Good afternoon. Um this is the October 22nd, 2025 uh special magistrate hearings. Um and we will open with uh the clerk's announcements, please.
The purpose and function of the Jacksonville Beach special magistrate hearing in accordance with Florida statutes chapter 162 and the city of Jacksonville Beach code of ordinances is to reach an equitable expedition to enforce the codes. The city presents the
violation and evidence to the special magistrate. Next, the property owner is sworn in in response to the violation and evidence. Both the city and the property owner may call witnesses to provide sworn testimony relevant to the case. This is a quasi judicial hearing,
not a public forum. Individuals not called as sworn witnesses will not be heard. >> Uh thank you very much. Uh we'll proceed with our agenda and uh uh first on the agenda is
case number 25-345. Uh, Linda Huffman, >> I don't know. >> She needs the headset. >> We just started, so you're fine. Okay, we'll continue. Miss Huffman, can you hear?
>> No. to push the box. Uh, how's this now? Okay, thank you. Um, it's a case number 25-345. Um, and I would ask anybody who's going
to be speaking to please be sworn in now. Uh, please raise your right hand. State your name and position. >> Nikki Beveris Walker, City of Jacksonville Beach Code Enforcement Officer. >> Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give in this
matter is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth to help you? >> I do. >> And what you do, Miss Huffman, please. >> Sure. >> Does she need to go to the podium just so we can get your
Thank you. Um, please raise your right hand. State your name and address. >> Linda C. Huffman, 5016th Avenue South, Jacksonville Beach, Florida. >> Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give in this
matter is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So, help you God. >> Yes, I do. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Okay, Miss Miss Bever. >> Okay. Um, this is case number 23-
I'm sorry, that should say 25-345. Um, case number address 5016th Avenue South. This is in reference to a nuisance violation, an accumulation of junk trash
and debris that was located on the property in the rear yard. This is the front of the property. This case was started back on May 7th. As you can see, the debris that had
accumulated in the rear >> the grass was cut yesterday. Again, >> as you can see, these are just different. >> I can't read the date on the >> This is September 24th on this one. >> Okay. The one just prior to that. the
one prior to that August 26th. >> Okay. >> September 24th. >> Yeah. It's just the light is shining on that particular >> Okay. >> I just can't read the date. >> Yes. >> What are the dates on those?
>> This is September 24th. I don't understand why the October 9th, but I do have um on my phone the um that I can show you. the property was still in violation. Um during our last hearing, >> I see them in the packet.
>> Yes. Okay. Um during our last hearing, you ordered that we go and do a follow-up inspection, me and David Martin, to do a follow-up inspection um to see if the violation had been
complied. If that violation had not been complied, a fine of $250 per day would begin. Um, as you can see in the packet, the violation still existed.
And my recommendation is that the $250 per day fine begin as of October 9th. >> As of when? >> October 9th. I'm basically >> Please wait,
>> Miss Huffman. Um, Miss Beavers, have you been Today is October 22nd. Have you been back by since then? >> No. Once the violation was not complied on the 9th, it was ordered that the fines begin. So, I did not follow up after that.
>> Okay. So, we don't know what it looks like today. >> No, we do not. Okay. Um, is there anything else you want to add at this at this? No. Okay. Um, Miss Huffman, would you like to uh testify?
>> Yeah. You came over on the 9th with I don't know what his name is. Did you say it was David? >> Yes. >> Okay. You didn't tell me that Vine started that day. You made it sound like you weren't even going to be here today. >> Mrs. Huffman.
