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[laughter] That was America and to the republic for it stands. One nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. All right, everybody.

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Uh, welcome to the July 20th, 2026 Jackson Township Planning Board meeting. This meeting has been appropriately noticed in all the proper forms and places according to the Open Public Meetings Act. And I will leave it off to Madam Chairwoman >> and we'll have a uh roll call please.

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>> Mr. Bzie >> here. >> Mr. Marzo >> here. >> Mr. Heler. Mr. Parks >> here. >> Mr. Rogers >> here. >> Mr. Tmer. >> Mr. Sullivan >> here. >> Dr. Camp >> here. And we'll have a motion for

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payment of voucher for recording secretary for July 20th. >> So moved. Second. Sullivan. >> Mr. Mr. Brezie, >> yes. >> Mr. Marzo, >> yes. >> Mr. Parks, >> yes. >> Mr. Rogers, >> yes. >> Mr. Sullivan, >> yes. >> Dr. Camp,

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>> yes. A motion for the minutes, approval of minutes for June 15th, please. >> So move. Sullivan. >> Second, Brie. >> Mr. Brazie? >> Yes. >> Mr. Parks? >> Yes. >> Mr. Rogers? >> Yes. >> Mr. Sullivan? >> Yes. >> Dr. Campbell?

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>> Yes. And we have a uh boatload of resolutions. Yes. >> Thank you, Mr. Sheay. >> Do you want to do the changes first to the schedule or do the resolutions first? >> Uh, the resolutions are what you put on my list first. >> Sure, I'll do those first. Okay.

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Resolution 2026-17 of the planning board of the Township of Jackson, County of Ocean, state of New Jersey, granting a one-year time extension for preliminary and final major site plan approval and minor subdivision approval for Colonas AOS,

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Inc. block 19501, lot 21. Eligible to vote are Mr. Brezrey, Mr. Parks, Mr. Rogers, Mr. Sullivan, and Dr. Campbell. Accept a motion, please. I'd >> like to make a motion to approve resolution 2026-17.

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Sullivan, >> second. >> Mr. Brezie, >> yes. >> Mr. Parks, >> yes. >> Mr. Rogers, >> yes. >> Mr. Sullivan, >> yes. >> Dr. King, >> yes. Resolution 2026-18 of the Planning Board of the Township of

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Jackson, County of Ocean, State of New Jersey, denying minor subdivision approval with with required variances for Yoseseph Minsburg, block 8901, lots four and five. Eligible to eligible to vote are Mr. Brezy, Mr. Parks, Mr.

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Rogers, Mr. Sullivan, and Dr. Campbell. I I just asked uh the attorney if he'd just make a little announcement about denial resolutions. >> Yep. So, uh this is a resolution of denial. So, you're voting a resolution in support of the denial. Uh just to

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just to be clear, just a it's a it's a vote in the affirmative and the affirmative is the denial of the application. >> Just so we're clear. >> Yeah. >> Thank you. Okay. Roll call, please. Oh, we have to do the Oh, >> the first we do the uh a motion, please.

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>> I'll make a motion to approve resolution 2026-18. Sullivan, >> second. >> Mr. Brezie, >> yes. >> Mr. Parks, >> yes. >> Mr. Rogers, >> yes. >> Mr. Sullivan, >> yes. >> And Dr. Campbell, >> yes.

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Resolution 2026-9 of the planning board of the township of Jackson, county of Ocean, state of New Jersey, denying preliminary and final major site plan approval with required variances and design waiverss for a school for Nefes Hashim Inc. block

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19703, lot 29. Mr. Eligible to vote are Mr. Brezie, Mr. Marzo, Mr. Parks, Mr. Rogers, Mr. Sullivan, and Dr. Camp. Roll call, please. Need a motion. >> Oh, motion, please.

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>> I'd like to make a motion to approve resolution 2026-9. Sullivan, >> second. >> Mr. Brazie, >> yes. >> Mr. Marzo, >> yes. >> Mr. Parks, >> yes. >> Mr. Rogers, >> yes. >> Mr. Sullivan, >> yes. >> Dr. Camp,

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>> yes. Resolution 2026-20 of the planning board of the township of Jackson, County of Ocean, state of New Jersey, granting conditional use approval and preliminary and final major site plan approval with design waiverss for day for a daycare use for Star

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Capital Partners 2 LLC block 6401 lots 19 and 20. All members are eligible to vote. >> Motion, please. like to make a motion to approve resolution 2026-20 Sullivan. >> Second.

