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Video-Count: 2
Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=PJv_36Sc0OU
Video-2: youtube.com/watch?v=9Hreu6TeXTc

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MEETING SECTIONS:

Part 1 (Video ID: PJv_36Sc0OU):
- 00:00:00: Introduction of New Frontline Leaders for Fire Rescue
- 00:05:52: Annual Traffic Update: Crash Statistics and Trends
- 00:16:23: Traffic Conditions on Indiantown Road: Data Analysis
- 00:33:47: Public Comments: Cat Overpopulation, Delaware Avenue, Park Issues
- 00:34:40: Public Comment 1: Cat Situation on Summer Avenue
- 00:38:28: Public Comment 2: Health Issues Due to Cat Situation
- 00:40:22: Public Comment 3: 500 North Delaware Avenue
- 00:41:39: Public Comment 4: Sinquaz Park & Indian Town Road Light
- 00:44:47: Public Comment 5: Concurrent Site Plan Processing Support
- 00:47:25: Public Comment 6:  Concurrent Processing - Policy Adjustment
- 00:51:18: Council Response to Public Comments, Minute Approval
- 00:53:40: Consent Agenda Discussion and Elsol Lease Approval
- 01:05:40: Discussion:  El Soul: Continued Funding and Support
- 01:07:22: Support of Elsoul's Invaluable Resources and Opportunities
- 01:21:40: Approval of Contract Amendments and Interlocal Agreement
- 01:35:55: Discussion: The Rationale Behind Building A Renovations
- 01:40:39: Reports: Town Attorney, Manager Updates
- 01:46:36: Comments by Council and Meeting Adjournment

Part 2 (Video ID: 9Hreu6TeXTc):
- 00:00:00: Proclamation Completion & Fire Chief's New Leadership Introduction
- 00:07:17: Annual Traffic Update: Crash Trends and Prevention Efforts
- 00:17:48: Traffic Congestion Mitigation Strategies and Infrastructure Improvements
- 00:35:08: Public Comment: Nuisance Cat Population Concerns
- 00:39:34: Public Comment: Continued Cat Health and Safety Issues
- 00:41:22: Public Comment: Osprey Nesting Recommendation on Delaware Avenue
- 00:42:38: Public Comment: Sinquaz Park Tree & Dangerous Stoplight Issue
- 00:46:19: Public Comment: Supporting Concurrent Site Plan Processing
- 00:48:36: Public Comment: Concurrent Application Processing Details
- 00:52:32: Town Council Discussion of Public Comments
- 00:53:05: Council & Staff Discuss Cat Issues, Osprey & Stoplight
- 00:53:38: Council: Sunstrom Unavailable But Processing Is Available
- 00:54:28: Motion to Approve May 5th Meeting Minutes
- 00:54:44: Discussion & Vote to Approve Consent Agenda (amended)
- 00:56:12: Discussion, El Sol Lease Extension & Financial Stability
- 01:07:07: Public Comments on Extended El Sol Lease Benefits
- 01:18:16: Council & Vote, 5 Year Lease, Termination Clause
- 01:22:58: Discussion, Consultant Selection Criteria, Potential Grant
- 01:31:08: Discussion, IL Agreement For Firefighters Ride Alongs
- 01:36:39: Council Discussion: Important Public Works Renovations.
- 01:41:57: Town Attorney: Nuisance Aspect With Respect To Cat House?
- 01:44:06: Update: Sidewalk Project, Memorial Day, and Fire Events
- 01:47:55: Council Member Reports & Additional Items Discussion


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--------- Now we we have two presentations. uh for the first presentation. I call up our fire chief and I don't want to steal your thunder, but we are excited for those that are joining us this evening. Thank you for having them here.

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>> Uh thank you, Mayor, Council, those in the audience tonight, and those listening from home. I am beyond excited to introduce to you our new 36 frontline leaders. These are our captains, lieutenants, and

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driver engineers. These men and women represent the absolute best of the best. They are the architects of our reputation and the guardians of our culture, and we could not be more thrilled to have them. They've been with us now since May 11th, so a week and a

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few days. uh as we've gotten to know them even better, uh we are absolutely confident that we have selected the right people for Jupiter Fire Rescue. Um in this period of time, we've had some

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time together, we've been working uh tirelessly on leadership topics, including accountability, expectations, vision, mission, core behaviors, focused a lot on leadership. uh we continue to also work with them on uh topics like

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policy process, our SOGS uh but we're also getting them out into the community uh introducing them to uh some of the unique aspects of the town of Jupiter uh spending some time with them and I know a few of you gotten to spend a little time with them at lunch and some of you have some of that coming. So we just

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thank you so much uh for this opportunity to introduce them to you tonight. Uh we thank you for this opportunity for Jupiter Fire Rescue to serve this community and I am telling you I know that you are going to be more

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than happy with the team that will be out serving you. So I can have them stand So, uh, you guys can have a seat. Just a couple quick other updates beyond, uh, beyond the introduction. I just want to

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throw out two other topics. Uh, fire stations. So, on May 15th, we received our stocking permit for our two new fire stations. Uh, Chief Martin had uh furniture delivered yesterday and today

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and it's already being assembled. Um, at the end of this month, we'll have our TCOs, our temporary cos on these buildings, and we'll occupy our two new buildings by June 6th, and that is coming really quick. Uh, and then, uh,

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again, Chief Martin has been doing an incredible job. You know, I tell you, he's done so much for us. Uh he's in charge of all of our logistics, supply, support services. Uh he's been doing like the lion share of the work here lately, you know, getting all the things

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we need for a fire department. And he was able to get uh really pushed and he got all three of our fire engines delivered to uh 108 on the West Coast where they've been completely outfitted. And I think on Thursday, uh, Chief

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Martin and a team are going over to pick up our three new fire engines and bring them back here. So, that's also very exciting. Uh, so that's all I have for you tonight. Short, uh, these folks have been here since, uh, 7 7:30 this morning. So, uh, I'd like to let them

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get out of here. We appreciate it. Do you have any questions of them or of us? >> I think each of us did have the opportunity to have a uh have a lunch and a quick lunch and meet and greet. We welcome that. Right, everybody. So, uh

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we welcome the you to the town of Jupiter team or as I told you when I met with you, we're more excited than you are. >> And um unless there's any >> No, I'm excited. I feel like I know you all now after yesterday.

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Welcome. >> Yeah, my my meet and greet's coming up, so I guess you know you folks in a little bit, but we'll let you go home because it's late. So, >> well, you realize with 36 people or firemen to sit and talk to, you get one and a half minute per person, right?

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>> So, time you make the rounds, introduce yourself, that eats up the 54 minutes, just the meet and greet. So, there is no time for lunch, right? >> So, but I really enjoy today meeting with all you. I really appreciate it. Welcome to Jupiter. So,

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>> and uh so at this point, thank you, Chief. Um I we'll we'll take a brief moment here uh to allow not only um our uh uh newest staff members and fire rest

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fire department uh staff along with the other uh staff members that and uh community members that were part of the two proclamations. Uh we'll just take a moment here. If you wish to leave, please do so before we

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restart we start the meeting. Thank you. >> Okay, cool. Did you do your >> Yeah. Well, now we'll move on to the U presentation on the annual traffic presentation.

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>> Uh, good evening, mayor, council. For the record, Shane Lunsford, deputy chief of police. I'll be doing the the first portion of the annual traffic update. Uh this update is going to cover a three-year period from January 23 through December of 25. Uh during that

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time frame from 24 to 25, you can see we've uh declined 4% in crashes, which equates to 84 less crashes from 2024 to 2025. And there's been a slight decline during that 3-year period from 23 to 25

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as well. Uh the major roadway crashes included Indiantown Road, alternate A1A Military Trail, US1 and Donald Ross Road with Indian Town accounting for 46.4% of the crashes along what we consider

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major roadways in 2025. at those top five crash intersections. Indiantown Road uh at Alternate accounted for 68 at Central Boulevard at 65 at Island Way 46 crashes at Donald

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Ross and Military 37 and at Indiantown Road US1 and again at US1 and alternate A1A had 30 crashes each and again most of those occurring along Indian Town Roadway. >> Before you uh go beyond that, I just wanted to make one observation. Um and

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uh for the members of the public that are here or watching, um this is a very special annual update we get because it's the opportunity for we on the council um and the public to understand what the trends have been. Um, and so we

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get this every year. And so I was delighted to see on the top five crash intersections, because I save these reports each year, so I can easily go back that Indian Town and Alton A1A in 22 was 75, and 23 was

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90, and 24 it was 120. And uh as we had speculated um that being a detour route with the bridge that was the reason we were thinking was the cause of the 120. So it most significant to me to see that go

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back down to 68. I just want to have kind of shared that with with the public. >> Absolutely. >> Thank you. for our DUR related crashes and arrests. Uh we've seen a a a decline over the

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past three years. 20 24 to 20 25 there is a 17% decrease in DUI related arrests and that correlated with 33 uh% decrease of DUI related crashes during that same time frame. So it went from 134

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u from 161 to 134 and 42 and 63 respectively during the past year. for motor vehicle crashes involving bicycles and pedestrians. We've seen an incline over the last three years. Uh non- incapacitating and possible injuries, routinely accounting for the

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majority of those injuries at about 79% for 2025. And as you know, in April of 24, we started the ebike safety campaign. And as of today from 2025, we counted 11 ebike related crashes.

