y please stand for the pledge of of Allegiance I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic which stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all
good evening and welcome to the February 27th regular meeting of the Jackson Township Council this meeting will now come to order pursuant to the provision of the New Jersey's open public meeting act adequate notice this meeting was prly provided by transmitting a notice of the meeting on January 28 2025 for
publication notice of this meeting the township Council has been Post in the fordor of the municipal building and in the office of the municipal clerk we will begin with a wrong call councilman belli here councilman Paul Mary pres councilman Sergeant pres Council
vice president Bernstein here council president K here also present this evening is Township attorney Mr mcgucken here administrator wall and myself Township uh clerk Martin council
president thank you madam clerk um first I would like to uh i' would ask for a motion to change the public uh speaking time from 5 minutes to three minutes as we do have eight ordinances on the agenda and we would allow um like to allow everyone to have a time to come up
and speak uh I'm gonna ask for a motion motion second councilman belli yes councilman Paul Mary yes councilman Sergeant yes Council vice president bernin yes and just one question is just for tonight I was just going to say this is just for
tonight we have eight ordinances on for first for reading tonight so it's going to take a bit of time council president yes thank you next on the agenda is our small business recognition council president Q thank you um first I would like to ask our
councilman to say a couple words we are honoring Innovative martial arts tonight after the councilman speaks if you could all come up forward so we could take a picture and I can present you with your uh plaque thank you council president of course so tonight we are proud to recognize innovate martial arts as
Jackson Township's small business highlight for January 2025 owned and operated by senior master Turner and his wife Mrs Turner innovate martial arts has been a pillar of our community for the past eight years Beyond offering top tier martial
arts training they provide after school care a summer camp program and give back through holiday food drives demonstrating their commitment to both their students and the Jackson Community a special acknowledgement also goes to Mrs malvino
the general manager whose leadership and dedication help ensure that innovate martial arts continues to thrive along with their incredible staff they create a welcoming and supportive environment that empowers students and families
alike it is this dedication to Excellence service and community that makes innovate martial arts truly deserving of this honor congratulations to senior master Turner Mrs Turner Mrs malvino and the entire innovate martial
arts team on this well-earned recognition congratulations congratulations to Innovative martial arts if you could please come up and accept your plaque on behalf of the council for being the small business of the month for January 2025
conratulations [Applause] good Madam clerk thank you we will continue with open comments from the township Council starting with
council president C thank you madam clerk you can't hear Madam clerk can you just make sure that the red light is on it is thank you okay can you hear her now sir can you hear me okay I'll
continue then as many of you know the council has taken a proactive approach to working with our Administration particularly regarding the 2025 and 2026 budget we are thoroughly reviewing our finances and ensuring responsible matter man agement of our taxpayer dollars
department heads have been asking to provide detailed breakdowns of staff salaries and daily operations allowing us to identify areas for cost saving and better resources allocations we are assessing whether some departments are overstaffed While others are
underresourced all with the goal of maximizing efficiency for the Jackson Township residents our priority is to ensure every tax dollar is spent wisely beyond the budget we're also reviewing ordinances many of which have been haven't been updated since 1960s it's
time to modernize than to reflect today's Jackson Township government moves slowly and change isn't always popular but progress requires action when people are talking whether in support or opposition it means something is being done I'd rather face criticism
than allow stagnation I'll take my role I take my role seriously and while I know not everyone will agree with every decision I welcome engagement constructive feedback is invaluable and I encourage meaningful discussions over mere
criticism one issue we are addressing in ordinance enforce is ordinance enforcement passing laws without enforcing them is unacceptable recently a department admitted they were not enforcing the landlord registration ordinance adopted on February 27th 20124
no request for an extension no explanation Just In Action that is not accept able if ordinances are on the books they must be upheld and we will strongly request the administration to hold the Departments accountable additionally we are working with Administration to ensure employees
fulfill their daily responsibilities I will be going through the Jackson Township employee handbook that's right here that I've already outlined and I've read half of it already which is 78 Pages residents deserve results from the public servants they fund we are cutting
unnecessary spending and implementing over site measures to ensure every dollar is used efficiently the level of scrutiny is new for our Administration we are making steady progress regarding concerns raised on Fakebook and through emails I appreciate those engaging
constructively while criticism is easily real change requires participation we may not always agree but meaningful discussion leads to a better solution in closing my comments remain to serve this community with integrity and purpose change isn't always easy but is
necessary for Progress let's continue working together to make Jackson a Township an even better place to live and work thank you now on to my next point of business for tonight's meeting our police department at the as the appointed Le on to the Jackson Township Police
Department I take my role seriously in maintaining communication between the council and the department ensuring the needs of our officers are met and their mission to protect and serve the community is supported this responsibility is crucial by our Township's well-being as outlined by Statute after a year ago this Council
approved the creation of a position of the public safety director a decision that had strong support for the men and women of the Jackson Police Department the position was allegedly necessary due to concerns raised by nearly two decades of leadership under the chief Coons
which some believe may have hinged the department efficiency and internal coion prior to the establishment of the position we were informed by officers of all ranks about ongoing disarray within the department allegedly there has been no staff meeting since August of 2015
and chief Coons reportedly failed to attend or engage in any efforts to improve communication within the department additionally there are Alle allegations that Chief did not adequately address critical Staffing shortage including unfulfilled Patrol
and supervis positions some have questioned his decision-making regarding Staffing changes such as the uh reassignment of personnel from specialized roles like Traffic Safety sergeants without apparently justifying uh with leadership there are also claims
that the chief showed little interest in hiring additional officers a process that has largely been driven by director candido the administration and the council perhaps most certainly it has been alleged that Chief Coons did not take steps to secure funding for
necessary bulletproof vests for the officers leaving them vulnerable it has been reported that many officers continue to wear expired vests thankfully under director candido's leadership new vests are now being procured and efforts are being made to address this issue under director
candido's leadership Jackson uh police department has reportedly seen improvements in budgeting addressing inefficiencies and that some alleged were left by the previous leadership this includes securing funding for the special resource response team and K9
programs as well as addressing the unbudgeted liabilities director Kido is also working to modernize outdated department policies such as one legl that have not been updated in decades as a council we are grateful for director candido's efforts and look forward to continuing progress he will continue to
bring to our Jackson Police Department we are committing to moving forward addressing the challenges posted by past leadership and ensuring that Jackson PD is fully equipped and supported to serve our community efficiently thank you and have a great night Council vice president Bern thank you
clerk Martin um I just wanted to clarify really as one thing that was brought up at the last meeting when the council president discussed um some of the ongoing Audits and um looking over some of our departments we are working very well together with mayor Rena and entire Council and looking into some of our
departments one of the things that came up was and I have the pleasure of sitting as the leas on to the planning board is that people are continuously coming to our some of our meetings and complaining about lack of enforcement like the council president just said we have one of the largest departments in town in in the in the area when it comes
to code Code Enforcement so as as the council president said last time what we're looking to do is to find out how we can more efficiently use our departments making sure that the residents are getting the results which are important to them and a is it a staffing issue B is do we have enough
men and women on the streets do we have too many men and women on the streets is there an overlap if is it a management issue um are they getting complaints in an efficient way um we got one complaint this week about landlord registration I was copied on the email on a property that doesn't have a structure on the
property which doesn't require landlord so that would just be a waste of of proper um Township resources for to send people out and then we got another complaint this week about three officers showing up to for one complaint so all these definitely require proper oversight and we're happy to be working together with Administration to figure
