flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all good evening and welcome to the April 22nd 2025 regular meeting of the Jackson
Township Council pursuant to the provisions of the New Jersey Open Public Meeting Act adequate notice this meeting was properly provided by transmitting a notice of the meeting on January 20 2025 for publication notice of this meeting in the township council has been posted in the quarter of the municipal building and in the office of the municipal clerk
we'll begin with a roll call councilman Blli here councilman Paul Mary present councilman Sergeant Council Vice President Bernstein here council President Cune here also attending this evening is assistant business administrator
Samantha Novak and township attorney Brent Pullman and myself Sandra Martin Township Clerk for the next item tonight uh an update from the Department of Public Works uh Sean Bolinski c uh Council President
Keune thank you Madam Clerk the Barnagate Bay Cleanup at Bunker Hill Bogs was a success we had over 25 volunteers and collected 17 bags of trash we would like to extend our sincere thank you to the New Jersey for helping keep Jackson clean bulk
collection has begun in zone 6 uh a reminder to residents please keep the piles set out for collection uh neat and um off the curb side please do not block any sidewalks brush collection starts in zone 7 on next Monday of 428 as spring
is here a reminder to any Jackson residents that need compost or wood mulch we have an availability at our facility at 334 Jackson Mills Road it's free to all just come with your own truck or trailer improvements to the Jackson Jungle are complete and the park is open for the children to enjoy our
contractor is currently working on installing the Field of Dreams at the playground we appreciate the calls of litter problematic areas in town please continue to report to the DPW thank you council President may Director Candido
come up to speak about the hiring in Jackson Township Police Department absolutely ma'am director Candido pardon yes need a mic i'll get you a microphone works
madam clerk do we have the Bible works all right let's go okay good evening everybody my name is Joe Candido i'm the public safety director for Jackson Township Police Department i'd like to thank the mayor and the administration for the new hires we're introducing
tonight two people uh will Mason Kinwin please come up mason was born and raised in Jackson Township he attended the Jackson schools graduating from Jackson Memorial High School in June of 2023 in August Mason was hired by the Seaside Park Police
Department he attended the Ocean County Police Academy class 53 graduating in May of 24 mason worked as a class 2 police officer for the Burough Seaside Park for the summer of 2024 his duties include basic patrol work traffic enforcement
and answering calls for service within the burrow we hired Mason as a class 2 special in October of 2024 here in Jackson Township mason is extremely grateful for the opportunity to further his law enforcement career with the Jackson Township Police Department he is
supported in his law enforcement career by his father James Kinland who is a retired sergeant first class from Ocean Township Police Department in Weartown his mother Mary Nelson who is a police captain here in Jackson Township Police Department and his brother Ma Marshall
Kinland in his spare time he enjoys hunting fishing and restoring his 1990 Jeep Cherokee that's a lot of fun holding the Bible tonight will be his father James mother Mary and his younger brother Marshall if they could come up please
[Music] okay great thank you yes sir i state your name for the record i Mason Kinland do solemnly swear do solemnly swear that I will support the
Constitution of the United States that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the State of New Jersey and the State of New Jersey that I will bear true faith and allegiance that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same to the same and to the governments established in the United States and to the governments established in the United States and in
this state and in this state under the authority of the people under the authority of the people and that I will faithfully and that I will faithfully impartially impartially and justly perform all the duties and justly perform all the duties as a police officer as a police officer for the township of Jackson for the township of
Jackson according to the best of my ability according to the best of my ability congratulations thank you [Applause] so Captain Nelson's badge number is 255 and you're going to be lucky enough
to be 100 exactly after her you're getting 355 that will be your badge number thank you so much that's cool get a hand [Applause]
all right Jonathan Pulo hopefully I said that right jonathan is a officer already with uh Hopewell Township but uh Jonathan was born in
Point Pleasant New Jersey and graduated from Tom's River North High School he was a member of the varsity baseball team there officer Priscula has an associates degree from Ocean County College and he is currently pursuing a bachelor's degree in public administration from Fairley Dickinson University he's a
graduate of Ocean County Police Academy 31th 35th basic course for special law enforcement officers he began his law enforcement career as a class 2 special officer with the Point Pleasant Beach Police Department assigned to the bike and road patrol units in 2016 Officer
Pasulo was appointed as a full-time police officer with the Pennington Burough Police Department where he served for five years in 2021 Officer Pulo transferred to Hopewell Township Police Department and was assigned to the patrol unit he's a certified instructor in defensive tactics baton
and OC spray he previously served with the Mercer County Motor Vehicle Task Force compromised of officers from the New Jersey State Police Mercer County Prosecutor's Office and the Trenton Police Department aiming at combating motor vehicle thefts across the New Jersey officer Priscula holds a brown
belt in Brazilian jiu-jitsu with nine years of training experience and he currently serves as an instructor at Nicotone's MMA in Brick in New Jersey it's out of his professional uh responsibilities he is a proud husband and a father to three daughters your wife come up all right she's going to
come up and hold the Bible while we do the swearing in yeah bring the kids up too [Music] guys I can't right one on each side you got it
there you go thank you i state your name i Jonathan Pascillo do solemnly swear do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution of the United States that I will support the Constitution of the United States and the Constitution of the State of New
Jersey and the Constitution of the State of New Jersey that I will bear true faith and allegiance that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same to the same and to the governments established in the United States and to the governments established of the United States and in this state and in
this state under the authority of the people and the authority of the people and that I will faith faithfully and I will faithful faithfully impartially impartially and justly perform and justly perform all the duties all the duties as a police officer as a police officer for the township of Jackson for
the township of Jackson according to the best of my ability according to the best of my ability congratulations [Applause] I I just want to read something to
director Kandido and to the police officers just got sworn in i usually do it before you get sworn in before we come down and uh take pictures so if you don't mind just give me two seconds i'll be quick so the girls we're going to after I just want to get something out because I know everybody's going to leave as soon as we do pictures and I want to make sure that the men and
women of Jackson Police Department uh get a great appreciation from the council good evening everyone tonight we have a special honor of swearing in the new police officers to our Jackson Police Department on behalf of the council I would like to extend a warm welcome to both of you as you officially become part of the dedicated team your
commitment and bravery are vital to the safety and security of our community we deeply appreciate the hard work of all of our first responders and I sincerely believe that you are I'm reading as quick as I can joining one of the finest police departments around thank you for your service we look forward to supporting you in your new role i would
like to recognize our public safety director Director Candido it has not gone unnoticed that you along with the PBA president Michael Boland and S SOA vice president Jeff Hemba are present at every meeting along with the support of the other police officers the council truly appreciates your commit your
continued support i'd also like to take the opportunity to point out that under your leadership we uh will be hiring eight new officers this year two of them are being sworn in tonight and we are back filling retired officers positions more efficiently than that I've ever recalled during my time as the council
on behalf of the residents I would like to truly say thank you [Applause] i'd like to thank the council and the administration for the support as well um this is actually the first time that
we've been ahead of the curve in hiring uh for people that are retiring usually it happens after the fact so thank you for that and also these two gentlemen here since they're trained we're saving the township about $60,000 in training costs so thanks for that
[Applause] go ahead [Applause] thank you sir want they can leave yeah cuz they were all going to leave so tell them if they wanted to leave or they can stay madame clerk
the next item of business is the small business recognition council President Cune thank you Madam Clerk tonight we present Brooklyn Square Pizza congratulations for being named small business of the month for the
March 2025 your dedication to excellence and commitment to the community exception exemplifies the spirit of entrepreneurship in Jackson Township we appreciate your contributions and wish you continued success councilman Paul Mary thank you Council President tonight
we are proud to recognize Brooklyn Square Pizza and its owner Peter Gripple as Jackson Township Council small business highlight for March Brooklyn Square is more than just a place to grab a slice it's a beloved part of our town known for its delicious food outstanding
