Welcome back. I'm not sure what's going on. >> Okay. Okay. Is it two? Is it 2 o' >> uh good a am I on? Uh good afternoon. Um
this is the March 25th hearings. Um and we'll open the proceedings. The purpose and function of the Jacksonville Beach special magistrate hearing in accordance with Florida's statutes chapter 162 and the city of
Jacksonville Beach code of ordinances is to reach an equitable expedition to enforce the codes. The city presents the violation and evidence to the special magistrate. Next, the property owner is sworn in in response to the violation and evidence. Both the city and the
property owner may call witness to provide sworn testimony relevant to the case. This is a quasi judicial hearing, not a public forum. Individuals not called as sworn witnesses will not be heard. Thank you. Um,
shall we begin with old business case number 25-303? >> Yes. >> Yes. Please state your raise your right hand and state your name and position. >> Okay. >> Nikki Beavers Walker, City of Jacksonville Beach Code Enforcement Officer.
>> Do you swear affirm that the testimony you're about to give in this matter is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So, help you go. >> I do. >> Um, good afternoon. Um, your honor, we Yes. We will begin with RHC Associates
Ducken Brands. Um the violation address is 1325 Beach Boulevard, Jacksonville Beach, Florida. Um the violate violation was section 34450 for non-conforming signs. Um, since our last hearing, I did
receive um, confirmation that um, the property owner has since obtained a building permit for the sign well signed permit um, that was received on March 4th. I have a copy of that permit as
well. >> And was the permit issued or was it just an application? >> Um, the permit was issued. a sufficient application was received and a permit was issued. >> And what was the date to that? >> Um, I received confirmation on March 4th.
>> Oh, and what day was the permit actually issued? >> Uh, March 4th. >> Okay, great. >> A copy from this. >> I don't think I need a copy. Um, if if the work is to do, you've confirmed that
the work is to >> Yes. The um the permit is good for 180 days. >> 180 correct. >> 180. >> Okay. And um
u I recall that the um proposal from probably two or three hearings ago was that they would remove um the top portion. Could you explain what the building permit actually authorizes?
>> Um, and they sub in their application they submitted um a quote and the actual sign that they are going to be replacing. Um, it is a monument sign I believe that they're going to be replacing. So, um, my recommendation
would be to come back, um, after the 180 days, um, to make sure that the sign was installed and all the inspections have been completed. >> So, so actually, they're going to remove the 100% of the existing sign
>> from my understanding. Yes. And the property owner is here, so he can explain a little bit more on what their plan is as far as the sign. Okay. And your recommendation is for confirmation um uh after 180 days.
>> 180 days. >> And um so what um you know we have the fines have been acrewing. Yeah. Um since um I believe it goes back to
um order number 30-25 um and that we have so many orders. Um so fines would have um stopped acrewing
as of March 4th, >> right? Um >> I think it was for I was just looking for the date of the 3025. >> That was from the hearing held on October 22nd. >> Okay.
>> So, it probably would have been sometime in late October or early November, the actual date of that order. >> Yeah, I don't have the it's in my 2025
binder. I'm sorry. >> That's okay. I have a copy of it, just not the execute, just not the executed and certified, you know, by everybody >> um executed by um >> but I I know that it was the October 22nd
>> um hearing. Um so do you know um I'd like to have you calculated what the fines would be? >> I don't have that. um in front of me at
this time. So how that normally happens or works is once the fines have stopped then a the final amount um is then included in the order which I can get that to you before you um
complete the orders and then I will submit the order to the finance department and then the finance department will then build the property owner. the property owner can then um set up arrangements or try to get it reduced, but that's between the property
owner and the finance department. Um, so from the date of the order of 30-25 until March 4th and that would be at 250 per Okay. Um,
>> okay. Yes, I will need that. >> Yes, I'll include I'll have it sent to you. Um, one last question on the building permit. >> Does it does it include the demolition of the old sign and the construction of
the new sign? >> I believe so, your honor. I don't think they have to I don't believe they have to get a separate demolition permit for the old sign. Like I said, I don't um recall exactly when the um application
was submitted what they're actually going to do with the sign, but they did submit a sufficient application. >> Okay. I'll ask the owner to to confirm So on here it says basically um permit fees calculated based on
resulting monument sign height um is 25 ft and will be reduced to >> I'm sorry I don't know what you're reading from the >> from the permit it's stating that um the sign will be reduced to 10.83 83 feet.
