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All right, it is 6:30. We will call this economic development authority meeting to order. If we could all rise for the pledge of >> allegiance. Algiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all. >> Doing roll call. Uh, Commissioner Zadon and Commissioner Heman are both absent. Everybody else is here. Uh, we will move on to agenda modifications. Are there any this evening, Miss Hilshine? No, there are not. >> All right, then I'll entertain a motion to adopt the agenda.

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>> Motion to adopt. >> Second. >> Motion by Lundine, second by Peterson. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries 5-0. The agenda is adopted. Uh next we'll move on to approval of the meeting minutes. >> I'll make a motion to approve the meeting minutes from uh the last

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meeting. >> Second. >> I did have one correction. Is that okay? Um it says I mean we can vote on it. Uh the vice president nomination is listed there twice. The president nomination is missing.

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>> No problem. Other than that, you guys good with that as your emotion. Your motions. So that was >> I stand by my >> Okay. Hidden camp with the motion. Uh Shakria Lee with the second. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? >> Motion carries. 5-0. Uh next we'll move

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on to public hearing F1. Uh request from the Creary Kitchen and Tap House LLC for a loan under the restaurant recruitment program from the EDA revolving loan fund. >> Um good evening EDA board. Um we have an application for the EDA revolving loan

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fund specifically through the restaurant recruitment program. In your packet, you will see um the pre-application. Um and if it is recommended for approval tonight, then um whatever you decide,

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whatever rate um versus or amount um that will then move forward to council, but we will also require more information from the applicant uh that finance director um Soulberg as well as our bank that we

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go through. We'll also have them review it to make sure all the information is as needed. Um and then we will um require security for the the loan as well. So >> what's the minimum interest rate we can charge?

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>> Um it's really up to for our policy it's 3%. Um I'll per policy it's 3% but >> per policy it's 3% but it's up to you guys whether you would like to modify that at all. So same thing with our

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policy for maximum loan amount is $500,000. The applicant's requesting $50,000. The applicant's requesting $100,000, but we are able to not follow that policy if it is approved by EDA to have different terms.

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>> The state statute allows us to um set what we want since it's a set policy by the city. Um this you guys can make a recommendation to council for whatever you think is necessary at this time or what you'd prefer. Um I would say our

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current balance in that fund is Yeah, that's my question. >> 180,000 >> 180,000. >> Yeah, 185,000 as of the end of April. And we have not had an applicant for this money since 2014, I believe. And

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our last like payment that we received back into this fund was from 2017. So, it has kind of been sitting there for a while, too. >> And so, staff is recommending to allow for the $100,000 um loan amount. the applicants do based on whatever

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percentage we're recommending the 3% um that's what they generally say covers administration fees um but not higher than 3% is what we would recommend um because the point of these loans are is to utilize the money at a local level

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and we this isn't money we put in it is money we received through state programs through loan funds but now has become city managed funds and so you guys have the authority to utilize it and that and set those interest rates because we're not currently um

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the loans that we originally received this funding from have been closed out on the city end. So, we're allowed to set those rates and those amounts. >> So, I would I would just like to say I know for street assessment policies we do prime rate plus one. Um and I think

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you know a street assessment is almost like us loaning money to a resident. It's a similar situation. And so I would like to see personally um see us be close to that. I think that's that's fair. Um but obviously I get there's economic impact and you know we're thrilled about the crearyy uh being

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renovated and open in the summer. Um I think most of Sania is very happy about that. um and they've done a good job filling it up. But I just uh from my perspective, I would like to see that. And I will just say that I will be abstaining from the vote on this just because

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>> I will need a reason for the absention just because it is a loan. And so per um attorney requirements, he said he would like to know why. >> Sure. Yeah. Just because I went to grade school with the applicants and I don't want any false rumors being spread if it

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passes. So, I'll just be abstaining. So, have at it, guys. >> Do we need to open and close the hearing first? >> Do you want to have the discussion first or the public hearing first or both? Or >> I thought typically we do the the hearing first.

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>> Okay. Sure. Yeah. So, we can we can open the public hearing. If there's anybody that would like to to speak on this matter, you're more than welcome to come forward and just state your name and address for the record. And I would just like to say the applicants are here to speak on the matter as well. And so I think it'd be

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good for them to >> Yeah. Come on up if you'd like and just kind of give us a rundown on maybe what the money's for, what you're thinking, what your plans are. State your name and address, please. And thanks guys for coming in. >> Uh I'm

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my partner next year. We are uh in the process right now. Um, I'm sure that you've seen a few videos and such that we posted maybe of the crearyy, but we are undertaking, >> uh, we just have a big project going on. And so, um,

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and so, uh, we are going to be using money for renovations, um, plumbing bid, electrical bids, all that came back. Um, put in there a big $200,000 equipment bid. Um,

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what what text question do you guys have? >> So, this is a fiveyear it looked like a fiveyear plan. There's 60 payments. That's every month. Um, when I would just like a little explanation or or more um I guess

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clarification from city staff. It says in the in the policy that we could take a uh subordinate collateral position, but in this case, we would be the primary um and if if that were if say if we had the primary collateral collateral position and then they went out for another loan, would we still be in the

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first collateral position from that point? >> Um I guess >> our bank would not allow that. >> Yeah, we would still we would then be in the subordinate position. >> So we we would still be in a subordinate position. Yes. At this point, we would be the

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first position, but if they went out for a second loan, we would likely become a subordinate position. >> Yes. >> The other loan would >> we would? >> We would. Oh, okay. >> It's just the nature of how this kind of funding works generally. >> Okay. >> Because they likely wouldn't be able to

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get another loan if they from a bank if they weren't the first position. We would have to see what you know, we could have a conversation with the bank at that time. Our plan is to use cash um that we have that our family has. We're taking out private

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loans to pay cash upfront. Um and then we're going to refinance the building, all the the real estate together afterwards to be able to pay back. >> What's your total estimate cost of the the entire renovations that you need to make or is that kind of ongoing as things pop up?

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>> It's ongoing, but I'd say a pretty accurate number we come back to for equipment and renovations with just the restaurant side. Uh, we're probably somewhere between 650 to 700,000. >> Sure. >> It's a big project. >> It's a big project. It's fun.

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Commercial. If you add commercial to things, it's expensive. If you add restaurant to things, it's more expensive. I >> actually do know that. We just inquired about a commercial. And I was like, "Holy cow, that's expensive." >> All right.

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My personal opinion is that we put this opportunity in place for this particular reason. Um, and having those sats with the money has been sitting a little bit and we haven't had an an applicant in a while. I don't I think it's a reasonable

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consideration. I mean, we're all excited about what's going on downtown and we want to most of us want to see that come to fruition. So, I don't think it's not something we should consider. >> Sure. >> I don't I don't disagree with you on the the street portion of it, but this fund

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was specifically for this, >> correct? >> And I I'd like to see that interest rate as low as possible for them taking this step into it. I wouldn't want to see anything more than that 3%. >> I I would I I agree with with what

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you're saying. I agree with what you're saying in the sense of they are taking a big step. This is what that money is for, but prime plus one is is kind of standard. >> Um they're,

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you know, I I would recommend that as the interest rate >> and and I know in in the restaurant business it's it's risky and we want to see you guys succeed. Um and typically a bank interest rate would be significantly higher than that. Um, I

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guess Matt or Nick, do you know, uh, Mr. Soulberg, do you know on that money if that's sitting in the account, we're gathering interest on that, correct? >> Yes. >> Do you know what the percentage would be? >> It's going to be roughly around that same 3%. >> Okay.

