um made aware of. So they don't know that those type of activities are h happening. But we many of us made a a commitment of our time so we could go there and improve on our understanding of ways to to work for our city. So wanted to share that with everybody and then congratulate Neptune Beach uh for
their fabulous job in the way they recognized both Atlantic and J Beach as well. Thank you Mr. Wagner. Mr. Sutton. Yep. Just um last week uh we participated in uh the recognition of the uh USS Stark.
I think it was the 38th uh anniversary of the unfortunate um missile attack on the Stark 1987 I believe it was. And 37 sailors lost their lives that day. And those of us that were around certainly remember that and remember the memorial
service I believe that was right here at Mayport with the president. And um was very uh touching and very moving uh ceremony and uh Rep. Michaels was able to make it um not only to the um Northeast Florida League of Cities
meeting on Thursday evening, but she was there for the um Stark Memorial as well, which was really nice of her to uh play hookie for a day and come over for a couple of important items. So, uh all the beaches were represented, uh as well as, uh the city with Mayor Degan there.
I'm sure she was not sad about the excuse to get out of Tallahassee for a couple days. Mr. Just briefly, I want to say thank you to Mayor Hoffman, thank you to Mayor Band of Neptune Beach, and thank you to Mayor Curtis Ford of Atlantic Beach for their recent letter that was sent off to the
uh Florida for Department of Environmental Protection opposing this uh horrific request for a land swap in Guana State Reserve. horrific as my term and my feelings, not representative those on the council, but anybody who sees um a need for a development down
there and what is a huge state nature preserve. Um, I'm glad to see uh the continued support in the community for opposing that and I hope that everybody if you get a chance to write anybody with any poll in the Department of Environmental Protection, a um lawmaker
at the local, state level, a national level, please do so because I do not want to see that area disappear. And all of the attached wildlife and memories. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. horn. Anybody else? Okay,
I have kind of a random assortment. Um, busy week last week. I was um delighted and honored to be able to speak at the Fletcher Middle School National Junior Honor Society induction. Um, a lot of bright young minds joining that organization. Uh, it was a a real challenge to come up with three minutes
of entertaining rising eighth graders. I think I did it. Hopefully, we'll see. Um, and then we had two businesses open this week. We had Seismores, which is a new seafood restaurant right on the boardwalk, uh had their soft opening, family and friends opening. I think
they're officially open on Wednesday for business. And a little further south, we had TJ Maxx open. And that is in the location of the old um Bet Bath and Beyond. They were looking to beat the single store grand opening weekend total. And judging by the line wrapped
around the store for the many registers that were open, I think they probably did it. Um, coming up also along uh the note of Fletcher, their uh Fletcher High School is graduating on Friday. So, congratulations in advance to all of
those fresh new graduates entering the world. And uh let's see. Let's see. Tomorrow we have the nonprofit center and the beach's action collaborative will be uh presenting the community indicators report right here in council chambers at lunchtime. If you haven't already RCPD, it's definitely going to
be standing room only, but let me know if you'd like to attend. Um, two more events. The Citizen Police Academy Alumni Association is hosting their annual garage sale on May 31st. It is going to be at the police station. This is how they raise money for all of the
events that they put on through the year. So, they have a Santa event. They do a big Halloween event. They do things to support our police officers and citizens on patrol uh throughout the year. So, that is a worthwhile cause if you are so inclined to garage sale. And then the next big event that the city
has coming up is Countryfest, which is going to be on June 19th. But most importantly, this is National Public Works Week and is a tongue twister if you try to say it. But congratulations to our uh public works director, Dennis Baron,
who's here today. Um, and to all of our public works um employees and staff. Their theme this year is people, purpose, presence, and public works is definitely one of those uh parts of our city that is everpresent working in the background. Uh but they're always working to advance our quality of life,
even if you may not see them, but when you're not there, you definitely notice. And this is the second year where there's been a very apppropo agenda item. So, today we will be discussing sludge. It's one of those items that I think Mr. Baron does on purpose to really remind us of the importance of
public works. Um and I signed the other there's two proclamations. We're going to spare you uh the reading or spare me maybe the reading and the presentation of them that the other one was for water reuse week. Is that it? So it's also water reuse. So celebrate however you so
