I'll now call to order, the Community Affairs Committee. We're going to start by having everyone introduce themselves. So if we can start with the front row with the minority leader. Thank you, madam chair. Michael Paul Hart, District twenty. Thank you very much, madam chair. Paul in a District 22. Thank you, madam chair. Nick Roberts, District four. Good afternoon, madam chair. Ron Gibson, District eight. Thank you, madam chair. Kristen Jones, District eighteen. Good at good evening, madam chair. And good evening, everyone. Keith Graves, District nine on the Indianapolis East Side. I'm councilor Ali Brown.
I represent District 10. And, also, if we can have our guest councilor introduce himself tonight. Thank you, madam chair. Josh Behn, district twenty one. Thank you, council members. We have two things on our docket tonight, proposal number five and proposal number six. We'll start off with proposal number five. It approves the mayor's appointment of Kelly Diamond as the director of the Animal Care Services Agency. Director Diamond is here, and she has a presentation for us today. So, we'll go ahead and allow her to to give us a presentation on who she is and why she would like to her plans for Indianapolis Animal Care and Control,
and then we'll open it up to questions from the council and comments from the public. Go ahead, Director Diamond. Alright. Is that correct? Okay. Thank you, Madam Chair, and members of the committee for the opportunity to be here this evening, and for considering my appointment as director of Indianapolis Animal Care Services. Services. As mentioned, I do have a, hopefully, a somewhat brief presentation to share a little bit about myself, as well as some of our wins at IECS for 2024, and some of our goals for 2025. A little about me for the past fifteen years, my career focus has been in the world of animal welfare and animal sheltering.
And in July of twenty twenty three, I was happy to join the ICS team as a new path in my animal welfare journey. And while I've served in a few different roles at the shelter, I have had the opportunity to meet and work alongside an extremely dedicated group of people in what is certainly a different difficult field. And for those of us in animal welfare, and I know there are some in this room today, we often find ourselves, faced with a common sentiment from members of the public, which is, I don't know how you do it, and I couldn't do your job.
Animal welfare is certainly a difficult job. It's very hard. There's no doubt. NICS has certainly faced its own struggles over the years. This past year has been no different, but it has also been a, not only a year of challenges, but a year of growth for us, and a good start for what I think is to come. At the heart of our work is a commitment to animals. And in 2024, we saw a much needed shift in thought from leadership and infusion of hope as we stepped out of our uncomfortable comfort zone of working in daily chaos and just
started trying new things. Because what we were doing clearly was not working. At the heart of it all, again, the world and times have changed and we had not changed with it. And so, in the spirit of that work, I'd like to share some of the strides that we have made and some of the successes that we have had, this year. There we go. ICS was fortunate to be accepted into the Best Friends Animal Society embed program, in which this nationally recognized organization embedded their staff in our shelter for full time and year round managerial assistance. They worked alongside staff helping us to learn more about industry best practices and improving
policies and procedures. Our our participation in that program is actually, winding down and coming to a close soon, but we will continue to receive ongoing support and resources and help from the organization. And of course, there is the new shelter. The the groundbreaking or ceremonial groundbreaking occurred, this past June. The shelter will be located at 5001 East Raymond Street and we started actually moving dirt on-site the end of last year and we are definitely looking forward to moving into our new home in 2026. Several months ago,
Best Friends as a part of the embed program also sent us one of their staff members to help us work on workplace culture. As you can imagine, we deal with a lot of stress and a lot of burnout in our shelter and in the industry in general. The best friends team worked alongside our leaders, worked alongside our staff, and helped us create a workplace culture agreement. We had a ceremonial signing of our workplace agreement among all of our staff, and we actually have blown up the workplace culture agreement and have it posted throughout our shelter. And while it's something new and different,
it's something that we'll continue working on and all doing our parts to help continue to assimilate what we've learned and employ that workplace agreement in our daily work. Last year, we also started our first social committee. This committee was comprised of staff that was tasked with creating morale boosting activities for the shelter. And throughout the year, they did bless us with some fun activities that were new and different, and we look forward to seeing what our new committee for this year comes up with. Off-site adoptions were, something new that we tried as well.
In the vein of trying something new and thinking outside of the litter box, if you will, we realized that in the face of decreased pet adoptions nationwide participated in four off-site adoption events, even traveling to Illinois to increase our visibility and provide our animals with new animals with new opportunities to find new families, and decrease our shelter population. These events were well received, resulted in some great adoptions, and even new partnerships with local businesses, and we look forward to doing more more of those this year as well. We also increased our open kennels.
