Good evening. Thank you for coming to our second half of our meeting for the month of May. And uh Joe Wishmire, would you lead us in the pledge? Certainly. I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Thank you. Marty, would you please call the role? Council member
Steve Freriedman, here. Council member Deb Gillis, here. Council member Anna Richards, here. Vice Mayor Don Horton, I'm here. and Mayor Sharon Mahoney. Yes, we have a quorum. Okay. Uh, council requests for deletions, additions. Deb,
do you have anything? Can we delete the meeting? No, I guess not. Don, no ma'am. Steve, nope. Nope. No. Okay. Madame Mayor, I just want to note for that tab D, the um resolution to
consider the administrative appeal um has been continued to July 24th in case there's anybody in the audience. Oh, that's the dead animal bar for the Safari Lounge. That's correct. Sorry, that's what I know it as. That will be continued to July 24th. There was a procedural error, so that will be July
24th. July 24th. Okay. Thank you very much. Okay, let's move on to public comment. Marne, do we have anyone? Do uh we will start with Joe Wishmeer. Thank you. Joe Wishmire, Plantation Key. Mayor and council, in the past, I have
asked a question about who is responsible for making the agenda. Who makes the final decision as to what items go on the consent agenda? mayor council communications and village attorney uh village communications to which some important
items have been discussed without any chance for public comment. Finally, the council after listening decided to move the public comment after all communications were done as to receive public comment. December, January and
February meetings reflected those changes. Now, March, April, and May meetings, public comment was moved back up before communications, again, not allowing any public comment. Now, with the new village manager, I would hope to
again move the public comment after the communications to encourage more public involvement. Next, I wonder if any council members read the report about the traffic that will be added to segment 21 on Plantation
Key. An additional 1,638 trips a day will be added to Plantation Key, where US1 already goes from four lanes to two lanes with two schools in that same area. With only 1622 trips available from the
2021 COVID year traffic study, that's 16 trips over to MAX. Bart Smith says that they will pay $18,14 a year for the next 12 years for mitigation towards freebie in Isa Marada. First of all, I thought that Isa
Marada was going to turn freebie over to the county. Second, $18,000 a year towards the cost of freebie to taxpayers isn't very much. That would also mean that with Tavern Publix using all available trips on Plantation Key, no
more development would be allowed unless the businesses paid $11,80 per additional trip, which is the equivalent of what they're paying for Publix. This seems very unfair to the residents on Plantation Key. Businesses want to expand an additional congestion
around our schools. The Monroe County Code and Island Code cover this problem with intergovernmental coordination. Do not allow all available trips on US1 to be taken and create even more traffic congested in an already vulnerable area.
Thank you again for the status update sheets available at the last meeting and on the mayor's newsletter. We appreciate that. Thank you. Thank you, Joe. Morning. Next is David Deus Grossback. Good evening council. I think all of you
know me. David Daz Graassic. I've owned DHAZ Consulting and Design for 35 years. I hope this was passed out to you. A sheet. Did that get passed out? Yes, it did. Thank you. So, here's why I'm here this evening. I am asking you to please
direct your director uh planning to add two words to the definitions and to your land development regulations. The two words are museum and uh charging station. You don't have museum currently
anywhere in your LDRs. You have two museums. Uh the one I worked on with uh Dr. Bower was permitted under commercial square footage. This is inappropriate for a museum because commercial square
footage by its definition says it is to generate revenue. uh museums do not. So I'm hoping you will uh direct the your director to uh work on that as we move forward and have the word museum and a
definition and applied to the appropriate uses. I've made some suggestions uh to you. The next word is charging station. We don't have anything for charging stations right now in the land development regulations. Uh previously there was a client who had a
possible tenant to lease area to set up a charging station which couldn't be permitted. So they walked away and there is nothing right now uh in the pipeline that I'm a aware of. I have nothing in the pipeline. I don't have any applications concerning these two words.
It's just something we need to address and need to do. We need to try and stay current whenever possible. I know you're working on a lot of uh the regulations and your comprehensive plan. So, I thought this would be the opportune time to add these two words, museum and
charging station. And I've given some information to your director and for you for reference and I'll answer any questions. Thank you very much. Council, anybody have anything? Deb, Don, Anna, and Steve? I guess we're good. Thank you
very much. I'll I'll we'll have a discussion about this. Thank you. You're welcome. Thank you very much, Arie. There is no one else signed up. Okay. Public comment is now closed. Um that brings us to the mayor council
communication. If it's okay with the rest of the council, I'm going to have Ty Harris come up after the village attorneys and get him out of here as he's got to see his new grandbaby. So, if that's okay with anybody, anybody have a problem with that? Go ahead, Deb.
