i'm very angry. Good evening. I would now call to order the Metropolitan Economic Development Committee to order for Monday. SEPTEMBER 15th will begin our meeting with introductions of my colleagues in first row. Thank you. MADAM Leader Darren Cahill District. 23, thank you. MADAM Leader Michael Paul Hart representing District 20. Thank you. MADAM Leader, Brian Mowery District. 25, thank you. MADAM Leader Nick Robertson, strict for thank you. MADAM Leader Kristen Johnston, strict 18. Thank you. MADAM Chair Berry and Illini District. 2, thank you. MADAM Leader run gives district 8. Thank you. MADAM Chair, John Barker think Council district 7. Thank you. MADAM Chair Council Jerod Evans representing District 17. Thank you. MADAM Leader, Leroy Robinson District. Thing you can Thank you, Council Megan List district 5, the first item on our agenda. This proposal, number 2, 7, 7
appoints Courtney and I apologize if I mess up your last name. This man to the city Market Corporation board of directors. And I apologize. Remember how to unless know my name is Courtney Richmond and I work for downtown Indy Inc. Share a little bit. Why your interest serving this capacity? Yeah, I've always worked downtown. So I've downtown worker for 25 years. I worked for Pacers, sports Entertainment for about 14 and now I'm with downtown Indy. And I just have seen that the abs and flows of the city market and the vital the station that, you know, was so thriving when I first started and just to kind of see where it's gone, I'm really excited about the development that's to come and excited to be a part of that dialogue and decision-making and and just kind of helping to lead that that clock forward. And thank you questions, comments from
counselors. Cancer Thank you. MADAM Leader. They got question. I guess I think I've asked everybody involved with a city market south, David wants prepare. Sell for the exact same question. The do you have any vision of doing any benchmarking of our city market and they offer and how it operated to those similar another markets. And if so, which ones? I think I'm not probably up to answer that question. I think it's probably more of the board chair Craig Ments or for Dmd to decide. But certainly whatever they you know, I'm sure that they're different benchmarks and things that they're looking to do and different markets they're looking at. I know they've done, you know, significant research on other developments in other cities. And I'm happy to be a part of that. But I'm
not sure that I'm up the property. One answer that question. Okay. Thank you. Thank Later, I would just like to second counselor Cahill's comment that I think as the board member, you know, sure, you get advice from the fo the other folks. But as the board of the city market, see the board taking the initiative. Also look and see how they can mimic other cities. I said last time he was notice your faces and we had Lori Miser as well. A lot of pace of people going to market was years ago I told her as well that. I family lives up in Milwaukee area and they have a city market. Almost same footprint as arson. And it is a thriving space. I mean, sources quite frankly, there's hardly room
to walk around their itself all the time. And they also extended hours. So I would encourage us to look at someone somewhere like Milwaukee, similar sized cities make a pun see what they're doing, right, because that's that's how we make this a successor. And we're obviously a few years off from opening city market again. But I think putting a plan in place now so that when the doors duo to have the same type of I would love to see us really work. These other are cities that have had such success because it's been a huge mess in the past excited for open back up we have with new board members on here to have better, more fresh set of ideas. So I hope you will come that and hopefully can look forward to that. Absolutely. I mean, I'm an event person I do
the events for downtown Indy. So I always looking at other cities and what they're doing for events and other things and how they, you know, get their downtown deprive. So I am all about doing the research, going to different cities and saying how others do it, do it well, like not just doing it, but who's doing it right? And, you know, kind of replicating that, making it our own brand. You're welcome. Castor delay. Thank you, MADAM Looking resume, it looks like you're a great fit for the organization being on the board. I just want to say thank you in advance for your service and the last person that got a point in a couple weeks ago, we had the similar questions for her. And second, there's a lot of interest as I'm speaking to you and I see Steph back as well. And what's
going on at the city market. I I hear from folks in my district as well about wanting come back to that. Lots of folks have memories being there. So we're all looking forward to seeing it reopened again to thank you. Yeah, sure. And I am too. I just want to say when I was in elementary, I would sing on the balcony. So I have fun memories nearly my whole life. So I'm excited to be a part of that to see that next. You know, the next chapter for the same market. Initial comments were cancerous. Is there anyone audience that wishes to speak to propose a number to 77? Santa entertain a motion property moved and second, all those in favor signify by saying aye, those opposed same sign motion carries. Thank you. Thank you, The next item