We made a big change when we did this. This is something that the public had been asking for. As many shelters did nationwide when COVID initially hit, IICS closed its kennels and stopped allowing the public to actually visit animals. However, ICS did not follow suit when the rest of the world and the rest of the shelters across the country reopened their kennels years ago. This obviously makes it difficult for anyone wanting to adopt an animal if they can't see the animal and fall in love with it. And again, as I mentioned, it was something the public had long been calling for.
So we gradually reopened our kennels, and at this point, we now have all of our public accessible kennels open for visitation. And visitation. And this not only increases the ability for animals to get adopted, but also for pet owners to find their lost pets. One change we made that is perhaps one of our biggest accomplishments and is certainly one of the most impactful when it comes to alleviating stress and boosting morale for our staff. Last year, I had the pleasure of showing some of our council members our shelter and some of you as well, and provided a tour.
I think it's probably safe to say that it was an eye opening experience, and I'm sure you saw because you could not help but miss the fact that we were out of kennel space and as a result, we had dogs living in wire crates throughout our hallways and in our offices. Our leadership team made a commitment to our staff at the end of last year that we would not continue this practice. It was not sustainable for the sanity of our staff and trying to work in such an environment and it just wasn't fair to our animals. So making this commitment, our leadership team organized and held three of those off-site adoption events that I mentioned
in the short span of five weeks. And while our staff stayed back at the shelter to care for our animals, our leadership team and volunteers ventured out to these events. This included a 25 of driving to and from Illinois, with 34 of our dogs to try to find them homes. And I'm happy to say, through all of that work from all of our team, we have been without crates in our shelter for the past four months, and we will not be going back. Our hallways are clear. Our adoption staff can now work and help the public without being surrounded by over
a dozen dogs barking around their desk. And the impact this has had on our morale morale has definitely been huge. Some of our statistics, from 2024, you can see the number of our animal control for animal control officer calls, that we received last year. Also the number of animals that entered ISCS care. And just as a reminder, we do take not just cats and dogs, but the chicken, the horse, the emu, the peacock. We will take those as well, so they are clue included in those numbers. On the right hand side are some statistics that are specific to cats and dogs
at our shelters. So we ended the year with an average of eighty eighty seven percent life saving rate, which means that eighty seven percent of the cats and dogs that entered our doors left with a positive outcome. Meaning that they were adopted, they were found and reclaimed by their owners and returned home, or they were transferred to some of our rescue partners and shelter partners. We celebrate all of this and yet we recognize there's still a lot more for us to do. So for 2025, some of the goals that we have in store,
of course, we are now our new agency, our own agency as of January 1. We are thankful, very thankful for the partnership with BNS that, Director Brands leadership provided, the help of our team, provided while ICS was under BNS. And we are grateful for the continued assistance as we move through completing the transition of being our own department. So of course that is a big goal that we have to work through. BNS will still be helping us while we work to hire our own CFO and our own manager of operations to support the CFO.
And they will help us and continue to help us on the financial side with our budget, with our contracts, with our payroll. And by becoming our own department, we believe that this will allow ISCS to be in a better position for the attention and the resources organization deserves to make her shelter a more successful part of the city. As we continue to work filling those positions, I will be learning more about what that means, to be our own agency and actually learning more and becoming more involved in the processes that I hadn't been so learning more and becoming more involved in the processes that I hadn't been so involved in.
