want to mind your expertise based upon what you know about Student Success what specific insights teachings mentoring can you give us that help that can help us transform the academic performance of the absolutely lowest performing students in the state of Indiana high school students K through 12 what insights do you all have that would help us take expence that scale scholarship that scale for the absolutely lowest performance what do we have to do differ what can we do to transform education in Indiana maybe jump in it's an easy little question question I'll well and it's a critically it's a critically important one and it's one we think about all the time but the State and I would say the the lessons that I have learned over time is that it has to be consistent at every stage um of the students experience in life it has to be holistic um students one of my colleagues says students are not brains on sticks right they are whole human beings and we find um that students you cannot separate academic success from basic needs psychological needs belonging connection um and so I think as a state we have to partner those K through 12 Community College higher ed we have to work together as a system um to support students at every stage of their life and Student Success and to really come at it from a holistic I think that the Regional Community um you know we often think of our state you know the data mine Indiana data m is very much a regional um and our state is a mosaic of economies and micro regions that have and so aligning Student Success with Community success family success like those things all come together I think if we're really going to systemically move um the needle um and students have to have also autonomy and choice right we um can't think of them just as um you know a goal in our pathway helping them to develop their own um what success looks like for them which can be different for different students and then working together as an ecosystem um I'm particularly I would love to have the conversation around math in the state this is one that's particularly important for Purdue because so many as a stem centered institution so many of our programs depend on math Readiness and we need to partner um through the entire education ecosystem um to support math so that we can be strong um have a strong stem work for and students can are prepared to to develop and meet their career so that's an open yes so I I'll talk a little different I'm just speaking out half of myself so this isn't anything pre you know but I'm I'm a the four so I mean I lived through my my kids you know I got four kids in preschool building I mean I've Liv through the pandemic home school um you know all this um and I've been deeply concerned about what's going on um that's just me deeply concerned of the motivation and I think um when I think about Indiana and we're trying so hard to build like I said I truly believe that I want an interstate from small town Indiana through the working in my car electronics work for course you um and I think success motivates to keep trying and being more successful and so when we have kids in elementary school that aren't getting those OPP maybe aren't supported like it we're seeing that they're falling behind in math um falling behind in Reading which is what our state scores show then we need to have more resources more I mean more resources to support individual kids so that they experience success early on because nobody feels good not performing well nobody feels good you can be checked out your question was for the lowest performer and no nobody feels good about that but it's become a pattern it's a habit and so at Young at a young age if they can experience success have adults that believe in them and know they can be successful then the that just it multiplies that's a motivator and so I think um if I had if I had I would I would put more money into supporting the elementary schools teachers and more adults in our classroom working one-on-one kids because they they need those successes ahead you know one thing too I mean thinking about investment course we're investing hundreds of millions in research here but the the industry investment and the data Sciences is just just orders a magnitude larger than what any higher institution can put in experiences so it's not just things to acclimated and then to Workforce opportunities it's that's where a lot of the excitement in in uh in the sciences and Engineering is now he is an industry and so we have to be mindful of those Pathways as early as possible D okay I was going to say one thing just say at the college level what I observe through the entrepreneurship program is relevance um that we I've had a student say I have to take an entrepreneurship course every semester um not even because of the content because of the people and you know and and and the instructors just because it helps them see the value of their education and how it translates into into a job and you know you could take an economic SC or you know kind of these very narrow courses and or you could say I'm going to be an engineer and you don't know what the the work is but giving them that practical context is very valuable maybe no I don't have okay thank than um so I'm a I'm a pel grant recipient from a food and secure in the first graduate for my family in uh rural for Macho um and it was not something that was automatic nor was it supported I mean it was supported in a sense that I had freedom to do it but it was not something that was easy to do and it came down to a community member that reached out and provided that support in the way that my family couldn't and I think that the value of community in Indianapolis is something that we're engaging with heavily to do this nxg Motorsports a great program in Indianapolis is doing this and we're trying to find ways to do this but the intentionally in that scale um and in a way that's just kind of my my personal um drive as Tac officer any happens is he done thank you all those are wonderful comments Dennis follow up but I'm going to be mindful Lucas Nancy had a question at one point answered it answer okay very good just want to make sure any other final questions I think we're against time but awesome presentation thank you well I'm excited to turn the stage over to our commissioner commissioner Lowry for his report which will include uh the state of of Education report that's been referenced briefly and you will find reference to it in on page 13 in your agenda book as well as a copy of the report uh here for the commission so commissioner Lowry you're up chair how do you follow that I I mean really you know I was I was making notes on my notes two things by thank you this my report and U the following content on the state High report probably five minutes so I'm take a few of my minutes to share with you what I think has been a t Force inspiring for me personally in the last roughly 20 hours here in P University campus um I wish all of you have been with me I'm inspired I'm bullish on what higher education can do um you know about the thing we talk about every day that is the opportunities and possibilities through education and I can tell you was able to Bear witness to that last 20 hours or so and starting this I want to thank president Shang and the whole Purdue team host it's just been exceptional um from visitation yesterday Samantha deserves recognition she brought together a wonderful group of students with whom I got to spend about 90 minutes we had 60 Minutes schedule so you can tell it was just an exceptional experience and U this man Le it just uh remarkably well you know the the Purdue team has laid out for us in so many different ways not just in the last 24 hours or so but consistently the value of what we have to offer in higher education um yesterday almost as soon as I got here a couple others on team and I practically ran to one of the Halls about a quar mile from here to meet with I don't know 20 or 25 students I think all of whom all of whom for 21st century Frank Scholars loog students who were just delighted to be there Shar with me she wasn't sure how many people would show up I can tell you this there was not an empty seat when I walked in exactly :00 and each of those students each one was engaging and had just a you know remarkable story to tell the the way that they um are inspired and the way they inspired um was something for me to take note of some you know a lot of notes and I did so then shortly after that checking in here several of us go over to the B Center and once again uh led by just you know an incredible Purdue professional Dr Chen received a fairly quick T but as in depth as we could get for the time we had of what's possible there and we included it by meeting with a half a dozen or so again remarkable students um thought it was interesting that one of the individual's comments talking about making the science side of what produced so well four accessible to the liberal arts student one of the students with whom we met uh I believe started out as an art major and then talked about the way in which she views um threedimensional objects and her curiosity about threedimensional objects and what's happening inside as well so she's an engineer now becoming an engineer and you know in each one of those settings uh especially over Burke Center and then talking with the other students earlier in the day it was clear there's this integration of the students with research with work what we call traditional work-based learning experiences the Hands-On stuff with employers and this is working right it was fun by the way to be at bur Center late yesterday not sure who was here might with us at that experience yesterday but one of the students received a question about so this to learn that be that this this crazy moment these 2021 22 year old by oh my goodness and um you know give you some some context around the the work that goes on there you got to get a tour if you haven't been you've got to go um you know from the clean labs to uh The Unbelievable computing power and so forth that is there the research facilities um this was one I look wrote down I could never guessed this well everything Microsoft does for Quantum Starts Here pause let that so in everything Microsoft does for Quantum starts here at the birth center that's just absolutely um amazing you know and then on the personal note some of you notice I sh realizes this because she texted me the information later I found out as I thought about B at the way they're they're streaming down into K12 with with scale and really helping your students by the way they've run that program nationally scale is is Led right here out of this campus so there's a great presence around Indiana one of the things Mr chairman I took interest in and some of you I think who are here today probably want to sign up to they have something called GPU right yeah grandparents University so 5-year-old El might have gotten text be of her mother last night that said hey Ellie we've got to look at grandar University kids as young as five six and seven yes coming with grandness begin discovering their interests great idea Mr chair that's exactly right so you know this was just a a great way to start uh I this this session again taking notes and listening to our Purdue colleagues talk you know excellence and programs and affordability for Access equal quality and communication seem we to grab that and as long as it's not copyrighted start using the Daylights out um yeah for me this has been essentially master class in the last 20 hours or so that comes on the heels of and I'll make my transition quickly Mr chairman we get into my report um not quite 48 hours ago there was a budget committee here on higher heads proposal going forward of course you as commission approved last week unanimously your budg productivity chair Mike Al was able to be there um all I would say is you were not able to tune in