service and welcoming atmosphere it's a spot where the community gathers and feels at home peter Grippo is not only a successful business owner but a generous community leader a co-founder of the Dream Catches Youth Foundation he helps
bring joy to children facing illness or grieving the loss of a parent that perished in the line of duty his commitment to making a difference truly stands out tonight we are proud to honor Peter and the entire Brooklyn Square team for their contributions to Jackson
and beyond congratulations on this welldeserved recognition thank you congratulations [Music] [Applause] congratulations all right
yes yeah y Council President Keen are there any additional comments from the township council before we move on to the next agenda item um we're going to do opening comments now shifting to some important updates regarding our administration and department activities we recognize that
the process of realization and self- assessment can be times can be uncomfortable however it's often leads to a deeper understanding of the challenges we face something essential for strong and efficient leadership as a council we are conducting a thorough
review of several departments while some may not be welcome this level of scrutiny we want to make it clear that our efforts will continue until we fully understand and address the issues at hand on another note Councilman Bernstein and myself recently
participated in a project um productive Zoom meeting with our grant writer to explore new funding opportunities the discussion focused on how we can better m maximize the benefits of grants received and ensure resources are utilized efficiently one key topic was the
possibility of securing a federal grant to support infrastructure improvements along Butterfly Road unfortunately we must report that a $15,000 grant awarded in 2020 uh 23 for code enforcement had to be returned this grant was meant to
help the township comply with the new state requirements for lead-based paint certification in rental properties built before 1978 unfortunately it went unused this serves as a difficult but important lesson highlighting the need for better planning coordination and communication
to prevent future losses for our township and its taxpayers thank you Madam Clerk council Vice President Bernstein thank you Madam Clerk first of all I just want to take a moment and recognize our deputy clerk who's in the crowd again tonight we thank you for coming and it's great having you here um a special I
guess shout out to all of our township employees especially our clerk's office as everyone may be aware by now for the past somewhere between 48 to 60 hours and I'm sure my colleagues will talk about it shortly the township has not had um email which means many of our documents in our town are not accessible
um I'm wondering if we're going to be able actually be able to run payroll tomorrow um as I think a lot of a lot of our things are are going through our Microsoft Word and our Microsoft system so hopefully that will be fixed sometime before tomorrow morning i hope
um prayers um but I just wanted to take a moment and um and just talk about um recently there was a newspaper article which was talking about what we called Jackson Doge for lack of better word um and one of the people interviewed in that article mentioned that if there's
allegations of corruption people should go to the authorities um I don't think anyone in council over here is is is making allegations of corruption um I think there's really it's really questioning in this form of government council is given oversight and we're given an opportunity to vote on a budget and to look into a budget and to make
sure we're spending our money wisely as a township and council is going to continue to make sure that every once in a while um the policies and procedures are up to date with where we are in 2025 and asking those questions and council does have the right to look at different documents have a better understanding of what's going on and why decisions are
made and sometimes a decision that might have been made 15 years ago or 10 years ago might need to be modified and modernized in in the current year um and let's give a couple examples of of a couple of questions that recently came up um council had asked a couple months ago about a GPS system on some of the
township employee cars we got different answers and finally we were we were informed that GPS tracking systems were were put on i'm still not 100% sure why it wasn't put on before i didn't really get an answer i have an email from 2023 where our former recreation department
head um had GP a GPS system installed in her car um and a couple weeks later she was no longer working in town hall so that definitely raised eyebrows about if there was selective um um times that GPS systems were put on so these are just questions that we're
asking when we want to better understand why some departments yes why some departments no um initially council had asked about what our township policy was about employees taking cars home um I know a memo went out to our employees that besides for select um members of
law enforcement and select department heads employees should not be taking their cars home um now that there's a GPS tracking system unfortunately our emails are down so I wasn't able to ask for more but I just asked for one day for one random employee and um I got an employee who um took an hour and
25-minute lunch break i don't know what this what the standard for lunch i did speak to a um a government employee here i spoke to a government employee in the state um just to understand what what what is protocol and what is standard um I also found out that that employee took the the Township car home about six
miles each way to his home during lunch break which is if you do the math 12 miles a day five days a week um obviously we didn't get a chance to go through everything so these are questions we're asking it doesn't mean that there's corruption it means sometimes oversight and policies and procedures need to be modernized um we look forward to continuing this effort and we're looking forward to passing our
budget in the near future have a good night Councilman Barelli uh thank you uh Mor i appreciate it uh congratulations to our township police officers who took their oaths of office uh tonight uh we thank them for their service and they're in our thoughts and prayers oh no it's on
talking to it okay there you go sorry about that can you everyone hear me now um just to repeat uh congratulations again to our township's police officers who took their oath oaths of office tonight uh we thank them for their service and they're in our thoughts and prayers as uh they keep our town safe
and secure 247 also congratulations to Brooklyn Square my wife and I know the owner Pete and his family who were here uh before and we like to frequent the restaurant they have great food big portions you can eat leftovers for days after uh eating there and their weight staff provides wonderful service and I
encourage residents and visitors alike to patronize their business including ordering that famous Peter special um while you're at it which is named after uh the owner Pete um I'm glad to see resolutions 156-2025 and 157
uh-2025 thank you to Ocean County for their plans to put in traffic signals uh lights at these couple of intersections in our town which will help with providing more safety and increase the traffic flowing and lastly but not least
I'm glad to see resolution 162-2025 with a plan to move ahead on the amenities in our uh town's newest park Roa Park i know the committee members over the years have worked hard on it so I'm glad to see that is moving forward thank you and have a good
evening councilman Paul Mary so I would just like to uh once again congratulate our two newest police officers congratulate Brooklyn Square on their small business highlight and uh thirdly I just would like to you know
bring up this internet issue that we are having the last 48 hours is truly crippling uh our municipal communication and we really need answers from Microsoft as to what what happened uh I'm going to continue to push this issue forward and front and center until it's
resolved and we need to know not only what caused it but what stop gaps are going to be put in place so this does not happen again because this is not something we can continue uh to have because it's it's just once again completely crippling communication this is 2025 and everything is through
internet uh so we need to fix this and we need to fix it quickly thank you councilman I actually madam clerk I just want to I think we all have questions in regards to what's going on with the email being it's day three that we don't have email um so I think can we have just a open council com uh couple
questions just put on the record for administration to maybe get back to us as pertaining to what our questions are because I'd like to read a couple as well um I conducted some research on uh the different um tiers of Microsoft 365 government plans and it seems that each
of the tiers uh vary levels of features and security what tier of accounts does council currently have like does town hall have what does all the departments have do all the departments utilize the same tier and what criteria were used to determine the tier selected for the
municipality and if we have say a G1 tier from my findings G1 appears to be the most basic tier and has limitations regarding advanced security features compared to a G2 or G3 level given these limitations are we considering an upgrade to a higher tier to enhance our
security and capacity especially since the needs uh this needs to be a priority so I would just like to put them on the record councilman if anybody else has questions that they'd like to ask for administration to get back to us I understand you know I'm not going to put it on the assistant business administrator i know you've hardly
worked I know you're working on it um but you know we don't have a mayor here that we can ask so um we maybe want to just put them on the record and have somebody get back to us tomorrow thank you absolutely c another question um I know our municipal attorney regular municipal attorney is not here so I'll just ask i don't know if it's something