out how we can best use our tax dollars thank you and have a good night C belli thank you clerk Martin uh thank you to councilman Paul maray for uh your initiative of meeting with Jackson businesses like innovate Marshall Arts looking forward to recognizing celebrating the businesses and highlighting their contributions to
our town like we did tonight with innovate also I plan on wholeheartedly standing with the Jackson School Board of Education and voting for resolution 11322 which is on tonight's agenda in support of our school district suing the state of New Jersey we have literally
short changed our Town's public school kids for years in addition to property taxes and overd development concerns it's the biggest issue facing our town like the affordable housing mandates and other ridiculous mandates imposed on towns like ARS coming out of Trenton not all
municipalities though the S2 school funding formula has been anything but fair to Jackson's public schools to the point where schools are closing it's unheard of we get way more less from Trenton than what we pay to them in taxes it's despicable the school funding formula should be equal across the board
in our state it would only change when we have a governor and a state legislature willing to make the change and do the right thing for every student in New Jersey regardless of zip code and political allegiance in closing I appreciate council's efforts to make our your local government more efficient and
fiscally accountable for all our residents here in Jackson take care and have a good evening you councilman Paul Mary so I would just like to add to what we saw this evening a little earlier today with the small business highlight that was one small business we really
had the opportunity to highlight and recognize this evening but I go into many throughout the month and I get to speak to those business owners and their staff and I just kind of make them feel that uh this council is here to support them however we can in terms of what we
could do as a municipality so Jackson small business is strong um I think that this initiative that is Council supported is going to be very positive this year I'm looking forward to continuously bringing new small businesses every month here so we can recognize them and uh you know listen
Jackson small business is thriving and it you're going to see that every month and I'm speaking to a lot of folks and it's just really great positive feedback so I'm looking forward to continuing that initiative thank you councilman Sergeant good evening um I'd like to
congratulate Innovative martial arts um for a job well done and I'll wave the rest of my comments for this evening we will continue with the second public hearing of the Community Development block grant in accordance with the guidelines set forth the township is required to hold a public
hearing for the purpose of soliciting ideas that the community would like to see presented to the Ocean County Community block grant program for calendar year 2025 after remarks by council president cun if any member of the public has a comment to make please address the council at the microphone
and state your name and address clearly for the record you'll have three minutes and may only speak once council president C thank you madam clerk this is a annual uh grant that we get once we actually get the funds um the engineering department will ask for
residents input as to where to allocate the money um to for ADA compliance thank you may I have a motion to open public comment motion second all in favor I I any opposed motion approved you come up if seeing
seeing okay sure seeing no one come forward make a motion to close public comment second all in favor I any opposed no approve thank you sorry I can't run but
you know you're talking about the community block grant yes can you recall your motion under Robert's Rule so this way we could do this right it's it's okay it's no problem if you would have waved your hand I would have said yes sorry that's okay you have three minutes you missed the beginning I'm just I was you got it okay listen to in the car go
ahead real simple don't need three minutes just like last time you're looking for ideas that you know and things to apply this money to dog park putting in uh proper drainage putting in Ada accessible Hardscape so this way somebody in a wheelchair could access
the park on both sides basically in the entrance area because there's a little there's the double fences you know when you walk into the park and then maybe a path a Hardscape path to wherever the first bench is going to end up located being located they move it around from time to time that's why I say you know
whatever but if you put a concrete pad in and lights um I understand that the intent of this blck rant is to improve the livelihood of the town and the community especially towards uh the lower income residents everybody uses
the park so can't really say anything socioeconomically but I can certainly say that people with less money have a tendency want to do cheaper things people who are disabled have a tendency to have less money so we can go there I haven't heard or seen too many
other uh options or anybody calling for anything so I hope that some of the money could be applied towards that um you know certainly it's been made very clear how the Town Council feels about applying it towards the affordable housing portion of the community block
rant making the affordable housing in the community better so if that can't be the case let's apply the little bit that we are that we could all agree upon making the dog park more accessible and that's it thank you sir I'll afford your request thanks have a good night we'll
see you again thank you the next item of business is first readings and introduction of ordinance 07 and 08 2025 council president cun are there any comments on ordinance 07 2025 yes Madam clerk um if adopted would
regulate the park parking of vehicles on certain Township roads particularly certain roads with uh conclusion of col toxs this is in neighborhoods where they have the around islands in the middle that have grass growing DPW cannot cut the grass cars are parking on there you
can still park in front of your home 100% you just cannot park on those Center islands that are allocated in the ordinance uh because CPW cannot do their job so um we were the our Police Department was writing tickets on this and it was getting rejected from the uh
the judge because there was not streets uh Township streets attached to it so we had to update that so it's being presented now so again if you're if you live on one of these streets and you have an island in the middle you cannot park on it you will get a ticket thank you ordinance 07 2025 of
the Jackson uh Township of Jackson County of ocean state of New Jersey amending chapter 10345 5 schedule one entitled no parking to add additional streets where parking shall be prohibited are there any questions or comments by the township
Council may I have a motion to approve ordinance 07 2025 on first reading an introduction to authorize the notice of approval and the public hearing to be held on March 11 2025 motion second councilman belli yes councilman Paul Mar
yes councilman Sergeant yes Council president Bernstein yes council president cun yes thank you the next item of business is first reading and introduction of ordinance 08 2025 council president cun are there any comments on ordinance 08 2025 yes this
ordinance if adopted would require developers who post escrow to cover the professional fees incurred by the planning and zoning board for reviewing their application to the responsibility of any changes rather than forcing the tax it on the taxpayers to pay currently Township employees are responsible to
view such changes um and the entire Township if this ordinance is adopted the developer who posted These funds shall be responsible for the review of professional fee charged to the escrow account since they are the best positioned to determine
same thank you ordinance 08 2025 amending and supplementing chapter 101 of the Township Code entitled claims and approvals and to add section 109 entitled procedure for payment of Planning and Zoning Board W professional fees are there any questions or comments
by the township Council I have a motion to introduce ordinance 08225 on first reading and introduction to or to authorize the notice of approval and the public hearing to be held on March 11 2025 motion second councilman burelli yes
councilman Paul Mary yes councilman Sergeant yes Council vice president Bernstein yes council president cun yes the next item of business is second reading and public hearing for ordinance 01225 entitled an ordinance of the
township of Jackson County of ocean state of New Jersey amending and supplementing chapter 244 of the Township Code of the township of Jackson entitled land use and development regulations as to amend 2441 164 entitled Property Maintenance this ordinance was
introduced on February 11th 2025 if any of the members of the public has a comment to make please address the council at the microphone and state your name and address clearly for the record you will have three minutes and may only speak once may I have a motion to open
public hearing motion second all in favor I any opposed nope thank you hello again D 206 will Point um I tried looking for this thing before is there any way because maybe there's a problem
with the website earlier but is there any way to get like the actual statute that's being created red so that this way we know exactly what it is that we're I guess rallying for or against like the changes that are being changed yeah whatever like whatever it
is that you guys it's the Fe this is oh it's just fees it's the fees yes oh all right I'm sorry okay uh that's it you're welcome David buscone Whitesville Road Jackson Township Township
employee speaking as a private taxpaying citizen I'm not speaking on behalf of Code Enforcement the three minute time limit is ridiculous short period of time all it does is stifle public comment for your
convenience if you wasting your you want to put in the time then leave okay um regarding this amendment as I said before the reduction in in uh fines is
ridiculously uh a ridiculous concept it deters compl liance it does not encourage it regarding some of your comments earlier today um you you're uh very this is on this ordinance only sir I have to
stop you I apologize yeah it's on this ordinance only yes you're good at that okay all right um that's all I have thank you thank you sir have a great night see you again Elanor hannam Jackson New Jersey I just want to speak out against this