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of those 11 ebike related crashes of 2025. Uh, one was a fatal from March 13th. That was the one at Indian Creek Parkway and South Penn involving a middle school student. Uh, since that we've still focused our efforts on proactive enforcement with 183 citations

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and warnings for ebikes given during the 2025 year. That concludes my portion. Do you have any questions related to anything >> on the ebikes and eos? Were there any of them that were actually u town had to take possession of and have towed or

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anything? >> I don't have those. Those would be arrests. So, we can look into that data and provide that. Uh some of the citations would include citations issued when we did arrest, make an arrest for fleeing to elude or obstruction or one of the other charges, but I could

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certainly look into that data and provide it to the council. >> Okay. Well, you know, this is and I and we I'm very we're all grateful for everything that that our uh uh police department is doing to con, you know, continue to educate ongoing and and try

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to keep working on changing behaviors. But this being for the most part kids, I I know you know you have to keep on top of that. So, we're grateful for that. Thank you. >> I had a question on the 183 citation. Is

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that primarily involving youths? >> Yes, we could look at the stats and data, but most of our focus and just so you know from from some of the efforts we do, and it's a daily effort from both day platoon, uh they're directed each day at the end of release for both middle schools to do extra patrols and

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high visibility, not only to enforce traffic, but specifically for ebikes, uh because we know that's a that's a high time frame. So most of those citations are going to be related to juveniles and not adults. >> Okay. On those citation, what's the

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consequence consequences of those citations either to the uh the rider or the parent of the rider? >> It's on a regular uniform traffic citation. Um that does have consequences in affecting your license later on. It's just like getting a ticket. Once you're in Florida, you get a number assigned to your name whether you have a license or

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not. It does affect what time frame you can get your license once you become 15 or 16 and take the course unless you get that citation taken care of. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. >> Just a question on the citations and we talked about this in the past on the ebikes. How many citations are

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put against somebody before it jeopardizes either their license or a future license if at all? And do you know how many of the citations are multiples to an individual? >> No, I we could look up that information.

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Uh I just have the total overall data is kind of like the crash data. This is the total amount we got. We could dig into that to see where it was. And as far as the points that are associated with with them, it depends on what the actual citation was. Was it a moving infraction? Was it a non-moving infraction? Was it a reckless? uh all

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those affects the points and when when license can or cannot be uh obtained later on. >> Okay. All right. >> Deputy chief um back on on slide two. >> Yes, sir.

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>> Uh in I think it's November of 25 the trend was down yearly, but there was a spike in and crashes on that month. Any is that just an anomaly or >> I'm sorry, which one were you referring to? It was um slide two um November of

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25. The graph seems to jump up sort of out of out of the trend of the year for 25. >> Don't know what the jump was. However, >> that might might be worth looking into to see what was going on during that

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time frame. If >> that November, >> yeah, we could we take a look at that. >> Just just curious. might be an anomaly or just, you know, >> and what do you attribute to the decrease in uh DUIs, crashes, and arrests? >> Well, crashes, couple things. Uh, and as far as the the

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crashes, it's it's it's kind of self-explanatory. If there's less DUI related crashes, we're going to have less arrests associated with that. As far as the other um just to take into extra measures of of stuff that we can do to make sure we're staying proactive.

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>> Yeah. Uh next week, um we're doing a DUI field soiety task force training hosting a school here at the Jupiter Police Department. Uh that's a two-day course that a number of our officers are going through. There's going to be another one in August that a number of our officers and from outside agencies can attend

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also. Uh that's being instructed by our own in-house instructors. They are certified to do that. And in addition to that, all the new hires we bring on during their first year of probation, they're all going to go through that same two-day class. just as a refresher from the academy. So, from a proactive standpoint, we're going to make sure

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everybody's still familiarizing. We're pushing that that agenda moving forward, but um two classes, one starting next week and another one in August, just to make sure we're staying on top of that. >> But it the trend generally there's less people drinking and driving.

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>> It could be without actually having data to look into that, I could say there probably is. Um ride shares are also more prevalent than they are before and those type of programs. But I don't want to rest uh my laurels on on some hypothetical maybe we're going to make sure that our guys are

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trained and ready to go out there and do the job. >> There's also trends of uh young people less people drinking in general which I've heard >> from my my own son who's 21 and and his crew and my daughter who's 26. >> Uh yeah, that tends to be the trend from

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what I experience in my own house. >> Right. Yeah. Same here. So, okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. >> Yes, sir. Uh for the record, CJ traffic engineer George is also here to answer uh any question you possibly have. Each year we

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evate uh the traffic condition on Indian town road. uh this year we evate the condition during the pick season 2025 and also beginning of this year as well as the August uh in all uh P season. uh

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we focus on the uh travel time index which is very popular uh the measure of effectiveness that the people are looking at and this TDI is derived from the big data platform primarily is the pro prove vehiclebased

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uh uh database from a nationwide uh database. Um the TDI is simply the ratio of the actual travel times uh compared to the free-for-all travel time. So a value of the two indicating the actual travel time for this segment is twice as

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much of the travel time during the uh the free um conditions and uh the value of 2.0 zero or higher indicating that uh this segment is at its capac physical capacity which is corresponding to labor

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service E during last year February and the March uh TTI are most of the um most critical segment on Indian town row exceed 2.0 in the AM pick uh for the eastbound traffic and the uh PMP pick

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for the westbound traffic. um after the signal timing was improved uh improvement in um April midappril last year the the TTR was improved uh substantially uh by uh 30%.

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uh beginning of this year uh the entire corridor got retired by the county again and uh um the TDI was able to uh improve slightly and right now the TTI is is around uh

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1.5 on the average in both am but the day-to-day variation in the travel time is still remain still remain um uh significant In line with the county's uh comprehensive uh master print efforts,

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we also re evar the same uh on the major service street uh primarily on the corridor um during the p and pm. Um the ttr on most of the corridor remain below

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1.5 1.6 six uh which is a pretty good conditions and u those um but a handful that does ex exceed like Indian town road indicating 2.0 zero indicating the

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over capacity condition again. And these are typically caused by the high demand, the ineffective uh green time um improvement on the corridor and also the fluctuation in the demand patterns. And

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notice that the county still implement the so-called time of day time of day uh signal timing. Um so it has the limited relatively limited capacity to deal with this traffic uh flaw patterns uh variations.

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So we hope that the the adaptive traffic control system that currently test bed um implemented on Okchobee can be a success and later on can be uh adapted to the different parts of the county

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including Indian town. Yeah. We do have several in signalized intersections um which has been uh report by the deputy chief uh in town that does uh present the safety concern

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um in terms of the I'm reporting the the um safety concern in terms of the crash rate which is the number of the uh crashes divided by the exposure which is the uh traffic count and

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Elton L1A and Indian Town Road in the sections uh state uh a top um in the town and followed by the Riverside uh drive and the L10 and A1A and we also pursue the funding

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opportunity to mitigate those effect and try to improve the infrastructural uh resilience hardening the signal pole and um uh master arm and um and additional signal head will be installed on the uh

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Cypress Drive. We also continue monitoring the um the the performance at the university um and the central boulevard roundabout and the two-way left that constructed by the county on center

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street. Both are currently operating in a pretty uh acceptable level. Lastly, um Andre mentioned about uh how we u address the mobility and the safety uh need in the town. The town's CIP uh

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program uh along with those um of the external funding agency are summarized in this um map as you can see. Um this improvement can be broadly categorized into four category.

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Intersection improvement, roadway improvement, uh safety fencing on FC corridor and lastly the pedestrian cross the crosswalk safety enhancement. Um some of

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the project are uh northw worth it um noted here including the um Indian town road westbound widening to fall row. Um this project is scheduled to be for leading

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in this coming summer and anticipate uh construction is anticipated to begin um by uh November November uh this year. The PDN study for the most critical intersection central and the Indian town

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road has been awarded in March and uh anticipate to be completed in 36 month uh 3 years from now. Uh finally, the signalization at um uh

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Tony Pena Drive and the Central Boulevard currently is in design phase. Um and the construction is anticipated to begin uh January next year. Um and we hope that the the

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interlocal agreement will be impressed by that to uh for us to uh begin construction this uh important intersections. I will be more than happy to answer any question if you have. >> Could you just uh back up one slide?