Mr pullman could answer or not um I know the town had a lot of Opas that were done and I'm assuming some are probably due in the past 48 hours like what's the status of those are we in violation as a town um being that the clerk can't open up her emails and can't open up any documents in in in her in her software
like I want to make sure we're protected when it comes to that and then I asked earlier I just I I heard earlier today and I it was a rumor I don't know if it's true that we might have issues with our payroll system just what is our backup plan like do we have a backup plan overall for our our our computers and I see Miss Novak is is is she
answered that um probably about an hour ago so when I was signing checks in the payroll there was concern particular because we don't have access to our email and she was worried that she wouldn't be able to run payroll i believe that they must have figured out a way to do it because she told me we are in the clear i had one more check to
sign but we were good okay okay and I did say if I have to sign everybody's check personally I have no problem doing that and then I guess my last question is I know Mr pomeary asked it earlier but I'm just going to really echo it again um going forward obviously it sounds like right now it's a Microsoft
issue it's not a Jackson issue um but what could we do in the future because my understanding from speaking to longtime employees this is the second time in five years that our system has been hacked um I know three four years ago in 2022 I think there was a period of time where a similar issue happened i don't think it was this long i think
this is the longest on record this is the longest on so there's obviously we need to upgrade but what could we do a little bit differently to upgrade our systems to make sure this doesn't happen again and again we have no we have no time for we have free accounts and we just pay for the cloud so I believe that that is something that should be maybe
as I had read into the record we can look at uh and upgrading because I know we have server problems christian I don't want to put you on the spot so I'm not going to do that but you know we just want to kind of just ask these questions and then possibly get them tomorrow because I'm my phone's blowing
how are we getting them tomorrow not funny too soon um but yeah hopefully we're up and also I know residents were concerned people had sent over information um do we have any information if the hackers got the information of residents or people you know people private did they get access
to all of our files as a town or we have no information at this point and was law enforcement was law enforcement contacted yet is the report filed with the Wouldn't that be the first thing that we would do is file a police report
i think we should not notice that i said wouldn't be the first thing that we would do if we found out it was a hacker that we would file some sort of police report so that we could Okay okay okay thank you that's Thank you thank you Councilman Sergeant i'm waving
comments for this evening thank you the next item of the business is the second reading and public hearing of ordinance 202510 introduced April 8th 2025 ordinance 202510 amending chapter 3 administrative code of the township of Jackson County of Ocean State of New
Jersey to add a new article payment methods establishing permitted methods of payment to the township at this time if any member of the public has any comments to make please adjust the council at the microphone and state your name and address clearly for the record you'll have five minutes and may only
speak once may I have a motion to open public comment motion motion all in favor i any opposed motion to approve i Donnie Adel 206 will appoint i just have one question regards this because again these motions are these amendments are
not really read in their full capacity and with all the other attachments that may go with it a lot of places these days especially if you're going to stop taking cash um charge extra for credit cards will Jackson charge its residents
extra for using credit cards also will they charge residents extra for using debit cards to pay whatever the various bills are because most places will give you a break because with debit cards apparently there is no swipe fee or whatever you know whatever the
percentage is just goes through as a full rate but either will that be added on to or that will that 3% 3 and a half% which seems to be the norm these days will it be deducted from the balance that the resident owes because I don't
think not taking cash and to make things easier and I do understand the the reasoning behind this but I don't think requiring uh electronic payments and so forth or credit cards is fair to tack on an extra percentage that you're going to pass
along to the residents because you don't want to do it the old ways anymore that's it okay you can do a money order um and if you do do your credit card I believe there is a 3.5% fee that we get charged that they do
charge on top of your payment okay because you do realize the whole point is to you know eliminate some of the steps for the residents not charge them more and money is like it's an extra step and that also is an extra expense in most cases you know I don't know what
people are paying these bills for you know or anything like that all I know is that if you're going to eliminate the ability to take cash and you're going to open up the ability to take credit cards the community should not be passing that along you know if it's mandatory If it
was optional I could understand but if it's going to be mandatory you guys should eat that i hate to say it because I know that how much that could add up over a year but you guys should possibly look into eating that because you're just eliminating a fair option for residents
thank you sir have a good night you too deb Jones Heisen Road um I spoke the last time when you did the first reading of it and again it's wrong you should not be forcing us to pay however you
want us to it should be how we want to and then to say you're going to charge us on top of it we go "Okay great we go get a money order i'll run between my job to a bank i'll get a money order i'll pay extra so I can get my dog
license." It's not fair it's absolutely not fair and then you sit here and you talk about it has been attacked how long till the credit cards I give you now my information is somewhere i really You guys have to come
down off the high horse because maybe if you took cash your employees wouldn't be worrying if they're going to get paid or not maybe you could pay them in cash you could also use a check which I also
Thank you ma'am have a great night seeing no one else come forward and make a motion to close public comment second all in favor i any opposed motion approved may I have a motion to adopt ordinance 202510
motion second councilman Brellley uh thank you Clerk uh Martin in light of what I heard tonight regarding the charge being passed on to the consumer which is in this case residents who we represent who were duly elected to represent to pay
for a township program or service and that's going to be passed on to the resident i'm switching my vote to no on this and um I I have to agree that cash should be available for people to use across the board for any township program or service that we provide here
in in Jackson Township so I'm going to vote no on this uh ordinance uh dash uh 10- I'm sorry 2025-10 thank you Councilman Pomeary [Music] i mean I definitely would like to see if
we could absorb that 3.5% i think that's not something we should pass on to the resident i understand this is second reading uh I'm not going to change my vote but I definitely think we should look to see how we can make it not an additional fee if the town has to eat that I would definitely be for that i
understand checks are also payable which is which is fine um yes Councilman Sergeant on this vote I tend to agree with uh Councilman Paul Mary i I disagree with uh the approach but I have to vote yes
thank you Council Vice President Bernstein so I also vote yes but I would also ask for us to look into the option of the township swallowing up the fee council President Kim I follow suit in the fee um it it I've been in the
clerk's office and I've seen people asking for credit card payments and they minimized the fee as it was a more of a convenience to pay the 3 and 12% fee than to you know either have a check or have they didn't have cash a lot of
people don't have you know some carry cash some don't um but we were having you know a lot of cash flow problems so I'm going to vote yes and I will look into we'll look into the fee uh collectively and see what we can do so just question quickly council president yes absolutely um what would be the is
it an ordinance or it would be like an administrative duty of the mayor's office i the fee that it comes from the finance department because when recreation doesn't charge the fee and they actually are asking to have the fee added so I believe it's on each department head that it's their choice
on whether they uh charge the fee or not because there is departments that realized they were not charging the fee and needed to update it the fee came when everything went in explosive and everybody added this fee and it just never went away just like the resident had said regarding a debit card why we get charged a fee for a debit card i I
don't understand i don't even know how it's allowed but anywhere you go if you use your card you're getting a fee so everybody's following suit with that don't listen I don't think the residents should have to pay for it so we will look into it um that'll be once we get you know once services so I guess if
tomorrow Miss Novc if we could uh if we could reach out to finance thank you thank you and by your mics Miss Miss Matthew your mic's off just said she'll look into it thank you motion passes the next item of business is the first reading introduction of ordinance
2025 ordinance 202511 amending and supplementing chapter 3 of the township code of the township of Jackson entitled administration of government council President Cun are there any comments on ordinance 202511 yes this ordinate amends chapter
3 of the township code specifically uh article X concerning the department of public works it establishes a new section 3-131 creating a division of recreation and senior services with the department of public works this division will be responsible for overseeing programs and services related to