So, I'm not sure if they are, like I said, he can explain if they're just going to reduce the existing sign to the conforming standards. >> Okay. So, that's it's not that they're going to put in a new sign.
>> Is that correct? >> Well, yeah. Let me finish with you. Okay. So, I think that was it. We'll just um so can you name can you repeat that it's reducing it to 10.83
feet >> in height >> in height and that the base cannot be larger than 36 in >> and height. >> That's for the base.
>> So that would be the width of it. Is there a drawing? >> I'm sorry. >> Is there a drawing on the permit? >> No. >> What you looking at? >> Um, no. There's no drawing on the permit. That would just be included all in the application. >> Is there any other information on the building permit there?
>> Um, that is it. >> Okay. >> It says the base must also include business address per the fire marshal. >> Okay. Is the applicant RHC >> Associates? >> Yes. >> Okay. Um, is there anyone else to speak
in regards to this matter? Uh, please raise your right hand. State your name and address. >> My name is Kevin Patel. The address is 11657 Beach Boulevard, Jacksonville, 32246. >> Okay. It's very Well, finish. Do you
swear affirm that the testimony you're about to give in this matter is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So, help you God. >> Yes, I do. >> Thank you. I didn't catch your your last name. >> Patel. >> Patel. Okay. And I know that you've been here before, correct?
>> Yes, I have. Okay. Um well, go ahead and tell me what what that you decided to finally get a building permit. Well, um there are several several layers of that which I
don't think uh the last time when I had attended um obviously we discussed that we're going to remove the top portion of the sign and convert the existing sign into monument. So I initially hired company so I took over officially from a
previous franchisee in October. the October I have the date here uh the 8th October 8th 2025 which when I hired the company to work on the sign the October 23rd or 24th we had a hearing which I was not here I was out of state because
I'm originally from Virginia and that's when I had received a notice that you know there's a daily fine on that because we discussed about you know pretty much putting application in within the three weeks of the hearing before
So when we try and you know submit application we came to find that city had no data. So normally when we try and you know obtain permit from the city obviously you know I'm not the first owner of the building. So I won't have
any data of the structure whatsoever. So I'm pretty much relying so is my company that I hire relying on the data from either the town or the city or previous franchisee. No one had any sort of data. So in order for me to >> Are you you mean the data regarding the
regard? >> Yes. Because there are several layers of information that city requires in order to completely put a full package in front of the uh the permitting department for them to approve approve the permit. We don't have any of that. So that means I'm starting everything
from scratch. So then I had to work with different farmers, different engineer layers, hiring the geopolitical you know uh the company to come out and do the survey and then also I had to involve an architect to to draw a site
plan because we don't have any site plan. So my the question I was here in the hearing I was here so as the permitting department I think somebody from assign who handles city knows that they don't have any data if I
was told from begin with right on that the the hearing that I attended I think it was in September I believe that we don't have any data that means you're doing this the brand new sign I would have started working on that this is something that we found out after we put application in and that's what it took
us and I officially got a letter from the company that actually works on what they had to do in order to obtain a permit. So I started this initial work right on the time I took over the store officially from the Duncan you know brand itself came in as a picture as the owner. I hired this company in October
8th. So the intention was very there from the beginning that I wanted to rectify this sign because this sign was down for a year more than a year. >> When did you um has the title actually transferred now? >> Yes. And so you but RHC you basically
are now RHC associates. >> Is that correct? Is that the name of the title holder? >> The owner of the property. I want to confirm that it's RHC associate. >> Yeah. The owner of the property is I'm just leasing that property. So I'm a
tenant. So the Duncan brand owns the property. I don't own the land. I own the building. But it's a triple land. the way the lease is, I'm responsible of the sign, if that makes sense. >> Hold on one moment. Miss Beavers, when you did the research
to identify the owner of the property, um, is it RHC Associates? >> Yes, the owner. >> That's the owner of the property. >> Okay. >> It says RHC Associates care of Duncan Brands. >> Okay.