I don't have a problem with that, but I also would like to address the public. Okay. Well, I'll let you go ahead and do that now before Okay. Because because they're right. We did have we did move it between village attorney, village
manager, communications and resolutions so that it gave the public a better choice of of things that they could comment on and I I hadn't noticed that got moved back. Okay. So, John, it was an accident. Sorry. This this was
something that actually me and Marty had talked about it. It just the civic clerk software I think kicked it back to the default and we hadn't noticed it but we actually noticed it earlier in the week and so but thank you Joe for bringing it up. We're we're on it. It'll be back in in
June. John, that's your one mistake then you get to make in May. Okay. Oh man, it's early in May too. I know. Okay. Um, I'd like to bring something up very quickly for the um council to consider and to hopefully we can get Lisa in our
finance department to put out an RFP for a grant writer, someone who can go after. There's a lot of grants out there that we can get. Um, we could do it on an a friend of mine does it and gets a percentage and I don't know what that is yet to look into of the grants that they
get. So, it doesn't impact the taxpayers, it doesn't impact our budget. And since I've been working with the transportation board and with the ramp uh up in Tallahassee, I'm amazed how many grants there are out there that we should actively pursue. So, if it's okay
with the rest of the council, I'd like to ask if we can maybe put out an RFP and see what we can get. So, you're not talking about an employee, you're talking about somebody that's a subcontractor. Exactly. Okay. Yeah. It's amazing. I just talked to uh Ron, I
think it was this week. We've talked about that and I've I've talked in the past about possibly getting this on. So, it's a good thing. You guys okay with it? Yep. I I see his finger waving. He's He's next. Yeah, that's great. Okay, go ahead. Just an update. I spoke today
with a gentleman named Mike Langden. He's a former state legislator. He's under contract with City of Key West to do this. He all he does is grant procurements. He goes out and finds the grants, works them, etc. I had discussed him today. I asked about a contingency fee. Uh, according to him, you cannot
have a contingency fee. In other words, it cannot be based on a percentage, and I guess John can verify or not verify. I haven't talked to him about it yet. Uh, Mike is willing to come on board. I asked him to come to the June 10th meeting, make a presentation. Uh, he says he's willing to do it for 2,000 a
month. Yeah. which is I think in return I think his contract with Key West is 5,000 a month but we're smaller and so anyways something I want to bring before the council because I want him to get started if it's Mike or whoever I talked to to our council today I'm not sure we have to go out for RFQ uh and there's
some exceptions to that and I'll get with John about that but I want to get us right away because there's grant money out there and Mike is very good at getting it like I said he's under contract with Key West and I've seen I think he charged 60,000 brought in $300,000 worth of grants in one year. If
you have other people want to do it, that's certainly we'll talk to them, too. I don't know who else would do it, but like I said, I think it's an important thing to do and I'm I would like to have it on the June 10th agenda one way or another. So, if you have other people that are interested, let us know. We can do an RFQ. I just thought it' be quicker to just do it. If we have
the exemption, we could do it. What's the downside to us putting out the RFQ anyhow, John? I mean, other than, you know, time, I don't think there is a uh downside. I mean it's um obviously if if multiple people go then you have
multiple people to choose from. So it's it's really just the will of you all. How do you guys feel about it? Don D. Go ahead. Go ahead. Go ahead. I think it's a great idea. I go out the one person. Oh I think we ought to
entertain several people and see what they do and what their talents are and what they're able to produce for us. I agree. Uh but I think it's a great idea. I I quite honestly I thought we had someone that already did that for us. I thought we were working and so but we
definitely need something for sure. Yeah. I thought I also thought that we' we'd done this couple years ago, three years ago, whatever something we did talk about it. Um and I I would be hesitant as long as it's legal to not go
out for an RFP RFQ RFP, sorry. Um, we could entertain it. Depends on whether or not he maybe we could do both. Put him on if he works by the month and we could just say okay until we actually do the RFP. Uh, we'll use
you. I don't know. Whatever is legal. Well, I talked to Jamie and she already has one ready to go before I knew about your the person you want. So, she already has an RFP ready to go. She said I talked to her about it. So, still a couple months. Yeah. Yeah. How do you
guys feel, Steve? Yeah, I think it's great. I'd look forward to hearing from him in in the June in the June meeting so we can talk to him about some of his ideas and and go through with other potential candidates, I guess. So, Anna, yeah. Anybody who So, the message I'm
getting is that we should put out the RFP and let this gentleman come in and if he's the only one and and if you know, but I I do think it's only fair to put it out to everybody. It doesn't look, you know, for transparency. That's
a new word. We're learning. I just was trying to expedite it because I think there's some grant monies already out there. But I think I talked to John. He thinks that we can expedite the RFQ. I guess we RFQ, not RFP or RFQ for qualifications. And then if we
got more than one, you know. Okay. There's there's nothing wrong with having more people that are trying to find. Okay. So, we're on board. Yeah. We could do a shorter application window to try to expedite it too. Yeah. Thank you very much. And the last thing is the Machado property. I'd like to uh visit
uh what the Ottabon has to use the property and to make sure we're all in agreement with them using it and that it is signed by the village. Correct. What's going on? I don't know what's that because the Ottabon Society has
been allowed to use the Machado property, the water for their boats and I think we need to have a whole harmless agreement. We need to have some type of contract with them and it needs to be fenced off. Is there a dock there? Yes, I live right near there and a young man
fell off the dock over the Easter weekend and we need to protect ourselves and there is a a a use agreement that our office had drafted. um when this first came up. I don't know if it was ever entered into um under the prior manager and it did have a hold harmless
agreement in there. Um I can I can fish that out if if we Yeah, I mean that's like I said it's already drafted. So um I can get it to Ron and if there's not if it's not already been signed, we can get and we had talked about maybe a fence to block off what the area the Ottabon might use to keep other people
from utilizing it in the back area. See, you guys, you all have these looks like I know you don't know. So, they're using they're using the property without a a contract or agreement or Well, let's let John figure it out. And right now, I don't think there anybody that I know of
signed the contract with them. And I'm all for the Ottabon. I love the Ottabon. In fact, the head of it is my next door neighbor. And uh they keep their boats there for access. and they were it was an agreement they made with someone in the village and not properly. So well I
would say if we stick to our code our code says you can't have accessory uses or structures without first having a principal. So I don't know how we could allow any uses on a piece of property that does trying to fix it now. You're not okay. Can can we ask can we ask for
it to bring back on the June? That's why I brought it up so that because I I didn't know anybody was using it. I thought it was vacant, too. Nope. So, the only reason I'm bringing it up is so we cross our tees and dot our eyes and everything we do. See, I'm pretty
useful, aren't I? I said I'm pretty useful. Anyhow, can we look into that? Okay. All right. Thank you very much. Okay, John, we're ready for you.
