WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 1 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=sjoIQCC_0v4 NOTE MEETING SECTIONS: Part 1 (Video ID: sjoIQCC_0v4): - 00:00:53: Meeting Call to Order, Roll Call, Agenda Overview - 00:03:06: Urban Trail Segment South End Update and Discussion - 00:06:06: Questions Regarding South End Trail Outreach Program - 00:08:16: Question on Additional Paving, Board Comments on Trail - 00:11:34: Passive Park Update, Ballard and Contractor Details - 00:14:28: Vegetation Type Questions and Simplicity Discussion - 00:17:40: Board Discussion: Review Plans, Communications, and Final Remarks - 00:19:14: Old Business Adjournment, New Business Introductions - 00:19:31: Farmers Market, July Meeting Schedule, Water Shortage - 00:22:57: Regional Water Restrictions, Education, and Reclaimed Water - 00:25:23: Cost Inquiry of the Flash Vote Survey Tool - 00:26:42: Flash Vote Incremental Cost to Use - 00:29:10: Flash Vote and Community Resident Distribution - 00:31:19: Quick Follow Up on the Flash Vote Survey - 00:31:56: First Street Speed Limit Indicators, Discussion with Sergeant - 00:35:43: Adjournment of Meeting Part: 1 1 00:00:53.600 --> 00:01:10.080 So ladies and gentlemen, good afternoon. This is the Monday, May 18th, 2026 Community Redevelopment Agency meeting. It is 3:00, so I'm calling this meeting to order. Uh, would the clerk please 2 00:01:10.080 --> 00:01:28.640 call the role? >> Gard Patel >> here. >> Ron Whittington. >> Megan Edwards >> here. Th Mosley >> here. >> Kevin Meyers >> here. >> Sydney Talcott >> here. >> Marcus Campy 3 00:01:28.640 --> 00:01:45.439 >> here. >> We have um all but one of our uh members here. So, Sydney, I think you're going to step up and fill in for for that spot. Thank you. Um, first item on our agenda this afternoon is courtesy of 4 00:01:45.439 --> 00:02:01.360 the Florida visitors. I have not received any specific requests or cards. Um, anybody else see anything, Madam Clerk? No. Okay, we'll move on to the next item of the agenda. I'm going to try to do this a little bit more 5 00:02:01.360 --> 00:02:16.160 efficiently. Um, I'd like to go ahead and do the meeting minutes approval for March 12th, 2026, the workshop session. Also, April 15, 2026, 6 00:02:16.160 --> 00:02:33.599 a workshop session, and then the April 27th, 2026 meeting minutes. Um, I personally have reviewed these. I don't have any comments myself, but uh, we'll open it to the board to see if there are any comments from anybody. corrections. 7 00:02:33.599 --> 00:02:50.160 I see that there aren't any comments. So, with that, I'll take a u take a motion to approve all three meeting minutes. >> I so move that we approve all three meeting minutes. >> Is there a second? >> Second. 8 00:02:50.160 --> 00:03:06.000 >> We have a a motion and a second approving all three meeting minutes. We'll do this by voice vote. All those in favor, please say I. I. I >> any opposed? Meeting minutes are approved. That'll 9 00:03:06.000 --> 00:03:21.360 move us on to old business. Um the first item under old business is uh the urban trail segment south end. And Taylor, I think this one uh will hand to you to lead us through. 10 00:03:21.360 --> 00:03:39.440 >> Yep. Um so this uh again under requested action, there's u not really any formal action we're seeking. This is more just kind offormational purposes. Um, and it's a little bit of good news. We, and by we, Trevor, myself, and administration, um, Jason all sat down 11 00:03:39.440 --> 00:03:56.400 and looked at, uh, number one, like what is realistic in the south end as far as the trails go, what's going to make sense and what's going to connect areas that otherwise maybe are lacking connection. Um, and really the the section that made the most sense, and we had brought this back before and said, 12 00:03:56.400 --> 00:04:12.799 you know, this piece from Jack's Drive up to Oyola where the park is, makes the most sense uh to go ahead and do. And so Trevor and I kind of started working. Um, we've got some contractors who are already under contract with us that do this kind of work and have been doing 13 00:04:12.799 --> 00:04:28.160 this kind of work um for the last what year and a half with us or so and have done an excellent job. um we feel very confident in their abilities and so we will be moving forward um to install an 8 foot wide 6-in thick concrete sidewalk 14 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:44.400 from Jacksonville Drive all the way to the South Beach Park entrance entrance, excuse me. Um I anticipate we'll be starting this here in the next couple of weeks. Um and something we're working on, you know, we're kind of trying to do a lot of our projects a little differently, especially capital 15 00:04:44.400 --> 00:05:01.120 projects. Um, so once we have kind of our final kickoff meeting with the contractor and we have their timeline of this is the date we're starting, you know, weather dependent and