thank you very much Well that's nice This won't be for this till the second meeting though We do the swearing in and everything See happy birthday Yeah that's it I just want to make sure Yeah but it doesn't take that long No no
no no no I just but I just wanted to make sure that when we he sworn in attack Yeah And then swearing in sworn in No No she's going on my calendar I just realized that myself
No she doesn't She doesn't come up until we adjourn and then new start Yeah Can we keep it going every like every other week maybe Okay As long as you saw him Perfect Perfect in a few weeks here But other than that
when I have my blood is when you guys are voting on um even call me I don't want that silent zone All right Thank you I'd like to ask everybody to take a seat
U we'll be starting shortly like to call to order the town council meeting of Tuesday April 1st We begin with an invocation followed by a moment of silence and then a pledge of allegiance If all those that are able
please join me in standing Dear God we ask that you give us endurance to finish the task before us and the courage to make the right decisions Amen Amen Let's have a moment of silence Please join me in the pledge I aliance to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic for it stands One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all May we have a roll call please mayor Caretsky here Vice Mayor Sunstrom here
Councelor for here Councelor Delaney here Town Manager Kitso here Town attorney Baird here Okay council we have before us the minutes of the March 18th meeting I don't see any corrections If there are
none I'll take a motion in the second on approving the minutes So moved Second Motion a second All in favor signify by saying I I I Motion carries unanimously Moving on to regular agenda resolution
4225 certifying the results of the runoff election for March 25th Uh I'll take a motion and a second to approve the resolution So moved Second We have a motion and a second All in favor signify by saying I I I Motion carries
unanimously Okay Uh I'll turn it over to uh our town attorney on installation and swearing in of council member elect Phyllis Joy Thank you Mayor Uh for those of you in the audience we are uh fortunate to have one of our finest judges in the uh
county Judge Joseph Curley here for a repeat performance on swearing in um Councelor Troy and uh Judge Curley has graced us with his presence in these ceremonies for the last couple of years and we certainly appreciate it Thank you
It's always a blessing for me I enjoy it immensely Thank you for inviting me Thank you Ready okay I like that That's a warn I doly swear do solemnly swear I will
support and protect I will support and protect and defend the constitution and defend Amend the Constitution government of the United States in the government of the United States and of the state of Florida and of the state of Florida that
I am duly qualified that I am duly qualified hold office to hold office under the constitution of the state under the constitution of the state that I will and that I will faithfully and faithfully perform the duties of council
member perform the duties of the council member which I am now about to enter which I am now about to enter so help me congratulations [Applause] [Applause]
Heat Heat [Applause] Okay moving on to approach Stair manager Thank you Mayor Um if I could if you would indulge me and I could ask
councelor Ford to meet me down here at the podium for a minute I finally get to tell you what to do That's it Exactly right Thank you mayor Um as you know uh being a council member is a lot of work I don't think the average person
understands how much work goes into being a council member all the extra time you spend and you know all the the things you have to read and the homework that you get and you know and all of those things and I have to say that it's been an absolute privilege and an honor
and to work with you over the last year and a half or so and uh and you've been nothing short of amazing As a matter of fact one of my my last uh things that I do before every council meeting is I have a standing 5:30 meeting with Andy
to go over things and answer questions And I was lost today because I got to 5:30 and I really didn't have anything to do It was kind of nice And so uh but anyway no fishing stories and we didn't solve world hunger And so um so I just
want to take a minute on behalf of the staff myself um I know other members of council to say thank you Uh takes a very special person to volunteer and step up and and do what you've done And so we have a few things that we want to present to you Um you as you go Um I
will tell you well f first of all let me come up behind you right here So uh one of the things you know that identifies us obviously are your name plates Um I will tell you for the police in the audience here having been a police officer for 42 years I find it
kind of suspicious that you got different names on different things Um yeah aliases And so but I had him check before the meeting started So you're good to go And so u we want to take
I wanted to take a a a moment and present you with your commissioner uh from being on your planning and zoning time And so and then uh also uh and if you haven't had a chance when you leave out of here tonight you should
look out the the door over to the part of where the old building was We're almost ready to open that up and it looks beautiful And believe it or not there used to be a big building there in the council chambers and council 4 was a part of that And our name tags were a
little bit different So I wanted to present you with the name tag from or name plate from the old building I know you're very good with history And so I wanted to present that And then finally um and one of the things we always talk
about you live on the water and the water is a big deal and it's a big deal for all of us and we love the lighthouse and everything about Jupiter right and so we wanted to share with you present you with a little print of the lighthouse I don't want to drop it because if I do then Sean's got to
reframe it And so we'll turn it around and show everybody Got it And so there you go Can we get a picture [Applause]
thank you And beh on behalf of the staff and everybody and myself I want to say thank you Thank you very much Thank you Very nice Thank you You can we'll fix it for you You can leave it all here Thank you very much Very kind words
[Applause] and I passed over territory reports Thank you Uh my report is Andy Ditto Uh thank you Thank you very
much I'd love to say something if I could please Please do Um one of the things I had the biggest problem with is talking into the microphone I was told often by my wife who who scream "Get your head up to the microphone Nobody can hear what you're
saying." Phyllis keep that in mind Just talking like you talk doesn't work You got to keep your face up here Um when I came to council I'd already been on planning and zoning I think five and a half years So I had an inkling of an idea what it might be but I was fooled
As as uh Frank pointed out it's a ton of work but it's really worth it Like all things in life the best things take a ton of work and this was a very rewarding job Uh very tough job but I
enjoyed it immensely I I regretted that I was unable to attend a lot of the the outside meetings because of my leg Um I don't know if you guys picked this up earlier I've got my foot on ottoman right now I got a DVT a year ago and
that's preventing me from running again or I'd be sticking with it Um really love my time here And I got to know the staff and how excellent a staff we had I have known Roger our uh chief of the uh
building department for maybe 30 30 plus years I've been a contractor and engineer in Jupiter for over 30 years now and have had the um privilege and honor of building and applying for permits and getting responses from the
building department Rogers a gym I've known him since he was a plans examiner and he's progressed all the way through to the head of the department Couldn't be a better pick Um I then got to know the planning and zoning department uh John Cichler and Stephanie Thorren and their lieutenants who I've heard present
outstanding analyses on behalf of the town The our planning and zoning department knows our code immensely well I mean microscopically well They can ask really I can ask obtuse questions and get very precise answers to everything I
I need Outstanding planning zone Really good job Um and the and the receivables that we receive their uh explanations on why we should go for a permit or not go for a permit are so well thought out and so many pages of backup and basis It's
outstanding Thank you um our finance department Scott and his lieutenant I mean there's not many departments that have a a metric that can study their performance but in finance there is a metric and it's often
looked at through auditors We have been on time under budget on everything we said we were going to do and we passed every audit that we've been faced with So kudos to Scott wherever you are out there Excellent excellent finance department Um Amanda I've I've said this
to you before Um and public I hope you're here tonight I've had a house in Jupiter for 40 years The power's gone off hundreds of times The um cable phone hundreds of times My water's never gone
off in 40 years Outstanding job Um Sean Sean's been here I just saw him a little while ago Sean welcomed me in when I first came on the council he's our our PR guy Immediately came in and embraced me and said "If I have any questions or any
interface needs with the community let him know and he'd be right on it." Has always been helpful and negotiating that that torturous path Um Laura Cahill our town clerk as I pointed out I've got a foot up on an ottoman She has been kind
enough to make sure this was here every single night I've been here for the last year Thank you very much very kind But professionally she just within the last two weeks just got a certification that places her in one of the top town clerks in the nation Our our staff is just
amazing Um uh Mike Barbara our our police chief wherever you are Outstanding I was at the ebike uh um meeting we had last week Could not have been done better Maybe if your voice wasn't so bad from being sick He came anyway sick as he could be could barely
talk but put on a great presentation Good luck with you in that endeavor and all others Thank you very much Um Chief uh uh Donado where you uh you are you are in for it You're now in the crosshairs of development We've
got 18 months now to put together this fire department and you are the exact right guy at the right time and we're very lucky to have you in that position Um Frank good choice there Good luck I I I don't think you really need luck because you're doing it through hard
work and expertise Outstanding choice and I I wish you the best in that endeavor Um Tom excellent attorney Our town's very lucky to have him representing us and I think that was made very obvious under the onslaught
from the union We just survived That was just an amazing effort You did a perfect job We're very lucky Thank you very much Malise Um I think you all know and you have all shown Malise and Jim you've showed through
voting how much you admire them They are amazingly wellprepared as is Ron Melissa's expertise seems to be in her community Um she's a huge champion of the playgrounds and and society
making our community better to feel better more usable more user friendly making it pretty and all the things we enjoy The reason we really love being here Jim the engineer in him has made sure like a metronome that the questions get
asked the knowledge is acquired so he can press it on our vendors Uh people like FDOT you can just go back and watch the the uh videos of our prior meetings and see how he's the questions he asks are just spectacular They're right on
point and they get to the the meat of it quickly Ron his integrity is impeccable During this last election for some reason I came under fire and you were always there to defend me Uh very
straightforward kind of matterof fact about it but very thoughtful I really appreciate that Very well uh read when it comes to our town and the knowledge needed to make good decisions All very good well-informed decisions And you can just watch it and see
Um that kind of leaves you and your staff Uh Stacy who's your your interface with society and has done so much to make it easier for me to to manage through this crisis crisis Uh Nikki who's great at our strategic planning
done a great job Kate your first lieutenant I'll hate to see the day when you do leave but she'll be a good replacement I hope that's the consideration And that that kind of leads me to with you I' I've referred to you as our our rudder but I think you're
also our engine I think you're the engine and the rudder of the town right now And if you guys might remember wasn't that long ago we had a town manager problem Uh we had a a police department that was in an uproar And
there was a lot of problems going on and this man right here and his staff put it together got us on the right track and we're doing exactly what we should be doing Outstanding job on his he as he was talking about the weekly meetings we had he's got a bulletin board behind him
It's got 50 action items on it at all times He's like a general And I as he pointed out earlier I'm a a history fan I've read a lot about uh American battles and the the generals of those battles You remind me of patent Just know everything and the more you know
the less you'll be surprised and the better job you can do and execute But I've been extremely fortunate to be with the staff my fellow counselors and a town manager and his lieutenants It's been an honor and a privilege to represent the citizens of Jupiter And I