on our agenda proposal. Number 2.78, points. They've inherent to the city Market Corporation board of directors. If you like to share, why are interested in serving in this capacity? It's a good evening, everyone. I'm so David executive director for business on the Ship Initiative with Chamber of Commerce. For I've had. Over 15 years of been a nurse who worked on different levels within the banking financial literacy. Part of it. I think that's kind of that. Some of the things that gets lost the wave of the city market course, is a place great place to go great place to some food. But also we have spinners trying to grow scale their Some of the the benefits that that I see from the opportunity. Wonderful. Thank you. Questions comments from counselors. Is there anyone in the audience that wishes to speak to propose a number to
78? Cnn? A an the most of properly moved. And second, all those in favor signify by saying aye, those opposed same sign the motion carries. Thank you. Thank you for your willingness to serve. The next 2 items are under our budget hearing Marion County Recorders Office and then followed by the Marion County Assessor's office good evening. Needs met here in Dusty members of the council. I have faith Khambrel. You MAY County court company with it can't be Jr writer and we are. He's too busy Twenty-twenty 6 budget. A county court stop the south public with these transactions, such as means want to see more to 18. 21 record a southeast efficiently has preserved over the levee. And this time to talk just acting out my to turn over to chief rival. Good afternoon,
everyone. Our first slide, which is dealing with our agency staffing. So we currently have 17 positions. We do have an opening for an executive assistant position which will be field. Either the end of this year or the 1st quarter during the 1st quarter of next year. Our makeup is We have African-American Caucasian, Hispanic, Asian and also mix. Mixed So both frontline and also in leadership. And this enables us to serve a very broad and ethnic population within our county. Highlighting some of our strategic strategy is to retain staff. We have an annual incentive. And we also have what we call our high 5 recognition program and this program basically highlights staff members who do a great job with customer service. So
we really strive to have excellent customer service and how we treat the residents of Marion County. These programs are approved by hr and they do contain or they do have a financial and edible reward. We found that people love to eat. So that. Describing are. Investments in hiring and training every person who every member who comes along who comes on our staff is not only train with an on-the-job training, but we also have videos that were professionally produced for every position within our agency. I think we did that 2023. Looking at the next slide and that you have this information in front of you. Let backtrack year. Which should fun. The programmatic and fiscal fiscal successes. The takeaway on this slide is the very bottom where it says no, any cost saving measures
are investments. So we have a new process that we're beginning in OCTOBER of this year and it's called doc numbers up front. It's a recording process and this is going to win able customers to now come into our office and receive their recorded documents. The same day that they come in. Currently they have to wait. 24 hours. So this process is going to be huge for us. And this will also eliminate some of the Epson printers that each clerk has currently on their desk. And what's a printer paper and also in cartridge costs. Now will turn it over to matter. Record for the slide. That's up on the screen. Them. Thank So community engagement outreach is really near and dear to my heart and what we're doing right now to raise awareness for to see is that
we have a show condiment and we part of the Channel 16 is serves as educational platform and we talk about that bass is important make a sea of their homes and have it can be tempting fast. We just like to show you out just a little The show on record. I make based on all. Some of the way. Is a at least There's big part of that scam I would say is forgery. Part in a lot of that. And they are turning that information and to have their own property and they're the owners. We Thank Jason, for being our guest today on the program. Absolutely. Thanks for having And great thing at the office, you know, and and educating people on how to be vigilant. So that's just one part, one of part of what we do. And we
also I also a teen homeowner association fees. And when I met these means I'm able to answer the questions about what his do it because of what you need. They think we are couldn't newspaper of 130 so they don't know who we are, what we And again, you know, the final ways campaign, I know if you saw throughout and he's just seen the underserved areas, we do have your size it to be in place out to the people. Can Colleen. And if take homes by calling crime then straight to my office. And also to help to help reach out again to underserved groups. We have fun with the law enforcement impd and in action at national night out this county expands. Says to the residents who might not otherwise engage with