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>> Mr. Brazy. >> Yes. >> Mr. Parks? >> Yes. >> Mr. Rogers? >> Yes. >> Mr. Sullivan? >> Yes. >> Dr. Campbell? >> Yes. Resolution 2026-21 of the Planning Board of the Township of Jackson, County of Ocean, State of New

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Jersey, granting preliminary and final major site plan approval with acquired variances and design waiverss for a house of worship for Dove of Zucker block 5804, lot 14. Eligible to vote are Mr. Brezie, Mr. Parks,

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Mr. Sullivan, and Dr. Campbell. >> Motion, please. like to make a motion to approve resolution 2026-21. Sullivan, >> second. >> Mr. Brazzy, >> yes. >> Mr. Parks, >> yes. >> Mr. Sullivan, >> yes. >> Dr. Campbell,

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>> yes. And the last resolution is resolution 2026-22 of the planning board of the township of Jackson, county of Ocean, state of New Jersey, granting preliminary and final major site plan approval and preliminary and final major subdivision approval

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with design waiverss for Belleview estates. Block 21501, lot 17.01, block 21503, lots well, sorry, lots 1 through 7. Block 21504 lot 1 and block 21601

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lots 2 through 1225 through 152 and 202 motion please >> like to make a motion to approve resolution 2026-22 Svin >> second >> Mr. Brezie >> yes

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>> Mr. Parks >> yes >> Mr. Rogers >> yes >> Mr. Sullivan >> yes >> Dr. Yes. Now, we have a a number of uh changes to the agenda schedule. Carrie block 21101, lots 29 and 30,

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Shaki LLC from July 6th, 2026 to October 5th, 2026 with renotice required. Um, a motion, please. like to make a motion to move application block 21101

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lots 29 and30 Shocki LLC to October >> 5th >> 5th 2026 >> second Demarzo. >> All in favor? I >> I >> I >> carry block 8901 lot 19 Yseph Hine Minsburg from tonight

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to October 19th 2026 with no further notice required. Motion please. >> I'd like to make a motion to move resol to move application block 8901 lot 19 Yseph Hyman Minsburg to October 19th

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2026 without further notification. Second to Marzo. >> All in favor? >> I >> carry block 19403 lot 4 GM Gro Town LLC from October 19th

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2026 to December 7th 2026 with notice required. Motion please. >> Like to make a motion to move application block 19403 lot 4 GM Grotown LLC to December 7, 2026.

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Second Demarzo. >> All in favor? >> I >> I >> Okay. Um, engineering matters. >> Planning matters. >> Attorney matters. >> Not at this time, >> but thank you very much for getting all

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those resolutions together. It always makes me feel good to be up to date. >> We We're almost there. We're almost there. >> Pretty close. Pretty close. Um, okay. Let's see. Any board matters for discussion? Good.

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Thank you. All right. Here we go. Block 21101. You're on. Good evening, Madam Chair, members of the board. Salvator Alfury on behalf of the applicant.

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Uh [snorts] this [clears throat] is an application for a 6,250 square foot uh contractor's building, 2500 square ft of office. The balance uh for the warehouse contractor use with site improvements. We've received the

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report from your engineer dated July 15th, their planner dated July 13th, the police March 16th, and we received today the LTE report from [clears throat] Sherry dated July 20th. Uh we've u we're prepared to address all the technical

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comments which we'll do during the course of testimony. We have one witness to present and that is Mr. Murphy who's seated to your right. And Mr. Sh congratulations first of all on getting those resolutions done and secondly would you swear in our witness please >> adding to absolutely

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do you swear from tell the truth the whole truth nothing but the truth >> I do >> all right please state your name spell your last in the record >> Brian Murphy Murphy 18569 Tom River professional engineer and planner in state New Jersey have been >> you've been here a couple times the board accepted credentials

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>> thank you >> and uh you're here as an engineer and a planner >> yes >> thank Thank you very much. We accept your >> Thank you. Thank you. >> And Mr. Murphy, I know we submitted exhibits that Anthony I I assume will bring up. And you also handed out hard copies, correct? >> I did. Yes.