wish you all the very best as well as you town council I hope to see you guys in the future on a in a different capacity And with that scene [Applause] [Music]
Council Delaney So we needed a replacement to fill the seat So I watched you on PNZ and we were looking around and I said I said "This this gentleman he seems to have he might have what it takes." But when you got here and you started and you brought the knowledge your
engineering background your speaking background and you just you just dove right into the position But what really struck me is what you're just a genuine person and you the way you you you analyze everything your compassion and
you that your the care you took just considering everybody's opinions and it's it's been a really it's been a pleasure and an honor to serve with you I hate to see you go I wish you could have stayed keep it in mind in the future But you really did a terrific job and uh the best thing is I I gained a
friend So but really and good luck in the future So you did a great job Appreciate it Thank you Vice Mayor I think when we selected you I called you calm and strong And um getting to know you I learned that you're even
calmer and stronger than I ever could have imagined because what was it at some point around your wedding you were spear fishing in the Bahamas and the bull shark came and you handled it and it was it was all great My bull shark Yeah it was it's been an honor and it's
been a lot of fun getting to know you Um but you you are those things You are calm and strong Um we've agreed on items we've disagreed on items but you've handled it all with just such a great temperament for governance and you've listened to all of our opinions you've
given your factual or um your reasoning behind it every time We've really learned so much from your professional background and experience You've been able to share that with us on a number of different items and so we're so grateful to you for that You came in
under fire I mean it it was honestly I remember talking to you and you you seemed a bit hesitant and that was a good natural normal human response I would be worried if you were like yes let's go Um so you know it was it was really difficult We had just made the
Jupiter fire decision and we were under fire and there were a lot of people very energized in the room and you got up You heard all of them You spoke to them directly You walked out You stayed You stayed after to talk to all of them You attacked the problem with reasoning with
calm with strength with respect and I'm so grateful to you for that in such a difficult time So thank you for all that you've given to all of us I'm glad to know you and I do hope I'll see you around if anything for more stories
about fishing and and all of that Never dull flying stories Never dull So thank you Well you know with everything that's been said but you know you and I've been involved on the council and years before I ever was up here I was
out there and I don't know if there's anybody that actually has stepped into that seat and just hit it running And uh that was really helpful to us you know when you have to find somebody to fill you know
uh the remainder of an you know of a term Um and I feel like we were blessed that you stepped up Um I I delighted many times when you shared wisdom on a particular topic Um we're going to miss you I'm
going to miss you So we we wish you the best Thank you very much Thank you And with that um just before I motion to adjourn I just want to make sure that those in the audience celebrating really here for our
newest uh council member Uh when we we're going to adjourn momentarily and then we're going to allow some time for our newest council member to have pictures taken with family and whatever And when that's over
we're going to uh we're going to reconvene in our second meeting where she'll join us up here and uh and council for will depart and um and then we'll begin and although it's not on the agenda it is
tradition we'll allow um councelor Choy to say some words to those of us those of you that are here and I'm just sharing that because you may want to stick around for that and then we understand that usually the process once that's done people may not stick around
for the rest of the meeting and that's okay but uh at least stick around to see her up here in in the seat Um so with that uh the time is now 7:25 and we'll adjourn the meeting Good luck
He's got I want to hear both sides That's the only way to really do it Whatever they have to say Thank you And we needed you the way you just drove
in like J said We needed because it was just completely different I had no clue I had followed no background at all I was I was I was in the same place but you you caught on immediately and under fire
Wasn't staff I know I lean on staff too I met with them probably three times a week I just get up to speed You really you well we needed that strength because it was tough That was Thanks That was a
tough colleagues do That's exactly and I'm buying that very applicable in the future I'm an engineer Yep I'm a contractor Licensed mechanical structural tricks in my bag You never
know That's an understatement Wonder if they ever did anything The office will make standby There it is Deal Deal You have four names You got three names Thank you
Nobody knows Ah that's all right There you go This is for you Don't be a stranger Well you know I hope I'll come stuff Strange things will happen
Yeah whole circle He tried a beach committee He doesn't want the beach Andy should I start one subcommittee of the beach yeah that you can give us fishing update Here we go
Thank you What what go get him Go get him I sure did Congratulations [Music] I don't know Did you raise my seat uh no
Now is it all right i want a picture with with counsel Okay Thank you I need to raise this seat Maybe it is the height I know No don't touch That's the highest you
can go Yeah Bring bring a pillow Yeah Okay I'd like to ask everybody to take a seat please All right Wait Hurry up Okay Don't go away Hurry up Stay there Almost done One more
You want me to Okay Here Do you want to come take a hold all right Thank you One last one more fellas for Wayne And look who's taking a picture Take the picture with Wayne Phillis
Everybody does I'm good Oh my god There's all this stuff As long as the red button is wet So right now it's Yeah Don't touch
this room that says police Okay the time is now 7:34 and I'll call to order the town council second meeting of April 1st 2025 Uh may we have a roll call please mayor Katsky here Vice Mayor Sonstrom here
Councelor Choy here Councelor Delaney here Town Manager Kitsro here Town attorney Baird here Okay And as I had indicated uh we'd like to offer to our newest council member to
uh say words that you would like Thank you I think I'm on First of all sitting here and looking out at all of you I'm not even sure it's real but I have to say because of all of you I am sitting
here I want to thank the honorable judge Curley for administering the oath of office that I take very seriously The council our manager your team and
Jupiter will be our home But I want to say thank you because this was a journey that I think everyone who is here in the chamber took with me I had to defend things that I didn't
think I would defend but it was okay My realtor family my chamber of commerce family but we are all residents here The voters said what they wanted to say and I will represent every resident in
Jupiter fairly honestly and I will abide by the oath of office that I took This journey at this stage in my career I'm going to tell you it wasn't there when I was asked I've been asked multiple times
to serve but this time it was the right time the time that I could give a commitment to all of Jupiter be part of this hundredyear celebration to join with our fire department with our police department This is an important time in
the history of our town And I am honored and I am proud to sit here and represent all of the members of the council to work with each one of you as residents And again thank you from the bottom of
my heart There should be other people that I'm thanking My family who keep saying just don't make it long Keep moving But Erin Matthew my husband Kenton 43 years by the way And he was the best sign man ever out there putting
up signs every morning at 5:00 He was out there checking them So I thank you all for your support my extended family and and you all know when you move and I've been here 27 years it becomes an extended family and you're all in this
audience my sister Karen is in the back she got me votes one by one as she would meet people so I thank you for that and Miss Carol thank you for accompanying and again I want to recognize the candidates that did run I
wish them much success in their life and only good health So thank you all for supporting me and thank you for being here tonight
[Applause] Okay Uh I want to go ahead and welcome Mr
Peter Dit with the Bureau of Land Management with Jupiter Init Lighthouse Outstanding Natural Area otherwise known as Jalona who will be given a presentation in an update on the Jalona shoreline stabilization restoration project
Welcome Thank you very much mayor council members town manager for the opportunity to update everybody on the shoreline stabilization project at the Jupiter Lighthouse Outstanding Natural Area Just as a quick reminder this is your federally protected public lands here in
the community of Jupiter and it was designated in 2008 after a community effort to protect the history and the culture and the biology of this very special area and the opportunity to learn something and recreate out there learn something about our history So
that's the mission we work under and unfortunately that mission was under threat from erosion Erosion a very natural force of cur occurring along the shoreline As the tides come in and out they wash the shoreline away That has been further exasperated by the increase
in boat use activity of people changes in vegetation types um inclement weather many different factors Uh unfortunately we have been suffering a rate of erosion over the last decade of about 7 foot per year So some quick math we've lost over 70t of shoreline in some places and as
you can see on this graphic here uh it's equated to about 5 acres of total lost land over the last 50 years Um it's not a new problem but it has been getting much worse in recent years And those higher than anticipated king tides storm
surges just kind of keep compounding that fact A few years ago we decided that uh past project uh that were proposed weren't just hitting the mark of uh providing not only for the protection of resources but for recreational opportunities So we came up
with a new project which was to alleviate the erosion along the shoreline make sure that the inter coastal waterway remains safe for Boers prevent health and safety risks from crumbling um shoreline and falling vegetation but to also provide recreational opportunities enhance the
scenic values of the area and uh really provide for enhanced habitats which then further contribute to uh um local fish populations recreational fishing and even commercial fishing out in the Atlantic That project uh really kicked off uh in
2001 when we got some funding for it and very quickly into 2002 we reached out to the public and asked for input in designing a a shoreline that really just didn't exclude any one use and met the goals of the project Um we had over 800
participants in the process We engaged the marine industry association the Florida inland navigation district and the members uh and residents in the town of Jupiter the village toquester and other surrounding communities We went through all our environmental compliance process We got comments back on these
designs um really coming up into last year when the permits were finally authorized And so we've had the permits on hand for about 9 months at this point and work officially began uh last Monday The project itself covers a mile of
shoreline includes installing 22 wave break features made of natural stone Uh an element of the shoreline is uh um some experimental shoreline stabilization designed by University of Miami is going in to be studied for 10 years which will feed science and information into how Florida protects
its shorelines into the future It includes retaining walls uh boatin access camp kind of day use areas uh an expanded pedestrian beach for those that like to snorkel around Kato Bridge over 800t of boardwalk and a new dock and
then ADA accessible pathways uh throughout some of those areas Um uh just kind of an artist's impression of what those experimental shoreline features will look like uh it's called a sea hive as identified by uh University of Miami and then it will be compared uh
in situ next to the traditional methods of protecting shoreline with limestone rip wrap So there's a direct comparison as to whether it is as or if not more effective than the traditional methods Uh as I mentioned the shoreline includes a number of these wave breaks
The biggest concern from the community was really how will this affect boater access and uh that boater access we studied it over a year determined that throughout the average use there were 17 boats they didn't use the shoreline at the same time they just came and went
throughout the day so average daily use of 17 boats of course on Memorial weekend you could get up to 45 um boats along the shoreline and that absolutely will be affected by this design However the design as it will be implemented will accommodate uh between 17 and 20
