To the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for stands. One nation under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. Good evening and welcome to the May 27th, 2025 regular meeting of the
Jackson Township Council. Pursuant to the provisions in the New Jersey Open Public Meeting Act, adequate notice of this meeting was properly provided by transmitting the notice of the meeting on January 28, 2025 for publication. Notice of this meeting in the township council has been posted in the corridor of the municipal building
and in the office of the municipal clerk. Council member Elli here. Council Paul Mary. Council Vice President Bernstein here. Council President Cume here. Also attending
is township clerk Martin, myself, uh, deputy clerk Jen Carelli, and township attorney Mr. McGucken. Council President Q. Thank you. Good evening, everyone. At this time, I would like to ask everyone to please join me in a moment of silence in
honor of Councilman Scott Sergeant, whose service and dedication to our community will never be forgotten. Let us take this moment to reflect on his contribution to in impact he made on all of us. Thank you. Tonight is both an honor and a
privilege to stand before you as we recognize and welcome six new hires to the Jackson Police Department. To the newest members of our police force, congratulations and thank you. Your decision to serve and protect our community is both courageous and deeply appreciated. I want to take a moment to
sincerely thank our public safety director, Director Candido, for his continued leadership and dedication. His tireless efforts to backfill positions and recruit more outstanding men and women to our department have been instrumental in strengthening the
Jackson Police Department. Thanks to his proactivity approach, we are not only filling vacancies, but we are also building a more resilient and responsive police force to keep our town safe. These new additions mark not just growth, but progress. Progress in the
building of a department that reflects the strength, integrity, and values of our town. We are grateful to have these new officers on board and confident that they will uphold the high standards and tradition of excellence that define the Jackson Police Department. While we celebrate these new beginnings, we also
pause to honor a tremendous loss in our community. We take a moment to remember someone who was near and dear to all of us. Councilman Scott Sergeant, a proud Navy veteran and a pillar of strength on this very council. Scott was more than a colleague. He was a true public servant
leader. His voice was steady, his heart was strong, and his love for Jackson ran deep. It was an honor to serve be besides him. And I know I speak for many when I say his leadership, wisdom, and unwavering commitment to our town will never be forgotten. His legacy will live
on in one decision we make to better this community. So tonight, as we welcome the newest members of our police department, we also remember a man who gave so much of himself to Jackson, let us move forward to the same sense of duty and dedication that Councilman
Sergeant uh did every day. Thank you, and may we continue to serve Jackson with pride, purpose, and unity. Thank you, Council President Cune. At this time, uh, does any member of the council have anything they would like to share in regards to Councilman Sergeant?
Yes, madam clerk. Thank you. Um, I've had opportunity I had the opportunity to know Councilman Sergeant Scott, as we used to call him, for about nine years. Um, I met Scott taking a walk one day driving up when he was driving down Brookwood Parkway. Um, he stopped. He saw that I needed help and um he offered
his hand to me. Um he became a a cherished close friend. When I got the call on Friday at 5:45 um we were about to go early we early chabas um to power down usually around 6:15. I sat in my car for over an hour crying. Um Scott was a dear friend to
every Jackson resident. He cared passionately. It didn't make a difference if you wore a yamaka, if you were black, if you were white, if you're Hispanic. He cared. Scott was someone who when he was on the board of ed used to reach out and ask what could I do to bridge the differences? What could I do
to help everyone? I still remember when the decision was made on this day as to appoint um myself on the council, how Scott called me after and said, "Morty, I want to tell you this was the proudest moment of my life. I bridged the gap. I made that vote and I'm proud of it. Make
me proud." My last conversation with Scott. Um I think he went into surgery on Wednesday if I remember correctly. Um I called him the night before, the day before to check in on him. Um and I'm going to say something which some people may not like, but I'm going to say it
anyways. Um Scott turned said to me on the phone, he said, "Morty, what are your future political plans?" So I said, "Scott, I'm happy with where I am." He said, "No, you're not." So I said, "Yes, Scott, I am." He said, 'Are you running for assembly or for Senate?' I said,
'Scott, I'm okay with where I am. He said, 'My, you're going to be running for higher office and I want and I'm going to be there to help you. So, I chuckled, but that was really Scott. Scott was always someone who kept on looking for more, pushing people to do more. Um, I had the opportunity. I used
to speak to Scott somewhere between 6:45 and 7:45 almost every single morning when he was up to it. Um and then I speak to council president also and to the mayor and some of my other colleagues here. Um Scott used to call me almost daily for a period of time
checking in asking what do the constituents need before I was on the deis. Um I still remember Scott was one of the initial votes on on something that we're going to be voting on tonight hopefully. Um, I still remember Scott picking up the phone and calling me and that was the process had begun before I
was on the deis and asking me some questions and I remember saying to him, I said, "Scott, you're voting for something that he said, Morty, stop right now." He said, "I'm going to do what's right for Jackson." That really was the legacy of of Scott Sergeant. Scott looked at looked at himself as someone who was there for every resident
no matter what, no matter who. And he would have tough conversations. There were times when he picked up the phone and yelled at me at the way he felt that my demeanor was in the days or what he felt I said something I shouldn't have said or whether it was after a Republican club meeting or coming over to my house on a perm and and feeling
like I was a little too immature. Um that was Scott. Scott was like an older older wiser brother or uncle or grandfather sometimes or sometimes a father. We're going to miss Scott. I know my wife is going to miss him. My children are going to miss him. And um we should all take a moment think about
what he did for Jackson. and what he did for the individuals in Jackson. I think he had over a decade of service to this town in many various different capacities. He obviously served our country. He was a true hero and we're going to miss Scott. God bless us
all. If I could just remember Scott Sergeant for just a moment, Councilman Sergeant, I had the opportunity to serve with him on the Jackson Board of Education before serving on council with him. And one thing I know about Councilman Sergeant was that he always he thought and felt was right for
Jackson. He always tried to put Jackson first. He was a true patriot and he will be very much so missed. He would he would sit right to the right of me. We would often times share uh just information about the meeting or just
life and he was he was a great guy. So my thoughts, prayers and condolences to the Sergeant family. He will be missed. Miss Martin, um like to say a few words about uh Councilman Sergeant, who I've served with for the last couple of years, and it was an honor and pleasure
to serve with him. He was uh um always a gentleman, but he was never afraid to tell you what he thought of you or anything else for that matter. Um Scott's approach was very refreshing, especially in an era where so many political people resort to pandering and
saying what you want to hear. Um my thoughts and prayers and uh condolences and that of my wife are with Councilman Sergeant uh wife's uh Claudia and uh her family at this time. He really was the true epitome of what a public uh servant
uh should be. Dedicating his life to serving our town and country in the United States Navy, working selflessly to uh make our community a better place um for all even when his fail uh his health was uh failing him. He served the people right until the end. And I can't
think of a better way to live a life. and um now he's at peace and um you know God be with him and he will be very much missed up here on Adis. Thank you. Thank you madam clerk.
Council president Keen is there anything further? No ma'am. The next item for tonight's meeting is an update from the department of public works Mr. Sha Bolinsky. Council President Q. Thank you Madam Clerk. Installation and construction on our new Johnson Park uh
playground has begun. Work should be completed within the next few weeks, just in time for summer. Um brush collection is in zone 5 starts today. You can go to the township website. Um go to the Department of Public Works, then click on the link that states find my zone. If you don't know where your
zone is or what zone you're in, um it's the same for recycling, uh brush, and bulk. So, just so you know, I didn't know what zone I was in. There's a lot of zones. So, um that's a good little tool. A reminder all residents who uh reside in Four Seasons at South NLES
bulk collection is tomorrow. Um we are happy to announce that we'll be hosting a summertime clean community event. The cleanup event will be on Sunday, June 29th, and is open to 30 local nonprofit organizations. Applications will be sent
out on Friday, May 30th. All groups on the list will receive their application um this week. Thank you, Madam Clerk. The next item on the agenda is the police department oath of offices. Council President Q.
Yes. So, we would like to have a um the oath of office for Sergeant Alex uh Crrenanian. I'm going to say it right. I tried. I apologize. Um to rank of Lieutenant, if you could please come up. Thank you, Director Candido. I tried.
Huh? I tried. Listen, I did cheat notes and everything. Oh, I'm sorry. Mayor Candido, you got two more days. Enjoy it. I know. Good evening, folks. My name is Joe Candido. I'm the public safety director.
To my left is Chief Coons. Uh we'll be doing the oath of office for Sergeant now Lieutenant Corinian. If you could come forward, please. All right, we're backwards. Okay. Sergeant Alexander Corinian, as we affectionately call him, Slater on the
street, was born in Brooklyn, New York. Alex moved to Jackson at a young age and was raised here his entire life, graduating from Jackson Memorial High School in 1999. From there, Sergeant Corinian attended Ocean County College in 2001, where he graduated with associates
degree in criminal justice. Alex began his law enforcement career in 2000 as an auxiliary police officer with the Jackson Township Police Department and was hired as a full-time officer in 2003. Alex has a bachelor's degree in individual studies, individualized
studies, and a master's degree in administrative science from Fairley Dickinson University. He has been a member of the department special response team and Ocean County SWAT regional team and is currently a team leader on the Jackson special response team since 2005.
Alex is also part of the sniper pool for Ocean County as well as Jackson Township Special Response Team. In 2011, Alex became a firearms instructor for Jackson and Ocean County Police Academy. In 2012, Alex responded to Long Beach Island and Barnagate Lighthouse in
response and support of Sandy Relief efforts. In 2019, Alex received the award of officer of the year. In 2020, he was transferred to special division services and then in 21 was promoted to sergeant and remained in the division.
Alex is supported by his wife Shaina and son Landon. He enjoys traveling and being at the beach. He also enjoys watching his son sail. Alex would like to give credit and thanks to the retired legends of Jackson PD for guiding and shaping his career. He would also like to acknowledge the
current officers that will continue to keep the forward momentum going. Alex pledges to always stay grounded. I like this one. Avoid the lollipop of mediocrity and keep hashtagging. Congratulations, Shane.
There you go. Thank you. There we got them all right there. Thank you. Please repeat after me. I state your name for the record. I, Sergeant Alex Hernian, do solemnly swear do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States that I
will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey. And that I will bear true faith and allegiance and I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same to the same. and to the governments established in the United States and and to the governments established in the United
States and and in this state and in this state under the authority of the people under the authority of the people and that I will faithfully and I will faithfully impartially impartially and justly and justly perform the duties as lieutenant perform the duties as lieutenant for the Jackson Township
Police Department for the Jackson Township Police Department according to the best of my ability. to the best of my ability. Congratulations. Thank you. And he brings it back. And he brings it back. We're going to do the uh introductions
of our new officers now. Uh will Tristan Teranova please come up? right there. Tristan Teranova grew up in Jackson Township, New Jersey, and is a proud graduate of Jackson Liberty High
School, class of 2018. I'm feeling old. As a gradu as a student athlete, he competed on both the varsity wrestling and golf teams, demonstrating discipline and dedication early on. Following his high school, Tristan attended East Carolina University, earning over 60
college credits towards a bachelor's degree. In September 2018, he enlisted in the United States Army National Guard and graduated advanced individual training as an honor graduate. Through his military service, Tristan has exemplified leadership and commitment.