choose, but definitely worth worth celebrating. We're going to celebrate by considering our uh sledge hauling issue today. So please pass on our appreciation, Mr. Baron to your staff and team uh for the great work that they do, not just National Public Works Week, but every week of the year. Anybody
else? Okay. Uh moving on, courtesy of the floor, we will uh got a couple speaker cards that are not attached to agenda items. Uh when I call your name, coming up to the podium, the light is green. You do not need to press anything, but give us your name, address, and you will have three minutes to address the council. Uh Michelle Ma
Mattisu. Good evening, Council members. I'm here to speak on behalf of the entrance uh the beach access entrance to 37th Avenue South. It is um something that's been uh uh really weighing on a lot of us that not only live there, but people who
access the public um people walking across third and so on and so forth. It is uh really slippery. A lot of we've seen people fall and it's concerning the safety issue. I almost slipped this morning and it's been three
times for me. I know four people who have fallen and I think the city needs to be aware that something needs to be to address that issue. It's affecting us as as beachgoers and uh this is another side issue. I've asked uh three or four
times if we could please have the wood covers for the the trash cans on the beach. Aesthetically, they're on this I see the wood covers on the street side before people access the beach, but the ones that are on the beach are now just
the the black tubs. So, you know, wind, you know, and just the aesthetics of it. I mean, our beach is beautiful and I think that the covers actually are lovely. It just makes it that much nicer. So main thing, safety issue, those ramps, please get out and and go
observe those ramps. And one of my neighbors, uh, he'll be addressing you all soon. Uh, it's it's difficult to navigate it. People, uh, pedestrians and bikes that try to navigate it together, it's narrow. So, I really implore you all to check out the ramps. All right. Thank you very much.
Thank you, Daryl Griswald. Good evening. Um, my name is Joe Briswell. I live at 13137th Avenue in JS Beach. Um, when I bought my home about 20 years ago, the primary reason that I bought there was for beach access from This is my son Christopher, by the way,
in the wheelchair. Um, and in the beginning, I'm telling you, it was so nice. It was the ramp used to be straight through to the beach and we could put him in his beach chair. We could roll him down right to the beach. He could put his feet in the water and it was great. Um over the years, one of
the storms took out the bottom portion of the ramp and it was no longer we could only go halfway up and that was okay because he could still see the the beach. He could still see his friends coming and going. And then when they moved the dunes up, um he couldn't see anything. And I understand they had to
move the dunes, but he couldn't see. He would sit on the ramp, he couldn't see over the dunes, so he couldn't see the beach. Couldn't see anybody. We would sit there and still talk to our friends and neighbors as they came through. So, um, for years I sent emails to various
members of the council and, um, and I have all those emails, by the way, um, asking if they could just replace that ramp that was there. Um, finally, after about five, six years, it got replaced. And I was so happy that it was replaced
because, you know, it's what we been answering for all these years. when it got replaced. Um, and we went down and um the the the way it's configured the the the ramp is so steep going up. I can
barely get his wheelchair up and I won't even tell you when to get to the top. I won't even try to go down because I did one time and his wheelchair started slipping. It scared the hell out of me. So, we had to back up. So, we can still get to the top of the ramp and he can still see now. he can see where he
couldn't see before, but that's as far as he can go. And so, um, I was happy for that. And then after a while, when the after the first rainstorm or the windstorm, we went down there and it was two foot of sand. We couldn't get up anymore. And I would try to get up,
slack back down. I went over to Home Depot. I bought a snow shovel and a and a and a broom. I would go up there almost anytime we wanted to go and I would sweep. and my neighbors would come out and they would help me sweep and we'd shovel shovel the stand over. Um the next day it would just blow back on.
Um so you know um I'm just saying too that it's not as Michelle was saying it's not safe. It's not safe for us. It's not safe for beach buggies or bicycles or women with strollers. Um I've seen several people fall slip. You know, thank God it hasn't been serious.
Um when I I'll just close with this. when I was talking to my oh and actually Bill Horn has come out and swept the thing for me too and I thanked him for that. I can't believe that he did that but he came out on his own on a weekend and swept and cleared it off and then knocked on my door and said it's clear.