boats at a time um depending on the size of the boat and the skill of the captain Uh so those uh so providing boer opportunity also providing staircases down from the top of the dune to the shoreline which will help with uh not only public safety and enforcement but provide another recreational opportunity
for people visiting the site The boardwalk is an important element Not only will that add to uh our ability to offer educational and fishing programs on the site but it does include a dock which will uh hopefully be visited by fers and water taxes and
continue to uh uh support recreational use and development throughout the town of Jupiter and along the waterways Let's see So the project status all the engineering's done As I mentioned the groundbreaking occurred last Monday Uh the vegetation has been
stripped from the top of the dune at this point excavation starts uh um probably tomorrow and then uh the entire project is likely to be completed around August of 26 Um so it's an aggressive schedule People uh from the community
Boers especially will see those impacts over the next few weeks and I expect people will be asking questions what's going on Is it going to be condos is it being developed the answer is no It's going to be stabilized and protected uh and really meeting the mission of the outstanding natural area Um you will uh
see first the dune stabilization then the inwater work beginning and then finally the latter elements are that boardwalk and the dock Uh they're the luxury items on top The overall project has cost about $16 million The construction alone is $4.5 million 7.5
has been provided by the federal government through the Great American Outdoors Act from this administration's first administration and the uh other half of the funding $7 million has been provided by the Florida Inland Navigation District Um happy to take any
questions about the project I just want to say thank you so much for coming here because I think you're right we will be receiving a lot of questions And I also just want to thank you for all the work you did and we know you did to help secure the funding for this project Um I think it's important to
state that it does two things It does protect but it also enhances the recreation and so you find a compromise there It was good to know about voter access fishing programs potentially down the line and all these other things Um my ask uh is I'm sure and I know you've
put a lot of things out You're you're in the process of putting a lot of things out there Is there a kind of one-page flyer or something that talks about um on maybe for like half a page protection and another recreation um if so I'd love to help share it uh as they come to us
Awesome We will get you that information Um a website was launched It's in the government uh kind of BLM pages Talks about the project It's not that easy to find but I can certainly share that as well as a one pager with you Thank you so much No problem
So um yeah thanks for coming tonight Um so when excavation starts at that point the whole area would be closed for boat boers to pull up to the beach right so we are attempting to leave as much of the site open as possible Uh at this time the elevated dune portion is closed
to both pedestrians and to boers There is a tubidity curtain that prevents access However the uh shoreline adjacent to Kos Bridge and down to uh the kind of that low elevation is still open for voters and we will complete the work on
the uh high elevation portion before closing the uh section next to the the bridge to always to continue to allow some use And there are segments of trail that are closed but again our goal is to continue to allow use of those trails throughout the area The uh there call it
a turbation fence How long is that going to be there for uh so that will be the life of the project until they finished uh with the ground disturbing activity in the the area that then that same curtain will be moved for the next bit of the project Okay And so and I know so you have your it's sort of a living
shoreline integrated into the whole system and and there's there's there's breaks in the the hard structure where boats can pull up Did you was there any um thought into you know because the current there is pretty stiff right Was there any thought in did you
strategically put the openings where the current there's little sometimes there's little eddies and things where it's lighter or is it was it random the way you did no that's correct Uh we we looked at where the boats were coming in and being used over a year-long period and we steered the open spots to those locations and as you say they just
happen to be in the areas where there's a inflection in the uh the bed and it creates an eddy that is less current And then for uh for swimmer safety uh adjacent to each of the boat areas there is an area where people can get out between the breakwaters be protected The
breakwateraters themselves will slow the currents down and they'll be able to swim and enjoy that area Okay And you and you're not going to change the contour of the shoreline Just going to leave it in its natural state now And then just you're going to put the the structures in and then you're going to do the retaining walls and all that So correct We are trying as much as
possible to maintain that existing kind of curvature of the shoreline We're not reclaiming anything that was lost We're just putting a stop to the retreat of the shoreline Yeah I mean there'll be some upset voters on the weekends because that that thing gets lined up There could be 50 boats there some week
and they really squeeze in But you know um I guess we'll see how it goes with that sort of uh public opinion But you know I think all in all it's it's an excellent project Something had to be done We've lost a lot of shoreline there So but anyway thank you Thank you Appreciate it
just would you just tell me about the boardwalk what is um all going to be with the boardwalk and how many boats can this accommodate on the dock area so the the dock is principally a public safety vessel slip and then an open like dock for a boat that's up to 70 foot in
length Uh so it will accommodate the uh USGS and some Coast Guard vessels as well as smaller vessels They won't be permanently there They'll be dropping off or picking up passengers So no permanent moorings on the dock The boardwalk is just over 800 feet long and
uh uh those visiting the lighthouse will be able to enjoy it along with anybody attending a specialized program like the fishing programs that we have out there Um includes uh ADA access as well as some uh wider spots to allow uh people to kind of sit out there and look out at
the inlet and and watch the boats go by We uh very much appreciate you coming tonight to give this uh presentation and we certainly would welcome you back again If you see there's a status update you think would be appropriate to share please know you're welcome back Thank
you Excellent Thank you very much I appreciate it everyone Okay moving on to citizen comments This is a time for non-aggenda items and limited to three minutes Anybody wishing to speak uh is asked to state his or her name and address for the record prior to
addressing town council Do we have any public comments yes we have two First Michael Co Pepper After Michael is going to be Wayne Pausner Good evening My name is Michael Colp Pepper 101 Park Street Jupiter Firstly I
want to congratulate Mayor Ketsky Councelor Sunstrom and Councelor Choy on your recent re-election or election to your positions I know you'll all continue to do what you believe is best for the town of Jupiter At the March 4th council meeting at the
suggestion of our town attorney the council authorized staff to remove a parking condition that was part of the approval process for construction of a new building on a vacant piece of property at 954 North Old Dixie
Highway I come before you tonight to remind you of the historical parking issues that have plagued this area over the years Firstly prior to 1979 the block in which the property was located was originally
zoned R1 and later half of the block was reszoned to C1 Businesses were developed in the area previously zoned and subdivided for single family homes and some of the existing residents
were converted to commercial use These factors resulted in smaller commercial sites These small commercial sites experience demands that are not accommodated with single-use parking lots Another important component is the fact this property at 954 Old Dixie
Highway is a non-conforming lot due to it not meeting the minimum lot and area dimension regulations of the C1 zoning district Now folks don't get me wrong I support local businesses and I also support managed growth But I'm here to
tell you the parking list issue on North Old Dixie has been problematic for at least the past 18 years Old Dixie is the main entry road for the residential neighborhood to the north For the past 18 years these neighbors have had numerous discussions
and meetings with town staff elected officials consultants and property owners Heck I remember discussing the parking problem with Mayor Karen Galanca and she's been out of office for nine years now There have been many times I've
driven through this section of Old Dixie and encountered cars parked on both sides of the road and protruding into the road making it very dangerous to navigate The fact a vacant lot has not contributed to the parking problem should be a surprise to no one Likewise
as properties are sold and additional buildings are constructed a resurgence of the same old parking problems should be a surprise to no one either If the town is not going to put requirements in place which will help prevent future parking issues then I suggest you should
follow the guidance from a staff report which was presented to the council in June of last year This report suggested you proceed with code compliance action against those businesses that have inadequate parking pursuant to section
27-2827 parentheses C Thank you for your attention to this issue and I look forward to not coming before you again in two years to discuss this same topic Thank you Wayne Pausner Good evening Wayne Pausner 315 Karina
Drive Jupiter Florida 33478 Going to speak fast I know I only have three minutes I have a lot to say Um first of all I'd like to agree with Michael Um there's history right there sitting right there And when he says something you got to listen to him He's been there for so long and his dad was a
great guy ex- neighbor of mine Um and as far as the lighthouse and these things I weren't wasn't planning to speak on but the lighthouse project it looks like a great project I just want to know what happens to the Tarzan rope my kids used to swing on I guess
that's gone And I think it's called an arborist as as well not just a Tarzan rope but that was fun for the kids Good evening Congratulations to the candidates that won Um a little recognition for the candidates that did
not win They ran a good race And a little recognition for Cam who actually served on this council and he was here for quite a while So I think the little recognition goes to Cam for all his hard work Agree or not agree with him He did do service for this town So he needs
some recognition as well Um I just want to quickly say that u when I was on council um I did approve Andy Ford for the PNZ I just talked to him as he was leaving and I'm glad I did because he did great service on PNZ and he also did
great service as a councilman I also I think I believe I was the catalyst that got Frank to commit to be town manager I think I'm the guy that helped him make that decision But that was also a good decision And on that
note I want everybody here in the council to maybe reach out to the county commission because there's an open seat coming up an open position in the staff for um the uh county u manager It's very important because one of the people the
person the assistant manager now also was on Jupiter planning and zoning which I also was on planning and zoning prior to being a councilman and we voted him to be the chair He was reluctant but he was the chair of planning and zoning the
last year I was there Did a fantastic job His name is Patrick Water I think we should reach out It would be a feather in our cap and it would be very advantageous to the town of Jupiter to reach out to the commission and say we recommend Patrick Ruer He actually runs
the show now anyway He's the assistant He does all the hard work and he's experienced quickly Um I'm glad the new council's in I It's a slam dunk for the for the U Fire department which I believe is a great decision by all of you and it's always in the best interest
of the citizens So thank you very much for making that decision and keeping with it The bridge is going to finish on time and within budget I hope And uh that's a great decision we made many years ago and I'm glad we did the whole bridge at one time not one lane at a
time it proved to be the right decision Then traffic and road work where it was a consideration um a few months ago uh coming off 95 now we can see some real relief I've seen it I I go out 7:30 in the morning sometimes just to check and
in the traffic on the way home and it has we still have a lot of traffic but was definitely some relief by them improving that road Thank you uh mayor for being on that uh committee for the uh the
um council Um also um the um development um I'm sure we're going to make common sense decisions on development going forward There's not much left to do and I trust that everybody on this council is going to
make the right decisions Um and last but not least um counselor raises It's time Can you give yourself a raise it's been 20 or more 30 years cost of living just the gas you put in your car You got to give