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Um just wanted to really more point this out to the public. you know, you can comment about it, but you know, we the 59% on Center Street uh the uh two-way left turn improvement

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that was done, that's from Lockache River to Indian Town Road. and that being the same upgrade that the county is planning to do from there all the way east to alternate A1A. I think it's significant for those members of the

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public that you know had any concerns about that project. You could just see having a dedicated turn lane has results in a very very significant reduction in crash frequency and crash rate. So you'd

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expect the same when they do the project further to the east. Correct? >> Yes. Or even better because we are in the process the planning zone and also engineering department are in the process of injecting the more concrete

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street complete street design into yeah into their uh design work. So uh to to be able to improve like um um printing the mediums and also the um the

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multi-use trail multi-use trail um the the um on the both side of the roadway one side of the roadway. Yeah. So uh those additional improvement um once

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it's wired in you would anticipate to even have a higher uh uh benefit. >> So moving on back to page nine I just have one uh couple comments here uh page nine forward >> forward

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>> forward you know to the last page I said back but I'm sorry we were on page nine. Um I'm really delighted how this every year um has resulted in the fact that having our police and

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engineering department focus on traffic issues throughout the town. Um how that leads to a pretty large scope and it may take a while to get them but so this of intersection improvements, road

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improvements, grateful for that. So two specific questions. So the Tona Penna Drive complete street being a 2035 cost feasible project. I'm not sure that I knew about that before and maybe that was Can you give

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us an update on where that stands is that in the MO process or what? Yeah, it still remained as uh cost feasible the uh uh TBI specific the program and the

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the the funding. Yeah, I guess it's $6 million for it. >> Ballpark. Yeah, >> I'm sure the council would be interest if there's any detail about that. I'm sure the council might be interested in that. Occasionally we get questions about Tona

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Pana and uh but that means 2035 there is no funding for it. I can right I mean this is just >> a project that is uh was uh was thrown out there as being into a long-term plan. Um and then this lastly do you have any

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update on the FEC car fencing? the >> I'm not trying to put you on the spot because I just want to know if I need to >> the um FDOT implement that uh safety u grant in two uh direction. One is for the fencing. >> Yeah.

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>> But uh one is for still the enhanced crossing. >> Yeah. >> Myself by um installing the delineator and the marking RPM so forth. Right now per FDOT they focus on the second counter measures which is uh still the

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the crossing uh safety enhancement for the fencing. Um they are um uh possibly uh reactivate uh the communication with the FC

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uh together to review the the rightway uh requirement for the fencing. So uh it is still possible uh that the uh the the reviewing process will be continue after uh

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>> but there was actually grant funding forward in Jupiter was there not? >> Yes. Uh yes but they they per like I said the per FDOT right now their focus is to finish the cross >> uh crossing safety first.

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>> Okay. I'd be interested outside of this meeting to get any contact information on that. I if I can help to nudge them along. Thank you. >> Sure. >> Any other question? >> I just wanted to make an observation um on the alternate this is on the high crash location on page um 8.

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>> The mitigation done at alternate A1A in Riverside within the last few weeks. I test that several times a day. And there are those and I don't know what they're called the metal markers or they're tall and when so when someone makes a turn

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now they have to go slow down and make the turn whereby before they were making turns left or right didn't matter which way they came and sometimes it was on two wheels. So that alone I'm going to be watching to see if that has really

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mitigated because just what I'm seeing it was a great great addition to that corner and I would have to believe it's going to reduce some of those accidents. Great job. >> The possible imprint by by the county. Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, thank you to the county

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then. Great job. >> Uh CJ on slide nine. um road improvements number eight Indiantown Road westbound four laning. Can you describe what's going on there?

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Oh um we thought that the um the uh the uh Congress uh EO funding for that and originally was to improve uh to to widen the the the second phase of Indian

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town interchange improvement. So basically extended the the force land from the central all the way to the current uh the the the um the Jupiter west plaza to to have the complete the force land. >> Okay.

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>> Yeah. >> Okay. But not continuing down towards 95. >> Yes. >> It would continue down 95. >> Yeah. It already does. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> But it actually the scope got reduced because of the PD&E.

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So the westbound would only pick up about a couple hundred feet west of the uh mobile gas station, >> right? >> So it's not from center central boulevard. >> Oh yeah, there were there were like um acquis land acquisition issues, correct?

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With the gas station? >> Yeah, for the gas station. >> Will that ever get ever changed and or was that a permanent situation? >> No. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. FDOD decided to set aside the right away acquisition process and then to be able to expedite

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that project. >> Okay. >> There's hope because it's encompassed into the PD study for the intersection. >> Mhm. Okay. Right. Which is few years down the road. Right. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. And one question on that uh any town road widening the fourlaning.

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You said it's going to start in November. >> Was that correct? >> Yeah. How long will that last? That widening adding that fourth lane. You have a schedule. How long it's going to take to put that that fourth lane in?

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>> Let me reach back to uh FDOT project manager for that. >> And will they require closing any of like the three lanes in order to put that fourth lane in? I'm concerned about starting in November right during the peak of uh the season

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and we may be closing potentially a lane on Indiantown Road towards the interstate and we've already got traffic backed up. I just wondered what the plans were as far as road closures there and for how long. Um George

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>> George Zama for the record uh deputy director of engineering and public works. Um so DOT actually um let the project and the bids came in and they are actually evaluating the bids now. So it's a little earlier than expected. So

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they hope to begin construction sooner than November. Either way, we are going to be impacting into uh season. Um I would expect the project to last at least eight eight months, 8 to 12 months, but we will get confirmation as

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CJ said on the um the construction schedule when the uh construction contract is executed. Um as far as uh maintenance of traffic, the intent is to keep all lanes of traffic open. Good. >> And um you know, if there's intermittent

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lane closures, they try to uh perform that at night when it's not impacting traffic much. It's going to be similar to what we experienced with the initial widening project. So there may be some intermittent closures uh preferably at night and mostly at night, but um there

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may be some daytime. If it's daytime, it'll be outside of peak hours. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Have further question. >> All righty. Um, >> good. >> Seeing no no other comments or questions. Thank you very much uh for

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the presentation. And now I'll move on to citizen comments. This is the time for all non-aggenda items and it's limited to three minutes. And anyone wishing to speak is asked to state his or her name and address for the record prior to

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addressing the council. Council will not discuss these items these this evening and any issues get referred to staff for followup and then a report is provided to the council and citizens will be contacted and so with that I believe we

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have public comments. >> Yes sir. We have six speakers tonight >> on non-aggenda items. >> Yes sir. >> Okay. >> Our first speaker is Carla Adamsberger followed by Jen Kleer. Uh, good evening. Um, my name is Carla

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and I live on in Riverside Drive Park and I'm here regarding the ongoing cat situation on Summer Avenue. Um, right now I'm just at the point where I just can't stand the smell, the pee, the poop all over my yard from our

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neighbor behind us cats. Um, I have a beautiful pool that we spend a lot of money on. I have a patio, but none of it can be enjoyed because honestly, the smell is horrific all day, all the time. I live right behind her.

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And now with the heat coming, it even gets worse. Um, there are all kinds of cages and stuff in her backyard. Um, honestly, it's a mess back there. her yard and my neighbor's yard are litter boxes, including my yard.

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Um, I don't I just don't think it's fair for me to not be able to enjoy my backyard and my pool that I've spent a lot of money on. I just I have a new grandson, so he's over there swimming, but there's days where we don't even go outside because it smells so bad. He we can't

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enjoy it. I put in fake grass. I just spent $2,000 on fake grass, which I'm kind of thinking maybe that wasn't a good idea because if I just spent a lot of money of my hard-earned money. Um, we left for a vacation. I came back to poop

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and pee all over my back porch, a brand new carpet, my deck box, the wall, the baby toys, the pool floats, which were all brand new cuz like I said, he's he's, you know, only 15 months old, which it I had to clean all that and I'm

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just tired of cleaning it up. Um, I've replaced rugs, cushions. I mean, like I said, the deck box. I have to clean it up all the time. Uh, it's on my porch. It's on the deck. It's in the rocks. It's in my grass in the front

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yard. It's in my beds of my plants. It's all the time. That's all I do. And it has to be a risk, health risk, not only to us and the neighbors, but to the lady who lives in that house. I can't imagine it because if I can smell it that bad, I

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can't imagine what she's smelling all day long. And I mean, I've talked to Officer Black a couple of times um from animal control and she suggested that I buy things to deter the cats, but why should I have to spend my hardearned

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money? I mean, I have a whole fence. It would it would take hundreds and hundreds of dollars for me to keep this ongoing. I mean, it's every day. It's not just once in a while. They have they're on my golf cameras, so they're on my golf cart. They're on my roof. They're on my boat. They're on my patio

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deck. They're on my car. They're on my tables in the back. They're on my chairs in the back. I mean, my house is an Airbnb basically for them to enjoy. And And you can just say it's one or two cats, but it's not. It's multiple cats.