you might want to go back and watch I walked away um very pleased uh the questions and the interest and pushing members of the budget committee were yeah very encouraging I felt like all of us were on the same page how do we get more H your students to go how do we get more of them to complete and how do we get them to stay once they do so that was good thank you Mr chairman uh for being there Mike um I I think it's set a tone certainly for this week so if I transition into my formal slides here Mr chairman I would be remissed if I did not and I'm going to look at my own notes here take just a minute to acknowledge a couple of fine colleagues that we have um folks who have become extraordinary Partners not just for the commission but for me personally helping over the last two and a half years sometimes show um and uh providing wise counsel to us um celebrating for them but it's a loss for higher education here in Indiana El and offinger from PR University and him with fall State University are both going to be lead their respective Institutions and state so that that's a loss for us and we we need to acknowledge them I would ask you to join in Round of Applause I see would both of you let me embarrass you and have you s [Music] please you know these are two of our colleagues from higher education shown me a lot of patience over the last cou years answered stupid questions um but also just off to the side invited wise counsel and I know they do that with so many folks and they not only represented their institutions just remarkably well they they have represented higher education and its possibilities and opportunities um with um with the gold standard so Lea and we wish you only the best certainly both institutions have identified individuals who would will be uh trying to fill their shoes as I would recommend to you as I came into my role a couple years ago I said I'm not going to try to fill anybody's shoes I'm just going to bring my own I would recommend to these two individuals that they do the same uh Kimber Le who some of you know from the stateboard of csil will be joining Purdue University and Craig overhal will be joining Ball State University will certainly welcome KRA and Craig and having them become part of this pirate family that is trying to deliver on Miss with which we've been charged now last formal thing Mr chairman as we launch into my presentation is I want to share with all of you what you have probably heard and hopefully you have read already today uh day four on the job how about this his first day on the job was the holiday um which was Monday but officially day four on the job uh I want to recognize and forly introduce to you Dr Matt Butler who is the new senior associate commissioner and chief academic officer who has just joined us by the way I could not be more delighted he said yes to us that he chose us um Dr Butler will now lead commission's postsecondary academic efforts including among other things transfer credit dual credit campus mission statement policies and will lead our emerging work in revamping the process for new degree program approval and review of the more than 3,000 existing degre offerings in our public institution alone here in Indiana um Matt also now serve as Le Aon between the commission acemic institution around the state and as executive director board for board proprietary education uh many of you may not this prior to joining the commission Matt served in the office of Governor Eric hul as senior policy director for senior policy advisor for education and Workforce um the place where he and I began working very closely together nights weekends all of those things so getting with us um his previous roles have included vice president external engagement at invested again a great partner by ours add House of Representatives on fiscal policy team with the ways the means committee and his Communications and policy advisor uh Matt graduated with distinction and fight cap FR yes our host Purdue University he told me it felt like he was home last night um majoring in history minoring in biological sciences his graduate work was also in history earning a master's degree from William Mary and yes he does have a doctor degree from a place you may have heard of before the University of Cambridge he is a lifelong user who lives in Indianapolis and we are so delighted that you chose us matter with that too Mr chairman I would need to ask you and the commission to have a formal um acknowledgement of his joining the staff we have to do that for senior members who are joining our staff so you would need sir if you're so inclined to entertain a motion I would be most inclined and I want to extend welcome to Matt and appreciation for you joining us I I you took it on faith that youd get a positive vote here today I appreciate uh you know jumping in uh with that risk out there so uh with that said we I a motion for approval of Dr is our new what' you say I didn't hear you thank you any comments questions accolades words of warning wonderful H wonderful hire Perfect all in favor say I I I I okay take a breath official Welcome All right yes again congratulations M and once again thank you to our colleagues PR University host just privil right um Mr chairman I will make this forun and really the next as brief as possible so that we stay on time you know I've been asked by certainly you and other members of the commission to to revisit the top line as often as we can and I think one it is very helpful because uh those who listen in those who are partners with us have begun to really grasp these um I Heard the Hope agenda reference multiple times this morning I South County that pleases me um you know we heard it referen in the budget committee heing the other day and particularly the conon they they're in you know the seven you're going to hear more about those as we talked about the state of higher education report and then as Aon starts talking about what we're doing um you know from our dashboard so you you'll hear more about that you know what those are and I think they really be repeating that Indiana is pursuing the goal of being the top 10 in each one of these seven key areas uh college going rate for Youth and adults um postsecondary tainment for those with disabilities veterans those military service and adjust involved to be a talk in FA credit for prior learning the rate of prach the rate which students successfully complete their courses of study certainly ret retaining Talent by the way I love hearing so many leaders R and now talk about that it's almost daily um and then last the six and seven that really tie all these together be a top 10 state in measurable distinction of economic social mobility and prosperity and then lastly a place to grow start bring your business based on the strength of capital u one that has been updated in here I would tell you I'm very pleased and that is the rate of completion Indiana is now tied for 10 in the nation yes we were seeking to be a top 10 State we are now tied for 10 um what I would share with you is that we are starting to sharpen our focus and I would tell you like now said publicly I know Mike Aly was there to hear the other day at budget committee I think this state should start putting its eyes on being the top fate in the nation by 2030 at the rate of completion it's an aggressive goal so are the rest on this page if we don't set aggressive goals will never come close the laky pipeline we've talked about that certainly again from the completion rate we're improving upon that as we get to the middle um you know I think we'll begin seeing signs that our enrollment we know enrollment is improving so the college rate will be improving twice two years in a row I'll talk about that in moment we've seen increases in enrollment after 12 year continued Decline and grad retention we now have all those plans from all of the universities and they are pretty incredible we'll talk about those in 24 Century Scholars um wow you know between this and the pre-admissions which I'll hit on the next slide I have received more Outreach from hoers families uh Business Leaders others just you know just really pleased that that this has been taking place we don't have it on here but you may recall in 2022 before this went into effect uh the state was only able to reach about 20,000 young people who otherwise qualified to be a 21st century scholar less than half and to be very correct about it I think all of you and many many of our partners frankly took us a moral calling that we could be better than that and of course in 2023 being the Cobo of 2027 high school graduates um we saw more than 46,000 I say kids young people enrolled and then of course this year at the end of June exceeding 50,000 you know my math says those two years would have only totaled about 20 about 40 45,000 students maybe and we're talking about nearly 100,000 this this will be a game Cher for a lot of lives to reflect what was said up here by our princi you not only the individual but individual's families individual's communities certain employers that will engage them at some point um and our state the pre admissions work just a quick update I think you know of this but I'm going to G on to something that said three times by our friends from Purdue student Choice U you may recall that much of the impetus for this was to somehow create a better Marketplace for students and their families to think about what is offered here in Indiana public and private school and that to which they may Avail themselves um you know and I also took the proo comments uh his own description of being the first generation food insecure students who now leading academics at Pur University in Indianapolis yeah that doesn't get cluse I don't know what does um but having that choice available learning that you might be accepted into dozens of Institutions here in Indiana uh we'll know more as we started study the data we're convinced that we'll see improvements in our involment college going great to ca these affects more than 67,000 High School seniors this year uh along with their parents keep that in mind because that also ties very closely to our heart and mind research said we've got engaged parents a lot more uh a lot more effectively so good news there um nearly 40 of our hired at University campuses and location participating in that uh you've seen this we we keep having to update this Michelle every time we're with the commission members U that uh we have gone from 84 high schools now exceeds 280 uh in a matter of two years um some of you were not on the commission Michelle was reminding me of this of the other day and she said the same to Matt she said Matt watch out at a commission meeting um Michelle started the Tuesday after Labor Day and then commission members you met on Thursday and it was literally just in a setting like this that we were talking about the college core and um Michelle and I have talked about it and we were saying you know we've got 84 schools but it looks like we have more this fall you know maybe over 100 and it was literally in that public setting where we said GE seems like 500 ought to be a you know basically every High School in state in Indiana and um so Matt I'm thinking about what the AUD go but you know she and the entire team have embraced this um certainly we had the legislation passed this last year C World act 8 which supports that work supports the high schools um provides that also a benefit to school corporations for completing Student Success college for I think well on the way there um how we're addressing you know some of the challenges have been thrown at us they'll hear a little bit more about fast but later today I think you'll hear sort of a post a postm on what I just keep saying is the federal you know Fiasco of fasta the last 12 to 15 months or so um nothing really changed there other than just to say that you know India remains number one in terms of um uh being the