ordinance because quite frankly in my view and opinion this is being done for developers uh speculators Morty's friends that contributed to the pack his United Ocean County pack that have
numerous land use and um rental properties so um to reduce it from ,000 to whatever it is that you're reducing it to when you have Freehold
has their fine is $22,000 Andor prison Howell is $22,000 Endor prison Tom's River suggests the njsa uh statute which suggests $1,250 so for this board to be
completely destroying the quality of life because just like the applicant on on Monday for 780 yes keep looking at the the the clock 780 heis wrote after
Mr B Bernstein here was seen leaving a room with the applicant prior to that meeting that's not true yes it is not true excuse me do not use my time that applicant after it was
approved completely violated the ordinance the very next day not once but twice and you're going to give them this tiny little fine that is not compliant with the rest of the state of New Jersey so you're doing it for your developer
friends because that's exactly what this 244 168 is for it is for development and the fact that these applicants are not going to do their site plans like I'm watching right now or they're we're not talking about applications here we're talking about
ma' I am talking about what I see in this town the illegal use of residential homes that now they're going to we talking about an ordinance we're not talking they are going to have a very you are ma'am you're out of order ma'am you are now violating my first you're
not talking about what's in front of us excuse me are we putting more time on I'm talking about how this is going to affect this town that is what I'm talking about out I am talking about illegal use and this is reducing that fine you are destroying
this town have a great night ma'am I'll See You [Music] Again hi R AI Mahmud 46 Meadowwood
Road um 780 heiston Road you personally Jen cun said that you would keep an eye out don't interrupt me you already cut the time from five minutes this is about an ordinance ma'am exactly don't interrupt
me you're taking my time so ma'am I'm sorry I'm Excuse me I am I'm I am going to speak because this a is regarding this is a record that is being created on a hearing of a public ordinance you will have an opportunity later in the meeting to speak about any other issue
you like would like but at this time this hearing is upon only the ordinance the comments must be directed to the ordinance to this ordinance this is regarding the ordinance you need to stop cutting my speech ma'am you're not speaking about the ordinance you wish to
speak to the or speak to the ordinance ma'am that's all this is regarding the ordinance and if you would stop interrupting me you would follow my train of train of thought here don't interrupt me because when you all speak up here if you coulde continue speaking
and I wait for you to finish speaking so beginning the timer that was already cut from five minutes to three minutes ra AI Mahmud 486 Meadowwood road so last meeting you said you would keep an eye out on heisen 780 heisen we've had five
accidents and now the the code let me speak the code that you're putting in place revising whatever it is you're revising is going to enable further illegal use of a home it's a renter it's
a rental this is Property Management ordinance ma'am we are not we're not talking about 780 heison Road I am because but that's not applicable to what to reduce the violations from a certain amount to another certain am for
grass for property go ahead please tell me what is applicable towards this ordinance that you have to say I I would love to hear it the violations that you're reducing from $1,000 to $100 and why did you reduce the time
from five minutes to three minutes so by reducing the violations from $1,000 to $100 you were further enabling illegal use of structures this property has been functioning illegally for years causing
Mayhem and Chaos this has nothing to do with illegal house houses it has nothing to do with that so I'm going to answer just because everybody seems to come reducing violations why why are we reducing violations what we are doing we are in
the process of adding it so that code enforcement can everybody hear me that code enforcement will now be able to ticket the tenant okay that's what we're doing this is phase one so you're reducing violations so code enforcement who's paying a $1,000 violation the
judge is not ordering anybody to pay a $1,000 violation and these landlords aren't showing up to court let's honest so if we can go ahead get through with this and then next meeting add for the tenants to be responsible so they're not out rting tickets for people that are not going to show up do you want the
people to cut their grass okay I get it do you want people to keep their property maintained go after the tenant I'm a landlord I have a rental property my tenant is responsible to keep up with the property I can't go there I can't just walk you guys don't understand you can't just walk on these tenants property they have more rights than you
do as a landlord you can't just go and open up the door and say how many people here you can't do that it's not the way it works so what we've been doing is no I'll give you another minute so what we've been doing is we've been reaching out to other towns to find out how they're getting through the trials and
tribulations of a rapidly growing rental situation I sat with our code enforcement I asked them how many rentals we have they said anywhere between 6,000 and 8,000 how does Code Enforcement not know how many rentals we have how do they not know why do we have
code enforcement going through re deep to somebody's house walking in their garage okay code enforcement on grass that's not the issue I understand your guys issue this is not taken care of it but if we can go and we can make the tenants responsible for the acts that
they're doing while their landlord does not live in that house and probably doesn't know what's going on do I think it's right no but I think that we need to hold the tenant responsible because they're the one that are causing these infractions am I correct yes I don't agree you don't so
okay ma'am thank you let's give her 30 seconds on the clock since I did take 30 seconds 30 seconds I want Fair 30 seconds ma'am quality thank you ma'am have a great night I'll see you again Deb Jones heis Road um I just want to ask on this property
maintenance I understand you keep talking about grass and everything else but on this property maintenance are you also including when the grass is totally removed and parking lots are put up which is flooding their neighbors when all the runoff is coming is that going
to be covered in here or is there going to be more of a fine for that if if somebody removes their grass we can't say whether somebody wants to have grass or not have grass no but you can say something if a lawn then becomes a parking lot which then the property
maintenance isn't right now there is no ordinance against parking in front of your house if that's what you're asking no I'm not asking that I'm talking about when someone takes their lawn Mr Bernstein you know what I'm talking about absolutely when somebody takes
their front lawn and hauls in our blend on a Sunday covers it now we get rain now all the water comes down and washes out their neighbors property is that going to be covered under Property Maintenance because if that's going to
be limited that's not going to be good because I've incurred more money than the little fine that they're going to get number two you're right code enforcement doesn't know all the rentals that's because a good number of them are
illegal so they're not going there and it's changing rapidly daily there's people moving in and out on an everyday occurrence so you can't expect a company or a department rather to keep up on
something that is a constant revolving door so you guys got to take into consideration stuff that it's not just how the property looks it's how they're damaging their neighbors thank you ma'am was implanted on just say your
name Carlos Martins 406 Cobain um it's to the council and my fellow um to come up here and make personal attacks and get mad at people
doesn't help the cuse like I agree with I agree with the cause that you guys are that you're bringing up and and I actually agree with everything you said about the zoning board but the way it's presented here just becomes concentrational and we're not helping the we're not helping our cause anyway
so um because I I am concerned when you tell me that hey you violated something and we're actually going to reduce the fee just that concept right kind of goes against what what I would like I would like to see code enforcement I think is really important I think that's one of
the big thing and absentee landlords right we see that in my neighborhood in my little you know my little Street um I see that impact and I don't like it you know I don't like 10 cars every day parked in in front in front of um on the
street where little girls um ride the bikes and stuff so I think you explained it pretty good about the logic behind why this works and in the long run I think we're going to tackle that um I am
concerned when you said that zoning doesn't know how many res I'm talking about not zoning so code enforcement I asked him I had a meeting with them a couple weeks ago I asked him Point Blank um and they couldn't answer me they gave me a 2,000 uh home range right and you
were asking about legal right I understand you you can't count the illegal you don't know what you don't know but for the legal ones we should know they we should know they are equipped with STL it's just not being used properly for them to uh properly identify and to to know so that they
could have a record of the properties that renew their registration don't renew their registration the names of the tenants so therefore when they do write violations for big grass or somebody that puts a tarp on the ground or has a property that has garbage all over it which we've seen all over they
could then get the name from sdl and give it to the tenant and the Tenant would be responsible and they can also write it to the landlord but they can go after the tenant and the Tenant is the one living in the home the tenant is the one that can go to court and the Tenant is the one that should be paying the fine so so with my little knowledge I like that idea because the tenant is
there I don't have to go chase him find the landlord somewhere sir maybe maybe the landlord is in Florida I don't know but yeah sir it's been there um I've they were supposed to implement STL into their system in February of 2024
