under God, indivisible, liberty and justice for all. [Music] >> Good evening and welcome to the September 25th, 2025 regular meeting of the Jackson Township Council. Pursuant to the provision of the New Jersey Open
Public's Meeting Act, adequate notice of this meeting was properly provided by transmitting a notice of the meeting on January 28, 2025 for publication. Notice of this meeting of the township council has been posted in the corridor of the municipal building and in the office of the municipal clerk. We will begin with
a roll call. Councilman Blli >> here. >> Councilman Breie >> here. >> Councilman Paul Mary, >> present. >> Council Vice President Bernstein >> here. >> Council President Cune >> here. You have a quorum. Also present this evening is attorney Mr. McGucken,
administrator Phillips, Veronica Dagner, and myself, Municipal Clerk Martin. We will now hear opening comments from the township council, starting with Council President Q. Thank you, Madam Clerk. So, I just want to be fully transparent. Um, I just got into an
accident on my way here and my truck was totaled, so I'm a little shaken up. So, if I'm a little off K, I do apologize. I didn't want to miss a meeting as I've never missed one. So, um, I just wanted to let you guys know if I'm a little off my game, it's just because my truck just got put on a forklift. Um, all right.
So, I wanted to go, if you could look at the pictures, this is something that I saw that's in our town. Um, I saw it on social media actually. No, um, the kids um, and I wanted to read something and it says, "What an incredible journey it's been over the last few weeks with
the kids farm stand. It's all began with selling our extra garden vegetables on a folding table. This stand has empowered Ava and Lucas with the invaluable life lesson that goes far beyond the classroom. Every day they're engaged with customers, developing their financial skills and unlocking their
creative potential to enhance, organize, and decorating their stand. We would like to extend our heart well heartfelt gratitude to each and every one of you who visited their stand, shared their post, printed their signs, and offered your unwavering support over the past five weeks. The community spirit is
truly inspiring, and thank you. So, I called this parent uh today and I asked if I could put these pictures up here of his little kids um Lucas and Ava and just to I share it all the time and I love it. I This is Jackson. Um this is going on. You can go and still get fresh fruits and vegetables um from kids
stands and I um going to share their location. You'll see them out there every weekend. This is their job and after school and it's located at 869 Lake Avenue in Jackson. And they're open every day from dawn to dusk. if kids aren't present at the time, there's a
cash box as well as a VMO Venmo link. Thank you. So, I just think it's really adorable to see kids at such age uh doing that. They're they're five uh six to nine. So, um it's very cute. All right, on to some township business that I was asked. We had a little change up
in our traffic safety, but I've now got I'm starting to get the reports again regarding um what is that? regarding traffic safety that's going on. Thank you. Yep. Not those plans yet. We're not on Roa yet. That's going to be uh at the
resolutions. All right. So, traffic, we have reports. All right. So, on Susan Drive northbound, uh 85% of the time people are going 31 miles an hour. Average speed is 24 and there's 547 cars going
down northbound on Susan Drive. Southbound there's an average per day of 589 cars going down the road. Hartfield Drive speed limit is 25 and 85% is 29 miles an hour. Average speed is 24 miles an hour. Average car per day is 504 cars
uh vehicles going down. Linda Drive it's a speed limit of 25. 85% is 36 miles an hour. Average speed is 28. The average daily cars going down that road is 1,079. Uh on Andover road speed limit is 25.
85% of the time it's 33 miles an hour. Average speed is 28. Um volume per day is 1,095. Matita Conch trail uh we just had an accident there. Um speed limit was 20 is is 25 miles an hour. Average is 37 miles
an hour for 85% of the time. Average is 30. Average cars going through that road is,039. So I just wanted to give those updates again. Uh, next, which is a great thing, uh, administration, thank you so much. They hired another crossing guard. This crossing guard is at Buckingham and
Birmingham Drive and Flare. Uh, very, very much needed and I'm happy to see when this came across the desk, ISAS, where the crossing guard was located because it definitely needs it over there. Um, we have roadway improvements. Um, Metalwoods Road is being improved.
Cross Farms Road, Christian Way, Connor Road, Polebrook Court, uh Sutter Court, Ocean A, Gold Weber Avenue, Laurel Avenue, Tilford Street, Beacon Street, Dogwood Drive, uh Tulip Court, Maplewood
Place, Fur uh Court, Galassi Court, and Linda Drive. These are all this pertains to the 2024 roadway improvement program, which um will include paving and milling. So, if you didn't get any of those roads, please let me know and I'll be happy to forward to you. I'm trying
to speak slow. Um, next we have municipal aid applications that are do we're doing with our grant writers, the status report. We have a municipal aid grant that we're putting for Manhattan Street and South Cooksbridge Road and Bennett Mills. We
have a safe streets roads application going out that is planning for this month for demolition projects and municipal owned roads. Um the application has been submitted. We are awaiting for the announcement. We are doing the COP hiring program looking to approximately 21 new officers included
in this grant program. Application submitted. We're waiting for the announcement. We have the community energy plant grant program that the application is submitted and we're waiting for um the announcement. We have uh proposals in progress which is the
justice complex was $92,000. I just had that meeting uh yesterday. So, we are allocating that. We do have we're waiting for Mr. Bolinsky to come back to let everybody know where that money will be going. And then we have open space and recreation master plan um is on the agenda tonight to be approved to begin
the five-year plan for the uh open space. Then we have a body warn uh camera application that's being funded. We're looking for $2 million in that and that would be a 50% match. So, we're waiting to see if we get that. That's all. Thank you so much and have a great
night, >> Council Vice President Bernstein. >> Thank you. I just want to take a moment and again thank all of our municipal employees, all of the volunteers, all the residents for coming out on Jackson Day. It was a phenomenal phenomenal experience. Um it was great to see so
many of you and looking forward to next year's Jackson Day already. And I think I they plan on having their meetings shortly and getting that ball rolling for next year. So, thank you to everyone. Um the um a couple residents reached out with different issues
pertaining to some county county roads. Um just a quick update. I there was a county meeting today. They usually have it on Wednesday. He had it today. Um the mayor called me right after to update me that the county is looking at Brewers Bridge Road. Um finally getting that light that turning signal which is long
overdue. Additionally, they are looking at the intersection of Louisiana Parkway and South New Prospect, which is is just a nightmare sometimes or many times. And they are looking at at possibly turning it um um making some improvements over there. I still haven't gotten the plans
yet, so I don't want to say much, but the county did discuss it today at their meeting and they will update us. Um I think council president mentioned also um ROVA. I just got an email from the engineer >> and um and >> that's the plans, the concept plan. >> Just an update on 9:16 um the community
building conceptual floor plan was to provide it to Mr. Chisum the chair. 9:19 he met with the committee chair and um to go over the plans on 108 at 1 p.m. there's tentatively scheduled a comm a meeting to to discuss them and um
obviously after that we will keep everyone updated. The next ROVA I guess subcommittee meeting is scheduled for October 8th. Um, and we will keep everyone updated. Um, as everyone may have seen, and um, I don't like talking politics too much,
but there was a big debate this week. Um, and I'm reminding everyone, the polls are closer than anyone ever anticipated at this point. Please go out and vote. Your vote does make a difference. Um, lastly, I'm just going to apologize in advance. At about 7:40 tonight, I'm going to take a few minute break. I am fasting. Today is a the fast
of son gadalia. So if I leave for five, six minutes, it's just to have a coffee. I don't mean to be rude to anyone and have a quick piece of cake in the back and I will come right back out. Thank you and have a good night. >> Council member. >> Thank you, Clerk Martin. Um
just Oh jeez. Again. Can everyone hear me? All right. Um military appreciation day um is going to be held in our town. Uh they held it last year in August. Very hot out. It was a great turnout though and um we are very promilitary,
one of the most patriotic of towns around. So um just wanted to inform residents of uh military appreciation day for all of those who have served um who are currently serving in our armed forces who are uh keeping our great country safe uh and secure 24/7 and uh
we just owe them such a a debt of gratitude. So, a list of events that will be uh occurring. Last year, they had this too. It's a static uh helicopter display. There's a touch-in truck, you know, live band will be also uh playing arts and crafts and um you know, there'll be food and drink there.