And that includes learning about the budget and our funding. And so I look forward to all of what, becoming our own agency means and using that to help our shelter in our city. We will of course continue working towards the new shelter and getting ready for that big move to our new location. And we will be spending a lot of the year doing a great deal of evaluation. Looking at how our structure now that we are on department works. Is it the best? Is there something that we need to change and what can we do better with
those respects. Also looking at analysis reports from best friends as our embed program ends, as well as the results from an organizational analysis that BNS worked with us to obtain from an outside animal welfare consulting agency. But overall looking at what we're missing and shifting from being a shelter that is strictly reactionary, and instead focusing on becoming more proactive, reactionary and instead focusing on becoming more proactive and working more efficiently, working smarter with thoughtful, sustainable plans, and actually creating and documenting SOPs and policies to keep us on track because those really did not exist. Looking at a variety of training needs for our new shelter team and also looking
forward to continue the work, on the city wide strategic plan with our fellow animal welfare partners. As As we further dive into what our city as a whole needs from all of us in animal welfare and how we can each do our part to better support one another and our community. And then a big part of our focus for 2025 will be community engagement. There is a large disconnect between our shelter and the community that we served. We've started conversations with the Mac team, to address and, and talk about issues with regards to how, requests are coming in and improve the process and communication between the public, the improve the process and communication between the public,
the MAC Indy request, and ICS. And we've also started our own an education campaign with a goal to bridge the gap with the community and foster better relationships to focus on helping, the public to understand who we are and what we really can do, to understand the ordinances and how we can better work together. We're looking at ways to get our staff, particularly our animal control officers, out into the community more as community partners, educators and resource providers, and community enforcement only when needed. Increasing our opportunities also for pet owner assistance through our Indie Cares program that helps
to keep pets in their home with the people that love them rather than surrendering them to the shelter because they have stumbled upon difficult times in the moment. And so, there's a balance that we are working to find and it's a difficult balance to find and that is not only serving the animals, but also the community, but not forgetting our staff and our teams as well. Serving all, holistically. Times are different and we are committed to doing better. We need to do better. We recognize that. And while being smart about it at the same time, There's no one way, one right way to do things.
There are no quick fixes unfortunately, because we wish they were, but we know and we are committed to being better and doing better. Those are our goals. If resourced properly, there's so much more that ICS can do for the animals, for the community, and for our staff, and for the people. And our leadership team has made great strides, with what they have done so far, and I'm very grateful for that. And again, for the valuable support from BNS. What I also look forward to again is learning more about what being our own agency is,
being our own department and subsequently bringing that to you to share that with you. And so we can talk about being a better shelter and serving our community holistically. I'd love to extend an invitation to all of you for some of you to return for a shelter, to our shelter for a tear to see what is different. But for those of you who haven't been there to really see, what we've been doing and I also extend an invitation for future conversations as well. I would be honored to be a part of the progress of ICS. I look forward to working with all of you and appreciate your consideration and time.
Thank you. Thank you so much. Mhmm. Questions from council? Councilor Graves? Thanks, madam chair. Thanks, director for your presentation. Awesome. And, just on a given any given day, would the new location have the square footage per per pet, per animal that is comfortable? Or how how are we there? Do you know the So looking at, kennel size or kennel numbers is kind of a good way to put it. So at our current, shelter, we have 191 dog kennels. If we if we're not using wire crates and things as an age or 191
dog kennels. The new shelter will provide us with, 200 and there's there's public facing kennels and there's behind the scenes, so I'll kind of focus on the public facing. There will be about 258, two hundred and 80 total kennels. That will allow us to care for the average number of animals that we normally have, but in a more humane way. Our current shelter, we just have the kennels that the that the animals go in and then mostly the public comes to. But at the new shelter, we will have isolation kennels, so that we can isolate animals if there's a disease outbreak.
So that we have more medical, kennels for animals. So that they're not sick animals aren't necessarily mixed in so much with the general population. So it will definitely be a lot bigger. We will have a larger medical suite as well, so that we can try to focus on more in house services. And again, providing more humane care. And just just bigger kennels, bigger, spaces for the animals instead of the smaller spaces we have now. Thank you. Councillor Roberts? Thank you, Madam Chair. There's so much that I could say.
I have so much appreciation for you for all of the reasons that were said before about just the tough job that you have, and really all the animal welfare advocates that are here. And having worked on the ordinance last year, altering some of the policies, you're always great to work with. And also, again, all the activists that are here. This is a long issue. Like you said, it's complex. There's a quick fix that would have been done already. But you have a good long career in animal welfare and you've done a great job. Just my four or five times visiting the shelter in the last year and a half. Every time, I get more of an appreciation for the work that everyone does.
And I think really having the shelter, like you said, will be a game changer. It won't fix everything, but it will be a game changer. One of the most recurring themes that I hear about with my conversations with staff that I'm so glad you mentioned here is morale. Obviously, just I think no matter what, there will always be an issue of just turnover in those positions. How is that currently going? I know that there was issue in the past with staffing. How many positions do you guys typically have and how many of them are currently filled? And how can we help you guys out with that problem as well? Thank you. Sure. We are, last when I checked yesterday, at about 20% vacancy.