government also to address some of the biggest such as languages and physical disability. Again, with this show, we have a monthly newsletter and also social media print press able to provide information to those who are of those platforms and when beard is, we had our think about a year ago, we had chansley our Web site. It's a Spanish and English and all of hand out when we go out to the community is both the 90's as well. Continue on. So some of the goals of pardons and out comes from the funding. It's again. I want to educate 1 million live at 987. Of course, is that immediate south a little bit is to ensure that they understand what all what we do, that the critical role that we play. And again, to educating young throughout that cost of the show did a newsletter. I'm not
one of my main goals is transforming to go is to continue to digitizing records currently that to 1960, and we want to go back to least 1920, and again, when it comes to just me, I'm that needs a guy and we are out here with the initiative would probably rise in fact that teen is specially in the morning North areas, seems to be more that U.S. Will be decided will be going to do with the funding. It we're going to and again hands, public knowledge and we are going to continue to digitize make sure those records go back. 2.96, the of the biggest at cone from the is increased. Justin Coppet is in the office. We spent to build a great interest in companies in Henry County. Court is out these and transparent efficient and community focus public, its assistance. So now like to turn it on today are seeking
talk about Looking at our revenue. We're fortunate for the past 2 years. Our revenue has been relatively the same. And 2024. And also if you look at your today 2025, it's very close or introduce budget for 2026. Is just slightly under. But we're all still in that same ballpark. Revenue is derived from our recording fees. Copy fees when customers come in to get leans deeds or mortgages. And also we receive search fees from our software vendor whenever someone goes and does a public search. I like to on this slide, I really want is bring your attention to the middle section where says highlight in a new or updated programs that are expected to generate revenue. One thing
that we're going to do. Starting in 2026 is that we're going to invest some of our cast perpetuation fund into a trust. Indiana workout. With the Marion County treasurer. And so this will enable us to receive between 3 and 4% interest on those funds, which is going to average around $3500 per month. We'd like to use those funds that revenue for a property fraud. And for a veteran honors outreach, the benefit of that is, of course, that won't take up customer or customer constituent money to be able to do that. So. To the next slide. So the big takeaway on this slide here. Our total overall budget, 2 things. I do want to bring something to your attention.
There is a typo. On your sheet. You probably have look at the perpetuation for 2026, I believe you have the figure. That's just 1 million, 819 dollars. 100, 1 million, $819,820. And that is incorrect. It should be 1 million, 915. $1820, which is reflected on the screen. So please, pardon are type o on that. The key takeaway on this line, however, is that the overall budget, not each character, we're going to over the characters in a minute. But the overall budget increase by 4,000 $787. And that's due to the covid increase. So if you look at character, one weight control. Our character went increased
by a total of $33,499. That's directly because of the 2.9% cola increase. Everything else remain. The same will still. Stu, you know in a store, wages in our health insurance out of this character, as we always do. So no, nothing. We're weird. And this character as far as how we administer the funds character to which supplies. This is a flat line budget. So it did not increase or decrease going to remain the same as last year. And again, we will use these funds and uncover what's needed at the beginning of the year. So that will have room to be able to meet all of our supply needs. Character. 3 other services in charge us. Character. 3 did decrease by a little over $28,000. And that's just because of the
agency-wide budget cuts. So that was a 4% budget cut. We pretty close to that. Our funds again will be used the exact same. This wall have any kind impact on our ability to pay our our land vendors. Our contract. Our What am I trying to say? A vendor for Hollande server software, the contracts that we have with those. So we were simply uncover those funds at the beginning of the year so that we're able to meet those. And character for again. This is another flat line budget for capital outlay. It's going to remain the same as it did last year. And that is our budget overview east. Are there any questions? Any questions? Thank you so Presentation questions, comments with counselors, cancer heart. Just quick walk comment and a question about first, you guys make awesome duo. You guys back and forth also message
thank you to all of you know, beyond that, are you guys came back here. Maybe it was last year. It was sometime mid year kind of blend together. Don't see very often but we moved. I think 300,000 or something along those lines for you guys to do some records, digitization. I'm just curious. Yeah, how that effort went. Great person, a good, good memory. We did we we I believe it was originally 200,000 between 15200,000. So that process was completed. So we did increase another 2 years on digitization. So now we are digitized back to excuse me. We're now index back to 1961. So it's a process, but we're not going not going out a couple years at a time. Yeah. The question. Council Gibson. Thank you.