>> And well, >> can you speak to me, please? >> Yeah. Okay. And she told me, she said, you know, it's going to be on October 23rd, the hearing. So I thought that I had until today and I and she told me
she said, "Can you bring some photos with you?" And I said, "Sure." So I've got the photos. Would you like to see those? >> Uh yes, in just a moment. But I I do want to correct one thing that did you receive a copy of the of my order
of your order that I signed um from after the hearing in September that we had. Did you receive a copy of my order? >> I've received a lot, but I mean, what was Are you talking about the $250 a day? That wasn't in September. That was
the first meeting in October. >> We haven't. This is the meeting in October today. >> No, there was one before this. There's been two before this. >> There was one in September, >> right? >> And I signed an order um that after that
hearing in September, >> right? And in that order, that was the one where we talked about the October 9th date. And it says that you m that you would clean up the remainder of the rear yard no later than October the 9th,
excuse me, October the 8th, 2025, and that you agreed that you would allow access to the rear yard by Miss Beavers and Mr. Martin together on October the 9th. see that you did that to confirm compliance
>> and that if you and uh it went on to say that should you fail to comply with the requirements of section one or section two then you would pay you would be uh fined $250
per day until compliance with this order is is achieved. This is my order and this is what we discussed at the last hearing. >> But on the 9th, she didn't tell me that that it was starting that day. >> It doesn't honestly it doesn't matter
what she said. What matters is what's in the order. So, um, perhaps there was some confusion or you didn't hear her properly, but I doubt that she said something different than what >> she didn't say anything that when she
was there with the with the man, I forget his name. >> Mr. Martin. >> Mr. Martin. She was with him on the 9th. >> Yes. >> And she never said, "Okay, the fine starts today." She said the next hearing is on
the 23rd. >> Well, the order says the order says the fine start today. And when it said today, it meant it said >> well she did. But I what I'm saying two people in the government was on my property. They didn't say okay well the
fine starts today. >> She didn't they didn't excuse me. They didn't need to say anything about that because the order already said it. >> Wow. That's tricky. Okay, let me >> You agreed to it, by the way, in September at the hearing.
>> No, I didn't agree to $250 a day. I don't have $250 a day. Judge, please just listen to me for one moment. I'm going to be 71 in two months. My father died of colon cancer.
I get colon screenings. I have been getting them every five years. It's been three and a half. He wants me in. He's been wanting me in. I am having trouble. My poop is little pebbles and that is a
bad sign. Okay. I went through this with my father. He died at 71. 72 I think. But um it was close to se closer to 71. I h I have to get this colonoscopy.
I also have a hernia which has been exasperated with all of this because I live alone. Okay. I don't have any children. She was killed by a drunk driver here when she was 28.
When she was 20 right on beach. Okay. And I won't go into to take your time, but I was on my way home from work. She worked with me at City Cards and had just had her first anniversary
and she lived on San Pablo Road. And as I'm going down Butler Boulevard, I just it was a bad rainy day and I I'm coming down Butler Boulevard because I took four hours off and I hear about the crash on Beach Boulevard and I'll never
forget hearing Linda Baker. She was on um an FM station. She said there's been a crash over the inter coastal bridge on Beach Boulevard, but she didn't say where it was. But I knew right away that that
could be my daughter because my grandson went to um Seabbze, you know, on if you lived on San Pablo, the kids went to Seabbze and then he would take a bus to the beaches boys and girls club and then she would pick them
up. I usually work till 1000 p.m. that night because of the weather. It was, you know, on and off raining. I asked if I could get 4 hours off and I left at 5:40 instead of 10:00 and I'm driving down Butler
and I felt this giant anchor in my stomach and I thought, well, I'll get up at San Pablo because it didn't say where it was on Beach, just over the bridge. And this was before they had the divi the dividers and it was still a um
drawbridge. And I went by her apartment. Her apartment was near the road. It was closest to the um laundry room, the pool, the tennis courts, you know, right there on the road, the mail room. And she always parked where I could see
the car. And it was an SUV. Unfortunately, it was a Ford Explorer. And um anyway, she was heading back to San Pablo Road from the Boy Beach's Boys and
Girls Club. She had had um picked him up, picked up Al. And um something that I never knew until years later was that she always made him sit in the back seat in the middle. That's what saved his
life. But, uh, this young man who worked at the car wash up in Atlantic Beach, um, was driving his sister's mother's car and they had closed up the car wash
because it was a rainy Friday and they went to Dick's Wings and he wasn't carded and even if he had been, it was a fake phony card, phony license. And um he as he was going back to the beach, he
swerved onto the grassy null because this is before the barriers were built and he hit the driver's side rear corner of the Ford Explorer.