yourself a raise I know it's not a great political thing but some somehow someway will get the citizens to to back that up doesn't have to be a big raise but you got you know everything went up in price You do a great job It's not a lot of money that you're making now if it's
really nothing and you should get and and a lot of you can use the help of getting paying for the gas in your cars Thank you so much for your service Thank you very much That was it We don't have any comment but uh I want to make sure Mr co-pro
knows that uh where were and that was a one time consideration we did So we will be mindful of anything else that comes through there So you your issues are well known have not been forgotten let
me assure you Thank you Mr Mayor Okay Uh moving on to consent agenda Um these are items uh 2 through 7 Is there any member of the public that wish to pull a consent agenda item no mayor Anybody on the dis wish to pull a
consent agenda item no Seeing none I'll take a motion in a second on approving the consent agenda I'll make a motion So move I'll make a motion that we accept the
consent agenda Second Have a motion to second All in favor signify by saying I I Motion carries unanimously Moving on to the regular agenda Item eight uh resolution 2325 This is quas
judicial Does council have any exparte disclosures vice Mayor yes I met with the applicant I believe a week or two ago I met with staff today and I drove by the site and uh I visited the site today to
observe conditions Uh counselor Yeah I I had a phone conversation with um Mr Herring and the and the applicant and I drove by the site today I had a phone conversation with Mr Herring as well
Okay Um so this being exparte I would ask those members of the in the audience that will be given uh expert witness to stand up and be sworn in Do you solemnly swear that the testimony
you are about to give in this hearing is the whole truth and nothing but the truth yes Okay Um it's my understanding uh Mr Bird that we do have uh you know intervenor correct so we
follow the intervenor uh protocols Yes Okay Um so I'll ask the applicant uh to uh make its presentation Good evening For the record my name is George Messimemer with Cotler and Hearing and I have been sworn in So
we're here tonight to uh on behalf of the applicant and property owner for the property located at 1352 South US Highway 1 Again I know it's been said a lot tonight but I would like to reiterate all the comments that have been made and congratulate the recent election winners Um look forward to
working with you all moving forward Um our our project team for this uh development has been a great group of professionals the owner and applicant We do have several representatives uh from their group here tonight It is a group of local doctors looking to create a
medical office on this facility on the site which would be an ambulatory surgery facility for outpatient procedures and would really be a great community asset Um Cotlin hearing handled the land planning and landscape architecture and site design for the project Our surveyor
was Cfield and Wheeler A traffic consultant and civil engineer for the project was Simmons and White And our architect was Block 3 Designs And we do have Chris Sable with the architecture firm here today Um again just quick summary of the application We are proposing a roughly
16,000 foot medical office on the site It was previously a restaurant Uh the property was previously reszoned uh in recent months to align with the US1 uh inter inter coastal waterway corridor overlay district and it is part of the
mixeduse residential Uh as part of that overlay district properties that are less than I believe 5 acres are permitted to be 100% commercial So there is no residential mixeduse requirement associated with the property The property again located on the west
side of US1 south of Indiantown Road Uh and just quick graphic in relation to where we are now The property does but the uh Jupiter Riverwalk to the west and directly has frontage on US1 We are just south of the
waterpoint uh development to our north And the land use of the property is commercial So we did not change the land use from the previous commercial designation So there there is no permitted residential on the property And then the zoning district as I said
is the US1 ICW mixeduse residential subdist The existing conditions of the site many of you will remember the Cabo Flats restaurant There's been a number of failed restaurants in this location The conditions of that site did not meet really hardly any of the existing land
development regulations in terms of landscaping and open space and uh buffering Um so just some of the existing landscape buffers I mean five feet on US1 so you'll see as part of our presentation substantially increased uh
a lot of these site features uh we have demolished that existing building in preparation for the construction of the new medical office So the existing restaurant facilities are torn down to make way for the new building So this is
a three-story medical office The first floor is parking under the building and we have two floors of usable space Uh there is a enclosed mechanical penthouse on the roof of the building So I think there may have been referenced in the staff report that it's a fourstory building but that top floor is just
mechanical equipment but by definition I think it's considered an additional story Uh looking at the site design um again substantial increases to the landscaping and the perimeter buffers Just a few of the numbers Um again the
square footage of the use were about 16,000 square ft Substantially more green space and open space than required more than double Uh meeting all of our parking requirements uh meeting our height limitations uh and the project has received uh traffic concurrency
approval from Palm Beach County as well as the town of Jupiter Looking at the site access the site plan is proposed to have two access points the primary being off US1 It's worth noting that the traffic report and study that was done for the project uh
only utilized US1 in terms of its trip calculation in uh the driveway trips The northern access point uh to the waterpoint facility was uh identified on the waterpoint site plan and plat in
that location So we had to comply with that uh location in terms of where we provided that access point on our site and internal circulation We are providing a complete uh circulation counterclockwise around the building uh
as well as on the south and west sides of the building There is two-way traffic We are providing a one-way circulation route underneath the building where we have uh ADA spaces as well as our electric vehicle charging
stations There are two cover drop off locations for visitors to the building One down that center drive and then one on the north side of the building Pedestrian connections We are complying with all land development regulations in terms of our pedestrian
connections We're providing the expanded sidewalk on US1 We were able to meander it into the property for a short distance It is a relatively small site but we were able to bring it in for that amount of distance and provided enhanced landscaping on both sides of the
sidewalk to help provide some cover Again we are adjacent to the Jupiter Riverwalk on the west side of the property and we are providing a connection through our site all the way out to US1 underneath the building Uh as well we are providing a connection to the north to the uh public sidewalk on
the waterpoint property which also connects over to the riverwalk Looking at the architecture of the building again we are meeting that height requirement We are permitted an a maximum building height of an average of 35 ft There are several elements of the building that exceed that but by
definition are not calculated in terms of what the building height is uh the design of the building We've got some renderings here that I'll go through which we are providing an accurate look at what that landscape design is And you'll notice right away we have these two large green walls on
the building on the east and west elevation So very prominent features Uh and this is a very somewhat unique design uh in terms of green walls which you'll see u a lot of lattice structures or wires things of that which would utilize climbing vines So there's a long
lead time for those to become established to where they actually look green Uh this system is a panel system and so it's going to look flush and green on day one Um and if there's any maintenance concerns individual panels can be removed and replaced rather than
if you know somebody gets carried away with the weed spray or weed whacker down below and it kills the whole uh system It would take you know potentially years for that to recover So um very unique system and uh it's been used successfully in several projects around
the state Uh another view Again uh you'll notice some of those Florida vernacular architectural details the bracket on the roof line the beah the Bahamas shutters on the outside of the building uh the siding just a lot of uh different
details that we work closely with staff to integrate into the design and make sure it was consistent with what the town's vision was for this corridor And a quick look at some of those materials again that we talked about the keystone the wood accents uh and the
colors again of the building Terms of landscaping as I said we're substantially increasing the buffering around the site including our 29 ft uh scenic corridor buffer along US1 as well as our 10-ft perimeter buffers around the rest of the site So
more than doubling some of those perimeter buffers Um we are able to preserve a number of existing trees Uh the site sat vacant for so long that many of those existing trees just aren't in any condition to be relocated or placed anywhere on the site And even if
they were their structure and quality is just degraded to the point to where it's not worth trying to save them But those perimeter trees there's a number that are good quality that we're able to preserve those in place and provide that mature canopy Uh we'll hear tonight a little bit about
the north buffer Um we met with the adjacent developers to the north water point and they were concerned about that buffer being adjacent to some of their town home units By code we're required 17 trees and a continuous shrub hedge along that uh northern buffer We're
providing 21 canopy trees as well as six sable palms Four of those uh buffer trees are uh enhanced live oaks which are going to be 14 to 16 feet tall at planting which is more than what's required in terms of the minimum plant size as well as six palm trees to
provide a little bit more uh verticality in that design uh on day one So we did that We offered that up up front just to be good neighbors trying to uh solve those concerns with our neighbors Now town of Jupiter staff have deter determined the application is in
compliance with the comprehensive plan as well as all town land development codes and we did receive unanimous approval from the planning and zoning commission for the project There are several conditions uh from the town staff and the applicant is in support of those conditions We don't have any
objections We've even already worked towards resolving some of those conditions Now there is a concern about our uh access to the north to the waterpoint property which we've talked about a little bit already and I believe there'll be another presentation about
that in a little bit more detail But we did work together with the town and the waterpoint developer as a potential alternative um to create this uh emergency access only It was a condition of their development order that this be a full public access drive uh and that
is a standard through many developments within the town of Jupiter and it's a comp plan policy that's been in place for a while So we did want to at least uh go through the effort and try to come up with a compromise and this was really the only compromised solution to where
we could satisfy some of their concerns still providing that cross access at least for emergency vehicles That's a policy decision Um so we'll leave that in your hands and we'll be happy to answer any questions on that or the project Uh thank you very much for your time I'll reserve the remainder of my
time Thank you Okay Uh staff Good evening uh council For the record Peter Meyer senior planner with staff The applicants request is consistent with the comprehensive plan and town code subject to the conditions of approval in resolution 23-25
Um I won't go over a lot of the details to the application because George did a good job of presenting that stuff But in regards to architecture staff has worked with the architect many times to to ensure that the the building is um consistent with adjacent buildings and
and architecture style Um I want to go into some uh information regards to the uh cross access and issues So prior to the plane zoning commission meeting staff received a letter from the waterpoint representative with concerns
regarding cross- access and landscape screening On February 11th the plans commission recommend approval of the application with exception to the crossaxis uh connection to be worked through with staff and the property owners After the plane zoning commission
meeting um staff met with the applicants agent and the waterpoint representative to discuss the cross access Uh prior to that meeting and occurring both parties had met um together and agreed to add adding um emergency access only gate um
which would be a style that looks like a railroad style crossing gate Um prior to staff received a second letter from the point representative um kind of elaborate elaborating on the cross access and landscaping and also