currently it is still not done right it is still not done and that falls into our Doge as I like to say it part I like to spell it D OJ e Department of Jackson efficiency love that sir thank you have
a great night Joseph Ry from Jackson uh the little things when you let them slide they turn into big problems you know by getting rid of the
small grass things cutting it you're going to end up with bigger problems one example you got houses that build a six- foot fence in their backyard they forget about the other 10 ft that they own beyond that fence go down the road here on each veterans Go
by Royal Grove you get the fences they've got bushes but they don't take care of the grass right next to the sidewalk you get a nice sidewalk you want to walk you got bugs and whatever else is all in that high growing grass
in the bushes but their mindset it's on the other side of the fence out of my sight line I'm not worried about it now I don't know if they have a homeowners association but it looks terrible out there it the grass gets two feet tall this
past summer it grabs garbage blowing in the wind and it ends up there it's unsightly you should hold the tenants responsible if they don't do it I guarantee you when you say something to the landlord they're going to say something to their tenant so what you're
doing is bypassing a landlord and putting that responsibility on the tenant they got a lease with that landlord hold the landlord responsible he owns that property if it looks terrible if I was a landlord I would like to know that they're not keeping up
standards you know you go by there's trash cans on these veterans been sitting here for days I don't know why it's a small thing yes a255 fine but they're sitting out there they're blowing out in the road impeding
traffic you have a trash day you put it out the night before you bring it in simple it's a way of life but to reduce the fines because it's it's not good for the court system
it takes up their time that's their business if it takes up their time they're going to have to need more hours but please do not get rid of the small fines small adds to big and you're going to have bigger problems down the line because people going to say h I won't
cut my grass I'll pay the $50 fine instead of paying the landscape or 100 to cut it for me it's cheaper pay the fine not have to pay a landscape to do the work thank you thank you sir seeing no one else come forward and
make a motion to close public comment second all in favor I any oppos thank you I have a motion to authorize ordinance 01225 motion second councilman belli yes councilman
pal Mar yes councilman Sergeant yes Council vice president Bernstein yes council president cun I just want to add um that the you know the meaning behind these fines is to again you saw the future that we had said that we are
going to be adding code enforcement to allow to enforce on the tenants and we do believe that this is going to actually get them enforced and get them paid nobody is getting $1,000 fine and paying $1,000 fine they're just not showing up to court it's not like they're mandated to come to court and it's not like they're putting out a warrant for their arrest so if we have
minimal fines that are smaller I'm not saying nothing um and we have code enforcement that enforces it repeatedly and gives them you know I believe that the tenants will go and we were trying to we've seen it work in other towns so I vote Yes um and you know I will yes CL
one question is the fines going to be able to be paid online the fines yes so the fines will be able to be pay online because they're not going to have to go to court which should be um able to keep the courts moving along and uh people realizing that code enforcement is going to give a fine and when a tenant gets a fine a
tenant is not going to want to pay it then it's going to go to the landlord give them both so we are trying to to clean up and do what we can thank you go ahead man the next item of business is the second reading of public hearing for ordinance 02 2025 entitled
an ordinance the township of Jackson County of ocean state of New Jersey establishing the salary range for all of the various officials and employees of the township for the year 2025 and thereafter this ordinance was introduced on February 11th
2025 if any member of the public has a comment to make please address the council at the microphone state your name and address clearly for the record you have three minutes and may only speak once uh may I have a motion to open the public hearing motion second all in
favor I any opposed motion approved Jim Sak yeah um the only comments I'm going to make on this ordinance is based on comments you guys have made tonight it should be a five- z no because this ordinance to change it I asked at the last meeting why it was
being done I got roundabout answer I was told it was a state mandate State mandates don't tell you you have to increase these things you just have to post them Mr McGuckin told us Jackson Township uses a smaller window you know smaller ranges and and they've been
doing it for 20 years well miss C you've made the comment saying it's been that way for as long as you can remember is not the answer anymore so that based on your comments and Mr Bernstein Mr pal I know you even spoke in in the article that I read that all three of you has
commented regarding your how you're going to look at all the uh departments here's one you can look at right now and stop it you're going through the budget process make sure it's right before it's done you know what there's maybe five people that this is going to impact if
you say no to it and go back to the 2024 it's only impacting the ones that are at the max of their range anyway those are the only people and I'm pretty sure and let's I'm going to hope that Jackson Township doesn't pay every employee the max of their range because then you have
another problem and you can save a hell of a lot of money that way so based on your comments I think every one of you should say no to it the other part of when I was up here last week I made a statement and one of the residents pointed out that there was an error corrected it was I I understand
that but what concerns me is there's five of you up there I know Mr Sergeant you weren't at the meeting last last week so I I'll exclude you from this but there were five of you none of you caught it what does that mean to the residents well if I'm looking at it my
question becomes are you reading these things are you just accepting them that they're written the way you think they're supposed to be written so that's my concern is to me is a clear you vote no on this tonight I I do read the numbers I do read I did not read the
year I did read the beginning paragraph of that I will be honest with you and transparent um the I did look into what your comment was last meeting um and because the values or the ranges are so low um it is required for us because I was going to remove it and I was told
that we need to keep it on because there is ranges that have changed um but go ahead councilman council president could I ask a question absolutely probably for the attorney mccuen or from Mr wall um what happens if there is if we would
leave last year's salary range good um well if there are contracts excuse me if there are contracts or payments uh required by contract which are outside of the ordinance they would be improper payments to the employees would be noted
in your you would fail your audit for lack of a better term um and pay can only be provided to People based upon An approved salary ordinance are there I guess employees who would be outside of of this range if we would not
adopt this new range Mr W probably knows that better than I've asked that question and I was told from Administration that there is nobody that is paid outside this range again I the old range or the new Range um not obviously the 2024 range I have a question for the attorney
if if I could please Mr mcgucken some of these ranges these are union negotiated correct I mean these ranges have to change because we have several year negotiations with unions where the minimal and maximum change every year because that's what's negotiated several years out of I mean I've sat on many
committees that do Union negotiations and these have to change with the Union correct thank you councilman we want to keep it moving we have we have eight ordinances it's not it is that but there is multiple contracts he 30 seconds 30
seconds now I'm gonna get yelled at by everybody regards to the union contracts and you made the statement they're seven years out well not seven years I said several several okay several there's several years correct so why do the ranges have to change every year if you
know those Union contracts are there you can build your ranges so that you cover that full contract because the minimal can't stay the same if the minimal goes up every year you can't keep the minimal too low because that if we hire someone new within that range to be higher than
minim but the the max does not have to change correct but the minimum does so it changes any the max changes with the unions so we only go up okay when the only way a minimal is impacted is if if if the minimal went down because if
you're minimal if you're making 42,000 now and that's the minimum and next year the minimum in the contract goes to 44 the range is 42 to 80 they're within it that cover just ask Mr mcen quickly um is there a could we have could the could
the could the range be from zero to 100,000 like is is is that allowed or at a certain point that raises FL it's not you have to have a range and you can't it can't be so broad that it doesn't give notice to the public of what the individual employees could be making corre so we we're different from other
towns where our ranges are smaller some some towns go over their range and and they don't update their records we do update our records and that's why it's presented every year we're gonna we're gonna let somebody else speak you're only updating thank you sir you have a great night I appreciate it hello again I'm back um can you just
your name yeah Donnie Adelman 206 will appoint thank you I understand this is overall in regards to the rank and file and I guess maybe hiring new people no this is only budget this is only salaries well my concern is along with the budgetary component of it is that we
maintain uh that the employees in the various departments specifically code enforcement and inspections maintain proper accreditation and that they are fired sir we're just going over this but thank you come at the end and you can say that
comment okay thank you sir Mr mcgucken uh well through council president chair um aren't a lot of these Civil Service titles that have to yes by law Civil Service RS yes indicate a