So, it's going to be held at again the Knights of Columbus on Bartley Road and that will be on Saturday, October uh 4th. And um of course, military veterans free admission. General $20 emission. of 12 to six year olds, it's $10 and five
and under are for free. So, I wanted to uh share that information with you. And um like council vice president Bernstein mentioned, we have very important elections coming up in November that will um dictate the state um the direction of our state uh for the next
several years. So, it's really important that people uh get out and vote and encourage others to vote as well. register to vote, help to register others to vote and take part in this uh great democracy we have in our country. Good seeing you all. Take care and have a good evening,
>> Councilman Brassie. >> Thank you. I I really like the way the meeting started tonight with the uh pictures of those young kids working at an early age on the food stands. That was really something and it shows what Jackson's about. Uh, I would like to see a good turnout for the military
appreciation day that the Councilman Belli was just talking about. It's always good to go out and just support our veterans and active duty uh soldiers and and service people. Um, I'm glad to see that some of the detours in town are
finally done. I have to say Township pushed what they could, the county pushed what they could and they got tied up, but they got done. And I think it's very encouraging hearing that more projects are on the way and our roads are being taken. For so many years, the county kind of like left us with a
lonely child and they seem to be doing more work. I look forward to that. Thank you for coming out. Have a great night and safe trip home. >> Councilman Paul Mary. >> Thank you. Good evening. I would just like to mention that last week I had the distinct pleasure of attending the grand opening and ribbon cutting ceremony for
Elms Elementary School's beautiful new outdoor environmental learning center and garden. A truly remarkable space for students to explore, learn, and grow. This was all made possible through a grant from sustainable New Jersey and spearheaded by Miss Brener, a proud
recipient of the prestigious national milk teacher award. I would like to congratulate Miss Brener, the entire Elms staff, and the dedicated green team for a job well done. And if I could just say, if you have not already registered to vote, you can register up until
October 14th. So, please do so. If you know someone who has not, please encourage them to do so by or before October 14th. Thank you. >> The next item for tonight's meeting is an update from the Department of Public Works, Mr. Shan Bolinsky. Council
President Hume. >> Thank you, Madam Clerk. The Department of Public Works is continuing to haul compost from the facility to prepare for the upcoming leaf collection season. As residents need compost for their gardens, please come by and get as much as you need. Our crews are also working
closely with the engineering department on a comprehensive townwide storm water basin inspection and mapping project. This initiative will help improve drainage and water management throughout the township. We have completed one full pass of street sweeping on all the
township roads. Sweepers will continue to operate through the late fall to help keep our roadways clean and safe. The Jackson Jungle playground will temporarily be closed to the public as we support the local uh Eagle Scout candidate in completing their project uh
their service project. As part of this project, they will um be repainting various features in the park, including outdated animal and butterfly structures. We appreciate the community support and understanding during this temporary closure. Mark your calendars. Our annual townwide community cleanup
will take place on Saturday, November 2nd. We invite all the local nonprofit organizations to participate. If your organization is interested in joining, please reach out to me to ensure you're added to the list. Thank you for your
continued support. >> Thank you. >> The next item for tonight's meeting >> is this. >> Oh, I apologize. >> No, no, no, no. Do you want me to read them into the record now? >> Absolutely. >> Is that okay? Just before we get into ordinances. >> Thank you, ma'am. Okay. So, we have um
we had to on our bill list, we added postage in the amount of to get out the um the company will need to be released for the tax bills. they will not send them out until they get paid for postage and it's $12,300. So that's been added to the bill list.
So we just wanted to let everybody know. And then also we have resolution 306-2025. This resolution authorizes the township council uh to convey a special meeting for the purpose of selecting a mayor to fill the unexpired term of Mayor Michael
Rea. Whereas the township of Jackson, county of Ocean, state of New Jersey is organized under the law of state of New Jersey and governed under the township council. And whereas mayor Michael Reena has resigned from the office of mayor, thereby creating a vacancy in the
position of the mayor. and whereas pursuit to NJSA4A-R16-12 and NJSA4A col 16-5 the governing body shall within 30 days of the occurrence of the vacancy appoint a successor to fill the vacancy
without regards to party for the unexpired term. And whereas in the interest of the efficient operations, the township council desires to convey a special meeting of the governing body to consider and adopt a resolution selecting a new mayor of the Jackson of
the Township of Jackson to serve the remaining of unexpired term which shall expire in December 31st, 2026. Whereas the township council has determined that said special meeting sha shall be held on October 3rd, 2025 at
10:30 a.m. at the Jackson Township Min building at which time the council shall consider and act upon the appointment of a new mayor. Now therefore, be it res resolved by the township council of the
township of Jackson, county of Ocean, state of New Jersey, as follows. The township council is hereby authorized and directs that a special meeting be held on October 3rd, 2025 at 10:30 a.m. at the Jackson Township Municipal Building. The principal purpose of the
uh said special meeting shall be to the governing body to consider and adopt a resolution selecting a new mayor to fill the unexpired term of Mayor Michael Rea, which term shall expire on December 1st, 2026. The township clerk is hereby
authorized and directed to provide the required notice of the special meeting in accordance with the Open Space Meeting Act of NJSA 104-6. Pardon? Oh, I'm sorry. Open public meeting. I'm just going to read that again so that it's very transparent. The township
clerk is hereby authorized and directed to provide the required Thank you so much, Councilman. Um, required notice of the special meeting in accordance with the open public meeting act NJSA 10-4-6. Thank you, Madam Clerk. And that's it.