MADAM Chair of MADAM Recorder, a thank you very much for excellent presentation. Thank you for your deputy as well. With information I was very impressed with your the certification, meaning that we can get beaten stuff, trying this. That's that's being current. I really I really appreciate And this could you break that down for me a little bit further for how would get the cause? I would like to get a copy of might be, but I don't know how that how can I personally know get online? Great question. So there's a link now that's on our website. The indeed dot Gov. Website slashed quarter and you'll see where it says the certification. You just click on that link and it's very similar to much or if you're familiar with that process. But you'll go through that process. It takes maybe 2 or 3 minutes and then that
come right to you in a pdf. And so you no longer have to wait on estimated that out. It's wonderful. Good news. Thank you both for being here in your budget. Proves to be well in line and look for support thank you. Thank you. Thank And it's no accountability. Thank you, MADAM Chair. I just want to say, I think your outreach efforts are very visible. I noticed e-mails that you're telling us about whatever is going on in your office, your newsletter, the off the record show. And so I just wanted to say thank you. I know it's difficult for tougher to county wide elected officials and not necessarily part of the job duties. And so I just want to recognize that you're going to get shot. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Additional questions counselors. Is there anyone that has questions regarding
the budget presentation? Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank The last item on our agenda for the evening is a Marion County assessor's office. Good Good evening. MADAM Chair and committee members. My name is just o'Connor the Marion County Assessor. Here with me tonight director of assessment, Gabriel Dayton, as well as my cfo and director of Administration Theresa Bates. Tonight will be presenting our 2026 budget for the Marion County assessor's office. First slide of just certain mission statement values. I'm not going to read it. I will highlight, The last ends. We treat everyone with respect, dignity and compassion, to deliver impartial and accurate assessments for the citizens
of Marion County. And some of our values are fair and equitable. Transparency and positive customer experience. This next slide just shows our agency over overview, which is 4 main functions of the assessor's office with majority of staff dedicated to real estate, which would be the assessment of all properties in Marion County as well the data, which if you could, if you've ever found a conveyance document or a deed in Marin County, you're gonna come to the assessor's office where we stamp 4 taxation and record for the sales disclosure before you head down to the recorder for final record nation. Another area is personal property, which right now is the it what there will
be changes starting next year with sb One. But we a handful out 10 or employees dedicated to carrying out the statutory duties of business personal properties, which is a self filing tax kind of like your federal income tax on business, personal property, which would be anything not related to real as you're operating a business oak tables, chairs, computers of that nature. So the next slide just goes into our staffing is the assessor's office. We have 93 full-time positions. We currently have 75 filled with 18 positions vacant. We have a 65%. Minority female employed at the assessor's office with management, comprising 58%. Minority female. Pride ourselves on career advancement. We have a high number of our employees who are promoted from within. We also dedicate are are dedicated to educating our employees with in-house
training and as well teaching and house for continuing education, which our employees are required to have either a level 2 or level 3. We also voluntary overtime and we've continued to telework policy, which is 2 days of work here with the city. So allows our south to work from home 2 days a week. The next shows our overview or chart. I just a couple. Fiscal successes. Just in hand just for k you know, we take policies too soften justification within our neighborhoods. We've also we've got all of our commercial appeal's assigned at this point. 2 analysts to work. We continue time. We work. Residential appeals. We met our statutory dog certification schedule. And like I mentioned before, we
have a assessor university which allows our staff to do continuing education and house. We've also. Quickly review agency needs went vacancies based on workload duty consolidation. Another game deficiencies. Next. We have community engagement outreach. I attend many neighborhood meetings around the county. We also have a home owner's information pamphlet that we hand out. Our all our field specialists are on the field. Leave the home owner of camp or to let them know are there and what we were doing there. We worked with to increase our online services. We utilize appeals stated improve neighborhood delineation. And we have what's a cattle call hearings where we're trying to drive these appeals that we have outstanding to adjudication or finalize these sometimes people found appeal
on. It's sometimes hard to get in touch with them. So what we do is we just so not notices and ramp up staff to make sure that we have adequate staff to handle anyone who shows up to this hearing and hopefully get that appealed on at the informal level, which is with our staff. Some of our goals for 2026. We want is for see up to no value in our current processes and departments and caught consolidation of party reached out to the city controller to let them know just you know what bills have. You know what this bill specifically has changed just in terms some of our statutory duties going away so that we can plan to move those people into compass positions that we have so that we're not laying people off that were actually moving in and those positions where we will no longer lead