minimum and a maximum for the tit yes I think that um the business administrator has said that for many years so we're going to move on um unless anybody else has any com comments I'd like to else come forward I make a motion to close public comment second all in favor I I any opposed
motion approved I have a motion to authorize ordinance 02 2025 motion second councilman brelli yes councilman Paul Mary yes councilman Sergeant yes Council vice president Bernstein yes
council president cun yes thank you the next item of business is a second reading and public hearing for ordinance 03 2025 it's had an an ordinance of the township Council of the township of Jackson County of ocean state of New Jersey authorizing the acceptance of a
land donation for properties known as block 104 Lots 29 and lot 30 as shown on the tax map of the township of Jackson right debau Road this ordinance was introduced on February 11 2025 if any member of the public has a
comment to make please address the council add the microphone and state your name and address clearly for the record you have 3 minutes and may only speak once may I have a motion to open public hearing motion to open second all in favor I I any opposed motion
approved seeing no one come forward make a motion to close public comment second all in favor I any opposed motion approved may I have a motion to authorize ordinance 03225 motion second councilman belli yes
councilman Paul Mary yes councilman Sergeant yes Council vice president Bernstein yes and thank you councilman uh burelli for finding this and bringing it to our attention thank you council president Kum I'd like to second that thank you she's text me all day and can't wait for the text that this is
done very happy for them glad we're able to get it done and add it to our open space inventory as well yes this will be added to our open space yes thank you the next item of business is the second reading and public hearing of 04 2025 entitling an ordinance of the township of Jackson County of ocean state of New
Jersey establishing uh chapter 432 of the Township Code regulating low-speed electric bikes and motorized bicycles this orders was introduced on February 11 2025 if any member of the public has a comment to make please address the council at the microphone and state your
name and address clearly for the record you have three minutes and may only speak once may I have a motion to open public hearing motion second all in favor I I any opposed motion approved seeing no one come forward and make a motion to close public comment
second oh wait hurry up come on come on you know which one this is right it's the B Electric B yes okay sorry about that D 206 will Point couple
of things please for the love of God clarify for this the uh less intelligent Jackson police officers uh sir excuse me I I'm allowed to say what I want how I want um that an exclusion for whatever these regulations
are for electric wheelchairs are um it shouldn't have to be said but just for clarification so there is no animosity going forward between any disabled resident and Jackson Police Department
that there is whatever exclusions would be appropriate for electric uh wheelchairs number one and number two I think the other thing is uh on a technicality you might just want to add electric scooters as Port as a portion
of that law because they're all similar types of equipment I guess and the kids ride them and do whatever um and I just think that it's best that now you have the time it's only typing a few extra words before you sign it or vote on or
whatever it is guys do um just to cover all the bases this way there is no animosity because you know the kids like I guess they should have their helmets on or their knee whatever the law actually says is because you know I don't want to see their a kid get their head split open because they fell off a bike I understand there's a re the
reason behind this thank you but just again put everything out there and spell it out for anybody who might get confused thank you sir there is a part two coming so and yes I will have director candido send you an email confirming that um electric wheelchairs
are acceptable seeing no one else come forward and make a motion to close public comment second all in favor I I any opposed motion approved may I have a motion to authorize ordinance 04 2025
motion second council member Elli yes councilman Paul Mary if I could just add before voting uh two things one um I just want to be very clear I take offense to Mr Adelman saying that our Police Department is unintelligent we
have a smart intelligent dedicated Brave and courageous police department and if you are not putting on a uniform yourself please do not disrespect the men and women that put on that uniform every day and risk their life for our town no secondly what I'd like to say is
uh I would like some uh eventually I'd like to incorporate scooters and other motor devices because I think it's more encompassing and the younger generation are riding these scooters and other motorized vehicles that I think that we should regulate as well for safety councilman that is part two that I'm
working with the traffic safety Bureau and um officer lasasco is uh working on that now he put many many many hours into uh this ordinance that so that we could start it and uh you know we will continue to work on it absolutely thank
you I vote yes you can come back at the end sir you had Robert rules I have a right to direct sir sir please please please please we've cut the time I'm already getting a lot for that we have a lot ofin com to what I said I have a right to no you don't sir you have a right to
come back later in the meeting you can come back later in the meeting I'm sorry sirk thank you councilman can we continue Madam clerk councilman Sergeant yes Council vice president Bernstein yes I just have one quick first of all just thank you also to
officer Lasco on all the s and everyone who's involved in this um just to clarify um enforcement I I know it's something that came up before um about the need for enforcement we talk about this with other ordinances that we want to do begging and pleading if we could
actually have enforcement on this because otherwise it's useless to continue creating ordinances if if our men and women don't have the resources to actually enforce it so but yes I I do agree council president Q I'm going to second that we do need enforcement but we also need uh men and women in a
police department to get hired we need more police officers so that we can do enforcement we do not have enough men and women out there to enforce a lot of the ordinances um and other departments are over overloaded and aren't enforcing ordinances that we're doing or blatantly
telling us that they're not going to enforce them so we are looking again we're always hiring at the police department um the mayor has um allocated I believe six new hires I know that they're interviewing some I vote Yes on this and I again thank the traffic safety Bureau that Jackson the men and women of Jackson Police Department for
always helping the council out in everything that we do and and I run every ordinance uh through the department heads so we try to keep it as clean as we can but thank you yes thank you motion approved the next item excuse me of business is the second reading of public he uh for ordinance 05 2025 an
ordinance of the township of Jackson County of ocean state of New Jersey amending and supplementing chapter 244 of the Township Code of the township of Jackson entitled land use and development regulations so as to amend 24468 entitled design of single and two
family dwellings this ordinance was introduced on February 11th 2025 if any member of the public has a comment to make please address the council at the microphone and state your name and address clearly for the record you have three minutes and may only speak once may I have a motion to open
the public hearing motion second all in favor I any opposed motion approved you can come up ma'am again you'll have three minutes please state your name Elanor Hanam Jackson New Jersey um I have a question why is this ordinance
being changed and who is it being changed for please speak you have three minutes no I'm asking the question please speak you have three minutes you're supposed to be answering my question when it comes to the Orin and purpose of this Council will not answer your questions
please speak when residents are allowed to ask questions about ordinances that are being passed so this is land use and development regulation this creates a situation
where property owners and developers can and will drop trailers on their property destroying the character of our neighborhoods and our property values so as the code reads now a joining dwellings shall be considered to be
substantially alike in exterior design and appearance when the front elevations are along the same approximate plane and they have any one of the following characteristics so in this ordinance what you're looking to do is rewrite it
and delete one or number two of the ordinance the same basic dimensions are used without substantial change in or orentation of the houses on the Lots the other portion of this ordinance that is being deleted is the size type and
location of windows and doors in the front elevation are without substantial differentiation so why are these two pieces being deleted but we are leaving in there the same basic dimensions are
used without substantial differentiation of one or more exterior elevations I find this very very interesting that yet again we are now at since you've been here you have changed
12 land use ordinances 12 you are a real estate agent I find this quite quite interesting so again I'm done can you answer my question why is this being changed and who is this being changed
for there's one 1 2 3 4 five six seven eight when you say you can you pronounce us properly I don't know who you is I don't speak to you like that don't speak to me like that can you please answer my question this ordinance has not been updated since 1960 you're not answering
the question that that was your answer it's been updated since that's the answer that is your answer that's the answer that is your answer this is being done again for developers no these are being this is a change that is specifically being done
for developers and you are opening up the door that these developers or people that are buying a piece of property can plop a trailer and connect them I know exactly what this is thank you ma'am I warn the seeing no one else come forward make