The next item of business is the second reading of public hearing of ordinance 202533 authorizing the purchase of surf prayer property known as lot 2 block 1293 aka 39 Georgian Boulevard pursuant to
NJSA 48125. At this time if any member of the public has any comments to make please address the council at the microphone. State your name and address clearly for the record. You'll have five minutes and may only speak once. May I have an o May I
have a motion to open public comment? >> Motion. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. Any opposed? >> Elanor Hatam, Jackson, New Jersey. So I have a question. Why are we purchasing this house? It was offered up for open space and
it's got drainage issues in Robins Estates. >> It has what issues? >> It says drainage issues in Robinson Estates. So, in a meeting with the township engineer and myself, um, and I honestly I don't remember who else was in there and I apologize. As I said in the morning, I just got an accident before I come over here. So, please
apologize. Um, the township engineer had said out for an um recommended that it be introduced to open space to purchase it. So, it's going to be used as a detention basin. >> Yeah, it's going to the engineer has to talk on that. He's going to be doing um
all sorts of drain drainage plans for us to review and then a park on top possibly. >> There's there's videos of about 3 ft of water from the township. That's where we had just talked about the storm water and the drainage issues that are having all around town. There's multiple people that are having these issues. Um and
unfortunately, it's an act of God. So insurance nor ours nor theirs uh covers it. So their houses are just getting flooded. >> So um what is happening that I find this quite interesting because so we're using
open space money to accommodate an issue that actually is not benefiting the public as a whole but for $430,000. But in the past, I think not quite two years ago, um there was other open space
uh that we had offered and we were told that we are not in the business to purchase homes. >> And this home is being demolished. It's been confirmed by the CFO >> for open space. >> Correct. >> With a detention basin on 23 acres.
>> Correct. That's what the engineer recommended. >> And a park. >> Correct. On top of that, >> this this problem on Georgian Boulevard, because I go down it all the time, >> has been there for decades. >> Correct. >> And the continued infrastructure that this government is not forcing our
developers to improve while they are doing their applications, nor are our land use boards like the planning board forcing them to improve the roadways appropriately. Now, we're using $430,000 for this. >> Correct. when I
approached I don't know if you were even here uh for property of seven acres and a house old farmhouse from 1915 and they offered not even double this number. I find it disgusting.
Thank you ma'am. Seeing Seeing no one else come forward and make a motion to close public comment. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? >> May I have a motion to adopt ordinance 202533? >> So moved. >> Second.
>> Councilman Blli. >> Yes. >> Councilman Brassie. >> Yes. >> Councilman Paul Mary. >> Yes. >> Council Vice President Bernstein. >> Yes. >> Council President Cune. >> Yes. >> Motion approved. >> The next item. >> One second. Um, sorry, Madam Clerk. My
apologies. Council President, um, do we have a list? I know we had talked about this with the former business administrator of when requests came in like a spreadsheet and what the process of what information was looked into them, what wasn't looked into. I actually want to look into what Miss Hannah just said. >> So, yeah, this property um has been
going through this issue for over three years. Uh, she sat with the previous council. I'm not asking about the one that we we're purchasing. I'm talking about the one Miss Hannon who brought up a 7acre property and I was just want to know if if it was mentioned to the to the previous governor >> it would be we would be able to open it. I I don't I don't recall it.
>> So Mr. Phillips if if we could look into that after the meeting and finding out what the process why that property was denied and getting a little bit more information >> if if our secretary up here Miss Hannah if you could just give her that address if you recall it when whenever you have a chance and then we can give it to the
business administrator and we can look into it. >> Thank you. Sorry, Madam Cler. >> The next item of business is the second reading and public hearing of ordinance 202534 amending chapter 111 of the township code bicycles.
At this at this time, if any member of the public has any comments to make, please address the council at the microphone and state your name and address clearly for the record. You'll have five minutes and may only speak once. May I have a motion to open public comment? Motion >> second. >> All in favor?
>> I. Any opposed? >> Seeing no one come forward and make a motion to close public comment on this ordinance. >> Second. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? >> No. >> May I have a motion to adopt ordinance 202534? >> So move.
>> Second. >> Councilman Barelli? >> Yes. >> Councilman Bresie? >> Yes. >> Councilman Paul Mary? >> Yes. Council Vice President Bernstein. >> Yes. >> Council President Cume, >> I just want to go about this and just make one comment because I literally just ema got another email from a mother
um that's at sports with her her son at the justice complex and I say it all the time with these ebikes and you know this came about. This is the second time that we're introducing and we're making it stronger hoping and we're we're hoping that the police department will now be able to enforce it under the leadership of Chief Coons because it's really
really really dangerous. Um, and please, if your kids have these bikes, just please put helmets on them. I I'm it I can't believe they're driving down County Line Road with no helmets on on these ebikes and and I'm so I know I say it all the time about this, but we don't want to be here and saying, you know, a
child gets hurt. They're all over on these ebikes and all different ages. So, I just again, thank you, council, and and yes, >> thank you. Motion approved. The next item of business is the first reading and introduction of ordinance 202536.
Amending chapter 24412 entitled fees with respect to the applications to the Jackson Township Planning and Zoning Office. Council President Kun, are there any comments on ordinance 202536? >> Yes. Thank you, Madam Clerk. This ordinance, if adopted, would update the fees charged to the developers for
changes to the township tax maps resulting from their development. In addition, the ordinance provides a fee for updating the township geographical uh information system, GIS, since the
township has established a GIS database. Thank you. Are there any questions or comments by the township council? May I have a motion to approve ordinance 202536 on first reading and introduction to or authorize the notice of the public hearing to be held on October 16th,
2025. So moved. >> Second. >> Councilman Barlli. >> Yes. >> Councilman Brassie. >> Yes. >> Councilman Paul Mary. >> Yes. >> Council Vice President Bernstein. >> Yes. >> Council President Cune. >> Yes. >> Thank you. >> The next item of business is the first
reading and introduction of ordinance 202537 authorizing the acceptance of a portion of block 12701 lot 12.75 from the Westlake Master Association Incorporated. Council President Kuner. Any comments on ordinance 202537?
>> Yes, madame clerk. This ordinance authorizes the township of Jackson to accept a portion of the property identified as block 12701, lot 12.75 from the Westlake Master Association, Inc. This property is being dedicated to the township as a gift and
will become a public roadway maintained by the township. You are there any questions or comments by the township council? May I have a motion to approve ordinance 202537 on first reading and introduction to authorize the notice of the public
hearing to be held on October 16th, 2025? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Council member Belli, >> yes. >> Councilman Brassie, >> yes. >> Councilman Paul Mary, >> yes. >> Council Vice President Bernstein, >> yes. And I just want to add for a second, Council President, if I may. My
understanding was that there was an issue with the utility underlying utilities that required some of the moving of the drainage underground that was going into private property. So correct it had to be upgrade update in order to for it to be a municipal road. So that was just a little bit of the background. So yes,
>> council president. >> Yes. >> Motion approved. The next item of business is the first reading and introduction of ordinance 202538 amending chapter 3 of the administrative code article six department
administration so as to create the division of rental housing safety. Council President Cune are there comments on ordinance 202538? >> Yes, madam clerk. Thank you. This ordinance establishes a new division of rental housing safety within the
township of Jackson. This division's responsibilities include enforcing rental safety laws, conducting inspections, maintaining records, educating landlords and tenants, and coordinating with the township departments.