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And there's I mean, I know at one point there was 30 or 40 cats over there, and they're all over the place. They're just everywhere. you see them all day long everywhere. So, um I would just like someone to think about if you were in this situation and you live there and you had

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a grandson and family that wants to come over and you want to have time in the backyard. That's what we do in our yards in the summertime. That's what it's about. So, thank you. >> Thank you, >> Jen Kyler. Good evening, council. Um, again, just

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to piggyback on what Carla said, um, I'm here tonight regarding the ongoing health issues in our neighborhood that has affected our residents for many years. Uh, we have a neighbor, as Carla mentioned, that has accumulated dozens of cats with no regard to the health and safety of those around her and herself.

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And for years, multiple neighbors have repeatedly contacted staff within the town of Jupiter, animal control, cold code compliance, and the police department. Officials have visited the property and issued warnings and code violations. Yet, the problem continues without a meaningful resolution. This is

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no longer just a nuisance issue. It's become a public health issue and a quality of life concern for surrounding residents. The ammonia smell outside is awful. And it and again, I ask you to put yourselves in our shoes. What would you do um if you were exposed to this day in day out? Would you want your

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family exposed to the persistent odors and the animal waste on your property? We have done our best to follow every channel available to us, and it's cost us a considerable amount of time and money, but little has changed. What has compelled me to be here tonight is that a longtime resident and a truly great

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neighbor ultimately felt forced to move from his home after living next to this unsanitary and toxic situation for 11 years. I'm truly at a loss. I'm not here asking for any punishment or any additional conflict. I'm simply asking for someone to finally take some

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responsibility and to stop turfing this ongoing problem to someone else. I believe you're going to actually be receiving um some additional emails from the neighbors that couldn't be here tonight um just because we're all frustrated and we just request some additional guidance on this issue

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whether it's contacting the health department. Um, I know code compliance has been out there in the past, but again, no resolution has come from any of this, and it's just been going on for far too long, costing us way too much time, energy, and money, and it's affecting our health. Thank you.

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Our next two speakers are Peter Polland and Leanne Lawbeck. Uh my name is Peter Pulland. I live at 703 Irwin Lane. Uh I'm want to comment or on the property at 500 North Delaware

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Avenue. Uh I appreciate what you've done with that land. I'm glad so glad you bought it and I appreciate the removal of the exotics. But since you have removed most of the meluca trees, uh, we don't seem,

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my wife and I have both commented, we don't seem to see the number of osprey we used to see over the creek. So, I would like to suggest or request that we install that you install an osprey nesting post on that land.

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I think that would increase the number of osprey and I think we would all the neighbors would enjoy the osprey. They're such wonderful birds. And if finances are a problem, I'll pay for it. >> Thank you. >> Thank you.

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>> Leanne Wbeck. >> Good evening. Um, so I'm glad to hear that we're celebrating Arbor Day in the town of Jupiter. Uh, I do wish that we had been able to save the tree in Sinquaz Park a little bit better. Um, I know that there were promises made that

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it would be left as is, but it does look like construction has breached into it. It's not going to be able to grow any further and it has unfortunately been damaged with the um, uh, construction

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from Sinquaz Park Fire Station. I believe I forgot to mention. Hi, my name is Leanne Lobbeck. I live on Carver Avenue for those of you who haven't met me already. Um, so, uh, I do hope that we'll be able to enjoy the park soon. I

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know that construction is never fun for anyone and, um, I'm excited to see things wrap up, for the portaotties to be gone, for the construction vehicles to be gone, for the park to be usable again. um and for there to be a sidewalk

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towards the bus station that my son takes um again and you know fewer hazards for the children of the neighborhood. Um however, the most problematic thing and the thing that I wanted to address the most today was the

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new stop uh light that's been put at the end of Carver Avenue on Indian Town Road. Um, for those of you who haven't seen it, it's for some reason shorter than uh normal stop lights. It's directly in your eyes whether you're

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driving or walking down the road. You can see it for the entire length of Carver Avenue, whether you're walking or driving. And unfortunately, the bright red blinking red lights, there's two of them for some reason, can be seen from

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my front yard. So, I can't leave my house at all without having bright flashing lights in my front yard. Uh, I can't walk in my neighborhood without it in my face all the time uh since they turned them on a few weeks ago. So, I'm

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hoping that there is another solution that can maintain the safety on Indian Town Road that can help um make sure that the new fire trucks can, you know, do what they need to do safely, but can

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also allow me and I'm sure my neighbors to continue the enjoyment of our private properties as well as continue to enjoy the neighborhood once it's restored to a usable state Again, um I'm hoping that

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the staff can review this and review the location and uh report back with options that safeguard our enjoyment of our private property um and also address the needs of that intersection that's been created for the purpose of the fire

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station. Thank you. Good evening. Our next two speakers are Todd Fabry, followed by Richard Rendina. >> Good evening, um, mayor and council members. Todd Fabri, 20145 Southeast

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Bridgewater Drive. uh wanted to just briefly speak in support of I believe a letter council may have gotten a copy of towards the end of April, early May and staff regarding uh supporting the idea of allowing concurrent processing of

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site plan applications alongside related land use and zoning applications. Uh, concurrent review benefits both the applicants and the town by giving staff and council a more complete understanding of a project earlier in the process, allowing policy decisions

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to be made with the benefit of actual site planning details rather than in the abstract. It also improves the efficiency of reducing unnecessary delays and duplicative review cycles and costly redesigns that can occur under a

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strictly sequential process. In today's environment, in rising construction cost and financing challenges and rapidly changing market conditions, timing is often critical to whether a project is able to move forward or not.

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Importantly, allowing concurrent submittals does not reduce the town's oversight or public input in any way. The council still retains full authority over the approvals and hearings. It simply creates more coordinated and

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predictable review process that benefits uh all parties involved. uh many jurisdictions already utilize this type of framework because it helps streamline administration, encourages quality investment and allows projects to move forward more thoughtfully and

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efficient efficiently. Um I believe this may have been a previous policy that was somewhere along the line may have been changed to not allow the concurrent review but would like uh just to respectfully request that you consider a change to that policy if possible. and

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thank you for your time and consideration tonight. Thank you. >> Our final speaker is Richard Wend Reendina. >> Good evening, mayor and council members. My name is Richard Randina. I live on

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Penic Point Road here in Jupiter. Um, also the CEO of Randina Companies located in Jupiter, Florida in Abicoa and been a Jupiter resident for 20 plus years. Um, I have a copy of the letter

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that Todd just cited um that was mailed to each of the town council members as well as the town attorney and town manager. I can Am I able to give those? Not that you need them, but

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for reference um u my father Bruce Randina along with George Guardiola were involved in the original development of Abakcoa including portions uh of the commercial and town center

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development. Groundbreaking was 1998 1999 of the town center. Mayor Kitky was elected in 2001. Um, I'm here tonight as followup to my April 30th letter. I'm asking for

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consideration of a simple policy adjustment uh to allow for concurrent processing of site plan applications with land use or zoning applications uh at the applicant's option. While I call this a change, it's really more of

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a return to how the process worked for many years. Um, I understand the current approach uh was implemented with good intentions uh during 2022 2023 time period uh when council

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member uh Cheryl Snder was serving. Uh I believe the intent uh was to improve efficiency, help applicants such as myself, and manage staff workload. Uh but in practice, it's having the opposite effect.

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Um disappointed to see that uh council member Sunstrom isn't here. She's the only one on the dis that I've spoken to directly about this. and uh maybe you're able to to speak to

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her about that. Um but today both council and staff are are being asked to make decisions in a vacuum without a site plan, without knowing what will ultimately be be built. It's very hard to for council members and staff to be

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able to approve a zoning text amendment, a land use change without knowing what the developer's intentions are with the site plan. Um staff puts in the time but that but without full context. Council still

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makes decisions but without full visibility and the process adds time in an environment where timing matters. Uh costs change, markets move, projects become harder to deliver. Uh the adjustment does not reduce oversight. It

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does not remove public input. It simply gives everyone more complete information earlier in the process. And that's the goal. So, I would respectfully ask um that the town council and staff review the policy and

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bring back a recommendation for an optional concurrent process with appropriate guardrails. Thank you. >> Thank you. That was it in the public comments, correct? And we don't normally comment, but I'll

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just run through so those who took the time to come here understand, you know, as I indicated, we don't discuss the items tonight. Um, but generally um you know, our staff hears these things and

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um we get a report through the town manager's office. So, uh, I, uh, you know, my deepest, uh, sympathies to the residents that spoke about the cat health issues. Uh, I thought that had

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gone in a better direction some time ago. So hearing the update, we'll get an update from uh our staff through our town manager and see what if anything can be done uh regarding the comment about our

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property acquisition on Delaware and decryby population. I'm sure our staff will follow up on that item. um regarding the comment observation with regard to the

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uh lighting um on Indian Town uh coming out of Sinquiz Park area for our fire department. We'll get a report I'm sure on that if what if anything can be done about that. And then in the last

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items, uh the fact that councelor Sunstrom is not here doesn't disadvantage you in any way because we wouldn't be talking about it tonight. Uh and I would expect um there are um there's no one thing that always works.