the it rolled um it spun around and rolled two and a half times and threw her 30 ft in the air. And I heard about this crash and I when I got to Beach Boulevard from San
Pablo when I got off of Butler, there she was. There she was. And um >> so Mrs. And I I what I'm trying to say is then,
you know, I I raised my grandson. I spent every dime that I had on improving the house in the last month. New gutters, a new fence. The original
um violation was a dilapidated fence. Now, since last Saturday, judge, I have found out a lot of information about how this code enforcement
uh was filed. And um a neighbor next to my neighbor uh told me that pressure was being put
on code enforcement to get me to give up. To get me to give up and sell the house. They wanted to buy the house so they connect could connect their house to my house.
They wanted me to sell it like in a fire sale price and I had been talking to my grandson about um some things that had to be done on the house and he said, "Grandma, go ahead and do it." He's been saying it and then when this happened, I
said, "Heck, we're not just going to do the fence. We're going to do everything and clean everything up." So, unfortunately, I've had my house broken into the um person.
>> When was that? >> Um it was a couple of weeks ago. Um Well, >> did you report it to the police? No, because I knew who did it. And um they they had somebody lift the
um sliding glass doors. There's one to the master and one to the living room. They're, you know, they meet each other kind of in that corner. And um the lock had been already I needed to to
get new sliding glass doors, but I was able to go in and out, you know, slide. It was sliding and somebody somebody lifted it that same night. I heard a on my bedroom window and it wasn't a
man's knock. It was a woman. said that you know who the person is, but you decided not to report. >> I I talked to her husband about it. And um >> Okay. I appreciate all this information, but we need to stick with the issue at
hand. >> Well, my issue is I need three operations. I need a bladder operation. I need a colonoscopy. And I need a hernia operation. And it's exacerbated by all of this lifting and
leaning over and everything. And I don't have an I I don't have any money left because we've spent all of it on upgrading the house and you know outside so it would look nice. I do have photos that I've taken
today. >> Okay. That I would like you to see. >> Can you come forward please? >> Sure. Uh, Miss Beavers, would you come uh forward also? >> I have one area
left. >> First, show them to Miss Beavers, please. >> Get to the beginning. Oops. Okay. This is the west. >> No, I want you to show Miss Beavers first. >> All right. This is
This is the west side of the house. You know, um George and George. >> Can you see them, Nikki? >> Yes. But that's not the side. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, this is looking out. That's the new gutter. That's the shed. I put a
shed in. >> Okay. We need to see the other side. >> Okay. This is the back side, you know, the fence line. Okay. All right. I just want to show you it's cleaned up. The west side, this is the uh the master bedroom side. The two
windows there is the bathroom that is completely clean. I know it's dark, but that's been cleaned up. Okay. >> Okay. That's almost never an issue. >> All right. Well, the whole property This is this Miss uh
Miss Huffman. These are the pictures. Would you please please look at me? Right here are the pictures that were taken October 9th. Do you have new pictures of this area? >> One area of it right there
with the notebook. What are you talking about? Okay. Now, what you're worried about was this. This is >> It's still there. >> This is It's not there in like that. And
he took a a broad picture. >> Okay. So, >> well, why don't I just, you know, I'm a taxpayer. I'm a taxpayer for 36 years. >> I'm 70. Yes. I'm sorry, judge, but I
feel like I'm being persecuted here. What is the problem here? I know that I needed to clean it up, but I had to do Okay. >> October 9th show. >> All right. You said you didn't care about this, but
I'm showing it to you because >> it's the my property. Okay. areas that are not at issue. >> The whole propert the whole backyard I was told is at issue. Okay. >> It wasn't just that. It was the whole
thing. And I was happy to clean it up. That's the back fence. That's the side fence. Okay. >> Okay. >> And this is the patio. And this is that's looking west. This is
the back of the house. >> Can you put it back? No, the other way. >> What? >> What area is that? >> That is the bedroom. The back of the house is here. So, you're upset because
there's an empty garbage can there. >> No, I haven't said a thing about it. >> Okay. This area is what he was showing in that broad shot. Okay. I cleaned that up. I cleaned that up. I
cleaned that up. I cleaned that up. I clean that up. I clean that up. I clean that up. I clean that up. >> Let me see if there's another one. That's the backside. That's master bedroom window. There's nothing there.