need them just based on statutory changes and, you know, duties going away. There are a few commercial appeal's with large assessments and they will require an appraisal, especially our our hotel are large hotels, a multi-family or the large office buildings that we have. So utilize greater GIs functionality, improve historic neighborhood, delineation problems and identify changes during reassessment. We're currently on a cyclical reassessment. So we're going to do one quarter of Marion County every year and then conclude that in 4 years. So covered all Marin County or reassessed on Marin County, little different in what we call annual adjustment
or annual trending. Using 12 months of previous sales. 2 look at Aaron Wise neighborhood factors Basically change assessment on a neighborhood level, whereas when more speaking to reassessment, we're changing those on a parcel level. And so what we're looking at is has this parcel change of the tone down a garage and unfollow permits when they have to remove and assessment or add an assessment like a deck or in addition. So we continue ensure cessar processes are available to the taxpayer online. We can do 100% of the assessor business online. We have very few out is coming in and live in person. But we do have live in person on the first floor of the city County building,
which we can handle. It's mainly for our deeds. So people who are going to file a will come in start that process before they had the recorder. But we can handle, you know, any business with the assessor on first floor. So it just keeps people more of a one-stop shop first traveling the city county building. So we'll get right down into our budget right So we have for funds that we utilize obviously county general. But we also have a dedicated team of the fun reassessment as well. Self-disclosure endorsement fund. As you can see, We have a her adopted reduced introduce and then and the variance of each won. So like I said, we have a few sources that we use for These
endorsement fee and the sales disclosure fee directly tied to the conveyance When you are filing a conveyance talking whether it be a deed or an affidavit that requires a self-disclosure fee. That's where these funds or that's how they are funded. So this next slide just shows a budget comparison by character. So we just character one adopted introduced. And then the variance for each fund. So next, just going in the budget breakdown. Character want our totals. 5 million, $484,593. That's an increase of $250,001 due to funding the current staffing levels. We'll call a health insurance. Add back some benefits. Character to we
have a total of 36 ar increase from last year. Character 3. We have a 14,502 dollar decrease from last year. Character deals with our professional services of parking security and our subscriptions that we subscribe to. Last of character for a total 9,000. We have no variance from 2025. And with that, conclude our presentations any questions. I'll be happy to answer. Thank you so much your presentation. Questions comments will counselor counselor Abbott. Thank you, MADAM Chair. Thank you, sir, your team. Obviously, for all this work selfishly, I probably utilize maps, dot, Gov. And all information is put out
probably every single day even as this weekend I was working on the project, a national project, the different from and they're having to help with some the Indiana stuff and quite frankly, Marin County's number one of the state. I always think my experiences with the j s information online. There are a lot counties with nothing online and having to contact every single other county. They're out whether it's their GIs department or this office to get that information is a hassle. So give us of credit for that. Well, the question I always have is where does that responsibility breakdown in terms of you guys versus I sa because again, we have a lot of information out there come house on the city's website. Whose responsibility is it to maintain a lot of that online
their face. Thank you. Thanks for the question. Just pretty collaborative endeavor. So, you know, we have we in the assessor's office maintain the the ownership lines. So any deed or or read our place or anything that changes ownership or the line, the boundary line we're going you know, our GIs GIs handles that. So we're sort of the keeper of the Castro maps, as they say, it's the ownership maps. So that's really our main layer in. You know, a lot of that goes into it. It's not that it's not that simple. But you know, so, you know, our layer is pretty much dedicated to that. And, you know, all the other agencies to feed into that will will add their layers so that it becomes a
kind of a living usable. One place like you said. So you guys maintain the like maps to covers and normally mainly I sa the maintains a lot of maps on there. I think honestly, quite frankly, even some of us don't really look at those enough because there's such a wealth of information and those over to I say when they're ready, publish us have like direct access to publish a yourselves. How's that work? We have direct access 2 at it change just a layer, which will we are responsible for, which would be the ownership or in the easements out on the map or anything that's dealing with ownership or over ownership lines. So if you think of the Giants as layers, i we're going to feed that
