Is it ready? >> Chair notes a quorum for the Indiana Board for Proprietary Education's uh Q1 meeting of 2026. Thank you all for being here. We'll do a roll call. >> Mrs. Dan Shane,
>> present. >> Mr. Ken Kesco, >> here. >> Mr. Scott Boie, >> present. >> Mr. Michael Nasa present and chair notes and she is here as well.
Why don't we uh consider the minutes first for the December 1st, 2025 meeting before I uh give the reports know if all of you had a chance to uh review the minutes. Uh all of us were uh in attendance albe it uh whether in person
or virtually. >> Motion to approve. We have a second. >> We take the minutes by consent consent. I don't know if uh many of you were following legislative session um but there was a a omnibus boards and
commissions bill uh house enrolled act 103 u it was quite quite large and it was the outgrowth of both the administration and the house republican caucus reviewing boards and commissions across
state government. Uh BPE was one of the boards addressed and uh I'll let maybe Michael chime in to give some more insight or on how the mechanics would work, but the board will be repealed effectively July 1st, 2027
with all of the duties and responsibilities and administrative rules and processes transferring to the commission. So none of what we're doing here per se is going away. uh the functions will remain u we will
work through in the coming months in preparation for that that next effective date July 1st 2027 on what that will look like and how that will be implemented and we'll keep everyone apprised of that um so um as board members uh you're the days are counting
down on how many meetings you have left uh but I wanted to provide that update off the the very beginning um things were very fluid with that bill and changing, but we didn't think it was, you know, worth bringing up until it was the ink was actually dry.
Mr. Nos, do you have any further insights? >> That sums it up well. Just know that the the Secretary of Education was not u pushing that by any means. Really appreciate uh the work that has been going on here for the past several years. um come July 1st, I think you and Ross
would be a lot busier uh taking over for for the the wisdom of the uh of the board. So, um we'll see what the mechanics look like uh going forward, but yeah, we've got another year and a half before that all takes place. >> Got some time. Yeah, it was not in the
ASPOT version of the bill. That's right. It was an amendment that came out later on. >> Does anyone have any questions? Yeah, just in curiosity, um, does that mean that obviously I understand that what
what what was stated already, but bottom line, who's going to oversee then the uh sectors that we've been overseeing over all these years? Or maybe I'm misinterpreting what I heard you say. >> That's a Yeah, that's a good question, Ken. The commission will assume all of
the duties and responsibilities. >> Okay. >> So, obviously from the staff level, nothing really changes per se. We've got uh Ross here and myself and then other >> other colleagues as necessary.
>> Um when it how it comes to um sort of a board approval, a commission approval process that is something we will work out. But this sector will certainly be uh subject to statutory approvals, reviews,
uh authorizations uh that everyone is used to. I we will circulate that bill language. We'll we'll extract the relevant pages and we will circulate that with the board after after today's meeting. So you can see pretty much when you go
through state Indiana code where it says board for proprietary exec education it's there's a strike through and it replaces it with commission uh of higher for higher education effective >> July 1st 2027. >> Very good. Yeah,
>> very good question and good to clarify. >> Well, on that that's all I have. >> All right. Uh we have four uh decision items today. Four degree programs all in the healthc care space. Um our first one
is a diploma in practical nursing from Victory Training from Hobart, Indiana. also know that all of them are from Northwest Indiana as well. Um going to bring the institutional representatives to the table and please introduce yourselves.