recreation and senior citizens in the township of Jackson notably the division of recreation and senior services was originally established within the department of public works but was moved to the department of administration by ordinance in
2017 i'd also just like to make a comment pertaining to the ordinance just so it goes on the record this ordinance is going to if you see 3-132 recreation advisory board if anybody was here at the last meeting and
we had the uh softball mom come up and there were some comments made I just want to let you know little leak um I spoke with a representative today Nicole and we had a great conversation and I you know I had made a comment regarding creating a Google calendar and I think that you know that is a way that I make
things work but I understand that that doesn't work for the sports world um but we will be I met with um the assistant business administrator and uh recreation today and we had a great conversation about bringing back the uh advisory board which is a leader two leaders
within all the sports programs recreation that we have in town and getting them back at the table and sitting around the table about three times a year January February and March and coming out with a program so that all of these kids that live here and have recreation programs can have you know a spot at our fields that we pay
for and we maintain team with DPW also on that committee we're going to be removing because we know no longer have it the Jackson roller hockey so I just want to put that on the record because this is a first introduction so that has to be on there and then also we're going to be adding um a recreation for
volleyball and I did speak with a resident about two hours ago and uh I convinced her to be a part of that so I'm super excited about that and then also we're going to have pickle ball as you know we do have a new pickle ball courts and stuff like that so that is something that we're going to be doing
and living leaison is uh councilman Blli and myself so we are recreations um so we would be also on that board and then we'll be looking for residents to put in not applications but just interest a letter of interest to um Anthony Corda
in the recreation department and uh please if you any of these things are of interest of you we'd love to hear from you thank you madam clerk thank you are there any questions or comments by the township council that was it council president just one quick question this committee this
committee has always existed or it's a new committee no actually it's always existed it has not met I believe in over two years it is a mayor appointment committee um I just they just never put it out since I've been on council I have not known about it but now with all of the recent events with the fields and
stuff like that and uh parents reaching out I'm heavily involved in sponsoring a lot of the sports programs within the town so I hear a lot and we just want to make sure that all the kids have you know a field to play on and and get they get utilized and get taken care of um I'm learning a little bit and in the
conversation I had tonight but you know I'm always open to you know learning and I think if we're all at the same table it'll help uh open lines of communication and and one more point the purpose of this ordinance is to put recreation back with DPW the way it was in 2017 yes it will will that will no
longer be its own department head i believe the budget and everything i'll confirm with financing will go under uh Sean Bolinsky and Department of Public Works and then any major projects uh he will oversee such as our pickle ball courts our playgrounds anything like that um and then recreation would be a
division under it would be a division under perfect may I have a motion to approve ordinance 202511 on first reading and introduction and to authorize the notice of the public hearing to be held on May 13 2025 motion second councilman Blli yes
councilman Paul Mary yes councilman Sergeant yes council Vice President Bernstein yes council President Keune yes motion approved the next item of business is first reading and introduction of ordinance 202512 ordinance
2020512 amending chapter 10362 schedule 18 speed limits to include an additional street to be subject to a 25 mph speed limit council President Keun are there any comments on ordinance 202512 yes this ordinance
amends chapter 103-62 schedule 18 of the township code to add Hurley Road to the list of streets within 25 mile uh speed limit the reduction speed limit will apply along the entire length of Hurley Road and Right Deau Road to the Freehold Township border this change is based on
the recommendations from the township engineer and the police department traffic safety bureau are there any questions or comments by the township council may I have a motion to approve ordinance 202512 on first reading and introduction to authorize the notice of the public
hearing to be held on May 13 2025 motion second council member Belli yes councilman Paul Mary yes councilman Sergeant yes council Vice President Bernstein yes council President Keune yes thank you the next item of business
is the first reading and introduction of ordinance 202513 ordinance 202513 amending chapter 3 101.1 entitled director of public safety council President Kun are there any comments on ordinance 202513
yes so I'd like to just give clarity to what this ordinance is the only I just want everybody to hear me only change um is this ordinate amends the public safety director ordinance to establish that the public safety director as the appointed authority instead of the
township business administrator so now when the men and women of our police department have questions about um a policy or procedure they have a point of contact to go for there was a little bit of confusion within the department of who their point of contact was and who
they should go to um for questions and answers and this is amending that and taking care of that concern are there any questions or comments by the township council may I have a motion to approve ordinance 202513 on first reading and introduction
to authorize the notice of public hearing to be held on May 13 2025 motion second council member Belli yes councilman Palary yes councilman Sergeant yes council Vice President Bernstein yes council President Keune yes
the next item of business is payment and authorization of bills and claims i would like to note the following abstensions extensions include Councilman Barlli AE T01 EEO1 New32 NJ04
NJM6 NJ SO4 T R E46 and Council President Cune RCS2 are there any questions or comments by the township council yes okay so at the last council meeting we learned that there was an error that
had been made within the recreation department when questions were raised regarding how the error was would be funded we reviewed the billing and the claims and discovered that the money is being drawn from the open space committee account an account specifically designated for purchasing and preserving open space for our
township to clarify it appears that the entire project could have potentially have been funded through a grant however due to a failure improperly submitting or managing the necessary documents only a portion of that grant was approved which was 70,000 instead of we could
have been awarded the full 120,000 as a lison to the open space committee and representative of the community we feel it is necessary to ask the following and administration i would like these to also be put in the record if they could get back to me tomorrow
how was the decision made to use open space committee funds without any input from the committee or prior review from the council who authorized the use of these funds to correct what appeared to be a departmental error unrelated to land
preservation why was the expense included in the bills and claims list rather than presented as a resolution or change order for council to approve and has been done in similar past situations what transparency and oversight measures are in place to review such decisions
especially when there may be a potential conflict of interest within the departments involved in the bills and claims for the pickle ball there was a payment of $70,000 which had a grief so I'm taking it was grant money and then there was a $20,000 payment that was in
with a T which I believe was taken from in my when I asked that was taken out of open space money so that's the 20 so that is my question in pertaining to bills and claims and that was my only question coun council president let me just ask a quick question you had asked
if the open space committee um has reviewed it correct i'm not on the open space committee this year who who are the two council members on there councilman Burley and myself have you guys met yet this year we absolutely have not it is When's the last time you guys met no pardon when's the last time the open space committee met um I'm
going to say maybe June of last year when I was on it last year correct is there a reason why open space committee is not meeting i mean it's a mayoral committee um there's nothing to you know there's no properties i've asked for a list of properties from the previous business administrator and I was not
granted access to that um there was no new properties submitted for review and there was no meeting on the agenda i'm just going to politely disagree for a second um last year M there's a resident here in the crowd I'm not going to name him who submitted two properties if I remember correctly who used to be on the
committee um and I just wanted if we can check into that um I'll I'll I don't want to put it on the record right now but I'll I'll mention it to you after the meeting okay there was a resident who who put up a piece by the corner of uh I'm forgetting the name of the street by Castle the corner over there and another piece he did send an email last year and I don't think he ever got a
follow-up okay why the town wasn't looking into it that is something that we need to look into yeah if I can that would be in Mr wall's email okay and when we when did this come across so I I'll I'll follow up with the resident after I see them in the crowd that's what that's what reminded me