a motion to close public comment all in favor I I I'm sorry I I jumped the second who was the second I didn't hear the second right I said I was the first second you know it's thank you all in favor I I any opposed motion approved may I have a
motion to authorize ordinance 05 2025 motion second councilman brelli yes councilman Paul Mary yes councilman Sergeant yes Council vice president Bernstein yes council president cun
yes thank you the next item of business is a second reading of public hearing for ordinance 0622 and ordinance amending chapter 388 towers and recer this ordinance was introduced on February 11
2025 if any member of the public has a comment to make please address the council at the microphone and state your name and address clear for the record you have three minutes and may only speak once may I have a motion to open public hearing motion second second all
in favor I I any opposed motion approved seeing no one come forward make a motion to close public comment motion second all in favor I I any opposed no thank you motion approved may I have a motion
to authorize ordinance 06 2025 motion second councilman burelli yes councilman pal Mar yes councilman Sergeant yes Council vice president Bernstein yes council president cun yes thank you
motion approved the next item of business is the payment authorization of bills and claims I would like to note the following extensions councilman burelli NJ M6 R4 R14 st28 and
tr8 and council president cun rcs2 are there any questions or comments by the township coun no ma'am may I have a motion to approve the bills and claims with the extensions noted
motion second council member Elli yes exensions on those one uh the ones you mentioned thanks councilman Paul Mary yes councilman Sergeant yes Council vice president Bernstein yes council
president cun yes motion approved the next item on the agenda is the consent agenda listed for tonight's consideration are resolutions 105 through 114 2025 listed by title I'd like to a note an exstension from councilman Sergeant for
resolution uh 112 2025 are there any questions or comments by Township Council I have a comment on resolution 13-20 25 the Jackson board of education has taken a significant and necessary step in authorizing legal
action against against the New Jersey State Board of Education this decision is not just about one policy or mandate it is about ensuring that our local school district retains the ability to make decisions that have best serve the needs of our students families and
Community as elected officials we have a responsibility to stand with them in this fight a resolution of support the township Council a resol a resolution of support from the township council is more than a symbolic gesture
it is a clear message that Jackson will not stand idly by while State overreach threatens our ability to govern at the local level we are united in protecting the Integrity of our schools and the future of our children and we will not back down thank
you are there any additional comments by the council no ma'am no thank you may I have a motion to authorize the consent agenda resolutions 105 through 1114 2025 with the exension noted of councilman Sergeant for resolution 1112 2025 motion motion
second councilman burelli yes councilman Paul Mary yes councilman Sergeant yes Council vice president Bernstein yes council president C yes motion approved thank you is there anything additional um before the public comment by the
Township Council no ma'am thank you at this time if any member of the public has any comments to make please address the council at the microphone state your name and address clearly to the record you'll have three minutes and may only speak once may I have a motion to open public comment motion to open public
comment second all in favor I I any opposed motion approved Donnie you want to come up first to finish your statement okay David wone Jackson New
Jersey private citizen employee of Code Enforcement not speaking as a code enforcement officer again Miss K every criticism you brought
up regarding code enforcement as a very reasonable explanation but you don't want to hear that in this you can do it during the audit you rush what you can do it during your audit on March 11th do what explain
I'm not GNA explain anything my bosses are okay thank you okay I'm not done wait a minute don't dismiss me I won't I won't go okay you you bring up the property maintenance and how tenants should resp
responsible instead of the landlords also known as the property owner okay the property owners are the ones responsible to maintain the property it is very easy to ident much easier to
identify the property owner than it is the tenants in many many cases we don't know who the tenets are what do you mean no yeah yeah I could look up any addess and say whether it's an LLC or a private
person in many cases we have illegal tenants and we don't know who's in charge there but you don't want to know that see because you're a landlord and you're working in behalf of the landlords that's all I have to say just
because you said something to me I'm going to respond to I'm not a landlord my little brother that during Co lives in my house and because I'm just saying I did the proper paperwork as I had to and if you understand landlord tenant responsibility the tenant has more
responsible and owns more than the than the landlord so the tenant is responsible so you're inaccurate and then if you go and you with a paperwork that you have to fill out to code enforcement strictly says you have to have the tenants first and last name and a contact phone number for them so therefore if you did your if you if you
updated your system in sdl you would have the tenants information thank you sir have a great night I'll see you next week or sorry two weeks yes ma'am Deb Jones heis Road first I'd like
to thank Mr barelli and Mr Paul Mary for standing next to standing up with our Board of Ed because we need nothing more than our entire Town Council to be standing up with our Board of Ed no matter what they personally feel also um Miss cun you mentioned that
you said it's not you said that change isn't always popular it's not so much the change that's not popular it's the continual changes that are blatantly poor changes that's not popular the fact that you are asking for
an audit now after you voted in a over 300% raise for our Council that's outrageous and you know I've stood here more than one time saying so and one of the biggest problems
um Sorry Miss K but you just said to one of the residents here you Saidi will do whatever I want that's not okay you can't do whatever you want you along with everyone else you
represent us into do can I have your attention please because absolutely yours I was just see went up on the screen but we we're the taxpayers you're working for us essentially to do what's best for the entire ire
town you need to remove I from the equation it is not an i it's a us it's not just you also I'm a I'm a little disgusted that I not only saw this at
the last meeting online but now I've heard you say it a few times to people when you say and it's not in a nice calm way it's snarky when you're saying see you again bye have a good night Mr Bernstein you
said while your mic was on at the last meeting after one of the residents came up and asked you questions your exact words were oh that was fun that's disrespectful your raise is funded by our
taxes whether you like what is being said or not you're held to a different standard than we are sitting out here and that's because you are voted in you can't just treat people like this it's not
right you might not like it but you have to do what's right by the people that you're working for if you said to your boss if they said something to you oh that's fun in the manner in which you said it here I don't think you'd have that
job it's not nice we talk about everyone being nice to each other well unfortunately you got to lead by example I'm very disgusted thank you ma'am elanar hannam Jackson New Jersey
just for the record because um there seems to be uh a skew of words so that the people think something is what it's not um so I'm going to read pavement painting curbing this has
everything to do with improving an application and a site plan that's what this has to do with the other point that I would like to note is that on 211 on the first reading it is outlined that
the first penalty is $75 second is$ 150 and the third is 300 but today it seems as though it's now changed to first offense 100 second offense 250 and third offense 400 so these typos are
very very concerning and very very unprofessional I cannot believe none of you caught that I would also like to address the fact of the continuous changing ordinances continuous and none of you
have any reason as to why you're doing it so I will go back to my comment that I made probably about a year ago oh that's right this is the anniversary of when my First Amendment right was violated and Miss cun here in
exactly six seconds had me removed by the office the police department which is a complete violation of my constitutional rights but again this board continues to violate the open public meetings act and I'd like to know if Chief was provided a rice
notice so that he knew that you would be talking about his work his job his job performance on the Das and in public that is illegal I'd also like to know when the special meeting on January 23rd
is going to be posted on our website because that was done illegally and then council president here illegally acting as a clerk posted it in the asber Park Press bypassing the clerk's office that again is illegal Mr gucken can affirm
that it's not I did look up the statute and I find it very very disappointing that I now see we lost a clerk because you didn't like her she wouldn't do she abided by the law we lost a CFO a deputy CFO and now we're
losing here to know when the public will be allowed to know what the sance is thank you ma'am thank you ma'am have a great night I appreciate you coming up your time thank you ma'am have a great night Madam president
if I could just quickly sir I'm gonna ask it we just no but there was we amended that agenda we did I know we all know we did and council president I think you mentioned it by that meeting yes we did did I you know I think everybody knows that it yeah somebody came late and
didn't realize that it was updated prior at the first reading so I just wasn't going to justify that one an answer because it's already been answered so I will say it again it was updated last meeting you must have missed it the paperwork that you had last meeting when you brought it up was inaccurate and the one that you brought
up this time was inaccurate thank you ma'am sir ready I'm ready thank you okay uh boys and girls everybody I'm sorry sir your name just for the I'm sorry Donnie Adelman 206 will appoint boys and girls any children watching at home ear us