closest to our completion rate year-over-year tied I think it is revers in terms of the number of lowi income students who have actually applied run only two states that are actually ahead of last year M by by a bit but otherwise every state the nation is behind and you know for me that is the number one metric because you know we are we are mostly trying to help those low-income students where we saw decline for a decade in their college enrolment that that drove almost all the declin of college going rate so so this is important um and then the enrollment rate itself uh I think you've seen those pieces of information from all of us we now have two years in a row this fall and last fall where we have an enrollment an enrollment increased in the state of Indiana uh to some up for you that is with resident and non-resident students and that is the public and private institutions good um you know the last thing I would end up saying was some adoration there you know of a place we need to focus on improving all that even more but that's encouraging um you know part of the involvement is not only you bringing students in but see that they're continuing and you I mentioned the students with whom we met yesterday afternoon you 21st century Scholars and others I think all uh are produ promise yeah produ promise students and Mr chairman I I took a little bit of grief uh during that meeting not from the students mind you but from some of our Purdue colleagues because they were reminding me that was roughly two years ago U there was that we sold Michelle Ashcraft from Purdue U if you don't remember she ran her new promise for a decade and um we had a program where 21st century Scholars and others who are in it um have a completion rate that just as successful as May it's even more successful now than the broader student body so those things are possible and we saw it yesterday a quick update commission members you some of you have probably already responded we have two working sessions on the calendar virtual working sessions for next week that'll be Thursday and Friday in which you can participate if you would like to this I think Mr chairman this idea that you put forward that our last meeting and that was do we have some sort of brainstorming whiteboard sessions around the findings that we had from heart and mind strategies we have gotten a a lot of feedback favorable to that research the uh Lily endowment is keenly interested in what the next steps are a couple of us from the commission staff couple senior folks are going to be meeting with those uh leaders toward the end of next week and yeah you know from the headline standpoint I think the most important thing for us to know is that students and their parents value higher education like um but they're in we we don't do nearly a good enough job of reaching parents and young people especially said that their parents really matter these decisions um in spite of what we may think teenagers think of their parents um they actually value them very highly number one in um helping make those kinds of decisions also I thought it was really interesting to sit and listen to the folks talk about produ Student Success today uh we heard things I believe related to this next topic the second big finding was that students just vastly do not get enough career coaching uh career navigation and work-based learning experience to help that by their decisions and to help them make a good choice uh for either going or you know determining what they might study so parents really really matter career coaching navigation work-based learning really really matters and there is a vast misunderstanding about cost and even the programs that we have that we're rightfully so proud of but that not merely enough who understand the way they should so we've got a work cut out for that for us but I think it's um um it's certainly good work and it also Dan and I was talking up here a little bit before the meeting started that it D Tails well if you think about it with the other two really significant um projects or strategic initiatives we've had theu the report from the Pentagon Partners so we have that a lot of common themes um hard and mind strategy report and then and about two slides here the state of higher education report that help start bringing all these things together to say else do we need to be doing as we pursue these top three goals to the Hope gradate retention you know I said we would talk about this briefly you I think all of you know this was something new for the outcom based performance funding formula now two years ago and um you know from qualitative standpoint again it's been interesting to me now to hear this topic talked about Wily um chamber of Congress meetings and you know frankly various boards that I'm want places where I wouldn't necessarily expect it to come up that people are talking about this saying what's what's our role of this how how might we be engaged in this the institutions certainly step forward all of you know that each has a strategic plan on gradate retention uh We've listened a few kind of small print here but things that are being done you know for University right here at West laia you know having created the Office of experiential education help identify develop and connect students with companies um again bur Center last night employers are all over these students they want them they want them badly um University of Southern Indiana they're internship programs huge involvement by the um uh the employer Community with their students and of course we heard has talked about a few different times U the ambassadors program that all state university has created and the reason we wanted to mention just a few examples is that you know I think all of us agree that we're not sure what the best ways are to make this happen but there are a lot of common things and the Really the entrepreneurial way in which the institution have been approaching this is is going to help all of smart um you know this best practice over here this one over here and how do we borrow those ideas all fundamentally knowing we just got to connect with employers and students much earlier much more often and have real Hands-On experiences and as we get ready to go to the higher education report U I'd also like to introduce a few folks who are new to the organization I have to admit I'm not sure if everybody was able to come um good okay yeah I feel bad I was doing my thing this morning and then yeah you've already met Dr Matt Butler and Maya and Michaela have also joined us as CD program managers and if they would please stand yeah and join me wel I think as as May m w I'm glad they chosen us and uh by the way they were also able to endure the the think fairly robust interview process you know you now know we have so well done on that you can you can handle anything so just so glad you joined our team the state of higher education report um Aon is really going to get in what I think is the coolest stuff here in just a few minutes and that's the dashboard but you know the the report just remind you of the shift we made starting about a year and a half ago really starts to reflect how viewing data how we feel viewing data leadership and the the graphic on the right is just Bros I just I love this one um you can serve this on plate for me I I would be very happy you know data is only mildly interesting unless you do something with it and I think what you'll see with the state of H Ed report the dashboards is this emergence of of our trying to take this in terms of the insights and then using the insights to inform our strategies and more granularly the plans and then those initiatives that individuals own and we think that's really important individuals have the commission we have I think 66 employees on our team individuals own those things um looking at the actions that we take on a regular basis team leaders with their teams on a weekly basis and then monthly meetings and we do accordly Hands-On meeting um and measuring those and seeing how we're doing with those um having accountability but then taking those those findings that we have from work that's going on turning it into dat yes and having the virual cycle that it continues to inform our um I think our entire team would agree that one of the worst things that happen is if we we launch off onto a strategy plans and initiatives and so forth and for 2 or 3 years no one takes account of what's actually happening and you look up in two or 3 years and go well je that didn't work um you know besides being waste of resources frankly it's pretty dishonoring to the individual who does the work so how how are we doing that um again shifting away from data focused reports to data informed reports we hope you'll be seeing that more open from us uh as Aaron starts to talk here in a few moments you de oping data we want it accessible to you we want it accessible to the 6.8 million hoers we serve on a regular basis and not just relying on um you know stale lagging data but showing things like enrollment and then underneath enrollment what's informing that you know whether it's our pre-admissions program whether it's you know how we're en 203 Scholars we'll start to see those impacts in 2027 and 28 um you know to to be able to do those things but also promoting collaboration thinking again of our colleagues from Purdue um I think it was David from IND Indianapolis who was talking about Community uh and the importance of community to me that also reflects our partnership we all know we cannot do this alone whether it's our agency or whether it's high Ed and so as we think about as partners in community Fai based organizations businesses and others it's going to be critically important that we utilize these these in sites um to have our collaborative Partners be participatory in it data strategy I won't get into this deeply but you know thinking about the value of data you is it usable is it useful is it used right all of those things are different and they matter um you know as we think about compiling those but been communicating those synthesizing those that actually been lead to action so we can make much better decisions and you know Bret hit me the last 20 or so hours talking with various our colleagues from University that's the way they run this interprise and you I don't know if M Danel gives credit for having started that that be my guess um that's what they do U you know besides the programmatic um uh details that many of them were sharing yesterday afternoon last evening this morning um to me I think it's also important to think obviously Enterprise run uh because none of those things work as well as they could without U really focusing on that and the way in which you use data uh understand whether it's actually use useful and useful really matters um structure of of the report the report is structured as you would guess I think you already know around hope another through I think it say again talking about alignment and we have to be relentlessly aligned in what we're doing and that includes in the state of higher education repor so you'll see that and of course if I said is released in tand with the dashboard is going to start talking about here in about two or three minutes that brings us back to here this is the as we think about the goals uh getting to top 10 by 2030 you know it's uh I wouldn't say it's every day it's at least some point every week where someone makes a comment to me about those goals and some instances being fairly audacious and I guess my general response is typically you're connected um right we have to be striving for positioning Indiana on behalf the people we serve to reach for something higher there there's a quote on my whiteboard some you know there's big whiteboard in my office markers you Haven visit my office please be markers you're welcome to use them just under racist quote have the right hand side I'm paraphrasing I think about the