>> Thank you. >> Are there any questions or comments by the township council? >> Council president, if I could just >> Absolutely. >> Um, for a second, I just want to take a moment and thank you for your persistence and I know Councilman Paul Mary, you and really all the all my coun colleagues over here. Um this process
really probably began over close to a year ago um of us buckling down and looking into this issue. Um we looked at a lot of different towns, a lot of different areas and a lot of different ideas. It's not perfect. Um but I think it's a major step in the right direction. Um it it um I I went through
it thoroughly. It I think establishes I think a start off of a supervisor, a inspector, a traininee inspector um together with a clerk um for this department to be able to make sure that the proper notices are sent out, the proper violations are sent. Hopefully not violations, hopefully we won't have
violations. Um and um and I do think and I am happy that since I think the noise got out to the to the to the public that we are cracking down as a town on illegal rentals and any illegal issues going on, there's been some of these homes that have actually cleaned up some
of their act and I've seen a couple of them have actually gone on the market for sale. So that's a good sign when people realize that Jackson says no and doesn't stand for this. Um, >> and we're looking forward to working with this department, which I think is the plan is for it to roll out in January of 2026. Um, we were waiting for
the budget. What? Correct. We're waiting for the budget to go through. And now that the budget went through, it was a line item in the budget. Now we're able to create this position. And then once this is hopefully >> created at the end of October, beginning of October, second meeting in October, then we are able to then start the
hiring process together with Mr. Phillips and administration. Um, so hopefully have have the proper staffing in place for January 1. >> Thank you. >> If I could just comment, council president. >> Absolutely. >> Um, I would just like to reiterate what council vice president Bernstein said with thanking Council President Cune for
really taking charge of this well over a year ago. I know when I got on board in January, we really dived deep into this. Uh, the entire council knows that this was an issue. And what I'd like to say to all of those that are renting illegally in Jackson Township, well,
you've been put on notice because this is going to be a gamecher. So, thank you. >> I'd like to say something also. >> I think it was done great. I came in late in June on this is being worked on and got the followup from there and the work that was put on it was fabulous by everybody involved. So, I'm coming in
late on it, but I definitely support it. I think it's a great step forward. Thank you, >> Council President. Yes. >> Um I It's a big issue. There's no secret. We all hear >> your mic. Your mic. >> No, it's a it's no secret that it's a big issue in our town and it's been
going on and um you know, people just need to follow laws and make sure, you know, maintenance and safety is um of the utmost importance of, you know, properties that are in our town. So, I think it's a good step in the right direction. If we have to tweak it down the road, we'll tweak it to see how it
works. So, but um it's it's a positive step u moving forward on this uh big issue facing our town. Thank you. >> Um I might as well say something. So, Councilman just said the best thing that I think you guys could all hear is if he
said if we had to tweak it down the road, we will. That is what happens up here. If you guys don't understand, you create an ordinance, if you find there's an issue with it, you have to reintroduce it. sometimes, you know, since I've been up here in, you know, when we were doing the no parking
ordinance, we introduced that four times. I mean, I think I could have memorized it by the time we were introducing it for the last time. So, we do have to sometimes reintroduce things because we we're not perfect. We don't always get it right. We have our professionals and there's loopholes or
there's more things that come out. So, this is the first stage of it. Then, we have to create the ordinance, right, for the for we already did the budget, so we have the department. Then we have to go to, just so everybody knows, then we have to bring the landlord registration ordinance back up here and we have to
change the fee from 125 to 225. Then we have to go to the budget in the state and we have to create the new line in the new the whole new department. We have to create a whole new department. Then we have to put out which we've already done. We put the resumes out. We have to interview. We have to find the right people.
We have to find bilingual. Have to be bilingual to be at the top of the chain in this to be a supervisor in this department. Then after that we have to go and we have to hire them and create it into put them in a department within the township. We have to train them. They have to be trained. We have to have
somebody come in and go and know learn our systems, learn our roadways, learn where our rentals are at. So the process is not just wake up and say, "Oh my god, we want we have you have to do it the right way." Because we're realizing that we need people in this department that
are willing to sit in court every day for people that don't answer their door and don't let let the inspectors in for the violations to do the inspections that they have to do. That is a process and procedure. And you know what? Not everybody wants to do that. But the people that will be in this department, that is going to be their sole job. So I
just want to make sure and everybody's saying, "How come it's not done yet? how it there's steps and steps and steps and that's unfortunately you know the way government is and it's not a private sector. So, I just wanted to put that out there. But thank you everyone for the support and I'm really looking forward to this. >> Council President, just to add, the
reason why this step waited about six probably about eight weeks was we had to wait until the budget passed. >> Correct. >> Because we had to have a light line item otherwise this department >> it's a whole new department. It's a whole new department. They're licensed. They're different. When you read the ordinance, you'll see um there's there's qualifications in there. It's very
in-depth. We took I mean I I could tell you if I say the amount of hours we put in you know collectively with the attorney um it was a lot going back to the drawing board taking stuff off putting stuff on >> and and just to add also we are a civil service town so all the all these positions have to match with civil
service and that was something there were different ideas that different elected officials brought up that had to be matched with civil service making sure that it it worked. So thank you. >> Thank you so much. Thank you madam clerk. May I have a motion to approve ordinance 202538 on the first reading and introduction to authorize the notice of
the public hearing to be held on October 16, 2025. >> Motion. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Councilman Blli, >> yes. >> Councilman Brassie, >> yes. >> Councilman Paul Mary, >> yes. >> Council Vice President Bernstein, >> yes. >> Council President Cume,
>> yes. >> Thank you. The next item of business is the payment authorization of bills and claims. I would like to note the following abstensions. Abstensions include Council Member Bellarelli AE T01, NJ S4, and RU
T04 and Council President Cune RCSO2. Are there any questions or comments by the Township Council? May I have a motion to approve the bills list and claims with the supplemental noted by Council President Cune and the
abstensions noted? >> Motion. >> Second. >> Council member Barlli. >> Uh yes, with the exception of those stated for my abstensions on the bills and claims list. Thank you. >> Councilman Brassie, >> yes. >> Councilman Paul Mary, >> yes.