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>> Okay. So, you should identify each one as we go. And I assume we're going to start with the aerial to describe for the board where this property is located. >> Exhibit one. Uh this is a Google Google Earth aerial shot of the property. Property is indicated in red in the middle of the plan. Uh it's off of

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Herman Road. Uh Herman Road is a gravel road. Um to the north we have 195 running east to west. Uh we have a vacant piece uh just to our north as well. We have vacant to the east, vacant to the south, and what's essentially a

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junkyard uh to our west. Um and you can see there's a couple warehouses under construction. uh a couple lots to our west as well and some other commercial uh contractor warehouse type uh buildings uh further down on Herman

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Road. Could just go to the site plan, please. As you can see, the the property is currently vacant. >> Thank you. >> So A2 would be a colored um site plan color.

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>> Correct. That's a color rendering of sheet five of the uh plans that were submitted to the board. Uh exact exact same plan just colorized. Uh as you can see the bulk of the property isn't being developed. Uh there's a lot of wetlands on the on the back especially on the back half of the property. Uh there is

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an isolated wetlands on the front of the property that we'll be filling. Uh we have a valid valid LOI. Uh we're in for the general permit to uh fill that wetland in the front. Um, and obviously we'll we'll have to provide that as part of compliance. Uh, once we get that permit, uh, we have a single uh, access

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off of Herman Road uh, on our to our north or southwest corner of the property. Uh, again, this is a 5,000 square footprint building 100 by 50. Uh, 2500 square feet will be office. 3750 will be warehouse. Uh, no material or or

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storage will be outside. uh nor hazardous material be stored in the garage. Uh we have a private well and septic proposed for the site. Uh the septic is that light green square in the southeast corner. Uh that's where the

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septic would go. Um any signage that we have would reply. As for storm water, it'll be privately owned. It's the pavement is going to be forest pavement and obviously owned and maintained uh by by the owner of the property. and we'll have to file a uh deed restricted

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operation and maintenance manual as uh part of this application. Uh there is a trash enclosure uh on the west side of the property. Uh it's 10 by 20 and again that'll be uh by a private hauler. Um the landscape will be irrigated. Uh

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lighting complies and if the board engineer feels after construction that shields are needed, obviously we'll we'll gladly provide any shields that are needed. Uh but I don't think we're going to be impacting anybody. Um with regard to parking, 16 parking stalls are required. We have 20. Uh those are all

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on the front of the property. Uh two ADA stalls are provided. We have no EV uh provided. None are required for less than 25 parking stalls. Uh a soils pit permit will be needed. Uh we're going to be filling some of the site. Uh so we're

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roughly 850 cubic yards. Uh with regard to the business is a contractor warehouse. Um we [clears throat] know the contractor is going to be Marlin Construction who's the applicant. Um their hours are 7 to 5 Monday through Friday. Typically they don't have any weekends. Uh they'll have 10 employees

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on site, three in the shop and six in the offices. Um their equipment, they have 10 total vehicles, uh six dump trucks, three pickups, and three equipment uh vehicles. Um so the the pickups go home with the workers. Uh the

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field workers go directly to the site. They don't come here. Uh it's only the office personnel and the uh the people who work in the shop that come there. Uh with regard to >> Brian, just to clarify about the there will be dump trucks and the equipment

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vehicles on site overnight. They don't they don't go home with the employees. No, they they would come back and park here overnight and go out go out to the site the next morning or they'll sometimes stay on site as well. Uh but certainly they'd come back sometimes. >> Um with regard to deliveries, uh

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basically all the deliveries go out to the site. Any material things like that go directly to the sites. Uh we'll have typical UPS drop offs for office and and uh and uh parts uh and supplies. Uh that would basically just come in and and all that would be stored in the building.

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nothing stored outside. Um, if you could bring up the architecturals real quick, please. Thank you. Uh, so this is a 5,000 square footprint building. Uh, twotory. Uh, there's a mezzanine level on it. And as you can see, it's a it's basically a

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typical Butler building. Uh, steel exterior where you have a stone uh, veneer water table on the bottom of bottom of it to kind of match and kind of break up so it's not just one big steel building. Uh it's similar to uh many of the buildings that are on Herman

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Road. Uh they're that Butler type building with the steel skin. Uh we feel it's attractive looking building. Uh and obviously we have a number of garage doors um for the equipment to be able to come in and be maintained and uh and stored uh in the building. Uh we have no

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variances proposed uh with regard to waivers. We do have some waivers uh curbing around the parking lot. Uh again, this is porest pavement, so we're just looking to basically have have the drainage run over the park parking lot, not be concentrated along curbing. Uh