This is the part that I have to finish. And I'm sorry, but I can only do so much. Okay, I have to, you know, sort out things. I'm throwing out things. I have things that I can put in the shed, but I
have had a lot to do and I also have to stay afloat financially. >> Oh, can you send this photo photo? How can I get this one photo, Miss B? I did clean out about do you see
that's the um this is the sliding door that I'm talking about and then that's the one to the master. So I did clean out you know and then you're not able to see at this the back side of it which is cleaned out. >> Okay. Is there any other picture of this
area? >> Is there any other what >> photograph of this area? >> No, I don't think so. I was in a hurry to get out to get out here. >> What's this? Right. >> Okay. So, >> I need a little more time.
>> I have doctor's appointments. I have >> So, thank you. Oh, you can stay at the podium if you like. >> Oh, okay. Um, >> I just need a little more time and I have to get the hernia operation because
it's it's creating a mess with everything else inside. >> Well, um, Miss Huffman, that's exactly what you told me told me in on September 24th. You just needed a little more time. You said you needed two weeks. We
>> That's not enough to heal from surgery. So, I said, talking about what has already transpired on September 24th. You told me you needed several weeks and you said you needed until October the 8th and so that's why we set the October
9th for the date of compliance and um you know so we've been I feel like I have been very very um >> I they did not they were both there that day. They did not >> Please don't interrupt me.
So I feel that uh I believe that uh the city has been um more than uh generous in trying to with time. We this started back in May. It is now almost the end of October.
>> It didn't start in May. >> Miss started in Octo in September. >> No, Miss Huffman, it didn't. I've This is This is the third time I've seen you. So clearly it didn't start. >> No, it didn't start in May.
>> That was the date. >> Man, I'm dying. I'm dying because I can't get a goddamn operation. Excuse my French and I've done a darn good job cleaning up that property. I
put a lot of money into this. So did my grandson. And that's what this is about. My next door neighbor doesn't want a black person living next to him to them. That's what it's about.
I know who called code. I know exactly who put pressure on code and I noticed that she was different. Nikki was different this time. She had more pressure on her.
And I'm sorry, but I guess my health means nothing to the city of J Beach after 36 years here. 36. So, >> and you know what's happened in 36
years? My husband at the time in 1989 when we moved here got into drugs and alcohol. Okay. Then we got a divorce. Then he died at the age he he died at 34.
>> This husband I'm going to >> then my daughter was killed by a drunk driver. >> I've lost everything >> and I'm not going to lose this house. >> I can't hear you. I'm sorry. It's Sorry. Um, so I'm going to rule today
that you are u I'm going to give a little bit of leniency. What I'm going to do is have the um fine start as of today and I'm going to instead of $250 a day, I'm going to make it $100 a day.
>> I can get it done today. >> Allow me. Do not interrupt me. And I'm going to require you to call Miss Beavers. Contact Miss Beavers either through email or by phone.
Contact Miss Beavers and when you have cleaned it up so that you can show that you have come into compliance. >> Okay. Ma'am, I just want to say one more thing. I'm I you know I lost a husband, a
child, and then I lost my grandson to the system for 10 years and two months. When my daughter was killed, I stayed out of the lawsuit because I had two grandchildren
and I wanted them to have all the money. And that's how Al ended up being able to pay for all of the upgrades on the house, you know, and I just I've been through so much losing
people. My daughter was my only child and she worked with me at city carts in the fraud department where I had worked 20 years. >> I I didn't I do understand >> and I but I just but I just want to say
one thing. That pile that's under the roof instead of drugs and alcohol, what was making me feel better? And I know this sounds so shallow, but you
know, I had memories of my marriage, my ex-husband who was dead at 34 from alcohol and drugs. After our divorce, my daughter was killed by a drunk driver. My grandson got into trouble with some other kids.
