Good evening. Good evening. All right, it is uh it is 5:30, so it's ready to get we're ready to get cranking if y'all are. Uh let's see. Marne, will you call the role, please? >> Okay. Council member Steve Freriedman is
absent tonight. Um excused, of course. Um, I assume council member Gillis is on her way. >> She's going to be running late. She's stuck in this traffic. >> Council member Anna Richards >> here. Vice Mayor Sharon Mahoney >> here. >> And Mayor Don Horton. >> I'm here.
>> We have quum. >> All right. Uh, Captain Richard Black, will you lead us in the pledge, please? To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice
for all. >> All right. Thank you'all. Okay. Council, are there any requests for additions or deletions tonight? >> I have something, sir. Sir. >> Okay. Yes, ma'am. >> I would like to uh have a brief
discussion about a project uh with Peter and Richard Black we've been working on. >> Okay. Let's put that right after public comment. >> I'd appreciate that. Thank you very much. >> Okay. We do it before we get into the quasi stuff. >> And one last thing, we um talked about
Coral Shores students having access to the park. Did we need to have vote on that or is it already done? And I had a couple phone calls today asking me where that was if they get passes to the park. >> Uh I think that since we passed a
resolution with the fees, we probably need to vote on exempting them. Uh I would think I don't John >> I think it was they had to show their student ID. >> Show their student ID. Yeah. If you want to do >> student um we could do it as a waiver like a fee waiver for uh upon upon
showing their student ID. We could do it like that. If you want to do vote on >> I think it would be better. Let's we might as well do it as a motion to >> Do you want to do it in April or now or when do you want to do it? Um uh well comfortable >> what >> do we have to notice it >> then they can add it on to the agenda if they want to control I'm I'm I'm
comfortable doing it now if you want if you would rather we bring it as a formal resolution in April we can do it that way too >> I say do it >> why don't we why don't we go on dispose of that tonight so we'll do that uh after the presentation >> thank you >> all right very good um
>> you didn't asking. >> Excuse. I'm sorry, Anna. Well, yes, she's nodded her head. No. >> Anna, do you have anything you would like to change or delete? >> Nothing right now, sir. >> Okay. I wish De was on the phone. We can take care of that as well. >> Very good. Okay. Uh, let's see. Mayor
and Council Communications, Anna, do you have anything you'd like to talk about? >> Good. >> You already talked enough. >> Yes, I did. >> Yes. Thank you, Mike. >> Okay. Uh, village manager and attorney. We've got a comp plan update from Jennifer. >> Yes, we do. So, uh, good news. You all
received this morning a copy of the public draft that was sent to me late last night by our consultants, Able City East. So, we have received that. It um has also been posted to our website and I'm going to ask Frank to put that on
the screen so we can um show people. Um, we're going to guide them so we they know where to look so that there's no confusion. So, you're going to go um to departments um to planning and development services and then under um planning and
development ongoing projects there's a compre comprehensive plan update and once you click on that it should take you right to the document. So, that will be where it is for the public if they want to look at it. It's 242 pages. Um
they're welcome to look at it. Um, people can also do a public records request and we'll be happy to send them their own link if they'd like, but it's it's right up there for everybody to take a look at. Um, staff is also working with Able City East to prepare a public workshop um to unveil the draft
and to provide to accept public comment. At this time, it looks like that will be April 29th. It's a Wednesday at 5:30 here in this room. Um, that looks like that's the uh best date for between some vacation schedules and different things we had going on. So, um, right now that
looks like when we'll be doing that. So, those are the updates I have at this time. I'm happy to answer any questions that you might have about that. >> Anna, any questions? >> Vice Mayor, >> um, if we go over the draft, should we save our comments or can we come to you or how would you prefer?
>> I'm happy to take comments in writing if that's easier for you, but you're also welcome to save them for the the public workshop or provide them however you'd like. But I'm I'm happy to take comments from the public and from council as well. >> Thank you. Um, so Jennifer, have you you
just received this probably, right? >> That's correct. >> So you haven't had a chance to really go through it and see that all of those things that you had probably gone through before with them. You haven't had time to >> not today, sir. I was Brrizzy preparing for tonight's meeting.
>> Very good. All right. >> But I but I will do that prior to our workshop on the 29th. >> I know you will. I think not. No doubt. Okay. Thank you, Jennifer. Uh, also Jennifer, you're bringing up uh the plan for allocation for early
evacuation on tab A, right? >> I am. So, as you all may recall, we had this on your agenda a couple months ago. Um, this is a plan for the um 300 or now 292 early evacuation workforce affordable housing um allocations that
we have in sort of our coffers to hand out. Um the workforce affordable housing committee had worked on some suggestions, some potential LDR changes that would encourage and incentivize the use of those allocations so that we could encourage and incentivize the
creation of workforce affordable housing here in the village. I had handed this out again a couple months ago um for you to take a look at. the council wanted some time to look at it, digest it, maybe think about some additional comments or questions they might have.