Um I was talking to one of the former members and I said to her um why won't you do this for what we're asking? And she said well because it's not an ADA accessibility and we don't have to do it. We're not required to do it. and I said, "Why don't you do it because it's
the right thing to do?" And that's all, you know, so I'm asking you guys, you know, it's the right thing to do. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Griswald. Roger Whiting. Hello. Roger Whiting, 11:03 Second
Avenue North, Jack Beach. Um, I'm here to address about the new building that they're planning on 6th that'll be coming here, I assume, pretty soon. I went to the meeting last Tuesday to hear the presentation from the applicant so I
can make a decision of whether to actually support it or not. Surprising enough, the presentation had been made a week prior at the committee briefing. Even though nothing was posted about any kind of a presentation or
anything at a briefing meeting, and I didn't even think that was allowed by rules, the whole presentation I was presented with was, "Well, we gave you our whole presentation a week ago, so if you don't have any if you have any questions, we're here to answer." That
was the entire presentation to the public. It's a little concerning. The other thing is the building is proposed to be 59 ft high. Second line item in your on their
agenda for what they're to consider is 35 foot maximum heights. I'm going to speak again. I will speak at their meeting next Tuesday to address my concerns with them. Thank you.
Thank you, Mr. Whiting. Brian Green. My name is Brian Green. I live at 3810 Tropical Terrace, Jacksonville Beach, Florida. Good evening, mayor, council members, and staff. My name is Brian Green, a licensed architect and licensed contractor in Florida. I'm here to share
serious concerns about the Dune walkover structures, particularly the one at 37th Avenue South. That walkover was permitted but has never received a final inspection or certificate of completion which does not comply with the Florida building code. Despite this, the public
has been allowed to use this non-conforming structure. This is not an isolated issue. Many dune walkovers built under the city's commission appear to be out of compliance, bypassing the required design, permitting, inspections, and certification processes.
Section 46468, excuse me, 604 of the Florida statutes requires the building official to review and certify all permitted structures before public use. In this case, and likely others, that has not occurred. Chief Building Official George Knight
sent me a follow-up email on May 5th, 2025 confirming the permit for 37th Avenue South is inactive and has never on undergone a final inspection despite supposedly meeting Florida building code requirements to receive the permit. On May 7th, I reviewed the city
commission permitted documents here in this chamber. I was closely observed by officials making the experience feel more intimidating than transparent. Within minutes, I identified significant design inaccuracies. During that meeting, I
asked Chief Building Official George Knight about the permanent approvals and why it was allowed. His response was shocking. He said, and quote, "All I do is make sure the documents are signed and sealed by a professional." Quote. When I reminded him that his duties per
Florida statute extend beyond those first steps, he replied, quote, "Things will go easier for me if I don't make such a commotion and that I need to act more civil, a direct threat." This felt like an attempt to
discourage a professional from raising valid safety concerns. This matter is about accountability, code compliance, and public safety. I have filed formal complaints with the Department of Business and Professional Regulation and the Department of Justice, as well as had multiple calls with the Department
of Justice to confirm ramp requirements related to this matter. Despite multiple emails to the mayor, city council, and staff, I have yet to receive a substantial response. City Manager Mike Stephanopoulos is the most elusive. He
does not provide a public email address and is nearly impossible to reach by phone. a concerning predicament for Jacksonville Beach taxpayers. This is not merely a procedural failure. It's gross negligence. The public, your sworn
duties and professional warnings have been overlooked amid inaction and red tape. Madame Mayor, when I addressed this with you directly, your response was, "Get it in black and white because that's all that matters." Then you declared, "This meeting is over."
petulently turned and left without further engagement. How will you respond now that the facts are out in the open? Let the record show this council, this administration, and this building and zoning department know about these problems and have yet to take appropriate action or fulfill their
duties. The responsibility lies with all of you. Every decision, every permit, every missed step, and every person who is unaware of the risks that these structures pose. If you think your titles, silence, or
bureaucracy will protect you, think again. So, here's your notice per your request, Mrs. Hoffman, in black and white. Exactly what you asked for. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Green. Kathy Jackson.
Good evening. Um, I'm Kathy Jackson. I live at 194 Bermuda Place, J Beach. Uh first of all, thank you for permitting me to speak before this council and thank you for your service, but I'm along with my uh neighbors here um on
the beach access of 37th Street. Uh we're grateful that it finally did get um rebuilt and it really is a beautiful structure, but there's two things that are really wrong with it. One of which is when you start to walk it. Um, and I
walk twice a day with all my neighbors. Um, pass by many of them and some of them are a little older and all of us have had difficulties when we go to step on the ramp particularly if there's dew on it. It gets very slippery and then
there's that uh thing of sand that the wind will blow up on it and so it's almost like a slide. Um, so as you're going up, you really do have to hang on to the handles as you're walking your way up because you don't know exactly where you're going to hit that point.