He served as a squad leader during two state active duty missions in response to hurricane and tropical storm relief efforts. His service has been recognized with multiple commendations, including two Army Reserve components achievement medals for honest and faithful service in the Army Achievement Medal for
outstanding leadership during annual training in June of 2023. Additionally, he has received four challenge coins in recognition of his excellence, valor, and dedication to duty. Outside of his military and professional commitments, Tristan enjoys spending quality time with the family
and friends. He is passionate about golf, enjoys snowboarding in the winter, and is a and is a proud Philadelphia Eagles fan. Oh boy. Tristan is especially grateful for the unwavering support of his loved
ones, including his mother, Lisa Teranova, and his girlfriend, Jillian Hinrich. He is honored to continue serving the community in his new role as a police officer. Next up is Joseph D. Roza. Joseph D. Roza was born in 2001 in New Brunswick, New Jersey. In 2002, his
family moved to Jackson where he where they have resided for 23 years. He graduated Jackson Memorial High School in 2019. While attending Jackson Memorial, Joe was a member and captain of the men's lacrosse team. Because of his lacrosse play, Joe received a scholarship to Dominican University,
where he earned his bachelor's degree in health science. Joe will soon be a member of the 109th Wamoth County Police Academy starting this July with a graduation date in December. Joe is a man who leans on his faith, family, and friends. He wants to personally thank his mom, Dawn, his dad,
Joe, and his brother Matt for being the foundation of his life. They make his life complete, and he is a proud son and brother. Joe's blessed to be in this situation and is appreciative of everyone who has helped him along this journey. He wants to thank everyone in the Jackson Jackson Township Department
for their service and for giving him his special opportunity. Joe looks forward to serving his community, establishing lifelong friendships, and making a positive impact on this world. Jake Green Jake is a lifelong resident of Jackson, New Jersey with a deep rooted commitment
to serving his community. A 2018 graduate of Jackson Liberty High School, Jake was a dedic dedicated four-year student athlete who played baseball, learning early on the values of teamwork, discipline, and perseverance. Following graduation, Jake began his
professional career with the Jackson Township Municipal Utilities Authority, starting in meter reading and working his way into the maintenance department. There he took pride in contributing to the upkeep and operation of Vital Township services, an experience that further instilled in him the importance
of public service. Jake is deeply grateful for the unwavering support he has received from his loved ones throughout his journey, especially his parents, whose guidance helped shape him into the man he is today, and his girlfriend Livia, whose ambition motivates him. He he extends special
thanks to SRO Colin Manafra, who's standing in the back there, whose inspiration guided him toward a career in law enforcement. As he begins his career in law enforcement, Jake begins a strong work ethic, a sense of responsibility, and gratitude for the opportunity to serve. He is proud to
join the Jackson Township Police Department and is committed to protecting the community he calls home. Steven Beta Steven was born in Long Branch, New Jersey. He grew up with a strong passion for sports and education which carried
him through his years at Jackson Memorial High School where he graduated in 2022. During his time at Jackson Memorial High School, Steven dedicated himself to athletics and proudly earned 12 varsity letters in soccer, basketball, volleyball, and track and field. Sports taught Steven discipline,
time management, and the value of teamwork. Lessons that continue to shape his life today. After high school, Steven received a full academic and a athletic scholarship to Ryder University where he competed in track and field for three years and the chie and the team
achieved the MAC conference championship six times. While balancing the demands of a student athlete, Steven pursued a degree in criminal justice, a field that has always interested Steven for his real world impact and potential to make a difference. Stephven plans on completing
his bachelor's degree at Ryder this year and is excited at the opportunities that lie ahead. Throughout Steven's journey, the one constant has been the unwavering support of his family and friends. Their encouragement has been a major part of his success both in classroom and on the
field. Whether it was cheering on the sidelines, being there for the tough times, or simply being there to talk, in Steven's free time, he likes to enjoy and relax with friends and family, watching TV, and playing video games. These activities keep him grounded and remind him of what truly matters in
life. Steven looks forward to what the future holds with the support system behind him and every step of the way. Lance Hobbs. Lance is a Jackson, New Jersey native and a 2020 graduate from Jackson Memorial High School where he was a
varsity wrestler. After high school, in a commitment to his country, he joined the United States Marine Corps. Lance served active duty for four years as an infantry rifleman specializing in we weapons systems and close quarter combat, most notably serving as part of
Operation Allies Welcome, a humanitarian mission led by the Department of Homeland Security to support the resettlement of Afghan refugees after the Taliban took over Afghanistan. Lance also deployed to Okinawa, Japan, and the borders of South Korea, where he
and his unit trained over 250 South Korean Marines and infantry tactics and techniques. Lance has received numerous awards during his military time, including the Navy and Marine Corps Achievement Medal for outstanding leadership and meritorious service. Making his return home to Jackson just a
short few months ago, Lance now plans on following his father's legacy as a law enforcement officer and his commitment to Jackson today. In his free time, Lance enjoys staying in shape, going to Yankees games, catching up with the family, and coaching his little brother's little league team.
Ariana Bratton. Ariana has proudly lived in Jackson for her entire life. In 2023, she graduated from Jackson Liberty High School, where she earned her spot on the varsity basketball team and served as team captain for two years. Ariana
became only the second female player in the school's history to score over 1,000 points and receive the most valuable player award for two consecutive seasons. Currently, Ariana is pursuing a dual bachelor's degree in criminal justice and communications with a minor in political science at Ruckers
University. Outside of AC academics, Ariana served as a Girl Scout for nearly 10 years. She participated in local roadside cleanups, toy drives, and making gifts to the elderly and less fortunate. Arianne is also an active member of the New Beginning Ecape
Christian Center Church in Freehold, New Jersey. In her free time, enjoys traveling, reading, and any outdoors activities. In 2024, Ariana began her law enforcement career in the Long Branch Police Department after successfully completing training at the
Mammoth County Police Academy. She graduated as a class one with the 48th class of special law enforcement officers. As a class one, Ariana's responsibilities included traffic and parking enforcement, crowd control, and beach patrol. She also learned the importance of building a strong
relationship with the community and can't wait to do so in the town where she grew up. And Ariana would like to thank her former basketball coach, Coach Haron, for always believing in her and pushing her to succeed. She also extends her gratitude to Lieutenant Cahill,
Sergeant Levy, and Corporal Rodriguez for giving her the opportunity to begin her law enforcement journey in Long Branch and for their guidance and membership that taught her many valuable lessons. Most importantly, Ariana would like to thank her family for their constant love and support, especially
her father, William Broutton, who recently retired after 42 years in law enforcement. His strength, guidance, and love for God continues to inspire her every day. Ariana is both proud and excited for the opportunity to protect and give back to the community she always called home.
Her dedication to service reflects a legacy of leadership and commitment that she is honored to carry on forward. Will the family members who are going to hold the Bible please come up? Good job. That works out well. Okay. Would everybody raise their right
hand? Thank you. Please repeat after me. I state your name for the record. Do solemnly swearly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of New
Jersey and that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same and to the governments established in the United States and in this state under the
authority of the people. and that I will faithfully, impartially, and justly perform all the duties as a police officer for the township of
Jackson according to the best of my ability. Congratulations, [Applause]
You guys just wait. Um, I'd like to take this opportunity to thank Mayor Reena and the administration and the council for the continued support that they give this police department. Um we've been doing a lot of work and trying to grow this department and get us forward to meet the needs of
the township as we're exploding. Uh so I want to thank them uh profusely for all the support that they give us. Uh these six new hires are going to be a great addition. Uh just so everybody knows been authorized to do four more. So we're in the process of hiring four more officers on top of what we have here
tonight. So thank you for that. I appreciate it. Um, I also want to extend condolences to the Sergeant family from the Jackson Township Police Department and our family. Scott was a good friend. He was a good man. He was straightforward. A
little gruff at times, but he was a good man and he said it like he saw it and he was very supportive of this agency. So, my condolences from our family to your family. Have a good night. Thank you. We'll take a five minute break. Thank you. Congratulations, men
and women. I never did mine. Thank you. Let's go, man. They better enjoy one day when you're council president. Thank you. The next item on the agenda is the small business recognition.
Council President Kim. Yes. Thank you. So tonight we want our uh presentation is to uh faded crown barberh shop. Congratulations being the name this named small business of the month for April 2025. Your dedication to excellence and commitment to the
community exemplifies the spirit of entrepreneurship in Jackson Township. We appreciate your contributions and wish you continued success. So I just want to say um I don't know the owner. I've met him before. I believe he goes by Jay. Um
you were recommended by of course our councilman um our police department members of our police department and our DPW. So I think there is a lot of uh people within the township that utilize your barber shop. So Councilman, would you like to say anything? Paul Mary.
Thank you. I' like to take a moment to recognize our April small business highlight Faded Crown Barber Shop owned and operated by Jay. Faded Crown is more than just a barber shop. It's a place where community craftsmanship come together. Jay and his team are not only
talented professionals, but they are also incredibly welcoming, creating an environment that makes every customer feel like family. We are proud to honor Faded Crown for their dedication, passion, and the positive impact they continue to have here in Jackson. Congratulations to Jay and his amazing
staff. If you could come up and get your plaque, you get You know, we're being Congratulations. So, we'll go to opening comments, madam clerk. Thank you. We now hear opening comments from the township council.
Starting with council president Ke. Good evening, everyone. Well, everyone left, but who was here? Before we begin tonight's meeting, I want to take a moment to reflect on what truly special uh Memorial Day parade we had yesterday. It was an honor
to be in attendance and to stand alongside so many members of our community as we paid tribute to the brave men and women who gave their lives to serve our country. Thank you everyone who helped make the such a great event meaningful and memorable for Jackson Day. Let's carry the spirit of unity and
gratitude with us as we move forward tonight. I do have to ask. All right, so this is what I do have to ask. That all contractors working on our town remind their employees to abide by the traffic laws in Jackson and our local roadways.
I am getting so many calls of trucks and companies from the construction that's going on that are going through neighborhoods and driving. We are currently expering issues with trucks traveling on roads that are clearly marked as restricted to vehicles um uh restricted to vehicles over four tons.
Despite the signage, these trucks continue to use prohibited roads, residential roads. Please respect our road signs. Our residents should not have to hear heavy trucks driving up and down their streets and quiet neighborhoods. If any resident is
experienced this, please send me an email with the company name and uh if you could send me a picture, I will personally call the contractor myself. Thank you and have a good night. But seriously, we are having an uptick. We're well aware of it. We are trying to work on it with traffic safety. Um I
know that it's, you know, in a couple a couple roads is getting a lot of it. So, we are working on that. Thank you and have a great night. Council Vice President Bernstein. Thank you, Clerk. Um, I see the officers left. Um, but I just want to take a moment and thank Director Candido and our entire police
department for all their continuous um, work on behalf of Jackson. Um, as everyone is unfortunately aware, this past Friday morning there was a terrible tragedy on Hope Chapel Road where three young teenagers were sadly killed. Um, I just want to take a moment and thank our emergency personnel, our police
department, our EMS, our fire department, all the volunteers from Caveam and Atala who came out um at the early hour and um our prayers are with the one uh teenager who's still still ill. Um and really just I know director
Candido was out there I think 6 a.m. Friday for many many hours. There was great communication with all the private bus vendors and the public school system making sure all the buses were rerouted. Um students still got late to school but everyone did their best on that morning. Um and we appreciate the sensitivity
that everyone up displayed over there and really the leadership that the director together with the chaplain on scene really uh displayed. In following up on that, I received an email today. Um I just wanted to read it. It was a letter. Um I was asked to forward this to the police department. I didn't get a chance to yet. I will hopefully forward it tonight or tomorrow morning to
director. Um, I'm gonna leave some names out. Um, uh, good afternoon, Councilman. We'd like to express our sincere appreciation to the Jackson Police Department. On Friday evening, 5:16, our son, a minor was hospitalized in the NY and in the New York City hospital. Being that we
are Orthodox Jews and Sabbath observers, the medical personnel were unable to reach us by phone. They contacted the Jack this child did not this uh, teenager did not live at home. They contacted the Jackson Police Department to assist them by informing us in person. The officers who responded were extremely uh compassionate and
sympathetic. Most notably, they tried very hard to accommodate our needs as Sabbath observers. They offered to make the various phone calls, hold the phone for us, tried to arrange attacks, and altogether were extremely easygoing and understanding of our situation. We'd like to commend the officers, and unfortunately, I got the names, but I forgot to plug it into this email, so I
can't read their names. for the professionalism and compassion especially in this challenging situation and I really just want to take a moment I know something that director Kandido about community policing and when the when the police department has such a great relationship with the residents it really leads to a safer town so thank you director thank you to the entire
police department and hopefully the police department with their new hirees can just be out directing traffic and I have to clean up any more accidents have a wonderful evening council member Sorry about that. Just the second time that's happened. Thank you. Um,
congratulations to Lieutenant Kinian and um the uh new police officers who took their oath of office tonight. Um, very impressed with um their stories and their backgrounds. I want to uh also um congratulate uh Director Candido on a
very fine class of officers and I have no doubt that they'll do a great job uh for our police department and all the best to them in their careers and we thank them for wanting to serve as law enforcement officers and keeping our great town of Jackson safe and secure 247.