Um, Mr. Mayor um attended a workforce affordable housing committee meeting and talked with them about a couple things. Um, and then I hadn't heard anything else, so I thought I'd put it back on near agenda to see if there was any additional um, comments or if there's any guidance that the council wants to
give me as far as moving some of these suggestions forward and and looking at how we would draft any LDR changes to accommodate some of these items or if if none of these interests you, we can go back to the drawing board as well. >> Uh, Anna, you got any comments about
this? >> Not right now. Vice Mayor. >> All right. I I did attend the uh um the workforce affordable housing committee meeting where they had gone back through these uh once again that the this is
this is a final outcome of several well probably about a year's worth of work going back and forth. You know, there's been of course changes in the committee, but they kept pushing this forward and and adding to this. It's it it's a it's
a good guideline and it gives a a you know a criteria for establishing a reservation of rights which we didn't have before. If you remember when I was on the other side of the DAS, I had asked the previous council uh before I
was elected to save, you know, to do some reservation rights for some as we were getting near the end and they just couldn't figure out how to do that because there wasn't anything documented there. So, this they they uh they went through that. There's also some uh uh
grant funding that's that's that's in this document that uh I worked on with them when I was with the affordable before I was elected and and they've massaged that as well. Um I I think that um
I I think I I guess do you need a recommendation to bring this as for a resolution at this point or an ordinance? Jennifer, how does this >> I think what I'm asking for is just some guidance because some of the things these things are going to require changes to our LDRs. Um maybe additional
changes to our comprehensive plan that we can incorporate in this new update. So just some guidance from the council like is this document something you want to see moved forward? Are there anything is there anything in here you're not particularly happy with or interested in moving forward? Um do you like how some
of these things are laid out? um those kinds of things so that I know to move these forward or to not move these forward is is what I'm looking for. >> Right. Um what's the counselor pleasure? Can is it I I personally am okay moving
this forward where Jennifer can go on and get this completed if it has to go in front of the uh or into our comp plan or in our LDRs. That's going to require a lot more work. But going in the comp plan is the time to do that. So, I I
think that it it it helps it will help applicants get through the process on affordable housing. And if you know, as you know, we're we're getting almost to the end of of regular market rate and and we're going to be looking to still build more affordable
housing. So, >> I'm nodding ahead. Okay. So, we're Let's move this forward then. >> Great. Thank you so much. >> Awesome. Thank you. >> Okay. Why don't we open up to uh general public comment? >> I do not have anyone signed up.
>> I haven't signed. Is that regarding that element right there? >> Uh you you can discuss anything you'd like right now if you'd like to under general public comment. >> Dr. Anything? >> Well, we'll put you on the spot and you can you can do that later. Just >> give us My name my name is Michael
Hulie. I am a homeowner down here in Island Marada and I'm also the guy that is going to be uh developing a project um right next to the Fisher in affordable housing. That was a great thing that you did. I just walked in here kind of late. That was fantastic
for you to move that forward because those elements in that guideline right there are really a kind of make or break projects uh like the one that I'm trying to develop to invest in our community so that we can have more affordable units available. I looked at Zillow the other
day. I think there's like six units available under 2500 bucks right now for rent in our village. And of those six, I think five of them are unlivable. I wouldn't even go near those things. So, here we are. We're trying to bring a project forward. 40 43 affordable units.
And it has been a real struggle to get this thing pushed through. So, I really appreciate that uh commissioner pushing that forward. That's fantastic. and whatever the next hurdle is, if you could uh keep pushing it, Jennifer, we certainly do appreciate it. But thank you very much for your support. Great
work right there. Thank you. >> Thank you, Mr. Hurley. >> Thank you, sir. >> Jennifer, no one else. >> I mean, I'm sorry, Marty. I was looking at Jennifer nodding her head. >> There's no one else signed up. >> Well, then why don't we let Chief Chief
Ael talk to us because he's mosying up here >> as usual. I didn't fill out a form. Um, friendly reminder, March 21st, Founders Park, uh, annual giveback barbecue from the fire department. So, if you live in the village, come on out. It's absolutely free. Got hamburgers, hot
dogs, pork, baked beans, corn, coleslaw, and all that good stuff. So, I'll be there bright and early before most of y'all are up making your coffee and cooking all day. But, uh, if you want, swing on by. Come on by and support. Thank you, guys. >> Thanks, Chief.
All right. Uh, we'll move on. Hearing no more public comment. No one signed up. No raised hands. Nobody on Zoom. We got everybody covered. >> We've got it recovered. I'm aware. >> Good deal. Well, then why don't we go on and move on to whatever it was you wanted to talk about? >> Yes. Thank you. Should we wait for Deb
or just go? >> She's here. >> She's here. If Yeah. Why don't if you want to wait, that's great. >> Do you want to do the um the fee waiver? Um that might be less controversial. the motion on the Coral Shore students. >> We can do that. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah.
>> Okay. So, we've had a kind of out of discussion. If you want to have more discussion on this, we can. Or I can open it up to public comment if anybody wants to make a public comment about the fee waiver for students that that are going to our high school to come or actually any of our schools to come into our park.
>> I move to approve it. >> We got to make a motion. >> I know. I made a motion. >> There's a motion. >> Second. >> And there's a second. Welcome, Dev. And >> I'm sorry for the backup of traffic. >> Just uh so the uh just so we're
completely clear, it's a motion to um wave the fees for entrance to Founders Park for any uh students at a um uh >> Monroe County School. >> Monroe County School upon showing their student ID. >> That's correct. Yes. Yes, sir. >> Thank you.