okay and I would also we we have been asking for a list of all the properties that we do own uh in township because I understand that there is a grant that we need to fix um to consider to receive grants and if we don't get the Vista Center fixed then we are no longer going
to be able to get grant money to purchase parks and recreation it is going to be no longer approved to from from the state to us okay i've been working with Charles and Mr bolinsky with that regularly there's an email i can't get it otherwise I would have brought it um but there is two proposals
that are in there to get it we have a compost center in the in the VISA center that has to be moved um we paid $500,000 upfront we actually bonded it uh about 10 years ago we've paid it off and we never got the money back so the township lost that money plus the bond money so
we are in jeopardy of no longer getting grants you need a list of township own properties yes ma'am thank you may I have a motion to approve the bills and claims with the abstensions noted motion a second council member Belli abstain on the ones
you mentioned Clerk Martin and yes to the rest councilman Paul Mary yes councilman Sergeant yes council Vice President Bernstein yes council President Cune yes thank you the next item of business is the consent
agenda council President Keune are there any resolutions on the consent agenda that you would like to comment on yes i need to read into the record um just because I know we put I believe we got it on the website but it was last minute obviously you know that we've been having email problems then we had a
holiday on Friday um we tried to do the best we can and then our emails went down on Sunday so just for clarity I want to make sure that I read it into the record for um resolution 162-2025 which is um for the authorization for an agreement with
Morgan Engineering for Rova Farms Park Improvements this resolution um is having council to authorize the award contract to Morgan Engineering which is submitted a proposal for the amount of $438,432 so this would include site
engineering drainage design department of public works permitting which takes about over a year a year and a half um architectural plans for a m museum and a stage mechanical electric and plumbing for a bathroom in a museum so just to let you know I know the
$438,000 is actually $100,000 less because we put it out to bid than the previous contractor contracted engineer proposal was which was RVE so we have you know this council have saved $100,000 and we get to bring another historic park and community uh and keep
it into Jackson Township i know that Rova Farms is very dedicated i've been on that committee um it's a wonderful group of people that you know I know this is very important to them so we're happy that we're able to get this onto the agenda finally we did you know hopefully you know you guys are are happy and we were able to do this c
council president if I can just add I'm not on the committee anymore but um I think just as a big thank you to council former councilman Steve Chisum chairman Chisum um he was back and forth Friday right before um I had to power off right before Easter um and he noticed there were a couple things on the initial bid that were missing I think the only thing
which is different than the original RVE bid is the stage instead of the entire theater I think which was based on engineering for traffic safety issues correct um but otherwise I think everything that was initially part of that RVE plan is on there and um I think once this goes forward we're going to
set up a meeting with Councilman Belli yourself and and Mr chisum to Yes move the process forward i told him once this is done you know he can continue and and then you guys can have I know that there was uh questions of getting the plans and stuff there they've got to they've got to start the process and then they'll get the plans and they'll submit
it and Councilman um Chairman uh Stephen Chisum will keep everybody in the loop and as well as myself i talked to him a couple hours ago he couldn't come tonight he had a uh he had a prior engagement and again with the emails being down this is a last minute add-on that's why I wanted to read it into the record so that it was completely trans
council President if I could just add we sent out an email i sent out an email to the committee on Friday asking if anyone had any feedback unfortunately my time I turned my my phone back on after the holiday it's no longer I haven't seen my email since Friday so if anyone did respond I apologize i didn't get a chance to see it um everything's
somewhere in the cloud up there so we hope and it's not coming down so we've been told it's not coming down so so um I just have one more that I have to read into the record if there's any any more comments for Rob i had one comment on this resolution which I'm I'm actually happy to see that the vast majority of
what was asked for in that committee is being done uh prior to me sitting on this council I was listening in and last year this looked a lot different yes it was like $50,000 correct and it was gutted the entire committee all their
work was gutted yes and I know uh you know Councilman Chisum was passionate about this as well as that committee and I'm very thankful for all the work they did and I'm happy to see that this was able to be put back in because I think this is very important what changed from literally 6 months ago till today um
Councilman uh Bernstein and myself um just to be transparent with you we realize if an engineer is appointed and they're on a project if we can get a proposal and we can get a resolution done we can put it on the agenda and we did and council president if I could add there's a lot of myths out there about
this form of government council does control the purse we were told that we didn't but once we learned that we did and the engineer did exist and he was approved the vendor we had the authority as per our legal counsel to put it on the agenda so that's what we just did and we decided not to wait any longer and we rushed it Friday we knew once we
had the momentum on council just to move forward and not to hold back any longer because I think everyone in there has been waiting quite quite off quite long well I'm happy to see this so this is great we are too believe me it was a lot of hard work um and that's how you'll see Johnson Park and the Vista Center
moving forward um in the future so we're super excited that you know we're able to bring this and and do what we do up here council President if I may I want to thank some of the Roa Park Committee members who are here in the audience tonight i do see them and um just want
to thank you for your hard work and persistence and your vision on this park and I'm glad to see it uh you know moving forward looking forward to working with council uh mayor administration and professionals and um seeing it come to fruition so thank you
thank you yay [Applause] all right so next one is resolution 16320-25 this is reaffirming land use application requirements so in doing
some due diligence we just wanted to make sure when you put an application in front of the planning or the zoning board your taxes have to be paid to date so that is currently on the books but apparently that's not being abided by so we just wanted to reaffirm and update this resolution and send it out to the
secretaries and the boards and all of that and make sure that whereas despite the um adoption of the ordinance it has come to the attention of the council that applications are not submitting all the required documents which leads to delay as well as scheduling the an
application which otherwise makes them uneligible for public hearing due to the delinquent and whereas requires an application for a minor subdivision approval to submit proof from the tax office that real estate taxes and local assessments are paid to date before an application is deemed
complete i would just like to read that into the record council President here's another example of the Doge just finding things just Exactly and I wrote it right on there just finding you know inefficiency um I' I've mentioned this before but we need the applications if you're going to put an application in front of our boards even though it's not
us we are not the zoning or the planning board but we do create resolutions and we do believe in the doge and we do believe in diving into government inefficiency and that's another case of it are there any questions or comments additionally by the township council no
ma'am may I have a motion to authorize the cons excuse me yes uh uh madam clerk I that item isn't on the agenda so we should treat it as an add-on um that's why I read it to the record yeah I think we should be clear that that it's being read in as an add-on oh absolutely you
want to vote it on separately attorney no no just you should just state that it's a Okay this is being stated as an add-on i just found it about an hour before the meeting i sat in the clerk's office and she whipped me up a resolution to again reaffirm land use so this is add-on to the agenda resolution
163-2025 um do I have to read the whole thing oh then yeah it was provided and it's been available with the Okay perfect thank you and council president this will be given to the planning and zoning office correct it will be given we're going to give it to all the board
members as well as the uh chairs of the committees and the attorneys and whoever else needs it to make sure that it is followed and this came from meeting with uh department head uh Mr maher he is uh a dear friend of mine and he came and sat in the clerk's office and he's been tracking me down and he said "Please
please please." And we looked into it the clerk was great enough to realize that we had it and uh we were able to get it on so thank you madame clerk again thank you may I have a motion to authorize the consent agenda
resolutions 153 through 163 2025 of 163 2025 as stated by council president Cune as an add-on motion second councilman Belli yes councilman Paul Mary yes councilman Sergeant yes council
Vice President Bernstein yes and I want a special thank you to our professionals who worked Friday we had told them there was a deadline of 3:00 on Friday we knew the whole committee was waiting and they didn't stop there was even an edit and they worked till about 5:00 Friday afternoon so we appreciate it yes everything council President Ke I mimic