It's important because if we're going to file any kind of lean, it has to be accurate. And in order to file the lean, the order has to be accurate. >> Yeah. And I have it listed on here, RHCD brands. Okay. Yeah. So technically we had to
start everything from scratch. the code that I provided initially you know when I was here and the code that I'm paying right now for that sign it's like three times because we had to involve all these you know different you know uh from from the uh the engineering firm
side which you know cost effective right my problem here is the the fees that are you know the the fine got you know been imposed on me which is not fair because I just took over that building or the business in October I started I hired
the company right right and then within that first week of I'm taking over the business it just took them long because city had no data so did not because I would not have any data I mean this building was built years back and we heavily rely on other businesses within
the dual county and whenever we trying to obtain permit we were able to retrieve data from the from the city itself because they have you know data from the begin with so it makes it our job easier to you know plug in those you know require required documents but in this case we had nothing even I had to do the site
plan which no one had site plan for the building so I had to hire an engineer draw it out again and and redo all that kind of stuff so which requires a time so it's what I'm trying to say it's it's not normal when you try and pull permit for a sign because the it's not building
it's a sign itself the sign is standing there we're converting right now this sign the way it's right now it's it's a written sign we call that written sign Duncan dollar mill deal that will be converted into a Duncan sign. The remaining top portion will be chopped off. The bottom portion of that is going to get covered. So we're basically the
the 10 ft that requirement basically we're bringing it as close as to a monument sign. But in order for us to kind of even see the structure the structure where the sign is sitting on it's actually strong enough for now the foundation. So because that foundation was probably done back in 80s 90s. Um so
all those requirements are there that we have to put in and we have to plug in in within the application itself which I had to obtain from outside. So I had to rely on like you know the entire engineering firm hiring you know architect to a geopolitical you know um
team to do a survey. So it takes a little bit of time and that's what they had to work on. It took us that time and we I personally came down here physically and I spoke to somebody here within the that time there was a renovation happening and I was looking for answers that I was looking for. I
even left voicemail to her why emails. I even had an engineering at the company that I hired. triangle persona the representative Andrew he even reached out to few folks here within the city that hey where do we get this you know information if not then we need to start and finally I was able to hold off
somebody here within the team and I was advised that well you need to start everything scratch because we have no data we were under cyber attack in 2022 we lost all the data so we have to start everything from scratch and that's how it took us that time and so my what I'm trying to say is the fine that I'm being
imposed on right now it's not fair because I started my project right and then within the week off I'm taking over that business. >> Well actually respectfully I would disagree Mr. Patel because
in looking back at the number of hearings that we've had regarding this project um and this violation that it goes all the way back to um well I can't even tell you the first one um
even my records say it goes back to at least June of 20 25 um and I know that in August Um, >> it was January 6th of 2025 is when this case started. >> Okay. Thank you. >> So, it's been over a year.
>> What when was it? >> January 6, 2025. >> Okay. Um, so it's been over a year. The other thing that leads me to think that it's not, you know, that that I,
as I said, would disagree with your position is that and even in August, you had brought two different proposals and you at during that hearing um you and the city agreed to option B. That was on
August 27th, >> correct? So, you know, um and in that order, um we gave you until October 22nd. So, that was two months, 60 days. Um uh
to work on it and your testimony is you didn't start working on it until October. >> Yeah. because officially I was not a legal you know I would not be able to sign on behalf of you know because the transition did not happen I was representing just so that it would put me to you know speed what's happening
with this sign in this case um and that's where I mentioned >> you could have had the current man owner at the time not current today but at the time in August come in and apply um and and pursue the permit and then you could
have been transferred to you that um so and you would have found out at that time that the city didn't have information and you know it's not the city's responsibility to have that data. It's it's not the city's responsibility
to have it. So, I understand that you maybe were surprised by the fact that um the city didn't have data on the sign, but it's not the city's obligation to have that information. And you could have learned that starting in August.