>> There's a motion and a second on the table. Um is there any more discussion? I wasn't here. >> You wasn't here when you happened anyway. Okay. Is are there any no votes? All right. Hearing none, then the motion will carry by unanimous well by the
unanimous of the three and then we'll welcome death. Uh and then >> ready >> the presentation. Yeah, go for it. It's your thing. >> Frank, would you Is he in the booth? I can't even see him. >> Frank, are you there? >> Okay. If he'd put this up
>> there, it's behind you. Um, a couple years ago on council, I brought up uh the need for more ramps in uh this alamarati area for boats, for guides, for residents, for everybody. And I had
looked at renovating the second ramp, which was a ramp >> years ago. The old ramp, the old ramp. And you know, I understand there's a lot of seaggrass and Peter was not, you know, didn't want me re ruining the environment. And so it was sort of shot
down. Yep. >> Well, now here's a new and updated plan that we've been working on with Richard Black. And Peter has given me his blessing with this one. Hopefully that
we want to uh renovate the existing ramp and make it double the size. at the same time renovate our parking situation, which is pretty weird down there by the marina. Uh fill the areas that flood,
move some of those abandoned trailers, and make it a ramp that it will not only service our guides who greatly need it, the residents, and more people who want to come to Founders Park. So, I'm bringing this forward. I've got if
Richard and Peter would come up. They're the experts. I'm sort of uh uh I'm really the brains behind the operation, but they know more about it. I want the council's approval to move forward to see if this is feasible. I have talked
to the TDC. There is brick andmortar funding uh available. Uh they've been very very supportive of this and there's also some grants that we can go after to get so this would be covered. Uh hopefully the taxpayers aren't looking
at if anything very minimal. Plus, we have a lot of guides who have customers who would support this. So, I'm looking for the council's support and moving forward. You guys, anything you want to say? I know Richard, >> I want you to lay it out better than I
did for the fireboat for Terry and for Nelson. So, this is uh I I didn't when I drew this at home, I was not expecting this to be on uh on the main screen here, but it it's just a rough sketch. So, the idea uh from going back and forth with creating another ramp and all
that, it it definitely makes more sense to do this to renovate what we have. And I don't know how many of you have used this ramp uh that we have existing um or have talked to people in our community that have used the ramp, but we have a
terrible ramp. Um it it is not really usable. Many of our residents actually go up to Harry Harris because they can't launch a boat here. So kind of fixing the situation that we have is good for both our residents u and for guides to
be able to use and for people coming to visit Alam Marada. Um, in the sketch that I have here, um, I kind of came up with an idea of, you know, widening the ramp, um, to allow, you know, two two launching areas, you know, one ramp but
two two bays basically. Um, and then where the existing rock structure, a point here, this is the the rock jetty that sticks out currently, um, would be to remove that and then create uh, sort of a T- dock feature there that would
allow some dockage. uh permanently for our police and fire boats to have. So they're not having to come in there and Nelson's not having to wedge between some liabs. They would actually have their own designated location. And then at the very end of the dock, you could tie up for staging, you know, just to
park your truck and go back to the boat. So um and extending the the existing little finger pier on the western side of the dock as well, um to give people access and and just make the ramp all around better. So, >> thank you, Richard. >> Peter, do you want to jump in there and
tell me how this is environmentally better than my last suggestion? >> Okay. Well, good evening, council. Peter FZ, environmental resources manager. So, yes, what I could add, it's not so much a blessing, vice mayor, as you know, direction that goes to the to the
manager to me. So, with this proposal, I do feel that this would get uh permitted. Uh the former project I did not because we were dealing with outstanding Florida water and highly sensitive resources. This is a a formerly dredged basin. Uh it's not OFW.
So I do feel we probably could get this permitted. Similar projects like this have happened in the village in the past few years. Um so what I would suggest if the council does want to move forward with this, the first logical step is to do a basic design like a conceptual
design. We would hire an engineer for this. We need consulting for this kind of work because we need drawings and we need some real engineering work. What they would do was come up with a a conceptual plan, a design based on what I also would recommend is user input,
stakeholder input in this. So we we need what uh the community wants for the ramp. You know, we'll use local experts and that will guide the engineer engineers drawings. Um, we also have conflicts. I believe there's going to be some conflicts with utilities,
especially the gas. The gas tanks are going to be right in the way of this, I believe. And then also all the gas switches. Um, and I don't know what's underground, but we also need to look into the utility conflict. So, I would recommend doing that as part of this initial project as well. And just keep
it simple so we have a a plan and then we can move into, you know, looking for grants and then um, you know, look into permitting. Um, so that's what I would suggest if if the council wants to move forward. The final thing with that is that's going to have a cost. As you know, we did not budget for that this
year, but if you want to give direction to Ron for us to, you know, try and funds for this, find funds this year for that, we could do that. Um, yeah, I think that's that's about it. We could start one one more thing to add
to um that you know talking with Ron about in our kind of park plan. We have the parking as part of the park plan separate from the marina. Um the idea that I would like to see is not piece this together. Let let's if we if you
approve to go ahead and do something, let's do it all at once. you know, do the parking, do the marina, the, you know, make that all right, uh, at one time instead of fixing this and then fixing that and fixing this. So, this would be taking it away from that master
plan and putting it into this. So, that that's just that's it. >> Anna, you have any questions? I >> I would completely agree with that. Sorry, I didn't bring that up. I think if we're going to do this design, we add in the conceptual design of the parking too cuz we can't do this with the current parking state.
>> And then the cost of this, I think we could probably do this first stage for under $50,000, but similar proposals have been in the $30 to $50,000 range just to give you an idea of cost. >> Thank you. Jennifer, you had a question. >> Not a question. I just want to note that
um any redevelopment right there is going to require a site plan review which would have to encompass the parking um issues um in that area. So they would have to redesign I was going to ask that question. So they would have to do a full site plan review under the planning department
>> and and include all of that as well. So >> So uh Peter, do you have do you think that there's any benthos in that area with hard and soft corals that are in that rock area, the jetty area? There's probably going to be some minor seaggrass.
Um, but very minor because we did dredge the what we call the mud slips a few years ago. Yes. >> And it was negligible. >> Okay. >> So, I don't think this is going to be a a big issue if we do this with with any type of resources. >> There are mangroves though.
>> Um, we would have to excavate that entire swath of mangroves that exists on that rock jetty. Uh, mangroves aren't nearly as hard or difficult to to mitigate for than seaggrass or coral. Um, so, >> but we'll still have to mitigate.
>> Oh, yeah. We'd have to pay and and plant or, you know, a combination of both or just pay. >> Yeah. >> But, you know, the cost wouldn't be as great as Yeah. Seagrass. It It probably would be negligible as well. And are we uh
we're talking about doing uh parking. So are we talking about changing any hours of operation as well or because this you we keep bringing up the captains. The captains like to go out a lot earlier and captains sometimes come in a lot later. So Richard, hang on a second,
please. This we're amongst ourselves. >> No, I'm going to let Richard answer this. We talked about this in our meeting. >> I just wanted to chime in and then I can let you guys answer. Um, ideally I would like to see some hours change. Um, you know, opening up and not just for fishing guides use, but just for our
local people because as as the hours are right now at 8 to 6, you know, even local people like to get on the water before 8 and I've watched many times in the afternoon someone has to come down here and they miss miss the closing and they have to bring a trailer home and they got to figure out something to do
with a boat. Have you um well since you're up here have have you brought this to the Upper Keys fishing guides? >> Yes. Yes, we have discussed this. >> And and is there a consensus among them? >> Yeah. I the the general consensus is everybody would like to see this done. I
think everybody's concerned about the future of boating access and having something that would be usable. Um, you know, I I don't see fishing guides flooding into this location, but you know, maybe less than 10 for a number of
years while everything's going and then having, you know, access for our local people as well. So, I you know, I think it's it's a combo use um is what I see it as. >> I I think as as stakeholders in the community, it would be good if you could get the guides association to give us a letter.