And I have watched one of my neighbors down the street uh fall. And so I just think that that that's one thing. The other thing is the fact that it is so steep. Um, I would never bring my husband down there who's in a
wheelchair. Um, because I could not actually get him up, you know, the ramp. Um, but, you know, I think that those things do need to be corrected because I think the beaches should be enjoyed by all. Um, I love living here at the beach. I feel very fortunate to have
been living here since 1986 and watch the place change and grow. um and actually become a community of of neighbors and businesses. Um but I really like you know things that are important like beach access be
addressed. Thank you very much. Thank you Miss Jackson. That is it for our speaker card. So we will move on to the consent agenda. I move to approve the consent agenda. Second. We have a motion and a second.
Mr. Sutton. Uh, thank you, mayor. I'm going to uh remove item D uh from the consent agenda and Mr. Stfopoulos will cover it as item B under city manager new business. Thank
you, Mr. Jansen. Uh, in reference to item did you say B? D. Removing item D and he will cover it as item B. We have a motion and a second to approve
the consent agenda. Less item D. All in or all in favor signify by saying I. I. Any opposed? Consent agenda less. Item D carries. Moving on to city manager, new business, Mr. Baron. Let's talk
sludge. Uh, mayor and council, thank you. Uh, this evening you have in front of you a a new contract for hauling sludge uh from the wastewater treatment plant. Uh most of you know in the processing of waste water, the one byproduct that we have to get rid of and
haul off is sludge. It's what's left after all of uh the processing happened at the plant. Um so we have a contract that does that. We got out of sludge hauling business several years ago uh long before I got here. Uh safety concern of being able to travel our
employees out to uh the landfill which is out on 301 which is a long way west of town. A lot of time driving on the road doing nothing but moving. So, we've gone to a new system where they bring us a truck, we fill up the truck, they come get the truck, haul it for us. Uh they just always keep uh at least one, if not
two trucks on site so that we can continue to uh run sludge uh pretty much every day or as needed. Uh it takes several days to fill a truck, but then they can move it out. So, this is for a new contract. Uh the recommendation here is for the the three-year contract with
a single two-year extension and then CPI is built into the um to the adj to the rates for adjustment. So there's not any need for much further negotiation as long as both parties agree to the extension. It would pretty much just be
bringing it um as a informality if it if it doesn't pass to be able to bring it to city manager and mayor for approval. If I have any questions, I'm a Thank you, Mr. Baron. Can we have a motion on section one? I move we award bid number
2425-05 to Revenue Incorporated for Sludge Hauling. Second. We have a motion and a second. Any discussion or questions from council? Madame clerk, roll call. Council member Golding, yes. Council member Horn, yes. Council member Jansen,
yes. Council member Sutton, yes. Council member Wagner, yes. Council member Wowers. Yes. Mayor Hoffman. Yes. Motion carries. Section two. I authorize the mayor and city manager to negotiate and execute any contract as a result of this
bid award. Second. We have a motion and a second. Any discussion or questions from council? Seeing none, madam clerk, roll call. Council member Horn. Yes. Council member Jansen. Yes. Council member Sutton. Yes. Council member Wagner. Yes. Council member Wowers. Yes.
Council member Golding. Yes. Mayor Hoffman. Yes. Motion carries. Section three. I move we delegate the authority to the city manager to approve and execute all subsequent contract renewals through the maximum contract term. Second. We have a motion and a second. Any discussion? Mr. Wagner. Just to
clarify the any additional contract terms just that one to your approval. Correct. Any other questions? Mr. Stabolis. Did you reference earlier that it's tied to CPI? Uh I did just make sure.
Any other questions or comments? Madam Clerk, we'll call. Council member Jansen, yes. Council member Sutton, no. Council member Wagner, yes. Council member Wowers, no. Council member Golding, yes. Council member Horn, no.