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road improvements to Herman Road. Uh 15 foot half width uh of pavement and 25 rightway is required. Uh 50 foot rightway exists, so we have that. Um but the roadway is a gravel roadway and it's 24 foot wide, so we're seeking that

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waiver. um tree and shrubs in the safety island. That's the island when you first come into the site. Uh that's actually where the well is going to go. So we can have a tree or we can put some shrubs around it, but we can't really have a tree planted where we're going to put the well. Um uh foundation plantings,

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basically we just have a a walkway around the building. So we wouldn't have any foundation plantings. um course pavement uh with township ordinance uh doesn't really recognize course pavement as minimum requirements for pavement and it's standard pavement so technically it

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would be wavered to to have porest pavement uh and walls in a front yard uh should be 30 in or less. Most of ours are 30 in but in one location it is up to 36 in. So we'd look for a waiver to allow 36 in

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just in that uh front corner. Um the survey is older than 12 months at this point, but again it's an undeveloped site. Uh there's been no changes to the site uh conditions. Uh looking at the review letters, uh the own uh little letter of 71526

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other than what we've already discussed, I've already I fully agree to address any of the remainder items uh in in the letter. Uh the RV letter dated 71326. Again, I agree with most comments in the letter, but there were some items that they wanted us to discuss. Um, page

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four, um, there is building coverage and max impervious coverage and we have to take out the wetland area out of the site. Uh, so that brings the total upland of 2.46 acres. Uh, so that with that using that uh, the building

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coverage 40% is permitted and we're at 5%. uh max impervious coverage 75% is permitted and we're at 69% so we're still complying on both um page five item Roman numeral 5 A1 uh we do have a

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valid uh LOI and we're in for a GP6 and obviously we'll provide that as part of resolution compliance page six item B2 >> I could stop Brian on the next ones about the solar on the roof we'll make we we >> we'll make sure it's solar ready and If

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it's if it's doable financially at the time, we'll we'll do it. >> Uh I'm a little concerned about the EV >> you have employees. They're going to have some of them might have electric vehicles. I would think it would be

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prudent and good uh management to have them an EV available for your employees. >> Yeah. Yeah, I mean to >> we could make one EV ready and then if we need it, we can install it just to

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install it unnecessarily if >> true but at at least make it EV ready. >> Fair enough. >> Um the last one in the RV letter is page seven item 10 that's regarding the EVs takes care of that. Um uh the fire

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letter dated 111325. Item number one, we will provide a NOX box. Number two, we will provide a fire lane around the building and into the site uh with the required signage. Uh number three is regarding mulch up against the building where we won't have

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any mulch up against the building. Um number four is regarding the EV chargers, which we'll address. And number five, um we'll add the signage to the building on the trust type um so that they know what kind of building they're fighting in. uh police uh 31626

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they they had no concerns. Uh the Arthon letter of 62026 uh we agree to all of it except for item number eight uh which talked about keeping trees along the frontage. Again we have some substantial grade change uh

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in this area and we're going to have to fill that that portion of the wetland isolated wetland and the septic has to go up up in that area as well. So, it's not really feasible to keep keep the trees that are there right now. >> So, Brian, just correct the record, the the [clears throat]

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uh the Arthon letter is July 20th. I think you said June 20th, maybe. Okay. >> But other than that, other than number eight, we could address all the comments. >> And then number two, I just don't know if we put on the record the colored site plan was A2 and then the architecturals would be A3 just because we didn't

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specifically identify them. Otherwise, I think um what about a freestanding sign, Brian? We're going to comply with the >> Yeah. Yeah, we'll comply with the ordinance. We'll have something up. >> Okay. >> Just just to identify for identity. >> It's important for the fire department and the police department so that they know where they're going.

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>> Fair enough. Yeah. Absolutely. >> Thank you. >> Otherwise, I think Brian did a very good job addressing the comments. We're prepared to answer any questions the board or the board professionals have. >> Mr. Clay. Thank you, Madam Chair. Um just a couple

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and let's um start with with the site and the poorest pavement and I think um you had indicated that you will be providing pavement striping typical of any um um commercial development uh yellow lines that signify the um fire lanes, no parking fires or that's

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correct. And the whole and the whole thing um >> the area outside of what would be designated as a fire lane, I'm assuming. And then I'm talking towards the rear of the site. That's where the truck is truck storage is going to be. >> Correct. >> Um >> Anthony, could you bring A2 up please?