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>> And I would like to say that our assessment policy, and finance director Soulberg can speak more on this, um, is not prime plus one. It actually is >> treasury. our current bond rate if we were to go out for debt on the project plus one. So that'd probably put us

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somewhere around 4%. It's all going to kind of depend on like number of years and scope of the project, but roughly 4% would be what we would use for that. >> So it's treasury bond plus one typ. That's what it says in the contract here. So I'm just trying to clarify like

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what are we using? So I mean if if we're getting or if that would be at roughly 4%. Yeah, >> that's not a whole >> huge difference between 3% and 4%, but it's I I would like to see us follow policy as much as we can. >> And that is fine. I just prime plus one

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would be 6.75% plus one. And so that's just >> yeah, that was the question. So yeah, it says I just wanted to clarify that >> it said it said both before. It's like which one is it here? So >> this money is not acrewing at the same rate that we just had done the uh the contract renewal last month where it was

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like the 3.25 25 or 75, whichever one that one was. >> Yeah, they're all at a mixed rate because it also goes in with our investments that we hold outside of what we currently have at our bank, too. So, some of that stuff is paying us 1% when it was stuff that got locked in like

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during COVID. So, with those interest rates just rising and falling, our mix is roughly around that 3% too. And our interest rates all depend on what the market is too because we do adjust based on what our bond values are monthtomonth too. So, things are going up, our values

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are going down, and actually decreasing the amount of interest that we're recruiting. So, >> can I say something? >> Yeah. >> Um, just reading through when you guys were building this restaurant recruitment program, um, looking at the criteria, the eligibility criteria, I

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think we match a lot of this almost word for word. And a lot of the incentives you you asked for were grants. And we're not here asking for grant. We're not asking for for money straight up. Mhm. >> We're here asking for this 0% or low interest loan that you guys came up with. So,

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>> um I guess that's just kind of I wanted to make that point that you guys had talked about this previously and hadn't kind of talked about a a zero or low interest rate on this. >> Sure. >> I'd say one of the other reasons that staff feels more comfortable is the

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length of time of loaning out the 100,000 is the length of time of the loan. And so if it were going to be a 10-year loan, as is allowed, um that would be different, but five years is a relatively we're going to see the payback fairly fairly quick. Um and so

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that is one of the reasons why we feel more comfortable um as well as city administrator Wood who also reviewed all of this stuff before we put it forward. >> Sure. >> I had one more question. So, what is your timeline with or with these

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funds and then without them? >> Um, I would say our timeline probably isn't going to change. Um, we're going to figure out a way. You know, this whole process is about being creative. We're not people that are typically in a position to renovate and open a

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restaurant. >> Sure. >> We're doing this with the resources that we have. And one of the resources that we have right now is hopefully from the city that's kind of been excited about this project. Um, so I wouldn't say either way that it's going to change our timeline. We're going to we're going to

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find a way to do it. This just >> is going to really mitigate as much risk as possible because it is the number one, you know, most risky business to be in. >> Um, and as business people, we want to mitigate as much risk as possible. >> Sure.

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being real estate, what would you say qualifies as low for an interest rate? >> Um, I would say our our their recommendation was 3%, our recommendation is 0%. >> Of course. >> Absolutely. >> Yeah. Right.

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>> I mean, if we're looking I if you break it down just the interest, if we were to be at 0%, we know what the interest would be on that. It would be $1,700 a month coming back to you every month. Like she said, over time, that's going to add up within a year. that's going to add up really quickly for the next usage of it. Um, if you're at 1%, we're

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probably looking at uh $2,500 over the life of the loan. And then if we're at 3%, we're at almost eight grand over the life of the loan. So, >> yeah. And I think that obviously naturally with a lower interest rate, the fund rebuilds and it's there to be

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paid back, you know, be redistributed out to other things. So, how much do we want to do this? You know what I mean? I think it's there. We want to use it to grow. >> Stephanie, when's the last time that this was applied for? >> 2014. >> Think about that.

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>> Yeah. >> Well, right. But but that's the thing that and I'm I'm there's not a better candidate to receive this. If anybody's going to receive it, never mind the conditions. That's another conversation. There are not two better candidates or a better project to receive this than this.

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Agreed. >> Period. That's hands down local. They're not going anywhere. They're opening it. They're This project is celebratory. >> If president's passport all the time, >> 100%. And >> when's the creamy coming back? When's the crearyy? Even before they even

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bought it, people were >> I moved here in 2020 and I'm like, "What's the crearyy? That sounds fun." >> It was a legend. A >> pancakes. Dang it. Uh I'm I'm all for this. I uh but I think that when there's a little

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bit of publicity around that that we did this, people might come for it again. So I I know I I said prime plus one that is standard, but whatever makes the most sense to get the project done. Honestly, I I think when

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you really break that down to numbers, if it's going to help them, the city's going to be fine. I don't I personally, not that you can take this to the bank, have no concerns about a payback or being left with I think they're >> you know you look at they're they're

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looking at paying it back in half the time that it would normally be 10 years >> really you want to split worry about it 1% at that point we're going to get our money back faster. Yeah. >> Can I add one thing too we haven't mentioned um the way we see this and

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having these these funds that um are coming through the city too is I think when we met and talked about it at some point too we have ideas for future expansion and I think that this probably helps accelerate that too so that we can you know this project is just what's inside those walls inside the restaurant

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that's there. We also have the expansion of a patio seating that we're looking into and hopefully can get that going as soon as possible as well as that boiler room which will be 2,000 square feet of potential event space or extension of restaurant too. So >> cool.

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>> And those will impact our tax rate whether they wanted to or not. >> Does uh anybody else from the public have anything to say on this? Rebecca. Okay. >> Did you say 0%?

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>> Lower or zero. >> Well, I'm okay. We're still in public hearing, right? >> Yeah. Should we do you guys want to close the public hearing? Okay. We can we can close the public hearing then? >> Thank you guys. >> Yeah. Thanks, guys. >> Discussion.

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>> I make a motion to approve it at 3%. I I I if you're going to push it out 10 years, I can see pushing the higher interest rate, but their payback is shorter time. It's coming back. We haven't used this fund in 12 years. >> I'll second.

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>> Motion by Lundine, second by Miss Lee. All in favor of that motion. >> I >> I >> Any opposed? Motion carries 40 with one abstension. >> Sounds good. >> Congrats. >> Thank you. And thank you for being a valued business. I know. We're really

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excited about that. That's been a staple of Iani for a long time. So, >> one thing I want to say is you got a birthday boy sitting over here, too. >> It's your birthday today, too. >> Okay. We just gave you a heck of a birthday present, but pay it back. So, >> at council, I want to hold a moment of

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prayer from >> Yep. >> Okay. So, this will move to city council um at the next not tonight, but at the next meeting. Um, and we'll >> Is that all right with you guys or? >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> We'll have to draw up the documents. So,

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we won't be able to move it forward tonight. >> Well, we could still council could approve it and you can still do >> the documents back. Yeah. But >> if you're not in a twoe hurry. It's not Okay, sounds good. >> Yep. No problem. So, now we go

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>> taking that on and hearing the people. So, >> now we got some announcements. Miss Stephanie. Thanks, guys. Um, I just have a few announcements. Um, we did welcome Logan, our new community development summer assistant. And so, I know he's reached out to the mayor

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already to schedule the um, mayor's lunchon, which will be held July 22nd. Um, it'll now because of the LMC, so I think in here it might have said the 21st, but it's the 22nd. Um, and he's working on the invitations and food um,

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many orders with the mayor. And so we'll we're excited for that. We have a lot of good um long-term businesses that we're recognizing and he's also working on those new Facebook post recognizing them as well. Um commercial and residential development Wolf River Electric, we

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officially closed on that parcel finally. It took a long time, but um that is done. Um Fairway Greens North fourth edition, I believe their on-site construction activities have officially started this week. And so that's exciting to see that last phase happen