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So, uh, I' I'd ask, uh, through our town manager to, uh, uh, you know, respond back to us individually and, um, then if we're so inclined, we would pursue some either a policy change or a one-time

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change or whatever. But again, I leave that to the town manager to get back with us on. And, uh, so with that, uh, I move on. council. Uh we have before us the minutes of the May 5th meeting and

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there's minor corrections on the dis. If there's no other corrections, I'd take a motion and a second to approve the minutes as amended. >> I'll make a motion that we accept the minutes of May 5th, 2026 with the exception of page 7 under Mayor Kitky's.

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Um there is minor change. >> I'll second. >> Motion to second. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. >> Motion carries unanimously. Moving on to the consent agenda. Is there any member of the public that wish to pull a consent agenda item?

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>> No sir. >> Any member on the dis wish to pull a consent agenda item? >> Yes. I'd like to pull 8 9 10 12 and 14. >> 8 9 10

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>> 12 and 14. Okay. Um, any other item? >> Eight and 11. >> Any other item to be pulled? >> No, not on my part. >> So much for consent. Um,

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I'll take a motion in a second to approve an amended consent agenda consisting of items 6, 7, and 13. >> So moved as amended. >> Second

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>> motion in a second. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. >> Motion carries. Uh, that that was unanimous. >> Well, yeah. One question of item six was postponed. >> Yes. >> Okay. All right. >> That's on the uh amended agenda.

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>> So yes. >> Okay. Moving on to item eight. First item pulled. I think it was uh going to be pulled by two members of the council. What I'll go first go to councelor Kiser. You have any questions or

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>> Yeah, I have a couple questions. staff and also leadership here tonight. >> Sure. >> My mic is on now. Thank you. I had a couple questions of staff and also for the soul leadership if they're here tonight. Uh first, u

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the eloul strategic facility plan identified issues with the building. For example, needs painting. Windows need to be caught to prevent water intrusion. Stuckle needs repaired. Roof needs minor repair and the front door replaced. If the third amendment is approved by the

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town council, will the town building engineering department conduct an inspection of the building to verify whether or not these uh conditions are valid? >> Yes, they will. >> So, that is the plan. >> Yes. >> Okay. And the second questions, if

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they're found to be valid, will the town develop a plan with cost to make these repairs and present this to council for consideration, obviously with appropriation at a later date, hopefully before the end of the year, maybe. >> It's likely that as with any capital

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improvement plans that those would be part of the capital improvement project and subject council's approval and appropriation. >> Okay. So that we'd include some type of CIP then for it. Okay. >> Yes. >> All right. And my questions to Elil. >> Hi

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>> Whitback, right? >> Suzanne. Yes, >> Suzanne. >> Whitbeck. >> Um, can you just give me a brief summary of the benefits brings to the community? For example, volunteer hours recorded per year. How many adults participating in the adult program has received their GE GED? Was your annual staff salaries?

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If you could just address those. I'm looking for the overall benefit for Elsold to the community. >> Um, sure. Yes. Good evening. and um thank you for allowing us the opportunity to be here. Um we've been here for 20 years.

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We have um taken care of the day labor uh market that existed uh mainly on center street in streets of Jupiter but mainly concentrated on center street. And um those of you who were here before

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Elsopen will remember that it was a situation of of total of chaos for everybody involved, the residents in the area, uh the workers themselves. Uh there was loitering, there was um

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traffic issues, traffic flow issues, people were it was intimidating to walk down the street with a couple hundred people walking there. Um so that has been the number one um solution that we have that Elsoul has brought to the town of Jupiter. The town

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um council was a big part of it. Uh we like to say that we um are a true example of how a community can come together because the town council was receiving so many complaints about this and um instead of ignoring and pretending that this wasn't happen because it was happening all over the

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country um this community came together government the the school FA um FAU the uh houses of worship the different faiths the citizens residents and the workers themselves And the solution that

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came to be was Elsa. As far as um numbers, put my glasses on. I can tell you that in um 2025 for the calendar year, we facilitated 10,499

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job placements. That means that um employers came in and hired day labors for 10,499 different jobs generating just through those jobs over a million $1.2 million

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in in income for labors that turn turns around and comes into Jupiter. um nationwide studies estimate that more than between 82% of money that day labors um earn comes back to their local communities in the forms of rent,

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utilities, they have to buy food, they have to buy, you know, shoes for their kids if they have kids. You know, it's money that comes back. Um these laborers were picked up by 1,625 unduplicated employers. So, homeowners

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and business owners came in to pick up um in 2025 it was a total of 625 unduplicated workers who were picked up to do these jobs. Okay. Now, day laborers don't get all

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their work from a day labor hall. They might come in once a week. They might come in three times a week. They might come in only on Saturdays because they have other jobs lined up. So the income that is that their work represents is not this number that I'm giving you is not for it's just what comes out from

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Jupiter I mean from the El Soul labor program if that makes sense. Um as far as um education we have I just have by the way the we just finished printing it with Michelle

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back here. Thank you. The first quarter we've summarized it. It's going to be a lot um easier for you all to read. You'll have it tomorrow morning. But for 2025, I can tell you that in um adult educa, we operate in six areas of focus. So, labor being the core of what we do.

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In adult education, last year we had a total of uh um 106 students in the spring semester and 128 in the fall just for the English portion of of the program. and um

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for our GED prep and and students coming in to to learn how to read and write. These are adults. These are much smaller groups. We had so 21 certificates issued um for for for adult students learning how to to like I say read and write or

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finishing primary, finishing secondary, getting their GED. Um we also have programs in vocational training. We have um students getting um their their KTP. Um we had an unduplicated participation in our worker development program. Uh

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last year of 343 workers that came in to do workshops to learn how to paint a wall. Um we I'm going through this. We had 14 uh students get their serve safe food handler which is of course is nationwide. And we had a total of 32

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students participating in sewing. Um these are skills that they can take with them and help them earn a living. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Um this is very very >> I think you pretty well covered a lot of the benefits.

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>> I mean I could go on you see tell you with staff real quickly. We have a total of 13 full-time staff members and um between 12 and 14 part-time staff members who who um it that changes based on our nighttime classes.

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>> Mhm. And what's their annual salary? >> Um this year it's budgeted just around $1 million. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. It's fairly significant. So, and one last question. If your uh lease amendment is not approved, what is the impact on your ability to raise funds, operating funds? I know you look at grants and private

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donations, stuff like that. >> Absolutely. Our budget for this year is um our cash budget is just about $1.8 million and about 1 million come is budgeted to come from grants. >> We will not be able to write a grant and

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ask for funding without a lease. Nobody's going to give you money to if you don't have a place to to to you know to give your programs. The rest of the funding comes from private foundations um many who are local and they also even though we don't have to write a grant

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they also want to know um that that we have a solid you know a place to be able to perform >> okay >> our what we're doing >> all right thank you >> so it would have a significant impact >> I appreciate Thank you. Thank you. >> And I believe you uh counselor. >> Yeah, Suzanne, nice to see you tonight.

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Um just want to start by saying I've always appreciated what else brought to the community at the problem that it's cleaned up over in Center Street and all that. Um but I I I remember I think it was around the time we renewed the last lease that council was, you know, sort of nudging folks like maybe it's it's

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not a permanent location to move on. Have you guys looked into any other locations or >> on that? >> We have. we um have gotten the message that the the town's needs are changing and that the space is going to be needed. Um the real estate market in

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Jupiter is impossible right now. It's very difficult. We have started looking. We've looked at um a couple places. Um one property which would be beautiful, perfect, is over $4 million, which first thing we would need to do is raise the money for it. And it's located um in

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what's a residential area. So there's many factors, many challenges that we're facing with trying to relocate, but we understand that, you know, that this is what you all are looking for us. But, you know, traffic flow issues um for the morning labor when when drivers are

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coming in with their trailers and everything. You can't just do that. And >> I I understand. Yeah. But my >> but we have we have started looking. >> I don't have a problem with renewing the lease. It's just that the five years I think it was a bit long. I was more in favor of a two over three with options but um I don't know if I can

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>> if I may we need time >> I understand >> to raise the money and to find this >> okay have you raised any money >> we just um allocated a um a capital reserve fund but it's not even a million

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dollars yet >> okay >> so we've got a way to go >> okay >> again it's >> but you're but you're in the process of so you've got a million dollars put aside Not quite yet, but yes. >> Okay. >> And we're also in a process we we have to do programmatic strategic planning

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>> which will also influence our space needs. Right. So >> Okay. Wonderful. Thank you. >> So that's the time I'm looking for. >> Thank you. >> I understand that we have uh four members of the public that wish to speak if in fact this item was pulled.