So, we are, for example, we've got, 20 of our 23 animal control officer positions filled, which is wonderful. We have, you know, we are mostly lacking in our medical department. But I'm I'm happy to report. I I received several emails today that we've got some offers that went out. So we're we're excited about being able to build up our medical team, our medical, vet assistants, vet technicians. So we're about where we were this time last year, as far as the the number of vacancies that we have. Okay. Councilor Hart.
Thank you, madam. I just got a couple questions. I've actually got a a neighbor. She owns a donkey and a horse. It's the funniest combination of animals I've seen with their their buddies. So she, sent me about a dozen. I've limited this time to, like, four just to be respectful of time. Some of them are probably softball. But good questions nonetheless. So I wanna make sure I'm representing my animal loving constituents well. I know it's a hard job. Right? No doubt about it. And, you know, I think we all wanna see 100%, zero euthanasia as much as possible.
So I know that's what I is expressed to me as much as possible. But as we go into it, one thing she brought up to me was about, veterinarians. And she was curious and it's a good question. How many vets do we have with, So we have one vacancy, and that that is the only position that we did lose our veterinarian. I think it was near June or July of last year. So we do not have a full time veterinarian on staff in our hiring. We instead have been working with that individual, actually, who's doing contract work with us. And within we have two other veterinarians that are doing contract work with us to kinda help fill that void,
but we definitely still need that full time veterinarian. And particularly looking forward to the new shelter, as I mentioned, a bigger medical suite. We need a veterinarian to kind of staff that. And it's actually built to, to function with even more than one veterinarian at a time. Is it the the same kind of situation that every department is in? The city doesn't pay what the private does and they don't wanna That that is some that is a struggle that we're Okay. Yeah. I mean, it's a it's a recurring theme. We've got to overcome it. Are there relationships with, local universities that train veterinarians? So, we have in the past used some,
Purdue students. Of course, you have to have a veterinarian there to kind of work in that, that realm. We do utilize different clinics that do help us with some of our spay neuter surgeries that we're able to kind of outsource to them. But in addition, some of our medical needs with, some of the full service clinics as well as our partners at face low cost spay and neuter. So we we've got some ways that we're working around that. It's still a struggle and we definitely still need that full time veterinarian and hopefully building up from there into a bigger team as well. Okay.
We'll certainly share, you know, any kind of If there's digital media that we can all push out, I'm sure everybody here would be happy to to share those things to our networks. I'll keep going. You answered the question about, euthanasia or at least she gave the rates on it. I'm sure everybody wants to keep it at a zero percent rate. But, well, we we wanna see zero euthanasia. But two two quick ones. Is I is the animal control are you responsible at any type of regulatory agency? So we we are animal control as well. That is, admittedly a whole new ballgame for me. So it's still something that I am personally, learning about.
So I rely heavily on my, administrator, my managers, in that realm as well. Okay. Yeah. I'm not I'm not familiar, but it was one of hers, and we can do some more digging on that later. And the last one, you're gonna be a close neighbor to me. So my my district actually ends at Emerson and Raymond, and right across the street. Yeah. So I know I know the very area very well. When when do you open up or when does the new shelter open up? We're we're looking for early twenty twenty six. Twenty '6 okay so about a year away. Alright what you've got something to you know kind of tease the carrot for for new veterinarians this nice new shiny facility so.
Well thank you for- the work it's you got a lot ahead of you and- know that you've got a lot of support here to to see the best, out of this, service that we provide to our citizens. So thank you. Thank you. Councilors. Councilor Bain. Thank you, Madam Chair, and thank you, Director, for your presentation. And, appreciate the hospitality for being a guest counselor tonight. One of the questions that I get emailed about a lot and I think, you know, most counselors are sent on those. And it's they're definitely part of, like, an email campaign because, they all seem to be pretty consistent in their language. But they talk about the adoption policy specifically.
They label it as open adoption policies. And, you don't have to get into like specific instances with, staff or anything. But it seems like most of the time, they say that there's been, like, two employees that were let go or terminated or there was some kind of, punishment there because they tried to stop adoptions from happening to people that maybe wouldn't have, passed a background check, or people who wouldn't have necessarily been, permitted to have, animals. Could you speak to that a little bit? Yeah. So, I will speak to, as much as I can with personnel issues.