this is the date we anticipate finishing without, you know, any major delays. Uh, we will do like we've done on some other recent 16 00:05:01.120 --> 00:05:16.960 projects where we'll put together kind of a communications plan. So, there will be an internal email that will go out to council and to the CRA letting you know what the timeline looks like, how we're planning to communicate it, how we're planning to let residents know. Um, and we'll make sure we keep everyone involved um, throughout that process 17 00:05:16.960 --> 00:05:32.320 because, you know, there's nothing worse than getting your neighbor or somebody stopping and asking you a question and you have no idea and you get this deer in headlights look. So, we will make sure um, we're communicating that effectively both internal and external to the organization. Um, you'll see take 18 00:05:32.320 --> 00:05:48.639 two videos on it. There'll be a section on the city's website. Um, we will do both stagnant and uh, video posts um, across social media channels. Um, that is something I will say we've been getting a lot of positive feedback from the public on is how much we're putting information out there about what's going 19 00:05:48.639 --> 00:06:06.000 on. Um, and the project came in uh right under budget for what we have planned in this fiscal year. So, we don't need to amend the budget or anything like that. Um, happy to answer any questions. I have Trevor here um as backup in case there is something that I cannot answer. 20 00:06:06.000 --> 00:06:23.520 So, yeah. Taylor, I'm just going to quickly start with a couple of questions that I have. Um there's um there's an outreach program that's mentioned with the residents and so forth. What do you plan on implementing there with the residents 21 00:06:23.520 --> 00:06:39.280 and when will that be? >> Yeah, so next week we plan on reaching out to the residents that are immediately um adjacent. It's riptide and I have it written down on my desk. I have every person's name and address, but I cannot remember the name of the 22 00:06:39.280 --> 00:06:55.680 street. It's Tarpon or something along those lines. But it's those first the first left in Rip Tide and the first right. The back side of those properties will be the ones that immediately butt up to this. And we plan to do it just like we did with the passive park where those addresses get a personal one-on-one knock on the door, letter in 23 00:06:55.680 --> 00:07:12.319 the mail with opportunities to set up time to talk with myself or Trevor or whoever um to ask questions. And then outside of those that are immediately affected, then we will go um our normal route which is social media website, updates to council, updates to CRA, and 24 00:07:12.319 --> 00:07:30.240 then we will have QR codes posted where people can scan to get more information if they want it. Yeah, you know, I looked like you were trying to get this started under construction by early June >> and it's just, you know, this next phase of notifying residents and stuff with 25 00:07:30.240 --> 00:07:45.039 the holiday and everything is going to be a little bit a little bit tight, but hopefully we can make that happen. >> Um, the monies that are allocated and you said are just under budget, which is great. Um, does that include the 26 00:07:45.039 --> 00:08:00.240 contingencies and so forth that we typically carry on our projects? >> The item, the dollar amount shown here is all-incclusive of everything that they anticipate this costing us. And so, we don't foresee any reason that this should go over budget. We've got money there in case it does, but this is that 27 00:08:00.240 --> 00:08:16.479 all-inclusive number. Um, if for some reason we get started and it's looking like we don't have enough, then, you know, that'll be something we would come back to the CRA for, but we feel comfortable with the number. We'll sit down to talk about that. Okay. Um and then the last question that I or really 28 00:08:16.479 --> 00:08:33.519 has a comment um direct it maybe a little bit more towards Trevor. The uh city put up a white fence there along South Beach Parkway. At the south end of that fence, there's a segment. I'd say 29 00:08:33.519 --> 00:08:50.000 it's about 10 feet, maybe 15 feet in length from the existing sidewalk to Sunshine Court that's just dirt. Um, it would be nice if somehow that is paved because there's a lot of people that use 30 00:08:50.000 --> 00:09:06.000 the Sunshine Court as a way to walk down to the park. Also, um I you know hopefully you can take a quick look at that and and see if that makes sense to include as part of um part of this project. 