>> Council Vice President Bernstein, >> yes. >> Council President Cune, >> yes. >> Motion approved. Thank you. >> The next item on the agenda is the consent agenda listed for tonight's consideration for resolutions
292 through 306 2025 listed by title. Council President Keune, are there comments on the consent agenda? >> Yes. I would personally like to uh remove for discussion
the robot forms resolution. I'm looking for the number on here. Rock. >> Is it on? >> Is it on here? >> No. So, I'm just going to give There's no resolution on there. Again, I was just an accident, so I'm a little Just want to talk about that. If you could
put that back up, Christian, please. So, this is the concept plan. The other one when Councilman Bernstein was uh was giving you guys an update. This is the concept plan that is with Rover Farms. And as he was saying, um, on August 15th, we had the content plan provided to the committee chair. On September
1st, the committee chair presented the comm um to the committee and the concept deemed acceptable. 9:16, the uh community building concept floor plans provided to the committee uh chair. 9:19 the engineer met with the committee chair um and to discuss the building uh
concept plan uh comments provided which I'm not going to read but then we actually attach we have the actual concept plan so this is Rova Farms um this council I can say we passed the resolution to have Rova Farms moving forward um we stood behind Rova Farms
and we put uh our previous councilman as the chairperson on there to see it continue to move forward Councilman uh Vice President uh Bernstein and myself have continued been updated. I don't know if if you've been involved, uh, Councilman, but we just wanted to make sure that you guys do see and you
actually can see a concept plan. I know it's been, I think, four years, >> four years in the making. So, we we got it done. This is an actual plan. You can see it's stamped by the engineer and I just wanted to make sure that it was in front of you guys so that you you know,
the the rumors rumors on social media are absolutely it's just it gets frustrating when you know that you work. so hard to get things done and to move forward and you go to meeting after meeting after meeting and you know there's just type type false that's the
concept plan that was approved by Rova and that is moving forward thank you madam clerk nothing else would anybody from the public like like us to take any resolutions and discuss them >> seeing nobody want to >> council president if I could just comment for a second I just wanted to comment we don't have to pull it out on
resolution 295-2025 appointing Mr. Selectia as an alternate member of the Jackson zoning board. I I just want to um thank a a resident who's been coming to meetings for a very long time asking tough questions um who's been educated um for putting his name
in. Um and I I know it's been a process um getting a resident to volunteer, but when a resident does volunteer, we appreciate it and we continue the process of hopefully filling all vacancies on the zoning board. And I think there's still one more vacancy of an alt two still available that we are
still seeking names. Um and hopefully by the next meeting we'll have that filled also. Thank you. >> I have a comment also. James has always come to all the planning and zoning board meetings. I had the privilege of sitting up here while he was down there and he always came up with really appropriate questions, suggestions and
really added a lot to every meeting. And I thank you for coming to them and thank you for volunteering to serve. Look forward to you being on the board. >> And if I can Mr. Selectia, thank you for responding to the email with those with the questions I submitted to you. They were very uh detailed and I appreciate
it. >> So, I have to read this. >> Okay. >> Council President, >> anything else? >> Just regarding resolution 306-2025. I've been getting a lot of questions about it. I have a a question. I'm sure
many people do as well. It's regarding selecting the the new mayor uh to fill the unexpired term. Um and I guess this question would be directed attorney mcuckin. Um could a special election h you know we vote on an active mayor but
a special election occur? >> No. Considering the importance of the the position, it's such a, you know, the mayor being the most powerful position given the the mayor being the most powerful position, you know, given especially under the Faulner form of government this that this township is
under um special election be a consideration because I'm sure voters will decide. >> Sorry. >> Under the provisions of the statute, there's no provision for a special election for the office mayor. statute provides that if
the vacancy occurs after a certain date in the calendar year, which this one did, uh it would be an appointment for the balance of the term till the next general election, which would be November of 2026. Um and that is the term mayor's term.
Okay. >> Anyway, so it be to the next general election, which would be November 2026. >> Okay. Thank you. >> They could hear you. I heard you, but I'm so >> Oh, there you go. You're in.
>> All right. There you go. By statute, there is no provision for a special election. By statute, the vacancy is filled because of the timing of the year that it was uh provided uh as it being October 1st. The appointment is for a year till the November general election
of 2026. And there's no provision for a special election. >> Anybody else? Thank you, Madam Clair. May >> I have a motion to authorize the consent agenda resolutions 292 to 306 2022? >> Motion. >> Second.
>> Councilman Barlli, >> yes. >> Councilman Brassie, >> yes. >> Councilman Paul Mary, >> yes. >> Council Vice President Bernstein, >> yes. >> Council President Hume, >> yes. >> Motion approved. At this time, if any member of the public has any comments to make, please
address the council at the microphone and state your name and address clearly for the record. You will have five minutes and may only speak once. May I have a motion to open public comment? >> Motion to open. >> Second. >> All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion approved. >> So, basically, I want to talk about
taxes. >> Okay. >> Because they're obviously out of control. >> I'm sorry. >> I'm sorry. Your name and your address. >> My name is Joe Zippo. I'm at 92 Toms River Road. So, basically, I just looked at my taxes over the last couple years,
and in 2022, I was paying $6,891.13. In 2023, I was paying $7,4412. So, and then in 2024, $7,286. So, it's been going up about $2,300 every every uh year or so. But guess
what? This year I am now paying $8,000 at the end of this year $8,88927 for an increase of $1,62.72. Where why the hell am I paying so much and everybody else in this town? I mean, it's just out of control. We can't afford to do this anymore. But yet we
got all these developers that are coming in that should be paying the taxes. It's out of control. And we got people that are coming in that are paying no taxes. Just saying. I mean, it's just And that's why I'm here tonight because I'm just frustrated. So,
I mean, what's the plan? I mean, is it plan to get us all out so that the developers can come in and everybody can get overpriced? I mean, is that what's happening? >> No. >> So, what's the plan? I mean, to get the taxes under control because they're just
obviously out of control. >> Well, we had a re-evaluation, which we haven't had since 2008. So, we just had a new re-evaluation. >> Okay, but understand something is that I don't get that money until I sell my house. Otherwise, I'm just paying money out the door. I mean, everybody here
should, you know, feel the same way unless you sell. So, I don't plan on selling. So, >> good. >> But I just think it's ridiculous how how you all keep your jobs and you let this happen. It's just out of control. >> And >> we don't control the taxes on this. We
have a tax collector and a tax assessor. And then we have a tax rate that council has. >> But you guys are in charge. They they're they work with you. But that's >> we're we're not an administration. We're council. So we don't the tax collector and the tax assessor do not work with council. It's not not in our form of
government. >> You're in charge of the town. It's like passing the block. >> It's not I understand. It's frustrating. We had we had a presentation uh with the when we passed the budget and they went over it and it was a third, a third, a third. Some went up, some went down and some saved the state. And then next year
I'm projected to be even more money. Just looking at my 2026 for the first and second quarter. I mean it's just out of control. I mean it's >> Did you try to do a tax appeal? >> What is it? >> You can appeal your taxes. >> Yeah, but I have it's it's when you raise taxes on everybody else, it's
almost impossible to get comparisons. I tried doing it. >> People People do it. >> Yes, I know people do it, but my property I have a very it's it's a lot different than most other properties. I live in a small house. >> Okay. But a lot of people don't live in the same type of situation that I'm living in. So, it's hard for me to find
comparables. I I went through it and I was actually told it's it's not even you're not going to get much back. And >> who told you that? >> Just people that I've talked to. >> I don't talk to people. You should talk to the people that can actually answer that question like the tax assessor and tax collector. If you make appointment, >> talk to realtors. I've talked to