Um, so I I'm I appreciate you being here today to um ask that um the fines not um be established, but those fines were established starting October 22nd.
So the um I'm not going to agree um to reduce the fines. the um starting with the date of the order
number 30-25 uh and through uh March 3rd which was um uh March 4th of the day that the um
application was received and um as an sufficient application When was the application received? >> Um I got everything on March 4th from my understanding. >> Okay. >> Because um I did let them know the you
know the urgency to you know get it reviewed and um approved. >> I I do need to know the date that the application was deemed complete. >> Okay. Um, it could be a little bit sooner than uh
March 4th. And the reason I'm asking for that date, Miss Beavers, is because the order um 30, excuse me, hold on. Let me make sure I'm reading the correct one. Um, I can let me find out that
information real quick. Okay. So what um actually we could go back to August the 27th that order which is 17-25 um required uh
the respondent um has until October 22nd to submit a complete application and construction shall proceed promptly. So, it was I would say that it would be the date of submitt
um and that would reduce it possibly by a couple days. >> I'm waiting for my um clerk to shield respond and let me know what day it was received >> and it would be a complete application. >> Yes.
Okay, >> I will I'll get that date and I'll um include it in the information that I give the clerk's office and they'll have that exact date to you. Um but I want to say if it'll probably be like a day or two off if it wasn't the exact days.
>> Yes. Okay. And if you would um also provide that information to me and to Mr. Patel. Okay. >> And I'm going to hold off uh doing the order until I get that information. >> Okay.
>> Mr. Patel, is there anything else that you want to say? >> No. >> Okay. Thank you very much for being here today and I'm glad that you got your application and I hope that you'll build the new sign soon. Thank you.
Um, anything else on this matter? >> No, we'll move on to the next one. >> Okay. Um, >> thank you very much. All right, moving on to our next item on the agenda. We're going to 612 Lower 8th
Avenue South. All right, this is in regards to a nuisance pool. um property owner Christopher Han. Case number 25 368.
This um case was started on July 15, 2025. There was a previous fine ordered of $100 per day on September 24th, 2025. Mr. Han um did comply the violation on
February 25th, 2026. That's when the compliance occurred. >> February February 25th, 2026. As you can see, this was a picture of the nuisance pool.
And I did a final inspection um once I went and submitted I mean delivered the notice of hearing for the March hearing. And this is just an updated picture of the um pool has been drained.
>> Okay. So full compliance was >> February 25th. >> Okay. Um and so we had an order 27-25 from >> September 24th
>> from September 24th. Is that correct? >> Yes. And what's your recommendation? >> Um that the violation would be listed as comply and the case closed.
>> Okay. What about the fines? >> Um the fines, Mr. Han, I did speak with Mr. Han. Um he did let me know that he initially um did get the original door knocker that was left on the door um at the
beginning on July 15th. Um he did not have the funds at the time to comply the violation back. So on the um July 15th, there was a door hanger knocker left on the door. Um he
said that he did not have the funds at the time. Um during my visit on February 25th, he did put a cover over the pool. Um the house has since been sold. Um the fines
would have stopped as of February 25th, 2026. Okay. Um, so your recommendation is that the fines of $100 per day acrew between um the date of the order of order number
2725. >> Yes. >> Through uh February 25th. >> Yes. And I did um explain to Mr. hand that um once the fines were stopped, he would get information well um he would
be build from the city and he can contact the finance department to see if he can get those fines reduced. >> Okay. Um but I still have obviously I have to issue an order for that to yes >> for him to proceed. Okay. Um, is there
anyone else here to speak? >> Mr. Is there anything >> else that you want to add? >> No. Other than >> can comply and close the case. >> Okay. And I I believe this is Mr. Hand. >> Please raise your right hand. State your
name and address. >> Christopher Hand 612 Low 8th Avenue South check 32250. Do you swear or affirm that the testimony you're about to give in this matter is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. So help you, God. >> Yes.