The issue was, not simply it boiled down to not following policies and procedures and there were other aspects to that. The focus has been on the fact that one of the issues was not following procedures. We had, open adoptions is something that is popular automatically just deny, deny, deny, but instead having conversations and and it's accomplished in a number of ways, but it's aimed at removing and reducing barriers both to the animals and to the
the the public to adopt. That can be done in a number of ways. For us, now, it is primarily instead of people coming in the door and have to sit down and fill out an application and go through an interrogation before they even look at animals. We've stopped that. So that's reducing a barrier. One of the, policies that was in place for and it only developed in the last, I think, couple of years at ICS, was the use of my case and performing a type of criminal background check, in that sense, before, allowing a person to adopt.
That included, as you're familiar, my case is not going to show just animal related offenses, which is, you know, for the most part, what we should be looking at, but it shows a lot of information. Some of which may or may not, have been, you know, true or is was in the process. What we found is that, we found that opened up the door for a lot of prejudices and biases and judgment on individuals for items that were not related to owning pets. We saw staff, using it and despite,
specifics that were in place, specific procedures that were in place, using it because, they didn't like, you know, the way a person's shoes looked. They had an accent. They didn't have a car. And so, it became very difficult to regulate that and prevent that bias from coming in and stepping in. And then, obviously, not giving people, you know, a benefit of the doubt or, you know, recognizing that we all make mistakes and that we learn from that. And so, what we did was instead of focusing on using that as a means of trying
to, weed through applicants, is we focus on using our own in house system as shelters do across the country that we use our database that includes because we are animal control. So that includes the database that we have of every call that we've received. Every animal that we've gone out and assisted, every animal that's come in and who they came in with, and we use that instead to try to determine the whether the individual in front of us was someone that we would adopt an animal to. And so we just open adoptions is just more about removing those barriers in in
different ways, and different shelters do it in different ways, and just having those conversations and treating people as individuals. Yeah. I appreciate that. I mean, we definitely wanna have, you know, a a low barrier for people to be able to, adopt animals. But just to confirm, if someone does have a history of animal abuse or I don't. There's probably studies whether or not, like, domestic violence should be included in that or not. But if someone does have history of animal abuse, does that show up on your database, even if, you know, maybe animal control is always involved in every situation, but if maybe just IMPD responded and handled the situation,
does that still show up on that basis? We have some type of, you know, call was put in whether through the MAC line or sometimes, you know, people will email or, council members will email us, and we will, create a ticket. That all goes into our system so we have that historical information too. Do police reports? That's a good question. I would have to ask about that. I don't Okay. Thank you. I believe anytime that we are called out to assist, that would definitely be in there. Oh, councilor Gibson. Thank you, madam chair. Madam director, I had the opportunity to come out and visit the facility,
last year, and, I'm very impressed with your your leadership, your management style, and, so I, I wholeheartedly support, your appointment this evening. I'm so impressed with you. You make me wanna adopt a pet. You're welcome to. And so, I'm struggling with that. But, I look forward to, seeing how you perform in the coming year. Thank you. I think puppies at council meetings would make things a lot easier. Any other council questions? We have comments from the audience. So please come up and introduce yourself. And, who you represent. Thank you. Sorry. Well, I apologize, Kim.
As we move forward to the public comment portion of the debate for this proposal, I would like to remind my colleagues and the public of a few ground rules. In order for everyone to have a fair chance to speak and be heard, it is important that we each observe the following ground rules. First, each speaker will be limited to two minutes. Second, any public comments must be reasonable. Relate related to the agenda item under consideration. Third, speakers who stray away from the item under consideration or become unruly repetitious may be
asked to may be asked to move on to the next point or to conclude their comment. Finally, attendees who caused disruptions that prevent the council from proceeding through today's agenda in a reasonable efficient manner will be removed. Please remember that some types of threatening speech or enticement to violence aren't protected by the first amendment at all. We will deal with those issues if they come up, but I don't think they will. Thank you, Kennel. Go ahead, director. Thank you. My name is Donna Casamento. I am the CEO of Indie Humane,
and I'm a board member of Operation Indie Animals. Operation Indie Animals resulted from the formation of a steering committee to create a citywide plan for Indianapolis due to a need to address the overwhelming crisis we are facing in our community. This crisis is not just an animal problem, but concerns the safety of our citizens. The citywide plan was funded by Naina Mason Pulliam and created by a group of concerned animal welfare professionals representing organizations throughout our community.