realators. I've talked to people. >> If any realtor is telling you that you can't get money back and not to do it, they're not guiding you right. And that's not a professional answer for you. The professional answer is you go back from October 1st to October 1st for the previous year and you find a like like comparatable home
>> which is again impossible for me to do when >> you said you live in a ranch everybody gets their taxes raised. So and my property again is a lot different than >> okay you have a unique property that's >> that's fine but what I would suggest is to me make an appointment with Peter Maher and talk about what you can do to
possibly do a tax appeal. That's my suggestion. >> All right. >> All right. If you want, you can email me and I'll put you in contact with him. I have no problem doing that. You could come here. I'll even come down with you and you could sit down and make sure that he doesn't tell you that you can't do it, that he actually gives you the paperwork and you can submit it. I think
it's like a $25 fee, if it's even a fee anymore. I don't recall. >> All right. >> All right. Thank you, sir. Eleanor Hadam, Jackson, New Jersey. For almost two years now, I've witnessed the disintegration of our beautiful town as
it as this government has shifted to its present leadership. It is becoming increasingly clear whose voice matters and whose voice and value is tossed aside. I have seen how the voice of one community is heard while the desperate
cries of another community falls on deaf ears. I have seen a single resident demand lighting on a small street to serve his needs. That that request was granted even though it flooded the neighborhood with harsh glare. Yet, when
a lifelong resident on Oak Street raised concerns about that very light pollution, her voice was dismissed. I have seen this very council mock residents for daring to speak up, ignoring their plight. But when other
residents objected to the opening of London Avenue, suddenly the ordinance is tabled. Time and again, I have seen residents ask for help, ask for ordinances to protect their safety, their quality of life, their neighborhoods, and time and
again their pleas were brushed aside with a dismissive thank you ma'am or thank you sir. Meanwhile, one phone call or email from a se select few gets instant action. I have witnessed ordinances crafted not to serve all the
needs of Jackson, but to protect the interests of a narrow circle, like the window ordinance passed conveniently to excuse a violation in a newly built great room that is supposed to be for family use, but it is not. or
signage ordinances that quietly enable homes to become commercial operations. The voice or due process of those neighbors go unheard and ignored. I have witnessed homes transformed into massive addictions
never reviewed by land use boards, never accountable while residents are told the coverage limits somehow aren't exceeded, which they are. I have seen facilities allowed to operate for years without completing their site plans while
ordinary builders are forced to halt all until every requirement is met. I have witnessed what we agreed to increased property taxes for the preservation of open space to be swindled to pay for
landscapers, grant writing companies, or improvements on properties not owned by Jackson Township. I have been told we don't purchase homes for open space just which was just done
this meeting and most likely for the needs of that soul neighborhood again whose voice is heard. But when it came to the Roa Farms, the four plus years
we were told no, I was removed from the Roa Farms committee by council president and council vice president due to their discrimination towards me. But I continued to go to those meetings
and as I sat in those meetings I listened to Alla beg when can we finish this as she's in her 80s and she basically lived there only to have Hune here to scream at her saying
get over it it's not happening or I'm also watching the pre the lack of the preservation of the historical Casville village. Again, our voice doesn't matter. It screams that our heritage and our history have no
meaning. Again, our voice means nothing. I've watched taxpayer money improved, used to improve roads, not for the public good, but to accommodate an illegally operation operating facility on Pittney. Improvements that by law should have been the responsibility of
that developer. I've witnessed the leadership sphere had a DOJ settlement scripted by the plaintiff and rubber stamped by a federal judge who was most likely not privy to the fact that the list of properties in appendix F were properties owned by well-connected developers with ties to Jackson Ocean
County governments. I've seen valuable township employees driven out through harassment. I have seen transparency abandoned favoritism on full display. who is interrupted and who is allowed to speak, whose emails are answered and
whose are ignored and the truth is undeniable. I've witnessed systematic discrimination by this government. It is painfully clear whose voices have value in this town and whose do not. Thank you. So, I don't need you to come back.
Absolutely. So, let me just I'm just going to answer that, sir, if you could just give me a minute to answer that. So, I'm just going to read an email. um that I've been going back and forth with for a very long time regarding the lights that nobody answers the situation. I'm well aware of the
light situation. So, we just want to go back. Sorry. Good afternoon, Jennifer. Thank you for keeping me updated on the lights. I spoke with you on Friday, September 19th, in regards to reducing the lights
on Elms Street by 50%. So I have attached two pages from the municipal lighting handbook which indicates the difference between the lightings. We have 90 volt. Not going to go into anything. I've been speaking with her. We took care of it. I spoke with JCPL. I worked with the uh engineer and all of those lights as per what they wanted in
that neighborhood are going to be reduced to 50%. So I don't like people accusing me of anything. The next thing is going to be the open space grant writing. Yes, I do meet with the grant writers. I have three different meetings to bring grant money and money from the
state into our town that it's not from the taxpayers. We pay $1,000 a month that is not over it's not from open space money. Okay? We do not pay it from there. I take out of my time. Okay? That's three different meetings at the last Wednesday of every month. I do it for infrastructure. I do it for
recreation. And I do it for our police department and EMS. So if you'd like to look at my calendar, if you like me to send you all the Zoom links, Absolutely. Okay. That's strange. Love that. So, Roa, I don't know if you just saw the concept plan up there that we've just
got on and is on there. That's the whole concept plan. Nobody removed you. It was the attitude that you gave to council and we felt that it would be unfair for the rest of the committee to have somebody that's constantly vulgar towards the elected officials that are sitting there on that committee. So, we felt that that wasn't appropriate. Did
you go to every meeting? Absolutely. As a resident, you can come and attend any meeting that you want. But if you're going to be vulgar towards us, do you think that we want to be on a committee and sit there and try and get stuff done? Absolutely not. So, thank you, ma'am. If you could please stop. Thank you.
[Music] >> Good evening, Walt Dubra, Freehold Road. I had the opportunity of speaking with the head biologist in the Asen Bankank uh wildlife management and I explained to him about the rover proposition.
Uh they agreed that they might come down once the boat ramp is is all you know figured out and laid out. They'll come down and do an electro fishing survey of the lake >> and if need be they'll stock it. >> Oh wow.
>> All right. So the person's name is Chris Smith >> and he's at the Asen Pink uh wildlife management >> if you want to get uh in touch with him about that. >> Thank you. >> Now uh regarding safety regulations on that lake who would be responsible.
>> Let's I know we're going to we're going to go we're going to speak with our attorneys and go through we're also concerned about coming out with the road. Um it's a busy road. I know that the traffic safety has given us in the county but we all we are all working together. We're going to we're going to >> Yeah. You know, the wearing of life vests and everything.
>> I know. >> I'm pretty sure the state might take over. >> Okay. >> You know, >> well, we'll look I'll speak to Chris Smith and then we'll see where he could guide us. >> And also the concerns of uh has anybody decided on propulsion of the watercraft?
>> Promotion of the what? >> Of the watercraft itself, you know, of the boats. >> Yeah. >> Be it electric, gas, or only rowing. I'm I'm thinking it's it's probably going to be either just rowing or electric. I don't think it's going to be I don't I wouldn't recommend gas just like Lake
Eno. You can't do gas on Lake Eno either. So, >> right, it's something to Yeah. Uh also, a while back a gentleman uh asked a question about the uh Bonhill Bobs. Uh it's actually not a lake, it's a cranberry bog. >> Yeah.