kids um couple things Mr wall let's just take care of this real I called you a couple weeks ago spoke to the L you did call me back and I've called you a couple of times since you did return my call and I haven't heard from you I need to meet with you can you make a commitment on the record that you're
gonna meet with me sometime in the very near future to help resolve some issues tomorrow would' be fine awesome all right um that's it as far as you as far as my with that uh Mr pom
Mar um as a resident who's been abused by Jackson Police no one gives a about your boot looking all right I don't find all police officers bad all right but overall the ignorance pervading through that uh police
department from the top down it's not starting with coons it's stared with candido all right as it is right now I have several criminal charges pushed against me because candido doesn't like me asserting My First Amendment rights all right which is going to cost this town a lot of money if the board does not reign in their boy because your
police uh director is vasly exceeding his authority and is acting as a de facto police chief he is making policy changes and he is making changes that are well essentially above his pay grade and out of his role and and out of his
scope of authority um sir I'd be more than happy to send you the ordinance of the public safety director so that you could see he's is acting within his authority I'll I'll email it to you tomorrow sir don't want to argue I just I'm going to email it to you I have your email so you have it I want you to read it and then come back we'll go over it
candido to put up the signs blocking access to Chief sha Drive candido did that on his own and he spent Town's the town's money and by doing so by changing the sign and before the signs were changed he had his officers a bunch of a
bunch of pieces of come out to my property two times in force wasting 15 hours of of man hours all right to issue me nine tickets because I was filming them breaking the law the concern here is I hear about enforcement why don't we
start with enfor making sure the police don't break the law why is there such a problem when I sit there I point out the police are breaking the law it is very cut and dry they may not like it and yes it is may be a very low-level crime but theft is theft and when it's the police officers who are writing tickets for
window tits no no front license plate and for the license plate blockers half of them say that oh well the license they're legal the other half saywell we don't care we're not going to enforce it because they've been told they're not allowed to use it uh as a pretextual
reason that's okay write the ticket and leave the person alone you don't need to sit there and write the ticket and then go snooping and Away you go but you have the police that are breaking all these laws no one seems to Care thank you sir I'm going to email that to you just so you have it I have okay I'll I'm G to send it again Mr council president yes
um Mr Adelman has every right to file any litigation he wishes this is United States of America this is a free country however I just want to make one thing clear I will always back the blue thank you thank
you Ria AI Mahmud 486 Meadowwood Road um Miss cun you earlier said homeowners are not mandated to show to court for violations um last I checked there's checks and balances Judicial System
processes to be followed um the homeowner is the responsible person not the tenant Tenants come and go and there's no real way to track all of our renters here in Jackson and we all know this um the homeowner is the stakeholder
and is the one financially invested in their own property that is called responsibility accountability respect and consideration for your neighbors the law and your community 780 heis Road has been a disaster you stated something and you
were meant to keep your word but you didn't you said you were going to look out for 780 heisten Road you gave me incorrect information about the parking because the chief officer that was here said everything you said was
incorrect and then after that we had had three other accidents so not only did you not follow up on Heist and Road it got worse the parking lot holds 60 cars both shoulders parked from corner to
corner five accidents and less than a year and a half so you said something you didn't stick to it that's not Integrity I'm sorry homeowners are responsible for their property you pay
taxes you elect rental income you make a contract with your tenants for what your standards are you as the homeowner are responsible for your property thank you ma'am Joseph Rudy
Jackson you said you went on landlord but the meeting when you started with the first ordinances he says I'm a landlord what what are you you're flip-flopping I pay the fees I a family member stays in my house and they consider me a landlord you are a
landlord if I I don't collect the check but yes I I guess I am a all right all right great are Mr Bernstein you are the council's coordinator with code enforcement who on the council is the no one government this former government is
a faler act Administration deals with okay problem with code enforcement why can you not hold them we are not they're not under our perview that it is under Administration this is why we're getting so much flesh we're
getting a little Kickback because we are stepping in we are stepping in then you need to pass a resolution giving you control it unfortunately sir this form of government doesn't work like that February 21 20124 write it down [Music]
please an application was before the zoning board to change a residence to a business February 21 2024 and I just looked at it before coming here I
replayed the tape the applicant wanted to change it from a residence R1 to a business and he laid out all the explanations testifying no more than
five people are going to be be there sir that's not this board we're Council we don't do that that's not under our well I'm going to bring it up because I want on the record okay a week that night he was denied permission to change from a
residence to a business it was denied two weeks later there were dumpsters in the driveway they were doing renovations inside called Colden Forceman stopped by
their office what's going on there he was denied nothing was done later on it opened up as a business you drive by in the evening you see commercial ceiling lights in the front
door he changed it to a commercial use without authorization or approval from zoning board this has been going on for a year it's still going on he said he I only need eight six parking
spots every day you drive by there now there was at least eight cars three weeks ago there was 10 cars in the driveway and three on South Hope Chapel Road it's 167 South Hope Chapel
Road he's been violating it and snubbing it and the resident noses doing what he wanted to do sir I took down the information unfortunately your time is up but again I just want we is under Administration it's not under us I've gone to code enforcement
numerous times nothing has been done I appreciate and all they can say is I'm looking into it there's nothing to look into board it up close it up e ilal sir unfortunately your time is up thank you sir I appreciate it council president hopefully through the audit we'll be able to get better yeah hopefully
through the audit a lot of these things will be able to uh yeah get remedied sorry ma'am that's okay I'm really scared and nervous hi Patty well 397 leeville Road I just have a question I don't want to waste everyone's time the ordinance was about
cutting grass with the landlord and the Tenant that's what that ordinance was so their grass has to be cut am I correct in understanding that good and then Mr um go ahead sorry Mr so it was the property maintenance code ordinance that
was amended but the ownership of the property and the Tenant were already part of the ordinance that didn't change the only thing it changed was to allow um uh F little lower fines however higher fines for more violations and mandatory Court appearances for those
who violate it more than twice so um I'm sorry everybody so you're finding the tenant and the landlord or ten has always applied to the landlord the tenant the owner the whoever's there it can apply to all of them so the code
enforcement can have the ability to do any of those individuals to be named as the defendant if the property is not being M that not changed okay so not both so so my question does the zone so if there so be it do we as a
town find both the landlord and the Tenant only one person would be ultimately find okay it allows us to bring a charge against any of them and whoever's easiest to find and easiest to get to court is the one that we would proceed against because it's easier and
cheaper for us to do it that way okay thank you thank you so much question that's what we're looking into so we will have that answer for you in two weeks that's that's kind of what I was trying to that was the gist of what I was getting at I heard that I you guys are very well you're very intimidating so it's very scary I have some critiques
which I see that they did put things up so when you're doing the ordinances and also if the clerk could just be a little bit more articulate or announce annunciate a little better it's hard to understand what she was saying but it would help if the ordinance the picture of the ordinance number that you're
discussing he just put some stuff up so it's like a flash that you can do with the audiovisual guy I'm assuming that's who that is that's just atique that's our I and the other thing is some because um hearing so so a lot of people
speak I I know very loud and a lot of people like Mr mcck Mr McGuckin is like my husband he's very softspoken sometimes I can't understand what he's saying so if the audio visual could just raise when people we are working on it it's I'm sorry to take your time up have
a good than you ma'am we appreciate your input we're all let's just please take a you know I just you've got you just please because it's very scary thank you man' and there are some really nice people here very nice people here and
we're all I think just trying to get to the same point in time agre eventually agreed man in life okay Miss whan would you say would you say I'm sof spoken too I'm just kidding Mr pal yes unless you're talking about uh yeah and I yes
okay I'm nervous goodbye Carlos Martins Jackson New Jersey um so when I first came here I was actually very excited because I had some good news for everybody um that I wanted to share as a newly