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there. Um the Iani Eye Clinic is officially under construction as well. We I've had a lot of random calls from people asking me what is going across from Dairy Queen. Is it the post office? And at this time, no, but um potentially

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will be going down the street. And then Centennial Apartments, the project is on track with tenant moveins currently projected for September 1st. So that's really exciting also to >> those over by the middle school. >> Yes. Okay. Yep. Um, and then I've been scheduling weekly business challenges

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for the roundabout construction project just for to build support and I think it's been wellreceived. So, we'll continue with that throughout that project and hopefully it's only a couple more weeks. I don't know what the update was today. Um, and then entrepreneur workshops. Today was another successful

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event. I'll say um summer's a little interesting to see how many people we have show up just with this nice weather. Nobody wants to be inside, but we still had a good 15 people there tonight. And um thanks to Keith Loscar, I standing liquor store manager, and Stephanie Edoff, as well as um from

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Willow Bridge for sharing their pricing structures, as well as the North Central um SBDC. And then we did get um approved for the Rev program. So I'm very excited to announce that um we were chosen by the initiative foundation

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um to for our project which is Iani County. So the city of Isani, city of Bram, city of Cambridge um the ECRDC, the North 65 chamber um local entrepreneur Brody Bachan was chosen by the committee to join us. Um I told him

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he just needs to give us 300 hours of his time to help with this. So, he was eager to do that. Um, >> happy birthday. >> And then, um, I did apply for an initiative foundation grant,

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um, which we're waiting to hear back on that for a market area profile, which needs to be updated because it hasn't been done since 21. And we've just had a lot of commercial growth happen here. Um and then also uh the child care coordinating council will be meeting on

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June 23rd to strategize for more um local child care shortage solutions. So if you know anybody who's interested in partnering with us on that, they should reach out to me and we they can attend the meeting. >> That's it. >> I had one question. Sorry. >> Yeah.

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>> Who is able to attend the mayor's lunchon? Um any I say any business. So this year specifically I'm making a point to reach out to all of our home occupation businesses which is about 20. Um but it's all of our local business owners

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and their employees are invited. So we have about 200 people who attend regularly. >> Registered business owners. >> Um yeah. So if you're a registered business owner, that's the only way we know you exist if you're a home occupation. So um yes. So, if they're registered, we're inviting you to join

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the mayor's lunchon, which I believe we did last year, too, actually. Um, yep. >> So, we try to >> to invite all of our businesses that we're aware of within the city limits. >> Sounds good. >> And their employees. >> It was a good turnout last year. So, >> I think last year was the first time I

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had ever >> we keep >> heard of it just because I saw it on the city page, but I I didn't know what it was. And up until >> the last few years, we've had record, I think, turnouts. every year we get a few more. So, it's great to see I think we do this really well in our community.

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So, um it's great to have an intern working on this that he's already called all of our local businesses um this year and he usually gets about they usually get about half the first time around and then he's recalling them this >> I've heard he was very nice on the phone. I've heard from a couple business owners now. So,

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>> good. >> Yeah. >> Cool. >> Um are elected and appointed officials allowed to attend the lunchon? Yeah, we've always welcomed all of our elected and appointed. You guys are all welcome to attend. Just let me know so I

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can post if we're going to have a um >> cool. >> I make a motion to adjurnn. >> Second. >> Motion from uh Lundine, second from Peterson to adjurnn. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries. We'll pick up city council in about two

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minutes. because the things aren't working that great for >> for the mine won't load attachments. No, it's usually cold in here. >> I'd rather have it hot. All right, it is 7 o'clock. We will call this city council meeting to order. If we could all rise for the pledge of

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allegiance. >> I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

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>> Doing roll call. All voting members are present. Uh we will open the floor for public comment. if there's any public comment this evening. I'll just remind you of a couple of the rules. Uh there's a threeminut time limit on public comment and council member Heman will have a one minute uh sign that he will show when there's one minute remaining

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in your public comment. We ask that please keep it to official city business, not personal or political attacks. Uh is there anybody this evening for public comment? Just come on up and just state your name and address for the record and thank you for coming in. >> Good evening, council, Mr. Mayor. My

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name is Morgan Fedora and my address is 2005th Avenue Northwest, apartment 4, Ianti, Minnesota 55040. >> Thank you. >> You're welcome. >> What I bring to you tonight is very serious nature. Um we have a severe

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problem at the corner of Main Street and Fifth um with the four-way stop. People are not stopping. They are not. With the diversion of the the construction, everything that's routed through Main Street comes down into this residential

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area. It's right across on the corner of Matson Park. We have tons of children. We have people walking their dogs. We've got children walking from school. And these people are not stopping. And I'm talking about five ton construction trucks like the one parked out here. I

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saw a a big crane um tow truck the other day. Blew right through it. I sit and count and I've and I can tell you out of 12 cars, 10 of them do not stop at all. The other two might roll through and every once in a while you get one who is

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actually stopping. This consus is a serious problem for everybody in that area. Now, I know that, you know, rerouting traffic with all the construction that's being done here on Heritage is is a nightmare for y'all, but there are things that we can do. The

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police department, I have notified them and they've been really great. They, you know, they're making they've up their patrols. They're aware of the problem, but we need to assist them. And that and a couple of ideas that I bring to you. One is on the stop signs themselves. Put the put the red lights that are that we

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see so that people have more of a warning. Put in a slow down sign. Children at play. These are things that can be done immediately. If you need, give me a camera. I'll sit there. I'll document it and give you all the license plates numbers and earn some money for the city. I mean, stop means stop, not

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roll through, not speed around the corner. That's the other thing. I've clocked people at doing 30 to 40 miles an hour. They think that Fifth Avenue is a speedway. They think that Main Street is a speedway going um east to Whiskey

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Road. That whole area in there, which is all residential, um you know, you've got one sidewalk. I was driving the other day going west on Main Street and a child about six years old came out of nowhere on a little motorbike. Somebody

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else would have hit him. So, that's the problem. and I please ask you to do something immediately with this situation. Help our police department because they're really great and they're doing everything they can. So, that's my business and thank you for your time and >> thank you.

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>> Yeah. So, >> thank you for coming in. I appreciate it. And uh Travis, I know we had talked about even before this construction started the the speed sign. Is that still out there on Main Street? And I think you had put it in that area, correct? >> Yeah, it's been Was it Third? No, it was

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out there up until Friday. So, since the construction went Friday and it's being charged, they'll probably go back out tomorrow. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> And did you happen to pull any data off that or or can you just to see? >> We can when I get it, I'll get it over to you just for information to see. I haven't even looked at it, but we did

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pull it off. Yeah. >> And then Josh, do we have flashing beacons that we can add to the to the stop sign like what like even just to take one of the construction ones like what they've done at the other stop lights or stop signs? orange flags >> or even orange flags, just something to get attention.

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>> We I don't think we have any flashing beacons, per se, but I know they're available. We can order some. >> Why don't you check and see how much they cost? >> Y >> is there anything immediate that you could put out there? Like, do you have any orange flags or anything that would catch eyes? I mean, I don't really care what the engineer says.

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>> I'm wondering if we can get some from like a lighting company faster, you know, because whoever does a detour sign, it's like for the county. They might be able to get some and set up. >> Okay. Yeah, that might be might be

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helpful. And I know that is that is a concern over there. I've gotten a couple and we've we have, you know, asked police to be over there more. Um and I wish people would slow down. We we fight this. It seems like every 3 or 4 months someone comes in with with speed issues. So, we try to kind of uh get it to not

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happen, but at the end of the day, I don't know how we completely stop it. I mean, I'm sure >> just anecdotally, I know that one in one >> twohour shift, one of our officers wrote 11 stop sign violations. >> Awesome. >> For that. Okay. >> The point being is that's for that two

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hours. What about the 22 hours outside of that? >> Sure. >> Maybe we can put a like Travis was saying a stop sign in the middle of the road there. >> Right. >> A 10th one. >> That would be great. Or I was thinking even just even just something that says like road construction just so that people slow down. You have that. We've

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talked about that before like you have a like a lane narrowing thing that forces people to slow down like something creative like that. You'd probably have to run it by Jason. I mean I don't I personally don't care if you put a little stop. >> Yeah. But something >> that intersection as well as credit union those are the two issues. >> Yep.