layer and, you know, dpw has right of ways. And, you know, whatever they deal with from the city, right away standpoint where their sewer lines. So everyone sort of feeding their own data and then that's downloaded combined. I can't I don't know. The technical way. But, you know, I say is a partner, but we do maintain its or employees are the ones that are drawing new lines. I mean, they're reading the legal description that line change from last from the last owner. You know, they're going to re draw that line and make sure that they're taxed accordingly. Sort. They sold a piece of their parcel to a neighbor. You know, that's going create a new ownership line and we're going to have
to accordingly and tax a new owner. Additionally because they've Atlanta, their parcel. Awesome. Thank you. Get that work. Thanks additional questions. Comments counselors yesterday Lady. Thank you. MADAM Chair. As you were talking about, reassessing Marion County Properties Holmes is specifically are you? Using drones? Are you you? I know you talked about it a little bit or using humans to like. How do you know if somebody with the daca example? Or a garage if they didn't file the permit to tear down and rebuild. How do you know that somebody is done? That is kind of where I'm going and using humans drones like how do you collect that information, right? We do not have drones. I I see that is
probably possibility. One day. When I when I first started as assessor, I think we had around 120 employees. And so now we're down, you know, as you see under 100 and I it's just based solely on technology, you know, so we can just do more with less based on technology. So we do have boots on the ground is what we call them. But we need allies, desktop review more specifically will will, you know, utilize aerial photography that will, you know, we have aerial photography from year to year in the software. Well, you know, overlay each other and then highlight a change. And then we can zoom in and say what is that purple It's where they, you know, was a garage. And now there's not. And there
was no permit taken. So we can pretty much do a lot of the work from the desk because you can measure from your desktop as well. Some areas, you know, it's not so easy to do desktop review into a lot of our inner city neighborhoods. Well, you know, you have clothes lots together so can't really get a good view of all the sides of the house. You know, a lot of times in those areas, we're going to have to send boots on the ground. Thank you for sharing that information. So I wasn't aware that there is technology that but I as you're talking, United contractors out the talk about that software that they use to further. I got a new roof a couple years ago and so they would talk about that software that would We can just use our
You know, that aerial photos and their point from wherever to get an estimate of the roof size. And so I I think that's great. Could you say again how often you're reassessing the county and then is that similar to other counties? Are they on a on a similar schedule as a surrogate or other counties? Maybe better, you know, staff property ratio and they're able to do it faster more often. Just property taxes are huge to this is why I'm asking. There's such a huge discussion and you know, my certain of my district are asking for information on on how how often they, you know, get assessed and how that become of the values. And so I just was wondering if you could talk a little bit more about
how often? Yeah, sure. So the simple answer is. The assessment should be 100% of what market value or what the homeless were in. You know, we're a little bit behind because, you know, just behind based on state law. So every everything we do is is by statute or state law. And every county is subjected to the same state law. So they're on the same cyclical reassessment. So there, you know, a lot of counties don't do and house work. They will hire a 3rd party vendor to do the assessment. Part of it. But, you know, obviously Marin County, we do 100% of that staff dedicated to that. A lot of times reassessment in our terms are confuse with maybe annual adjustments are trending where we're just looking at sales. So we're assuming, you know, that
reassessments captured everything correctly with your property. So you what? You're standing there looking at matches what's on your property record card. And then we just used to 12 months of proceedings. Sales to analyze the entire neighborhood to see what that neighborhood has done, whether it's gone one is going down. And I think, you know, obviously what we've seen is a story times. I mean, when I started in this business in this business of being the assessor, just giving example, I mean, I think we had 15, 18,000 surplus properties in Marion County someone didn't pay the taxes for number of years. It goes in the county control. We're down a handful 2000 or so of those. So I think what we've seen is just historic value increase, especially in
the residential sector. And there's lots of reasons to cause that, right? I mean, there's private equity that spine it. There's just there were high number of buyers. You know, that's at that time. I mean, we are seeing a slowdown activity. I can't say we're seeing a slowdown in value. I mean, I think values have slowed down in a sense of they aren't escalating to 30, 30% a year in appreciation, which we have seen and not just us. I mean. A statewide study we didn't even come in. That's the highest in Marion County. Other counties saw larger increases average or assessment You know, it's not Marion County issue. It's probably a national issue where we've just seen just huge from year to year and
really started in 2017. But I would say, you know, right after the pandemic in 2020 is where we was not see maybe 10 to 15, what we would see large increases. You know, 2030% just over a course of the year. Additional questions, comments from counselors. Is there anyone audience that wishes to speak to the budget presentation? Thank you so much for your presentation. Is there any other business before this committee this evening? Cnn it in a motion for adjournment where a juror.