that yes thank you to our professionals and yes to all of them thank you at this time if any member of the public has any comments to make please address the council at the microphone and state your name and address clearly for the record you'll have five minutes and may
only speak once may I have a motion to open public comment mo second all in favor i any opposed thank you so you can hear me good evening um my name is Jim Seleia i live on Harfield Drive uh I missed the last council
meeting but I did watch it and I feel obligated to at least say what I have to say based on what I witnessed during that meeting uh it's in regards to one of the resolutions where we reduced the salaries of the uh mayor and the council
president not disappointed that we reduced it but the comment that was made when Mr melli voted against it by our council president was if we have a opportunity to reduce salaries that supported by our
residents in one single vote we should be doing it and that sounds great my question is how come on this exact same well not the exact same because Mr paul Mary wasn't here last year this council 80% of it and Mr again Mr belli voted
against it increased the salaries over $300,000 so I would think that should have paid more we should have paid more attention to why we're increasing it so much instead of oh this is a great idea we're reducing it 35,000 i also wonder
based on looking at the salary ranges there was a position that was given a 17.5% increase and it equal 35,000 um in my brain did they did they do that to offset that salary increase i don't know
um it's just the way I saw it secondly the ordinance tonight uh 20 2025-13 you made a statement that it's only changed to uh make him the
appropriate authority i did a comparison of this ordinance as it is written today compared to the ordinance that is posted on the Jackson Township website that statement is not completely true okay
one of the things in the old ordinance had who he reported to this does not also along the lines here if you go to the ordinance as it's written uh section B number 10 it says
uh shall be responsible for all hiring promotions resources allocations blah blah blah then it goes on and says "This shall include the daily duties of all police officers within such positions and duty assignments." The very next sentence says "The daily duties of all
police officers within such positions and duty assignments shall be the responsibility of the chief of police." Who is it you just stated in in this ordinance that two people have the exact same role
well Director Candido oh can you stop my time if you're going to go down this no no go ahead continue because I don't want to stop your time okay because I'm still on this yeah the other thing I noticed is this one has and this is showing that there the division consists
of 130 police officers yes the ordinance that I read the old one said 110 okay so okay go ahead but you're there's you're looking at the wrong one but so my question becomes if there was a increase what is the impact of that increase to
the township budget okay those are my questions on that ordinance and then I have one more item and basically is the township budget where is it we are now on April 22nd and M Mr pullman I I would
look to you who is re who oversees the townships to make sure that the budgets are completed on a timely fashion is it the local govern governance board that what you want is that all your questions because I we're not going to
go back well the reason I asked it is because if I if I read their comments okay the local finance board I think that's who it is correct there it says municipal budgets submissions must be done by March 7th municipal introduction
and approval must be completed and these are new dates they which they adjusted back in December must be completed by March 31st municipal adoption must be completed by April 30th we're now on April we're April
22nd i have not seen the budget being introduced it's not posted anywhere what are we doing there and did we get an extension because we've lost so many people that were working on it you know let's see the transparency come
out and explain to the people of this town no problem so I I'm going to answer your question regarding the public safety director so the 110 that you're looking that I don't know where you saw that but that is actually it's you go out and look at the the So it's incorrect so I can tell you it's 130
because we found that error and that was done so I don't know where that came that I'm going to get and I can I'm going to let everybody else answer your questions and then what I'm going to do is I am going to email you the response in regards to the public safety director because I want to make sure we the person that wrote the ordinance it had
knee surgery so our attorney so we have um we but do you have you have your ordinance in front of you and that comment looks like two different people have I'm going to look at it once they answer your budget questions and once other councilmen so go ahead so I'm just going to answer with regard to the the part of the answer to the budget and
then turn I'm ask Novak to fill me in any pieces I'm missing the council got a copy of the budget i my understanding is that we are um we asked for an extension the council got a copy of the budget last week um we have a new CF we had a we have a temporary CFO actually who worked in it and he did get an extension
we were told council was told obviously to review it um our emails have been off since Friday afternoon so we we definitely have some feedback and comments to give to the administration to hopefully put together a budget that passes um but we just got it i think it was t Thursday was it was Thursday yeah
I picked mine up Thursday afternoon before I had to go off so we just got it i think the reason why administration is a little later because because of the change and they got approval from the state to have a have a delay is that correct uh the auditor's aware of it he's going to be working with the state but he said they are very respect we were we were told the state has no problem with it so we're hoping within
the next month so is that not something that the public should be made aware of at some point you you talk about transparency all the time that's something absolutely very very very very into disagreement with administration pertain to the budget we both talk at the same time because I
can't hear okay council president sorry we we've been very transparent that we are not in agreements with administration pertaining to the budget and that's why we haven't introduced it yet no you haven't i have not heard that at a council meeting yet I think abs absolutely council member we haven't we just got it Thursday there are
definitely areas that we are going to we are going to be making suggestions for some changes which is our duty under the Faulner Act and um so that's where that's where the budget is now there's never transparency that we had gone out for a an additional time
extension based on what the local finance board requested miss Novak could we could we get some information from from the mayor about that so we can notify the public sure just a question council President when it term when it comes to budget and extensions isn't that fall on administration shouldn't administration be the one to tell the
public i mean I I understand that council has meetings every two weeks and we have you know our assistant BA but that should come directly from the administration 100% and that's fine and all I'm and basically where I come from is last year when it was presented administration came to the council we
don't Yeah we don't have a BA right now so I understand that that's why I understand that you probably but no one knew i I'm going to tell you I didn't know so I see this and go we're on April 22nd April 30th it has to be you know adopted you guys better move quick get
your email get the Thank you we appreciate you eleanor Hannam Jackson New Jersey um first I'd like to point out the fact that um there is something called the Sunshine Law i know you all think that you're abiding by the Open Public
Meetings Act appropriately um there's a lot of confusion or the fact that you just don't know what you're doing so according to NJSA 10 col4-8 adequate notice adequate notice means given
advanced notice of at least 48 hours given giving the time date location and to the extent known the agenda of any regular special or rescheduled meeting so therefore to get I don't know 24
hours notice of an agenda it is not meeting the law um I'd also like to point out Mort's comment with the budget um it was not my oper request but
residents do talk residents do share and a resident did share with me um an oper request that as I went through it found it very very interesting uh based on the conversation going back
with Terren Wall and Morty Bernstein it became very very clear what was going on it became very very clear that Morty was um pushing his agenda for the budget um
what I had read Mr wall went back and forth because Mr bernstein kept on questioning about getting rid of code enforcement in this email exchange and Mr wall kept on advising to him that they are public servants so you
cannot just do that and of course the question came again and then uh Morty turns around and asks for the statute he does provide that and then it comes from Morty about doing so in a different
fashion and with that Mr wall responds if this is what council is giving you or telling you you're being ill advised i think the residents should be well aware of that when it comes to Roa Farms
um I will point out that it is this council that chose to remove me from the Roa Farms committee the only one that lived on that lake because of your aminus and because of your discrimination against me it was very
clear so when it comes to the Roforms Committee and what you're choosing to do I just want to point out that years ago there was a referendum to the Jackson taxpayers to allow a 3% tax
increase to their property taxes for open space for preservation what I did do an over request for the open space trust fund what I discovered is that two years ago we had
5.9 million we now have 3.9 million and what I also discovered as they said that there's a committee to make decisions and things like that there is hundreds of thousands of dollars since your last meeting that has