Um we have some township events coming up that I I wanted to share with you and with the residents of our town. Um, Jackson's never uh short of having uh different uh things to do and uh especially with the summer coming up. Our township summer concert series
starts next Thursday uh June 5th with the uh Remedy Band in Johnson Memorial Park uh from 6:30 to 8:00 p.m. Of course, weather permitting. Hope we get great weather for concerts. Um please bring your uh lawn chairs. Uh food trucks will be on site. Uh other
concerts will be held on uh other Thursdays. uh this year. I know last year they were held on Wednesdays and those other Thursdays are uh June 19th, uh July 17th, August 7th and August 21st are when uh concerts are going to be
held. And also um they started it last year uh the recreation department did with the farmers market. Um it started already. It's going to be uh continue to be held in the Justice Complex and will be held every uh Thursday, of course, weather permitting. That's another outdoor event. Um, farmers market will
be held from now until September 4th from 2:00 to 7:00 p.m. And there's always something, as I mentioned before, um, for our fellow residents and visitors, uh, to do in Jackson and thanks to our dedicated township staff when it comes to planning and organizing those events. And more more information
about those events and others can be found on the Jackson Township website at the recreation page. Uh, good seeing you all and um, safe drive home. Thank you. Thank you, Councilman Paul Mary. Thank you. Uh, so I would like to take a
moment and address a concern that I know is a concern to many residents and I want to I want to uh take a moment and explain how Jackson Township is already equipped to deal with this situation and that situation is illegal multif family rentals in single family homes or single
family neighborhoods. We have two strong ordinances in place. Chapter 244 zoning. This prevents homes from being used illegally as multif family residents in single family zones. If a property is mis is being misused, the township can
issue violations, pursue court action, and require the legal use to stop and chapter 234, housing standards. This ensures rent rental homes are safe and livable. If a home is overcrowded or unsafe, the
township can inspect it, issue fines, and if necessary, require it to be vacated. If you suspect illegal renting in your neighborhood, report it to code enforcement or the zoning office. You do not need proof. You don't need to prove it. Just raise the concern and the
township will investigate. And please copy your council members and administration on the email so we can follow up and help ensure the issue is being addressed. And we are committed to protecting the integrity of our neighborhood and making sure that the laws already on the books are being
enforced. I had a resident email me about a week ago with a concern and I forwarded to code enforcement and I'm very pleased to say within three days they got back to me. they were addressing the issue and the resident today emailed me thanking me for getting
involved and that the issue is already starting to resolve itself. So, let's work together. We need the resident's input so we can stop what we see as illegal renting in neighborhoods that uh or in single family homes. And I think we could do it together and if anyone
tells you that council is trying to get in the way of code enforcement or zoning, that is fake news. We're working with them and we are trying to resolve these issues and we need the input of our town so we can continue to do so until everyone is following the law.
Thank you. Councilman, can I just can I add to that because I think that's a great statement because we've been talking about this for how many months? Four, five Councilman, six. Six months we've been talking about this um and we've been going back and forth and I'm I'm glad that we have a united council that is looking into this problem with
the rental. Um, I've asked code enforcement and I've got harassment charges put on me. Um, and that's the truth because I was asking them to be held accountable to do their job and to enforce ordinances that are already on the books. And I am so happy that you
put that in your speech and I I was I was going to leave it tonight to not go against um department heads because of you know in memorance of Scott, but I think Scott would be fighting with us for this because he was a true believer and this just needs to stop. We already have the ordinances in places. We just
need them to start being executed and and held to the standards that they are. And we are looking I want to just I I loved your email when can you just elaborate on what you recommended for the fines because I would love everybody to hear it. It was a little aggressive,
but the point is um I don't think so with council president Kunis saying and I want to give credit I would like to give credit where credit is due within 72 hours last week code and I sent several emails but code enforcement did get back to us. They did visit the
property and fines were issued and there is a resolution taking place. Um but yes, I was rather aggressive. I think it was over what the law allowed. The third one was $10,000. But we are looking at this aggressively because we know it's a major issue. We hear our residents and
we are working towards it. So again, if anyone tells you otherwise, they're either misinformed or they're creating fake news. Thank you, Councilman. I appreciate that. Council President, if I could just ask a question on that note also. Um I there's been allegations that council is like instruct to code
enforcement and that might be a question for our legal team um not to enforce certain laws in this form of government. Does council have the ability to even go directly to code? We absolutely do not. We cannot go to any department head without administration's approval. And it actually um there is emails that I
have that um I've actually been told that issue tickets are not going to be issued until administration tells them that they can they can issue tickets and that's the truth and summones in violations. That is in my email. I mean I think I've been open before so I think it could be and council president just
want to point out I' I've been on serving on this day since December of 23. I know of one time where I picked up the phone and actually emailed um one of our department heads and he forwarded the email to the mayor and asked for permission to speak. Absolutely. Very strict 100%. They abide by and if it's sent to the wrong
department. We do get a lot of, you know, it's not me, it's not me, it's not my department, it's not my department. So whose department is it? Okay. So we'll put I'll put everybody on the email. I don't care. We actually did have um the building department went out to a property that we got complaints about and he actually Mr. Wilton, I'll
be he went out there on Memorial Day and went and shut it down. So, um and but it was a code enforcement. Code enforcement said it's not me, it's them. And then you get building says it's not me, it's them. So, we do get a lot of that. Um but we'll just sit there and keep sending emails. So, um we're more than happy. So, council president, I guess
just for the residents to know, there's two ways that council could know about an issue. One is we have an oversight, which we have the right to request documents, which we've done vigorously and and tremendously. I've read through thousands of documents um over the past couple couple months, but thousands. Yeah. Additionally, we also if someone
CC's us on the email, then we're notified of the issue, we can definitely ask a department head by CCing the mayor or Miss Novak and hope to that they take it, but we hope to get to a point where people don't have to CC elected officials in order to have their issues resolved. 100%. Thank you. I I do
appreciate you bringing that up because I did say, you know, we wanted to keep it about Scott, but I'm I'm glad that you did because and again, just for the residents, it's uh ordinance 244 and ordinance 234. Um call your zoning, call your code and and CC us and we will make
sure we follow up. And we are looking into additional meetings with having um annual inspections through fire uh not the fire department but within code to have uh officers be do in for all rentals. So we are working on that. Again I've been working on it for a
while along with the rest of the council takes a lot but we we do we are adhering to it. It's not that we're ignoring any any issues. So council if I could just ask for a second because I think it's important during the budget process budget season um to talk about that. Yes. Um there's also been I guess various rumors and allegations that this
council wants to completely gut code enforcement. Um which is just again fake news. Um I think council is looking at resolving some of the issues. There's been multiple emails and complaints about certain issues in town. We'd rather have departments that are solely focused on those issues to resolve them. For example, we both had meetings with
our code code code department in the past month about. Correct. And it's something that they're on board with about allocating and giving certain officers training to focus on these rentals. Yes. So, they have a way of getting in there on a yearly basis and seeing if one house is actually three families and I was sitting there with the with the head of code enforcement. Um, I mentioned that I know I took a
walk on Saturday and I passed three houses that no questions to me were were more than one. And he said to me, "So, why don't you email to me?" And I said, "I don't think that's my job to be to be a code enforcement officer. I don't think it's the residents that they have to give us a list. I think it's the the
job of the department. Um so we definitely support um and again thank you councilman for bringing it up. Just want to elaborate since we're on it and this is like a huge passion of mine as you can see. So I did I pulled a name out of a hat and I can't say who it was but I pulled a name out of the hat and I
did a GPS tracking. I did a uh time card tracking and I did a violation writing on this code enforcement officer. The person wrote five tickets, two of which were walk-ins, five tickets in 30 days,
was driving every day and leaving work an hour early every single day. Driving around, leaving the car running for up to almost three hours of idle time. And if that's not like something that you guys find a
I have a problem with that. And then you know I brought it up to department head and he was like well she driving they're driving around looking for possible violations. I'm like I could turn in a 360 and find five violations on any street. So it's definitely not that's
not that's not the answer my friend. So So I don't think I think we're hopefully um we're going to be working on the budget in the next meeting or two. do have the CFO coming and the auditor coming to the next meeting to do a Q&A for the budget right on the announcement and that's definitely something that we
are working on within specifically code enforcement making sure that if we're getting these various complaints that the code enforcement is putting the resources to what where the complaints are not just way spending time and money on the streets but again it's not about code enforcement but thank you
councilman for bringing that up thank you little rant but thank you for bringing that up madam clerk Thank you. The next item of business is the second reading and public hearing of ordinance 202514 introduced on May 13,
2025. Ordinance 202514 amending chapter 3 101.1 entitled director of public safety. At this time, if any member of the public has any comments to make, please address at the microphone, state your name and address clearly for the
record. You have five minutes and may only speak once. May I have an open May have a motion to open public comment? Motion. Second. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Motion approved. Motion approved. Hi, Donnie Adam will drive
Jackson. I before I assume anything I is this in regards to either memorializing or expanding the powers of our police director Candido? Is he going to be the director of public safety?
He he already is. He already is. He already is. Okay. Is there morality and I guess you know not bringing shame upon the department clause and his employment agreement not bringing I'm sorry. Is there any sort of morality or not bringing shame to the
department? Council president, I think he's bringing the morality up. No, no. I you could say that, but I I can say it because I I'm the leazison to the police department. I've been the for two and a half years and I do talk to them and they are very happy. He asking about who can make changes over at police the
justice complex. Well, that's because remember I sent the entire board. All right. Mr. Paul Mary was not here at the time, but I sent the entire board an email in regards to my issues when I was filming over there and you told me that the only person that can make changes is
Chief Coons if he gets authorization from Mayor Raina. Spoke to Mayor Raina, he didn't give authorization. I just spoke to Chief Coons, he didn't give author authorization. This guy right here because he didn't like me filming and I it's sickening on the week of Memorial Day when he's thrown away. Mr. Adam, this has nothing to do with the
ordinance. if you want to come that back to public. He's not qualified to be doing it anymore. He he is qualified to really Yeah, Mr. Adam, this is a hearing on an ordinance which makes an amendment to the ordinance itself. If you want to comment on any of that portion of the ordinance amendments, yeah, this is the time to do so. This is not about him.
It's about an ordinance whether he's there or someone else. Let me finish please. Let me finish please. This is a time to comment on the ordinance amendment. That's it. You can come back afterwards and speak during public comment. For for all public safety directors now and in the future, please
add a moral morality clause to their employment agreements. So at this way when they're doing things like abusing people, cheating on people, and everything's like that. Sir, that has nothing to do with the ordinance. Well, no. I when it's being broadcast on
Facebook all over town and certainly thousands of people are now aware of what's going on. It doesn't look good on our town. Thank you, sir. See you later. Bye. No sir. On the ordinance. I'll make a motion to close public
comment. Motion. Second. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Motion approved. May I have a motion to adopt ordinance 202514? Motion. Second. Council member Elli. Yes. Councilman Paul Mary. Yes. Council Vice President Bernstein. Yes. And thank
you attorney McCain for fixing this ordinance. Council President Ke. Yes. Mr. The next item of business is a second reading and public hearing of ordinance 202515 introduced on May 13, 2025. Ordinance 202515 amending and
supplementing chapter 244 of the township code of the township of Jackson entitled land use and development regulations as to amend 24432 entitled performance safety and stabilization and temporary certificate of occupancy guarantees and 24434
entitled approval of performance guarantees. At this time if any member of the public has any comments to make, please address the council at the microphone and state your name and address clearly for the record. You'll have five minutes and may only speak once. May I have an motion to open public comment? Motion to open. Second.
Second. All in favor? I. Any oppose? Motion approved. Hi, Hope Drew. Um, just a quick question. Just do your town or straight or can you hear? I know it's annoying. Um, just so I can understand. You just got to state where
you live or your town. No, Jackson. Jackson. That's fine. Um I just want to read real quick. So it says performance, safety, stabilization, and temporary certificate of occupancy guarantees. Um what does that all mean in layman's terms? What does that mean? This is for the clerks. This is what we're doing is
we're moving everything that should be out of the clerk's office out of the clerk's office. And this is going to be with the engineer. Correct, madam clerk? Yes. Yes. So, we're getting the the clerk has you're going to see in the all the new the first readings today, three of them are all bonds and so all this stuff has been in the clerk's office and
it shouldn't be in the clerk's office. So, we're moving it into the proper department. So, it's not really a if you're looking at temporary certificate of occupancy. It's not like a C word. No, it's not. No, that's why it came up. I know. Okay. You could have just texted me.
Business. Seeing no one else come forward, make a motion to close public comment. Motion. Second. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Motion to approve. May I have a motion to adopt ordinance 202515?
Motion. Second. Councilman Blli. Yes. Council Paul Mary. Yes. Council Vice President Bernstein. Yes. And I want to take a moment and thank the clerk for um working very hard and cleaning up and um again to remove I guess some of the power from the clerk's
office to other departments which is I guess goes against what everything says about us on Facebook. Thank you council president. I just want to uh reiterate thank you thank you thank you for cleaning up and putting things into the hands where they belong
and not everything into a micromanaged situation and let people do their job that are being paid to do their job. Thank you. Yes. Motion approved. The next item of business is second reading of public hearing of ordinance
202516 amending and supplementing chapter 244 of the township code entitled land use development regulations article 7 pylons area requirements. At this time, if any member of the public has any comments to make, please address the council at the microphone
and state your name and address clear for the record. You have five minutes and may only speak once. I have a motion to open public comment. Motion second. All in favor? I. Any oppose? Motion to approve. Elanor Hannah, Jackson, New Jersey. Um,
I'm quite curious about how you decided to revise the um original 30-23 ordinance that you can no longer find on the website where all the other ones are in 2023. But what I do find
very very interesting is that the wording it kind of legally ease the fact that you're using notwithstanding throughout the entire ordinance um leaving this to interpretation not binding a specific requirement and why
the wording of this ordinance with notwithstanding this requirement only means that it can be interpreted however the developer or the planning zoning board's wish to open. This also opens to
interpretation that it's kind of biased when it comes to a residential property and a assembly or a house of worship. Um, the other thing that I discovered in here is that there's many elements that
have been removed or tweaked. The height for houses of worship may exceed 50 ft. and you took out the requirement that once it goes over the original 35 ft requirement um they're supposed to
add another 2 ft of you know the the setbacks that was taken out um the Piland's village the RG2 the RG3 instead discriminates against other types of uses by holding those
establishments to the standard and the specific criteria. So therefore favoring a house of worship, a private school, dormitories on a different level
as a commercial use. So the entire premise of the consent order was to bring assembly uses on a same level. what you're doing here is now discriminating
against a commercial operation or an assembly. And it this is just mind-boggling to me. What I also will just make note because I do have the Pineland's letter of the requirements
when they did deny your ordinance 3023. And one of the things that it says in here which is not addressed is the RD1 zone in the Pinelands. It permits a height a maximum height of 50 ft for houses of worship. The RD1 and I'm
quoting right from the Pineelands Commission. The RD1 zone is located in a Pineland's rural development area. The comprehensive master plan for the Pinelands limits the height of structures in the rural development area to 35 ft unless otherwise
exempt and the state statute is very clear. It also states that the lot size requirements for single family dwelling units are quite different than non-residential uh development areas.