>> Welcome. >> Dr. Beard, if you'd like to start with this introduction. >> Thank you. Good morning. My name is Dr. Beard. I'm a nurse for 20 years. I'm a proud resident of Northwest Indiana. We are here before you all to appeal and to
receive approval for our LBN program. Excuse me. Um, we're looking to add it to the region. Oh, yes. Okay. >> Miss Westbrook, you want to introduce yourself? >> Hi. Yes. Ayana Westbrook. I'm looking I'm one of the directors uh with Victory
and with this LPN program looking to be the director of student success. >> Okay. So, Victory Training uh began in 2015 with Indiana State Board of Health approval. Um then they were granted the Office for Career and Technical Schools
approval in 2023. Um and then in 2025 December of last year, they were granted PPE authorization. So with the nursing um it was moved from OCTS to PPE. Um it
is a for-profit institution. Um they are currently offering u began with certified nursing assistant program. Um they submitted a timeline for accreditation with the accrediting commission for education in nursing as
um they be eligible for an application in November 2026. uh and they have candidacy status and this would be a two-year timeline. Um they do not currently participate in NC SAR the state author authorization
reciprocity agreement. Uh they're not title 4 uh federal stateuh federal student aid and they're not state financial aid um available currently yet. uh they do have eligibility for next level uh jobs workforce development
uh grant wea and um currently since they are not title 4 uh they don't submit enrollment figures to NCES uh however they did provide enrollment figures so the very latest they had 60 students in November of 2025
um currently they're offering two programs the clinical medical assistant program and the phabbotomy technician program and there's also photographs of their labs um at your place settings. There's I think there's nine photographs. So, they're here today
before us with the diploma in nursing program to be offered at Hobart and you'd begin with adults. Uh but it would be at the high school city of Hobart High School. Okay. >> Yes, sir. >> Uh be 47 quarter credit hours with 85% of the courses in the specialty. They
submitted 10 faculty uh IQRs instructor qualification records. Four of the 10 would be part-time, six full-time. They would have one ASN graduate, uh three with a BSN, five with the MSN, and then
Dr. Beard nurse practitioner. Um and then the reason that the staff report says none is because at the time of printing, they had just submitted a clinical site agreement with Edgewire. uh that the staff recommendation is for
approval. >> Thank you, Mr. Miller. Um if I I could ask a question. There's a positive trend uh the enrollment increasing from 36 in 2022 up to 60 uh this past November, but where's the bulk of that or is it pretty well spread
across your two programs? It's pretty rare spread mostly with our mostly with CCMA. >> Okay. >> And our pass rate is 100%. Both programs we're at 100%. >> Just to go to go along with that, Scott,
just curious what caused that uh you know that's significant from 40 to 60 obviously percentage wise and what precipitated that additional advertising? um uh I don't know other you know other funding for the students
just just give us a a quick I you know a quick response as to what caused that if you could please. >> Thank you. It was foot traffic. I got in my car and I started going to the local nursing homes to advertise. So it was of course advertising but the method we
used we got off of social media. >> Okay. So you did a you did a better job yourself than social media. Yes, I noticed that. I don't know how you use social media, so I was lost when everything shifted. >> Well, thank you on that response.
>> So, when you went to the nursing homes, were you trying to recruit some of their workers or Okay, >> that was that was the goal. Who wanted some of their employees? You want them to sponsor some of their employees? Um I have a question and may maybe I
missed this but have our um accountants taking a look at uh the financials for victory training just because there is no F FRCS and if so what was their thought and if they haven't then it might be a good idea to do a quick
review. Yeah, they did an um Miss Shane, they did do a audit of the financials that were submitted. I don't have can't recall what the composite score is off the top of my head, but they financials were fine.
>> Okay. Just >> December meeting. >> Yeah. And then call >> plant is not on the call. No. >> Okay. But they did look at the financials
before the December meeting when they granted institutional authorization. >> Yeah. Good. Um, no, I was asking if Tony were on the call just to give her wisdom about any of the nursing issues.
>> I will admit, Miss Shane, that we have some concern about the clinical sites. Um, we have one that appears to have just an APRN as a provider, which is statutoily not allowed. Um, a lot of these look like outpatient sites and so
we're concerned about getting inpatient care, which is where most of these graduates will find employment. But it's my understanding, my feeling that this board does not have jurisdictional authority
to go ahead and prevent you the program from opening. That will come to the board of nursing and we'll handle those issues there. >> Yeah. One of the things that nursing has relied on machine is the financial health of the organization and we've
been very grateful for that. Nursing does not have the bandwidth to be able to do that and I appreciate plant man's um evaluation and their recommendations on the uh program. Yeah. And all that seems to be in order, their increased enrollment, their good
financial score, their past history. Um, and do we have any data on their students and their pass rates for the certifications that they're seeking in their field in which they got a degree?
>> They did present that in December. Um, don't have it on this agenda, but would you like to speak to that? Yes, we have a 100% pass rate for CCMA medical assistant and also 100% pass rate for um phabbotomy and that's with the national
healthc care association NHA which is the gold standard for those two programs. Do you do you keep a ret I'm sorry. Go ahead. >> No, I was gonna say that's fantastic. >> Yeah.