been spent from the open public the open space committee trust fund so therefore is this somebody's slush fund because all these improvements that you're saying that you have done no these are the taxpayers money that you
are using to do these parks so give the public the credit because it's our money not yours when it comes to Roa Farms and the $400,000 that you're looking to now put
into it i sat in meetings after I was removed from the ROA committee and I sat there and I listened to Morty turn around and say it's not happening i actually sat there in a meeting when Jen Cune here screamed at Marina that it's
not happening get over it so all this is is your public uh political sham so that people like you again um also when it comes to the consent order I've been helping residents that have been complaining
about uncompliant residential homes that are being used for other than a residence i do understand our LOPA i do know how our LOPA does work but they were provided a pathway under the consent order that they are supposed to
go in front of a land use board and to comply so not to disturb the neighbors so the neighbors have been filing or calling complaining so now they're being given Thank you ma'am your time is a complaint from the consent order it's
illegal and unconstitutional thank you ma'am [Music] tom Smith Whitesville Road in Jackson uh I've been a resident on Whitesville Road in the PM1 zone for 36 years uh I bought
a house that was built in 1940 for 60,000 it was assessed at 90 assessments changed over the years i understand it went from 90 to 250 to 350 and now with the latest reassessment it went to 650 so back in November
um I sent the inquiry to the property appraisal company for information on how they arrived at the assessment only because the PM1 is is it's unique it's not for residential use anymore so we're a grandfathered in lot non-conforming so
my property can't be used for a PM1 development in the future it's only good for what it's used for now which is our long-term residence i I can't hear you sir just talk a little bit sure it's only used for what uh it's it's only can be used for the current residential use
grandfathered in okay it's it's not a conforming lot of the acreage and frontage that somebody could purchase it and build something that's a PM1 use current okay so I know in December the tax assessor came before the council and outline the process go to the go to the
realy company that did the appraisals or come to my office so when I went to the appraisal company they sent me back to the township um I sent several emails i didn't get responses i called the office and I don't like to do things by phone because then I have to take notes and it's I don't have a good record and I
was told I had to do an OPER request to get the information about how my tax assessment was derived so I filed a very broad oper request uh to try to capture anything they had and after a month the response was there's no responsive records they
had nothing so then I started sending additional inquiries i think between November and now I've maybe sent six inquiries probably uh spaced apart i started sending inquiries to the tax assessor read and return receipt
the response to that was to contact my employer and saying he's contacting my superiors because my inquiries are made during business hours and that should be a problem for
my employer and do you work for the town i'm sorry you you work for Jackson Township no no I'm not a No I don't I don't understand that response then i I got to be honest with you i don't understand this is all in emails and I what I really want to get from the
you're speaking to our tax and even personally like well you have I looked back in 2018 and you have a development fee you never paid which is not true i wouldn't have got a building permit if I didn't pay a development fee he was just going out of his way over here and here to try to find things
what's your address i know I heard 520 Whitesville Road it's 22301 lot 13 okay and I did try to contact the business administrator about this we don't have one i know she did call me today said I'm absolutely swamped and so
she did respond but I I wanted to come here about this because like at this point what do I do i actually I want to actually what's my avenue to complain about this behavior from the tax assessor to to go to my employer that's just like the the
wackiest thing I've heard of yeah rather than just say either the information exists or it doesn't so the last email from this week I said "Look please just confirm one way or the other." And the response was "I sent you the card which is like the size of the house and lot
with the with the assessment." And he said "That's the only information you're entitled to." And this is all documented in email so if anyone wants to refute it I'd be happy to provide the whole package could you could you after I mean we don't have email we don't have email but we'll give you our card when you see a press release that our emails back up
if you can send an email and council president will support the attorney no I'm not absolutely not so I'm not giving I have my email we have our phone numbers on there the town will put out a press release when when our emails are back on and then if you can send it to council president she'll forward to the town attorney and I'll look into it yeah
well I'm going to because I know the I know Mr maher very well and it doesn't sound like that's a response that he would give um so I will astounded i just No no no we'll look into it maybe I everybody has a bad day i wasn't even filing an appeal or challenging it i just wanted to know how did you come up
with this number because it's a unique zone there's only I think 17 properties and 11 of them I think are residential and the rest have moved into manufacturing uses so it's I just wanted to know how they came up with that assessment listen you have the right to ask a question absolutely so what we're
going to do is because your time's going to be up in 11 seconds i'm going to give you my card if you if you don't mind waiting till we're we're over and then we'll we'll be in touch okay thank you thank you sir hello again Don Adelman 206 will point
um I got a few things on here um the changing the police director from the administrator when the police officers have policy questions is a horrible idea as it is right now they need civilian oversight trusting that man who doesn't
understand the first amendment civil rights and in criminalizes acts constitutionally protect activities after the fact should not be the one that officers should go to when they have questions um next I'm a poll worker
ocean County Board of Elections needs pole workers i don't know if it's possible for you guys to work with the I guess the high school district any seniors who are 18 and older if they want to have a nice day and may probably get something that they use for college
uh applications they could work the uh polls it's pays $300 for the day and more if you do some online training um I'd like to know who to speak to about traffic lights when I tried calling the police department about it to even ask
who to contact I got a condescending response and the operators well let's just say it stinks from the head down and well the head is so ashamed he won't even look at me half the head how about that um your email system sucks so does
your voicemails because well a couple meetings ago I spoke with the uh the under business business administrator you know uh and I said I was going to send a couple quick emails i'm assuming
that unlike maybe some other people I may be suspicious of who may not respond i'm assuming you just didn't get them i still have outstanding issues that need help and now it's become a timeritical thing so I don't know what we could do about that but it is an issue um but
check the email system because going back it's been a problem all right um not knowing about the the laws in this town the legally mandated committees like the ADA committee you and I spoke about it's great and I did say you know I like I did see the email you sent over to Mayor Raina but I don't know what's
happening with that me either what was that i'm waiting for a response okay and then the last thing is I just got back uh every year I go to Oklahoma for the memorial for the Oklahoma bombing because I have family that was lost in the bombing came back
and found mice in my house um similar to my issue that I had with my toilet where had I called the town earlier I might have gotten greater help did you say mice mice like Mickey like Mickey M you know field mice yeah little little mice
okay um I don't know if andor what the town could do for me to help make sure that this gets taken care of quickly i uh my girlfriend is a cop
and I thought she was good i thought either she was being killed or what all I came out I heard a blood curdling scream i saw her with her weapon in hand and she was freaking out because Mickey and Minnie decided to come say hello as she was getting stuff uh for breakfast
can I ask a question for a second yeah Mr um did you say that Mickey and Minn are you bring this to the town's attention because of like a landlord like we have a rent level no it's because of where I live the landlord rental committee and all that have can't
help me they can't do anything about and this is something that just popped up i it's a I guess it's a health and safety concern that I may need help getting addressed so that it does get addressed quickly okay um Okay when I called my property manager today to let her know what was happening she said she was
going to reach out to the exterminator but the exterminator may not get back to her till tomorrow afternoon okay i don't want to let this go all right my girlfriend because last time I sent code enforcement Miss Mr wall worked on it we sent code enforcement out there yeah well Mr wilton refuses to even answer my questions for the simple fact that he
doesn't understand due to the emergent nature of it that uh Mr campbell the plumbing inspector came out to my home on a Saturday and because Well can you explain that to Mr wilton because he absolutely refuses to believe that and because that he will not take my phone call he will not take my phone call i
know for a fact and if he does pick up the phone he hangs up okay so we're going to we're This is a lot to take in because you're talking about weapons and Mickey Mouse and Minnie Mouse and I I'm just trying to crash my head around i I thought I was walking out to the Texas Jaw masker this morning i literally I