There was um I just wanted to address um the what was brought up by uh Mr. Das in terms of the the definitions because there's there's a couple of um bills that that passed that will have uh implications for this. They're still
awaiting signature from the governor, but I want to make sure everyone's aware of it. in uh what's called S uh Senate Bill 700 that was passed, there actually is a definition that is being added to state law for electric vehicle charging station. So that would be defined by
state law and under that same statute, it says that the regulation of electric vehicle charging stations is preempted to the state. So if that definition gets signed by the governor, I I don't think we would be able to create our own definition. And there's an express preeemption in in the
law for that. Um I also wanted to make sure that the public was aware in in the prior electric vehicle charging station they ended up yes walking away. It wasn't because it couldn't be permitted just un in the location and under the requirements of the code. They didn't
that it could that it would allow it for be permitted didn't work with what they were looking to do. Um so ultimately they ended up walking away. The other bill I want to mention is a bill that has been talked about a lot in the Keys, which is Senate Bill 180. That's the one that that gives the BPASS allocations to
everyone um to the cities in in the um in the Keys and the county. In that bill, there is another provision that really no one has talked about. Um and it really kind of it really came to my attention today when we when me and one
of my partners were going through the the actual part of the bill. There's a provision in there that says any municipality or county that was in a that was listed in one of the federal disaster declarations for either Hurricane Debbie, Helen, or Milton,
which Monroe was in I think two if not three of those that we may not propose or adopt a moratorum on construction, reconstruction or development or propose or adopt more restrictive or burdensome
amendments to our comp plan LDRs or uh procedures concerning certain review at all from until October 1st, 2027. So, wow. And and it it also So, you say, "Wow, it's even it's even
broader than that cuz that is a long time to not be able to propose a more restrictive uh requirements." It goes it's retroactive to August 1st, 2024. So that would include things that cities have passed all the way back to August
21st, 2024, and it deems them void abonio, meaning they as if they've never been enacted. There are a couple exceptions in there. If if the application um uh if the change is associated with an application that was initiated by a
private party, then that's an exception. So if a like if a private party wanted to propose changes that is would that would be more restrictive that would presumably be be allowed. Certainly a more restrictive uh change in your comp
plan or your your um zoning map if it's proposed by the other party that would be allowed. But I want to make sure that this this is brought to everybody's attention because it is a huge thing. And I I when I mentioned it to Jennifer today, she about fell out of her chair
because it it just knocks out planning. I mean, you think about it, we're going through a comp plan rewrite. That comp plan rewrite is going to if we pass it will be passed after August 1st, 2024. So, if there's anything in there that's more
restrictive, it it would be covered by this bill if it's signed by by the governor. So this is a big big issue that I think people should be aware of and people should be talking about. So I wanted to take the opportunity since since it it was relevant to not
necessarily relevant directly to what Mr. Deos was saying, but in terms of if if a private party applies to something, but I wanted to take take the time to to mention to everybody and to mention so that the public is aware because if this is signed by the governor, chances are
there are going to be situations where you all want to do something and our our hands are going to be tied by state law just because of this until we get to October 1st, 2027. I honestly I've never seen anything as broad as
this like this. Um um and you know, so it's something we'll have to deal with. We're we're monitoring. Um it it really got added in at the last minute to the bill. Um basically right upon shortly before passage, the Senate added it in and it was in, you know, and and and the
House did uh I don't know when the House added it or whatnot, but the Senate added it in right before passage and then uh a couple days ago and it passed. So, um, I just want to mention that cuz I I was so shocked when I read it and I had to reread it multiple times
thinking, you know, it can't be this bad. And every time I reread it, it got worse. It got worse. Got worse. So, so I want to make sure you're aware because we are going through that process and and you know, it's something that will be if it's signed will be hanging over
our head for for a little over two years now. And and it doesn't just apply to us. that bill number again. Uh it's SB180. It's it's actually the same bill as in um that the the BPASS allocations are in and it's um
it's section 28 of the bill starts at line 1321. So it's it's almost it's like right at the very end of the bill. I think there's 29 sections other than the 30th one which says it shall become effective once it's signed. But
substance-wise, it's one of the very last sections um because it was added in at the uh last minute. Thank you. Anything else, John? I don't know. Yeah. You want me to keep talking? No. No. No. But you guys look shell shocked. You
look like I looked when I was first reading this. So, no. No. Nothing more from me other than that. And I just want to add to I was I did fall out of my chair. I think John when you told me about it and was speechless for about an hour but um it also and I mentioned this to John I don't know what we do about
that but in in the same bill where it gives us the allocations if we were to accept those allocations and then want to use them we would have to make changes to our comprehensive plan that would likely be more restrictive and burdensome so it's kind of contradictory
to what it wants us to do here in Monroe County so I don't know how we he we look that. But yeah, and we're looking into that because I I do think there's some internal consistencies with that just given how we have a comp plan that spells out our BPASS system and the and the points and if we have to prioritize
one or another, you know, how do you prioritize them without coming in and making changes to those? So, I mean, the good there is one good part is that there's a there's a 30-day cure provision. So, if somebody um you know challenges it, it gives the government 30 days to cure it. um uh you know the
whether you could or not would depend on the circumstances. I should also mention I I've already been the bearer of enough bad news. There's an attorney's fees provision in this bill too that only runs to the private property owner that's challenging it. The government doesn't get it if if we defend and win.