goals we set and and how we're now trying to use data to seek the insights and understand the actions that we have strategy plans and initiative why that have this accountability move and then be refram this over time they they are in some instances audacious goals they're certainly stretch goals and we have the same for each individual on our team and we do celebrate the successes but this quote and I'm paraphrasing it's on my board came from the wise leader that said um who said we teach too many people to hike rather than to climb and um I would dare say what we're trying to do is help our state clim um be very blunt I think we've been hiking too long we had a postsecondary attainment rate of bachelor's degrees and higher that is the same in terms of ranking from the day I was born that was in the early 1960s as it is today we spent too much time hiking and the state of higher education report in and up itself is not ation but it is part of s mic ear it's part of a mosaic that's being put together and it's coming together along with partnership P rep along with heart and mind strategy rep goinging along with the strategies and initiatives that fall under the Hope agenda that that this Mosaic that will help us get there and Mr chair I'd be glad to entertain kind questions or comments U my guess is what Aon has to show is much more interesting what she probably had it here me but I went to set the state for this and the context for it and also to thank all of you for your willingness to be supported these three big ideas in addition to the other which you expect us to to deliver because we really do believe these are the things that are going to come together that literally will help our St I entertain any questions or comments Chris thank you very much for your leadership and and a great report and U I guess just to feedb back and be can start discussion before being started just another way information has been compiled the learnings that have been compiled after the learnings um the way I think about it it's not any unique statement but it helps us think in a way of of the old add what so what not what and how do you take all that information and in a concise way not focus on boiling the ocean but in particular focus on the the key three or four or five things or whatever it is uh that will move us from hiking climbing so um yeah for what's worth just great stuff so others questions comments ready for ER just U don't want to get too far away from the presentation and just really appreciate the knowledge um the data specifically around the the college going rate that 2% increase and then you know um our efforts are helping uh the non-public um universities and colleges as well to see that 5% increase with with our initiatives is is driving change throughout the state so just want to acknowledge that and appreciate uh the efforts and the results it's it's pretty inent I'm be very proud of I actually did have question Michelle before you BL off right you're just moving I'm just the slide on the college core um it talked about 90% I think it said 90% of the students that complete the go on the higher end yeah what What's the total I mean does that represent 500 students 200 students yeah over the course of the cohorts that have had the opportunity for the new cour College gr rates range from 90 to 94% actually um so 94% has been our high then um we're producing around 2,300 certificates a year right now and that will exponentially grow with the number height what that come on to offer that a big step that is huge right so bumping up to that 22500 when you think of got the map right here head where we were two and a half years ago or when Michelle got her public assignments here um we have the the the number of high schools is 3.5 times work we have and the um and I think that's also important I think in my old business dur Market penetration so so now we've penetrated more customers if you will the high schools and there's so much more a focus at each one of those High School on more of their students doing that in fact they have a Bogi now they they are rewarded financially for successful completion of that you know um so I I can remember paron it's going to Michelle said explode um and Aaron and Brook and team are helping us think about how forecast that too because Michelle correct me if I'm wrong I think in looking at various ways to slice and dice the data any college for recipients or earners let's say earners have the highest college going rate of anybody can slice so more well and not to blor it but you think about this a great example of the what so now what the data the data shows that 90% now where you learn right is okay is that that are those 2,000 students would they have gone on anyway would they would they be completing at that and going at that rate anyway and I'm not saying they are but you're hoping that it's it's it's making it more financially possible that that group on goes on but hopefully it's reaching kids that maybe necessarily on that path or thinking they could be on that path it's what I would say is is very related chairman we know that when we started looking and realized only 84 schools were doing this um probably not surprising there huge number want but schools that have been up booked or have not been supported as well in doing so were often times low income schools low income represented schools um uh High percentages of unre populations so again you know um all of this makes sense from the data mission where the large goals you to me it also just madees sense in doing the right thing um and reaching students who should should be afforded this opportunity by the way several of the students yesterday um in that 21st century you talked with had completed the DAT CA cour um you some I'm talking about completing three years now heading on to the master's degree and Y Mak it's kind of way we want this thing work yeah that's Mr chair at the conclusion of Chris's [Music] presentation mediate comment and I can only speak for myself I it was so rich I was just [Music] process process so that's number one [Music] encouragement be encour the key pring to the heals on behalf of the C that could be perhaps long return especially when you're taking Moon shots but all the presentation just seems to suggest that you have very clear vision for the state and you're hard [Music] charging I'm I'm the kind of person who when it's 30 de outside there's one person out there Jobing I'm the one that R down said they are the people who are when people are with you need people like that that say man you are down into life you are going after it and you you need those kinds of bail weathers who just they send people to come and and I feel like that's what I see with Chris just kind of the aspiration to take in Indiana so thank you and then with that just a thought of advice and going back to my question we have the individuals Student Success Student Success we must know something about success again in the spirit of the common good don't want as many people as possible to be successful especially performance I I think with your Ang reports it's helpful to actually figure out what some success formula is and message that along with your reports not assuming that everybody knows what success he is not assuming that everybody understands it really appreciating our thinking from mind that what if no one understood what success was and then what then what three points Four Points would I share so that if someone decided to look at these three or four points it may change their lives because ultimately you start getting scale by penetrating that group where somebody has given up on but if there's some introduction of what success looks like that's where you begin to build build the scale of your populace We Begin then shape our bare shape culture so now people start feeling like other communities I'm in such a Forex of culture that I have cushion some asan some kind of success spread out across people and disaar this is what Contin to try to spread it out to have something that's getting me closer so I be encouraged asce councel thank you commission Mr chairman before Aon starts to talk though I I want to make the point really really really clear U first of all generous comments and thank you um I appreciate the analogy of running I run I try to um we have a team of folks though who I barely keep up with every day you let to be clear about that you're going to hear from just a few of them today a few more here today um if you don't know all of them yet I really encourage you to get to know them because they they are folks who are on our team who joined it because they know we are truly no kidding honestly goodness on misstion and they went like crazy every day I really really mean it there are days I'm wow I'm just going to try and keep up um so thanks for the comments please know your comments uh really are cast on all of them because they are the ones who are making this get to hear from one of them who I bug all weird kind of times of the day you text on Saturday night hey here to see this crazy article in the New York Times or this thing in uh the Eon or something he does the same to me so us um morning everybody um I have believe I've been able to meet of the longer standing members of the commission the newer members hello I'm Aon ol assisant director for data analytics um with the business intelligence team work needs um today I'm going to be talking about the Das um this dashboard once that it's launched today it's actually on the website right now um will be one of our most frequently referen and most fre use public data products so I'm going to go a little bit behind the scenes and um show you our process for updating those F rankings that we talk about so much but hopefully the next time we talk about those numbers you have a better idea of where they're coming from and then also if our technology agrees with us I'll be giving a demo of the dashboard I have a couple back te not agree so we'll work through it so when we were designing this dashboard uh our our main role in putting it out there is that we wanted to serve as the quote one source of truth I think Chris maybe used that phrase or something similar he was talking to and I uh you see those rankings in a lot of places you see them in reports you seen them in some stories from the media Chris references them um we wanted to have a place where anybody could go and get the most up toate rankings at any point in time and that when we update those rankings you could get them immediately because those numbers change over time and I'm going to show you how they change and how that it works also we wanted uh you to be able to see the trend over time so when we show you those rankings usually you just see one number right so when Chris was talking about 10th in degree completion you just see that one number you don't see where we started from and where and where potentially eventually where we're going what's the trend of time that's another goal um kind of dashboard also we wanted to create some accountability right so commissioner L has set out really audacious goals for the commission and for the State uh rather and we wanted to uh you know be honest about the places where we're not doing as so well right and have up front center and we of been wanted to celebrate the places where we've been able to get top 10 books so those were really the three main uh goals in setting out the the H this uh Das word fits into the commission's data strategy the new data strategy that Chris mentioned a little bit with a a nicer version of this graphic um I made this slide deck report it was pretty up by a Doug or creative dire um but the really the two main things here is that as a whole the commission is trying to move from static and unresponsive reports to more Dynamic Dash reports so we we have had some longstanding Dash reports um but we want to be moving more of our reporting to that