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>> Yes sir. >> Can we >> Our first speaker is Suzanne Whitbeck. Oh, >> I pretty much was going to give you some numbers. So, I think the only thing I would like to add to that is that um

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we're not we like I said, we understand that 20 year 20 years ago when we came together to solve this problem, Jupiter was a different Jupiter. Okay, so we understand that. So, we're asking for this runway, but we also Jupiter was

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very unique in how Jupiter solved this problem. Okay? It was a path that was thoughtful. It was collaborative and it was very much our own. I can't tell you how many calls I get from other municipalities. Is there an El Soul here? Can you come please open an El? We're like, no, we're we're we're

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Jupiter. This is what we do. So I am asking that we we honor that that you allow us to continue um down this path and that we work together. You know we we're celebrating 20 years. Let's continue this collaboration and looking forward.

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>> But but you are making this moving forward with steps to >> yes >> put money aside. So down the road >> move on to your own place. So okay because this is a public campus the land's valuable. The town may need it for >> services obviously. So you you know all this. I'm just for the record, you want

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to get that out there. So >> yeah, I understand. >> Okay. Thank you. >> So thank you. >> Thank you. >> Our next two speakers are PJ Willis followed by Craig Scarado. >> Good evening. My name is PJ Willis. I'm the current uh chair of Elsoul. So thank

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you for having us tonight. Um I'm here to share 20 years ago, you know, history of Jupiter, you know, been defined by a commitment of our, you know, of our neighbors. It's a story of a community organization growing intentionally, logically, and naturally alongside the

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residents we serve. 20 years ago, Els opened its doors with a singular vital focus. Provide a safe, organized, and dignified employment exchange for labors. But communities are living, needs evolve. You know, over the last

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two decades, we've closely, you know, we worked closely with the workers. We've quickly realized that to truly support a laborer, we have to help them grow. Our services did not expand by coincidence. Every single program we added grew

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organically from an unmet need, voiced by the residents of Jupiter who walk through their front doors. Our initial labor program naturally evolved into advancing worker development to help workers improve their skills, earn better wages. We

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intro from there we introduced specialized programs sewing classes computer training in-house workshops as Suzanne mentioned serve safe where those that want to have a career in the restaurant industry have the ability to get their certification. Next came

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language as we improved the ability for the residents to communicate. Their ability to communicate also meant that they could integrate safely within the community. This created our English and Spanish literacy classes of all all of which is available to residents of Jupiter. A

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resident of Jupiter can come to El Soul and learn how to speak Spanish. Next came the kids, right? We want to take care of the children as a community. You know, as parents work hard to build better life for themselves, you know, we wanted to help and needed to help the kids integrate better into our school systems that

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we're doing. You know, kids that weren't able to keep up with the classes are now able to keep up with the classes. You know, we offer tutoring programs 4 days a week for kids after school within the community we serve. Finally, we address basic dignity. You know, the ability to work uh requires a

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full stomach. The ability to study requires a full stomach. Through our uh collaboration with Cross Ministries, we offer a food pantry, you know, two days a week to provide those within the community that are food insecure access to those needs. also available to the

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town of Jupiter. So, while we understand the town is looking for us to find a new home, you know, as Suzanne mentioned, Jupiter is extremely difficult place to find properties. It's not going to cost a million. It's not going to cost $2

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million. It could cost $5 million. It could cost $10 million based off of who we're competing with in the rest of this country. So we would we would uh prefer a longer lease so that way we have the runway we needed and it also takes the stress off the staff. You know as

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Suzanne mentioned we do employ quite a few people that also live in this community and the last two years have created an amount a large amount of stress for not only our donors the employee the employers or the laborers that we work with as well as as the

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employees themselves. So, thank you for your time. >> Our next speaker is Craig Scarado. >> Good evening, council mayor. Um, I want to represent the practical side of El Soul. I'm a resident of Jupiter,

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uh, 18319 Oakleaf Drive, uh, for 36 years. I when I first moved in was part of that center street hustle looking for people to help me maintain my yard, help me

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paint my house, do those type of things. Um, I've had very successful businesses in Palm Beach County hosting Kravis Center, City Place, the Fairgrounds, Food and Beverage, and very formidable kitchen cabinet business, uh, doing

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kitchens in thousands of homes here in Jupiter. So my story is that in those first days when I was needing labor to help, I went to Center Street and it was a shuffle.

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Then when El Soul came about, I had an avenue. I had a safe avenue. I had names. I had representation. I was able to identify what their skills were and use those skills

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and I was a actually able to help those people move on in their life. Uh helping them get their naturalization, helping them learn a language and helping them become mainstream at

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the same time. They were helping me both in my personal side and the business side. I currently have an employee who is naturalized from Cuba a few months ago and he's learning English so that I

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don't have to use Google Translate to help him along. So back from the beginning of Elsoul till now, it is an incredible organization that supports this community in ways

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that our children and our culture has changed and the other cultures that have arrived here in Jupiter are fulfilling those needs. So I think it's imperative and important

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that we preserve a space for El Soul that they have a place to continue this effort and help mainstream the people that participate there. So with that, thank you very much for the

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consideration. Uh, Mayor Gretzky, my wife Jan, the swim instructor, said to say hello. >> Thank you. >> Our last speaker is Kathleen Wadd. Good evening. My name is Kathleen Wadell

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and I live at 6502 Winding Lake Drive, Jupiter, Florida for over 33 years. I want to speak in support of El Soul and the Jupiter Resource Center. In 2024, there were over 352 active community

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volunteers who contributed over 9600 hours. Since 2012, I understand there were over 900 v individuals who reached out to volunteer in a variety of programs.

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In 2016, after retiring from the US Army and then from the VA medical center, I like many volunteers looked for place to be productive and to be able to use my talents and experience. Volunteering

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supports physical and mental health. Working with others, giving back to our community, providing purpose in our lives, enhances well-being by opening up networks that increase socializations for those of us that are aging.

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Activities of gardening and assisting with foods prep and service allows gentle exercises and positive positive interactions with clients, workers, and staff. Elso provides available worker clients

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to assist with difficult task that need to be accomplished in our homes, whether it's cleaning, gardening, or assisting with hurricane shutters or helping with family members. I am grateful for what Elsoul has

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provided me and our community. Elsoul is a gem in Palm Beach County. As an aside, I understand there are stories of employers who come from Miami or Port St. Lucy to pick up willing and

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well-trained workers. I strongly encourage you to consider the value L soul provides to your community campus. The impact depends on El Soul. Many of

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many of our the positive impact on the Jupiter community depends on El Soul for their purpose in life, their positive activities, mental health during our aging years. I encourage you to extend

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the lease as long as you can. I want it to be extended until I finally retire. Thank you. >> That was it on public comments. >> Yes, sir. >> Yeah. I just um I'll go ahead and start up here to comment. Um so I'm very

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familiar with Elsoul. I'm grateful for um the volunteers, the organization, the volunteers that have volunteered there over many years. Uh I'm grateful for the widespread public support that provides funding and

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grants that has kept it going. Um I u I I certainly don't want to take a step backwards. I'm grateful that um in our package on page 9 and 10

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um it was very thoroughly done by El Soul providing they looked at strategic options and it's extremely challenging um in not only this market but in this country at this point in time to pursue anything else.

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Um I recall uh how often the town has leveraged the existence of El Soul to reach out to part of the community that we had no other way to reach out to and educate about different

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matters and what have you. And it's my recollection that our neighborhoods department uh who has always worked closely with El Soul in fact had asked during I think it was CO or whatever for cross ministries to be located there

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um basically to provide food source during those difficult times. So it might have been before then. So and you know that's the partnership that has gone back and forth. So it exists to this day because my recollection is town actually asked for it to be put there

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and bingo. Um the lease that we have before us which I support um has a termination provision which um has existed in prior the prior lease is just a repeat. It's a five-year term and

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um Elsoul can serve notice within 30 days if they decide they wanted to move elsewhere and uh the town has uh would need to provide at least 6 months advanced notice. So we have provisions there if something were to come up that

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we needed to take some action. Uh 6 months is certainly uh an easy enough time that we could deal with that. So, I don't see a reason to shorten a lease. I support it as it was presented. I don't know where we'll stand on the dis. I know I heard one for a shorter lease.