Um I would like to question or wonder where is the density and the intensity of use because as we can see there is absolutely no density limits the impervious um the total impervious requirement is
not there. So therefore, they can basically black top everything. Um, and you can tweak your head, but this is all from an attorney that reviewed it. Um, basically, isn't this township
opening itself up to litig litigation for discrimination because it is favoring one type of use over another type of use. Therefore, it's completely discriminatory. Therefore, other types of uses are bound by setbacks in
different requirements where other the uses that you're permitting here, houses of worship, private schools, dormitories, um they have a different requirement notwithstanding which is legal wording
for interpretation. So again, when and I will quote when the ordinance refers to a minim minimum lot area 3.2 acres notwithstanding this requirement no minimum lot area for a
non-residential use shall be less than that needed to meet the water quality standards. So again, there's no density, there is no intensity of use. Thank you. Absolutely. I think it's important that
um the public be aware of of um the impact and the purpose of this ordinance. So, as I'm sure all the public is well aware, um this ordinance was negotiated as part of the settlement
of the township's litigation with the United States Department of Justice as well as private action plaintiffs and to a certain extent the New Jersey Attorney General's Office and the New Jersey Division of Civil Rights.
Um, we're I think everybody who was involved with this at the time and and in fact I'm confident that I provided counsel on this in private and in public that any changes to the ordinances with respect to the pine would be subject to
Pineland's review. Um, fortunately, unfortunately, the New Jersey Pineelands Commission will not provide an advisory opinion, meaning that as we are going through the negotiations process and even prior to
the township um reviewing and acting on these ordinances, the Pilates Commission said it's not within the scope of their authority to issue an advisory opinion, and they're not permitted under their enabling statute um to give guidance the
recommendations on what may or may not be approved until after the municipality has acted. Um we certainly um advised both the court, both the Department of Justice, the New Jersey Attorney General's Office, the private action
plaintiffs, the township of Jackson that there was a chance that upon review the um Highlands Commission may say, "Hey guys, we have some issues with this ordinance and we're going to seek um some provisions." Uh which is exactly
what happened. And so um you know it's important to understand what the Pineland's Commission's uh concerns were and where they arise from. So the Pineland's Commission obviously is a state entity and its authority arises from state
statute. Um and there are state statutes that govern the scope of their authority, how the Peland's Commission can act and also setting forth what can and cannot be done within the designated Pineland zones. And so, um, upon initial submission to the Pinelands Commission
for review, the Pinelands identified, um, some points that they, um, said that they felt the township and the various parties involved needed to revisit, uh, to, uh, bring into compliance with the
Piland's comprehensive management protocols. Um, the first was lot sizes for houses of worship and RD1. Second was height limits with respect to houses of worship in RD1. Um there were minimum
lot size requirements uh for both schools primary and secondary and higher institutions. Um there were minimum lot sizes as it had to do with conditional uses for um dormitories or residential
um accessory uses. Um there were concerns with lot sizes for student faculty residences. Um there were also questions about pylons developments credits that they wanted to be addressed and they
wanted clarity on the difference between how wastewater management would work for the different types of uses. Um, one of the other most sign one of the more significant issues they raised was that under their enabling statutes,
um, there was a difference between accessory or conditional and what can be accessory and what can be conditional uses as as opposed to what the township is permitted to do under its municipal ordinances. Um and so that is a lot of what we've
dealt with over um the the the following, you know, last year and a half as far as um as far as addressing these issues. And um what's resulted from that I could say from a big picture is that within the Pineland
zone, the um the dormatory use has to be accessory as opposed to conditional. and that's going to put certain more stringent requirements on an applicant as far as being able to merge the properties or have them be on the same property. Um
the density issue was addressed through the requirement. Now, and again, I'll say this, when you look at the ordinance that we're act we're enacting tonight, you're going to see that a lot of the changes have to do with with septic size and with approval for the the amount of of land and that that's how density is
addressed. And so Pilandin said, "Hey guys, even though we understand that the the county or the state may have certain standards that are in place that ultimately an applicant has to comply with, um we're asking and we're directing that you include those standards within
um your ordinance and and and so the township did. Um the township also for with respect to the Pineland zone um has required that the dormatory uses are going to be accessory as opposed to conditional. Um and that's going to
require uh changes in how the property is owned and how it's and how it's merged and the sizes of the property. The township um reduced the um maximum height in certain zones to be in
accordance with state law. uh the township included in the ordinance adopting um minimum acreage standards um as it relates to um septic systems and and because again as this area right the pylons area it's
a it's a not a uh it's an area that is not on public sewer so it's an area these are areas that are going to be on septic and so there was a requirement that we adopt um minimum acreage sites as it related to the different type of
septic systems that would be necessary um to um service those types of developments and enable those developments to be built. Um, and so what occurred was back
in in, you know, late 2023, and I'm sure everybody remembers there was, you know, a public hearing on this in which the public had the opportunity to comment on both the non-pinelands and the Pinelands ordinances. Um, and both were were adopted by the township at that time.
However, pursuant to state law, while both can be adopted by the township, the Peland's ordinance would not become effective until it was approved by the Pineland. So, although adopted by the township, it was not effective because it wasn't adopted by the Pinelands yet. Over the last 18 months or so, um, we've
been working with Pinelands to create an ordinance that satisfies the goals of the settlement agreement while also satisfying the concerns of the state of New Jersey and the Pineelands Commission. Um, and preserving and maintaining um, you know, their overall
planning and development goals. Um and so now this ordinance that's before the council this evening uh on second reading is really a revision of the initial ordinance was that was adopted.
Now while it was adopted and never effective effectuated that sounds like a lot of legal ease but that's what happens when you're dealing with an agency that has ultimate approval authority. So we are revising the prior ordinance which was 3023
um with the provisions that are being set forth in this evening's ordinance and the overall effect of this is to make higher standards. It's difficult you say higher and lower. So that's not that's probably not the appropriate
language. um the standards that are going to be put in place uh as a result of this ordinance will have the effect of making the development of really the residential component of any school slightly more difficult. Um the reality
is that schools were permitted in the Pineland zones well before this ordinance was adopted and and this didn't really have much of effect on that. Um but the um the pylons is concerned about density of residential
uses and the intensity of uses and the revisions that Pelins has requested and that all the stakeholders in this negotiation agreed to have the overall effect of ensuring that it will that if there
will be um more intense uses or higher density that there will be sufficient amount of land to provide for that that the um storm water in the septic plants will be sufficient that the building heights will be reduced and that the
uses will be accessory as opposed to conditional. Um certainly um this does not and and I think it it it goes without saying that the New Jersey Pinelands Commission would not approve an ordinance that left ambiguity and
enabled developers to just build willy-nilly and do what they want or left it open to a planning board or zoning board. The Peland's Commission is concerned about certainty and about ensuring that the standards set forth in the state or state statutes um governing
the Peland zones are enforced and we worked together. We worked collegially um and collaboratively and came to a result that is before the council this evening and will both enable the intent
of the prior ordinance as well as protect the purpose of the state's ordinances. Um and it took a while certainly did. Uh but that's how we got here. And and there is certainly no ambiguity here. There is no room for
movement. Um there are very strict standards. Their standards relate to building height to density. Um use is not changed except with respect to whether it's conditional or accessory. Um but the types of uses do not change. And in fact, if you went back to prior
to 2023, schools were permitted um in these zones. Houses of worship were permitted in these zones. There is actually a public school in this zone. Um so um you know what is before the council this
evening um while certainly can be somewhat difficult to read because it it can read like a combination of legal ease and engineering um does represent a codification of Pineland's commission's
uh purpose goals and intent for the uses in their zone. So that's where we are members of the council. Thank you. Well said. No, it's still open. I really didn't intend hope Drew. I didn't intend on asking questions about
this, but just sitting there. Um, so I was trying to understand when you talk about density and um intensive use, you're talking about new construction of houses of worship or you talking residential homes that turn into houses of worship because you still haven't
defined that yet. Right. So, if there's a development, no, that's not true. You can make a statement. Just because you make a statement and then say you haven't done it doesn't make it true. So, Oh, okay. Has it been done? What we're talking about? Excuse me. No, no, no. We're off to a wrong start already. How did that happen? Whoa, whoa, whoa,
whoa. So, this entire opinion, we're going to we're going to talk for five minutes. He's not going to answer and then he's going to answer and then we're going to end it because I we're not going to have Well, however you whatever when you're done, just let me know you're done and then the Huh? Are you defensive? Go ahead. No,
you go. Oh, I'm going. So then then correct me if I'm wrong. The my my issue, what I'm asking you is this. I'm just trying to follow because you realize that a lot of people don't understand any of this. You're discussing the density and the intensity of use of what in the not in the Pineel.