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>> It's huge. And the amount of traffic there. And even just at 6:30 there was rush hour traffic that took 5 minutes to get from credit union drive to here. >> Yep. >> Yes. >> Those people do not stop at that fourway stop.

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>> How much is a is a stop sign running a stop sign or what what does a ticket cost? >> It's I probably guessing somewhere in the 150 to 70. >> Oh, >> it's it's it's hefty. >> Yeah, it's hefty. The issue is it's like with all these traffic issues is

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>> like we had that was one day I know they wrote other but one day was 11 in two hours but it's you know what about the other 22 hours it only >> No, I appreciate that. I was just thinking we should do it every day and people will quickly learn. I mean there are towns that you you don't speed through because you just know that they

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ticket heavier but that is a really hefty ticket. >> So what about this? I mean, this might not be favorable, but if you did 11 in two hours, what would the overtime cost be to have someone just sit out there the whole time? Would that be offset?

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I don't Maybe that's super unpopular or super unfavorable, but you got to ask. >> It would take people about six hours to figure it out and then you'd have zero tickets. >> Sure. >> Yeah. And I wouldn't I wouldn't uh justify overtime based on tickets written. That just sounds like a protocol. >> Sure. >> Yeah.

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>> Okay. I'm sure this will settle down after the construction is done. >> Oh, right. Right. >> You know, I'm a retired first responder and let me tell you, going to an accident with a decapitation of a child. >> Sure.

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>> Right. >> But even on Sunday, And and again, we we try to do the best we can. We even have like our cso or other officers sitting on Main Street who can't do enforcement just for the visibility trying to help that out. But

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with neighborhood traffic issues, it's the immediiacy, right? People are going to they follow the rules and the teacher's looking. >> Yeah. >> But when the teacher leaves the room, they're back to chaos. >> Sounds good. Well, we have to end this public comment. Um, but I'll I'll talk to Josh and Travis and we'll figure I'm

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sure you guys can figure something out. Uh, maybe if you have to get Jason involved, so be it. So, I appreciate you coming in. I really do. Thank you for the input. >> Thank you for your time. >> You're welcome. Anybody else for public comment tonight? >> I'd like to add something. Um, I'd like to have a moment of silence for previous

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council member Paul Bergley. He was an asset to this community and he had in his passing has happened within the last what week, week and a half, something like that. So I if you all don't mind, uh Paul put a lot of time into the city

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chamber of commerce plus his chiropractic business. It broke my heart to see so many people say he lost it because of this or that on Facebook and it's and I knew why he had closed his business. It's because that he had

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terminal cancer. So, um it just goes to show you sometimes things on Facebook aren't really what they are. It's people feeding into them. And so with that, I'd like to have a moment

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of silence for Paul. Thanks everybody. >> Well said, Steve. Thank you. >> Anybody else for public comment tonight? >> Can I ask real quick, are there big signs through the construction company that say stop sign ahead? I mean, we all know there's a stop sign ahead, but

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>> I think when you're in the hustle and bustle and sitting in the traffic, I think human behavior says, "Oh, we just don't need to stop for it." So, I I whatever. Okay. >> Whatever we can do. >> Yeah. >> I talked to someone at the county and from my understanding the actual signs that have the integrated lights are something like $2,000.

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>> Oh, those are expensive. Yeah. >> But you can get the inside the orange flash, you need a red flasher, and that's what the county has been putting along Palm and uh >> Five over there. And I feel like those are probably a lot more viable. And then also you can retransplant them where around if you have other problem areas when you need them.

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>> Sure. I like the flags. I think the flags work pretty good too. I know they like the county changed the speed limit out here uh across the bridge. Do you guys see those? >> I think on County Road 9 they put some that spin with the wind and they're reflective >> and they mount them right on top of the

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stop signs. I've seen them as well. I've seen that where they sit there and spin. Actually, even in the sun, it it kicks back. I mean, I've noticed it right away. >> And have you guys do you guys remember in Cambridge when they put in that stop sign there by Quick Trip and Menards? They put the flags up there and I think

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it caught a lot of people's eyes like, "Oh, new stop sign." >> I do like the idea of maybe putting a temporary one right in the middle. They did that for a while there as well. >> Okay. >> One thing, >> that's a good idea, too. Like a stop sign right in the middle. That was good. >> One thing I would like to say that we should look forward moving forward like

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Railroad Avenue. We knew I knew Nick. You knew that was all coming. We all knew that was coming. When >> you know how many calls I got that day? What the heck? It's closed now. I knew

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it was starting, but I didn't know when. I think that we should start looking at getting some signs that says road will be closed going, you know, those dates you can change on those signs. I think we should do that. >> We all knew it was coming, but when

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>> Yeah. And I know there's a big push on Facebook, but not everybody has Facebook. >> I don't know that we had a set date though with the railroad because it was on them. It was up to they were >> knew about two weeks ago. >> Yeah, they knew. >> Did they have a solid start date though? I thought it was kind of a range, not a >> No, no, they had a pretty solid state

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because we actually have to tag on to that work at the same time, >> right? >> And I did see the something in the Facebook page later that night. I don't always see those reels. You get so many different videos that post. I don't see them for three, four days till after the

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fact. So, I I I just think and there's a lot of people that come into town, come through town, people that are visiting, you know, all of a sudden it catches them blindsided. I just think that that's something that we should probably look forward to doing. >> It's a good idea. >> And it's something that we could you buy

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it once and you you buy once, cry once, right? Then you can change the dates on change the dates or >> I don't know if there's anything else we could use a sign like that for. I mean, do how about just would it be beneficial to have one of those little black signs that some businesses use and we could use it for events and for road closures like something that kind of kills two

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birds with one stone? Use some EDA money on like a sign like that or >> Well, you know, you have the construction signs where you can have the dates be changeable. >> See, like like if you have road closed signs, they could put them up on Main Street for the rodeo parade, the Jubilee

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days, and they can always change that date. >> Okay. Yeah. and it's not something that would be just tossed aside. >> So maybe have Josh come back with if he can look into that and find a couple ideas maybe that you think would be helpful for you because I'm sure you do you feel those types of complaints too or questions. So

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>> yeah, I can look into what options there are for those kind of signs. >> Okay, >> sounds good. >> Motion to adopt the agenda. >> Second. >> I got to close the public comment. >> I thought you already did. >> Nope. >> Okay, >> Rebecca, do you have anything for public comment? Okay, then we'll close the

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public comment. Now we'll move on to adopting the the agenda. Are there any changes? >> Nope. Okay. >> Motion stands. >> Second. >> Motion by Peterson, second by Lundine. All in favor say I. >> I. Any opposed? >> Uh motion carries. 5-0. The agenda is

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adopted. >> Um next we we will move on to the approval of the city council meeting minutes. We'll first approve the May 19th committee of a whole minutes. Are there any questions? Motion to approve. >> Second. >> Motion by Lundine, second by Heman. All

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in favor say I. I. Any opposed? >> Motion carries. 5-0. Next, the city council meeting minutes. And I do have something. I'd like to just add a clarification to business item one. Um that I that I voted nay on the rodeo permit because I think it needed more discussion about police overtime. I

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would just like to add that to that. Otherwise, it all looked good to me. Motion to approve a change. >> Second. >> Motion by Lundine, second by Zidon. All in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed?