>> Do do you keep a a retention rate >> uh via Now you're not on a quarter basis. I understand that you were you're on a clock hour basis, but do you track your retention on a specific period of time? >> We track it for the year. Um, that's one
of the ways that we make our money, just being honest with you, by the students actually completing the program. And so, right now, we're at 100% retention rate. >> Keep it up. >> That's great. Okay, I'm ready to call the question
unless anybody's got any other >> Yeah, I I just just This is just me. Um on page 15, I not let me get to my let me get to my >> uh if I can hold on. You you you just a
number popped up to me on page 15 where it said the number of professional per periodicals subscribed to is a thousand. Now, I'm not sure if that's a typo or if that's correct. >> I believe that is correct. That's what the school city of Fulbert were. We're
using their library. >> Oh, okay. >> Most of most of the programs now, Mr. Kesco, are using online references. >> So, when we do the site visit, I don't see the libraries I used to. These are usually all online resources. >> Right. Okay. Well, again, I uh it just
hit me. So, uh, just thought I'd bring it up. But thank you. >> Yeah, Ken, I would imagine it's a subscription that include that bundles obviously hundreds of periodicals and professional journals and it totals up to a thousand.
>> Okay. Again, just uh just curious. >> And on 20 again, just maybe micromanaging here and I shouldn't, but I am. The uh records are kept in just regular cabinets. Uh, I know when I was commissioner with ACICS, we required
fireproof cabinets. Uh, maybe that's not required by your accrediting body, whomever that is right now. Just curious. >> You have digital records also as well. >> We have a few. Yes. >> Okay. >> Not a few, but we have digital records. Sorry.
>> Are you keeping the transcripts in digital format? >> Yes. >> Okay. Any further questions, comments from the board? Before we go on, I'd like to provide just one one uh stipulation. Um if
granted BPE, pending BP approval uh that you'd submit a letter uh for a site visit, not before 90 days from the approval date of BP. So 90 days from now if you're approved. >> Okay.
But that will be June. Am I thinking about it correct? >> I'm not good enough with that, but >> it's okay. >> Sounds great. >> I think you do. >> That way it just gives you 90 days to review what you put together and then prepare your uh petition to the board to open.
>> Okay. So, make sure I'm I apologize. So, you'd submit your letter of request, but then if you could submit a letter to BPE stating you would request a site visit from the state board of nursing 90 days from today.
Is that correct? Yeah. Okay. >> Is it not later than 90 days or no sooner? No sooner. know sooners and you'll Mr. Miller spell this out in the letter. >> Yes. Any further stipulations or staff comments?
>> Yeah. >> Do I have a motion to approve the degree program as presented with the stipulation presented by Mr. Miller? Well, >> would be diploma though, correct? >> Yes, it's a diploma program.
Uh I move to approve practical nursing. >> I'll second. >> Chair will take the role. Mrs. Anne Shane >> I. >> Mr. Ken Kanesco.
>> I >> Mr. Scott Boen. >> I >> Mr. Michael Nsett >> I. No chair voting I so much. Congratulations. >> I hear the work you're doing. >> Thank you. Can I ask one question? I'm
sorry. >> Oh, certainly. >> I'm trying to calm down, but getting still excited. Um, >> just to make sure I'm clear. >> I can now submit. >> You can reach out to me online. >> Okay. No. Okay. Can I ask one quick question, please? Can I submit my letter of intent now? Is that okay? That's my
only question. Thank you. Have a great day. Good luck. Thank you. Thank you. >> Our next action items are all from one institution, three degree programs from Stellar Career College. Thank you, Tony. but ask those representatives to join us
and then also I believe have h have your colleagues joining us virtually as well. >> Yeah. Okay. I'll just go ahead and um tell the board. So virtually we have uh Dr. Si uh president of Stellar Care
College uh Dr. Sadiki uh lead instructor for vascular synography uh technologist program and then we have Miss Marx director of uh diagnostic medical synography and then if you all like to uh introduce yourselves
>> morning everyone I director of HR student we're glad to have you and thank you for this opportunity we appreciate it. Good morning everyone. First of all, thank you folks for all of you application making us here. My name is Arif Khan. I'm the director of
compliance and ID services of St. >> Good morning. Um my name is John Pasante. I'm a medical doctor and the director of academic affairs and distance education is convention. >> Okay. Thank you.