What are we talking about? Of a residential accessory use. Not a residential home. No. Okay. Okay, that's our that not there has been no change to that within the to single family use within the within the pile itself. Okay,
but when a house does turn into a house of worship, does the intensity of use come into play? I don't understand that question. That sounds that sounds like you're asking a loaded political question, which is fine. You can do that. But if you have a real question for me, I'll answer that. A loaded political question. It's a We're talking
about uses right now. We're talking about intensity uses. So I'm just curious how things are knowledgeable enough that you know that if somebody has a single family residential home and they wish to change it to a house of worship they can go file an application
with appropriate with the appropriate department who will probably go before the appropriate land use board and then it'll be adjudicated. Um I'm talking about when there is no process and no one has applied for a change. So that's not that's not what this ordinance this is going about the ordinance. I'm just going to shut this down. So, okay. Thank
you. We'll come back later. Okay. Thank you. She's not asking. No, I know she's Hi, guys. I have a question about this. Can you just give your name and address for the record, please? Sure. I'm Dana. My name's Dana. I live in Bowman. I'm actually part of the Pinelands area. Um,
my question is when was the actual meeting with the Pinelands? What day? What time? Because it's not matching up. It seems like uh the Pinelands refused. Hold on. They're saying they can't discuss the Pelands and refused to
cross the Peland's letter because there with everything with the properties. My thing is what's the truth on the matter? Because what's your question? A couple the properties right in Pinelands. Sorry, I'm getting That's okay. Just a
little. No, no, no. Ner. I don't like public speaking. That's fine. That's why just you give me your questions. I'm going to write them down and then the attorney will answer too. So go ahead. I live in the pine. Yes. When I came when all this was happening, right, when we were going through the lawsuit,
my house and all the properties on there are in there. My thing is now they're being bought up. They're all LLC's. We are having problems, but I have never commented on it because I say to myself, my thing is their LLC's once they knock those down or if they use those for
worship and then build up, can they do that? Because my thing is we're on wetlands. Where does the pylons have the meeting to say that they can actually build on wetlands over there? So, so great question. So, this this the Pelands, we've met with the Pylons, not in a formal way. Do you have a day and
time though? because I tried looking up this information and I can't find anything about it. Well, no, because we did not part Listen, I'll be we the Poundlands Commission public meeting is not where we are meeting with the pilots. We met with their planners. We met their engineers. We met with their experts to go over this. Now, after
this, if the council approves this ordinance, it will go before a public meeting of the Pinelands, probably at some point in June or July, most likely July, I suspect. Um and then they'll the pylons would consider this revised
version of the ordinance. Now the second question you asked is if there's development in the pylons and that's different, right? Because you're developing in the Pelands then but the problem is as developer you have an obligation to go well that but if you're a developer who's developing in the Pelands you have to obtain in certain
circumstances approval, right? Just because you have an ordinance that a municipality that's within the Pelands passes doesn't mean that you can automatically or always build there because there may be other issues that would prevent that. Um these are ordinances that set forth you know the
10,000 foot view on what can be done there. But every property is going to be different right if a property is wet. But like you said, if they buy the property and they do a house of worship, right? Then they start building, they start buying the houses next door, they can knock down those houses and build up
or go wide. My problem is your question. The properties on here when we live lives in the P. I live over there. I have three something acres, right? Property next to me has six. There's a lot of wetlands. You can't build on wetlands. And the water by us is getting
more water is coming in. Okay. Now they're if they build there, we're going to have problems. That's if if property is wet. I want to make sure that that's not like if you probably have a C1 over there. So that's like a 350 foot buffer. That doesn't change. This has nothing to do with
that. So if you have wetlands, you can't build on wetlands. Wetland. That's what I want to make sure because it seems like everything's changing and everyone's making their own rules. So I'm like, what? Your house will sink. There is no change here to any of the wetlands related standards. Um and and
and just so we're clear, all of the changes that are being proposed in this ordinance this evening, I I would say are requiring that you have more space to build, not less. Right? It's it's they're increasing the density the you
could say increasing or decreasing. You can have you have to have more property to have more residential units, right? So you could say it's making it a higher standard. Um, it's reducing the building height. Anytime you reduce building height, that means that you can't go as high. So, you
need to have more land to go out wide, right? Um, that's what all the that's the practical effect of these revisions that are in this ordinance this evening. Attorney, she's almost done. Go ahead. You I can we stop the clock for a
second, Council President? Stop one second if I correctly. There was a meeting in like 2023 where residents came up with with a list of properties that were in the with which were in the I think you were one of those residents. Yes, I was in the back by that meeting. I think what I think what what the resident is asking Mr. Pullman is that
she came and her property was obviously listed in that list and people are buying up properties in the area and she wants to know how that and she wants to know how that affects her property. And I think if I could just paraphrase with not without the legal words and and Mr. correct me if I'm wrong is anyone would
still have to go in front of the appropriate authorities if they dealing with wetlands or any other they can people can buy whatever they want. It doesn't mean they can build whatever they want. No, there's a lot of misinformation. A lot of developers may be buying property, but it doesn't mean they could just build. Well, the developers aren't doing that. No,
they're getting away with certain things. They are and we know it. That's why I'm getting nervous because now we have wetlands. Like it's it's bad. It's very soggy. and if they're if they are going to do this because they're starting houses next to us. They're taken down. They're building stuff. I'm
like, "Wait a minute. You can't even get a shed on, but they're able to do certain things." I'm like, "So, what I'll do is I'll give you my card at the end of the meeting and then you can email me your address and I'll send it and we'll we'll This ordinance in no way reduces and it's fine. If you have more
questions, you ask this. This this in no way reduces the requirements as to how it relates to a building on wet properties, the wetland buffers, the enhancements, anything like that. Okay? Because looking at this, it says you can go like 35 ft high, right? That's why
I'm like, wait a minute. That's actually a reduction. There was a it was originally higher because it because in it the standard was used as it applies to other areas non-pinelands areas of Jackson and and so it's being reduced to that because in the Pinelands that's the
maximum permissible height in those zones. Yes. Because it used to be six acres. Then I saw here that you can build that has changed a minimum lot of 3.2 acres. But I noticed that did change. It used to be six. That's if you're going to have the convent a conventional
septic system, which that's in align with the county. So, well, let's say the county. This is one of the things that we said township always felt that standard was there because that's a an outside agency requirement. Um, Pineland said, "We would like you to include that in your ordinance." And so, that's
included there as pursuant to Pinland's request. Um although that standard has always existed, right? That that if you're going to have a conventional septic system, um your your minimum acreage for that type of use would be 3.2. That that that's I just want to
elaborate. You can't have a you have to have a special septic in the Pineellands. Yeah. So, it's never going to h you can't you just can't have it. You can't you you can't have just like a septic that's in, you know, my neighborhood is not going to be the same that's in the Pineellands. They're a lot more money. They're a lot more there. There's it's it's a more elaborate. So,
I just want to make sure that there's clarity on that that it's in there. And if I'm wrong, they they made you put it in there, but it's like it's a catch 22 because it's not applicable to the that side of town. It So, what you're saying is it's not going to happen on that side of town. No. No. On where you're saying in the Pinelands in this ordinance where
it's applicable in this ordinance, you don't you have Pinelands and all them. So, you can't just put a standard septic in there. So, why it's in there? I guess I kind of that's why I was confused about that because they they made them put it in, but it's that's the accepted standard, right? That's and and so
Piland says that's what the county reviews. We want you to put that in there. So it's in there, but there's you have Pineland, so you're not going to be able to use that septic. You're not going to get approved for it anyway. Okay. All right. Thank you very much. Thank you, ma'am. Carl Martins, Jackson, New Jersey. And
I'm here as a resident. Just a resident. That's fine. No free range. Um, so I wasn't planning on talking about this, but it came up. So I'm actually fortunate enough that my home is on seven
acres. Uh, I think four of them are deemed wetlands. I learned all that after I bought the house. I didn't know uh but looked into it and there is confusion um you know pineand doesn't mean it's wetland and wetland doesn't mean it's
pine land pine land and the rules around wetlands let me tell you it is horrible I'm not horrible sorry it is very difficult I can't build anything on it I can't even cross to get to the other side of my property because I'd be crossing the wetlands and supposedly
you're not supposed to do that so there is confusion and and I think that's probably why you hear a lot of the back and forth forth. Um but it is important for us the residents to understand the difference between pine land and wetland. Um before
we get into this anyway question that's just because I heard all all the discussions that were going on. Um specifically though you mentioned about a document legal ease and crazy stuff. Where could
I get access to that? Um to to read it. This whole document that everybody's talking about. Not not not the not the consent order. It's on our website. It is. Is it if you want I'll check with the clerk. By the way, the clerk is awesome. Yes. I Wow. We're well aware.
Those those Yeah. We have an amazing whole staff and we're very very excited. Yeah, I'm getting I'm getting I'm getting sure when you're looking for it the original the what I'll say original the ordinance that's being revised tonight
was ordinance 30-23. Yeah. And that's being done. Okay. Via ordinance 2025-16. Right. Yeah. We'll send you both of them. We have the old one. And so as long as I read those two Yes. Right.
I'll have that legal ease stuff. Yes. Figured, you know, whatever. I'll read it. Okay. Yeah. Because Yeah. I prefer to do that than watch the Knicks. So, what am I going to do? They just started. So, they're going to win. It's in my DNA. I can't help myself.
Um, okay. The other the other thing is um you mentioned I think coming up there there there will be a date which we will meet with um there'll be a meeting like a public meeting where we can attend with the pine. This isn't that has nothing to do with the ordinance. So he
I believe he was talking about something with the county with the with the pineelands but that's not us. So this is our meeting. I just we have to I just we have do you have any questions pertaining to No, I'm done. But just to answer your question, sir at some point
June or July, maybe August, but I suspect June or July. If the council votes to approve this ordinance this evening, it will go before the Pinelands Commission at their public meeting. They have one public meeting a month. Okay.
And and again, this just like the prior just like 30-23. Yep. This ordinance can be adopted by the township, but until because it's it relates to the Pineland zones, until it's approved by the New Jersey Pilands Commission, it is not effective and
enforceable. Right. Right. So, that meeting is critical for us because it impacts this organization. That's why we're here doing it again because the last time it wasn't approved 18 months ago. I got you. Yes. All I'm trying to get is when is that am I am I invited to that meeting with Pinelands? No, we have
nothing to do with it. It go We have nothing to do with go. It's a public meeting. You can't go there and make a statement. It's not a public meeting. You could It's a public meeting. It's just not here. It's not here. No, I understand. So, we have no idea. I don't We don't know the date. I'd like to go. We enjoy this stuff. We don't know. We don't know. If I find out, I'll let you
know. I promise. I suspect it will be there. June, June, July, or August. July. Probably July. No. Right. Final by September. You'll you'll notify. I won't have to go look somewhere on Google or something. If I don't I don't know. We don't know. Okay. Okay. Thanks. Thank
you. It would be states. Good evening, Edward. Hi. Originally, I wasn't going to speak on this, but I'm listening. I'm curious. Um, councel, who do you represent in that matter that you're speaking on? The
township of Jackson. And where did you get your instructions from to go into those negotiations? The township. What did Jackson Township require of you when you went into those negotiations for this land use? It is his comment about the ordinance.
It is when I have an attorney that represents me. Yeah. He gets his instructions from me. I'd like to know who's I know this is questions pertaining to the ordinance. If you want to come back at the end for open comment, you can come in and ask him who question about the or this is questions pertaining to the ordinance. If he was
negotiating on behalf of Jackson, that's where he got his instructions to enter into those negotiations for this land use. This is that's not a question about the ordinance. So this is all done pursue to a settlement agreement that was voted on by the council 18 months ago. Okay. And again, if he's
representing Jackson, what instructions did he get to enter into those? That that would be administration. This is council. This is legislation. He got he's got his instructions from the administration. That's where they And where can we find those those instructions? Sir, this is I'd be more than happy. Listen, if you
have a question, ask. It is. I'm asking. I'd like to know what instruction you got to enter into those negotiations about that. So, this is questions about the ordinance and if you have any questions pertaining to the instructions that the legal absolutely please. Okay. And is that Oprah going to get answered or the records going to be sent to me as
no responsive records? We I will when she legitimate questions if an attorney represents my interest. This is about the ordinance. Okay. And again, so is my question. it maybe it's not being understood but if he's negotiating on behalf of Jackson Jackson has a right to
understand what instructions he's being given to go into and there's nobody from administration here do you see anybody from administration here so we can't answer that question I know so then what that's unfortunately we can't answer it well there has to be somebody that could answer it at some point okay and when you send over absolutely thank you sir
thank you seeing no one else come forward make a motion to Close public comment. Motion. Second. All in favor? I I. Any opposed? I have a motion to adopt ordinance 202516.
Motion. Second. Councilman Browley. Uh, thank you, Clerk Martin. Uh, I stated my reasons at the last council meeting of why I was uh not supporting uh ordinance
16-2025. Um, my overriding concern continues to be potential development in the environmentally sensitive Pelands areas of our town. I voted no on a similar uh ordinance for the nine Pinelands area of our town. And um I
will continue to um not support this uh in the Pinelands areas of our town as I represent the entirety of uh our town. So I vote no on ordinance uh 16-2025. Councilman Paul Mary,
just before I vote, councelor, if this ordinance, and I asked this before with Mr. McGucken, but I'm going to ask you since you've been on this, if this ordinance does not pass, what are the ramifications this evening for us with the state of New Jersey, etc.? So, it the the it would essentially be to say
that we're not going to comply with the settlement agreement that the township had um approved in the fall of 2023. Um when that settlement agreement with the Department of Justice, private action plaintiffs um went through, this was one
of the conditions of it. Um it the settlement agreement set forth terms. It set forth financial obligations. had set forth um certain um oversight obligations and one of them were that this ordinance both the non-pilins and
the pylons ordinance be passed and that settlement agreement did specifically have an exhibit which set forth the terms that would be ended up becoming this ordinance. Now the reason why that ordinance wasn't included in that settlement agreement is because you
can't adopt an ordinance via settlement agreement. you have to actually go through the ordinance process. Um, so Councilman, the effect would be to be telling the Department of Justice that we were not going to comply with a settlement agreement that we voted on in
the fall 2023 is the effect. Okay. Thank you. I I would prefer not to put the town in that position. I vote yes. Council Vice President Bernstein. Yes. And if I could just ask another quick question, um, just because I got a couple phone calls about it. Um it's not
really completely related to this ordinance, but just to clarify in the record, um part of the DOJ settlement included a a fund that the town paid out to certain um entities. The governing body as the council members have anything to do with choosing which entities got those funds? No, absolutely
not. Um how did those funds come about? Well, the monies were deposited by by the the the township, I guess, the administration into a a designated account and then the department of justice allocated where those monies
would go. The extent um that the council's involvement in that was that the council at the time insisted that we and on on our on council's advice and and and recommendation and that the monies not go to anybody who had sued
the township. Um but there wherever the monies were allocated to um were completely decided by the United States Department of Justice, not by uh anybody in Jackson or in the state of New Jersey for that sale. Okay. Thank you. I vote
yes, Council President Ke. I have to agree. Um I don't think I want to put the town um at any more uh open up any more lawsuits. So I'm going to vote yes. Thank you. Motion
approved. The next item of business is the first reading and introduction of ordinance 202517 amending and supplementing chapter 372 of the township code of the township of Jackson entitled streets and sidewalks article 5 entitled street
vacation procedure as to amend 3724A and B entitled application procedure. Council President Zenune, are there any comments on ordinance 202517? So, this is continuing on what we had discussed before, cleaning up the clerk's office. These amendments aim to
streamline the streets and sidewalk applications procedures, ensure that the township clerk maintains the official approval approved bond and that the application forms are submitted directly to the township engineer.