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>> Motion carries. 5-0. Uh, next announcements. Committee of a whole meeting, Tuesday, June 16th, 2026 at 5:00 p.m. Planning Commission meeting, Tuesday, June 16th, 2026 at 6 p.m. City Council meeting, Tuesday, June 16th, 2026 at 7 p.m. Uh, city hall will be

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closed for Junth, the federal holiday, f Friday, June 19th, 2026. The park and rec board meeting will be Tuesday, June 23rd, 2026 at 6 p.m. Uh, we have the open slot in our agenda for county communic county communications, but there's nobody from the county here

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tonight. Um, so we will move on to council committee reports. Anybody have any? >> The fire district >> have at it. >> Uh, so they had another applicant come in after we had approved two applicants

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so that we made a amendment to allow a three to move forward. Um, because there had been one resignation from someone who had started last year and just finished fire one. Um, there was an air conditioner repair for station one. Uh they requested roof repair for station

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one but only had one bid. So we requested additional bids on that. Um station two needs a dehumidifier. They have an room that doesn't have any air flow. So it's starting to build mold inside. >> So that's proceeding forward and they're going to try and do some abatement for

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the existing mold once that is addressed. >> You said that's station three. Is that what he says? >> For the dehumidifier. Yes. Station two. >> Station two. Okay. >> Okay. Thank you. Um, I went to the park and wreck and a lot of the conversation revolved around

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the fundraising task force and where that information should be brought to and whether it's to the park and wreck or to city council first. Um, whether members were entertaining being part of it. Um, but otherwise it was just different swings

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and different ideas of the parks and the gardens are going really well. There's a couple spots still open, but otherwise a lot of good good stuff. >> Sure. And I did have one park board member show up to uh the most recent meeting. So that's awesome. And there's another What's that? >> Was it Benjamin? >> Nope.

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>> Oh, was Ted. >> Okay. >> Yep. And then another one uh Hinning Camp said that he would like to come to some, so I'll keep him included on the loop. And our group is really wellrounded right now. We had a great a great group of I believe there's seven there last week. Again, it's, you know, one from Illuminate Iani Group, one from

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the park board, obviously me from city council. Um, there's somebody that works for a school district. Um, there's somebody else that's a realtor. Uh, there's a video guy. Like, we're we got a really good group and I'm super excited about uh the progress we're making and how I think this is really

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going to come together and we're going to set an example for other cities and communities to maybe try and do something similar and just leverage, you know, the grassroots style, um, fundraising hopefully. Nice. >> Who's the video guy? >> Uh, I don't know if I should say yet. >> Okay.

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>> Yeah, it's a secret. >> We'll see. I don't I don't want to put him out there if he doesn't. >> No. Very true. >> Yep. >> Um, anybody else for committee reports? >> Okay. Well, I have a few. So, the Chamber of Commerce, they hosted a

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networking event this month, or last month, I should say. I talked to a couple business owners about the the said park fundraising uh committee that we had started. Um and uh some people have been excited about that. I've had a few businesses reach out and we're starting a list of businesses that are interested in potentially being

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involved. Uh that fundraising committee has met a handful of times. Uh we're making good progress with lots of good creative ways to raise money for the parks. Uh if any business is interested in being involved in the future of our city parks, please reach out to me. Uh we'll have unique advertising opportunities available and it's I think

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it's just going to be great. Uh the county board meeting this morning, uh they talked about the opioid grant funded program. Uh they certified nine people in opioid recovery programs. Uh the sheriff's office swore in a new deputy, Deputy Gavsy. I know they've been looking for a while to fill a slot, so I'm happy that they were able to do

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that. Uh they also gave three officers and three citizens life-saving honor awards for their service and saving an individ an individual who was in cardiac arrest. Uh one of those three officers was actually the newly signed officer, Officer Gavsy. So I thought that was pretty cool. Uh construction of County Road 5 from

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Highway 65 uh eastbound to CASAW 12. County Road 12 is scheduled for mid July most likely. Uh the timeline on that is expected to be between four and 6 weeks. Um so that will be a major uh in infrastructure improvement that'll also

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include our center pedestrian beacon medians rescue island or whatever they wanted to call that at the time. Um, and the road will still be open for traffic during almost the entirety of the project, but it'll be, you know, limited, slow. You know, you'll have workers that are waving people through,

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I assume. Um, so that'll be coming in, uh, mid July most likely after the rodeo. They have that stipulated. So, uh, the Cambridge I school district, uh, last month's meeting, I spoke during the public comment about the volunteer group that I formed for the schools. I've been waiting to hear back from the school

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district's volunteer coordinator so we can arrange a meeting to talk about how to implement that. I want to thank the Cambridge Iani Soccer Club, Northern Lights Toys, and Quickrip who all operate Nani and donated to the schools last month. Uh the schools also talked about their strategic plan a bit. Uh but

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otherwise there wasn't much else to report back from that meeting. The Arts and Science Academy, uh they had a pretty rough school year financially with an with an operating deficit of over $800,000. um they had to make some cuts to their budget to get more on track and I want to commend them for

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their hard work and be able to cut out uh almost $900,000 out of their budget for next year uh so they can hopefully finish next year outside of the red. Um and I'm I I'm just really impressed that they were able to do that instead of uh you know digging themselves in a a deeper hole. They really uh were

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responsible with their their allocated money for next year. And I'm I'm really proud of the work that they had to restruct restructure some stuff and uh they had to get creative. So, >> age out or opt out or >> uh opted out. Some people moved um like

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they every month they go through and they talk about you know one person left they went to Itasa school district or they kind of they talk about where they go um briefly some people go to uh the public school they switch to that. I think it seems to be more common in the older ages that, you know, the the arts

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and science academy uh seems to retain them well in the younger years, but then as the kids get older, I don't know if the kids want to go to the high school and be more active or social or what that is, but that seems to be the trend that most of the the unenrollment seems to be in the older students generally.

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>> Thank you. >> Yep. Any other questions or uh council committee? All right. and we'll move on to item K1, request for quail to be permitted in city code. >> Um, good evening, mayor and councel. Um, this was brought back as requested um to

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city council regarding adding quail to the um ordinance as a permitted animal. Um, you had requested a little more information from the applicant and that is in the packet. Um, still within the packet are the um neighboring

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communities, we'll say, um, and what they're allowing um, for quail, what they some the ones that don't allow it. Um, the request is for 100 quail to be allowed um, in just a residential district. Um, I do not see the person

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making the request here tonight, but um, we did want to bring this forward as requested. From this point, whatever is recommended by the council, we'll work on putting together the ordinance um as it fits within our ordinance and then bring that back to you. We'll have to

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post it for the required 10 days and do all of the statutory items. >> Sure. So, she had originally requested 50 and I know she had said the racing pigeons were 100. I think she still wanted to be at 50, but that was a little confusing. Um I guess I would I I

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said this in the first meeting personally. I would rather see us if we're going to consider something like this, we do a conditional use permit to try it out first. Um that way like if there is a significant issue, we don't have city code that's you know like kind of binding like I I guess I

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don't know. But that's my opinion. If if we consider to do a a change to our ordinance, I think we really got to narrow it down quite a bit more than 50. Um there's I've talked to a bunch of people that have quail and uh there are a couple that said they should not be allowed in the city at all. Um there

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have been a reason >> noise especially the males apparently but uh then I've talked to a couple that said they're they're relatively quiet like a chicken. So I think we should have a more reasonable I think 50 is a

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lot of quail. >> Subreeds of quail that are louder than >> Yes. So, the the kind that she wants is the quiet the quietest of the varieties. But even still, like my uh one of my buddies, he had he had a bunch of the same variety and he said they they would get louder than his chickens.