>> So, no, nobody's going to really stock that. >> Okay. You know, >> you're talking about off of Cranberry Harvest in the back of Cranberry Harvest, >> right? Right. >> It's It's all We all know it's cranberry box. >> All right. Thank you much. >> Thank you, sir. >> Good evening. Chris Pollock, Jackson,
New Jersey. The people who live in Jackson aren't happy. You have to just look around. Go on Facebook. Go online. Walk around the neighborhood, talk to anybody. No one is happy with the direction we are headed in. It doesn't matter whether you've
lived here forever or you moved here for a better life from somewhere else. And the people don't want to leave, but a lot of people feel like they have to. They feel like they're almost being forced out. Homeowners are harassed to sell by
people. Out of town corporate investors are buying up properties. Zoning changers are pushed through that don't serve the residents. Buildings are being shoved into quiet neighborhoods with parking lots. They're destroying the character of our community. Piece by piece, deal by deal,
they are reshaping our town. The building, the construction, the traffic, it's becoming overwhelming to many. It feels like a deliberate strategy to make it unbearable to live here. So, people sell. It's greed, pure and simple. And
it's tearing our neighborhoods apart. And while this goes on, what do we see? So-called plan for Jackson's future that's nothing more than a gift to developers. A plan of explosive growth. The same kind of overdevelopment that has already overrun some surrounding
towns. And people moved here to escape that. Everything happening looks coordinated. And it's always the same story. The rich, the powerful, the politically connected. They're the ones benefiting, not the families who live here and not the people who love this
town. And all this is happening under your leadership. Don't tell us you don't know what's going on. You would have to be blind and deaf not to see it. Yet, you sit there and you pat yourself on the back like you're doing such a
wonderful job all the time. Who benefits here? You have to always follow the money. Follow the real estate deals. Follow the development contracts. Follow the engineering firms. Follow the pack donations. Every trail leads back
to the same place. The people in charge. You profit while the people you're supposed to serve suffer. The leadership in this town is vile. You're selling out our community. You attack and intimidate anyone who dares to speak up. You want people afraid to step forward and afraid
to fight back. But here's the thing. There's a lot of people who aren't afraid. There's a lot of people willing to fight back and more and more people are waking up to what's happening and that's bad news for you. >> Thank you, sir.
[Applause] >> Evening everyone. Donnie Adelman, 206 Willow Point. Uh, a couple of things real quick. Uh, Counciloman Palmary, Counciloman Bernstein, and even though you weren't really involved, uh, Mr. Belli, thank you for taking a net
negative and turning into a positive message about getting out and voting. As a poll worker, I look forward to seeing everybody coming out and vote. And I'm always a little disappointed because, well, we never have the turnout that we want. But thank you for giving a very
positive message about that. Um, a couple of things. Yes, the kids uh with the farm stand was very cute. I bought some stuff from them and from what I hear they're doing pumpkins and everything coming up. So, you have that to look forward to. Um still, it was
brought up I think two meetings ago about the Revolution 250 thing. I I'd like to make notice that I'd like to volunteer for the committee. the bike ordinances that you guys have spent a lot of time enacting. As
somebody who goes to Johnson Park every day, it's just not being enforced. >> Um, as I've said in regards to my problems like code enforcement and other people in town in the government, it does no good if you guys could pass the best laws on earth. We're the worst laws
on earth, but if no one's enforcing it, means nothing. um rental safety position that you were talking about before. That's great. I just hope that they're doing more than just looking for illegal rentals and they're meant to serve the people who are renting that have problems like mice and you know little
things like that. Handicap parking and getting a letter from the town so he doesn't get evicted because well code enforcement doesn't want to do their job. Um military day I was listening in the car who was talking about that. I was all right. Uh
the 4th is my birthday. Some of my Navy friends are coming in. Is that for Jackson residents only or is it anybody welcome? >> Everybody. Anybody? >> I'm actually on the committee for that. Um yes, it's Tim Hurley. It's you. Anybody could go. It's a great great great event >> and it looks online.
>> It's fun. It's a lot of fun. >> Is that the wounded warriors from Mayor? >> No, that's the that's this is private. This is done by the Knights of Columbus. This is their second annual one. It's an absolutely amazing event. It's you could bring anyone. >> So, we'll be there. Um, and I guess also that day in the morning, we'll be there.
We'll be here. >> 12 o'clock >> for the uh special meeting for mayor. >> That's on Friday, >> isn't it? This >> two separate days. >> Oh, okay. I'm sorry. Um, as far as other things, uh, I know I spoke to you several months ago about the ADA
committee. Look, the I I heard before that zoning and all this, you have all these boards, all these committees that are either not formed because you don't have anybody or you can't get enough of anybody. I'll volunteer for whatever. Um, you know, I
>> What committee do you want to be on? >> I I don't I certainly do certainly do the ADA, but I >> listen, I'll take your We could walk around town and we have >> if we can't get an ADA committee, I'll do zoning. I don't care. You know, I actually do have a background a little bit. I am a certified uh >> let's start with the ADA committee.
>> Okay. Um other things uh as far as transparency issues, I know the school taxes are not your purview, but it does have to be put out there just for the simple fact that it is going to hit this town like a tsunami.
And we had the gentleman here earlier complaining about his taxes going up due to the reassessment, everything like that. I get it and certainly I understand what you're saying. He doesn't get that to recoup that tax investment until he sells his house. All right. But the simple fact of the matter is, you know, when our CFO is sitting
there saying 54% of the town's income is based on that school tax and it's going to go up another 20 30% if not more. Um, we need to talk about that. And I guess uh other things Jackson police, it was brought up last
meeting, has been brought up several other times. When they're out and about, they leave their cars running. Ford and other companies knowing this, have made special modules, I guess you call it, that you can plug into the uh cruisers. And this way it keeps all their
computers active. So this way they don't have to be running their engines 20, you know, well, at least their entire shift. We're paying a lot of gas because, as anyone knows, cars, doesn't matter if it's a police cruiser or any of your cars. If it's idling, it's using more gas than it would if you're driving down
the road. And these batteries, from what I've seen, they cost about $500 to have installed, including the price of the module. And you could have one installed in everyone. I understand there's a significant capital investment based on the fact there's probably 100 cop cars, but the gas savings alone would in would
validate that within the first year. Um, as far as other things, uh, can you please create maybe on the website a link so that residents can report problems with traffic lights? >> All right. Thank you. >> I guess I'll see you all in two weeks for the rest of it.