31 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:21.360 I'll open it up to the board for comments, questions, um any further direction from anybody. Sydney, >> um I maybe I missed this. Um, but so if it uh the project will is anticipated to 32 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:39.440 start in early June, how long, just out of curiosity, how long would something like this typically take? >> Yeah, four to six weeks is kind of what we're thinking. So, um, it shouldn't be too long. This is one of those and it's like I almost want to knock on wood. I don't want to jinx anything, but it is a very 33 00:09:39.440 --> 00:09:56.320 straightforward project. Um, so four to six weeks we feel like is a pretty good amount of time. >> Cool. >> And again, obviously If we get something absolutely crazy where we have 10 days of just straight horrific downpour, that's obviously going to push us back. Um, but as long as the weather cooperates, it shouldn't take more than 34 00:09:56.320 --> 00:10:12.399 six weeks. >> Cool. That timing sounds great, too, for like end of summer. >> Yeah. Yeah. Awesome. Sydney, just along those lines, um I watched the activities along Jacksonville um drive where they did the um the trail 35 00:10:12.399 --> 00:10:28.560 and that segment in there which I is maybe roughly about the same distance if I'm not mistaken. >> Um went very efficiently, was done very well. I don't remember the exact time frame, but >> pretty similar. Just off the top of my head, I'd say it was total two months. 36 00:10:28.560 --> 00:10:46.959 By the time they finally put down the Sahad and and so forth, it was roughly a two-month period of time. But u it went it was very smoothly down along there. Megan >> Taylor, I know we had talked about this 37 00:10:46.959 --> 00:11:01.839 before uh about extending the urban trail down all the way down to like JTV. What was the status of that? Is that not part of this? Is that kind of dead? And I know that was just kind of discussion. >> It's not part of this. Okay. >> Um it's something that when we have a 38 00:11:01.839 --> 00:11:17.440 reallocation of funds October one, >> we could potentially look at that. But for this fiscal year, without having to modify and amend anything, this was the only >> real piece that we could get done. >> Okay. Thank you. 39 00:11:17.440 --> 00:11:34.320 >> Anything further? >> Doesn't look like a Taylor. I don't think there's an approval required on this item. So, uh >> No. No, it's in the budget. So, we are just happy to get started. >> Get started. I agree. I agree. >> Yeah. >> Um, next item is the passive park 40 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:49.839 update. >> Yep. >> Yep. So, this one, um, had no memo. Just figured I would surprise everyone. Um, I'm just kidding. So, at the time of having to publish the agenda, we were still kind of working through the details. Um, but what we are planning is 41 00:11:49.839 --> 00:12:05.279 to basically do the exact same thing with the passive park that we're doing with this trail segment. Uh, utilizing the same contractor to kind of go ahead and go in and do the passive park as well. Um, nothing that will deviate from the approved plans. Uh, we finally got 42 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:21.920 all of our approvals back. We got our certification that we don't need special environmental permits, that nothing is protect, you know, all of the regulatory hurdles. We finally have made it through. Um Trevor and I had a couple of little details we're trying to work out with um regards to some of the ballards 43 00:12:21.920 --> 00:12:37.279 uh and maintaining the design intent without being just obnoxiously expensive. Um but we will be moving forward with passive park utilizing the same concrete contractor. Our landscaping contractor that we have um under contract and then Vanguard is 44 00:12:37.279 --> 00:12:52.880 moving over lighting a bit. Yeah, want to make sure I misspeak. Um Vanguard will be helping us with all of the lighting components. Um, so we also anticipate this one starting very similarly uh around the same time and then we will have gone from not a whole lot to a lot of connectivity in that 45 00:12:52.880 --> 00:13:09.040 very short stretch. But we're very very excited to get started on this one as well. >> And when you say getting getting started, when are you roughly thinking about? This one may be a little longer out than um the trail segment just because like I 46 00:13:09.040 --> 00:13:25.440 said, we do still have to figure out some I don't want to say issues, but just some hurdles with some of the Ballard selections that were initially recommended. Um but what are we thinking late June? >> It'll be the same contractor. Yeah. And so they'll start they'll start work their way through and then they'll finish they'll continue right into that 47 00:13:25.440 --> 00:13:41.279 project. Probably >> they'll jump right into >> I'm sorry. I'm not sure I fully understood you said that. it. Um, they'll start with the sidewalk and then will they start at the south end and work their way north or 48 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:56.560 >> We haven't got into all those details yet. We we have issued the PO. We'll