Are there any questions or comments by the township council? No ma'am. Ordinance 202517. May I have an motion to approve ordinance 202517 on first reading and introduction and to authorize the notice of public hearing
to be held on June 12th, 2025? Motion. Second. Council member, yes. Council Paul Mary, yes. Council Vice President Bernstein, yes. Council President Cune, yes. Thank you. The next item of business is the first reading and introduction of ordinance 202518
amending and supplementing 372 of the township code of the township of Jackson entitled streets and sidewalks article 3 entitled street openings as to amend 37211A through D entitled prerequisites to opening streets and 372 through 14A
and B entitled bond requirements schedule of estimated costs. Council President Kuner are there any comments on ordinance 202518? Yes, these amendments aim to streamline the street opening procedures and ensure that the township clerk uh maintains all
official records. The application forms are to be submitted directly to the township engineer. Are there any questions or comments by the township council? I would just like to eventually look at this and get it when they open them up, make the the contractors do the whole road instead of just opening up that space. But that's
my own personal. That's all. May I have a motion to approve ordinance 202518 on first reading and introduction to or to to authorize the notice of publication to be held on June 12th, 2025? Motion. Second. Thank you. Council
member, yes. Council Paul Mary. Yes. Council Vice President Bernstein. Yes. Council President Ke. Yes. The next item of business is the first reading and introduction of orders 202519 amending and supplementing 185 the township code of the township of
Jackson entitled excavation mining and dredging as to amend 1852A and 1852E entitled application licensing and 185-6A entitled bond. Council President Kuner are there any comments on orders
202519? Yes. These amendments aim to streamline the excavation, mining, and dredging applications procedures to ensure that the township clerk maintains the official bond once approved and the application forms are submitted to the township engineer directly. Thank you. Are there any questions or comments by
the township council? We have a motion to approve ordinance 202519 on first reading and introduction to authorize the notice of the public hearing to be held on June 12th, 2025. Motion. Second. Councilman Browley. Yes. Councilman Paul Mary. Yes. Council Vice President Bernstein. Yes.
Council President Hune. Yes. Thank you. The next item of the business is a first reading introduction of ordinance 202520 establishing a 35 mile per hour speed limit for Grand Boulevard. Council President Kuner. Are there any comments on ordinance 202520? Yes. At the request of the Jackson Township Police
Department, the township engineer TNM Associates have prepared a study to address the speed limit on Grant Boulevard between Bowman Road and Veter and uh Veterans Highway. As a result, the study of the Jackson Township Police and the Township Engineer have recommended to the township council that
a 35 mph speed limit be established. Are there any questions or comments by the township council? No, ma'am. May I have a motion to approve ordinance 202520 on first reading and introduction to authorize the notice of the public hearing to be held on June 12th, 2025.
Motion second. Councilman Bradley? Yes. Councilman Paul Mary? Yes. Council Vice President Bernstein? Yes. Okay. Council President Ke. Yes. Sorry. Thank you. Um, our attorney just has a comment in regards to ordinance 2025-21 that he needs to read
into the record and then I am going to give him his own little thing to read. So, we'll just let the Minion do it. After discussions with the tach engineer this afternoon, I'm just going to change it to a right-of-way easement as opposed to a right-of-way deed of dedication. So
the title will include public rightway easement and the language of the ordinance um in the bottom in the uh body of it will indicate rightway easement as opposed to a deed of dedication. Ordinance 2025-21 authorizes acquisition for
public rightway easement from the Jackson Township Board of Education for London Drive pursuant to NJSA4812-4A. This ordinance if adopted would authorize a tancher to obtain a public easement for a rightway purposes known as London Drive from the Jackson
Township Board of Education and the Jackson MUA. Currently the Jackson MUA has an access easement over this parcel from the board of education to their property. The same is being used as a public cut through as a public rightway uh easement can establish appropriate
traffic control over over to ensure the public's health, safety and welfare. Thank you sir. That's it. Madam clerk, are there any questions or comments by the township council? No, ma'am. I have a motion to approve ordinance
202521 on first reading and introduction to authorize the notice of the public hearing to be held on June 12th, 2025. Motion. Second. Councilman Blli, yes. Councilman Pal Mary, yes. Council Vice President Bernstein, yes. Council President Cume, yes.
Thank you. The next item of business is the payment and authorization of bills and claims. I would like to note the following abstensions. Councilman Barlli AE1, D1, EO2,
NJSO4, and STA28 and Council President Cune RCSO2. Are there any questions or comments by the township council? Uh, council president clerk Martin. Uh, Ee I'm sorry. Ee01 in instead of 02,
please. Thank you. Ee 01. Yeah. You good? Yeah. Okay. Good. All right. So, I just wanted to go into bills and claims. I've been looking over them and doing some due diligence in regards to spending. Um, so there was the community
passes is the one that I'm going through um this bill period. Last one we had was Civic Plus. So now that recreation is with DPW, I did speak with Mr. Bolinsky before the meeting because I didn't understand why we have $20,000 in bills
and programs that do the same thing. So he gave me an explanation that we signed the contract for Civic Plus in December of or November of 2024, but we've never used it. We've never actually wrote a check for it. That was never used it.
Um, so they've haven't even started it. They haven't even uploaded it. So we're hoping that happens. Um, but now I'm like, why do we have community pass if they do the same thing? Because they and essentially they they do everything. So community pass is outdated. So this is
the last payment. And it actually it it kind of pays for itself and and they did show me. I did meet with the CFO and they did show me. So, what I'd like to ask council if I don't know how we do this, but if we can reinstate the civic plus bill from last
month because this one once this community pass is no longer going to be used. They're going to move forward to civic plus. So, I don't know how that works, but I just think and then we should no longer have a community pass bill. They were waiting. They didn't want to with the season in the
recreation and summer camp starting, they didn't want to take them out then and cancel the program without having not nobody knew how to use the new system. The new system is updated. I Christian, I think you're working on it, right? Yes. So, it's going to start with your department of it and then it's
going to move over to recreation. Okay. That's what that's what Mr. Binsky had said. So, moving forward. So we're going if we can put them back on, get everything paid to date and then moving forward we can integrate and I believe the clerk's office is going to be looking into it as well. So I think a
couple departments so it will essentially pay for itself when we can have more than one user. So um I just wanted wanted to clarify that that we did look into that and let council know that that was the findings because I know they were kind enough to support me in tableabling it last uh meeting but I
want I don't want to halt anything. So do we have yes to the rest? Do we have a PO number for that for the the one that was held last month? Yeah, we do. Yeah, I would say do a separate motion on that since it's not on the agenda. Okay. Or on the current bill list and then we'll do a motion on that
PO. It's specific. I don't have it on me right now. I think a motion to pay it in accordance with the bill last month or last meeting would be I want to let the attorney put it on the record for me. Why don't we finish this vote first? I'm sorry. Yes. Everything. Okay. Thank you. That was the only
comment. May I have a motion to approve the bills list and claims um with the abstensions noted? So move second. Council member Belli. Yes. With uh those exemp abstensions that you have mentioned regarding uh my
bills vendors vendor numbers. Thank you. Councilman Palary. Yes. Council Vice President Bernstein. Yes. Council President Cune. Yes. Thank you. May I have a motion uh to approve the invoice number
325961 in the total amount of $8,77344 um for Civic Plus motion. Thank you. Second. Thank you, Madam Clerk. Council member, yes. Councilman Paul Mary, yes. Council Vice President Bernstein, yes.
Council President Keune, yes. Thank you. The next item on the agenda is the consent agenda listed for tonight's consideration are resolutions 183 through 193 2025 listed by title. Council President Kun, are there any comments on the consent agenda? No
ma'am. Are there any questions or comments by the township council? No ma'am. May I have a motion to authorize the consent agenda resolutions 183 through 193 2025? Motion. Second. Councilman uh Councilman Barlli. Yes.
Council Paul Mary. Yes. Council Vice President Bernstein. Yes. Council President Cume. Yes. At this time, if any member of the public has any comments to make, please address the council at the microphone and state your name and address clearly for the record. You'll have 5 minutes
and may only speak once. May I have a motion to open public comment? Motion. Second. All in favor? I. Any opposed? M Edward Kaufman again. Um I'm glad to hear discussions about code enforcement.
I've got a huge problem in code enforcement, namely Andrew Cheney, the head of code enforcement, James Rand, the animal control officer, Moren Van Bremer, an employee in animal control. I filed 28 criminal complaints against the
three of them. All of my Oprah with animal control were obstructed. I hear conversations again after the last meeting about emails being answered by constituents. None of mine were answered. I've come to understand there's about three dozen documents from
animal control that were kept from me. I still have not gotten them. I went so far as to take the ticket that they wrote me to municipal court only to have judge maybe on the record tell me that the constitution or argument I was arguing was insufficient for his court
because it was too small. In other words, my constitution stopped outside the doors of that courtroom. On the record, he told me that he couldn't entertain it. Animal control officer James Ran got on the stand and under my questioning purged himself. I spent a
lot of effort and time trying to get the records of the anonymous person that made a complaint about my animals that resulted in James Ran trespassing on my property, taking a photo of the back of my house only for me to end up getting it in an Oprah request, having him get
on the stand, deny any knowledge of it, and under questioning tell me that the complaint supposedly was anonymous. Upon further questioning, when I destroyed his his answer, he went
on to tell me that it possibly came in an email. I never got any email in my opera request. Andrew Cheney, James Ran, and his office targeted my house, wrote me summones in retaliation. I took it to
municipal court only to have a municipal court judge tell me that he could not entertain the constitution. And I want to know what exactly is wrong with this town and this state when a judge has the absolute g to tell you on the record that he cannot entertain the constitution because I'm pretty sure
that the supremacy clause mandates that he does. You have an animal control officer that willingly got on the stand purged himself. This town did nothing to any of my complaints. The mayor, the town council, the business administrator is
no longer here. Who controls the employees in this town that work for me and the rest of the people in this town? The administration. Who controls their behavior? Who investigates them? Administration. Well, then we have a a township that has nobody at the ship,
nobody at the helm. I don't understand how we're still operating. There's no means of bringing any employees in this town under control and made to heal and follow the law. Now, there are documents. I got one and again I said last time I was here I
don't think I was meant to get it but it's an email from Andrew Cheney telling the town attorney that he was in communication with the OC county prosecutor about the criminal complaints I made and last I heard that's illegal. He was having exparte communications with a prosecutor and he was telling
attorney thinking that he was going to shield that document from me by the attorney using attorney client privilege to keep them. I don't understand what it's going to take to get this township to operate within the the rules of the law. Taxpayer money is being funneled to
attorneys so that they can hide documents just like my reevaluation. Still haven't gotten any documents. I sued this town. We're in tax court now. You've been served. And I ask again, what is it going to take?
I don't understand how anybody can justify keeping documents that pertain to me, the reevaluation of my house, animal control officers that are writing summones to me in retaliation while I'm in court, while I'm appealing a case in
the appellet court. They think that it's amusing to send me a second summon. They're abusing the authority of their office. Andrew Cheney is rogue. He thinks he's answerable to no one. code enforcement. It's not code enforcement. It's Andrew Cheny's code.