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Just so we have it. Sorry. >> Okay. Thanks. >> So where all where the basically the coming >> That's correct. Right. And and we need that area for the turning radius. when they bring in a trailer in into the

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shop, they need to be able to pull the trailer in and be able to back in. So that that does take a pretty good swing. >> And you'll identify no parking. >> Yes. >> And and because if you've got all kinds of trucks back there, you want to make sure it's clear enough for fire trucks. >> Yeah. We we'll we'll have that fully

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strike for a fire lane. Is >> Is there a a maximum number of trucks that could we can anticipate being there? Because to me, it just looks like it's nothing's really designated. It's more or less like a pretty much free-for-all. We'll park and we'll go wherever we want. >> Yeah. I mean, we can drop in, you know,

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basic 12 foot wide truck aisles, you know, for designated parking, so to speak. >> Okay. I think that would help. >> That's fine. >> Um the um pavement in the in the front um why have the customers, patrons, you

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know, why why isn't the parking closure to the building? Well, we have we have no customers or patients uh that come to the site. It's it's only uh the the uh staff that come to the site. >> It's the wide why that far away. I think

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you could re you know you could widen the um the green area in the front significantly and still have a 24 foot 30 foot aisle between um the between Herman Road and the building and just move the parking. Well, we'd wind up losing uh a lot of the parking stalls

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because if you push them up up against the building, then you're losing those ones that would extend beyond the building. That's why we have them in the front. >> But if you're saying to just shift it up in this without going adjacent to the building. >> Yeah. Um normally you would require a 24

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foot drive a between the building and parking. When this is you'll have 64. >> Oh, to tighten it up. I'll I'll run the radius of his trailer and the fire truck, of course, and and if we can tighten it up, we will >> Okay.

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>> Well, you'll agree with >> We'll work with the engineer. >> We'll work with the engineer. Thank you. >> Um and the only other major thing is the improvements to Herman Road. Um a lot of board members might have been here, may not have been here, but there's been some definitely some improvements that

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were were or projects that were approved, not yet built. So, I'm just concerned about your waiver for the gravel where it needs to be pavement versus curbs, sidewalks, pavement winding for something that might be, I don't know, two or three lots away. So,

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I'm just trying to, you know, tie up um first off, I have a hard time supporting a waiver. We're just going to leave the gravel road where it is because, you know, as you get, you know, um further into the county road, you start to pick up pavement. You start to pick up curbs and sidewalks. So, and I know that the

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improvements that were um done between um or further up the road um did require curbs and sidewalks or at least those road improvements, the value of the curbs and sidewalks and the pavement widening. I wouldn't suggest sidewalks in this area because we know there's no really pedestrian traffic, but I think

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there should be some discussion or some agreement as to what are we going to get in front of this lot knowing that there's other lots um on either side. The ones to the west might have also been improved with curbs and sidewalks and there might have been bonds posted.

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So, I just needed some discussion on that. >> Right. I guess we could we could do the pavement. I wouldn't want to do it until others do it only because if we put it in and then you don't have pavement beyond and before it's it's going to get destroyed >> and you're putting in 20 foot somebody might have approved 24 foot or 30 foot

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or you might could go the other way. >> We enter into a developers agreement and bond for that. If future improvements are made to the road so we could join in as long as the bonding is is structured such that um that if you don't do it the town can do it. Exactly. the town would

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be the beneficiary of the bond. I'm just offering a suggestion in lie of actually doing [clears throat] the work right now. >> There might have been at one point a perman road improvement fund. I'm not sure about that, but we talking 90s or so something like that. But just as long as the applicant recognizes that he has

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an obligation to do something for Herman Road. >> That's all. I I believe we did approve one building that has been built all the way down at the very end and there I believe is curbing there

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>> there today unless they've changed it between now and tonight but I'm pretty sure so I think that's a very good suggestion that bonding >> okay >> for for curb and pavement >> but chairman raises a good point if something further to the west had you

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know curbs and pavement wise Why shouldn't this >> I mean again we we can do that. I'm just worried about if if it's >> the nowhere >> if there's Yeah. And and if there's it's the it's the ends where it goes back to gravel again that'll get destroyed.

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>> Well remember though there are two buildable lots I believe next door on both sides. So when they come before us if we're all still here we'll remember that. >> Yeah. and we'll we'll say well now there'll be curb and sidewalk.