be looking to have a precon meeting here uh shortly, but I would imagine they'll start with the flow of traffic. We'll start at the entrance. We'll work our way to the park south and then it's the 49 00:13:56.560 --> 00:14:12.800 same contractor. When we get down there, there'll probably be some of that going simultaneous. We may even use the passive park as a part of the layown yard, but as they come through, complete the sidewalk. >> Um, we'll we'll at least do the the clearing and the sidewalk portion of the passive park. And then as we work through the details, the electrical, 50 00:14:12.800 --> 00:14:28.079 we'll make sure all the conduits in appropriately, we'll come back, install the stall the lighting. >> I appreciate it. Thank you. >> Could you please excuse me, could you please state your name for the record? >> Trevor Hughes, City of Jackson Beach, Parks and Recreation. >> Thank you. Thank you. 51 00:14:28.079 --> 00:14:45.839 >> Thank you. Yes. Um, my question is really to tailor. Uh, when we first looked at these plans when they came up for the folks downstate that passed them around a little bit before they did them, the um, ground cover and grass 52 00:14:45.839 --> 00:15:02.639 installations were extremely complex. There were at least a dozen different types in the plan. And I said that I thought simplicity would be an improvement. >> There are a couple of ground covers that I've used extensively that are very easy to maintain. and I'm sure Trevor's had similar experience and I asked if we 53 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:17.680 could take a look at that together. I've not heard back. I would hope we simplified that plan to some degree. I was hoping to have a little input into it, but I have not had a chance to date. >> Yeah, I think when that came up, I don't know that there was full consensus to go 54 00:15:17.680 --> 00:15:33.839 back as a board. Um, I think what the plan was was to take your recommendation because it was very valid and just make sure that whatever we're installing is native vegetation, lowmaintenance, and nothing that's over the top. And based on what I've seen, I don't know if you have any concerns, but I don't. I feel 55 00:15:33.839 --> 00:15:50.560 like it's very simple and straightforward. It's all there's different types of vegetation, but it's all >> Well, the last one we saw had quite a few different types of vegetation proposed by the original designer, >> right? Yeah. This still does. >> I wouldn't have wanted to maintain it. There's grass here, ground cover there. 56 00:15:50.560 --> 00:16:05.920 >> Yeah. You know, we we have to kind of tread this fine line of what's approved by city council, that's what's budgeted for, but then, you know, you have flexibility when it comes to the design intent. So, for like with these ballards, the exact ballard that the consultant recommended is like four 57 00:16:05.920 --> 00:16:21.279 times any other ballard. So, we're trying to find something that's design intent the same. Um, I think it's kind of the same with landscaping where we've learned our lesson on sometimes on some of these massive, very expensive projects that look great the first six months, but then it's so costly to 58 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:36.560 maintain or it's just unrealistic. So, our goal is to keep the design intent of having different vegetation so it gives something a little more visually exciting. Um, but making sure it's native and low maintenance. >> Well, let me ask the question another way. Has it been changed since the last 59 00:16:36.560 --> 00:16:52.079 set of plans we saw that had a lot of different things? Yeah, I mean because in the plans it was all still I mean the plans are the plans but the vegetation were just conceptual recommendations. Um and I know some of the more floral elements are not something that we're going to we're not going to go in there 60 00:16:52.079 --> 00:17:07.120 and install a bunch of flowers. >> Well, I've had a lot of fun just mowing a jasmine after I picked the beer cans out of it. Um some things are a lot simpler to maintain than others. I've also watched the original landscaping on 4th Avenue North that was quite ornate 61 00:17:07.120 --> 00:17:23.439 turned to doodoo over the years. Um so I do have an interest in this and I would hope that it has been simplified to where it's going to be easy to maintain because um if it's not it's going to be another of what have been over the many many years several landscaping 62 00:17:23.439 --> 00:17:40.320 disasters. >> So that's what I had to say about it and that's why I wanted to take a look at it after it was modified. But since I'm not going to look at it, I hope it's hope it's easy to take care of. Trevor, thank you. >> Let me let me ask this. The park is still a little bit further down the road 63 00:17:40.320 --> 00:17:55.760 for starting construction. Is it possible to take a look at the last