>> I we can definitely do that. Yes. I you know it it I don't want to give the impression that one captain even though we love you to death comes up here and says I wanted y you know y'all to give approval to spend you know uh $200,000 or4 million on on changing this ramp
because that's what I want. So, I think it'd be important that the guides association weigh in. And we know that that it's a need in the community rather than, >> you know, just a want. I And I know it is because I've launched there, too. >> And and it but I think that's important.
>> I think that sends the right message, >> right? And there's plenty of ways the the funding can be raised through the guides association, through events and things. It is something that the access to the water here is getting harder and harder. You're right. >> And the ramp is not in good shape.
Everybody I've talked to doesn't even want to use it. So, this is sort of And our parking is so goofy down there. >> So, it'd be sort of uh something for the future, something for now. You know, the hours we don't have to make a huge adjustment to start. We can take baby
steps on seeing when we need to go to license plate readers at the front gate anyhow instead of somebody physically being there or something. So there's there's a lot to work out, but I think this is a step in the right direction. And uh Deb, do you have anything you
want to say? No. Anybody else? Anybody have any questions for Peter or for Richard? So that we've been working on this for a while. So where where Go ahead. >> Where where can I get a copy of that map or that drawing?
>> I have it and I will get it for you. Okay. I do have it, don't I? >> Richard, you can draw another one. >> Um, okay. So, um, Ron, why don't you you or Peter help us
with the next step? I I think, uh, you know, I think the first thing is a cost analysis and and for us to approve an expenditure that's not in the budget and and uh because you're looking at you're looking at a year to get this permitted
anyway. So the big cost >> the big cost is going to be during the construction part but the design cost your estimate is 50,000. I don't >> I think that maybe Ron needs to start seeing where he's
going to find that money in the budget because we >> we gave we gave him a tight budget to begin with. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. We've had that discussion. I've asked Peter to go out and and see about getting some cost estimates first and see if we can, you know, what the extent
of it is going to be and we we might be able to find it within our current budget parameters. I if it's over 25,000, I'd have to bring it back to the council in the April meeting. So, my my plan would be by the April meeting to have something before you at least from a cost analysis to say this is what it's going to cost. Uh we also have some
people that have indicated they might be willing to you know donate some money towards it or somehow pay for some of the costs too. And so we're looking at that also but we want to keep the upfront costs as minimal as possible. At the same time we're already looking into as Vice Mayor Mahoney said we're looking
into some potential grants from TDC and others and the state and even federal government. We had I had the discussion with Mr. Davenport who we just renewed the contract to see if there's any federal dollars for example. So, we're going to look at every source for grants, but unfortunately, you have to have the engineering stuff done to get
the grant. And so, we're just looking at the seed money basically to get this thing going to be able to get in front of the the authorities like the TDC. We have a one of our DAC four people here. I'm sure she'd have a very a lot of influence there, too. >> I just actually I don't get to vote on that
stuff because I sit here. >> Because you're here, right? >> Yes. But I just want to remind you that any of the TDC money has to allow the general public and tourists >> and that's it's it's a requirement. >> Figure that into the plan. All right.
>> We already did. I guess I'm just looking to see if there's an appetite to look at this. I think it's a win-win for the community, for the guides, for everybody. >> All right. Well, then I I I Debb >> Well, I I'd approve looking at the the
the cost of it be I >> Yeah, >> I didn't I didn't oppose the other ramp. I thought it was a good idea. I opposed the cost of the other ramp. Mhm. >> So I just that other ramp I didn't think was going to go anyway with core and D having to do all the dredging and all of
that seaggrass out there and all but >> this one they've got a better chance at and and Peter doesn't think there's >> you know too much seaggrass or benthos then we're probably going to be a little better off there. So it sounds to me like there's at least a consensus for you to put together a cost analysis and
bring it to us in the April meeting. And that cost analysis would include actually putting the ramp in the the construction of the ramp, not just the permitting in. Right. >> Well, I don't know that the initial would have all that because really I think we're trying to get as a
conceptual design plan without a lot of the cost associated just to see if it's something feasible to do that we can put in for the grant application. I'm not sure how much of a overall cost assessment be because we also for example looking at maybe straighten out
the parking situation which would be included but not really directly related to the ramp but if it has impacts on it. I figure as long as we're because we did discuss this, as long as we're looking at the boat ramp and the impacts on parking, then we should fix the parking problem. And we we've already cleaned
up, for example, the hill where we can maybe have some of the stuff put over there and and looking at cleaning up the park, which has been a goal for years. Um, and so that's what we're looking at now. >> But as far as an overall cost, I don't know if we're going to get that right away. >> All right. But
I wouldn't be much in favor of I'm in favor of trying to figure out how much it costs and everything, but if I don't know, I'll throw a stupid figure out there. If it's a million dollars, I mean, we can get we can get an estimate for the first half of it for 50,000.