format rather than having just annual reports on individual topics uh also a newer thing um for us is using more National Data sources so traditionally we have used mostly internal data um to look at our performance but the Hope agenda was one of the first times that we took a a a large effort to look at what all the available data is and I saw Josh was laughing and Chris well um there are a lot of conversations between uh myself Chris Josh Brooke SE um various leaders of the commission um trying to you know search far and wide for the best available data and I'm going to talk about some of those sources here one yes so uh when you see those rankings you know when Chris talks about you we're now ranked x uh in a certain goal those rankings are coming from I believe I've got six sources on here um and you can see in that column to the right the associated goals those are the goals that that each of those sources are allowing us to rank IND so I'm going to just zoom in on a couple of them because I don't have I could talk all day just about this one slide um but I I want to zoom out just a few of them to give you an idea of what we're using so the first one you see there the census bure's American Community survey um if you're not familiar with that or you've probably heard of it before um I believe it is the largest ongoing uh survey in the country they survey 3 to four million people a year um so in between the decennial census S Check me on that um each year the census is surveying deeper Beyond just population they're asking questions about about disability about veteran status about educational attainment about income all these things um that allow us to compare Indiana to other states and that data comes out every year so you can you don't have to wait for the next desend census to get that information so you can see we use that quite heavily wherever we can um that's used for goals 1 two5 and 7 another one I just want to highlight because we we Supply data to them uh or we work with with them is the national student Clearing House um that is what Chris was talking about the degree completion rate earlier U the national student Clearing House collects data from I believe 97 or 98% of all uh higher education institutions in the country and they have individual student tracking um available for every student enroll it any of those 97 98% what that means is they're able to track students no matter where they transfer to if they transfer across state lines they're able to track that and then they uh do some aggregation of that and put out data on completion rates so traditionally you know we've been able to we're able to see data on our students right that our institutions but once they go out of state we don't have data on those institutions so we actually are able to work with the student Clearing House to be able to check you know where did those students go did they complete within 6 years which is the the extended time window so if we didn't have that partnership all we wouldn't be able to look at those students so that is how we are ranking Indiana on full F number Bo also mum Foundation is a you know local local partner but they're really a national leader in terms of uh the educational payment rankings that they do and that's where we get the data for goal number seven yeah move on just a little bit about un subnational and then the national human development index this commission member is just a remind really quickly is our ranking in terms of economic and social mobility and prosperity and Aon and the team found this specific number to help us figure that out you want talk about briefly I might have a comment so the un human development index has been been been around for a while um I believe a couple decades and that was a metric that they set for countries initially um the human development index has three components it has a measure of expected years of schooling so um I believe anywhere from 15 to 18 years is the is kind of the The Benchmark um also it calculates um income and it normalizes that across all countries and then it also calculates life expectancy and it puts all those things together in one index to give a one number uh for the prosperity or economic and social mobility of a country so what the subnational development index does is it takes that same metric and applies it to the States of each or the provinces or subnational areas of each country so we're able to take that longstanding metric that's been used um very widely and apply it to each state and then we're able to see where Indiana ranks on those three things the expected years of schooling um income and life expectancy compared to each state and and really importantly the state may be obvious here is this also helps us look at and understand where we are in terms of our competitors around the globe you know we talked about North Carolina and Georgia and our competition relative to B T ire 20 23rd and 2th but this also helps us compare to other nations I think the US is 20th in the current national or Global ranking somewhere somewhere right so that helps us contextualize that as a country we're not doing as well as we could um especially amongst o Nations but then as a state right we all realize that Germany is a comp um that Singapore is a competitor that right the long list and so um I we thinking about that and also as you probably remember when you look at the other rankings there there is not much space between the rankings of numbers six and seven right Associated Korean High 39 nation and we're 35th in the nation obviously right and then there are all kinds of Health rank and still out that help number that was talking about that would show us you know 35th 38 4th um so anyway just wanted you to note that because we think it's important that we don't um certainly we we want to compare ourselves to other states but not be so myopic and excluding the rest of B globe and this um the subnational human development index is run out of the University of believe in the the me they they do this for every province in Canada every province in Nigeria all all subnational areas are able to be compared across the boat which is a really quite amazing thing to they put together so you look at all these sources data is coming from different places so that data is not on the same schedule in terms of when it will be updated so we have put together a quarterly update a quarterly ranking update Pence where each quarter um the the bi team take a look each of those sources we kind of know when we think they there should be new data if there is any new data we go and we access it we download it and we put it into this um I won't if you were at the meeting yesterday where we talked to the students in Brook ask questions about the python and R uh coding languages it's actually a really long R script that pulls all these things together um we put it in there we calculate the new rankings and then there's a there's kind of a circular thing going on here on the right where the bi and the markom teams and then the program leaders uh at CH have discussions about what the rankings might mean what our initiatives how our initiatives might be impacting those rankings and we have that discussion and Analysis and once we've kind of got a good handle on where things are then those new rankings will be uh released to the various places where they go the dashboard being one of those things so here's now where we see if our technology agrees with us so yes question sure go ahead the previous graphic was kind of interesting because you said look at the data you meet you talk about what that could mean so it's not just purely data driven there's a little bit of analysis and contextualization that goes on before the ranking block correct yeah so we see we see what those uh you know right um but then there's a lot of context behind it I'll show you in the next slides just because a ranking changes doesn't necessarily mean that things got better or worse all states are moving as well even those franking change so Indiana could be improving on a number but other states could be improving faster so the ranking have change right so that's kind of what that discussion is like hey we jumped two spots does that mean anything or is it just aun of we we stay the same everybody else felt does that make sense no I and I appreciate that that's good thank you and by the way I think i' love that question because it goes to the heart of I really for credit for this pushing us to think about the data informed right and I know that's true too um you know so that pick on myself so I'm not the one sitting in a meeting and saying hey I think this is a cool idea right the the team say well okay maybe that's interesting C how they this we're not quite that with me they easier with me but literally to do those kind of Assessments it's working okay so uh right now if you go to the commission website and go to the data tab there's a new tab there for dashboard I have made it full screen here uh this first page you will be familiar with because Chris was talking about it earlier so this is our rankings at GL right so whenever those rankings are updated this is the first first page that will be updated this can be downloaded at the PDF at the bottom if you if you click one of these buttons so if you ever need to get those rankings it prints it out in a nice PDF uh clean format for you one thing I'd like to point out on the rankings here that there is a TVA on one of them which is go three the um utilization of credi learning there's an as down there at the bottom we are currently working with um institutions in Indiana to uh have a uniform lay for them to be tracking credit learning right now there's not a uniform way across those institutions and then there's also not a uniform way nationally so that's why we don't have ranking at this time but we're hoping to be a leader on that once we get that going with our institutions and hoping to be able to push that conversation actually where we could get Arrangement so as soon as we get that it will be it will be up there I go to the second tab here um this is where you can start to see those rankings over time so I am going to choose the goal we've really been talking about today a lot the degree completion rate so this is what our uh degree completion rate looks like over time and you can select any of these goals here from this drop down so if I'd like to see the associate or high entainment which is go s switch that see how that is looking over time I'll go back to degree comption so you can see back in 2017 we were ranked 16 and there's kind of been a steady increase and then for each of these we've put a trend line through the middle so as soon as you open it you can see are we trending up or down and that was really our goal with this right away you can see are we flat are we up are we down and that can inform those discussions of each time we have rtings how do that line move is that slope is that slope getting steeper uh negatively or positively and that can maybe impact or have have a discussion about how our programs are impact in rankings another thing you'll be able to see which you haven't been able to see before are the actual numbers behind this so there's a button here where you can toggle the view in between the chart and a table so if I go back to the other view when we say we went from 16 to 10 what does it actually mean right if you click right here you can see those completion rates so over here is there's a description the six-year completion rate of 2e and foure students and 2 year four institutions you can see that's gone up from 59% all the way up to 68% right so that's a huge increase in six years another example of what I was talking about earlier if I switch to associate or hire payment and this is what Chris talked about um defitely goes back to 2012 but if we were able to go back further we've basically been at the same spot over time with a