plans and just have a quick overview of, you know, where where you're at. if that's something that the board as a whole wants to revisit. Um, obviously we're going to see what the direction 64 00:17:55.760 --> 00:18:12.559 is, but I don't think it's necessary in my opinion. >> It's not to revisit it as much as it is to make sure that >> that question is answered in reference to that. That that's the way I'm looking at it. just uh from that perspective 65 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:28.480 and I think it would take five minutes to take a look at that real quick and and then we we can go from there. Would would the board be interested in that or are we satisfied that you know what being proposed is 66 00:18:28.480 --> 00:18:43.280 >> well I've just been told by Trevor that it has been simplified. It will be easy to maintain. So I'm going to take his word for it. >> Okay. Okay. But I would have liked to have had a look at it a couple of months ago, but that's passed now. Thank you. 67 00:18:43.280 --> 00:18:58.640 >> Then uh I'll take that suggestion off the table. Um any other comments from anybody? Any thoughts? I don't see any. Um Taylor, do you need anything else from us in reference to that? Okay. 68 00:18:58.640 --> 00:19:14.160 >> The same process though as far as um communications. Once we have our pre-construction meeting, we'll develop out the communications plan timelines and then I think we've sent this out two or three times now, but we will do it with this one as well. Here's our communications plan. These are when 69 00:19:14.160 --> 00:19:31.520 we're planning to have updates and just keep the ball rolling. >> Okay, >> finally. >> Thank you. Um, that's all that I see on our agenda in reference to uh old business. We move into new business 70 00:19:31.520 --> 00:19:48.960 next. Is there anything I'll let you go first? >> Um, I have a short list, but I do have a list. Um, just a couple of things. Uh, reminder, every Tuesday we do still have the farmers market in Laam Plaza. It has been a huge success. Uh, it's 3 to 7 on 71 00:19:48.960 --> 00:20:04.160 Tuesdays. If you haven't been, you can find some of the best sourdough bread I've ever eaten. Uh, they have everything from bread to produce to dog collars. uh you name it. We have visited every tent numerous times now. Um I know the city hall staff are very grateful 72 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:20.640 that they're still out there setting up. So spread the word. Um and then tomorrow farmers market is 3 to 7. Um on the Seawwalk side, however, there is uh yoga from 6:00 to 7:00 as well. So if anybody's interested in yoga, that is also happening tomorrow. On Thursday the 73 00:20:20.640 --> 00:20:36.559 21st, there is a free Tai Chi class from 6:00 to 6:45 in Life and Plaza. Um I you know kudos to parks. They've been doing an excellent job in getting things programmed during the week and activating the space. So it's very exciting to see. Um our July meeting, 74 00:20:36.559 --> 00:20:51.679 our regular meeting is norm is scheduled for July the 27th. Um that will be changing because that was the only date that worked for leadership team uh as far as staff and then all of city council to have the city council retreat 75 00:20:51.679 --> 00:21:08.000 that we do annually. That was the only day that worked. Um, I told the chair this morning, so unfortunately that means we will have to figure out a different date for our meeting because I cannot be here and there at the same time as much as I wish I could. Um, so I'm going to work with the clerk's 76 00:21:08.000 --> 00:21:22.559 office and I will get a new date for that out and kind of do a poll and figure out what works best for everyone. Tenatively right now we do have a workshop schedule for whatever the second Wednesday is. >> July 15th. >> Thank you. I was going to say 13th, but 77 00:21:22.559 --> 00:21:38.400 yes, I think you're the 15th. As of right now, I think probably the simplest way would be to plan to move forward with that and if we need a regular meeting because we have action items, we just change that to a regular meeting and if we don't, we keep it a workshop. Um, so for now, if everyone wants to mark tentatively that that will be the 78 00:21:38.400 --> 00:21:54.480 July meeting. Um, and I will get something in writing to you guys here in probably the next week or two. Um, and then also the retreat is open to the public. It's from 8 to 4 in here. Uh historically we've had it at the parks building but I believe they'll be setting up for election stuff and that 79 00:21:54.480 --> 00:22:08.720 is why we will not be able to be down there. So we'll be in here um open to the public and it is a conversation. It's primarily council discussion. Um staff is there as support. So when they do have technical questions or any questions about projects we have going on we can help. Um but everyone is 80 00:22:08.720 --> 00:22:25.440 welcome