requesting to be an interven intervenor in this application Um analysis on the uh that letter and responses was provided under the engineering section of the staff report and per policies 3.2.5 and 3.2.6
six of the transportation element of the comprehensive plan Cross access connections are consistently asked for when developments are are in for redevelopment and in this case it's similar to what we do in Indiantown Road US1 providing connectivity between properties to do some trips on the road
Um the applicant site plan as shown shows the construction of the crossaxis connection and would be provided for the cross-axis easement per condition 6D in the resolution After the staff report was finalized and issued uh staff received
another letter from the traffic from the traffic engineer hired by Waterpoint which was emailed to town council today Um and then the other issue regards to the landscaping We'll go into that as George had mentioned that's um what
they're proposing but that landscape plan that was revised is part of the resolution So if you were proven a resolution you're proving that updated landscape plan Um and then there are three potential options that are outlined in the executive summary for the town council consider regards to
that condition for the cross access Um like I say there may have time for any reb butthole Okay Uh the interviewer may present its facts and evidence Good evening My name is Craig Rubenstein I'm council for Waterpoint I'd like to
start by saying that uh we come in peace We don't come to make war All right So I want to start with that And we desire to be good neighbors to the applicant and we desire to be good citizens in the town of Jupiter All that being said there is a disagreement Friends and neighbors sometimes disagree and this
appears to be one of those instances But what is the disagreement there are really two maybe three areas of disagreement relating to the cross access easement issue The first is from a legal standpoint which I'll address to give you hear straight from the course's mouth Then there are issues about safety
concerns and then the question about whether this cross access ement easement is necessary for the public Uh and the consulting engineer for waterpoint uh Mr McKenzie will address those last two points with a little bit of input from me as well Let me start with the legal
issue The legal issue is there's a recorded plat The recorded plat which is written in very very very very small font is page 363 of tonight's agenda And the pertinent portions of that are blown up for you on page 335 of
tonight's agenda And the specific provision that's relevant for our purposes is section four of that recorded plat That recorded plat just to orient everyone is the last agreement signed between Waterpoint and
the town That's the Bible if you will that governs what doesn't does not get done with respect to this waterpoint development And what that section 4 states in pertinent part is as follows The 24 foot wide crossaxis easement as
shown below is hereby here's the key language hereby reserved by water point condominating association It's reserved by water point It's not reserved to the town of Jupiter That stands in sharp contrast to section three right above it
speaking about a different easement which says that the public cross access easement is hereby dedicated to the town of Jupiter It's the exact opposite of the one we're here on today the one in section 4 the issue of the the cross access easement So it's Waterpoint's
position that from a legal standpoint it has no obligation whatsoever to consent to this easement existing Now I know Mr Bear disagrees with me on that point and that's okay He's a fine
attorney but you know what even fine attorneys can and very often do disagree on interpretations of contracts That's why we have a court system But I can tell you with confidence Waterpoint has no interest in litigating I'm willing to wager the town has no interest in litigating and that the applicant has no
interest in litigating But there is a fundamental disagreement on that point Now there are also disagreements about whether this easement is even necessary And what I'd respectfully submit is let's assume for the sake of discussion that the town has the right
to require this easement does not necessarily mean that it behooves the town or furthers the interest of the public for the town to exercise that right So the reality is the easement is not necessary Why do I say that well there are variety of reasons The first
is if you look at the traffic report by the applicant's uh own traffic consulting firm firm Simmons and White and you look at its report and specifically page 355 of
tonight's agenda there is a diagram provided by Simmons in white which shows the ingress and egress for that site and the only ingress and egress that is shown is the existing ingress and egress point at the southern end of that property it's only showing one access
point an egress point So the applicant itself isn't even its own traffic consultant isn't even uh lobbying or advocating uh for the existence of the second access point to the north In addition there is no cross access point
with respect to the applicant's property and the property to the south of the applicant So if these multiple access points were truly necessary there'd be one both on the north end of the applicant's property and the south end of the property but there's not because it's not
needed We'd also note that when restaurant a restaurant was on this site there was just the one access point at the southern end that currently exists At the February 11 2025 meeting before the planning and zoning commission uh the applicants engineer told the
commission that the medical office building is quote not very large unquote and it's not The applicants engineer also told the PNZ commission at that same meeting that many of the parking spaces will remain empty because it's not a particularly large building And as
I noted before uh there is already a single point of access and ingress any grass at the southern end of the uh property approximately 200 feet south of this e proposed easement that we're speaking of today And the other thing I'd note is
that it's not just an issue of whether users of the office building have a need for an additional uh access point at the northern end of the property It's also a question whether the waterpoint residents need it They certainly don't need it They've got a driveway coming in
off US1 leading in and out of their property What the waterpoint residents do not need is cars coming in off of US1 cutting in front of them as they're trying to get out of their community to go into the northern end of this medical office parking lot building It's creating safety issues with Mr McKenzie
will address in more detail in a moment but it's certainly not a need Um and also as a practical matter um I don't know that somebody a somebody using the medical office building traveling southbound on US1 would realize that well gee I can cut in
across this driveway to this residential community that only has a sign for the residential community Cut in that driveway cut in front of traffic cut across a side pedestrian sidewalk to get into the north end of this uh this office building parking lot I don't think it's a practical matter people
even realize it's there anyway So like I said we want to be cooperative We want to work with everyone And that's why at the direction of the planning and zoning commission we sat down with uh the applicant and with town staff and came up with this proposed compromise where
there would be an easement for emergency purposes only Uh and while our primary position is there shouldn't be an easement at all if there is to be one we'd ask that it be the compromised easement that both the applicant uh and Waterpoint uh are amanable to And with
that I'll yield the time to Mr McKenzie to address the safety issue from an engineering standpoint Thank you Let's see just one moment speech Uh good evening My name is Sean McKenzie I'm a professional engineer with McKenzie Engineering and Planning I've got over 20 years of experience uh
performing traffic engineering safety and analysis studies and experience in the field Former resident of Jupiter so very familiar with the area as well Um as you know the Waterpoint project is located on the west point west side of
US1 Um and immediately north of the US1 medical office building Uh zooming into site a little bit more the cross access easement in question is located on the east side of Water Point Uh very in very close
proximity to US1 a 45 mph uh posted speed road four lanes Uh so pretty high speed Uh when we zoom in and we're looking at right at that waterpoint driveway We've got that crossaxis
easement we measured off as roughly 47 ft So that can accommodate about two cars um on the outbound lanes But on the inbound lane for anybody that was going to try to enter the US1 medical office you really only got about 25 ft So one
car could stop there before the next car in line backs up onto US1 And then in terms of trying to anticipate someone stopping there when we look at our DOT standards traveling at 20 m hour you'd need to have 115 ft
of visibility to stop in time And at 25 miles an hour as someone might be making a left turn off a US1 that's 155 ft of sight distance where we'd want to know whether or not someone was going to stop So right now this is a picture of
looking eastbound out of waterpoint So you can see it's a very tight uh curve linear road and also on the left side of your screen you can see very heavily vegetated area as you come into waterpoint somewhat obscuring sight visibility for those southbound drivers on
US1 Here's a quick picture uh looking inbound again And you can see that same heavily vegetated area on the right side of your screen And you can see that tight curve linear design going into water point Now FDOT studies have generally
identified that right turns onto major streets followed by subsequent U-turns are a much safer movement than direct left turns out of a a side street or driveway Now this crossaxis is encouraging more left turns out of water
point which is projected to increase left turn traffic and this poses a risk of increased angle collisions which are one of the most dangerous types of collisions So not something we would want to encourage Similarly and and I think also another
concern is that left turn crashes for someone turning traveling northbound on US1 to turn into Water Point If a vehicle stops in that inbound lane because they want to make a left turn into the US1 medical
office then the vehicle behind them because we know cars oftent times move in platoon they move in groups Well if the first car stops what do you think happens to that second car right behind them so that bec that is also again an increased left turn crash risk versus those southbound vehicles traveling at
45 plus miles an hour on US1 Similarly the southbound right turns uh we talked about potentially those vehicles one anticipated vehicle stopped in the entrance and their uh their sight distance is obscured by that vegetation on that
corner And lastly um the applicants traffic study as we can see here um this is their graphic of the access They have the one access point off of US1 They did not look at this cross cross access in
terms of safety or capacity to understand what that would do to the waterpoint intersection U not sure I haven't seen any information as to whether or not this additional traffic and information was posed to DOT in terms of modifying the permits um that
would be required Uh so at this time I would not recommend this as an operational vehicular cross access connection Thank you Okay Um so following each party's presentations the representatives of
attorneys of the other parties may cross-examine question witnesses of the other party seeing none Okay just following on the protocol here Okay Um we're now going to open it up uh
among the council here to ask questions of staff the applicant or the intervening party Um not for comments but for questions Um councelor Delaney do you have any
questions sure For staff staff coming up Yeah Stefan here Um so so cross access was part of the water points development
Yes Plan correct yes Okay To the contrary to what these representatives stated it was required as part of their development approval to provide cross access to the north and to the south To the north is to a public uh parking for
riverwalk which was provided for Mangrove Bay right which is why it's a little bit different in the plat language Um to the south we do what we typically do which is to require cross access between um developments
So that there's none to to the development to the south And when was that developed how old is that tiarra del Soul um was done about about eight years ago Okay And Tier and to the south of Tiara del Soul it's and to the uh west is Jupiter Ridge Natural Area right
um and in this case the reasoning for the cross access one it's it's typical for us to ask for um cross access throughout the town Um and two there's three median cuts in this area So one is
right in front of water point There is no median cut directly in front of the subject property The next median cut connects the water point to Mangrove Bay up to Charleston Labs That's the
next median cut And then that property connects to the next median cut which is at Mangrove Bay So you know trying to address access management having proper um access along US1 We like to make sure
that you know these things are coordinated and planned Um so that that's why it was required on waterpoint Okay Um and does staff have any other issues with this application in general