little bit of variation year to year which I think is mostly statistical noise to be honest what's interesting with this is if you click here you can see that our associat or higher attainment rate has been increasing right so a decade ago 3 34% now it's 42% however most a lot of other states are increasing faster than Indian so our ranking has really not changed whereas uh our uh rate has increased and those are the types of discussion we talked about um had meetings with Chris and and Josh and set and various people talk about this it's just not fast enough right and what are the inputs to that and how do we change that down the bottom there's some more more information about the sources here and when you could expect the next uh update um so we're just trying to give more context and and more information about these rankings not just having a static PDF also if you would like to see a deeper look at this you can go to the data notes so if I wanted to go to go four which I was just looking at completion we have links here as well to the actual sources so just to be more transparent and having not to be a black box okay the commission said 10 you know it actually comes from somewhere right and that's that's our our whole purpose behind this that word I'll take any questions hopefully so the next steps with the dashboard right so it's pretty simple at this point we are working on a lot more that we're not ready to show you yet but we will be showing at some point uh we've got three categories here um for the the next steps so the first one is uh development and discussion of internal key indicators so for each of those goals we are developing um indicators that have more to do with our our initiative and programs so I put an example up here for you of for the Youth college going rid a significant key Communicator would be our fter completions right if we see fter completion the fter completion R going start to go way down that would be a huge red flag for us in terms of we might think the the college would go down it's holding steady right now despite all the things that commissioner L was talking about so that makes us feel feel pretty good um if you take that with some other data so we are working on we have a list of some things right now not ready to to show that publicly but we're talking about that another thing is forecasting un trajectory so I've started to talk with commissioner Lowry and some others about you know if you see that trend line that I was showing for some of them what does that look like in in 2030 right and what are the inputs that can changed to SL of that line we are we are working on that and again maybe we'll be sharing at some point uh what the final thing that goes along with that is what would the goal what would the target number actually need to be for us to reach 10th place right so if we talk about 10th place we would need some sort of Hard Target um so what attainment rate do we need to have in 2030 to be 10 we're starting to work on that we have some ideas but again Chris is I see Chris is smiling here so that's kind of where this is going and I will leave it there because I think to just a quick comment but first of all eron You' done so much of this were certainly I in the business intelligence area there's so much it's gone into this now 25 minute presentation you gave it's really remarkable work um get forecasting as as just one example I think something that took a while I think everybody's wrapped hold of this now on this mean is that when you start talking about forecasting that that makes people a little Twitchy you probably see than a thousand times right um but what we try to do is convey the folks that look um it it's this is a data informed process um at least speaking from you know a few years of my own experience in private sector especially a forecast is just never right um it just it didn't going to happen uh it might come really really close or it might be all more than than what you want it to be but I st that to you because it's part of the culture we've been trying to create the entire team of you know that look there's going to be great here but we are going to forecast right we're all going to you know step up and say okay you know I either exceeded or didn't this other goal so going forward what's that look like and how's that been you know say Fe into all these things know how does what we're doing the faet incl college going even before fast fast completions um how is the college matters work that we're undertaking with the Fairbank Foundation going right all of those things uh you know inform the next one and again it's just to say that we're not comfortable any longer just thinking about a um you know an end date but rather knowing at some point you start thinking about the slope of the curve and how much you do or do not influence it whether you can or can't do so any more effectively any just Aon knowes I love this stuff i' probably make him crazy with it um but it has already been a heavy lift he he is teasing so much here there are so many next step elements that all of us are eager to talk with you about there's a phrase I'm going to forget the statisti but it's F phrase that all models are wrong but some are useful and that I think is where we're trying to get through right even if it's wrong today it's useful as exercise to think about what are the inputs and the outputs you can improve so that's what I have for you today and there's a lot more like Chris mentioned now if there's any question I like forward to these indicators I I think I love how it's being tied together it it's just linking everything together so it's not just this goal or this topic or this project get and we we do we do have a list of of those potential indicators again it's just it's trying to make sure they really understand and before we put that out public I see commission being a frequent Li on that side other questions comments S I do okay thank you so much for your great work and great presentation thank you next we'd like to turn it over to uh Dr Stacy Townsley and David Hall to talk adult strategy and the Justice involved work um Stacy toley associate coun associate commissioner for adult strategy and David is director of adult strategy engagement so thank you to both of you and welcome I have my own pH to start off today you might you might be familiar with the phrase you can't turn a car until all the wheels are rolling I find this really a and very fitting for the work that the adult strategy team is doing as we're trying to move the needle on adults learning attainment and especially for those special populations that highlighted The Hope agenda of veterans and Military Affiliated individuals with disabilities and nested involved and so over the last couple of years our team has really been focused on establishing foundational infrastructure for this work you really def finding the policy Frameworks data collection strategies as Aon mentioned uh you know developing processes and playbooks and implementation guides and really establishing and strengthening stakeholder relationships that are so important for this work but I am pleased to share that in 2024 we've actually gotten the wheels rolling on all of our strategic initiatives and the top ones are listed on this slide and while we don't have yet student outcomes to share with you we do we have achieved some important Milestones that have received Kudos and encouraging comments from our the secondary partners and it led to some informal recognition that we are leading in a lot of these spaces both regionally and nationally so I'm quite encouraged with that this graph briefly highlight some of those milestones and the intentionality that we have in in creating overlap among these initiatives we continue to be in full-blown learning and experimenting and piloting mode um which is exciting to me at the top of this graph is credit for prior learning Sul of course it is foundational for the adult learner uh really honoring their the the college level learning that they're bringing based on work experiences and other other means outside of the traditional classroom we've approached the work of expanding the use and recognition of CPL across Indiana institutions in phases really relying on the support of large cross- sector task force and working groups to inform our effort and this year we met a big milestone with your support in March of 2024 we publish Indiana's first ever Statewide CPL model policy Guidance with the thought that this will help support Universal adoption towards consistency and expansion of credit for PR learning across all of our institutions um where do you begin with this word right so this that was in March over the rest of the year our current Focus have been on how do we start with implementation of military private requir learning and so we've been working with Consulting partners and others working group of several institutions of public and private to to start developing resources to support that implementation and those resources are the basis of what we're envisioning is this new iteration of a credit required learning CL Clearing House which is part of that Vision work that happened last year we're well on our way we're excited about that um second on this list as we think about the work we're doing to support veterans and Military and phili students is the Collegiate purple Star Award initiative um my colleague Steve presented on that earlier this year but that launched in April um again with the the assistance of a large task force um in 2023 the Collegiate purple star if you're not familiar it is a comprehensive set of ambitious standards for supporting veterans and Military students on campuses and with this work um we're we've been providing technical assistance and professional development to help institutions really put their best foot forward as we think about as we open the application process for this award in January of 2025 and those will be tiered recognitions um we're going to make it a big deal um really helping us move from military friendly to military ready and engaged um across across our state and then the for the individuals with disabilities population this is something we're really just now getting going um we the task force we started in September uh is nent we have two working groups one focus on access one focus on success and commission member Molly kitchell is shairing this task force we have several CH staff not only from adult strategy but also from our k12 and CTE teams supporting this work um it is scheduled to go through March of this coming year 2025 as this first iteration of work and we look forward to sharing with you more about what comes out of that um and for justice involved of course this the rest of our presentation is focused on this so I will into that so again Our Hope goal is to be a top 10 dat for postsecondary attainment and around Justice involved by 2030 I'd like to emphasize that my own learning about the broader Justice ecosystem has been sobering and hopeful and this word cloud that I created on the slide really points to many of the concepts and programs that I've had to learn that my team has had to learn related to the justice system to help us navigate all of these aspects that we have to keep in mind to in order to take productive next steps we started stakeholder conversation of last year including hearing from formerly incarcerated students about their challenges and opportunities in pursuing education and that really has led us to focus on um a strategic focus on existing and emerging stakeholder forms to really guide this work and that is different than the task force approach that we've taken with credit for prior learning with veterans and individuals with disabilities this is a a different approach but one that I think is is useful considering this complex ecosystem that we're learning about now David Hall joined our team in March of this year as our