>> You may proceed. >> Well, fell some hard times last year. Um I have some TBI. I haven't been I just I don't really have much to say. Just I
apologize. I I know why this came up because there's a developer that is building the house next door that isn't finished, but he I'm sure saw it and didn't want to sell his get the house finished and have a green pool next door. I don't I don't blame him. I just I didn't have the funds to fix anything
or do anything. I still don't. Um had I I mean I know there has been communication sent through mail. Honestly, the only thing that I noticed was the door knocker and then something that there was some uh take to the door
one day, too. But that had been after I realized, holy smoke, something being charged $100 a day for this situation. Um I don't even know how I'm going to pay
it. So, I just I guess I'll just have to take that up like was saying with the with the finance department. Um, I am no longer in the house. There is a person that is spending quite a bit of money. They're going to they're tearing
off all of the uh concrete on the pool, putting all new Maride in it. And you can see in one of the pictures, the uh backyard is not all overgrown and has been cleaned up. They've already bought a new roof in it. They're going to put over 100 grand into the whole property. Um, are
>> Let me let me be sure. Um, >> how long have you not been living in a >> I just moved out and into an apartment like I think that's going on a week and a half, two weeks now. >> So, you were living in the home.
>> I was >> during like going all the way >> last year. >> You were living there. >> Yes, ma'am. >> And you've just moved out. Is it under contract? Somebody's doing >> well. Nothing can get really finished until this situation is done. But I have
basically given them I'm out and I have let them start their work that they need to do to >> This is a buyer you're speaking about. >> Yes, ma'am. So >> So you have you have it under contract with the buyer? >> Yes, ma'am. >> Okay.
I'm making notes so that I'll remember. >> Okay. >> Okay. I um I think that uh First of I want to say thank you for being here. That's good. Um and uh
the fine will, you know, acrew between the date of the 20 order number 2725 until February 25th of 2026. Um but as Miss Beavers mentioned um
there is opportunity to try to reduce that. I have one question about that date on the 25th because I know we initially I was supposed to close on the 19th and then when I found out that there was this
almost $15,000 fine had that had occurred. Um I was under the impression that we stopped that on I believe it was the 16th or 17th >> from my pictures my pictures are date found and it was showing
>> well I had had talked to you I think you had come out later on after I was in the process of moving out. Um, but >> the one with the one with the actual tarp on it was on the 25th, >> right?
>> Oh, you're talking about the day that we came in. Well, I had talked to you on the phone and just told you the situation where like, oh, I'm well, obviously it didn't happen, but I was like that Monday, >> the I think the 19th was a Friday and I think it was that Wednesday, right? A
couple days before making it like the 16th or 17th >> and then I came out and took the pictures. So, we can go back to >> I mean just I mean $100 is a big deal.
So that's just another almost 10 days. >> That's fine. >> It's $1,000. >> The 19th was a Thursday and I want to say it was that Monday on the 16th that we spoke on the phone that he stated that um
he had put the cover on there and then I went on the 25th. So we can stop the fines um on the 16th of February. >> Okay, great. Okay, I'll use that too. Okay. Um, is there anything I would that
you'd like to add, Mr. Hand, at this point? >> Just falling on the mercy of whoever makes the decisions to just hopefully have give me a little bit of grace on this matter. It's not going to happen again. It's been remedied and they're the people are putting a lot of money into the house and it's it's going to be
a nice place when it's done. Um, I just couldn't after going through divorce and I was out of work for some injuries that had occurred overseas and I just >> had wasn't able to keep up with it anymore on my own.