is everything to code and and it um it um you know jives with the with the comp plan there's no other issues Correct Correct Okay Okay And that was it Thank you Okay So um just a question of the applicant uh to begin with and you
mentioned this but uh just want to get further clarification So on the north side uh there's oneway [Music] traffic correct and just curious what was the purpose of just having uh oneway traffic
part of it was was directionality with the entrance of the building on one of those main drop off points Uh otherw otherwise dimensionally we wanted to enhance the green space around the perimeter of the building And so in order to do that we limited it to oneway traffic and it seemed to work what
better with the flow of traffic around the site Okay Um and with that you know and do have do you have an opinion and if so give it If you don't don't don't give it But seems like the oneway traffic on the
north side would somewhat limit the use of cross access um versus freeway on the south side Yeah For a vehicle entering that north access point they would be directed to the right There's going to be signage and
striping on the road that would direct them uh to the west around the building and then back out to US1 if they came that way If their purpose was just to exit the property um I don't think it limits the functionality of the site Again I think you know we were proposing this flow of traffic around the building
that would lead people to that uh that drop off point um if necessary or or just circling the site So I think it it works well with the site circulation Okay Thank you Uh and staff just kind of followup and it's about uh the
traffic Um so um you know on page six of the report staff report it did indicate that neither the town engineer nor the town traffic engineer uh views any safety concerns as as
presented Is that still the case uh that's correct I mean they just the town's traffic engineer reviewed the new information and didn't necessarily disagree with that Um but he he
generally agrees with the fact that we require cross access which is a good thing Um he he recognized that there were some in instances that the um intervenor brought up that was um
specific to the site of Waterpoint but understood that the subject at hand is not that property So that there was no there was no opportunity to make changes on the waterpoint property with this application before you tonight So um he
didn't disagree with the site visibility issue Um but if you read the if you read the information we provided as part of the comprehensive plan it's based on several factors Whether or not it's safe
um it improves the future roadway network Um and whether or not that it's it's to ensure well it I said the safety part to address uh increases in intensity and density Um the site plan
that's uh for the office tonight is is generally standard The Jupiter area study for example has uh around the max and I know you're familiar with this mayor of office buildings having an F of.3 This is around um the subject
application is around.37 So it's in the realm and then there was a slight increase of density on the waterpoint site um when they came in for an an approval which increased the site from six dwelling units to 8.4 dwelling units
per acre So the these are all things that you know we want to bring to you so you can you know weigh out the uh options and right understand So um and I guess you're speaking for the traffic engineer here So just one more question
The uh there's three lanes at the exit from Water Point to US1 There's one inbound lane and then there's two outbound one left turn and
one right turn Um and between the uh eastbound and westbound there is a double yellow line So anybody that was uh going southbound
if they were ever to think about turning into this cross access it'd be illegal because the double yellow marking Is that not correct that was one of the comments that um CJ uh Lan brought up
about needing restriping properly Well the picture that I saw show you know the aerial or whatever it showed double yellow a double yellow marking as existing Maybe was in the applicant the intervenor presentation So uh so I I do think
that's an unlikely move Um and um okay that's all I had Thank you If I could ask uh a few questions of staff first Thank you Stephanie Uh just
an easy one quickly Tiara del Soul to the south Have there been any comments from that community no And I walk the riverwalk pretty frequently because we had a recent project there um with with on the riverwalk So um you run into a lot of
residents and they've all been pretty um positive and I haven't heard any There was originally concerns if it was more residential actually but they were um glad to see that a nighttime a low a low user at nighttime would be there So I
hadn't heard any negative comments and we haven't received any in the office from Tiara Okay Thank you And then for Waterpoint uh residents have not moved in yet I remember walking that section of the Riverwalk recently as well And so that's still under construction They're
they're close to their cos I believe Yeah So they're I think we coed um the shell of of one of them at least but I I'm not sure if anyone's moved in yet So Oh yes One Okay So some people have
moved in Okay But they've been moving pretty fast on on the site So we can yeah we can see that the the exit to the the the entry exit point we're talking about for this parcel um we're talking about median cuts So if you were to
enter this medical office uh you would do a right turn from route one and if you were to exit it it would be a right down to a U-turn Yes And then do a U-turn that's down to Ocean Way That's where the the U-turn would be So there
is no left turn out of this parcel without the cross access Is that right the point of the cross access was to offer that option right to people Okay Um now the going back in history uh I
think it was a 2017 approval for waterpoint and it contemplated cross access as well There was a lot of discussion at PNZ and council at water points approval at that time Is that right correct Okay And the design is
very different It's not a straight exit It is curveal linear as they say Um and I agree with the intervenor's point of just visibility issues and proximity to US1 Um even more so given the curve of
linear design it might be um safer with a straighter you more direct access but with the curve linear it is kind of confusing and with the right and left turn there so the three different lanes um how what you know I see the cross
access to the north for water point to the parking lot and that's kind of back further away from US1 um what is staff's or what is the planning principle for creating cross- access easements across parcels so close
to arterials like this Is there a thought to public safety when they get so close to where you would turn into that development or turnout so in other locations like on Indian Town Road for example if you can see like if you go
through for like over by um Walgreens and CVS over here um if you have to weave in sometimes you don't always see the cross access because it's in the back but on between
COST and CVS it's closer to the front so you make that decision point and you can see oh that's the way to get in And and as you live here you know which way to go if you can bypass the the light But a
lot of times it's based on you know whether or not the site design provides for the cross access in a positive and meaningful way I mean it we we can't all make them perfect um you know are they a service road
which is really what what we're trying to accomplish is a service road close to the arterial so that you can make that route through and not have to siruitously make your way through So there's I mean you know we we compromise
at times So I understand that Yeah Because you want to if you don't see it you may not use it So I love penock I'll go to I need coffee and I have to go back behind the building and I know the secret way but not everyone does right so people may not use it and I understand that Um like the one behind
Walmart that's a big one Yeah I'm just fascinated because the the curve linear design was in the original approval with the access easement at this location and not further back So you know I know that we can't get everything right in 2017
for today Um but you know that that was a concern with um the transportation element of the comprehensive plan I just want to um ask about 3.2.5 So it says review access management and new roadway connections
associated with new development So review redevelopment and upgrading of existing properties to ensure safety to ensure safety and compatibility Um it does say require vehicular and pedestrian connections but that's not in
our LRDs Is that right correct Okay So safety is my concern in asking these questions Um particularly with the design So while I appreciate and will always support the principle of interconnectivity and I think the compromise may be a good one because you
want to maintain that option and planning has to plan for anything for anything being put there in the future You don't always know um the safety concern is is relevant here and it's more about the execution of the
principle given this design concept of the curve of linear design Okay So I just wanted to touch on those things Um let's see And I that's all for now Thank you
Thank you Joy Just for a little bit of history for me um p prior occupants in the site adjacent to Water Point Do you have any were there any issues with vehicles coming and going accidents just
a little bit of knowledge when it was the restaurants You mean it was when it was 1352 or Cowboy Flats There was there wasn't any cross access So I'm I mean I'm not aware We didn't pull any uh any of the records from the
traffic um crashes or anything incident reports We didn't pull anything from there Okay Don't know Thanks Do we have any public comments no mayor Okay the
uh would the applicant have any final remarks you wish to care to make or I think I'd just like to say thank you I think your questions were all very insightful and and uh good and I thank the intervenor oddly enough for for
their presentation Obviously we're all just trying to make the town better Um so um the location of the cross access again was identified on their approved site plan and in their plat So we were kind of tied in to the location Again it's not like we could go further east
because they have town home buildings there So you know even that the town staff were limited in where they could put it There's a number of those examples throughout the town But you know there is a compromise on the table to where we could make it uh emergency access only Whether or not that full
fulfills the comp plan policy entirely there's obviously a safety concern which is valid So we thank you very much for your time tonight staff any have any additional closing comments does the intervenor have any you have three minutes left Thank you
Very very briefly I just wanted to address a concern raised by councelor Delaney and that was the issue of the development order You raised a question about that The development order was prior to the recorded plat So my comments were directed to the recorded plat which came after the development
order and it's the recorded plat as the last document the last agreement signed by the parties That's the document that does not make the cross access easement mandatory It reserves it to waterpoint does not reserve it to the town That's the point that I was making I wasn't referring to the development order So I
just wanted to clarify that point Uh and no matter what you decide we very much thank you for your your time and attention today Pleasure Okay Uh thank you Um we'll now begin deliberations Um mayor if if I may just to kind of
frame the issue for your deliberation Um the issue here is the application of these two uh transportation policies and you apply your comprehensive plan policies to
properties when development applications come in and you apply them on a case-bycase basis So there may be instances and there have been instances in the past where the cross access easements are
functionally warranted and and uh address those three issues of safety improvement of the road network and density intensity And then there there may be instances um where the application of those
policies to a particular property um does not implement those policies and and and it's based on your judgment and based on your judgment on what you've heard from the applicant intervenor and
staff here tonight So as you deliberate um my suggestion to you would be to consider whether the uh under the conditions of this site whether the application of those
policies warrants that cross access easement in this particular location Okay Um thank you for that Um I guess just in beginning deliberations I'll just go first but in going first doesn't mean I'm not uh going to
certainly take into account what others indicate but number one um I I'm not sure what first of all I do believe that when water point was improved the development order was issued there was a clear intention in
the future to have the right for when the current uh applications property were to be redeveloped uh to provide a cross access such that it could uh be able to make a direct left turn at
the median open And I will say that um I've observed this quite a bit Anybody that thinks that a U-turn is a good movement a U-turn at an intersection can be no less problematic
um you know in in potential for conflict I mean I I see that all the time So um I personally believe that a left turn opportunity is no less