Mayor Hoffman, yes. Motion carries. Thank you, Mr. Baron. Uh, moving back to the item that was removed from the consent agenda. Uh, Miss Nelson, are you presenting this one for Mr. Stoples? Good evening. Karen Nelson, deputy city
manager. Um, you have in front of you uh an item to appoint or to approve the city manager's appointment of Molly Aliger as the city clerk. Um, you have a memo that defines our the process that we used to select the city clerk, but I
will go ahead and just summarize that for you all. Um, Sherry, our Sher Goss, our city clerk, is going to be retiring at the end of the month. So, with that in mind, we posted the city clerk position in at the end of February, and we left it open from February 27th
through uh March 31st, so for a full month. um we posted it nationwide. We received a total of 109 applicants. Of those applicants, only 12 candidates met the minimum qualifications. And of those 12, eight
had experience in a clerk's office. Um so of the 12 candidates, 10 were external candidates and two were internal candidates. So, we put together a a panel to screen and um select candidates, external candidates for a
telephone interview as a first step. We selected four external candidates. One of those candidates withdrew before we had a chance to do the um telephone interviews. And so with three external candidates, the city manager, the deputy city manager, and the HR director
conducted those telephone interviews, we selected from the external candidates one candidate to move forward to the next step along with the two internal candidates. And then a panel consisting of the city manager, deputy city
manager, city attorney, CFO, CIO, and the legal assistant interviewed the three remaining candidates um for the position. The panel agreed initially to extend an offer to the external candidate who was very wellqualified with uh 20 plus years
of experience as a village clerk in South Florida. Uh that candidate was we extended an offer to that candidate and she declined deciding that it wasn't the right time to relocate the family. And
so we reconvened the panel and as a as a group the six of us decided to extend an offer to Molly, one of the two remaining uh candidates, both internal candidates. Um you have with your packet
a copy of Molly's um letter and her resume which details her qualifications. Um and I I am here to answer any questions you might have. Molly is also with us tonight, so we can answer any any questions that you have.
I just want to say that um I know I I think I can speak for myself and the city manager that we have complete confidence in Molly's abilities. We've worked with her since 2021. Uh 23 in 22 she came up to the city
manager's office and since then she has just been um in an invaluable support to all of us in the city manager's office, all of you on the city council, to employees across all city departments and to the community in general.
Thank you, Miss Nelson. And a motion. I move we approve the city manager's appointment of Molly Alle to the city clerk position effective May 20th, 2025. Second. We have a motion and a second, Mr. Sutton.
Uh just a couple of questions either Karen for you or or Mike, either one. Um and congratulations Sherry. Um you'll be missed. I I think I've been around you for uh 20 years or a little more
than 20 years um back all the way to when we used to have the code enforcement board. So um you'll you'll be missed and appreciate your uh service. Um so question for you two. Was there ever any um thought as to
involving Miss Goslin in the interview process since that's probably the individual who has the most experience and would probably provide some in-depth input. We uh consulted with Miss Goslin
before we started the interview process just to get her takes on the position. However, she was out of country for how long was that, Cruz? A month, pre-retirement, month plus, if I recall correctly. Uh, she was out of country for a long period of time getting ready
for her, uh, retirement. So, she did not sit on the interview panels, unfortunately. Yep. I do think that's unfortunate. I think that's a missed opportunity there. Um so just very briefly um with two
really good internal candidates uh Miss Bird sitting there with three and a half years as the um deputy city clerk and a number of years before that in the department down there. Um what set if you could summarize what sets Miss
Alliger apart from Miss Bird? Um just in summary, sure the um the one thing that I think we've come to appreciate from Miss Alliger is uh her managerial and her leadership skill set that she brings to the table. Um the interview questions
that we put together actually throw covered multiple uh elements of what this job covers. Uh but one of the big things that we look for especially in leadership grade positions is u proven track record of leadership and Molly working as the assistant to the city
manager has had to work with the constituency of this community both the residents and the businesses. She's had to work with elected officials not just you but also elected officials from other uh agencies and communities outside agencies as well. um and also every department both the directors and
the senior management within our organization and she has been highly effective in doing all of that as well as being an exemplary role model model of our mission vision and values for the organization. Those are the things that set her apart and make her um a prime
candidate to put at the executive leadership team table for the organization. Thank you. And those were um either advertised or discussed as important to to the job going in. Yes, they were. Okay,