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>> Yeah, that's why we're thinking [clears throat] do the do the agreement and that's fine. That's all. >> Right. So So make it conditional upon the curb and sidewalk uh bonding. >> Well, I guess just road improvement bonding, right? You may not want

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sidewalks if no one else >> and they and the township may eventually want that paved, >> right? >> And we'd look to the people who are benefiting from not Jackson taxpayers. >> Understood. Fair enough. >> I think the applicant and and u we can

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work, you know, together and the value of the curbs, the sidewalks, the pavement widening, the street trees, whatever else is there. We can come up with a number on that and basically, you know, apply that or use that as the bond. >> Great. Mr. Peters. >> Thank you, Madam Chair. Um, everyone was

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referring to an application that this board um heard and decided. Um, for the record, it was an application of 498 Herman Jackson LLC, block 2301, lot 10.

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Um, it was resolution number 202218 from this planning board. Um the requirement for pavement for that applicant was because they were going to be installing water and sewer in the

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street. In this particular case, and I'm not defending anyone's position, in this particular case, water and sewer isn't being extended around the bend to get to these folks yet. So to the extent that it's apparent that there's four other

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sites out there that have been there operating without the taxpayers of Jackson having to go out and fix the road, um there's something out there that works. So perhaps in in addition to at least calculating the value of the

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improvements with Mr. Cle, perhaps we could ask the applicant to contact the township engineer because to the best of my knowledge, there isn't as Mr. CLE have made reference to the best of my knowledge in 2026 there's no Herman Road

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improvement fund in town. There may have been some discussion 30 years ago when we had the industrial commission and and things being self-funding so to speak so that as you said Madam Chair the taxpayers of the town don't have to pay for the maintenance of the road because

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at some point just like a resident the owner of one of these properties can come to town and say I pay taxes on it maintain the road. Um, so I just wanted to make sure that the record was clear that the the reason for

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the pavement extension out to West Commodore on Herman for the application we heard three or four years ago was because they were going to be tearing the road up. In this particular case, the applicant's building on-site well and septic. So

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he's not proposing to do improvements or open cut the road which would then sort of put him at put him in a responsible position for repairing the road. So Ernie that Charlie Kliff I would contact is that

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correct is Charlie or whoever. So we would agree that in as an alternative [clears throat] if there is a fund we would make that contribution in li of bonding it because then it'll be used for whenever they're ready. But we'll look into it and find out. Is that okay?

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>> Ward, what do you think? >> I think it seems uh reasonable. >> Primary road has been a headache for about 30 years being half dirt, half warehouse. It's never been put together right. Um I think if we can bond to

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protect it somehow, I can understand the applicant not wanting to do it when you're going to have dirt on one side, dirt on the other. And then the possibility of the septic lines running out there at some point, too. So, uh I I think bonding for it protects us all the way around, I think, is a good idea.

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>> Agreed. >> All right. We all agree. So, we uh we will rely on you gentlemen getting together with our professionals and perhaps the township engineer and uh our goal is to protect the taxpayers.

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>> But Mr. Peters, I'm gonna ask Mr. Uh, Mr. Murphy put his planning hat on. We go to page three of our report under zoning. I'd ask him just to give us some

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confirming testimony under zoning A2 and three that in fact the applicant is going to comply with these sections of the code. >> Correct. There'll be no goods for sale or retail at the site and we're not storing any material on the site or

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anything like that. >> No, you missed the the word after materials >> and equipment. >> Okay. So, we're just the trucks, the vehicles, >> right? But this isn't going to turn into a contractor's storage yard with curb forms and piles of mulch or piles of dirt or piles of pipe.

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>> Marlin does a nice job, but that's that's what this zone is. And I need there to be affirmative testimony on the record they're going to comply with this. Otherwise, you're at the wrong board. >> We have made it clear to the to the applicant that that is what's required on the site and you know, mulch and

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dirt, everything being piled isn't conducive to paper. So, that could be in violation of his own >> and there'll be uh no um vehicle repairs >> only in the building. >> Yeah. And the drainage on those vehicle repairs, I know you're always asking

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that, so why don't you go? >> Yeah. If anything, you typically there's a uh oil operator or something like that that means we'd have to comply with >> if you're going to have a drain in the warehouse and doing repairs in there on vehicles are you going to have an outside service come in to get all the

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waste from it >> that's correct >> you put that as a stipulation >> yes >> sure >> that's all I have madam chair thank you >> we're getting very good at this uh any concerns from the board >> I do have a question on the poorest