>> Uh well I already virtual Dr. Si you're on correct? Yes. >> Would you like to just briefly say hello? >> Yeah. Good morning everyone. Uh my name is Dr. Zurfikar Sati. Uh and we are glad
to be here and we appreciate the the work the board has put in to review our application and and we are we are eager to hear from the the board about uh any questions they may have.
Okay. And then Dr. Sadiki, you're muted >> stepped away. >> Okay, let me go ahead and go ahead and begin. >> Okay. >> Oh, go ahead. Sorry. >> Morning. >> Yeah. Good morning. My name is Dr. Samina Siddiki. I am with the Stella
Career College um uh instructing uh the students from uh the vascular program of uh diagnostic imaging. >> Okay, thank you. Okay, so Stellar Career
College began in Modesa, California um under a different name, computer tutor in 1986. So it does have a long history. Um they began then offering allied health and business programs and the name was changed to computer tutor
business and technical institute and then later uh under the current name. Um they do have a location in Chicago and uh they're here before us because they have a location in Crown Point, Indiana
which was approved in March of 2022. Um they are accredited through the accrediting commission of career of career schools and colleges ACCSC. Um their Modesto um California location
was reaffirmed for accreditation in March 2018 uh Chicago uh in September 2021 and then their Crown Point location in August 2025. Uh students uh are able to are eligible
to receive title 4 um by attending Stellar Curry College and they do uh currently participate Indiana state financial aid and GI benefits. Um they the Modesto California is still
considered the main location. Chicago and Crown Point are branches as considered by ACCSC. Um, NCES reported 81 students at the Crown Point location in the fall of 2024
and 83 at the Chicago campus and 46 at the Modesto C uh campus. Uh the Crown Point location offers programs at the associate and diploma levels um and AAS and diagnostic medical synography,
magnetic resonance, imaging technology, uh radologic technology. Um and then they're approved for the AES in information systems and cyber security management and logistic warehousing and supply chain management. I believe those were the last two that
were approved. Um then the Chicago campus is approved for diploma programs and the California campus is approved for certificate diploma and associate programs. The composite score um the very latest one was from December 31st
2025 from the audited financials 2.2 and the previous year a 1.5 composite score 1.5 is considered financially stable. So they're here before us today with three different associate of applied science degree programs.
Uh the cardiac synography program uh to be offered in blended format at ground point and distance ed. That program is 96 quarter credit hours with 75 75% of the courses in the specialty. They've submitted nine faculty members, two
full-time, seven part-time, one with a BS, four with a masters, three doctoral. um and one uh MD medical doctor. The second program is the surgical technology also in blended delivery
format which would be 104 quarter credit hours with 7 75% of the courses in the specialty. They submitted 11 faculty members for that program. two full-time, nine part-time, one with a BSN, uh three with a master's, four doctoral
instructors, and then three with a medical degree. And then finally, we have the vascular synography technology program, which is 96 quarter credit hours with 75% of the courses in the specialty. Uh for that program, they
submitted 10 faculty IQRs. uh eight part-time and two would be full-time, one with BS, two with a masters, four with the doctoral uh degree, and then three with a medical degree. And the staff recommendation is for
approval of all three associate applied science degree programs. >> Thank you, Mr. Miller, for the staff recommendation and overview. the the representatives of the institution, would you like to speak on
um the the whole package of degrees or specific ones and then we can turn it over to uh board questions and comments? >> Yeah. Uh so we started offering programs back in uh 2020
I believe. So we gradually increased initially we had three. >> Could you talk just a little bit louder? I think Ken's having time hearing. >> Yeah. Initially we had three degree programs that we were offering in all allied health and one in u information systems and one in logistics. Uh so we
see uh a trend uh in employment rates and uh uh growth in other three programs that we proposed and that's the reason we wanted to include those programs to benefit students. So do you have similar programs at your other two campuses that you
>> uh we have allied programs in um Chicago crown pine but those are diploma uh those are uh uh and similar programs we have in vascular we have in echo and we do have in surgical as well. >> Okay. >> So those are diploma and this uh degrees
that we are having is in compound right now. >> Okay. Could you speak to your uh your success rate your graduation rate? >> Sure. Yeah. Uh so as an accredited school we have to report these uh items in the grading every single period. Uh
so we are glad to inform you that uh this last trading period we showed uh a good percentage uh so this three programs that we have right now the vascular was recently approved so we don't have an annual report for that as well but for surgical we have a
graduation period about about um I think 70 to 80%. And for echo uh it's a bit more. I think it's 85 to 90% around that. I don't have the exact uh percentage in my head but that's the percentage.