That's one thing. If doing the other side of it is we don't have the million, you know, we need to know what the final cost is. And I know we don't know that upfront, but there's got to be a way of estimating where that be, whether that's between
200 and 500,000, but something to give us a guideline. >> We can we can work on that. I'll work on that. I'll work on that. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. So, I I'll work on getting a, you know, just a swag number on what it's going to cost to dredge and move the rocks and I can work on that. I'll get
that. I'll have that for by April. >> Okay. >> Good deal. All right. So, we good? >> Uh, yeah. Ron's got his direction. >> Thank you, Richard. Thank you, Catherine. Appreciate it. >> Thank you, Richard. Thank you, Peter. >> Okay, so we're going to move forward with looking at a conceptual D. We can
ask for an engineer's opinion of probable cost with the design. You're going to struggle getting an estimate. We don't know what we're doing. >> So, the reason of doing the conceptual design first, then you can get an estimate. So we can ask for >> you can swag a number off of what he's
doing there because we know what the dredging's going to cost and moving those rocks are going to cost and >> and and we know what the cost of concrete is. Certainly the the engineers >> Yeah. Sometimes they design something that is pretty wacky but
>> yeah I'm just trying to get Yeah. Right. >> I put in 50 of them. So >> I I'm just trying to get a rough idea. Like I said I threw a million dollars out there. That's crazy to do that. Yeah. I don't think it is that. I do not. I'm just pulling in a figure out to
to make a point. >> Yeah. But why spend 50 grand on and then all of a sudden be hit with that and we don't >> Exactly. So, >> Exactly. >> We're good. Okay. >> Thank you guys. Thank you, Richard. >> Thank you very much. >> Moving on. Uh quasi uh let's see, John.
>> Yep. We're into the quasi judicial section of the agenda. There's three uh quasi judicial items today. They're tabs B, C, and D. They're all administrative relief items. Uh please be advised that the following agenda items are quasi judicial in nature. If you wish to comment on these items, please inform the village clerk by filling out the
available signup form. An opportunity for persons to speak on each item will be made available after the applicant and staff have made their presentations on each item. As a reminder, testimony and quasi judicial items must be in person. Zoom testimony is not permitted. These proceedings will be handled in accordance with the village code requirements. All testimony, including
public testimony and evidence, will be made under oath or affirmation. Additionally, each person who gives testimony, may be subject to cross-examination. If you do not wish to be either cross-examined or sworn, your testimony shall be disregarded. The general public will not be permitted to cross-examine witnesses, but the public may request the council to ask questions
of staff or witnesses on their behalf. The full agenda packet on each item is hereby entered into the record along with the village code and comprehensive plan. Any correspondence that was received by the village staff is included in the file and part of the record. Persons representing organizations must present evidence of their authority to speak to the organization. Further details of the
quasi judicial procedures in sections uh 230-256 of the village code may be obtained from the village clerk. As mentioned tonight, there's three quasi judicial items. There's tabs B, C, and D. At this time, I would like to ask anyone who intends to speak on the quasi judicial items tonight to please raise
your hand to be sworn in by the clerk. In the matter in which you are about to give testimony, do you swear or affirm that you will support or excuse me that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? >> Witnesses have been sworn. >> Um, Mr. Mayor, tab B is stated as
follows. A resolution of the village council of Alamara Village of Islands, Florida, concerning the request of Morales um Rev Living Trust, AGR 2 uh 2-16-207 for administrative relief from the village building permit allocation
system BPASS for property located at 125 Mockingbird Road, Plantation Key as legally described in exhibit A, providing for the transmitt of this department uh the transmitt to the Department of Commerce and providing for an effective date. Before we begin, council, uh, if you would please disclose any exparte communications that
you may have had with the applicant or anyone else. Again, this is on tab B and please include whether the person represented any group or entity as well as the subject matter as you recall. >> Thank you, John. Uh, Anna, any exparte? >> Nope. >> Vice Mayor? >> Nope.
>> None. >> Okay. Uh, none for me either. >> We are ready to proceed. >> Good evening, council. Jennifer Deborri, planning director for the village of Vio Marada. I'm here this evening to discuss the administrative relief application for 125 Mockingbird Road. Morales Rev
Living Trust AGR021-62017 is the applicant and has applied for administrative relief pursuant to section 30-477 of the code of ordinances of Isa Marada village of Islands. Village code section 30-477 requires that at a public hearing be
held during which the village council of Isa Marada shall consider all evidence presented regarding the application and shall follow the procedures, standards, and criteria found within code sections 30-552 and 30-553 beneficial use. The burden of
proof shall be on the applicant. The subject property is located at 125 Mockingbird Road and legally described in exhibit A of the proposed resolution. The application was entered into the building permit allocation system on November 22nd, 2021. The application has
been considered in four consecutive annual allocation periods and has failed to receive an allocation award. At the close of quarter 4 of 2025, the application was ranked fifth with 20 points. Pursuant to the requirements set forth in code section 30-477A,
the applicant was eligible to apply for administrative relief between 12:01 p.m. on January 1st, 2026 and 12:00 p.m. on May 1st, 2026. The applicant submitted an application for administrative relief on January 1st, 2026. The proposed development is a is one
single family, fourbedroom, 3 and 1 halfb home and appro with a at approximately 2,875 square ft. The site is approximately 7,700 square ft with the allowed clearing and mitigation based on any habitat. My full analysis is in your
packet and additionally any the additional information provided by the applicant was the property owner has complied with all requirements of the building permit allocation system. The BPASS application has not been withdrawn at any time. The property owner has not applied for a
deferral. The applicant as stated is seeking an allocation award. Remedies offered under code section 30-477F include at the conclusion of the public hearing, the village council may take any com or a combination of the following actions. One, grant the
application of an allocation award for all or part of the allocation requested in the next succeeding allocation period. Offer to purchase the property at its fair market value. Or three, suggest any other relief as may be necessary and appropriate. The village currently has 13 allocations available
for administrative relief and at this time staff recommends awarding the administrative relief allocation and I'm available to answer any questions you might have regarding the application. >> Thank you Jennifer. Um Anna, do you have any questions? >> I do. >> Okay.
>> Comments, questions? Um so this is all based on their property, but their warranty deed is incorrect. So, I don't know if anybody's caught that or not, but it's listing the wrong subdivision and the wrong parcel ID number.