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pavement. >> Sure. >> Um what are the plans for maintaining that? >> Basically a an operation and maintenance manual have to be filed with with that goes on a deed. So if they sell the property or changes hands, they're aware

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of it because it's in the deed and in the BMP it specifies exactly what the what the maintenance is on forest pavement. Basically, you have to go out and actually vacuum it occasionally um to basically bring up the the fines out of out of out of the uh >> Yeah, we we would have Brian would

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prepare an operation maintenance manual. It'll be submitted to Doug. He would have to approve it. Once it's approved, then we actually record that document with a a deed restriction on in the county clerk's office. >> And there's no other like heavier type

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of paving material you could use other than porous pavement. Sounds like you have you're going to have several dump trucks. Are they like are they triacal? >> Some of them. Yeah. If you drive up the parkway, you'll notice there's sections of the parkway that are actually forest pavement. You'll notice that all of a

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sudden the rain isn't getting kicked up as much as it does normally. Uh, I wish the whole part was made, but the uh it's it's made for the heavier >> because I know that it seems like it's it's a little bit of a thinner material, which is why I was

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>> Yeah, it still has to have the strength. >> Thanks. >> Anyone else? >> That concludes our presentation. I >> I just want to go over the the standard. So, the only thing that's being requested from this board at this point is just that one uh waiver and that's

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it. >> Well, there's multiple >> there a couple. >> I'll give you on one of the reports that we can refer to so it's easier. >> I don't know if you if Ernie or Doug >> there's no no variances are being present though. I just want to confirm

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that it's only Yeah. is free. >> And the only waiver that's on that list, Bobby, that you got you were handed was the um road Herman Road improvements. We're now going to bond for it, >> which is number two.

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>> Yeah, we got the EV >> and the EV. >> Although you didn't need a waiver for that because it's under 20, >> right? There's no relief requirement. provide one make ready >> but it's a stipulation. >> Yes. >> Okay. No, I'm just

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>> All right. Are we ready for the public? Go ahead. >> I'd like to make a motion to open uh open for cross-examination on this application and this application only. Sullivan. Second Demarzo. >> All in favor? >> I.

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>> If anyone would like to ask any questions of Mr. Murphy or uh Mr. Alfairi, you your time is now. >> Happy day. >> Seeing no one come forward, I move to close the public cross-examination on

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this application. Sullivan. >> Second. Demarzo. >> All in favor? >> I. >> I. >> All right. Next. I'd like to make a motion to open to the public for comments on this application and this application only. Sullivan >> second demarzo.

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>> All in favor? >> I. >> Anyone has anything to say tonight about this application? Please feel free to come forward. >> Seeing no one come forward. I move to close the public uh comment section of this application. Sullivan

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>> second. Demarzo. >> All in favor? I >> I >> summation. >> Yeah. Very briefly, we we'd request that the board grant the approval with all the conditions that we've stipulated to on the record, including compliance with the professional reports. And thank you

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for your time. And Mr. Murphy, you did a very thorough job. Thank you. >> We'll accept a motion. I'd >> like to make a motion. >> Let me just put the stand. >> Yep. Let me just put the standard on the record. So, uh again, uh this is there's no variance relief, uh just waver

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relief. Uh the standard before the board um is waivers just as a matter of law uh pursuant to the legal standards got to be reasonable reasonable in light of the language of the ordinance or if certain provisions are impractical in nature or will exact undue hardship because of of

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the peculiar conditions on the property. So that is the legal standard that uh you guys want to deliberate upon based upon I believe these these five waiverss that are being requested. Go for it. >> You know, there's no discussion on the

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waves. I think they fit that category and there's no variances once again, which is a rarity around here. But, uh, Herman Road's been put together kind of shot for all these years, but this fits the character of it. The bonding for the road, I think, addresses a problem we've

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been trying to address for years. Uh, I'll make a motion to approve. >> Looking for a second. >> I'll second that, Sullivan. We'll have a roll call vote, please. >> Mr. Brezie, >> yes. >> Mr. Marzo, >> yes. >> Mr. Parks, >> yes. >> Mr. Rogers,

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>> yes. >> Mr. Sullivan, >> yes. >> Dr. Camp, >> yes. Congratulations. >> Thank you. Thank you very much. Have a good night. >> I'll accept a motion. >> Like to make a motion to close the planning board meeting. Svin >> second to Marzo.

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>> All in favor? I >> have a nice evening everyone. Safe home everybody.