um risky than a U-turn just as as a personal I don't see that the issue of inbound southbound cutting through uh you know the water point is
reasonable because that would be breaking the law and and you know could be dealt with So I think the way it's marked limits um anybody to just using that while you could have it inbound you would actually
have to drive up and circle around in Water Point which I think is an unlikely that anybody would do that or if they did it they do it the first time and then and then take the inbound in the in the more southern uh opening Um so uh
you know I I tend to agree and accept the uh opinion of our traffic engineer and town engineer that I'm not uh I'm not convinced there's any more risk from a safety standpoint than there is You
put another car in the road and there's a safety risk I um that just uh you know my feeling about it I don't know what the an emergency access would ever provide um to me What what would be the value of
that i I don't know that there's it hasn't been presented here to me that there's a need for emergency vehicles to ever have that other access point Um so it almost that you know uh alternative
compromise seems to me to be you know delivers no value So I you know I unless someone knows otherwise So it's you know so at this point you know hearing from the rest of my colleagues I'm inclined
to uh uh go with what the staff had recommended requiring a cross access So any who wants to go follow yeah I I agree um you know over over the years I don't know how many years we've been you know pushing the cross access with the
the comp plan but it's um I think it far outweighs any I mean it I'm sure that has avoid um um helped avoid many accidents over the years of just having to get back on on a busy road turn back to go you know up
you know a half a block down the road I mean cross access in this town is outstanding and um it it just adds to our safety fee um of of of our um of our of the vehicles on the road So and I I agree with the mayor I don't understand what a
what a um just emergency access would you might as well not even have access there But I'm always in favor of the cross access Um and and May do you mention the lines here they're not white They are yellow on this Yeah because they're white here
Yeah So you know it's a mandatory you know right or left turn there And and I agree with the U-turn issues also And I I would like to I always like to see um a uh parcel of this size to have at least two ingress egress One's a little
a little crowded for me Um and I I understand the one way inside the parking lot with the with the the uh diagonal parking and all that So but uh yeah I I don't I don't I'm not in favor of the compromise To me it's it's I
don't think it's worth it Um but I I would always defer to staff on this one But I I'm always been in favor of the uh cross access wherever we can put it where it's feasible and it makes sense And I I think it's not as you know important here as it is in some of the
major plazas in town but I I I think it's definitely warranted that we that we we keep it in here and it it it holds to the U development order of Water Point to the north So and I've listened to my other colleagues So I was actually um I am currently in favor of the
compromise So for a different a slightly different opinion So um you know the restaurant had that right turn only uh to exit access and U-turn and I um I could ask staff but I hadn't heard of
concerns about that area ever um with I could see uh for larger vehicles kind of an attractiveness to that wider entrance with the three lanes the one in and then the two out Um if it's not busy I could see people trying to cross that double
yellow line um to try to enter that property Uh I think you know I agree I support cross access This design is very wonky with the curve linear design If it were straighter I'd feel much more at
peace Um but I would you know I would be concerned about just the design of it the visibility Those trees so close um block a lot of visibility as designed for waterpoint I hadn't asked and we could get into um any tree design and
that median for those looking to exit the waterpoint property um in the median before the double yellow line But I worry about with all the landscaping just visibility generally um the proximity to US1 and probably the
temptation to make a right and then immediate left if you're a larger vehicle uh wanting to enter that property Uh I you know I think the for that very reason because it's easier for larger vehicles it might be easier for
emergency vehicles which are large um to access that way if needed for a medical building right Uh I do think that the emergency access kind of keeps that easement open Again staff has to plan
for any any changes to these parcels down the line Plan for anything in the future So uh the part waterpoint is a mixed use You know if it changes uses or design down the road or if anything changes um maybe there's an opportunity
to help improve this but you know it kind of is a placeholder until that point and and allows for medical access So those were some of my thoughts um on this parcel The safety concern is what is sticking with me specifically with
this design I fully support the principle of cross access and want to keep it there with that um you know just keep that cut there for the future but um the execution of it is really strange with with the design as is at waterpoint
and as stated by staff we can't change that design so so those are my thoughts council joy in going through it I agree with all of your comments here the emergency medical
I'm wondering if it's because of it being a medical building that there could be a need for other vehicles to come into the building itself Is that what we're talking about when you're talking um emergency i'm just trying to envision
what that would be And oftent times if there's a patient or someone in there that needs emergency medical services higher risk of bot higher risk Yeah And again I'm trying to conceptualize this
Well normally under the site plan process if there was a need for that it would have been identified and addressed I'm just saying is the norm I mean aesthetically I think this building is
what would look and work well in the environment where it would be on US1 Safety is always going to be the concern Um but our staff has done their due diligence Um the landscaping
aesthetically again it looks beautiful I don't know how fast things grow if there are any obstacles as they grow for safety going in and out Um but I the engineers have spoken and I I agree with
what the staff has come forward with I agree It's a wonderful building and I love that they've be um made the landscaping buffer greater I'm glad to hear that there are no concerns from the neighbors So this is just a very my uh concern is just the safety concern for
cross access easement but it's certainly not with um the building the use the design So I just want to say I think this is a perfect case of redevelopment Um it's pretty much the same footprint as the old building a little bigger
Yeah Um terrible spot for a restaurant Um and this is a perfect spot to put a commercial medical building on that um on that um US1 corridor It's not really um it just fits in It's not in anybody's
face It's you know it's just it's it's just fits and um I can't think of a better purpose for this for that parcel you know something like this So all that I think the architectural is very nice Um so it was just you know we just got
to bring in for the landing the cross access issues So and I I everybody has valid points I'm not married to anything So but I do I'm I'm a cross cross access guy as you can see And I just I think it just gives another option to people you know especially want to get out and take
an immediate left as opposed to just going down to the U-turn And I do like to hold you know when somebody has a development order and they said we're going to put this in you put it in I don't like this going back and renegotiating it So yeah I do agree with that which is why I would support the
emergency access which is a bit awkward Yeah this site with the curve design is awkward for me but uh that's my only concern So I think I know but uh and for our newest council member so when we have quasi judicial proceedings I always
pulled this out It's 11's 11 steps So we just finished uh wrapping up nine which is deliberation Now I se sequentially uh solicit comments on the position from councils which I think I've heard but just to kind of confirm I think the vice
mayor uh was not in favor of what was presented but with the uh uh modified cross access for uh emergency use only Correct Right Correct Uh I was supportive of as presented and I'll just
go down the line here I think as presented So we have we have three in favor of as presented Um so I'll go ahead and call for a motion and a second
Uh motion to approve as presented I'll second Motion in a second Any discussion none Uh all in favor signify by saying I I I opposed No Motion carries 3 to one with
uh the vice mayor dissenting Okay Um moving on to reports Town attorney Thank you mayor I'd like to welcome councelor Choy and uh I'll have a homework assignment for you that
uh prepare for you tomorrow It is a uh memorandum that I circulate to all council members that addresses issues such as quasi judicial proceedings ethics and voting conflicts And uh it's
a fairly lengthy about six-page document and uh after you've had the opportunity to review it if you have any questions would like to meet with me talk about it by phone whatever your pleasure is whenever you would like to do it uh if
you'll just let me know I'm happy to go over it with you And uh congratulations to the returning uh council members and uh Ron congratulations for not being in that
last election Thank you mayor Those are my comments D manager Thank you mayor Um just a couple of things Um some updates The art committee's next gallery exhibition titled Dreamscapes Beyond the Frame opens this Friday April 4th with the
reception at the Jupiter Community Center We invite everyone to come out and take uh take in this art which will be on display through the end of May Uh registration for our popular Jupiter U tours is now open Several of our tours
are full but we do have availability in five tours If anyone wishing to learn more about it can visit the town's website at jupiter.fl us/jupu As part of this year's Jupiter will host a state of the town event with participation from town council on
Thursday March 8 at the Maltz Theater Um I wanted to provide some updates and some inquiries We've been getting a lot of calls regard from residents and some council concerns uh regarding the trash along I I 95 and Indian Town Road Um staff has been in
contact with the Florida Department of Transportation and its contractor that is responsible for maintaining these roadways We've we have received assurances that the contractor Versa Global Solution will address the issue and follow up with the town once the
cleanup is completed I'll provide further updates uh once we get that information So the centennial celebration continues with our next history presentation on Wednesday April 9th Presentation titled from small town to coastal gem will
focus on the town's responsible development and growth since the 1970s and will feature our former mayor Karen Galanka Uh on Friday April 11th the town will host its annuals touch a truck spring fling beginning at 4:30 p.m at the
Jupiter Community Park And then finally our next connect with council uh open house is scheduled for Wednesday April 10 In addition to having council members present to answer questions from residents staff and external partners um
will be available atformational tables Um we're introducing something new this year here We're going to try it out as the event will include three short breakout sessions each approximately 10 minutes long to provide deeper insights into key community uh projects and
topics The breakout session topics for this one will include ebike safety the parks and recreation master plan and playground renovations and an update from the Jupiter Fire Department That's my report Mayor
Council Joy Well it's been a been a great night I thank you for your patience everyone Um and we're ready to keep working Councelor Delaney
I just want to say welcome aboard Council Choy Um you put together a remarkable team to get here It was very impressive and uh looking forward to working in the future have fun Few quick items Number one
um just to add on the I95 trash Uh we had a recent inquiry where the town was contracting for the pickup on a different road And I remember staff sharing that in the
winter months early spring the grass doesn't grow as much so it's not mowed as much So the trash isn't picked up as much So just to be mindful of that So I would guess that could be part of the issue on 95 But
just like what the town manager said you know contractors have to be reminded but it may be the case They're not out there that often I just share that because I learned that from staff Um we should talk about and I'm just throwing this out
here the process to fill the council vacancy for district 1 It's for a less than one-year term We learned u to our dismay that the runoff for example is
$160,000 Is that not correct uh approximately 160,000 So for you know it's a used to be $80,000 a couple years ago So you know and this is all our choice but that since there's less than a year left um I think I imagine it's a
consensus that we would not have an election because that's one of the options we have The other option is to appoint someone and then the third option is to ask uh you know interested parties to submit a resume of interest