>> Those are the graduation rates or the passage. >> Uh those are the graduation rate and the pass rates. Uh we do have uh I think about 96% for both of those programs. >> Dr. Sadiki, would you like to speak
about uh the program that you'll be the head of? >> Yeah, sure. Um um I'll be instructing the students uh for the vascular technology uh program.
Um and it will include the uh lectures as well as the lab. Um just uh preparing um uh the students about uh the basic anatomy, physiology,
pathology as well as the scanning uh uh skills which we they need uh in the job work. Dr. Would you like to go ahead and speak? We need to give you an opportunity. >> Yes. >> Yes.
>> Um thank you for the opportunity and uh thank you for having us here to um share with you some of the progress that we are doing at Stella Cararia College. Um, having joined Stalakaria College not long time ago, I've noticed that uh we have really an incredible mix of
students. We have a couple of students from literally every background of life. Um and it's a mix of students who really benefit from u the fact that we are offering these courses near downtown Chicago uh and having an access to
different hospitals and uh clinical settings that can help them achieve this. At uh our Chicago campus where I spend most of my time, we have plenty of resources to assist students and we are extending this to the Indiana campus as
well where we have open labs to assist students. For example, uh these ones in surgical tech to learn about how to work with the different instruments. We have sets literally for every surgical procedure there is. Uh we also have uh
for those who are going to do uh VST uh which is uh vicular we have plenty of uh machines uh in Chicago and we also have tutors that come in and students can make appointments on when to come in and do scanning in case they are lagging
behind. we help them out and um as the academic affairs department we try to track all our students so that we don't wait for them at the end of the period when they're failing. So from the moment they enroll we have uh um the uh the
admissions department tracking their attendances in class and once they if they miss any class we receive a notification that this student has not been able to attend and because attendance contributes to their pass that comes to our to my office and I
look through it assess which challenges these students are having and once we notice the challenges whether it's transport or they can go to their externship site we have different programs where we are giving giving them free bus passes just to enable them at least soften their lives so that they
can be able to um achieve their academic success. At the same time um because we are open literally from Monday to Saturday uh from morning to evening even if students come in mostly for evening lectures we are open to
having them come in and uh uh for the echo and VST students they just sign up uh uh their names to do the open labs they can sign with they can scan each other they can scan with an instructor. So we have all these open opportunities
for students to learn at literally any time plus the um as you've read through here we have also um uh uh libraries we've signed up for which are online to assist students get the best of academic success and we don't let our students
fail uh at the end and tell them you failed. We try to give them assistance continuously until um they finish um every quarter. Yes. What is your retention rate for your other programs you're offering? >> I I don't have that. I don't know
because >> Zach or SI would you like to speak to that? You're uh muted. >> Yes. Yes. So I'm I I just pulled in. So we are a ACCSC accredited college and we are held accountable on our performance.
Our performance is measured in hardcore numbers. Number one is graduation rate. Number two is exam pass rate for lenture exams and number three is placement rate. The programs we currently offer there is no required lensure. These are
certification. Therefore we report our graduation rates and our placement rates. Placement means that there they find work in the field or related field in which we train them. So looking so every October first week we submit our
annual report the most recent report that we submitted uh I have the exact numbers that those were submitted uh so for example for medical assisting the graduation benchmark which is set by the ACCSC was
55% we were at 68% in graduation rate and 90% placement rate in surgical ical technology the benchmark for the graduation was 50% we
were on 58% and the placement rate for all programs benchmark is 70% we were on 82%. For echo the benchmark for graduation is 47 while we were on 67 and our placement
was 80%. uh diagnostic medical synography the benchmark was 47% and we were 87% in graduation rate and we were 90% in placement rate in radiology uh the
benchmark for graduation is 43% and our our graduation rate was 91% and placement 85%. For magnetic resonance imaging, the benchmark for graduation was 43%.