to attend. And then I believe uh the clerk passed out two papers. Um this is our phase three extreme water shortage. So the water use advis advisory sheet that has that the very 81 00:22:25.440 --> 00:22:41.440 first line says water usage. This is actually from the storm water management district and then the one that has the CRA talking points. Those are my notes from our meeting this morning. Um so essentially the river water management district has declared phase three extreme water shortage for all of 82 00:22:41.440 --> 00:22:57.200 Duvall, St. John's, Nassau, Clay, Flaggler, and all surrounding counties due to uh drought conditions. Um this is the most extensive that they have seen um since about 2000 and some areas are even seeing a D4, which I guess is a lot 83 00:22:57.200 --> 00:23:12.559 worse than D3. Learned that today as well. Um right now the biggest thing for residents is residential irrigation is limited to one day per week. If your house ends with an odd number, uh you water on Saturdays. And if you're an even number home, you water on Sundays 84 00:23:12.559 --> 00:23:29.520 only. And you cannot do irrigation between 8 am and 6 pm. So either get up really early or stay out a little later into the evening. Um, importantly for us, the south end primarily uses reclaimed water systems. So we're 85 00:23:29.520 --> 00:23:45.280 anticipating pretty minimal um operational issues there. Uh, downtown, however, does not. And so as this if this stays ongoing or it is a prolonged issue, um we may see some effects downtown which will be very unfortunate. 86 00:23:45.280 --> 00:24:01.600 Um and so again, out of our meeting, you know, we're being encouraged to proactively plan. Trevor and his team are very aware of all of the restrictions and what we can and can't do. Um but we just wanted to I wanted to make sure you guys were aware of what's going on. and you will see messaging 87 00:24:01.600 --> 00:24:18.080 starting to come out from the city today and kind of ongoing um explaining to residents what you can and can't do. Our biggest goal and what we kind of came out of our meeting today with we really want to push education. You know, we're not trying to find someone watering their grass on a Tuesday and, you know, 88 00:24:18.080 --> 00:24:33.600 go freak out. We we just want to educate the public on, hey, this is why this is happening. This is the quickest way to get through this kind of here are the rules, here are the parameters. Um, but if you have questions, uh, we're encouraging everyone to reach out to the River Water Management District. Um, and 89 00:24:33.600 --> 00:24:49.600 if you for some reason can't get a hold of anyone there, then you can reach back out to us here at the city and we can help as best as we can. Um, a big takeaway though, if you get questions or people ask about it, this is not a Jacksonville Beach thing. This is not us. This this is a regional I mean, it's 90 00:24:49.600 --> 00:25:06.240 not even just a county. This is a regional issue. Um, and we don't we don't really have um a say in the matter at this point. So, just keeping everyone informed and uh yeah, if anyone has questions, we encourage you to reach out to them or you can reach out to us and we will help you as best as we can. 91 00:25:06.240 --> 00:25:23.120 >> Okay, that's all that you have for new business. >> That's all I have. >> Okay. >> Yes. >> Thank you from the board. Any new business items that any board member has? I hope I'm sorry. Go ahead. 92 00:25:23.120 --> 00:25:39.760 >> Just a question. Um on the flash pole, um how much did that cost? Do you >> I have absolutely no idea. >> That is um with communications. It's their contract, so I'm happy to ask and find out. Um but it is a service that 93 00:25:39.760 --> 00:25:55.840 the city has contracted. It wasn't a CRA service. just just just curious because it looked like a great poll, but when I first got your communication on Thursday and called immediately after and my problem was that um my only option was to send it, not to look at it. I 94 00:25:55.840 --> 00:26:12.080 couldn't see it >> the moment that that you sent it out and I don't send out things I can't see. So, I send it out. >> I also called Mr. Board with the same question. Didn't hear back there either from either one of you. So, whatever. But it looked like a great survey when 95 00:26:12.080 --> 00:26:27.039 it was finally completed. No problem with that. I was just sort of curious as to what that sort of thing would cost because it's looks to be super efficient. >> I will find out. I'm not sure. >> Just plain curious as to what it cost to do that because it might be something 96 00:26:27.039 --> 00:26:42.720 that we would like to undertake >> for some of the activities that we may be considering. And >> yeah, >> cost would be a factor of concern. >> I will say being says it's um a service that we now have under contract. as long as that contract is alive and well, we're able to utilize um for any 97 00:26:42.720 --> 00:27:00.000 surveying needs we may have. Um so that's a bonus for us that we get to utilize this and um this will be the first survey that we've done with Flash Vote as a CRA. >> So no uh no incremental cost to use it as long as it's under contract. 