director for strategic engagement and he is spearheading that work and so with that I'd like to turn it over to David so that he can walk you through what we've been doing good morning everyone morning thank you for having me as we begin to kind of build foundationally upon this work and trying to work towards the goal we needed to know who are we actually trying to do this for so as we start off we want to make sure that everybody has a clear definition understanding of what and who a Justice involved individual is who actually are we talking to that so that is an individual or group of people who have had contact with Justice minist whether that be courts jails prison probation or drug courts also they may have been previously or currently confined as so that is who we're talking about we speak about Justice involve individual and some of the subing statistics that St we just spoke about were the fact that nearly 2 million Americans are currently incarcerated and 80 million Americans have a criminal record it's nearly one3 of the population incarcerated individuals in preincarceration pre-incarceration have um in their income is 54% less than those who are non incarcerated and have no experience with the Justice just over 50% of incarcerated people have a high school deplore equivalency and also from 2016 to 21 over 28,000 incarcerated students received help enrolling in the second chance Bill programs and more than 9,000 of those students ear the postsecondary credential as well so what we're trying to do is actually cataliz and capitalize on that very thing so we're going to talk about what some of those strategies have been what we've been able to find upon looking in getting in this space you want to make sure that what are we doing this for what is the benefit the benefit we can we can categorize these four areas lower race individuals enroled in education programs 48% less likely to get in trouble again um you like those numbers in increased employability rat to employment and post and post release increased by 12% as well from education program participation um shift in prison and jail culture from what we've been able to see from our visits Chris has also been with some of us on some of those visits and the conversations that we've had you can really see where students actually have an experience within the prison system and they don't want to lose those Privileges and so in that they make sure that Good Conduct something that they also practice on a work consistent basis and also increase social Mobility so in efforts for us to actually address this problem we built two communities of practice and for those who may not know communities of practice which is a word that's often times used consists of three areas a domain a community and the actual practice so the domain we have to understand why we're here what is the purpose why are we all convened want to make sure the students actually increases for the justice of law Community we want to make sure CommunityWide that it's not just us at the him we also want to make sure bar with the correct post secondary institutions as well as our government as well and also for the practice we'll get into that starting with our prison education programs are iPad effective on July 1 of 2023 p p grant funding eligibility expanded the El eligible students in pet programs so this is actually Nationwide thing that everybody experienced on behalf of p and so that started with Holy Cross College Indiana Tech Indiana West they were the participants within that the initial pet programs it then grew and so the US Department of Education actually shifted it to actually be under iboc and those of direct Department of cors so now they have taken that effort and actually housed it up under the department of Corrections and So within that we are now a partner after signing an mou last year with IDC to make sure that our IAD actually AR correctly going without and so what we've been able to see is the fact that none of the i programs that have been approved ever met met like you all do the same thing and you don't know who everybody is amazing so what we actually did was hall meeting we actually invited everybody to be friends so that's one of the big pillars that believe me getting everybody scheduled together as you all know being business close that is complicated but what we've been able to see is that there are my six approved iPad programs and same I'm Holy Cross college and they offer an associates and Bachelor um bachelor degree in arts Indiana West offers a business practice certificate Indiana Tech offers a business certificate as well um ivch actually offers the automated technology and a business administration certificate and also Mar university offers a liberal arts bachelors and Associates degrees and so as you can see each of these institutions is actually offering these programs at various Correctional imprisoning Facilities throughout the state and so commissioner Lowry actually had a chance to be a heot speaker at the women's college pris women's prison and so that was actually in partnership with Mar University um and so that that mentioning of July 24th being the first meeting that was very key and very pivotal our between our our partnership with I and the partnership of postsecondary Institutions we really got a chance to see what what colleges are offering and what are the intended outcomes what has been everybody's experience from that meeting we learned that there were faive completion errors and that barrier is something that we all like actively address but imagine having to complete your Vasa via P again like sty said earlier so and so for example through our second Comm meeting that we also just had we found out that nearly allly correct me if I'm wrong nearly all of the applicants for the FASA for the Indiana Tech program were denied because they had empty pages um and the pages were were not attached because they were empty so they didn't feel the need to attach those papers and send the F in because of that F rejected have Tex C so again and so now that is that many students that are not able to participate into the program so what we've been able to do for these convenience is not only be able to provide a field where everybody can get familiar with everybody else but also now what does it look like for the experience how can we help remove barriers and what are barriers and so that way we can start to build what best practices look like and how can we have effective Health to increase those numbers for the whole agenda and the IP Community as you can see is really focused on um making sure the high quality education programs are happening we want to make sure that we're enhancing re-entry experience and strengthening I operations from those convs so that is for the iPad piece and I wanted to highlight the ipep is the Indiana prison education experience and So within that within Justice involved we want to make sure that is one side the other side of those who experience jail it's not the same for those who may not know so as we approach the communities of practice again we go now to the other side the rein the Justice reinvestment advisory Council the jxs so the jxs are a function of the Indiana any on office of cour services and they're responsible for renewing policies promoting collaboration on State and County levels forwarding evidence based practices and best practices in community Alternatives Community Based Alternatives I'm exploring recidivism and reduction strategies and so the state JRA regularly meets and one thing I wanted to make sure that we highlighted about the J rxas there is a j r operating in every county in Indiana but there are 92 92 imagine trying to convene until 92 JRA what to do what that structure looks like and so what we've been able to kind of come along and do is I've been able to see that there needs to be some kind of structure so we've been able to help at the commission with attending State meetings and kind of seeing who El is at the table government agency wide and so we've been able to kind of categorize things through the social determinance of health and so as we look and see when we actually view a Justice involved individual we can view them according to the social determinance of health education access and Quality Healthcare access and quality um neighborhood and built environment social and Community context economic stability what we've been able to do is actually have conversations that get ready to possibly go live with the approval is to actually adapt this social determinance of Health recommendation and make sure that we now have state entities and also our business and Community entities that align in these certain areas and help them serve Justice involved individuals as they return back to society and so with us being the higher education commission we want to make sure that we are we're actually helping with the education access and equality so in terms of doing so we created the education attainment Temple so on this ramp system you can hop off of the ramp right or you can keep going so as we think about this ramp system it starts with high school high schoy diplomas I Tech actually offers geds throughout every throughout every prison system and actually in a lot of the counties within um Indiana as well so they're a primary player within that you then think about what training certifications look like and then go to Next Level job training that can go to those type of things they stay on the ramp student L you can then go on to actual r that's associate degre certificates going to r four which are bachor degrees and ultimately arriving at r five which is employment the purpose of why we're trying to do this for these individuals and So within that we want to make sure that the ramp is understood that anybody could hop off the ramp at any one time and try to arrive at number five because what we found from conversation that we've been able to see and off trans the data is that appointment and housing are the number one and two things sometimes 1 a 1B most important things that are considered when somebody's raring vac so we want to make sure that education on that map too so we've been able to really show and bring education to the Forefront of why it is important and why it could actually be beneficial for just individuals and so I thinking about some of these steps the next steps are actually J the presentation and piloting so we're actually trying to work with our colleagues on who are over the state jrex to find some of the operable jrex and some of the counties that we can actually roll this T out to and see how it works and also an implementation white paper that will be completed in December 2024 that I'm currently writing and also another iting that's planned for 2025 and hopefully we have better news for Indiana Tech as we try to help them some of their faster needs and things like that that completes the presentation any questions well first off wonderful presentation um I understand that this focuses on adult strategy but I recognize that this is a lot of reactive policy towards Justice involved individuals and I was going to ask about proactive efforts for children to Justice involved parents so how what kind of things we can do if we're focusing on geographical regions socioeconomic class and high crime areas in Indiana how are we focusing on the children's Injustice involved parents and also kind of ending that life about having education be more readily available so that's a great question so actually in one of my most recent meetings with my col Chris who was actually always sa we want to make sure that they adapt this not only for us when viewing adults but also what it views for children and so both of those populations in the demographics we have different needs and thus call for different Partnerships so for those right now we are focused on adults but they definitely have adapted this thing the