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So, that's just something to consider. I think if you you know, if you chat GPT or research it, they are generally quieter than chickens. >> Um but I don't know. We don't know. We've never been in that territory. So, I would hate to make a a mistake, you know. So what I what I had said if you

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know or thought if we were going to do a not a conditional use permit we we kind of limit it based on acreage. I >> um because you know you have if you have a bigger lot you're probably less disturbing to your neighbors you know. So my rough numbers here is 20 kale 20

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quail with a 2 mil max for lot sizes under 1/3 acre. Um 30 with three male max for 1/3 to 1 acre and 50 with five male max over an acre. That's what I thought, but that's totally shooting from the hip. >> Wait, say those again so I can rhyme down.

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>> Sure. So, 20 quail with two male max for lot sizes under one third. >> Okay. >> 30 with three male max for 1/3 to 1 acre. >> And 50 with five male max for over an

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acre. And then you could also pair it down and say, you know, you could we would have it be a combination. So if you have, say you have a chicken, well maybe you subtract three or four quails per chicken that you have. So that that way we people aren't having the maximum amount of chickens and the maximum

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amount of quail just to see how it goes, you know, because we we want to give people the option, but we also don't want it to affect their neighbors. Yeah, Nick, >> as far as the ratio, I was talking to Chief Myers and he was talking about there being animal units. So >> yeah, the animal unit conversation would be interesting. So, as far as like

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versus what the trade-offs would all be between like honeybees, racing pigeons, quail, and all that, like if there's already standardization, then maybe applying that would be >> so applying animal units to all of our animal ordinances >> versus if you had max racing pigeons,

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max chickens, max ducks, max >> that's a whole lot of animal, >> which I don't know if there's anything in there that prevents you from just having everything to the to the max. The animal unit idea is kind of an interesting one because then say a horse is one full animal. I don't know what it is, but then you have a chicken is 130th

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of a horse or you know what I mean? Like that would be interesting to see. I haven't seen that model though. >> Maybe we should look at that too. But if if we did this ordinance, I think we should also base it on coupe size. Um quail like to be in coops more than they do outside like chickens like to roam more.

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>> Okay. So I I would >> the proposal was fully full fully enclosed all the time and it has to add one square foot per animal >> and I'd go two square foot per quil and that will help keep the >> I mean it's just like talking the mayor

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about this prior to the meeting. >> I don't care if they're this big. You put 50 things this big and then you have another 15 chickens on top of that, your whole yard is fenced in >> full of animals.

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>> And I was in downtown St. Paul today and I was in a guy's basement working, cutting, hammering, and the neighbor has like 10 chickens. I could hear them things clucking even through all the noise and it's not even in the same

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house or the yard. I mean, it's it's it's fine. I understand that. But I think the limitation needs to be just like when she was in here. 50. That's a lot. And I've had numerous

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people call me about this since that last meeting and said that's absurd. I I I kind of think the mayor's got on a kind of a a good kick and I agree with the, you know, per square foot I it's we

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have to put a limitation on it like I said but where do we stop with all this >> right? It was it was chickens. Okay. You know what Minneapolis St. Paul they allow chickens in their yards. I don't know why we couldn't. They're a heck of

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a lot bigger than we are. Then it was turkeys. Then it was ducks. Now it's quails. Next going to be goats. Next thing it's going to be sheep. Then it's going to be horses. Then it's going to be cows. I hate to tell you if you want all that move out in the comic. >> I I like his idea and if we do it we do

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and or >> so you can have chickens or quail. You can't have both or you can if we have Yeah. >> Otherwise, like you made a great point. They could just >> max out >> max out everything. Yeah. >> And animal units is a good way to put it because then if what if what if somebody

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just wants three quail and then they want three chickens like you you can't say and or because three quail and three chickens is like nothing. You know what I mean? So I think the animal units idea is a good one, >> but they're the same purpose pretty much the same purpose. >> Well, some people, >> yeah, but we shouldn't be dictating or

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saying what people >> like if they want to have three quail and three chickens, we shouldn't say and or we should do it based on a like a tangible mathematical metric that nobody can. >> And I think before we go any further and with this, I think we need to get some more information on animal units. And I

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think we need to put a limitation on. I don't even want to hear horses and cows and pigs and and sheep and that that that I don't even think that's even feasible. We're we're allowing the ducks. We're allowing the >> chickens. Now we're talking about quail.

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>> You know, uh you know, bees. >> I'm around bees all day long when I'm working outside. But I never want to put myself in the position to have a neighbor living next to me and me have beehives and that child be allergic to bees or that person be allergic to bees.

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I don't want I I've always stated that from the get-go. I don't They're here naturally. I'm not going to start one and then be that problem. >> I see what you did there. Be that problem. >> Yeah. Be that problem. >> Do we We don't allow bees, do we? Yes, we do.

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>> I can't remember. They're in the >> Yeah, it's like like a few pages. >> Oh, an R1A. Okay. Yeah, >> we do allow a few animals in R1A. Um or >> insects, >> but it says it must have R1, R1, R2,

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>> more than 30 acres. Their neighbors not being affected, but these are different >> and it depends on Yeah. what your acreage is generally like we allow horses in R1A only, but it's 20 acres or more. So, >> so my only concern is

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the two males, the three males, the five males. >> Um, and I I know like we hatch chickens at school and then we're like, "Here you go." And no one knows what they are until about I don't if it's 3, six months later um when it when you can

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distinguish a male versus a female. Um, and I do know that the male chickens are the fowls are very loud. Are these quailes or whatever. Um, but I I like that the 20 I'm a little concerned about the two. >> Um,

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>> the two males and >> the two males like we are like on the roosters cuz they're loud. Yep. >> Um, and I just worry about the filth. >> Sure. >> That could possibly come with someone who is not a good caretaker. Um because

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chickens are gross. So um not gross, messy. >> And and that is what we discussed when we increased the number of chickens two years ago was the amount of you know extrement. Yeah. Waste >> that um >> there's a potential for if we allow too

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many and we don't have >> many of the parcels within our community don't allow for you to have adequate space for storage correctly of this. Yeah. >> Um, so just keeping that into consideration as well. >> Yep. I guess I am concerned about

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quailes plus chickens because if we don't somehow pull them together, if we don't call them fowls or something, um, >> sure I would not be happy if someone had 50 of one and 20 of another and there was all kinds of squawking. >> Yeah, it can't be additive. I think you

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have to come up with some sort of solution like if you every chicken you have four less quail or three less quail. Like if you do the math, it's >> see and I'm just me and I'm like have one or the other or just make a tally of 20 and that's what you get. You get what you get.

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>> But then you could have people with 20 chickens. So would the tally just be our current ordinance? Would is that 10 or 12? >> 10 for under three acres, 20 for more than three acres. I mean, we could >> that would that would be easy that you just say you can have 10 fowl or for

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under three acres or 20 fowl, but then it's it's a little limiting to people that want quail. You know, quail are small and take up a lot less animal units than uh than a chicken. >> I like to have something that that specifically says what an animal unit

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is, right, and what it consists of. Can we see if maybe that's a good direction to have them see if there's an ordinance or does like the state have something like that Travis or do you know where we could get like is that standardized across everywhere >> based on weight? >> Okay.

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>> Yep. So generically 200 250 chickens equal one unit and 1300 to 3,000 quail equal one unit. >> And what is a horse? One unit or a cow? Yeah. And then a cow calf is bigger, I think.