We were on 61% and our placement was 86%. So this way last year uh we met 100% of the benchmarks set by our accrediting body. >> Thank you. Thank you. Well, I mostly
deal with AK on a daily basis. Would you like to speak AK? and you're currently working on your PhD. >> Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Trying to become a doctor with gas. >> So, we like to thank you for this opportunity and to add what my
colleagues and Dr. Kadat mentioned, we also want to help the state of Indiana improve in terms of the hope agenda. We want to have greater credentials to hers and other residents in Midwest Midwestern central region. So we're
hoping that uh Stellar Care College will be an instrument that will able to provide careers aid especially in the healthcare sector so that individuals regardless of color, regardless of race or regardless of economic status has an
opportunity to have a better job and contribute state. Thank you. Any questions or comments from board members? >> Yeah, this is uh Ken Kesco. Um I'm I'm
just trying to get a feel of the institution as we identifi was identified was started as computer tutor in ' 86 and then it's transformed with various names to where it's you know current
name is stellar career college throughout that growth or is the ownership has the ownership been the same from the con in 1986 as computer tutor to where it is today as a stellar career college. The
ownership. >> Yes sir, >> please. >> So the ownership there was a transition. So actually the in ' 80s uh there was a person in Modesto. she was uh a mathematics teacher and she found out
that you know that there is a need for people in in that rural sector where they don't have access to any help academically struggling students. So she started a very small institution called a computer tutor and uh
and then then after I I believe after 10 years George Raw took over uh and he added some business courses and he was also the math teacher and his wife was also a teacher I believe in English and
they were uh they added some business programs and they got the pro school accredited in 2003. three. So this institution has accreditation history from from 2003 under >> and that was with the ACCSC correct 2003. Yeah. Thank you.
>> Yes sir. And uh and then George Raw uh continued on until until the uh August of 2017 when he wanted to retire and that's where I I took over uh the institution. So there was a change of
ownership then in 2017 where you took over. >> Correct. So the current ownership which is Stellar Career College LLC uh >> and were you accredited by ACC uh excuse me ACCSC? Yes. Uh in 2017 and that
change of ownership was approved by that accrediting body. >> Yes sir. Yeah. So we have to go through the entire process with BPP and then we went through ACCSC and same accreditation continued on with a different ownership.
>> Right now it it says here that in 2003 for a period of five years uh that ACC granted you a a period of five years. Uh is that correct? Is that how I read the report?
>> Yes. So >> yeah, the accreditation >> go ahead go ahead. >> But I but I was saying then then the the Modesto campus accredititation was reaffirmed reaffirmed in March of 2018. Um so what happened between
200 and and uh well 358 2008 to 2018. Were you were you fully accredited or were you still on a candidate status? >> Uh sir from 2003 onwards the the institution remain fully accredited. So
there was uh in 2003 they got five years. So ACCSC maximum award is five years. >> Right. Correct. >> Then they got another again reacreditited in 2013. And then when I took over in 2017, they
were in the reacredititation cycle. So actually I was the one along with the staff member, we went down to LA and the first step is accreditation training. >> But you answered again I I just didn't see any accredititation in the report from that period of time and I was just wondering you know who was overseeing
you but you've just answered that question but thank you for that. >> Yes. >> Okay. And then just curious again, how is it that in California in all that time and what what uh what caused you to move from a few miles away from
California to Chicago? >> And I realized please I realize that that still is the main campus and you know the two campuses in Illinois are branch campuses but still that's a long distance. Just curious. >> Yeah, very correct. So I was uh was a
president of a college in Chicago from 2004 until 2016 and in 2016 I retired >> and then some sequence of events I took over this college in 2017 uh in in California. uh it was such a
nicely uh situated in sense of uh placement in terms of its its relation with ACCSC and I got the opportunity through someone I knew and they said this college has all the pieces in place for the growth. So I took over and I
lived all my US life in Chicago. So my family >> we we we thought we going to move to California. We heard lot of good things. There are gardens and orchards and this and that. But once we visited, we said we're not going to leave Chicago. So
we somehow we like we like this cold and slow. >> So so we went to ACCSC and we we asked them that can we open up a campus in Chicago and they said that this is almost half of the other side of the
country. Why can't you open in Arizona or something? I said that's not the point. Somehow I was able to convince them that I was very successful in helping uh students in Chicago >> in different programs and I can I can
perform that all and I shared all my performance from the previous college I had >> and they they were eventually agreed and I opened the campus in Chicago and then we expanded to Crown Point, Indiana. >> Right. Right. and and and the uh