>> And that was the first thing to go was, you know, the pool. Sadly, you don't realize when you buy the house >> that already had the pool that, hey, that can be if if this this could happen. And my mom who has a pool was like, "Well, I I should have told you
like because she paid to get a pool in." So, she knew that somebody warned her like you can't ever let this thing go green or if you do, >> it's a problem, >> etc., etc. So, I really learned the hard way. I'm just hoping that we can come to some agreement or some sort of payment
or something. >> Okay. Well, thank you very much. >> Yes, ma'am. >> Appreciate it. >> Thanks. >> All right. Thank you, Miss Beavers. Anything else on this matter? >> Um, that is all that I have on that one. >> Pardon? >> That is all that I have for this case for 25368.
>> Um, your honor, I do have dates for the previous case that we reviewed. Um, the application was received on February 23rd, 2026.
>> And it was deemed complete that day. >> It was deemed complete on February 25th. 25th. >> Yes, it was received on the 23rd and um deemed sufficient on the 20 25th.
>> Okay. >> Okay. At that. >> Okay. >> Okay. All right. Moving on to our last case. This is case number 25407. Property owner Emina Pillow Kovic. The
property address is 314 Melo Boulevard. Um the violation was no building permit was obtained for um a pergola or structure that was built in the rear yard. Um this is the property. I have circled
what I'm able to see in regards to the pergula that's in the rear yard. The building official um also stated from what he could see that it also did not meet the setback requirements from the property line but no permit was
obtained. This I went back today. >> Is it the setback from the rear property line? >> Yes. >> And is that But that was not part of >> No, that was not something that the
building official but no permit was obtained. So even with the permit um they would have had to be in compliance with the building department for that part. >> Okay. >> Um I went back by there today to see if any compliance had been achieved prior to the hearing. Um as you can see I
circled that the structure still remains. Have you had any >> have not >> correspondence or contact with the owner? >> No. And anytime I go there, there is nobody there. So I believe this is a
Airbnb. >> Um do you have um your notices that have been sent? Have they uh been received to your knowledge? >> They have all been um sent to this and even on the property appraiser there is
no other address listed other than the primary primary address. Um let's see. >> Have your notices been returned? >> I have not received any notices back.
Um, and I don't have any signed. Um, >> you do or you don't? >> I don't know. >> You have no nothing that >> I have not received anything. Yeah. >> Are you sending them a return receipt? >> Yes.
>> Requested? >> Yes. So, as I was looking to see if I had received any return receipts and the mail has been taken a while to come back, if it's returned mail, but I haven't received those yet, but it was also posted on the door and each time
that I went back to the property, the posting is gone. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Yeah. So, it's being handd delivered and certified mail. And each one of these um this was the last notice that I um posted on
March 20th and the LA and the other one was from February. And when I posted this one on the 20th um the February posting was gone. >> Okay. >> This was the February posting on this
picture. How many times did you post the property? Just the one. Just the once in February. >> February. >> And then the once in March. >> Yes. Let me look at my >> Yes, the February was the first one.
>> And is that being posted on the front door? >> Yes, that's the February one. >> Okay. And then >> and you said it was February 20th. >> That one was February 9th. Excuse me. The 9th.
>> February 9th and March 20th. >> Okay. And you haven't been back since March 20th. >> I went back today. >> And is it gone? >> It's gone. >> Thank you. >> Okay. Um
>> so the city's recommendation um would be a daily fine of 250 until a permit application a sufficient permit application has been received. Okay. Um, do you have anything else on this matter?
>> No, I do not. >> Okay. And looking around the room, I don't see anyone. So, I don't think there's anyone to speak on this matter. Um, I will, um, issue an order, uh, in, um, to reflect the city's recommendation
of $200 per day until a complete application has been submitted. >> Okay. 200 or 250. >> Did I say 200? I meant 250. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> All right. That concludes all the cases that I have for today.
>> Okay. Um is there any other business that you have to vote? Okay. >> Then uh this hearing these hearings are concluded.