And the only thing that made me feel good, I didn't want to do drugs or alcohol, was shopping. And that pile, you know, everything I bought had meaning. And I just want you to know I'm peeling
away from that. My grandson's home now. He's not living here because he got a um he got a horrible um well, he wasn't he's he hasn't been, you know, he's been to the house, but
he's not living at the house because the police, the Jack Beach police, like bumper cars were driving all over our property. I live on an easement letting him know, you know, that they know that he's back, you know, from his
time. And so he's not going to even live with me because he doesn't want to be harassed. He's in his time. And I've lost now. I I don't have him to live with me. And I was so looking forward to it. And I'm just peeling away from the
only little things that gave me comfort. And I know it got out of hand, but it be doing drugs and alcohol. >> When you um when you come back, then you when you call Miss Beavers to and Mr.
Martin can come with her. Um let them know when you've just all you need to do is get it out of the backyard. >> Yeah. I mean, it's the only part. Everything else is done. >> But you've got to get it out of the backyard. I know that. >> So,
>> just concentrate on that. >> Yes. >> As quickly as you can. >> And then the other thing too, Judge, is that um I had ordered I had talked to the guy on the back of the garbage truck. I said, "I'm going to need at
least one more um receptacle, too, if you can give it to me." And he goes, "I got you." And then, you know, drove off. And then the next pickup, he didn't have the cans. And I said, "What happened?" And he said, "I forgot. I got you." And
then I didn't get him the next one. So then I called the um because I thought, "Well, maybe I should have put a paper order in or something or called somebody else." So I got a hold of uh someone named Jason at Public Utilities. And that took him a couple of days. He said,
"I really don't have extra ones, but I'll try to find you some." So he only had one extra. So that was another issue. >> And has he brought it to you now? >> Yeah, now I have it, but I've only had it for a couple of days. But um the
trash today was not um picking up. They're picking up tomorrow. They pick up Monday and Tuesday. Today was yard trash, not um you know, stuff
that you're throwing out. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I've been yelling. I'm just It's all come down. And a neighbor of mine is the one who came to somebody who knows me who said,
"This is what's going on. She wants your house to connect it. She wants you to give up." She never they never thought, "Well, I I talked to George about it." And he listened and he was outside
raping in front of his house and he just shook his head and he said, "I'm sorry." And then they dropped the wreath and walked into the house. And I haven't talked to him since, but that's what she wanted to do. She wanted
to get a hold of my property because of the easement. She thought she could build on the easement and you can't because there's wires and p, >> you know, plumbing and everything on it. >> Okay. Thank you. And I'm just going to repeat so that you understand
that the $100 a day fine will begin today. >> Okay. Until you contact Miss Beavers to have her come look again. So to show her compliance. The sooner you do that, the
sooner you are able to get everything out of the backyard. You know, it can go >> I can't get everything. >> It can go inside your house if that's where if you want my house >> or into the shed. There's a picture here that shows me the shed, but it cannot be
where it is. >> I know. >> Okay. I know that. >> So, you understand. >> So, do make this your number one priority. It has been >> and and contact Miss Beavers. >> It's made me sicker. It's been my number
one. I'm sleeping in the car >> because he can't get to the door to fix it to put a new one in because of the pile. >> Okay. Thank you. >> We're going to We need to move on to the next case. Okay. Thank you very much for being here, Miss Huffman.
>> Thank you. Uh, thank you. Uh, thank you, Mr. Martin, for coming in. And u uh, Miss Beavers, do we want to move on to the next case, please? >> Oh, I I want to confirm one thing. Um, everything that I've got as far as Miss
Huffman's case number is 25-345. >> Correct. It was just incorrect on the slide. Okay. So, I just want to make just want to be clear. So, the previous order that the fines started on the 9th, you're disregarding
that. >> I'm I'm I gave her a couple of weeks reprieve. Um it did look to me like there was a slight um improvement since October 9th to October
27 22nd. So I I I've u I changed the uh um so that the fines start today. >> Okay. >> And then I did lower the amount from $250 to $100. >> Okay. um you know in light of of um
of of her statements about her uh financial condition and um uh and other issues that are going on in her life. >> Okay. So
starting today until she contacts me to let me know it is in compliance the fines will continue. >> That's correct. >> So what I will do is once compliance has
been achieved I will then schedule whatever the next magistrate hearing once that has been complied. So we won't come back until >> compliance has been achieved. >> That's correct. >> Okay.