And I I know these things happen at the last minute, but did our lobbyists not flag this? Uh I don't I haven't uh I haven't talked to them about it. I wasn't I wasn't aware of it until today. So, I I haven't had a chance to to talk to them about it. Um I'm not sure if uh Yeah, I'm not sure if they were, but
once I get a chance to talk to them, I'll I'll find out more. But yeah. Okay. Deb, you have something? Yeah. I wanted to ask a question about the other ones, the uh charging y bill. Um
would can it be would would it be maybe we don't even know yet. uh similar to what we've seen in the past where we can control location but not prohibit. And you don't necessarily have to do this
tonight in that respect, but uh to um to allow us. It's it's you you can't prohibit it, but it you know, maybe there's a way to at least control where we're putting them or I don't know.
Maybe we don't even need it. I don't know. Yeah, I'll have to check on that because there is a provision in that same bill that says um local government entities shall issue permits for electric vehicle charging stations based solely on standards established by the by department rule or other other
applicable provisions of state law. So, I'll have to look into see if that would preempt our zoning categories. It it doesn't specifically say that it would preempt zoning categories, but I've got to take a look at to see just how uh how far that would go. Yeah, we just need to
know the limits on what that cuz we've seen prohibition issues before that we can do some control on. Yeah. And and there's a difference between, you know, single residential charging stations and then a commercial charging station where it's almost akin to like a gas station
where people can pull in and charge their cars. Right. So, I I would have to think that they would allow they they wouldn't make us put commercial ones in residential neighborhoods, but we'll we'll have to look into that. Okay. Okay. All right. Since we are moving to
Mr. Harris, Marne, this would be the quasi judicial. He's the first. These these are tabs B and C which correlate to Roman numerals 8A and
8B. Um so I'll read the quasi judicial uh statement. Um please be advised that the following agenda items are quasi judicial in nature. If you wish to comment upon these items, please inform the village clerk by filling out the available signup form. An opportunity for persons to speak on each item will be made available after the applicant
and staff have made their presentations on each item. As a reminder, testimony and quasi judicial items must be presented in person. Zoom testimony is not permitted. These proceedings will be handled in accordance with the village code requirements. All testimony, including public testimony and evidence will be made under oath or affirmation.
Additionally, each person who gives testimony may be subject to cross-examination. If you do not wish to be either cross-examined or sworn, your testimony shall be disregarded. The general public will not be permitted to cross-examine witnesses, but the public may request the council to ask questions of staff or witnesses on their behalf.
The full agenda packet on each item is hereby entered into the record along with the village code and comprehensive plan. Any correspondence that was received by the village staff is included in the file as and part of the record. Persons representing organizations must present evidence of their authority to speak for the
organization. Further details of the quasi judicial procedures in section 30-256 of the village code may be obtained from the village clerk. Tonight there are two quasi judicial items which again are tabs B and C. uh Roman numeral 8 A and B. Um they are related. So um we
we can take them together. Uh at this time I'd like to ask anyone who intends to speak on the quasi judicial items tonight to please raise your hands to be sworn in by the clerk if you intend to speak at all on those items. In the matter in which you are about to give testimony, do you swear that you will
tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? The witnesses have been sworn. Okay. And um madame mayor, uh tab B is stated an ordinance of and these are an ordinance on second reading. An ordinance of
Alamada Village of Islands, Florida consider the request of Lynn L. Bell to amend the village's future land use map from residential medium to mixed use for the subject property located on Upper Madakumbi Key with real estate number 00404730-00000000 as legally described herein providing for the transmitt of
this ordinance to the state department of commerce and providing for an effective date upon the approval of this ordinance by the state department of commerce. And tab C is um also an ordinance on second reading which is the companion ordinance an ordinance of Alamada Village of Islands, Florida considering the request of Lynel
Elbell to amend the official zoning map from settler's residential to highway commercial for the subject property located on Upper Madakumbi Ki with real estate number 00404730-000000 as legally described herein providing for the transmitt of this ordinance to the state department of commerce and providing for an effect
uh an effective date. Council, before we begin, I would like you to please disclose any exparte communications that you may have had with the applicant or anyone else on either of these tabs. Uh, please include whether the person represented any group or entity as well as the subject matter as you best recall. Thank you. Deb, start with you.
Yes. Um, I was on LPA when this first came forward and um, I'm pretty sure I spoke with Ty Harris during that, but since then I haven't spoke with anybody. Don, you're null and void, right? Yeah. Out of the abundance of caution, I'm going to recuse myself even though Miss Bell is no longer a client of mine.