The steering committee for this plan included representatives from Fido, Friends of Indie Dogs Outdoor Outside, Indie Neighborhood Cats, FACE Animal Clinic, Indie Humane, West Michigan Street Vet Clinic, West or Indianapolis Animal Care Services, Peaceful Souls Animal Rescue and Recovery, and Indianapolis Animal Care Services board president Chris Robertson. It was a true collaboration with a desire for solutions to the challenges we face in the forefront at the forefront of all of our interactions.
Great thought and consideration were involved in our process, which included members of our community and animal welfare professions professionals locally and nationally. Our hope is to continue to work with IECS and its leadership to better the conditions of animals in our community and create real solutions for the animals and the safety of our citizens. We are submitting the community wide plan for consideration to you to let you know what our citizens are saying about the challenges we are facing.
Our board invites this council and or its members to meet with us to discuss our findings and our ongoing plan to support Indianapolis. Together, we can make a difference. Thank you. And you all have a copy of the citywide plan. We hope you'll review it and reach out to us. We'd love to meet with you individually or collectively at your leisure. Thank you. Thank you. Any other comments from the audience tonight? Counselor's last comments? Yep. Counselor Roberts? I'll say real quick. Again, appreciate the director for being here.
Counselor Barth and I have been a part of this, for the last year. I was able to make all the meetings, but some of them predated my time on the council as well. We'd be glad to talk about it with all of you as well. This was a very, very thorough, process that there was a lot of input. Not just from the nine people on here, but probably twenty, twenty five, maybe 30 community, advocates that have been on the advocacy side for a while. I really understand this issue. And I should really greatly appreciate all the people that put this together because it's very thorough. It's not just about the short term solutions, but the long term solutions, how we can prevent this. Of course,
there's always the day to day of having a shelter, but the shelter only goes so far. And having the long term plans to really address this issue is really the most important part to make sure we can get out of this problem and be in a much better spot ten, twenty, thirty years from now. So appreciate that and appreciate you for flagging this for us and to all my colleagues. Really look forward to working on this and implementing the parts of this vision that they've been working on for a while. So thank you. And all I'll also is make a motion, to send proposal five to the full council to do pass recommendation. So we have a motion and and a second. Any comments on the motion? Okay. All those in favor of sending proposal number five,
to the full council with a due pass recommendation, say aye. Aye. Any opposed? Same sign. Thank you. We will be sending, proposal number five twenty twenty five approving the mayor's appointment of Kelly Diamond as director of animal care, services agency to, the full council, with the two pass recommendation. Thank you so much, Director Diamond. Now we'll hear proposal number six, which appoints Danielle Hines to the Animal Care Services Board. Danielle, are you present? Could you please come up? Thank you, Danielle. Can you tell us a little bit about yourself and why you'd like to be on the board? Yeah.
Good evening and thank you for considering my appointment to the board. I have worked in the veterinary community, since 02/2005 in Indianapolis. I'm a registered veterinary technician. I've been involved, in animal welfare in Indianapolis since 02/2014 in quite a few different capacities. I do volunteer at animal care services and I also foster, much to my husband's chagrin. If anyone wants a foster kitten, we have one. She's very cute. Came in with a broken femur to the shelter. So, that's a little bit about me.
I'm I did serve on the IACS advisory board in twenty twenty two, twenty twenty three, and the very beginning of '24. I kind of rolled off, and was asked if I would be interested to join again. And I am really excited to see the shelter move forward, especially with the new building. Fantastic. Counselors, do you have any questions, comments? Counselor Roberts. Sorry for talking so much this time. This is unusual for me in committees, but I just wanna say appreciate your willingness to serve, and please engage with us if we can help out with anything. Our other, council appointment, Chris Robertson,
who many of us know does an outstanding job. He's very involved in the community. Mhmm. But please let us know if we can be, again, of helping in many ways. This has been an ongoing topic for us as a council body. Really trying to get partnership with the people that we serve with. Keeping us engaged with what's going on on the committee. That is a very important board to be on. So we appreciate, again, your interest being on the committee. Appreciate your history in animal welfare and look forward to working with you in that position. Yeah. Absolutely. Any other counselors? Do we have any public comment on proposal number six? Hearing none, is there a motion? So moved. Yeah.
Does that work? Yeah. Okay. Can I get a second? Second. May we have a motion and a second, to present proposal number six with a due pass recommendation, that appoints Danielle Hines Hines? I'm saying it correctly. Right? Yeah. Hines to the Animal Care Services Board. All those in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed, same sign. Thank you. We will be setting proposal number six, to the the full council due pass recommendation. Having no further things on our agenda, we're adjourned.