Okay, moving on to next case on the agenda. Okay, this is case number 25366, property owner Richard G. Finny um which is deceased. Violation address 6 Berlin
Way, Jacksonville Beach, Florida. This is in regard in regards to accumulation of junk, trash, and debris throughout the property. The case was started back in July 11th. This is a continuence. Um, I did send the um, abatement notice
which was included in the packet and um, I did get a return receipt back from that on October 7th. Um, so I'm not sure if a family member is receiving the
certified mail. I also got in contact with the city contractor. So once he gives me a date of when he can go and abate the property um it will be abated at that time.
So this was the last inspection date was on the 21st and as you can see >> September >> of October. >> I can't actually see it. >> October 21st. >> Oh yesterday. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> And as you can see the property remains
in violation. And um can you tell the signature on the return received? >> There was no signature. >> It was just um date stamped October 7th. >> Okay. So, so we don't actually know if somebody at
the city received I mean at the home received it. >> No. And from my understanding, for certified mail, for it to be left at the property, someone has to receive it. So, I don't know if they refused signature
and just took the letter, but I did get a return receipt back. I have two return receipts. One from the order from our September hearing, and I have a return receipt for the abatement notice.
Um, what was the return receipt for the order? >> Both of them were October 7th. >> Okay. >> Um, what is your recommendation? My recommendation would be um being that we sent the abatement notice for the city
contractor to abate the property >> and then um whatever the um fine is that he submits in his invoice that will be um >> that's a separate process that's not
anything that the special magistrate usually deals with. >> Yeah. So, do you um want to do you want me to issue an order withdrawal or >> um abatement yet or do you want to wait another month? What what
>> just the order of abatement? >> An order of abatement. Okay. Okay. That's that's fine. >> Okay. >> Makes sense to me. >> All right. Okay, thank you.
>> And that our last um property is 1325 Beach Boulevard property owner RH Associates um case number 25303. The change of ownership to Mr. Patel has
been completed. Um as you see in the packet, he did submit a copy of the contract for the sign. Um, in his email to me, he also stated that the
sign company is applying for the necessary permits and he was not able to be here today due to a religious observance. >> Okay. Uh, thank you. Um the the prior order
um said that he was supposed to uh have an application a complete application submitted by today. Do you know whether that has occurred? >> We have not gotten anything
of my knowledge that they've applied for those permits yet. I can find out real quick if anything >> you going in the office of 1325 Beach Boulevard. >> Is he checking? >> Yes. >> Okay.
But to my knowledge, we had not received anything. This was the only thing. And I received this on Monday the 20th from him in the email. I don't um I don't believe I have a copy
of that email. >> Thank you. >> Okay. So, from my permit specialist, um she stated that no, none has been received. The last one was received in 2016. Did you respond to his request for more
information that he was supposed to have the application submitted by today? >> No, I well I talked to him on the phone and exp and talked to him about it and he said he was waiting for the sign permits.
>> Okay. And so he would attached to this email, it says that there is a copy of the signed contract because the one that's included in the packet is not signed. >> As you said, not signed. >> Well, the one that I have in the package.
>> That is all that he submitted to me. This is just a contract. And you're correct. It's not signed at in the back. And this was quote was given September 24th. Yeah, the quote date September 24th.
>> Um, well, I see it down below that it's printed. So, maybe that's, you know, a a docu sign. >> Yeah. >> Um, signed by Kevin on 101. >> Yes.
And this is just a quote. It's not a actual contract that work has begun or will begin. This is just a quote. >> Um uh do you
>> Yeah, that's >> So he they you've not received anything by today? >> No. Um, and uh, how do you I can either start finding
him or um, or you can uh, recommend an additional two weeks. Uh, we can take this back up on November the 19th. um um because he only uh
he was we also in the for in last month's um order excuse me the order was from August >> um from the August hearing not the September um
I believe I don't have it in front of me uh but I'm pretty sure that >> I have it >> yeah I think it was from the August just hearing. Let's see. Okay. So, from the August hearing You just had the order. You showed me
the order earlier >> for Duncan >> for for Duncan. >> Is that Oh, it's right here. Like, why is >> the date of the order? >> So, the date of this order was August 27th, >> right? That's what I saw.