was jetlagged and she is fre you know she's half-dressed getting ready for work okay let's keep it let's All right is there any questions that you have cuz I I wrote them down i'm going to get back to you i guess right now uh the traffic light thing i got that you You're gonna traffic safety email we got
that the mice thing i've got the mice and oh just one other thing um with the uh with the credit card fees i was thinking about it since you're saying a lot of people don't have the cash or anything maybe you could do something to the effect of if it's a small amount like a same as cash kind of deal like
petty cash yeah like you know like say $50 or under whatever it is you wave the fee but if anybody comes to pay like their property taxes where it's a couple thousand we waved that they could pay your property tax you get you know yes we did that sir have a great night all right thank you sir
you did right i'm all along 50 year resident of Jackson 30 years teacher of Jackson looking at the um little place by the lake which used to be Roa Farms
it's such a joy to finally realize that it's going to become a part alive again i came my parents and I came to the United States with the second wave
of immigrants in the 19 early 1950s we had eight dollars with us and a 300pb wooden box we settled in Jersey City it was
hard didn't know the language didn't have any money no jobs on and on and finally a few years later somebody told us about Jackson and in it Roa
Farms and it became a haven to so many people including my parents we came here the the Russians have built this place but by then you had many many
nationalities Ukrainians white Russian Czechoslovakian Yugo Yugoslavian Romanians even and they all came here for the music for the dancing swimming boating
picnics here you can discuss your religion you can have arguments you and have laughter and so during the weekend you came alive again you had something to catch on to and you went back on Monday or Sunday night and you were
ready ready to face your new life i think that Jackson has a lot of history and we're just raking over it over and over there are many old families many generations that lived in
Cassville Jackson which is the area we're in now and let's remember the past because these are the people that helped build Jackson when Jackson was
uh pig farmers and chicken farmers miles and miles of woods these people helped build it let's give them credit now let's build a beautiful park where we can have music and swimming and boating and
concerts and I'm glad the decision was finally made thank you thank you ma'am [Applause] deb Jones Heisen Road um I just I'm not
really sure why we're even talking about this whole thing with the safety officer the chief at the last meeting when someone asked you guys something your response was "We can't discuss it we're still in
litigation." As far as I know nothing's been done with that so therefore everything I see you guys are waiting for a day in court so I'm not sure why we're doing all of this when
we're not even sure how that's going to play out and by doing this and correct me if I'm wrong but it seems to me that there's no real chain of command if you have in here some things are for the chief of
police some things are for the public safety which they all are the same thing doesn't make any sense and you're going to change things for what why aren't we waiting what is the rush we have a chief whether
people like him or don't like him he is the one who is the head of our police force you don't like that then find a better way to do something than just trying to mask it cuz it's not fair i
don't think I should have to pay for two people to do the same job and apparently they're doing it at the same time it's got to be confusing and also I want to say what someone already said because you know
that I've said to you that the way you talk to people it's snarky it's sassy it was embarrassing to watch you go against somebody because they didn't vote the way you wanted to vote
and that to me is very telling whether you meant it to come out that way or not it did and sometimes our true colors come out when we're pushed to anger and that's not fair everyone up here should be voting
by how they feel not by what's coming down from them it's not right you know you've made comments to me that you've seen my Facebook you've never seen me say anything negative that I haven't been willing to come here and say to your face and that goes for
everyone up here i've never played dirty and it's a little sad that I feel like every time I look at these agendas you guys might be trying to do the best thing for Jackson but your record doesn't show it so people aren't going
to trust it you haven't given them anything to trust you've given certain people things to trust you've protected certain rights and certain freedoms you haven't protected all of our freedoms and this I'm going to direct straight to
you because Yes i I'm sorry I didn't say my name i didn't know that's okay i'm looking right at you okay i just wanted to make sure your family has been in this town for years i would I was going to ask if you can keep my family out of this please well let me finish what I'm saying because I'm not bringing my
family in my family out of anything please are they not residents have they not been residents i I don't want to bring my family in on any comments please well maybe that's because they're embarrassed that you're annaliating this town you're You're making this town a disgrace thank you
[Applause] good evening Eric Jones Heisen Road um I just have um when you guys brought the thing about the speed limit um you said you changed it on that one road change the speed limit we lowered it okay i thought the
process was to go to the state to change a speed limit am I wrong i'm It was given to us from our township engineer and our police department as a request and it was sent to our attorney and he created it and sent it and approved it so I'm taking it our attorney would know
somebody went to the state i just said the attorney created the ordinance and sent it over so okay cuz I thought you had to go that's the proper channels that council goes through all right do we go by the representation of our attorney i just find it funny because that's like a back road like it's almost dirt we've get we get a lot
of complaints on it well I get a lot of complaints on my road they're doing 70 um I want my speed limit lowered at least a portion of our road would be nice i live on the bend accelerate decelerate accelerate decelerate that's
all they do every day is race day on Heist Road and not just that since I guess Jackson doesn't want to be out on 195 because technically a state highway but yet I see Howell out there I see Wall Township out there i see many
municipalities out on 195 so I get race day on Heist Road in the front and race day on 195 in the back that's all we get but anyway if you could do something about Heist Road I know it's a county road but they could at least lower the speed limit where it
is narrow by me they come around the bend and they punch it i already had one neighbor got sideswiped making a left-hand turn into her driveway because people are so impatient these days the other question The other question I have is um the
traffic light at Fremont on Hope uh Hope Chapel why council President if I could ask I I I sent the mayor an email asking the same question i haven't gotten an answer yet i was told the county requested it when I reached out and I sent the email i'm waiting for an answer also does anybody here realize what that
road goes to yep it was the Renaissance which is not even in Jackson correct we're aware that's ridiculous if they want to put a traffic light in put one by Faraday in Whitesville i don't know if anybody's ever tried to get out of there forget it it that's in the works
but it's Yeah well I got I see some good spots where traffic lights are going up and then you think to your scratch your head you go why like uh they're trying to put one at Harmony and Heisen i agree with that because that's just ridiculous people don't know what to do at a four-way stop you got to go back to
school um the other question I had was um which you're probably not going to allow me to talk about it is on my block 780 heist i'm sure I've talked to the clerk about it and it's I keep hitting the wall all right this place has been operating since 2023
illegally now they just went to the planning board to change from residency to a house of worship which it's technically not going to be a house of worship i'll tell you why because I can't attend if the door ain't open to
everybody it's a club it's all it is it's a club i went to the town here i asked them i said "How many of these houses are registered as houses of worship?" One
why is that they don't want you in the building they don't want you to know what's going on in there that's just facts everything's hush hush and it's a club the other question I have which I keep getting stonewalled just by you
guys and also the county is stonewalling me i want to know excuse me I want to know if these e-roof lines are insured power lines are insured verizon
lines are insured just in case something happens to person or property i cannot get an answer from anybody they're stringing these things up all over the place if something comes down and takes a child off a bicycle because they can't see it which you
cannot see them and if you know what they're made of they're made of Kevlar kevlar you cannot break you need a knife to cut it and nobody's going to go around cutting these things down because you'll be accused of being
something this tree came down across the street from me on the side street and one of those of us crossed and I was walking my dog i didn't even see the thing i had to tie a rag to it so somebody on a bicycle wouldn't come down the road and get thrown off the bicycle without
seeing that anything a motorcycle a car whatever they don't They don't break it'll bend poles they'll bend they'll bend poles those those poles that they on you can drop something on them and the pole will bend the string will not break thank you
sir i wrote down an answer i'll I wrote down the question all right thank you seeing Seeing no one else come forward and make a motion to close public comment second i I motion to close
yes motion i Thank you