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And if I need to, I'll pass to Gavl to make a motion. >> I'd like to make a motion unless there's any comments >> for the town to enter into a 5-year lease with Elsoul for the property at 106 Military Trail >> as presented. >> As presented. Yes.

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>> I'll second that. My questions were answered. It's fine. >> Okay. Okay. I did have comments. >> Oh, >> I'm sorry. It's okay. >> I first of all, I want to thank Elol. Your generosity to the community with volunteer hours,

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all of you, it is so appreciated. Elol is an economic search engine. There is no question. Your laborers bring their income back into Jupiter. I do support a renewal of a lease of 5 years, but I

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don't app I do don't support extending it. I think I would like to just see a 5-year lease with no extensions. Um, and this I think should give sufficient time to work on your reserve funding. Real

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estate is very difficult. I appreciate that and I understand that. But at some point in time going to have to spread those wings and figure out if there is an opportunity. Um and hopefully some opportunity is going to come along.

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20 years you've done an amazing amount of um goodwill to the community. I've been here for almost 30. So, I watched what you did, how you did it, how the town got involved, how the ministries got involved um in all of the services

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that you provide. Again, I support a 5-year lease. I do not support extending um lease renewals. >> I think the the motion and the second on the floor is to uh approve the lease as presented. >> So, I'll first correct. Yeah.

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>> So, I'll I'll call a vote on the motion as presented. Uh all in favor signify by saying I. I >> I opposed. >> Opposed. >> Motion carries 3 to one with the vice mayor dissenting. Okay. Um

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thank you. Um I'll move on to item number nine. Uh this item was pulled by councelor Gisinger. Yeah, I pulled nine and 11 because they're fairly similar contracts for consulting services. So, the questions I have to ask uh for director of

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engineering pertain to both. So, hopefully it'll expedite some of the Q&A portion of this. So, if if you would, I'd like to start out with director Zama. Uh would you please review the selection criteria that the town used for these consultants for both agenda items eight, I mean, excuse me, agenda

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items 10 and 11? Yeah, sure. Um, for the record, George Zama, engineering, director of engineering and public works. Um, so both of these contracts are similar. They're just uh different scope of services um as was mentioned. Um, so um

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the contracts are um were procured under the Florida statute 287.055, the consultants competitive negotiations act or CCNA. Um and uh these contracts

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uh for design um must be selected based on qualifications and um there are provisions within this um statute um for streamlining projects because these projects must be um selected based on

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qualifications which requires um sub submitted bids selection committees to review the qualifications. It could be an extended process. So we present these item these um continuing services contracts to to select on um

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based on a a bulk of scope of services um with specific selection criteria as was asked. The selection criteria were professional qualifications, past relevant project performance, uh project approach, the firm's internal quality

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assurance and quality control uh practices, uh location, and there are um uh provisions within the statutes that um specify scoring for um small business enterprises, minority business

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enterprise, and um diversity business enterprises. So um the scoring um selection criteria this the qualifications were based on the criteria uh we had uh multiple firms submit for both um and the selection

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committee met scored uh based on this criteria and we took the average scoring to rank the firms. So if I understand that correctly cost is not considered as by Florida statute. So that's correct. So for selecting firms so >> for the selection

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>> for specific projects um you select a single firm >> and um um the highest qualified uh firm that's ranked um you enter into negotiations for a price for the project and um so they're subject to

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negotiation. Um if you can't if prices are too high, you can't reach an agreement, um you must move on to the second firm and enter into negotiations and you cannot go back to the first firm. Um so um you must move down the

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line of your ranking order. Um in this case, we're allowed to uh we the contract is structured so we select a pool of of consultants based on their qualifications. For each project, a work order will be issued um with uh with uh

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based on um negotiated prices which are the fee schedules that are established within the contract as well as hours for each task of the proposed project. Okay. And the last one, this was more or less on agenda item 10, which was the

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architect and building envelope continuing services. Um, could you explain to what the bees score is and why they weren't scored? I believe it's CSI construction moisture consulting received a BES score and from all three

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selection committee members as opposed to a numerical score. Yeah, absolutely. So this uh contract was bid with architecture. Um there was a list of of scope of services as well as uh we allowed for um building envelope

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consultants um which is a specialized industry to submit um because it is uh intertwined in building design. Um so we wanted to give opportunity for those types of consultants uh to submit uh a bid. We do, the town does have a need

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for a specialized consultant for both design and um analysis of our existing structures. Um so we had one consultant that selected as a standalone building envelope services consultant and they were the um they were the only firm. So

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we selected them just based solely for building envelope services. >> All right. And my last question relative to resolution 32-26, is it the plan to remove two of the

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contractors from that resolution? >> Uh, yes. If there are no other questions, um, which I'd be happy to answer if there are >> Well, let's go to the questions first and you address that later. >> Absolutely. >> I think my question is geared to what you're asking.

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>> Okay. Um so uh staff would like to recommend um the removal of two consultants from resolution 32-26 uh one of which uh Craig A. Smith and Associates due to a conflict of interest

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and uh the other is Kimley Horn uh due to uh failure you know failure to reach an agreement for their fee schedule. Um the town did set a maximum multiplier um which is um uh it's a rate that is

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established by firms that is over their unbburdened um uh uh internal labor rates and um they uh Kimley Horn actually exceeded our threshold required in the contract um and for equity of

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other firms that that um several of the firms met the maximum of three. Um, unfortunately, Kimley Horn and the town could not reach an agreement. So, staff recommends the removal of uh

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Craig A. Smith and Kimley Horn from uh resolution 32-26 and to not award the contracts. I'll take a motion and a second to approve resolution 3226 awarding uh to uh two firms Co Pepper and

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Tarponing in Calvin Gardano and Associates well in actually >> there's three >> there's three in uh Chen Moore and Associates. >> I'll make a motion to approve. >> Second. >> Motion to second. All in favor signify by saying I.

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>> I. >> I. Motion carries unanimously. Moving on to resolution 4626, which I believe has been your questions been answered. I'll take a motion on that. >> I make a motion to approve resolution 46-26.

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>> Second. >> Motion a second. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. Motion carries unanimously. I believe you also pulled uh Did you pull 11? >> I pulled 11.

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I had a question for staff. Just real quick, this um this this grant, how much is is this involved? Because we discussed the seaw wall and sawfish, is this part of that? >> No. No. This is a separate grant. We submitted the town submitted

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for two grants. One for the seaw wall >> Okay. redeeming project as well as the flushing um covert. And then this is a second grant that the first grant that you're asking about was for 50/50 match for construction. This grant is a 100%

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grant for the bay itself. >> Just for the bay itself, it's going to be a study and Okay. Cuz I didn't see anything mentioned about the wall. The wall's all set. Correct. >> No, the wall we will be we did not get an award for the seaw wall. We will be submitting again. We um had a meeting

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with FD on what we can do better and so we'll position ourselves um this coming up September for resubmitt. >> What heavy requirements did they want for that for the wall? >> Um for the wall they wanted to make sure that it was more naturebased and not

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maintenance. >> Oh, okay. And we can meet that. >> Yeah. Well, we're doing we're the plan is to incorporate living living um shoreline, >> right? to harden it as well as provide providing the seaw wall redeeming work

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that um we're working with engineering on. >> Okay. So somehow the uh I know it's off this subject but somehow the living shorelines integrated into the wall at some point. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Okay. Yes. >> Interesting. Okay. That was it. Thank you. >> Take a motion and a second on approving

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resolution 5326. >> So moved. >> Second. >> Motion second. All in favor signify by saying I. I >> I the motion carries unanimously. Uh moving on to resolution 5626. I think

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councelor Gisinger pulled that one. >> 5426. I'm sorry. Yep. >> Yeah. Support that interal agreement. I think it's a great opportunity for our fire personnel to work alongside the the Palm Beach Gardens fire personnel. I had just a question and uh how does that

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work from an ILS standpoint? How does Jupiter Fire Rescue participate in a ride along, you know, work with Palm Beach Gardens? Are they stationed with them overnight? Do they show up during the morning and just have an 8 or 12 hour shift? I just curious how that whole system works. So, well, first of

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all, Steve Shaw, Deputy Fire Chief Operations, Jupiter Fire Rescue. First of all, thank you for asking the question. I'd love to come up here and have an opportunity to kind of just expand upon uh what we're doing, especially from the training aspect uh that we got coming up. It's so exciting. So, first of all, let me just start by celebrating our relationship with Palm