>> Bye. >> Council President, could I >> That was very organized though, I have to say. >> See what happens when you get two minutes. >> But traffic safety at Jackson Township, email me and I'll send you the thing. You can send the lights out and I'll get it to engineering or or to traffic that
>> they're out. It's just that like there are times literally you can be sitting there and it'll just won't the light will never turn green. >> I heard it. I I'll send it out to you. >> Council President, before we go further, I just want to read an email. Thank you, Miss Adam. I just meant to read in my opening comments um from Miss Novak to
all township employees and all elected officials. >> Thank you. >> It is with great sadness that we announced the passing of our retired colleague colleague Grace Oruror. Grace was a long-standing and respected member of our finance department known for her dedication, kindness, and the lasting friendship she built with many of her co-workers. We extend our heartful our
heartfelt condolences to Grace's family and friends during this difficult time. She will be deeply missed and finally remembered by all who had the pleasure of working with her. Memorial services were held today. Um, and um, I just want to take a moment and mention Grace and ask everyone to keep Grace and her
family in in in theirh prayers. Thank you. >> Thank you, Councilman. Hi, good evening. Linda Thompson, 50 RTOR Road. Two questions. How do we go about now getting our new mayor? Is it I know it's appointed from up front. Is it
automatically become the president? It becomes the mayor. How I know you appoint the new mayor. How does it happen? >> Answer please. >> By statute, the uh governing body, head of the governing body, in this case, council president becomes acting mayor.
the moment the resignation takes effect. So that'll be October 1st. Under the statute, the governing body then has 30 days to select a mayor for the balance of his term. Um, and that's why they've scheduled a meeting for October 3rd. >> Okay. So his term was supposed to be up
November of >> December 31st of 2026, I believe. >> Okay. >> So, and that election will happen in 2026. >> November of 26, there'll be an election for mayor. >> Okay. um >> as there would have been actually >> right okay my second question is I live
closer to the great adventure line Milstone line and um this has become I've been here 38 years 39 years this has become the capital of warehouses and we all know that no matter where we go more on my side than
anywhere the great adventure area where all the warehouses are have never opened have never I've heard all kinds of rumors and I don't go on rumors. I've heard that it's a lighting they there's
not enough energy to turn the lights on. So, there are not going to be tractor trailers coming in and out. Okay. Uh Allison Road is one of my adjacent roads and I remember the uh one of the ladies, you know, when we passed the gentleman
that decided he was going to have a tractor trailer um place over by me and we approved it and I was very happy that he approved it. He was building uh something right there for his business and I'm all about running your own
business and making your own money. It was fine. Now we have all these places over by Jackson, over by Great Adventure, and not one of them is running. Are they paying taxes? Is money coming to Jackson for that?
Because on West Commodore, we've got two brand new ones again. >> Where's that money at? >> So any structure that receives a CO pays property taxes on the >> I understand they probably do, but how much are they paying? I I couldn't tell you for each building, but the tax
assessor certainly can. There's a property record card. It'll tell you exactly what they're paying. >> Because from what I understand, if it's not running, it's a very small tax bill. >> If they have not yet received a CO, then it's as uh improved property without a building on it. Okay? So, it would pay
on the land itself with the roadways and so forth. Whatever that value of that land is at that time. >> How do I find? >> So, I got to see the assessor can tell you for any property. We have a property record card on every piece of property in the township and all you can you can go in and just see it anytime you want. >> Okay. So we can find out how much taxes
they're paying. >> That's correct. >> And is that on any warehouse? Anything in town you can get it. If you go to Peter Maher, he's amazing. If you go into his office, he's got about eight people in there. You walk in there, they'll take you right in. You can any address, anything that you want, and they'll print it right out for you. >> Okay.
>> It's public knowledge. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So my bigger question will be then if we find out that they're not paying a lot of taxes and they have all this property then there's a lot of money being wasted in Jackson. >> The township collects taxes legal taxes
on any legal way that we are allowed to. >> Okay. >> So if there's a co they got to pay the improved value. If it's not a coed building yet, then they pay on the land itself with the roadways and so forth infrastructure. >> There's a property value that's attached to each piece of property in the landship and that's what they pay their
taxes on. Just like the gentleman earlier, his property, his uh unique property, whether house or whatever it is, >> the value of that property is what the taxes are based on. >> Okay? >> And and if I could just add for a second, I've been copied on emails to Mr. Maher. He's tough. He fights for every dollar for Jackson. There's I've
been on emails where people have asked it's not being used. The minute he has a CO and he assesses it, >> you have to fight him. >> So I wonder if this is a situation where there is not a CO. There's there's you're talking about West Commodore, the two big white, the one that had the tornado that went through it that was
sitting there forever and now they just >> West Commodore one, but the bigger one is the Jackson over by the right on 537. And then there's a situation going on now where u Mr. Cardell owns all that property. I know you know what I'm talking about. >> I do.
>> And there's a disaster from what I'm hearing and I don't like to go to social media. From what they're thinking they're going to do with a community maybe um you know, Mr. Bernstein, you might know something about them wanting to build a community over there. I live
on 530. I live on the 537571 corridor and I have fought to keep stuff out of any more 537. >> If I could just address that for a second. Um, this council has passed pretty strict ordinances. We are being sued as a govern government government
now over that ordinance to try to restrict and make sure that your neighbor but I don't think we should discuss it more unless Mr. McCucken because we are >> council is very with you on on what's I'm dealing with it right now. So I'm and I'm gonna we're not gonna say anything else please because I
>> unless Mr. McGawware >> I'm very very very aware. >> Enough problems with great adventure right now. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> So council G. >> Seeing no one else come forward make a motion to close public comment. >> Motion.
>> All in favor? >> I. >> Any opposed? Motion approved. Oh, [Music] >> go ahead. Go ahead. Councilman is gonna excuse himself. >> Deb Jones Jackson. Um, I'm a little
curious about when you said about the mayor position and there not being a provision. I understand there's not a provision, but that doesn't mean there's not a way. >> No, ma'am. There's a clear statutory procedure for when a vacancy occurs in the office of mayor or council. It's
called the municipal vacancy law. And that statute directs how these vacancies are filled. >> Okay. Well, then with that said, I really hope you guys all give it a lot of thought because right now the public is not happy with
what we're seeing. And I can confidently say that just by talking to people. You have someone um right up there who's already been the mayor. You talk about not wanting people coming that have to learn and get things. I
listened to your comments last time when you put Mr. Breie on the council about how much how much um experience he's coming with. Well, maybe you might want to think of that instead of just pushing along the line and
making people more upset than they already are. Because I gotta be honest with you, town's not going to be behind you if you're mayor. We're barely hanging on with you being the council president. Thank you, ma'am.
[Applause] Good evening, Eric Jones, Heisen Road. Need a number. 722 Heisen Road. Uh, on what my wife just said. I agree with her on that. Um, this is how it should go down. You should to be the mayor for the
term. Everybody should stay as they are. and this man should take the vacant seat. You want to be true to transparency, you will take somebody that's fighting you and put them alongside you because the best the best government is a government that can see
both sides. Once you start seeing one side, you're already lost. And about these couple other things on here, you had this um housing safety. Is that what am I right? Housing safety. What does the safety mean?
What does housing safety mean? And the other thing is with that I understand probably the structure because I work under the same structure of how you're going to do this by just going to be self-funded perhaps. I think
that's what you're doing. Self-funded. There's not going to be any positions created through taxpayer money. Am I right about that? A non would be good and I'll just keep going. No. Okay. Um, but doing something self-funded,
where's the safety net for those you hire when the the ship hits the ground or the building collapses? You know, everything starts falling down because you can't fund it anymore. And are these people going to be salary,
health benefits, pensionable, all that stuff? That's just the question. But anyways, I say breie for mayor. >> Thank you. Thank you, sir. [Applause]
>> Seeing no one come forward, move to close public comments. >> All in favor? >> I >> I. >> Any opposed? May I have a motion to adjourn the meeting? >> All in favor? >> I.
>> Any oppose? Motion approve. Good luck, man.