minted member of our Multicultural committee and we're actually getting stuff done and we're going to have some great announcements unfortunately right now after all everything that happened I'm a little less excited but anyway I think it actually fits in so on everybody
could mark their calendars March 26th the we're going to have our first ever Forum related to the Multicultural event excuse me sir hold on a second can you please quiet down over there thank you and um our goal s is our first ever
Our member and some of them are here today uh we're going to introduce ourselves focusing on our cult our culture obviously my name is Carlos Martin so my culture is you know but we have people from everywhere and the idea is the more we know about the different
cultures that are in Jackson the better I think we can um coexist and if you know your neighbor if you break bread with your neighbor um it's all going to be better for I think for all of us and so I I think it's a
great it's a great initiative um it is only our first one but um you know the idea that uh it's better you know let's not wait to be 100% perfect so it's going to be we're 80% perfect the idea here is get to know the residents get to
know our neighbors and get to know us um and again focused on culture um you know to the extent religion plays into your culture great let's talk about that um so that's the initiative we're also going to have a website and it's going to be in two
weeks we're going to have a website on on the Jackson Township and um as I call it it's going to be in Trump time so it's going to be two weeks we're going to have it out there um again it won't be perfect because it's going to be the first one but at least it's there and
we're going to show some initiative so please mark your calendar March 2025 this year month thank you sir thank you Carlos thank you thank you anyone else uh hi my name is Ryan Drew to Iowa
court um I'm just looking for clarification from something said earlier where uh you said that the landlords aren't showing up to pay pay the fines that are being put upon them so you're going to divert the fines to the uh tenants I just I'm just confused
on how the um landlords are allowed to get away with that when they're clearly the more wealthier out of the two compatriots so they're just able to ignore the fines being put upon them why they're getting put up the people that probably comparatively can't afford them because the tenant also have to pay the landlord on top of the fines so
landlords just get a just get the walk away I don't know if that applies to this board or not but just looking for ification to to yes please so what happens is when you're a landlord and you have a tenant there's a thing there's a lease in place and 99.9% of the landlords put in the lease that
maintenance of the property property maintenance is a responsibility of the tenant and therefore the tenant would be responsible um if they were go to court that would kind of I would say I'm no judge I'm no jury I'm no anything but that's kind of where we're going with that is that if the tenants are responsible if a landlord wants to go
they can't just walk into a house without giving notification for the tenant or getting in there or going and cutting the grass if the landlord is responsible to maintenance property then yes but that's why the attorney had said it could be both to the tenant and the landlord so if they both go to court and a and a and a tenant you know a landlord
brings the leense to say it was a tenant's responsibility here it is I'm not a judge again but I would think that the tenant would get the uh the fine but what we're trying to do is we're trying to open up so that code enforcement can go up to these properties and can give fines and give violations for properties that are not being maintained we're just
trying to give quality of life and make it better for for everyone we're not trying to you know let anybody get less or more or anything $1,000 fine is not being implemented in the court system that I'm aware of I did ask so we're just trying to say listen if we can give you you know a couple more and every two
weeks you're getting you know 150 you know uh what is it $400 fine and then you mandated you have to go to court I think hopefully habitual offenders will stop happening all right thank you I was just looking for clarification have a good day thank you sir have a good night good evening Eric Jones heison Road I'm
going to beat the dead horse 780 heisen I live down the block which is down the hill two10 of a mile away now I went to the planning board yesterday or whatever day it was and they were on the agenda to be approved to be change the house into a house of worship on your guys
billing thing you already recogniz it as a house of worship because there's some kind of payment to them um and the thing with the planning board is they told me they're going from here to the Future they're not looking backwards okay all of us as neighbors
we've been dealing with this place since 2023 they' changed the grade they've ripped out all the grass like my wife has said you talk about property maintenance I've had so Ocean County soils out there to find them to put up silt fence to keep the dirt from washing down the
road they've also um they've done all the changes to the house there is no no modifications being done so every every person that testified on the planning board whether it be the lawyer the planner they all lied because everything that they
testified to is already done the facade of the building is changed they brought in concrete trucks I don't know what like 12 concrete trucks I don't know what they were pouring I don't know if they securing the floor so they could have a 100 people in there don't know I'm just letting you know that this is
going on and people have to deal with three years before an application is even approved I've had zoning out there like I said I've had the soils commission out there and it still goes on we're looking into our code enforcement that is a code
a lot of videos to people Mr wall is very very aware of my everything you're mentioning is a Code Enforcement issue and that's why we're looking into code enforcement you guys you're riding code can I ask one question just maybe pause pause the clock for one second what happened with the county with the soil what did the county say well they came out and had them make corrections to
stop the soil from washing off the property and down the road did they find them do you know I don't know what the fines are for there but they they told me they did find them thank you you know but um anyway as advertised this meeting is
advertised till 9:00 so I don't know why you changed it to uh three minutes we got some time left here we didn't know how many people yeah thank you but you could have done another what do you call that you make the change change it back to five right now because I got a
list got 29 seconds I'm sorry sir I'm not doing that thank you but you could do that but I'm not going to see it's you're aware of the highway always rules it's rules because then I'm GNA have 15 people that yell at me thank you okay hope
drew that was my son first time here um so I was at the plan board and I guess my question is this how do we deter people from illegally using their homes because it's not just houses
of worship there's schools there's daycares during the Summers there's summer camps and we know we were saying at the planning board meeting that it's a Enforcement issue and all you keep saying tonight is code code code it's
zoning zoning and building we know this if I called right now code enforcer and I said um there is a daycare in Harmony Farms two homes are working simultaneously together drop off of 40 cars on a quiet residential street with
no regard to their neighbors the selfishness is just outrageous pick up is at 3:30 the same 40 cars come parking this way that way this way that's just one neighborhood this is just one example I could give you 10 if I call
right now code can't do anything nothing their hands are tied zoning can't do anything because we still don't have an interpretation of a house of worship we now need interpretations of what a prayer house is we need interpretations of what a daycare is we need interpretation of what a play date is
because if you call zoning and they run out and they'll say oh they said it's a play date I'm sorry I'm a mom of four play dates don't drop off kids 40 of them with backpacks and pick them up at 4:30 in the afternoon a play date is a mom who walks in with her child and all other moms and they go for a couple
hours and they all leave together we're not stupid okay the games I'm tired of the games I'm tired of the shenanigans I'm tired of the going around and going around it's just something needs to be done Jackson is not a town you can just come and do what you want we are
supposed to all live to together we're supposed to be neighbors we are neighbors I have great neighbors but if they just disregarded me and my family I'd be pissed I'd be hurt it's selfishness and we all know what we're talking about it has just there needs to
be ordinances created to give zoning and code more power to enforce what is happening here okay their lives if you were at the planning board it was heartbreaking absolutely heartbreak breaking to listen to her be so upset
about What's happen it's her life I mean do you guys not get that this is an everyday you might not see it but it's every single day you wake up and it's just a rem and nothing is being done nothing is being done there was a bus on my neighborhood Who a car drove right
past it now my issue about that some of the houses that are being illegally used is not anything it's the harm that it's causing my daughter is on the bus stop at 6:30 in the morning it's dark dark one morning it was raining I ran in my car in my pajamas like a crazy mother
like most people would be and I had to jump out of the car to stop another car because he was darting into an illegally used home do it regularly you made the ordinances you're giving the pathway to
do it legally you changed all the zoning to be um not conditional I can't think right now all the Zoning for houses worship dorms whatever you gave them the pathway to do it legally you did' there's no excuses for doing it legally anymore there really isn't so you need
to stop the illegal this and say Hey listen you want to do it close it down here's the pathway we gave it to you here's your book but nobody's doing it legally thank you ma'am I appreciate it have a good night seeing no one else come forward
and make a motion to close public comment second I motion to close meeting I'll make a motion to close second all in favor I any motion approve