Okay, Anna? Nobody. Steve, none. And I talked to Ty probably the first time this came up, but not since. So, all right, we're ready to proceed. Okay, Mr. Harris, would you like to come up first? Huh?
Usually, yeah, usually staff under the code staff presents first. I mean, I'm willing to wave the because we've already had the whole That's the whole report once, so we don't have to do it again. I'm not going to give the whole just to remind you, these are Did he
just liked you? Flum and zoning change for um property located at 81213 Overseas Highway. The flum change would go from uh settlers residential, no, I'm sorry, that's the zoning change from re residential medium to mixed juice. and
the zoning change would be settlers residential to highway commercial. The uh village council approved this ordinance on first reading at its meeting on January 9th and uh was then forwarded to the flum was then forwarded to the department of commerce for its state coordinated review. We they've
provided a letter with no objections and one comment um that copy of that letter was dated March 14th and is was attached to your packet there. One comment was that we coordinated with the South Florida Water Management District in regards to future water management planning. Um, and I've forwarded that to
our public works director for his review. Um, and other than that, staff would recommend adoption on second reading. Okay, now you can get up. Thank you, Madame Mayor. Uh, Ty Harris, uh, Ty Harris, PA, Plantation Key here
on behalf of the applicant. We've already done the presentation. You have the staff report. I would just respectfully request those be included into the record for tonight. Um, nothing's changed. This was a unanimous decision by the council. This goes back
to writing the wrongs that this this body has been very sensitive to and has been doing. This was a commercial property in the county. And it first came to my attention when I was the the village planning director and mangrove
Mike called me up very angry about why this property had been reszoned to residential and so we looked to see if there was a mapping error and there wasn't. Um it was uh it was done in that first first round of changes where you
know state allows for properties when you when you reszone or change the comprehensive plan flume designation greater than 10 acres you don't have to give individual notice. Notice is published by newspaper which is what happened to the mayor and it's happened
to a bunch of people. So it's just one of those just to remind everybody how how we got here. Um, and if you have any questions, I'd be happy to answer. Council, anything for Mr. Harris? No. Anna, no questions. Okay. So, I guess
we'll start with uh all four. Anyone? Don't make me laugh. Any Mary, do we have anyone? Do not have anyone in favor. Okay. So, let's move to opposed. Okay. I would call Joey Wishmeer.
Yes, Joe Wishmire, Plantation Key. It's not just about this property. Uh, I'm just voicing my objection to any we're redoing our LDRs and our comprehensive plan. And I don't know why we keep approving more and more stuff without knowing what's going to be in our new
comprehensive plan. So, I would just suggest that we proceed with caution and slow down and wait until we get our new comp plan so that we know that what we're approving now is going to be agreeable with that new comp plan. Thank you. Thank you, Marne. Anyone else? No,
ma'am. Okay. Um, Ty, would you like to say something? I appreciate those comments, but as you heard, if uh Senate Bill 180 gets uh signed by the governor in its present form, it's kind of a moot discussion because we know what's going to happen, which is we won't be able to
touch our comprehensive plan into sometime into 2027, at least to to tighten it up um and and make it more restrictive. So, everybody has a right to apply to fix fix their property. and you can't take that away, even though we
would all like for the new comp plan to be in place and to have that there. Um, but you can't you can't legally stop people from applying uh to to change their their property back. Thank you. Thank you very much, council.
I I think so. I'll make a motion. We have to do them separately. So, I'll make a motion for uh changing the U flume as suggested. Second. Marty, would you call the role,
please? Council member Deb Gillis, yes. Council member Ann Richards, yes. Council member Steve Freriedman, yes. And Mayor Sharon Mahoney, yes. The motion passes four to zero. Thank you. Okay, we're going to do the second half of it now. uh the for
the zoning map. I'll make a motion to accept the staff recommendation for the zoning map change also. Second. Okay, Marty, call the role, please. I'm sorry, who was the second there? Anna. Thank you. All right. Uh, Council Member Deb
Gillis, yes. Council member Anna Richards, yes. Council member Steve Freriedman, yes. And Mayor Sharon Mahoney, yes. And that motion passes four to zero. Thank you. Enjoy your dinner. And thank you for letting me jump the line. I really appreciate it. No worries. Good to see the new baby.
Okay. Bye-bye. So, we'll move back to then a the first one, which would be the resolutions. That's correct. Yes. Tab A is a resolution of the village council of Alamara Village of Islands, Florida, modifying resolution number 24-08-77 and authorizing three
affordable housing unit allocations for award to Habitat for Humanity for a proposed development off Ren Street on a parcel identified with real estate number 00422730-00002000 and not requiring that the three units be on village owned property and providing for an effective date.