need to adapt it different for juvenile for what that looks like so absolutely so what that means for you know point to the Foster here because a lot of fost Youth are also you know incarcerated tend to be incarcerated go into whatever that may be for domestics and things like that so Mental Health Resources made look different those types of things and so I know that Chris and his team actually adapted this kind of twofold approach look at adult D nice presentation um have you heard of the Jump program in delare County I have line with this the same it does and so with it so we've been actually Delaware County and also um Madison are two of the more active counties that we've actually seen and also Sellersburg is an active way as well so we're actually looking at what those counties are actually doing and also their J some of their JS are actually acting as well so we're looking at try to work to get those things together currently MH okay thank you m ahead thank you for the presentation if you i' like to go one of those visits time goes to to the 80 million this is just more a question of Consciousness great programs great involvements in this entire ecosystem my mind is thinking about people violating the consciousness the aftermath for them and how we're doing is there any resources for them I see and again this is commendable I'd like to see more of it done but yeah my mind is to if someone was shot there's been some fatality someone has been raped but what what what is there that just says yeah we're doing this but there's this there's this awareness this cogn and this cogn is helping us not from or actually helping us me and all that makes sense around this the great that you all doing yeah sorry actually consideration with um in sending some of the states meetings I'm looking around to actually see who else is there I know I represent the commission for higher education like when I attend the meetings but what other government agencies that are Statewide or entities that are Statewide are actually there at to take Department of Mental Health is and so I believe what was missing at the time was a call to action they're at the table but maybe don't know what to do so some of those strategies may not have been built I would hope that this strategy approaching social deter of Health would actually be kind of a catalyst to see what actually could be done from their approach to actually see what mental health experiences really look like for just involved individuals so as we're thinking about many probation as opposed to hey come in do your drops or come in and actually check in make sure you're doing okay have you been to class let's see some grades or have you been to your counselor later how you attend meetings can they vouch for you that's networking as commity as well what's your aspects of the T so it's kind of a twofold approach that we could actually be sustaining and actually completing multiple aspects of this and approaching multiple aspects seeing who's at the table and more of a leveraging talent so C actually from that thank you did I miss an explanation around any Services that's given for the people who have been the victims of crime for the victims no start you did not miss anything we have not gotten that far yet okay so that's actually something that um during our last meeting and I had a off off conversation with one of our um postsecondary colleagues that was an area of possible growth and addressing the future on your on your National stamp shots on the last bullet you said more than 9,000 students had completed postsecondary credentials that Indiana so no that was that was National so that was on the initial roll out so that was from 2015 2016 that was when everything was still being poed from from Second Chance fail okay do you happen to have the numbers for Indiana yes so that actually so one of the things and I apologize here into Brook I truly apologize one of the main things that we've been able to do also is make sure the data is strengthened some of the numbers that we've been able to find previously um our partners at IDLC have questions us on like where did you put these numbers because we don't know where these numbers came from so that's actually one thing we're actually working to um adjust and actually gather up right now it's actually like accurate snapshot numbers for what that looks like in totality for the nation also totality for Indiana that as a follow down when you get that to have that for Indiana and and I'm a particular interest because as we think about the Hope agenda and we think about Workforce Development this has been an area a population that many economists have said this is where we need to focus to make sure we have uh people to meet the jobs job in and so that's why I'm curious about this how many are getting educated here in Indiana and then they we're linking Workforce Development because I think that's a key initiative and I didn't see that linkage or GDP specifically for indana in in in here so you may want as a followup about that because I think that's going to be a critical thing and very important for us and I would also add so that um there have been some hesitancies in if you will around releasing certain data as well because not everybody has the same view for educating justce involved individuals and education on beh of that community so some people may ask why are dollars you know going over there where some may be in support of it so sometimes so there are some enenes that we partner with that are hesitant to release certain information so we're trying to figure out with the bi team um what that looks like in terms of what information could even be captured and what what's comforable being shared as well that's been another kind of barrier and halt for while we've been able to like make progress on well if they would listen to The Economist that change their mind but you may want to look at the Council on criminal justice and see where they're doing and there's a an economist there that really adamant about this and talk about it did just say uh question and maybe um get thoughts on this as we work through the elig eligibility reinstatement and kind get that screenline um do you believe that um more programs will have natural BU as far as you look at this and I thought the six institutions that are that are doing this work um but just knowing this population um and leaving the system withal arts or um Associates Associates in General Studies um you know the pathway towards you know really reducing recidivism is through employment and you want to make sure folks are prepared for employment and um you know pathway towards jobs they're just just wondering you know Indiana you unfortunately nationally we invest very little uh and helping individual from an educational standpoint so just wondering if if through this P if you'll see that improve and then also your thoughts on what what we do offer um our individuals that F justice system preparing them for release through education yeah one of the um expectations in the application process to become a p on behalf of institution is actually have a formalized plan in place for what it looks like at the end of the program in terms of job Readiness so that's an expectation so they have to so that is not only vetted by IB but that's also vetted by the US Department of Education as well so they have to have a form L plan in class that's kind of like for career riness and job preparation as well so that's one aspect and I would say that the other is the higher program and that is a Statewide initiative as well so the high they have a h program upon release from the institution too so that is the kind of two or three day imers program where they help build resumes and help go through job interviews and all those job ready skills as well so that in terms of preparation County to both from that side from the Prison Correctional Facility side um from the jail side we have not yeah we have not been preing to more like what that preparation anything like that looks like which is kind of where we're trying to come in really think about what that looks like from the education attainment template and then thinking about where can job read career read fit within that as well yeah Stacy and great presentation I would like to pull a thread on a couple of things were commented thought my commission members um yeah really thinking about the numbers for our state it's really critically important know that you might you might mentioned I had to leave the room for a few moments but you can correct me if I'm wrong I think there are 22,000 individuals incarcerated currently in our state prion not close and if I'm right I think 90% of those are men um so that leads me all EX um you know some of the comments M plan has had to offer and starting with I think one of the most compelling in that is the consciousness of why we do this um the I think you all know I love quantitative data um but a quality of element comes into play here too the benefits of education so I love that you the two of you know that the lower you know lower rate of recidivism um wow talking about something that you can trans very easily to return on investment right when we can send someone to one of our universities or colleges for less than we can Warehouse in in a building um that says something to me and that that of course is really on the triage in of it frankly uh but how we start identifying much earlier that we're talked about this body for that we can that when we can identify that n who is unable to read or a 12-year-old who's unable to do math and start predicting the likelihood of their incarceration that doesn't strike our Consciousness I don't know does um and so I appreciate those comments because those go beyond even you know the LA of David here um dve thanks for having invited me I've been in a variety of the prisons over s years now including as I was with I and two of you may called this on one of our visits when we got to speak a number of of women at the women's prison on the west side of Indianapolis um there were two words that came up more than any that was hope and purpose there's qualitative side of it conscious the Consciousness side of why this this work is so important I'm just so grateful you all you rais these things um but we we've got work and we are going to put these numbers up and we're not going to quit talking about because um you know whether we make it from um you know the return investment side is the numbers are absolutely 100% there uh you know from that side of the state look at the workforce side some you mention by the way I think one of the best uh training education programs going it's what I Tech does uh it's not really captured here it's captured a little bit but with the certificates technical certificates and Industry certification um most of you probably haven't been you get a chance to go women's prison in Madison and seeing women completing certificates of certified production technician certificates from mssc or the duty areas of Ms and host of other they are employed at the minute they're available um so all of those things I think remain just um yeah all of you sparked my thoughts on this I'm so glad that this commission has so whole heartedly endorsed this world um it it's it's just good for individuals uh let us think at the Consciousness level um it it is certainly helpful to our employers who are just begging for great Talent every day and it strengthens the communities as our princi prod reminded us today it'll just make our state a better State sorry for the opining there Mr CH but listening to all of you I just want to say thank you because this is really important work and I'm grateful you embrace it again um commission member Kel thank you for chairing and helping us lead part of this work so thank you and thank okay just one one last comment so our our partner in Inc has offered uh to see Chief staff to go through a