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>> Okay. We be talking one units. >> But at least it gives you the comparison, right? What one's equal to others because in theory, you know, your excrement of a 100 pound goat is onetenth of a,000b

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horse. >> Sure. So maybe maybe we break it down like that and just do animal units in general. Google search animal limit. It's a standard >> a lot of communities even outlined within the table that's before you does

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just have a fowl limit. >> Sure. Y >> and so which which really which includes both quail and chickens and other fowl um that are allowed. So even if we said

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we're going to name them fowl, but we only allow quail and chickens within our the only ones that would be allowed. So >> can we allow ducks? >> Yes. >> Yes. >> So that's another false >> and include ducks. >> Yes. >> Have we had any complaints on

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chickens or ducks or anything other than maybe one getting loose >> in my neighborhood? Yes. >> Yeah, we've had rooster complaints. M roo >> that's usually the only complaints that I can think of that are more common are the loud rooster complaints which we can't have

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>> right that's an easy one to enforce >> is it though easier than a >> it's not too hard to enforce because >> okay >> if they have a rooster in there you stand there you can hear it >> we allow roosters under the ordinance so

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yeah what happens is they order them from a hatchery and >> yeah, you order 10 chickens and you don't know what you're getting. Get rid of it. And and the the ones I can think of are voluntary compliance, not an issue. You know, the neighbors complain, we deal with it, and the rooster

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>> goes into soup. I don't know. >> How many ducks do we allow? >> Uh, two for under three acres, four for over three acres. >> I just had to look a little bit further. I guess it would be nice to clear it up because we've got ducks, we've got quails possibly, we've got chickens,

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we've got, you know, and if I don't know if someone else is more creative, they want geese. Um >> I think the animal units is the way to go. >> Yeah, but you So you want a thousand quail? >> No, no, no, no, no. You wouldn't go you wouldn't go a full unit. You'd have to figure out. >> But like I'm saying though, you go by

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animal units. And if you go by what that says in an animal unit, >> that's an animal unit. You can do like acres time acres time 01 equals the amount of animal units or something like that. The amount of animal units you're allowed and then you go and you put that into whatever you're seeking. And

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>> so here's here's the way to look at it. How much does an average chicken weigh? How much does an average quail weigh? >> Chicken. >> That's what the animal units takes into account. >> But I'm what I'm saying is right now we're allowing 12 chickens. Correct. >> 10 10

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>> 10 chickens. >> 10 or 20 depending on the lot size. So if if you have we'll just say let's just make it simple 10. So a chicken weighs 2 lbs. Quail weighs a pound.

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So you could say we allow up to 10 fowl per that weight size. So you got so >> 20 >> you could have 20 quail or 10 chickens. plain and simple, right? End of discussion. I mean, it's you're going by

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weight, size, size of the bird. >> I don't disagree with that, but I don't want you to turn around and say an animal unit because that next person that walks in the door says this is what an animal unit is. It It's confusing to

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somebody else. >> Okay. >> I I would also just say that we would have to consider what animals we're considering in the animal unit. like would we like domesticated dogs, cats, like what's included in the animal unit?

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And we do have different um you know processes already in place for the number of dogs. If you have a kennel um then you three or more then you have to get a license from Travis. So just I think >> I don't think we have a cat policy

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>> from a enforcement standpoint. I think it'd be easier for us to to group together fowl versus do an animal unit just >> and are racing pigeons in fowl? >> I think they're in a different category in itself.

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>> So just on animal units you have one chicken is equivalent to six to six and a half quail on the animal unit >> basis. So >> there you go. Limited at six quail equal

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one chicken. >> Mhm. >> So if she's already got 10 chickens, well, you're going to have, if you want, you know, you're going to have to get rid of some chickens and quails to balance this. >> Yeah. Get rid of one chicken and now you can have six quail. >> Yep. For every chicken you get rid of,

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you can get one quail or six quail for every chicken. That that is the simplest thing. I think the racing pigeons is a little different story because I think that was more in a larger acreage, was it not?

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>> Yes. I believe it's only allowed in R1A. >> Yeah. So that's taking we can't take this is a quarter acre lot, >> right? you know, and all of a sudden you got 15 sheds in this quarter acre lot and now you have no you have no

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water runoff. You now you've defe depleted that whole thing because I'll tell you what, you go into somebody's yard that's got chickens in there and if they don't take care of it, they ain't got much of a yard. It's nothing but dirt. >> They like to dig. >> Yep. So now that erosion issue becomes

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another problem. M >> so I think that we should maybe just make that determination. >> It's 6 and a half coil to each chicken. >> But that is but now that's another problem. If that's the case that's 60 quil, >> right?

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>> And just looking at city they define their own animal unit, >> right? So they're saying >> 20 fowl in theirs is one animal unit. So I mean you can come up with but I think the easiest one is come up with your own animal unit. That way, that way you can

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combine whatever you want and you can say that >> a quail is or 10 quail or whatever you want to come up with. It doesn't have to be the standardized animal unit, but use that animal unit terminology. Then it' be valid across ducks, chicken, pigeons, quail. Sure.

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>> Come up with your own in the ordinance. >> Okay. Yeah. Own matrix type of thing. >> Yep. Your own matrix. That way you don't need to >> And because I'm new to this, like can we do a trial period? Can we allow 25 to start and see how it goes and see if

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there's complaints or I mean she's the first person to ask for it. Is that is that city or I I don't know these questions or answers. >> I I would say we could start the lower we start the better to allow and then it's easier for us to add more difficult

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for us to reduce because their grandfathered in at that point. Even with right now if we have somebody with 10 chickens or nine chickens and we decided to you know allow six they could

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have six quail then in addition in play if you're doing it that way. Um >> I'd say we limit it to 10 chickens and no more than 25 quail. >> That means no chickens and just 25

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quail. And then it's 10 chickens. >> You no more than 10 chicken. >> No more to exceed 25 fowls. >> No, cuz then you've clumped >> because you call the chicken a foul. At that point, you got to cap it at 10 chickens. 25 coil.

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You do kind of do the math. They went down to five chickens. You go down to 10 quail. I >> just don't want to do funny math. >> Well, I mean, it's it's just drawn out and that's it. I mean, there's it the

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like you said, the whole problem is the next thing you know, their whole yard is full of fowl and it's going to be pretty foul smelling as a neighbor. >> You're full of puns tonight, Steve. >> I mean, it's this is thing is going to be you could we could beat this thing to

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death for 20 years. I mean, we we went back and forth for a long time. >> We went back forth a long time on this chicken thing. Then all of a sudden it was the ducks. >> Then it was geese and then bees. And it's like, oh my god. I said we got to

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stop allowing everybody to have everything they want. So, if I may, >> yeah, >> I would I would say for this specific issue, do the conditional use permit, see what happens, but then I think we should do an exchange rate or animal units thing going forward with the other

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stuff to make things >> agreed >> drive better. >> So, with the conditional use permit, Stephanie, does that cost how much does the cost on that or is >> I believe a conditional use permit is $275. >> Okay. And this isn't necessarily in zoning

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ordinance either. So this is would >> most of the items in conditional use that require conditional use permits are in the zoning ordinance. This is just in our regular ordinance. Okay. >> So I wouldn't recommend going that route. I' just then we might as well create a different permit

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>> um just like we have for dogs. Um, but we allow currently two ducks on less than three acres and four ducks on more than three acres. And we allow 10 chickens on less than three acres and 20 on more than three acres.