And if you go against it, he weaponizes his office. He writes summones against the residents. And he laughs at you while he's doing it because he knows that a town attorney is going to keep the documents from you that you can use to prosecute them. But I'm not done. I'm going to get justice with Andrew Cheney
and animal control. At some point, I'm going to sue in superior court. I'm going to make this town give me those documents that show that he was hiding behind the attorney and keeping the documents from me while his animal control officer was getting on the stand and committing perjury. There should be some
standard right now. I don't see any because I send lawful legal OPER requests. I know the documents are there. I'm within the GRC right now with a docket complaint over the factory
revaluation records. Thank you, sir. Janice Carero, I have a question about the LLC's. I know you folks addressed what you plan on doing. Um, I actually had one next door to me that
you sold and thankfully it's a great couple that bought it. Um, thank God. I am so happy. I sat at the window all day watching who was going in. And where are you? Well, you don't have to tell me. I'm on uh Deer Creek Court. Oh, you sold the ranch prior. Yeah. Yeah. Is there a
criteria with the I mean, I used to be a renter back in the day. I was um, you know, a clean, neat freak. what we're seeing around town and you all are getting the phone calls about it. Um, is
isn't there a criteria for the LLC's before they rent to people? Because the stories that I'm reading and thank God they're gone next door to me because that house and you probably know the story. Uh, the guy didn't pay rent for
four years. I mean, you could get high sitting on my back deck. I know. I know. From him. It was in insane. He blew the fireplace out. I know that was his only source of heat. But I did do the walkthrough. Is there a um I have a
fireplace. I think if I was to sell, which I'm not, unless I'm forced out of here. Um I would imagine that my fireplace has to be in working order. You do have a fire inspection. Okay. Fire and smoke. that fireplace I did the
walkth through uh right before it was I don't know the open house day. Why is there just like it's like those pretend logs with a cord that's plugged in? I don't know cuz I saw that. I'm like how
the heck did this pass? I don't Are you asking me? Yeah. I mean you sold it. I mean I if it got a I got a CO so it had to pass the township. Is that legal is my question. If it's not working if it's not plugged in then yeah
the fireplace obviously as you know is was not working. Does wouldn't that have to be working in order to sell or you could sell? Not if it's not if it's not hooked up anymore. No township comes in a wood burning fireplace. So, if it's a
wood burning, well, the prior tenant, if you will, whoever he was that screwed the LLC and didn't pay for four years, he used that solely. He had wood delivered. I know cuz I live
next door um every other week. So, he never used the furnace. When you when you sell a house, you have to get a continued certificate of occupancy. That's when the township comes out. If the township approved it, which is your building department, then but that fireplace was not or if it's code enforcement. If it's a rental, it's code
enforcement. Code enforcement. I I can't tell you. I I don't go to the inspection, so I can tell you that I wasn't there, but I can tell you if it's your code enforcement for your continued certificate of documents. I guess the couple that's there now. Yeah. Yeah. And I went over and then they passed it and
they felt it was I I said, "Are you guys they're like the the fireplace is not working?" And I'm and like they should contact their landlord or you know they bought it. So now they're they're the new owner. What I'm saying is there's
like fake light up fire logs in there that they when they bought the house that was put in there. In my opinion, that fireplace should have been working when it was rehab. The opinion of the
township when they go out there and they do the inspection is what they recommend that you have to do as a homework when you sell your house. That's what you have to do. If they don't recommend it and they say it's fine, then I you know, there's nobody that can come in. Yeah. So, you have code enforcement if it's a rental and then you have the building department when it was with the building
department when it was a continued certificate of occupancy. So, if I were to sell my house, my to the fire department. Now, it my fireplace should work with wood. Let me jump in. Let me jump in. Um I'm not familiar with a code requirement
that a fireplace has to be in some particular working order in order to get a co. Um normally if someone's buying a house, they do a home inspection. They hire their own inspector. That inspector would and they just say, "Look, you could buy the house." They have two options. They can raise the issue and
the buyer can say, "Fix this. do get a a fire chimney person in here or they can say we'll take it as is and we'll pay this much less. So that's normally the way it's done, but I'm not familiar with a code provision that says the fireplace has to
be Thank you. able to burn wood and not have a fake light. As council president just reminded she believes that there's a chimney inspection requirement. So you would have to get that and if it passed it passed. Okay, that was my question. Thank you. Hello again, Donnie Adam, Willow Point
Drive, Jackson, New Jersey. Couple of things. I'd like to formally offer my condolences to the Sergeant family on the passing of Scott and also to the families of the people from the different accidents that have happened in town where people have unfortunately died. Um, it happens people, you know,
to be live with an area with deer and everything else. Can't do anything about it. Now, Cheney, as some of you, well, as you know, because I brought it up, I have a I have a mouse problem. Cheney won't respond to me. And m Miss Council
President, yes, I know you did reach out and you asked him to do it. Nothing's happened. Why is it that we're allowing somebody who's causing all these town problems for the town, causing all these lawsuits to continue working for the town? quite literally he has multiple
residents that well have needed code enforcement he won't even talk to him and this is allowed now we come to you and we ask for help and I'm not saying you guys aren't trying believe me I'm not you know let me clarify that you guys are doing your part and I can't ask
for you to do anything more than call him but if he does nothing about it and continues to do nothing about it why is he still working for us the man is a cancer on this town. That's number one. Number two, sir, could I respond to you for a second? Can you save it to the end
so I don't lose my time? Um, next, I did ask for a moral clause in regards to the police director because, as you know, um, I'm a First Amendment auditor. I was filming at Justice Complex and Director Candido didn't like it, so he
criminalized it after the fact. All right? He doesn't understand the Constitution. And I think it's absolutely disgusting and disrespectful that all of you because you all are culpable in this and those two over there that you're talking about the
freedoms and sacrifice and service. Meanwhile, you spit and you might as well just urinate on the graves of the soldiers when you do what you do. Come on. Please. No, it it is out of order. That's out of order. Please. They fought and sacrificed for I don't want to argue with you. I'm just asking. They fought and they sacrificed for the freedom of
press, freedom, freedom of speech, freedom to address their government. And when it's criminalized because he doesn't like it and his officers are caught breaking the law, shouldn't I shouldn't be receiving tickets in the mail. And when I ask for help, I should do that. I want some help having this
guy have his officers recall every one of those tickets because I didn't break the law. He just doesn't like people fill me. All right, let's I'm not I'm not No, no, no, no, no. Let's Let's call it out. We're not doing that. We're not doing that. We're not doing that. We're not doing that. But I would ask that I would
ask for the Mr. Excuse me. I'm not My time is still Republic can talk about anything. I would like to have the township administrator meet with me in regards to my outstanding issues. The substitute whatever the the whatever her name is, the the substitute administrator, the subadministrator,
whatever, meet with me over my problems. You're talking about Miss Novak. Uh, yeah. She's on vacation. Yeah. Cool. Awesome. Um, the other thing is, as weird as this Twilight Zone has week has been, you know, there's no loss between myself and Mayor Raina and I happened to
break down across the street from his house last weekend. I didn't realize it was him. And I do want to thank him on the record saying because I had recognized it was him. He didn't recognize it was me. But I was broken down on whatever that street is across from him. And he he came back. He came
and he asked, you know, can you help me? Is there anything you could do? Any phone? Unfortunately, it's a race car computer problems. Nothing he could do. Now, I'm sure he's very ugly part. I receive several letters in regards to my activity. I'd like to
receive the I'd like to read to the one that I received today anonymously, but I know it's from police officers whites because every time the police officers in this town have an issue, I end up having a sexual relationship with them. All right. Um, it
just All right. But here, Don Don Adelman, you're the one standing up to their corruption. The council doesn't do anything about it. The police director, Candida, was caught cheating on his girlfriend multiple times, and she put all over Facebook. Nobody will say anything. You know, the cops are
supposed to be an officer and gentleman and act better than anyone else. They have rules they have to follow, but not Candido. Don't. Sorry, not my It's just reading. Um, we have children in here. So, I know there's nothing in there. Uh, will they do anything or will they do
anything paying him 250,000 like nothing happened and rules don't apply to him and he's embarrassing the whole town. He needs an investigation. The council needs to do something about it, but they won't because they're all corrupt. Now, that's again, that's what I was sent. I get letters like this all the time and sometimes they're death threats and
everything like that, but whatever. Um, what Candido doesn't know is that he's been under surveillance for the better part of a year for his exes. And thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. How do I taste there, Joey?
That's disgusting. He would know. Stop. It's disgusting. Stop. Mr. We get a blue salt in here. We're going to keep this up. We have two in here. We have one. Sorry. Okay. Ready? Go ahead. Hope Drew
again. All right. So, I'm going to read this. Just say Jackson. Just uh Jackson. Thank you. I hate the microphone. Um just so I can get this on record, I guess. Uh and then hopefully you can answer some questions when I'm done. All right. So, just to get this out there, I
feel there's a lot of confusion. So, our LOPA does not override all local laws. Our LUPA protects religious land use from being substantially burdened, but it still allows towns to enforce neutrality and generally applicable
laws, zoning, occupancy, and safety. Our Lupa does not require towns to give special treatment to any group if it violates the rights of others. Jackson was not found guilty in the discrim uh discriminatory zoning for discriminatory
zoning. We settled on that lawsuit. That settlement led to the creation of a clear definition of assembly area to protect the religious rights and to ensure zoning fairness. The goal was balance and transparency, not to let people bypass the
process, many of which we have in place. What's happening is now is the opposite. Jackson is no longer accused of restricting religious use. Now it is allowing large religious assembly spaces like that of at 45 Pittney without
proper zoning review. No public hearing, no use variance, no planning board input, no certificate occupancy, no safety sign offs. That's not religious freedom. That's special treatment that hurts everyone else. The addition at 45 Pittney is not a typical home
alteration. The structure added to the back of 45 Pittney isn't a minor extension. It's a full-scale commercial style edition. It's basically a massive auditorium. It resembles the size of a small ride aid or a corner market, not
something you'd find in a residential home. It includes commercial style exit signs, multiple HVAC units, and clearly is built for high capacity group use. From the outside, it no longer functions or looks like a single family home. This
is a de facto zoning bypass. These properties are functioning as private synagogues or assembly halls in residential zones. Residents and neighbors are shut out of the entire process which violates the equal protection clause, part of the 14th amendment, the establishment clause, the
first amendment, and even a huge part of our loopa which prohibits harming others through unbalanced treatment. The township is admitting the problem but not fixing it. 45 Pittney illegally used
45 pitneys illegal use is creating traffic safety issues and neighborhood disruption and I want to say this on the record for years. It had a tent for years and now it has this monstrosity. Instead of shutting it down or forcing
zoning compliance, the town passes resolution R166-2025 to fix its side effect. The resolution includes striping sign uh signage uh radar signs speed tables. The
project will cost taxpayers and expected $17,500. Taxpayers are now going to be paying to manage a problem the town refuses to properly regulate. The resolution is a band-aid. It is not a solution.
R166-2025 does not fix the cause. It just papers over the symptoms. It's an expensive band-aid to avoid enforcing the laws. And it seems to message this certain it sends a message to certain people that don't follow the rules. So now I have my
questions. Before all of you approved or said yes to resolution 166-25, did you try to find out what was the cause for all the traffic? Mr. Blli or Mr. Paul Mary? Did either or any of
you I don't have an answer to your question at this time for R166. Okay. Do you know what R166 is? I would have to reference it again. I don't I don't have it in front of me. Okay. So, it's a bid to put out to a company to do
a traffic figure out the mess. So, what's causing the mess? You're talking about a 45 pitney. 45 Pney is causing the traffic mess. Right. So, we are looking we we had have we I did speak with traffic safety. I spoke with the engineer as well as Councilman Bernstein
and the engineers uh the recommended no parking from Danielle to um South Cooks Bridge as well as putting in calming stripes but doing them. I'm just answering your question. But my issue is
not it's the cause that's causing the traffic. We all know what's causing the traffic. If there was zoning enforcement, this is a blatant zoning violation. This house has no proper no approval to be operating, especially the intensity. You said it is. So, what are
we doing here? I can't believe I just lost all my time. I don't even have questions. Um, well, you you time your time, but Councilman's going to answer this one question and then next meeting you can come back, but maybe just go right to your questions. Yes. Go ahead. Add to Mr. Drew's um
point. um the engineers in the traffic safety um pointed out to us that most of the traffic that was coming to Pittney was actually coming because people were using it as a cut through from Hope Chapel because it's a war it's a mess over there. Um additionally, that's part of the reason why some of our our law enforcement officers actually advocated
against the board of ed decision because they didn't want Liberty becoming the main hub for high schools. So, a lot of the traffic that they that they calculated was based on the increased traffic from Hope Chapel just diverting. I've been cutting through there since 1990 through the 80s too. That's how I went to Okay. There's a lot more people
like you who are cutting through. Well, no. It's there's a house that's bringing in 30, 40, 50 cars. Are we denying that? I mean, it's every single day. Every single day. It's on the weekends from Friday to Sunday. You cannot continue deny these massive additions. Why was that addition approved on the back of
that house? No one applied for a change of use for it. There is no application to have allowed it to not only be built because it's not at all even residential. And look, it's a commercial operation that is violating the rights of every single resident. And not only
what you did is that if you had forced them to apply for the change of use, this finance that you're putting on the taxpayers would have been their cost to carry. You literally just put yourself in aiding the advancement of what's going on here. You're entangled yourself
by financially paying for that. You're making the changes. Listen, they would have had to pay for the traffic study. They would had to put all those things in place. Not us, not Jackson Township that they're doing it illegally so they don't have to foot the bill to follow the
legal process. I got it. I got it. It's a zoning issue. And this is not the only address. I'm not going to come up here and give the slew of them. But Gail Chambers is around the block. It's a mirror image. It's what's happening. Are you going to close down Cooksbridge Road? They can't park there. You're going to close down Gail Chambers, they can't park there. how many streets
you're gonna close down that cars can't park on because you don't want to address the issue at the over in 12 minutes and nobody else is going to be able to smoke. Thank you so much though. I appreciate it. Thank you. And one thing, stop telling people when they call that they're um someone calls
and said, "Oh, the house is being used illegally." And they're being told that as long as someone lives there, they can use it in any way they want. They cannot. Intensity use is not made up in Jersey, Jackson. Intensity use is the law of United States of America and you
cannot just use a house any way you want. Thank you. So, I'm just letting you know we have we're going to be able to have get two more speakers and the meeting is, you know, is concluded at 9:00. So, is that on the books that the meeting ends at 9:00, isn't it? That's
what I've always been told. Never heard of that. Okay, go ahead. Eller Hannah, Jackson, New Jersey. First and foremost, unless you uh specify that our meetings end at 9:00, you cannot end them at 9:00. I just said I did. Excuse me. You are talking over me. It is my time. Um
I'm just going to add to what Hope just said regarding these um houses of worship, illegal use, daycare centers that this township is actually aiding and abetting instead of upholding the law. So the discrimination that is going
on with your consent order that you decided to settle um you have now taken it perversed it and twisted around and now people like me are being discriminated against because I can't do whatever I want and turn my entire house
into a assembly. Uh but you know got to make sure that you keep the institutional investors happy. Um I also would like to address the fact that over requests over requests um it seems as
though there's a problem. I think you know we never had this issue before. Um every single OPER request is coming back based that uh due to staffing shortages uh we need an extra 10 business days which is another two weeks. So
essentially, you're pushing um almost a month or the fact that an over request is going to be denied because you're being told that well I can't talk about it because it's in litigation. Numerous times did I ask well I over requested
the Pinelands letter and I was told at these council meetings that well you can't have it because it's in litigation. Well, I was in contact with the Highlands Commission and that was a lie because they were never in
litigation and that was back in uh the fall. I'd also like to talk about or address the fact that we still don't have a business administrator. From what I understand, there's been many applica
applicants, some of which are supposed to be decent, and there's still no appointments. the fact that the township budget still has not been approved and that has been ongoing I don't know since January
[Music] um and to go back to the OPER requests because now we have what three people working in the clerk's office. Well, it's interesting because I counted how many oper requests for
April? 129. so far May 91. So I guess that's too burdensome, especially the fact that the staffing shortages were induced by people sitting up here. Um so I decided
to call other townships Howell so far this year, 1150, Freehold only 50 and she explained that and Bricktown 857. So clearly Jackson seems to have a
problem producing or fulfilling uh oper requests because these other towns seem to have a lot more houses of worship that are being illegally used in a residential home that Miss Drew just brought up. So we
have some that were just approved but they're still operating on a residential co. So they're not supposed to be operating with such use until they have accommodated all the requirements under
the use and they're not. And this township I am watching create biased ordinances windows. Go figure, Pittney windows. Go figure, Gail Chambers. These are all intentional
houses of worship and they are lying. The same way I was lied to about the Pineland's letter because it was in litigation. So, I don't know how much lying is going on. It's really difficult to um actually trust that anything is being
said is truth, especially the fact that we have the open space trust fund. I didn't realize that my money that taxpayers voted to take to give to purchase open space can be used for
Kier's uh grant writing or can be used to patch up mistakes that were made or can be used for landscaping. The amount of money over $2 million in
less than two years has been raped out of this this open uh open space trust fund. Thank you. And I agree with you with the trust fund. You used it for your pickle. You used it
for your pickle. No, I didn't. You weren't listening two meetings ago. You obviously don't listen. So that's inaccurate information. Ma'am, you have a great night. Mil Pond Road, Jackson. I'm sorry, what was your name? Joe Kovski. I have a question about um
2025-9. This is like the only open mining in Jackson is Clayton's Pit, which everyone knows. And that was sold to the federal government in 2009. So, the feds owned it. So, it's way more than 400 acres. So, I'm curious if does this put them out of business because it says maximum 400 acres.