98 00:27:00.000 --> 00:27:16.720 >> I mean there's always a cost, right? Um no and and the way we budget internally because we are a essentially a function of the city but we are we have our own increment revenue funds that's what fund and sustain us. So in our budget there are line items for city clerk for parks 99 00:27:16.720 --> 00:27:33.679 for admin communications and those are just charges that we basically pay back to the city for utilizing those departments. So that would be a the reason we get to use it for free is because we pay a portion of cost towards administration on an annual basis. And 100 00:27:33.679 --> 00:27:48.640 so anything that they have I'm able to utilize. >> Well, just curious as to what it would cost somebody if we >> Yeah. >> if we were to want to do a survey because it looked like it could be quite handy for some of the things that we may be considering 101 00:27:48.640 --> 00:28:06.240 >> over the next period of time. >> Yeah. I was a had not seen a survey like that one before and you know just a quick 48 hour segment and uh I was pleasantly surprised a little concerned about the time frame initially but then when I saw 102 00:28:06.240 --> 00:28:22.799 the results I thought the results were were very good very interesting >> um I think there were 330 respondents something like that >> yeah which for I mean for surveys coming from a municipality that's it excuse 103 00:28:22.799 --> 00:28:39.279 That was a pretty good amount. Um, I think we were all nervous. I know Trevor's probably dealt with this, too. When you hear a survey is going to be open for two days. At first, we were all like, "What?" But it does help to not, you know, kind of skew that data a little bit because what you have happen 104 00:28:39.279 --> 00:28:55.279 sometimes is it's open for two or three weeks and then somebody just goes in constantly and just consistently they, you know, might have voted on a shark like a hundred times for a art installation. I never did that. I don't know who would do that, but somebody 105 00:28:55.279 --> 00:29:10.880 could have done that to try to skew the data to get something. So, no. >> Yeah. Um, >> so did so then did that survey go out to all of the residents within the the building? >> It does not. Um, I wish someone from 106 00:29:10.880 --> 00:29:27.600 communications was here. Somebody's listening and y'all want to pop down. Somebody come down. Uh, but it does not go out to every single person in Jack Speech. Flashbo initially when we they we signed up with them they have their own methodology of collecting different 107 00:29:27.600 --> 00:29:43.760 people's contact info whether it's phone numbers, email addresses, you name it. Um I will say they don't typically um send a link that you're able to share to then also pass out to friends, family, constituents. Um that was something that I did request because I 108 00:29:43.760 --> 00:29:59.520 said, you know, this is the first time we've done a 48 hour survey. We're fine with it going out through Flash Boat's database, but I would also like a link just to have that kind of comfort level that we can share. Um, but I technically don't even want to attempt to speak to how their data works, but I'm happy to 109 00:29:59.520 --> 00:30:14.159 talk with communications and I can send a follow-up email just kind of explaining how they get their contacts and who it actually goes to. Um, >> yeah, because I think if I remember the information we received initially was that, you know, we're going to be 110 00:30:14.159 --> 00:30:30.480 sending this out. It'll be available to you for distribution. >> Yes. >> And u I don't know from you we know exactly where we distributed it to, but I I know personally it did go out to our community. >> Yeah. 111 00:30:30.480 --> 00:30:46.080 >> That I live in because >> you know wanted to see that we had a reasonable number of responses to that sort of thing. >> And that you know that's not something that flashboat standard like they don't normally do that. Um but when like I said when we 112 00:30:46.080 --> 00:31:04.000 were kind of talking through this um I said is there any way that for this first survey at least we can get a link so people can share and they were you know fine with that. Um but it is it's a panel of Jacksonville Beach residents that they somehow collect the data. 113 00:31:04.000 --> 00:31:19.440 Again I will talk to communications and get the exact it sounds like it should be so simple. I just really don't want to misspeak because it's not my area of expertise. Um, but I will ask how they get their data. >> Okay. 114 00:31:19.440 --> 00:31:36.080 Um, does anybody else have any other business items? >> Just a quick follow up on the flash. Um, uh, one really nice feature that I like you never experienced with surveys like this is that we were sent an email with the results so that we could kind of see 115 00:31:36.080 --> 00:31:56.559 how our point of view stacked up against our peers. So, I really loved that. That was good for just like community engagement overall, I would say. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Anything else on that subject? >> No. Uh, one I guess last item. I just 116 00:31:56.559 --> 00:32:12.559 have questions. Taylor recently noticed that on First Street there are a couple indicators for speed limits on the couple poles. Do we know what that's in reference to? Is this part of the education that we 117 00:32:12.559 --> 00:32:28.559 talked about as it relates to First Street and how First Street should function and things or is this something totally different? >> The speed indicators. Didn't somebody reach out to you and ask about these the other day why they're there? 118 00:32:28.559 --> 00:32:48.399 >> Do you want to share with class, >> please? >> Yes. They they they're serving a purpose. Okay. Cohill. Good afternoon. >> Name for the record. >> Yes, sir. >> Sergeant David Cohill, Jacksonville Beach Police Department. Okay. 119 00:32:48.399 --> 00:33:04.480 >> So, about the speed indicators at the stop sign at Beach and First. So, those um speed signs are used as part typically as part of a traffic complaint. So once a citizen business owner um submits a complaint, it gets 120 00:33:04.480 --> 00:33:19.760 through the proper channels eventually it lands on the desk usually of the traffic sergeant who will then utilize these signs which gather data for car counts, average speeds, maximum speeds, etc., etc. As kind of a numbers geek, 121 00:33:19.760 --> 00:33:34.799 it'll print out all kinds of graphs and charts and just about everything you want to know. um the traffic sergeant will utilize this data to either validate or dismiss the traffic complaint. So, they're out there. Um and I'll go ahead and put it 122 00:33:34.799 --> 00:33:51.360 on the record. Uh because I'm the I think the one who bought the signs years ago. Uh even if they're not on, they're working. They're collecting the data. Um but a lot of times some people will play a game where if they see the speed, they'll see what they can uh you know, high score wins. So, a lot of times we'll just turn them off to uh allow the 123 00:33:51.360 --> 00:34:07.760 police department to gather all of the uh the data for the vehicles that are passing in the area. >> I see. Okay. >> Any questions about signs? >> Again, when do they get activated? I mean, because right now there's no indicator as to what the speed is at 124 00:34:07.760 --> 00:34:23.119 some >> correct. Once they're put up, uh, they're usually, uh, we look for about a seven-day time period, but a lot of times we'll just only muscle the batteries run dead, at least not used to. That way, you can just get as, uh, as much data as possible. So, just 125 00:34:23.119 --> 00:34:38.480 because they're not on doesn't mean they're not working. They're they're gathering what that traffic sergeant needs to be able to look at the complaint. >> Okay. Well, it's interesting because I I thought when I first saw them that maybe we were doing that as part of the beginning of an educational program that 126 00:34:38.480 --> 00:34:54.800 we talked about as we discussed first street recently. >> Yeah. >> Um >> does not mean that there cannot be overlap in why we use the data. >> No, actually >> I'll just say that there there can always be lots of overlap and the more that we can use you know if one set of data can be used for six different 127 00:34:54.800 --> 00:35:10.480 things fabulous. Typically, if you see the signs, they're going to be as a response to a specific complaint and they are not tied to anything else. Uh, you know, much longer term planning by this body or anybody else. >> And I'm sure in the near future, we'll 128 00:35:10.480 --> 00:35:28.240 have some further conversations about First Street and, you know, how we do that educational component and then what else we need to ultimately do with with First Street. I think that's something we were waiting to after the um this upcoming council 129 00:35:28.240 --> 00:35:43.440 retreat and then getting some of their input and priorities and then going back to uh our discussions on First Street. So, okay. Anybody have any comments, questions? Okay. Thank you, Sergeant. 130 00:35:43.440 --> 00:35:59.920 With that, uh, we've pretty much, um, gotten through our agenda. Other than any final items for discussion, I just No. Okay. With that, I'll take a motion to adjurnn. >> Motion to adjurnn. 131 00:35:59.920 --> 00:36:11.680 >> We have a motion. Do we have a second? >> I'll second the motion. >> Second by voice vote. Um, all those in favor of adjourning, please say I. >> I. I.