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And so I would my suggestion would be to stick with that terminology so that it's easy across the board. um so that it makes sense so that when we're looking at these um we can limit it the same as what we're already doing for our other animals just so then we don't have to re

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reinvent the entire ordinance to match something else. But um if we're going to start doing animal units then it'll take us a lot longer to implement something just because we'll we'll have to repeal all of these sections that we already have this entire section. Wouldn't the

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problem with that be though if they have max of everything then if if it's about trying to maintain or keep excrement under control and the odor and not be a nuisance then if all these things are individual you can just stack them all up. >> Correct. So that's what I would say on

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more than three acres right now we allow 20 20 chickens and four ducks and so I would say suggest unless you want to go to like the fowl thing which would be

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easier to implement. um animal units would take us longer for sure because it involves not just fowl, it involves a lot more poundage, everything else. Um so it would take us longer probably to figure out how that would look, but my

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suggestion would be to simplify it to do under three acres, more than three acres as you originally suggested. They would be able to stack, but then you really have to be mindful about how many you want. So that's our that's our easiest

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way to to um enforce it also I believe. So >> I don't know that we should I appreciate what you're saying but I don't know that we should necessarily take the easiest way if it could set us up for a situation where Steve's neighbor just hypothetically comes in two ducks 10

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chickens 25 quail 100 racing pigeons. Like neighbors are not going to be happy about the all this stacking. So I think if we can figure out a way to other than just the limiting the fowl like what do we what would we just say just 10 fowl because otherwise >> yes that's what I would say that's what

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other cities are doing they're saying 10 fowl for under three acres or they're saying 25 fowl for over three acres and so then they just choose what they want at that point >> but 10 quail isn't even really worth having.

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I know that's kind of sad for >> Yeah, that's >> But Cambridge allows six. >> North Branch allows 10. Whoa. No, for one acre, we're talking about a person who has a one less than one acre lot. Correct. 1/4. So in North Branch, they

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include five. >> What are they stacking at with the chickens besides? >> No, because they are foul. I mean, we are talking about I don't >> I say we look at it again later. We're just >> Atlantis. Minnesota Pollution Control

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Agency has a spreadsheet that shows animal units and it doesn't cover quail, but it it at least provides a lot of stuff to go off of. And then we've had people complain about having too many dogs in a home. We can also incorporate dogs in that too and then address that from that way too.

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There's always been a dog rule >> and it's not always breaking. >> So maybe do we bring this back to a cow meeting? >> I'd like to. >> We actually we need we need to make sure we're researched and we we can look at this and we can have a a discussion with

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I think if we want to consider the the animal units, if we want to consider whatever, just come back with the discussion and be prepared. And we need to hash out square feet of enclosed floor space per bird. Otherwise, they could try to put them in a used dog

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house or something and cram 40 birds in a small area. You can't do that. You should have at least two feet per bird >> regardless of the bird >> for uh >> per bird for quail. I mean, you can you can get away with

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one or one and a half, but because everything's close together, these houses, I would go. >> How much your chickens need? Was it four or five? >> I don't know what we have on chicken. >> I motion we bring this back to call. >> We require 15 square uh no more than 15

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square feet per chicken. >> Okay. >> So, we limit the size and amount. >> There's a motion to bring this back for discussion to cow. Is there a second? >> Second. Motion by Lundine, second by Peterson. All in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion carries. 5-0.

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So, we're bringing the animals back to cow. Nice. >> All right. Uh, item K2, resolution to consider approving a special event permit for Rum River Rods. You know, I would like to say having been attendant of their club shows for probably 15 years now, I'm really excited for this every year. I think it's great for

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downtown Sani and having it paired with our uh our street dance is awesome. Uh it appears based on the what I see here that they're potentially using a little bit more of First and Avenue, First and Second Avenue this year for parking. Um

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do is that I assume that's because of the the small lot change with the Serenity Circle property. I I didn't see mentioned in there that they'll be using that or not. Um, do you know if that's different than usual because I don't think they usually park that far down on

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first and second? >> Yeah, I don't know if they've always gone quite that far, but I don't know that anybody was controlling him and not letting them go that far anyway. >> Sure. >> Do you anticipate any problems? I I mean, I wouldn't think so, but

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>> I don't really see any problems with it now. >> Okay. >> I think they anticipate it being bigger than normal. So, >> that's great. I hope it is. Well, that's why it was brought up that way. >> Sure. Okay. >> So, I make a motion to approve. >> Second. >> Motion by Londine, second by Peterson.

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All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? >> Motion carries. 5-0. Thank you to the RER rods. Uh resolution to consider approval of a conditional use permit for 687 East Duo Boulevard Northeast. >> Good evening again, mayor and council. Pump Republic Gym has submitted a conditional use permit application to

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expand their existing fitness gym at 687 East Duel Boulevard Northeast into their adjacent suite B. The property is zoned I1 Industrial and does require a conditional use um in this location. We have not heard any complaints about their current location. Um and the

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planning commission did recommend approval at the public hearing held last month. >> You know, it's great to see business expanding. think this is their second expansion in like six or eight months. That's really exciting and I know the community is very uh very happy about

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that new big gym. So, I'm excited for them. >> Make a motion to approve. >> Second >> motion by Lundine, second by Peterson. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? >> Motion carries. 5-0. Uh item K4, ordinance to consider amending chapter

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160, enumeration of fees, building fees. >> Good evening again. This is the proposed amendment to the building permit and service fee schedule administered by Round River. This was has been discussed quite a few times this year. Um and we've made all the um adjustments as we

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discussed um at the last meeting. They've been posted for 10 days and they're they're here for your approval. >> I make a motion to approve. I'll second. >> Motion by Lundine, second by Heman. All in favor say I. >> I.

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>> All opposed. Motion carries. 5 Z. Well, I'm happy we made it through that faster than I expected, Stephanie. Look at Okay. Uh item K5, ordinance to consider amending chapter 350 zoning to include

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all frainous species ash trees on the prohibited tree list. >> Good evening again, mayor and council. This is for um ash trees, remove adding them to the prohibited tree list. They're currently not allowed on the allow permitted tree list, but this

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would really solidify that they're prohibited within our city limits. As we discussed, people get trees in all sorts of different ways. And though they're not generally sold, somebody could find one in their backyard at their farm and plant it within the city limits. And we want the authority to be able to say

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that's not allowed. And so this this does that. And so, um, this was approved for recommendation by the planning commission at the recently held public hearing and, um, is now up for your approval. >> Make a motion to approve. I'll second.

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>> Motion by London, second by Heman. All in favor say I. >> I. Any opposed. Motion carries. 5-0. And I would just like to make a note. I'd like to give a reminder to residents that the city of Iani has partnered with the University of Minnesota uh for an innovative research study to hopefully save the ash trees in the city of Isani

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and pave the way for potential treatment options with the Minnesota native fungi. If anybody's interested in potentially having their tree as a control or a treatment group in the study, uh please reach out to myself or to our associate planner Jared Hos here at city hall for more information.

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All right. Item K6, ordinance to consider amending chapter 350 zoning to remove the tier one zoning district from text and map. >> I think this is the last time you'll hear from me tonight maybe. Um, but this is to remove the tier one zoning district from the current map and text

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amendment from the zoning district. Under Minnesota law, a municipality may extend its zoning authority into unincorporated territory, but we don't we no longer have any within county. And so we don't have the authority to actually have the tier one zoning district is some recently new news we

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found out. And so we're just abiding by the statute and removing this district. Um it was recommended to do so by the planning commission held at the recent public hearing and is before you now. >> Motion to approve. >> I'll second. Motion by Lendine, second

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by Heman. All in favor say I. I. Any opposed? Motion carries. 5-0. Next, we'll move on to the consent agenda. >> Any questions about the uh payroll or accounts payable? >> Motion to approve. >> Is that Is that the only thing actually in the consent agenda? Okay. I wasn't sure if my iPad just didn't load. A

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motion to approve by Lundine. >> Second. >> Second by Peterson. All in favor say I. >> I. >> Any opposed? >> Motion carries 5-0. Uh next we'll move on to close session for labor negotiation strategy for IUEE local 49

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and AFS CME Council 65 local 2889-11 pursuant to Minnesota statute 13D.03. So we'll move into close session. I'll entertain a motion to go into that clos >> motion to go in close session. >> Second. >> Motion by Lundine. Second by Peterson to go into close session. All in favor say

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I. >> I. Any opposed? Motion carries 5-0. We're in close session. Oh yeah. You'll love this.