>> That's true. I'm being told that in that case we would need to defer it until we would could correct that situation. >> While we're talking about this, did you have other comments, Anna? >> No, that was that was it. I was just looking at looking over all the
paperwork. And >> I my question was um Jennifer, did you guys look back in the history and see when this uh when this property got a seaw wall and the tiki hut and and the improvements that are on the property? It the it looks like the the tiki hut
went in in 1989 which would have required a permit and and the concrete dock and seaw wall in 76 which would have required a permit. Was that was it unified or combined with another property at some time? I don't believe so. I don't think we could find we didn't we we did we do look back and see
when permits were issued for the accessory structures. Um but I we could not find to my knowledge any unit unity of title on any um recent property or lot split on any of the property that I'm aware of >> cuz since since 1986 they wouldn't have
been able to have a accessory structures without first having a principal. >> That is correct. there uh prior to my um employment with the village there were uh previous planning directors who did allow for if a property was in BPASS I don't it wasn't in this case but if a
property was in BP pass waiting for an allocation they did allow for uh accessory structures to be built with the anticipation of receiving an allocation so there may be instances where that is not 100% true but that's not the case here because these are
these are older structures >> beforeation Right. >> Well, I think we're we're we're normally pretty good about issuing uh you know these these things for administrative relief, but I think there's some questions on his property that
especially the warranty deed. >> I apologize we didn't catch that. >> Yeah, it looks like their application listed the same uh partial ID number that we have, but the warranty deed has a is one is a different digit on one of them. So, >> and the subdivision is incorrect. >> Yeah. So it um I I would suggest that we
um >> if we're if we're applying this towards exhibit A and exhibit A is incorrect then >> exactly I would I would recommend that we defer this um that way we get clarification if uh if this is the correct deed and if so we would need to correct the documents and make sure the
record is complete and supports the uh administrative relief >> and if everything works out there's this isn't going to harm them for missing their deadline of making an application or getting approved or anything like that? >> No, they've already met the deadline to apply. So, we can defer it and just keep the application active until we can
correct the issue. >> All right. >> Okay. >> Very good. Then, uh you don't we'll just defer it. We don't need a motion or anything just to defer this. >> I think we do need a motion and I would um uh defer it. Uh >> usually we Yeah, the code says we have to defer it to a date and time.
>> So, we'll do >> Jennifer, are you going to be okay on the next meeting, the next April meeting? I would I would I would push it off to May just to be safe because I don't know what they're going to need to do to correct the the warranty deed. >> Okay. So, we'll do it as a time certain
the uh the May meeting >> and and I would ask that um we do it to the Tuesday meeting in May because I'm unavailable on your Thursday meeting in May. >> Very good. >> Okay. >> Can we can do that? Can you map that out for us, John? >> Yeah, it would.
>> Let me pull up the date. >> We have May 14th as the next land use council in May. There's one in April, but you're saying you want to skip the April one, >> but we're not going to do the land use. So, we'll do the Tuesday night. >> It's Yeah, it's May 12th. May 12th is the regular one. May 14th is the next land use. >> So, can I have the land use items are
going to be on the 12th on in May? >> We're combining them into the 12th. Okay. >> So, can I have a motion to to defer this to the May 12th meeting? >> Yeah, I'll make a motion to defer it so that I can get this corrected. >> Can I have a second? >> A second. >> Very good. So, we got a motion to
second. Can I Let's call the role on this one, please, Marty. >> Okay. Council member Anna Richards. >> Yes. >> Council member Deb Gillis. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Sharon Mahoney. >> Yes. >> And Mayor Don Horton. >> Yes. >> The motion passes 4 Z. >> And that was it was um continued to this
place at 5:30 on May 12th so that we don't have to readvertise. That is what we said. >> Yes, ma'am. >> To further clarify. Very good. Thank you. All right. Let's move to the next one, guys. Tab C is a resolution of the
village council of Vamara Village, Florida concerning the request by Joselyn A and Brian M. Tedman for administrative relief from the village building permit allocation system BP pass for property located at 140 Key Heights Drive, Plantation Key as legally described in exhibit A, providing for transmitt to the Department of Commerce
and providing for an effective date. Council, again before we begin, if you will please disclose any exparte communications you may have had and please include whether the person represented any group or entity as well as the subject matter uh as you best recall. >> Uh Anna, >> nothing. >> Vice Mayor, >> no. Deb,
>> nothing. >> Okay. And I've had none. Thank you. >> Thank you again. Jennifer Deborri playing director for the village ma. I'm here this evening to discuss the administrative relief application for 140 keyhides drive. Joselyn A and Brian M. Tedman the applicants and have
applied for administrative relief pursuant to section 30-477 of the code of ordinances of Marada village of islands village code section 30-477 requires that a public hearing be held during which the village council of shall consider all evidence presented
regarding the application and shall follow the procedures standards and criteria found within the code sections 30-552 and 30-553 beneficial use the burden of proof shall be on the applicant The subject property is located at 140 Key Heights Drive and legally described
in exhibit A as the propo of the proposed resolution. The application was entered into the building permit allocation system on December 1st, 2021. The application has been considered in four consecutive annual allocation periods and has failed to receive an allocation award. At the close of
quarter 4 of 2025, the application was ranked sixth with 20 points. Pursuant to the requirements set forth in code section 30-477A, the applicant was eligible to apply for administrative relief between 12:01 p.m. on January 1st, 2026 and 12:00 p.m. on
May 1st, 2026. The applicant submitted the application for administrative relief on January 3rd, 2026. The proposed development is one single family, three-bedroom, two-b home approximately 1,232 ft. The site is approximately 6,600
square f feet with allowed clearing and mitigation based on habitat. My full analysis is in your packet and additional information provided by the applicant is that the property owner has complied with all requirements of the building permit allocation system. The BPASS application has not been
withdrawn at any time. The property owner has not applied for a deferral and the applicant has stated is seeking an allocation award. remedies offered under code section 30-477F. At the occlusion of this public hearing, the village council may take any or a combination of the following actions.