I don't know. You can answer first reading, you know. Yeah, it's first reading, but still we're going to I'll look into it and get back to your question. Okay. So, um how about one uh this one here
186-225? Um is this basically because the we don't have a budget that's been passed yet? That's why this was written so they can mail out the tax bills that aren't completely accurate. Correct. They wouldn't know. Right. Correct. So right now it's $1.40 per hundred of assessed
value. So what that was asked by for the tax collector to get them out. We're hoping to get the budget as I had said earlier. I don't know if you were here. We're going to have the CFO at the next meeting. But the main thing is how much can this $140 go up? That's my I we can't answer that. That's not Yeah. But is there a is there a limit or can it
just go up to $3 or you know we're hoping it stays at a$140? So there's no limit. We're hoping it stays at a $140. That's not what I said. There's no limit. I can't hear you. I know you're what you're hoping for and what reality is. I can't answer you. I was just saying I know, but it can go up as much as it I have. I can't answer you. We
would have to ask Mr. Mer that when we get that. How about the lawyer? He's sitting right there. He's not the tax collector. He wouldn't wouldn't know. I'm sorry. I don't know. I don't didn't understand the question. Could you say it again? Right now, the tax rate is $140 per hundred of assessed value, right? And the budget hasn't been passed
yet. Right. So that's why this has been written this the uh 186-2025. My concern is the $140 can go up to what is there a limit? Does anybody know like to pass to be able to pass the budget? So there's different cap laws depending what's inside a cap, what's outside of
cap. Yeah. And I would assume that there could be a tax increase, may not be any tax increase. There hasn't been one for a few years. So all that is an estimated tax bill. Um, and once the budget is struck, that tax bill is adjusted in the third and fourth quarters, right? Just like in every other municipality, right?
I just want to add, do you know that our taxes, our local taxes have not been raised in 17 years? The local taxes 17 years. 17 years. How are we even not like how are we This is from the CFO. I met with her today. Okay. So, I also
have a about the fireplaces. This is like public service announcement. very critical to get it inspected because the chimney fires occur. I get mine inspected. That's what I said. So, there was a house 22 Alana Drive which was doing illegal construction. This was a couple years ago. They had no power in
the house. So, they were using the fireplace to heat the house and do the work. So, I reported it to the building department. Nothing happened. Then the place went on fire and it's on a culde-sac. So, that could have been really bad. But that's history. So, you know, thank you. That's just for them,
you know. And then um the uh restitution fund. I thought it was for the um the New Jersey attorney general's lawsuit that was against Jackson. There was $150,000 restitution fund. There's two There's two different ones. One for the federal, one for the state. Okay. So,
this one was December 31st of 2024 was the deadline to fill out an application to receive some of that restitution. And I believe there was an extension that granted for a few months. I didn't see that. It should be done by now. Has any of it been distributed? I Mr. Palman
might know that answer. I'm sorry. I don't know. Okay. Um but my understand Justice Department has pretty much finished with what they were going to do. My understanding is that it's pretty much done. Okay. I'm just curious who got the money. You know, that's all. Me,
too. And then we have uh the illegal use in my neighborhood. 84 Mil Pond has been running for about four years. So you have tour buses that drop off 40 to 50 people. School buses. I had videos. I went to zoning. I think it's over four
years already and it's still operating. Still going. So you know took it to the zoning. Oh, we don't want to see the videos. We don't care. We don't want to, you know. So that's what you're what you're dealing with in this town. Thank you. Wait, sir. I just have a question.
Um, your last name you said is Crack Krakovich. Krakos is it K R A K O V S K Y correct so I was so um speaking of tax collector Mr. Maher came to me today and I think the clerk was there because
you've never come up and spoke that I I recall maybe you did but I don't have and you were asking you emailed him asking why I was driving in car 928 of the township vehicle. Yeah, I never was. Oh, somebody said they saw you so I just asked them. I Why would I be in a
township vehicle driving around? I don't know. That's why I asked him. Oh, why didn't you just ask me? Cuz I wanted He's Why would you ask Peter? His car, right? Tax sensor's vehicle. Oh, I That was like the craziest thing. And I was
asking. He was like, I mean, I said forward the email to me because I would have responded to, but no, I was not driving around at 10:40 a.m. in Mr. Mar's car. I didn't give any time so I don't It was in your email. I the email was sent at 10:40 a.m. So that's why Oh, that's when I Yeah, but that wasn't when
I saw it. But no, I wasn't. So, I just wanted to answer that directly to you. No problem. Thank you. Thank you. You're welcome. Charles Martins Jackson. Um, based on everything I heard today, I have a lot of ugly stuff on my list, but I'm going to respect my mom who said
goes do good, bad, then ugly. So, I'm probably not going to get to the ugly, which is okay. We can take up another day. Um, I did want to say a word about Councilman Sergeant. So, I actually never spoke to Councilman Sergeant. I've never met him um personally, but I have
come up here a few times lately and um every time he was there and I'd get um immediate feedback from his face expressions. Uh many times a smile. Um sometimes a look like, "Dude,
you don't know what you're talking about." But that was all good. It was all good. And um even though I never met him, I know I'm gonna miss him from not being in that chair. So um I just wanted to put that out there, bring down the
temperature a little bit, but I had that on the list anyway. I was going to say anyway. So um thank you for the opportunity for saying that. You know, some people just have an aura around them and even though you don't meet them, you're just in their presence, you feel safe, you feel good. And um
obviously it's very um nerve-wracking coming up here uh if you especially if you don't have any um experience public speaking. Um and he always made me feel good and uh safe. So thank you. Um all
right, other things. Um no, I said it already, but I like to put it on the record. The uh our new township clerk, whose last name is Martin. I'm Martins's. No relationship. Okay. No relationship. Um but she is
awesome. Um I had a question around the uh open air trust fund and how it worked and how the the the website worked right the code. We get that question a lot and I learned tremendous amount. Anybody else wants to uh I'll be happy to teach
them as well. It it's actually pretty good. I got to tell you it's up to date as of 2024. It's got that section for the new stuff which is 2025. That's pretty good. I was based on your comments that hey, yours is not updated. I was expecting like six years worth of stuff that was missing. But
anyway, um so like I said, I'm going to go with the good first. I'm not going to get to the bad, but that's okay. Um so that was one. And then okay, a little bit. Um so you said the the next meeting
the CFO and who else was going to be here? Hopefully the auditor is our audit. Great auditor. Love auditor. That's for a Q&A for council though. It's not I don't get a chance to uh interrogate the auditor. Follow him into the hallway. Yeah. Okay. I'm an ex
auditor, by the way. So that's why. Um Okay. Give me just a second. Oh. All right. Uh I'm an opportunity basher. So it's coming. I'm going to bash you a little
bit. Me? Yeah. What the heck? Join the join the club. Just more for the part from whatever else is happening, right? Um so before when I was asking the question about what the date was for the Pineland meeting. Yeah. My real question was how do I find out about the date? I
get it. We don't know the date. I know. So how do I stay informed so somebody tells me when it is so I can go? That was the question. Yeah. The Pineel Commands Commission advertises their meetings just like the township does for their own. So if you go on the Pinelands website, it'll have the date of their
next meeting. Okay. New Jersey Pineelands Commission, right? Find their website and it'll have their meetings as to when I could probably sign up for something and get an alert that it's coming and all that. I don't know if that by the way, right? We're not that efficient, but anyway, that was my
question. I knew I knew it was but he was saying June, July, August. I get it. I get it. We don't know the date. Um I think I'm cut I'm done. How much time I got? 45. See? Shoot. Um okay. Oh,
and um so what we're doing now where kind of like we're highlighting what we're talking about and stuff. That's awesome for us to follow. I I think it was because of a comment that that um someone made before, but um yeah, because I know I you know, I'm confused
and now anyway, I'm getting old, so that's probably why I was confused. Um okay, thank you, sir. Yep. No problem. Have a good night. Heyman, 31 Adelfi Drive. I just wanted to comment on the passing of Councilman Sergeant. First, my sincere condolences
to the Sergeant family. Scott was a true public servant. He personified what it means to serve. A Navy veteran, a former Jackson DPW worker, former board of ed member, and a councilman. He lived his life to do good for others. Every time
we met, he would ask me how I'm doing and making sure everything was good. He never shied for voicing his opinions, for good or for bad. But even greater is he knew when to remain silent when nothing needed to be said. He'll be sorely missed by everyone in Jackson.
Have a good evening. Thank you, sir. President. Yes, if I may. Um sir, I did check the website as I'm sitting here on my phone. The Pine Lands Commission next meets next meets on June 13th. Their next meeting after that is July 11th and
the one after that is August 8th. and they post their agenda um shortly before the very shortly before the meeting. Okay. All right. Thank you. Hello, Amanda from Betta. I promised my kids my question would be the shortest question. So, I just want to know what
is the status of hiring a business administrator. So, if you could just say Jackson or where I met Jackson, New Jersey. Oh, I didn't hear you. I didn't hear you. Um Um, the applications are coming in and we're reviewing them. Go ahead, council. If I could just add that also that there
were a couple applications that initially were given in that really did not meet what I think the residents would have liked and someone who would actually be on top of engaged in the department. So, council initially were not happy with them. The mayor sent a couple more recently. The mayor has been away for about a couple days already.
We're waiting for him to be back. There was email sent asking for a meeting sit down making sure we were aligned what we're looking for and he hasn't responded. Three emails. I didn't hear your last there were emails that we asked the mayor to sit down and have a meeting to discuss go over some of the candidates and the mayor hasn't responded responded. So when he gets
back you're we're hoping he's coming back if he agrees to a meeting. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Seeing no one else come forward make a motion to close public comment. Motion. All in favor? Any opposed? None. Motion
close. Motion to close. Second. All in favor? I. Any opposed? Have a good night. Thank you. Next. Yeah, that's