Jennifer, good evening council. Um so this request is before you tonight um just to give you a little bit of background. Um back in 2017 the village council approved the reservation of eight affordable units for use um at what was known as Woods Corner um by the
Gorman properties um Gorman Company I guess it's called and um that project was never brought to fruition. Um and then last year uh we brought that back to the council uh those allocations and at that time
Habitat was interested in moving forward with the project. There was a lot of discussion. Some some of the council members at that time didn't want to move forward with a project at that location anymore. Um and then Habitat determined that they weren't interested in that project anymore. Um, so at at the time
last year, the council reserved the eight for use on village owned properties. So, fast forward to about a month or so ago, I received a call from a member of the Habitat board who uh they have another project off of Ren Street behind
the Coral Isles Church um that they have been trying to put together and they have it's a four lot um parcel or it's a parcel that could hold four single family homes. They have one allocation that is left over from their project at
292 Gardinia Street that they're going to transfer over there. So, they'd need three additional single family allocations, affordable single family allocations for this project. So, they've asked if they could take three of those eight that were reserved for use on village own lots. Um, so that is
the request this evening is to take three of the eight away from the village own lots and be given to Habitat for that project. I know that we have the um outgoing executive director from Habitat and the new executive director from Habitat in the audience this evening. So
I think they might um want to speak um to this request. So um we are recommending that um we we do give them the allocations. Um the village has uh 292 early evacuation workforce affordable housing allocations that
could be used on village owned properties. It would it's more likely that if the village were to build affordable housing, they would build the type of affordable housing that those allocations would be more applicable to than single family homes um on their own
properties. Um and then as we all know, Habitat's model is more the single family home type. So that would be our recommendation at this time, but then I will let Habitat speak to what their intention is at this time. Okay. Council, is it okay we just go ahead and let them speak? Yeah, let's hear with
Lindsay and Scott. Come on up, Lindsay. Good evening, council. Lindsay Fast, Island Marada resident, but here on behalf of Habitat for Humanity of the Upper Keys, and I am the outgoing executive director of that organization. Scott is the incoming. So, I'd like to introduce Scott and happy to answer any
of your questions in regards to the project. Council, anyone have a question? I got a couple of questions. Um, Scott, welcome to the Habitat for Humanity. Welcome aboard. Thanks. Good to be here. Appreciate it. Good news. And we're going to miss you, Lindsay. That's for
sure. Yeah. Thank you. So, uh, I guess a couple of questions for y'all and for Jennifer. Jennifer, is is there a defined process right now for reservation of rights? No. Okay. because I remember being there where Lindsay standing a couple of times asking to be
have a reservation of rights to the previous council uh several times and uh there was always they would always balk and never completely understood why. I think reservation of rights are are important especially for projects that
are ready to go. Um how ready is this project to go? Um it's it's depends on you guys. Obviously, we need the reservations in order to really get started on everything. We we do have some plans, some rough plans. As Jennifer mentioned, there's four single family homes we'd
like to put on the lot. Um, these are donor funds. So, we obviously as steward of those funds need to have approval on those allocations before we start to solidify too much of the planning. So, you've identified the site and the site
is appropriate for how many units? Four. Four. What are you asking me? Huh? What are you asking me? I don't want to walk into a trap. So, what are you asking me? A trap. It's for when have you I ever trapped you. So,
um um I I I think that a reservation of rights needs to have a timeline. I think that there shouldn't just be open-ended because there are other people that are out there that may want to have reservations of rights. I think that's what happened with the Gorman project.
There wasn't a timeline and so it just kind of fell into disarray. So I Yeah, it's understandable. That's exactly right. So, uh, how much are we looking at? How have we discussed that? Have we had a conversation with the planning director? And have, uh, is there is
there a time frame that Habitat's looking? So, I can I can I haven't spoken specifically with Scott or Lindsay about this recently. I spoke to Lindsay maybe a year or so ago just about some general stuff on this project and some general things. I've spoken more recently with some board member
Habitat board members. Um and so I think you know obviously we would need to have a more robust conversation with Scott now that he's here and the maybe some of more of the board members to determine um next steps
forward. there's some potential, well, not potential, there are some um issues with zoning and platting and things like that that we need to work out. But I think all of those things can be worked out. I don't think there's any hurdles that can't be jumped. They just need to, you know, the process needs to be
followed. So, I think that needs to happen. So, I'm going to ask the next crazy question to John. John, the property they're looking at is zoned public semi-public. With the zoning on that property is public semi-public. How is uh Senate Bill 180 going to come to
play if we change want to change our uh R land development regulations and our comp plan to allow affordable housing on a piece of property that we're going to have to either do a a tax amendment or we're going to have to figure out how to