Grant the applicant an allocation award for all or part of the allocation requested in the next succeeding allocation period. Offer to purchase the property at its fair market value or suggest any such other relief as may be necessary and appropriate. The village
currently has 13 allocations available for administrative relief and at this time staff recommends awarding the administrative relief allocation and again I'm available to answer any questions about this application that you may have. >> Thank you Jennifer. Uh do we need testimony
from the applicant? >> Uh yes. >> Okay. >> Just say if she wants to. >> Yeah. Just sweet and simple. I know this isn't a tough one hopefully. Um, no, just nice residential neighborhood. Purchased >> Could you could you introduce yourself
and give your address? >> Absolutely. Sorry. Jocelyn Tedman, 127 Coconut Row, um, Tavanir. Um, yeah. So, I purchased this property from the adjoining neighbor over four years ago. You know, I supplied. It's a nice high residential neighborhood. Very limited
habitat on the property as far as trees. I don't think there's actually any within the footprint clearing. Um, and I'm just pretty much here to answer questions if you have any. Simple enough. >> So, the property appraisers showing a bunch of trees on there, but you don't
think that there's any where you're going to build? >> Well, no. I mean, they're in the rear property line and the rear setbacks. Okay. >> I mean, Jennifer, I don't know if you have my veg survey, but >> I don't have it with me, but um our GIS does not show any mapped habitat on the property.
>> It does not. So, it's not mapped as a hammock or anything in that neighborhood. >> That's correct. >> All right. Um All right. Uh is there any other testimony that we need to have on this on the village side?
>> Questions. Does anybody have any questions for >> um Joselyn? >> Nope. Okay. So, we would open it to if there's any um uh public testimony in starting with anybody in support of the uh application and then followed by
anyone in opposition. >> Very good. So, is there any any testimony that needs to be given in favor of this applicant? >> I have no one signed up. >> Okay. And then there is there any in opposition? >> Also, no one signed up for that either. >> Very good. Okay. Then we'll close the
testimony. Do you need any closing arguments, ma'am? >> No. >> Good deal. Do I have a motion? Discussion. Anything? >> I'll make a motion. >> I may make make a motion to approve. >> Very good. Do I have a second?
>> Second. >> Got a motion in a second. Marty, will you please call the role? >> Council member Deb Dillis. >> Yes. >> Council member Anna Richards. >> Yes. >> Vice Mayor Sharon Mahoney. >> Yes. >> And Mayor Don Horton. >> Yes. >> That motion passes four to zero.
>> Very good. John, let's move on to tab D. >> Tab D is a resolution of the village council of Alamara Village of Islands, Florida, considering the request by Island Investment Partners, Inc. for administrative relief from the village building uh permit allocation system BPASS for property located at 101 Stromboli Drive, Plantation Key as
legally described in exhibit A, providing for transmitt to the Department of Commerce, and providing for an effective date. And uh once more, council, if u before we begin, if you please disclose any exparte communications you may have had with the applicant or anyone else. Um, and please include whether the that person
represent any group or entity as well as the subject matter as you uh best recall. >> Thank you very much, John. Uh, Deb, >> none. >> Anna, >> none. >> Vice Mayor, >> nope. >> None for me either. Thank you. >> Thank you again, council. Jennifer Deborri and planning director with the
village of Marada. I'm here to discuss the administrative relief, excuse me, application for 101 Strumboli Drive. Diana Montigudo is the applicant and has applied for administrative relief on behalf of Island Investment Partners, Inc.
pursuant to section 30-477 of the code of ordinances of Marada village of Islands. Village Code section 30-477 requires that a public hearing be held during which the village council of Marada shall consider all evidence presented regarding the application and
shall follow the procedures, standards, and criteria found within code sections 30-552 and 30-553 beneficial use. The burden of proof shall be on the applicant. The subject property is located at 101 Stromboly Drive and legally described in exhibit A of the
proposed resolution. The application was entered into the building permit allocation system on October 12th, 2021. The application has been considered in four consecutive annual allocation periods and has failed to receive an allocation award. At the close of quarter 4 of 2025, the application was
ranked 19th with 18 points. Pursuant to the requirements set forth in code section 30-477A, the applicant was eligible to apply for administrative relief between 12:01 p.m. on January 1st, 2026 and 12 p.m. on May 1st, 2026. The applicant submitted the
application for administrative relief on January 28th, 2026. The proposed development is one single family, three-bedroom, two-b home approximately 1,739 ft. The site is approximately 8,740 ft with allowed clearing and mitigation
based on habitat. My full analysis is in your packet and additional information provided by the applicant. The property owner has complied with all requirements in the building permit allocation system. The BP pass application has not been withdrawn at any time. The property owner has not applied for a deferral and
the applicant has stated is seeking as stated is seeking an allocation award. Remedies under offered under code section 30-477F. At the occlusion of this public hearing, the village council may take any or a combination of the following actions. Grant the applicant an allocation award
for all or part of the allocation requested in the next sening allocation period. Offer to purchase the property at its fair market value or suggest suggest such other relief as may be necessary and appropriate. Currently, the village has 12 allocations available
for administrative relief. At this time, staff recommends awarding the administrative relief application. And again, I'm available to answer any questions you may have about this application. >> Thank you, Jennifer. >> Uh, council, any questions for Jennifer or is there anyone here that would like
to uh uh give testimony in favor of this application? >> There's no one signed up. >> Is there anyone who would like to oppose this application? >> No one signed up for that either. >> Very good. All right. Uh, hearing none,
I'm going to close testimony and then, um, I guess we'll entertain a motion. >> Motion to approve. >> Got a motion to approve. Can I have a second? >> I'll second it. >> Okay, we've got a motion and a second.
Marne, will you please call the role? >> Council member Anna Richards, >> yes. >> Vice Mayor Sharon Mahoney, >> yes. >> Council member Deb Gillis, >> yes. and Mayor Don Horton. >> Yes. >> That motion passes four to zero. >> All right. Is there any other business we have to do for the village tonight?