population in Modesto I believe is is at 46 currently is that what I understood and from the report yes sir so so Modesto is a very small town it's it's limited population there's a limited job opportunities
so so we uh because whenever we start a program or we enroll students we we look at the end game that eventually we have to place these students these graduates to remain accredited. Therefore we we we
go very slow and initially I thought because I had this MRI program ultrasound in my previous school I had experience but then when we researched we we found out that in in the 10 mile radius or even 20 mile radius of Modesto
campus there may be two MRI machine where we place these students right >> so therefore we said that we're not going to add these long-term programs instead we will just have this for example we have a veterary assistant program in Modesto because that makes
sense in Modesto. We don't have that in Chicago or Crown Point, right? >> So we we study the market. We study the end end result that eventually we will be accountable on on on placement of these grads, >> right? >> So therefore we have a very small
operation and unfortunately from the department of education, it's not easy to change the main campus. There is a lot of process involved. Do do you foresee that in the future though? >> Yeah I yeah I wanted to have a crown point as our main campus because our
degree our major degree programs are in crown point Indiana. Uh we will look through that but but there is no easy switch in department of education. I was told that you may lose financial aid for two years because the branch has to serve as a main campus for two years. So
we are looking into different options but eventually our main campus will be at at a place where which represents what we do. >> Okay. Very good. Well, thank you for that. Uh I didn't mean to be uh expressing a long conversation on that
but very helpful and I thank you for that. >> You're good context. Thank you for the the history of the institution. I have a question on the um the cardiac synography. It lists two different certifications which I know is quite
common when you can look at look at these professions. Is there one of the two? This is on page 43 of the binder and it's the program objectives for the first degree program. there's an option for um registered diagnostic cardio cardiac
synography or shorter registered cardiac synographer. Is one of those more common or expected in Northwest Indiana and and do you advise students on which way they should go when it comes to those or maybe they take both? It sounds like it's an or
>> the most common right now is the CCI. Okay. >> And it's like the first entry level. after reaching CCI you can go higher with your just based on our statistics and our experience offering those
>> does that result in higher pay or higher um employment rates >> it depends on the employer basically they uh they prefer some students to have CCI they prefer some students to have ARDMS but most of the employer uh initially they start with CCI
And if they want to increase or their knowledge skills and certification skills even they go for GMS. >> Thank you. >> You know one other question I forgot to ask your your modality of mode of of
education. Uh you're you're pretty much online or I know you have blended and I know you have hybrid obviously the same and then you have residential. Where are you at in those three particular areas or method of
instruction more online than you have >> residential? So all the technical courses uh that we offer uh the lab component are on campus and mostly the genets and electives we
offer them uh online completely and some of our technical courses which involves theoretical expertise though sometimes we have them in hybrid sessions we they come on campus and some online.
I would also like to add that uh although we have the option to offer you know theoretical courses uh virtually and lab courses on campus. However, we through the experience we we figured
that the the courses where where there is a complexity involved especially for example in MRI physics is a very advanced application of physics magnetic physics in the health sciences. So it's
not easy to comprehend those uh the complex magnetic physics concepts which are applied to generate the image. uh in a virtual environment so to speak. So therefore even though you can teach MRI
physics virtually we conduct such classes on campus where you have a intense attention of the of the students and similarly in all of these specialties there is a there is a one course or couple of courses in physics.
For example in ultrasound we have sound physics in radiology we have radiation physics. So these courses are so-called theoretical but we do cover them on campus. So we learn as we go and and uh
there is no alternative of really teaching people in a in an enclosed classroom environment. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Any other questions, comments from the board? May I entertain a motion to consider uh
all three degree programs together in Massan Shane? >> Thank you, Mrs. Shane. And a consent for that >> consent for the board proprietary education considering decision items two, three, and four together from Stellar Career
College, the three associate programs we just discussed. Uh do I have a motion? So move. >> Second. >> I'll second. >> Thank you. Mrs. Dan Shane.
>> Hi. >> Hi. >> Mr. Ken Kanesco. >> Hi. >> Mr. Scott Boen. >> Hi. >> Mr. Michael Nawson. >> I >> note the chair voting. I
>> decision items two through four are approved. >> Thank you so much. >> Thank you everyone. >> We appreciate it. >> Thank you. >> Thank you everyone. Thank you. Congratulations and