insert affordable housing units onto a zoning district that doesn't currently allow for residential units. I would say uh if we're allowing something that's not currently allowed then I I would say it would be less restrictive. So then I think we could do it without falling under that. If there was a concern that
it would that there was any portion of it might be more restrictive, then certainly Habitat could apply for it and then that would take it that would be be an would be one of the exemptions or the exceptions so that we could uh fall through that as long as it was um
applied to by the um by Habitat. Okay. So, there's ways to do it if if it's um if it's more restrictive. I I think I want to wait and hear what y'all have to say and then maybe chime in a little bit more. Go ahead, Deb. I I Well, falling
in line with what Don was talking about is it's a time frame. Are we looking at two years? Are we looking at a year? Um, you know, in order to do something this evening, we we I think we need to know
that in this ordinance. I'm not I'm not really opposed to this. So I just a lot of pieces. Absolutely. We're July 1 fiscal. So we're in the budget process right now. Um we haven't finalized anything, but from a capital standpoint, we are we think that it's a viable
project within three years. Three years. Yeah. Okay. So you would be asking these to be reserved for three years. Correct. I'm just trying to clarify. Yes. Okay. Correct. Done. And and and you're only
asking for three. Yes. Correct. Okay. Yeah. And just um for some background, we do have um 10 allocations from Monroe County that have been promised to us and those were given we were given five years on those and we're to start those
projects by 2027. So that's also part of that how that shakes out to give a bit of context. Does that make sense? Say it again. So we had 10 allocations reserved from the county and those projects are
need to start by 2027. So we're we're playing with those the timing of those as well which is why we can comfortably say 3 years. Okay. I got if that makes sense. Thank you. Yep. Done Anna. Yeah, I mean I know all about this project and
um it's just just a matter of going through going through the steps to get there with the platting, the zoning. It they just have to get to the get to that point. So, I have no problem approving. Steve, do you have anything? No, I'm
supportive. Okay. Well, you asked the question I was going to ask, so I'm good, too. So, John, um, if you all are interested in, um, putting an an end time, uh, limit on it, I I drafted some language and ran it by Jennifer that she
was okay with that. Um, we could, if there if you wanted to include that, it would be a motion to approve and I can read that proposed language. You guys can tweak it how you'd like. Um, and then that way there would be a time frame in there that um, for the use. You want to read it now? Yeah. I mean what I
wrote was just uh and I picked a date end of the month 3 years from now. So um I just said if the three allocations are not utilized by May 31st 2028 uh then they shall revert back to the village under the conditions set set forth in resolution
24-08-77. That's the resolution that currently governs them. So basically it's just going back to us under the same conditions they were on they're currently on. Okay. Go ahead. either or I was just going to go on and make a motion to Well, I got to do public
comment. Oh, okay. Deb, that's I was going to make a motion. Look how quick they are. Yeah. Anything else from the council before I open? I just want to make sure they're good with that three years, though. You're good. You I think we can make that work. Okay. All right. Thank you. Is there any public comment?
The only folks signed up for public comment are Lindsay and Scott. Oh, okay. Well, they're already speaking. So council, I'd like to make a motion that we approve a reservation of rights for three units at that for humanity not to exceed 3 years. And I'll second that
motion. All right, Marne with all the other stuff John said. Yeah, right. I assumed that to be the case. Okay. Vice Mayor Don Horton. Yes. Council member Deb Gillis. Yes. Council member
Steve Freriedman. Yes. Council member Anna Richards. Yes. And Mayor Sharon Mahoney. Yes. The motion passes 5-0. Congratulations. And we're going to miss you. I'll be around, but just not in that role. She's not going anywhere. I know. Thanks. Look forward to working.
Okay. Thank you very much. Okay, that moves us to tab D. Uh, tab D was moved, but there's tab X was the um, uh, the one I don't, it wasn't in the book, but I think it was on the it's the holiday lights one that
we we were very efficient. We were able to bring it back and get it done. Wow, that was fast. Good job. The uh, Tab X is a resolution of the village council of Marada, village of Islands, Florida, approving the agreement with Holiday uh, Holiday Lightscapes, Inc. to provide holiday decorations within the village.
Authorizing village officials to implement the terms and conditions of the agreement. Authorizing village manager to expend budgeted funds. Authorizing village manager to execute the agreement. Providing for a waiver of competitive bidding and providing for an effective date. I believe that would be Miss Stephanie. Yes. Hi. So, like John said, we were
quick enough to be able to get that contract turned around. The only changes to the proposal in front of you is the addition of the or the swap of the big ornament that was at the hurricane monument. Um so that resulted in an increase of $945 per year. Um to what Councilman
Freiedman asked me the other day, I spoke to the vendor this morning. Um and he said that he plans to have the lights up by the middle of November. Um so be the week before Thanksgiving. Um and they would be come back down by mid January. Wow.
Okay. Um, council, do you have anything you want to say? No. I had a couple questions that I posed. Did you Were you able to get a hold of him? Okay. Never mind. Anna, I would just make a motion to approve the three years. I think I need to open public comment first.