and then we review that Um so uh is there any uh input on the last two options uh because then we can perhaps move forth with starting that ball rolling Um I
guess I'm inclined to go ahead and open it up uh you know and and ask you know residents uh that have interest in the district one seat in applying this any other consens opinions on that i agree
Uh that process worked well for us recently We have some recent experience on it but uh I would say you know given that it's specific to district 1 Um that you know we're looking we need
to make sure that they're residents I remember last time we had people apply and they provided their address That helped us verify a number of things Um so we would want to make sure um that you know some basic criteria are met So I think that's best done um by accepting
applications and understanding more about you know who who's interested in this uh from district one So I would support that and we I I believe according to our charter we've got two meetings So this one and the next one to agree on a process So by having this discussion now we can talk about uh
maybe at the next meeting you know what our criteria would be or what that application process would look like to give better direction to staff So I I like that idea I do too And uh district one geographically is sort of an odd we'd have to get the word out and make
sure people know what district they're in because it's that swath that runs down along the water and Yeah down to the bluffs Correct Correct Yeah Yeah So yeah but I would agree we open it up like that So I would support that as well I think with transparency um have
the residents get involved right away What's your time frame when do you have to have this completed by i think it's up to us It's our process It's driven But that's something we can think about for the next meeting as you know because we only
have two It's kind of nice to get this out in this meeting so that we can be thinking about what criteria um I had given criteria the last time when talking about nominees and I had talked about um you know just uh evidence of
you know prior engagement with the town be it a board or volunteering um you know community engagement um just verifying the residency because we did have non-residents apply and district one resident resency we had a lot of district 2 residents apply last time So
I would want to clarify that going forward this time Um and you know things like that So professional experience can be a bonus as well I'd ask staff to uh share with us what was the process
you know what was the time period we used last time Um and I do believe that uh by starting this discussion tonight and finishing it um at the next meeting I do think it's important this is was my
lesson learned was each of us to state criteria that we think is important because last time that's when we basically uh uh got Andy for out of
the list of candidates if you will Uh but we had a lot of applicants from district two and uh I wasn't expecting that but I remember when we were viewing them I commented that for me you know I'd be
inclined to want somebody from district one So I'm not I'm just using that as but one example So let's come prepared at the next meeting Well it has to be district one No but it doesn't have to be I don't believe it should be but but
the point is then if if there was unanimous on that okay then we would state that as a valid requirement right if there's not then we wouldn't but nonetheless you know I don't want to exercise people right that are from
district two um so again we'll uh let's consider that and we'll get back any other ideas you have about about we'll get the update on the process And then if there's any specifics that we want to add or
inform prospective applicants about that that would be our opportunity Right Mr Barrett are we on track with Thank you So the next quick item um is on a
strategic plan Um it's our practice on a strategic plan that we wrap it up you know in the first couple months of the calendar year and and for those cases that we have
a new council member elected for a three-year term we give them the opportunity to you know is there anything that you would like to add so I would ask Councelor Choy uh and who I
happen to know um was keenly interested in a strategic plan so is already very familiar with it but and I'm not trying to set her up but uh so um the ball's in her court to review it and if you have
anything you would like to add the way it works is you would get with staff get through the town manager's office um because that's where we all individually and just kind of follow that same process Then um this would come back as
an agenda item with suggested ads or if you have none then you would just report you have none and you know as it is what it is Um but we give you that opportunity because this does drive
the upcoming budget you know cycle So wanted to make sure you know you're afforded that and don't have to wait a whole whole year So this can either make the next meeting or the one after it I'm not trying to be pushy here It depends No no I'm just saying we don't want it
to linger So if it turns out it has to be two meetings from now fine But you know just get with through the town manager's office and it will input you have Um so then uh the next item I had
um and I'm also trying to message to the public who misunderstands the role of a mayor I'm just one of five up here uh but you know I have the role of making sure that we're discussing topics um uh that
um require some kind of policy guidance So I think there's a policy guidance opportunity now that we've got uh you know three elected reelected members of the council and along with councelor
Delaney that the Abakcoa town center residential density was an issue that um had come to council under I would say
roundt and we had not while there was a consensus of three to just continue consideration of something it somewhat languishes if in fact and we
don't want our staff to waste time in an application review critique if in fact a town council majority as an example in this case doesn't support increasing the density entitlement So I just want to repeat I
just want to say on the record that I do not support increasing the density entitlement if there was a majority that were to give that policy guidance and I'm not saying anybody has
to take a position here or not but then it would go to staff they would understand we're not going to prove that and then that application effectively you know ceases to be processed because that's you know and not very few
applications fall in this category This is one that the site plan can't be reviewed without us or can't be processed without us agreeing to an increase in density and entitlement So so I don't and I just go down the dis
here if others have a position they'd like to policy guidance they'd like to give on that that policy item um became a major item of the campaign uh and it wasn't one I expected and it became a
large gathering um that many candidates were invited to and um a pretty organized um group that were very willing to share
all the nuance around that area and some of the concern So um what I had expressed there was that I do agree um with supporting you know what what is already there the entitlements there and
not going beyond that Um there are a lot of changes happening in terms of traffic flow and um not necessarily because of anything in Abakoa but around it Uh and so it is
it's a it came to us as a round table Um it was a policy question To me that policy question has been asked and answered through the election So I would agree um that I wouldn't support it U this is a sticky one for me because
the applicant is a customer of mine in my private business So I don't know if I want to comment on that right now cuz I would probably be abstaining on the on the application if it came in So okay I would
um agree to I want to go back to what's already in the plan already Stick with that No variance is allowed And I would definitely support not to increase the density but I want
to be sure that what is originally there if it's if somebody chooses to move forward with it can but I would not add a variance onto that one site Well seems like we have three which is a
majority and we're simply stating a policy guidance that three members do not support increasing the dens residential density entitlement that that implies whatever is there now
enough language I don't know exact numbers but we're not doing anything about that It's we do not support increasing the density entitlement residential Is that is that clear to staff okay And mayor for the record I just want to clarify my comment I would I want want to consult with the town
attorney on where I should if I should abstain from this or just the applic you know what I mean So no understand and uh it doesn't matter you um sunshine and so okay but you deferred I deferred right
and um so we are staff has their direction vice mayor first of all welcome councelor choy um to the dasis you know uh you have been involved in our community for a very
long time and I you know I had met you at other engagements um for some of the um charity work that you've done and I've seen uh your involvement previous swearing ins and other things like that So it's just um most people when dipping
their toes formally into this don't have the experience you had So you really uh you came in you put together an incredible team You put an incredible effort You didn't give up when it got tough and I'm just so impressed and so
um excited to work with you So thank you and and welcome there And uh the second item was just about the ebike uh event and I think our chief isn't here tonight but he was earlier That was an incredible event and far exceeded my
expectations in it when asking for it Uh you know we have heard about ebikes for a long time our police have been incredibly active for a long time and the way he handled um the audience and you know he just he attacked the issue
So it is a a force in our communities I we're seeing it It's very they're very visible the police in our communities now and I've seen it on Facebook quite a bit Um people are pleased with uh some of these enforcement measures and education measures Uh it was nice to
kind of bring clarity on on some of the the laws and the rules of the road Um I look forward to hearing more about what police are doing going forward and future reports and metrics on that and their effectiveness But I have to say
just an incredible job by everyone in planning that event and executing it so quickly Um and thank you very grateful and I know our community was as well Thank you for bringing that one up Um from what I heard and I wasn't able to
make it due to a family uh commitment out of town uh but I heard it was uh an extraordinarily you know well needed and well uh uh implemented meeting I'm grateful for the vice mayor to have having s
suggested that uh we do that And somewhat on a related topic but um I would like staff to uh you know get back with us on this you know that was you know that whole um situation you know
was happened due to a very unfortunate fatality um to middle age you know middle school age kids and uh um which really difficult age to deal with that kind of
thing and uh they wind up conducting a uh an event um releasing you uh balloons that I don't believe you know is legal in the town You weren't
going to stop it at the time I learned about it Um but perhaps we can go into just some kind of education about that Um so that um in the future people might
better understand uh there may be better ways to have a memorial event And I say that because some called me out on social media about that Uh but uh any event you know there was a
tremendous outpouring of you know families that went to an event and you know released a large amount of of uh of balloons and I know the environmental uh consequences So the best we can do is to
somehow try to educate and that's really what I'm asking for I mayor I wouldn't feel bad you wouldn't want to get in the way of a grieving family and I I got those I saw those comments too and I just was more irritated by them than
anything People lost their son and understand you know I just let them do what they want to do So no but I I know we can get upstream on that and that's all I'm just asking right um I know I understand and I know and this will this will come to
this is kind of I know we're going to be talking about boards and committees later Um but as as things come up little or big I think I'm always going to be looking for something that we can invite others to help us with So the environmental committee for example could help us look at what messaging
might be effective for our website or how to present that um or work with staff So you know I've been looking at our committees and I I want to get more involved with that one but I also just want to always make sure that if someone is joining a board or committee that
there are tangible things that they can do you know to be of help So that may be one and and I've heard of others and I'm going to that's going to be something going forward where if there's something we can give to a committee briefly to provide some input or just in depth
because we can talk about it kind of superficially here but if they want to take a deeper look that could be good too So not everybody's aware aware of all the environmental issues with balloons and really Yeah Exact Yeah And they they are Yeah Okay Okay The time is
now 9:23 and we'll adjourn the meeting Made it Gets harder No No it doesn't It gets easier Huh you'll you'll learn over time What's that you'll find that
potato and you can't read everything I'm sure I'm sure there'll be more platform We'll get it a peritt