>> May I ask a question? >> Yes, ma'am. >> I assume you already did tab A or did it get pulled? The one on affordable housing recommendations. >> I'm happy to if you have comments or questions. they just um gave me
direction to move forward and and bring some of these things forward through uh any LDRs or comp plan changes that might be necessary. But if you have comments, questions, or concerns, I'm happy to listen to those at this time because you weren't here. >> Love to hear them. >> Councilwoman Gillis, >> um I would like to hear the whole
conversation. So, I guess I'll just get with Jennifer on some of the stuff that I thought. >> Okay. There there wasn't >> I'll I'll watch the tape. I'm there wasn't a whole lot of conversation. Um uh I I attended the the last workshop
that they had uh the affordable housing workshop and this is a list that has has been growing for the past year uh really maybe a little long actually longer than a year. Uh many of these recommendations came from uh before this council was
even convened >> and many of the comments that were on there. You and I have been very strong oppon not opponents >> proponents >> proponents thank you for all >> of of affordable housing. Um and most of
these things I think are fine. Um I would like to consider on um number nine tab C that the 180 days on the reservation be moved to 360. Sometimes when applying for grants, it takes a
whole lot longer than 6 months to get that through. And then the same would be through for item D where it talks about it being um 90 days, move it to 180 days. >> Um
that's I guess that's something you know the grants the grants wouldn't have to be I mean I guess it's just the application for the grant, right? Um, I took this as the amount of time that they could hold
>> complete the application to apply for the permit. That's that that's that's all that is is not not not for the grant but for them to come to council and and have a reservation for a certain number and then have their plans and their
application in house >> to the building department by 180 days. That was the intent, right, Jennifer? Yeah, I believe the intent of that was that you would reserve a certain number of allocations for a project and then that they would have either 180 days or
whatever to apply for a permit to use utilize those allocations and then if they didn't do that, those allocations would then go back into the grand pool. >> So that's 6 months of just >> I still think that there's a problem with some of like the tax credits. they have to have the allocations in order to
apply and and those allocations are only issued maybe twice a year. I'm I'm sorry. That's >> I think I think not to interrupt, but I think what um Councilwoman Gillis is referring to is like if it's a a property or project and a developer is
utilizing like federal income low-inccome tax credits, those have to be applied for so far in advance from even applying for permits and doing those kinds of things. But in order to do that through those programs, those federal programs, they need a commitment
from the the city, town, village, whatever that we will allow them to build. So the way they do that is get a reservation from us. So, I think her concern is that if it's a like a affordable housing developer that's utilizing a low-inccome tax credit
program, they would be applying for a reservation from us, say, a year in advance of applying for a permit because they need that for the the low-inccome tax credit grant program that they're applying for through the federal government, but they wouldn't be applying for the permit maybe 6 8
months, 9 months down the road, maybe even a year down the road because of that because they're only utilizing izing the reservation for the income tax credit program. Did I say that right? >> Yeah, that's what I was trying to say.
You did good. >> You're following what? >> I'm following exactly, but I I just I hate to tie up a and let's let's say that you got a developer that that wants
is is anticipating I I don't know. I can't imagine it being more than 50 or so >> no >> units. I don't know that our property any of our properties are like big enough unless they do get there was one
in here you know to to increase density ability to increase density for for a particular project. So, I can't imagine >> some of some of the tax credits will take um >> um scattered sites to get to whatever
number that they need, but they do have to have the uh an allocation promise in front of them before they can even apply for the tax credit. So, Jennifer, how would that affect um how would that affect Joe Lunchbox if he
comes in here and we've already taken the 10% in advance and he can't now he's not going to be able because they're locked up, right? >> Correct. >> Yeah. >> Um I also just want to mention and and you're welcome to continue hashing this out, but John and I were just talking
that there may be a problem with um putting any deadlines on those kinds of things with SB180. commerce may consider that more restrictive. So, um you know, we can look into that for you and come back with that information. Um but, um
we were just discussing that ourselves. So, >> well, there might be a whole there might be a whole lot. Yeah, exactly. But, >> I mean, in many ways, there's several things in here they could say is more, you know, more burdensome. So, I think we got to always know that we're
tiptoeing around Senate Bill 180 every time, every decision we make, right? >> Yeah. But before we reached out to the state, we wanted to know, do do you guys even want us to pursue this? Cuz if the answer is no, there's would have been no reason to speak with the state. So, uh, you know, we'll address the the timing
issue and um if they say, you know, you like, you know, no deadlines that'll be too restrictive under 180, we'll we'll let you all know. if if we are able to then you know we can figure out is it 360 is it 180 or or you know what the right number is that you all are
comfortable with. >> Yeah. >> I I just is you and I are both wanting to get this done. I just don't want to rule >> um anybody out and if they can't even put in their applications, they're not going to even apply.
>> Yeah. >> You know. >> Yeah. Well, and and I guess my scenario of Joe Lunchbox coming is wrong because these have to be in multiples anyway. >> So he That's correct. Joe Joe Lunchbox would have to have two lunch boxes at least to build a duplex. >> Well, yeah, they only have to be in
multiples of two. So I Joe Lunchbox could do two. >> Yeah. Right. Okay. >> All right. >> I suppose. >> Well, I guess we still have time to we certainly have still time to discuss this, but >> so the direction is advance it forward anyway.
>> Yes. Yes, I'd like to advance it forward. I just, you know, um yes, I'd like to increase density if we can. Uh because that's about the only way financially we can do things. Uh maybe reducing parking or landscaping parking, I don't think.
Um uh because of the parking issues that we increased parking on um all all units being from one and a half to two not I don't remember how long ago quite a while ago now but it's needed
because everybody has a car these days uh waving any additional fees all that yes I think we need to advance as much of this as possible and I even I I really don't have much of objection to the the $2,000 per unit price of making
I don't have >> something. Yeah. Right. >> Um >> but I want to make sure that they are eligible to uh even think about us. Maybe they won't either way. Maybe they
won't. But if if the 180 days rules them out, they're not even going to apply. It's just And it's not that I don't want Joe Lunchbox to have his two. >> I hear you. Got it. >> Okay. >> I think Jennifer's got some direction
there and that that was helpful. >> Anything else for tonight? Do I have a motion to adjurnn? Thank you so much.