And so you have on here the subject um it is ordered option B is show on exhibit A with the condition that the maximum height should be 2 ft. The respondent has until October 22nd to submit a complete
application and construction shall proceed promptly. So we have not received that application. >> So that's what I'm asking. Do you uh what's your recommendation regarding the fact that he did not comply with the prior order? And uh and to me there's
two options either um uh suggest another extension for submitting the complete application or uh start the filing today and u until he does submit the application and come you know uh and we
can give him a new date if you want but uh um >> I'm I'm kind of confused on what to do because I need to also see when the actual change of ownership
actually changed, you know, from one property owner to the other to kind of really make the decision on if we want to go ahead and start. >> Well, we do know that he signed the contract on October 1st. Yeah. >> So, that's 22 day. That's three weeks
ago. Yeah, that makes sense, too. So, yeah, we can go ahead and >> it's up to I mean, it's >> Yeah, because the the ownership had to have changed by that time for him to >> I don't I I even if it hadn't, he he agreed to the
with the sign company to have um to have this sign to install the new sign, >> right? So, um it seems that and I know that he got the copy of the of the order. >> Yeah.
>> Um because I'm sure you said I'm sure it was sent to him. >> Yeah. It was certified. Yes. >> So, um and he was there in August. Yes. >> So, he knew in in August that he had till today
>> to submit the application. um you know he's not here um so we can't um we can't ask him. >> Yeah. Um,
but >> yeah, I I my recommendation would be to start the fines being that he received this quote back on 10. He signed it on 101 and still had not submitted a application.
And so that would be effective the And are you re what you what are you recommending as far as an amount? >> Um 250. >> Okay. >> And that would be until he does in fact comply >> until we get a completed application
submitted. >> And it needs to be a complete application. >> Yes. A sufficient. >> Okay. And um we'll keep the January 22nd, 2026 date. Um that will um stay in place.
That date is to confirm compliance u with the with the construction. It was supposed to start construction promptly >> and um and if the sign is not complete by January 22nd >> uh then we will determine a date for
completion at that hearing. >> Okay. Is it January 28th? >> Um >> is the >> um I'd have let me look. Can you tell what is the Wednesday in >> I believe it's the
>> in uh January. Okay. Thanks. Okay. >> Are we the fourth Wednesday? >> Yes. >> We're the third. >> We're the third. >> I think we're the fourth because today is the >> No, no, no. We're
>> Yeah, that's what I thought was the fourth Wednesday. So, the fourth Wednesday in January >> is January 28th. >> 28th. Is that what Could you look at that order? Did it say the 28th and I just wrote down the wrong date?
Or maybe we were just going by months. >> You have um January 22nd. >> Okay. We were just going by months from October. >> Yeah. I think he said that it would take about three months to to complete construction
>> or that's the time frame that he wanted. Yeah. >> Actually, once they start, it probably be done in like three days. >> Right. Right. >> But we'll keep that date. >> Okay. >> And then uh
so we'll keep the date of the 22nd, but then when we come on the 28th, >> correct? It'll be verified. Okay. Um, I I do think that you should advise Mr. Patel
that uh that he is going to be incurring a $250 a day until the applications a complete application submitted. >> Okay. I will try to do the order,
but realistically it's it's not the earliest that's going to happen is going to be next Wednesday. >> Okay. >> So, um so you know I >> I can I can contact him by phone. I talked to him yesterday by phone and I
can just let him know um because I'll be out away at a conference all next week. So, by the time you send them, I'll just be getting back that following Monday. >> Got it. Okay. >> Okay. So, um yeah, just out of courtesy.
>> Okay. >> Um please let them know. >> I'll send them an email because that may that may create a incentive to call the sign company and get the application in. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Okay. That concludes all the cases that
I have for today. >> Okay. Thank you uh very much. Um I appreciate your time and attention to all these things and we will see you on November 19th >> if I have any if there's Okay. Thank you
so much.