Correct. Sure. You can do the motion before, but we or after, but we definitely have to have public comment. Yeah. So, public comment first. Oh, Steve, I'm sorry. I didn't see you. I I guess my only objection is it just seems like uh quite a bit of money to put forth. I'd
like to see the community involved where we could put that money more toward our own community to do decorations and so forth rather than it going to an outside. So what you what are you suggesting? Well, like what I suggested the other night where maybe we could contact the schools and see if we could get some sort of um you know program
going where um where students can do a lot of this decorating and can be you know that funding can be provided by us through this. I had suggested that for the other parks maybe we can get the schools and you want to include this park now too. Correct. I that was that
was the original thought. Yeah. I'm just It seems like it seems like a lot. $50,000 a year for for holiday lights. I'm you know I'm You're lucky you weren't here with Henry who had it at 115. Well, either way, I know. So, how does everybody else feel? So, are what are
you exactly suggesting? that we buy the lights and we have the school put the lights up or not even lights that they could create some other art program that would be decorating you know some of these village areas whether it's the park whether it's South Winds something
to that effect. So we wouldn't you don't want to purchase these lights at all or have any any holiday decorations at this point? No, that's not what I'm saying. I think that we could I think that there's ways that we could save some money and I thought that that might be an idea where we could save some money doing that. I
thought that's what our original intention was and we've ended up cutting this more than 50% from what had previously been. So, I mean, I do think it's a great idea to encourage the the schools and and and other people to get involved in, you know, in decorating our
our village during that time. That's really what I'm saying. Okay. Well, let me just the south winds like she said. I I'm I'm with doing this so it's more professional in some of these other areas and then let the kids do one of
the other parks or pick a you know you have the plantation preserve park, you have Southwinds Park, we have other parks that Yeah. I don't want to take away from what the chamber does every year and how they've been able to bring the community to this park and have a wonderful festival and without having
the lights that we're uh that we're putting onto this piece of property in combination of what the chamber does is u is going to look kind of weird, I think. So, I I think that it's I think we've we've saved 50 over 50% of what
was approved before. And I'm I'm okay with that. And maybe this gives us a three-year lead to maybe start developing that into something else. So when this is up, then we can move into maybe an alternative. I like it, Deb. Well, my only comment is that say I'd
like to see some of this. Not. It's It's great for the Chambers festival and and the soccer fields when they have the kids or whatever, but I'd like to see a little bit more of it out front where our our tourists and our residents can
actually see it. Technically, the park is closed at night. It's not that I'm opposed to spending the money as much as where we're putting it. Um, uh, I I've questioned whether or not we need eight wreaths on the building. I
mean, I I got pretty nitpicky. I know I did, but if if we want some some of the stuff more out front, you have to find where it is if we still want to save the money that we want to save. So, that's my
only point. My concern is timing that if we don't sign a contract, we might not get it at all. And secondly, um, how do I say this nicely? Where I'd love for the community to step up to the plate, but to take everything away and
just hold her breath for that the first year, I'm very scared of to tell you the truth. That's why I'd like my other park suggestions. I like your park suggestions. Well, and and we have the hurricane monument. We have they're going to do something at the front up by the bridge. Like we have other areas that are going to be design everything
now. Yeah. But maybe we should just try one thing this year, Steve, and start with like South Winds Park and have the school do Christmas tree decorating contest or something. Yeah, we can get that ball rolling once, you know, this passes. We got a few years to kind of work on that. Would you like that, Ron,
to spearhead that? You can go to some schools. The phrase is Ron, you will spare that, won't you? So to me um I say we go ahead with the way this is and starts taking baby steps towards the community doing stuff because it might
backfire. You know what do they say about volunteers? You can count them on your hand. So well and especially this time of the year everybody's so busy but so like to get everybody to I think you need to sign soon to get even get December this year. Yes. So definitely.
Okay. So do I have a motion? I make a motion we approve the three-year contract. I already did. You're too late. You want to do it? I already did it. Oh, then I'll second. Thank you. Marne, would you call the role, please? We do not have anyone signed up for public public
comment. I forgot about the first was so wrapped up in the thing. All right, go ahead. Okay, so council member Anns. Oops. Yes. Vice Mayor Don Horton. Yes. Council member Steve Freriedman. Yes.
Council member Deb Gillis. Yes. And Mayor Sharon Mahoney. Yes. That motion passes 5 to zero. Yes, John. Thank you. Thank you. Was just going to follow up on the Ottabon question. Um I was able to find it. We do have a revocable license with them. It has a hold harmless agreement in it. We also
required um uh insurance with uh limits of uh I think it was 1 1 million and 5 million and they provided us with the evidence of uh of that insurance as well. I provided copies of everything to Ron. Um uh it was it was originally
signed under Brian Cook. Um so it was a couple years ago it's been pending and it's terminable. It's one year but automatically renews but it can be terminated by either party um on 10 days notice. It's non-exclusive. So they're not they don't have like exclusive rights to the property and it's also
limited to three boats and three vehicles. So who monitors that? That I don't know. Um, I'll we'll speak with Ron and then But there is a safety issue with somebody the the kid that fell into the water there over Easter. So I I had
talked to Peter about maybe should we fence in part of it or block it somehow because other people do use that. No, I'll tell you now. So, and Yep. Go ahead. Well, I was just thinking it's it's been open to the public all this time.
A lot of people use it. and it is our property. So just because the Ottabonss hold harmless doesn't mean everybody else's if somebody got hurt there. Correct. There there is a provision in that says the Ottabbon Society shall be responsible for maintenance and for ensuring the premises remain in good and safe
condition. So we can you know talk with Ron. We can look Can we tighten that up a little bit and maybe see what actually is going on there? Yeah. Okay. I appreciate that. Just Okay. Anything else? Move to John. Okay. Can I just have 10 seconds to ask one question?
It's very important. I guess so. Yes. Joe Wishmire, Plantation Key. This is to uh Mr. Quick and Mr. Saunders with this bill 180. How is that going to affect what Ael East is doing with our comp plan? Do you have any idea? I mean,
if it does pass, are they going to have to just postpone this or can you give me any clue as to what's going on? It wouldn't apply to all changes, just the changes that are more restrictive or burdensome. So when that comes through,
we'll have to analyze them and see if those proposed changes, which ones are more restrictive and which ones are more burdensome. And those ones might have to be held off until after October 1st, 2027, if we want to pass them. So, it's going to take some more work um on on
everybody's end to make sure we're in compliance with the law and see um you know see that we can pass what we what we want to pass, but it's going to have a significant impact. My guess we're going to let Able City know. Yeah. Oh, yes. Good. Okay. Thank you.
Okay. Meetings adjourned. Thank you everyone.