Mr. Jansen. Yes. I just want to say a couple things. Number one, Sherry, thanks for your time and effort and energy in the city clerk's office. You've always been highly responsive. whenever I call need an answer or clarification, you you're really quick on the spot, especially
during a campaign season which can get a little hairy at times. So, uh, thank you for the the effort and the work that you put forward and I hope you have Godspeed in your retirement. Enjoy your retirement. Secondly, I want to congratulate Molly. Molly, I know that um managing uh seven council members,
well, six council members and the mayor can get quite tedious at times and I will I know that I've had to reach out to you during travel and uh rare occasions that are on the weekends and after hours and you're always quick to respond. I know that that's not your
normal work hours, but it just shows you're uh that you're tenacious and that you want to get the job done and you you've shown me a really good work product. So, I think uh it's welld deserved at least from my seat and I appreciate
um the all the work that you've done and congratulations Mr. Horn. I'll just way to say one thing as I told Mike that it I think you'll do I think you'll do a great job. Um and I will say that it's difficult to put forward a very if you have an employee
working for you and they're very effective at what they do, you're almost hamstring yourself by letting them go and and do another position. But at the same time, I think you know this will be a good opportunity for you. So, but now Mike has to find some big shoes to fill. Yeah, I don't even want to talk right
now. I texted Molly today. I'm I'm very happy for you. I'm happy for your career path. I'm very sad for myself and for my colleagues on this dagas. Um you have and I was worried about you even moving over from parks and wreck. Um but you
did a spectacular job. You really built this role into um you you really just did a great job kind of elevating it. um and have been a great support to me. Um I can see why you're so good at handling the seven of us uh with the two small
children sitting next to you. So that's great uh on the job and uh transferable skills that you have there. I also really appreciate Mr. as long as he's been here has really looked uh to develop the talent within and I think that that is um while also
keeping an eye on the marketplace and making sure that we are we're seeing who else is out there and who else can bring um bring their talents to our city and exemplify our values. So um so I'm I'm interested excited for you interested to
watch this transition. Um, if you guys don't know Molly's family, I just want to recognize dad Walter, husband Rich, Lil Maya there, and Ezra who have come along. Hi Ezra. Mr. 100 mileer, right? Did I hear you ran 100 miles this year?
Oh, he's back to his phone. Good 130. 130 miles with those little legs. Good job, Ezra. Ezra, congratulations. Um, and Sherry, I also I Yeah, I just don't want to talk
anymore because this is a sad and happy day. Mr. Wagner, go ahead. Take it away. I'll turn my microphone off. I won't take up too much time, but you know, I do want to echo the sentiment. Sherry, just thank you for everything you've done and we really do appreciate
everything. And um, Molly, congratulations and thanks for everything you've done for us and everything you will do for us. I I do hope everybody appreciates the fact that a level of transparency is important and and I think appreciated by those on the
dis allow us to understand the process and so I I do appreciate uh councelor Sutton bringing this up so that we could understand it to kind of a greater level of detail and a greater level of transparency. So know it's not always the easiest and it's not always the easiest on on either side. So I do do
appreciate um everybody's role in that and then congratulations to everybody. Mr. Sentin and just one more comment um based on that Mr. Wagner I would ask Mr. Stfopoulos and Miss Nelson um in the future to not have items like this on
the consent agenda. I think it's important enough that um we we've had a nice discussion here and I would expect them to not be on the consent agenda. Thank you, Mr. Sutton. Any other comments or questions? I do also want to add the professionalism of the clerk's
office. I think you're my third or fourth clerk, and it's just it's really night and day from when I started. Um, and especially the management of the elections, which is when we have the most um consistent interaction with you, has been um it's just been a really
impressive change. So, thank you for your leadership on that front, Mr. Waters. Yeah, Miss Goslin, thank you so much for everything you did for me. You were always very kind to me and very helpful and I'll never forget it. And I did want to say I appreciate the comments of
Councilman Sutton. Um, thank you. Any other questions or comments? Madam Clerk, roll call. Council member Sutton, yes. Council member Wagner, yes. Council member Wowers, yes. Council member
Golding, yes. Council member Horn, yes. Council member Jansen, yes. Mayor Hoffman, yes. Motion carries. Congratulations to our new city clerk. And yeah, we'll do a photo after the meeting asking for a friend. When is
Molly's position going to be posted? Let's uh let's share that that job posting. We've got uh a a real set of shoes, big shoes to fill and a real high bar to to reach with this position. Uh see no further business. Is there a
motion to adjurnn? I move to adjurnn. Second. All in favor signify by saying I. I. Any opposed? I. Meeting adjourned. Thank you everyone. Pick.