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Beach Gardens. They have been an absolutely phenomenal partner since I've been here for 2 years and since Chief Donado has been here, even before we got here, they've just been phenomenal. Uh, even now when we're meeting together in terms of talking tactics and strategies and just how they run their day-to-day

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operations and whatnot. Um, just that relationship is stellar. So, we already have the ILA for training established and as you know uh during our training program coming up uh over the summertime. Uh we're going to be uh doing a lot of training using some of their facilities. Um and uh it's already

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in our our our calendar at this point. An expansion of that is this ride along program which gives us the ability to take a new firefighter and allow them to ride along somewhat similar to an EMT or a paramedic student where uh would do on their units to get a sense of the cadence of calls, how they respond to

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incidents, that tempo, uh how they respond on the radio, how they respond and operate their protocols and procedures and whatnot. Um for us, we just wanted to incorporate this inside the program if we wanted to use that. Uh you got to remember also that we're hiring a lot of people that are fresh

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out of school. They've never been uh uh into a fire department before, so they've never um experienced that shift culture. They're going to get a load of training from us and they're going to have a load of amazing opportunities to learn from some fantastic individuals, many of which you saw already here today. But we are not running calls as

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you know until October 1st. So, we thought this was a wonderful idea to have that ability to add along to the ILA to allow them to ride along with our partners in public gardens to get a glimpse of what that looks like in addition to their training program. So, the details of which could be uh during the daytime, during the evening time,

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there's a a variety of ways it could work. We just wanted to make sure that was part of this to get that opportunity if and when we needed to uh during the course of the training program. >> My main interest was >> my main interest was exactly how does that work? and we say hey you're going to be assigned at Palm Beach Gardens for

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the day. You'll show up at 6:00 in the morning and work through 6:00 or whatever. So, and do a ride along. So, observational type training. So, >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. >> That's the way it works. Okay. >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. >> All right. >> Have no further questions. >> I just want to comment about that. First of all,

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call me a naive optimist, but I still hope that the county uh allows us to do calls before September 30th. uh we won't give up until September 30th on that ask. Uh secondly, um you know, I remember

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Admiral's Cove, who's a gated community who keeps records on who provides service, told us that the Gardens makes after calls to Admiral's Cove. So, I was always delighted with this opportunity

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that you've you've pursued here for our own firefighters to go. In fact, if they were at that station that serves, you know, Admiral's Cove, well, they'd be even going into Jupiter. How great could that be? Not just a ride along, but but

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within our very community. So, thank you for pursuing that. >> I'll take a motion in a second uh to approve 5426. >> I'll make a motion to approve uh resolution 54-26. >> Second. >> Motion and second. All in favor signify

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by saying I. >> I. Motion carries unanimously. And then last of all, item 14, I think, pulled by >> Yeah, it was pulled by me. So, >> come on up, George. >> We're the only ones left. Uh,

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a couple questions on that. Um, we had four firms that we approved and and determined to be qualified, but only one chose to bid. Do we understand why we out three of them refused to bid this contract?

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Uh we had a tight timeline to get this project completed. Um our timeline is two months. Um as you heard uh chief earlier um the time is rapidly approaching for their operations to begin. Um so we have a pretty tight

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timeline. Um several of them um did not wish to pursue the project. Um so um we uh received the the price uh proposal from this firm um which is one of the selected contractors for this was for

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the three buildings we had building A, B and C and B and C are completed. >> Okay. What was the logic r went into how do we determine does is parson a low bid for this project? What information did

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you use in order to determine since the other three did not apply? So were you using now sole source one one contractor? So so they are considered the lowest responsive responsible bidder because they were the only ones that submitted um based on this specific request for

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proposal within this contract. >> So we've done business with them before. We understand their pricing. We think they're reasonable from a this is $477,000. Yeah, we actually um requested a proposal from another contractor on uh

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from another contract, our general our general contracting continuing um construction contract and um the prices were um within reach within 5%. So um you know we you know we vetted them and

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the the pricing is is pretty accurate. >> Okay. All right. And the last question, um, as you know, we're we're in the process of purchasing a new facility at new commercial office building at 3126

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Jupiter Park Drive. Um, could you just go through why these renovations are important for building A over at the public works and um and may not be suitable for putting anything else over like fire department logistics. Leave

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them at building A. Uh well, we've uh established a presence for fire rescue at the uh maintenance facility. Um this was the part of the original plan. They were actually supposed to be in building B. Um originally we've we've changed the scope

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around a little bit, but um we move public it was we felt um organizationally it was best for public works to move into building B and we can uh put our efforts into um renovating building A uh for fire. This is to serve

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the fire rescue logistics um to store their PPE and other uh pertinent uh equipment and supplies. Uh staff members will be there uh for for their operations. And um you know they already have a

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facility on site as well for their uh larger equipment. Um so um this is just um you know what we it was part of the strategic planning efforts um to um put the logistics at this location. >> Yeah, maybe the chief can answer. It's

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understood. It's also potentially a safety and security um to have it at building a particularly if you're storing tanks and stuff of that nature there. >> Yes sir. There will be compressed gas cylinders uh and other equipment that's

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you know very necessary to be very secure uh especially uh in our medical equipment storage. So yes sir. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you. >> Also the security aspect that uh uh we alluded to was also at the public

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workshard if you've been out there which I think you have. Uh also there the they they have the fenced in areas out there along with gated you have to have a code to get in a gate in the evening. Uh so the security is is optimized by being in

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that location instead of the new facility at this time. >> Okay. Mayor, I have no further comments. >> I'll take a motion in a second on approving resolution 6326. >> I'll make a motion to approve 63-26. >> Second. >> Motion second. All in favor signify by

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saying I. >> I. >> I. Motion carries unanimously. Moving on to reports. Town attorney. >> I have no uh real report. I did want to ask council if it wanted me to consider a

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public nuisance aspect with respect to that house that's being maintained in a way that is obviously offending an entire neighborhood. If that's something that you would like me to explore, we'll be happy to do that. >> I would say absolutely. Some of my

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colleagues may not realize how long that's gone on, but it's been going on for a long time. >> So, this is nothing new then. Okay. >> Mayor, is this the same house? I thought that that had the cat issue a couple years ago. >> Well, I'm not exactly sure, but it sure sounded like it

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>> because I thought that was in POS, but I might be mistaken. >> Mayor, if I could um a couple of things. I'm glad to hear the town attorney bring that up because I was having some conversation with our deputy chief. We're going to we have a timeline of all the things that we've gone and done over this period of time. Yes, this is the

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house neighborhood that you're thinking of. >> We started to make some progress. We were not able to uh to get >> to the final conclusion that we wanted to there. Um it is a pretty frustrating process for people that live there,

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>> right? and for those involved. So, we do have on our uh on our list to get the timeline done. Um make sure we know where we are with things meet we have standing meeting with the town attorney on Friday mornings and to pursue that

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public nuisance um avenue. I think that's probably one of the last avenues we have left. Is that right, Deputy Chief? >> Yep. I think it's one of the last. >> Just a question. Can you not go with the public health this I mean feral cat cats that are

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>> they've been there. >> Yeah. >> We we we've been doing this. >> Mhm. >> It's it's really just remarkable. >> Sounds terrible. >> Yep. >> Well, okay. Yeah. I'm in favor of that. So,

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>> so the answer was yes unanimously. Thank you. >> Uh town manager. >> Yes. Thank you, mayor. So, um I was going to start out with that cat situation and um and so that I've given you that update. Um just a couple of

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things from public uh comments tonight. Um we'll be following up on the issues that were brought forward, but I did want to speak just briefly about the banyan tree at the Sinquest Fire Station. that tree

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has been a priority for us and um and we have been monitoring and watching and doing everything that we need to do and that tree is in good shape with no issues and so um we'll continue to do that as well. I'll we'll look at that

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that uh flashing signal and see if there's something that can be done there. Also on the items that Mr. Rendina bought forward. Um I am working with the planning and zoning director. We're drafting a response. Um I could

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share some of the draft with you um until we get to the final um work uh after we get to the final product. So I'll I'll send the draft over to you and you can take a look at it. So and then um a couple of other things. Yesterday

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the town's um we continued with the town infrastructure project um and this next portion is um fixing sidewalks and repaving roads in Egret's landing and we've already started that as construction crews started staging

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equipment. The project there is focused on replacing sidewalks damaged by tree roots and milling and overlaying the roads throughout the neighborhood. We're coordinating with the HOA and um and the town with the help of the Eager Landing property manager will actively engage

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the residents throughout the project and we'll provide weekly updates to residents through emails and flyers and obviously use our website to get that information out. It's going to be um a bit chaotic for them for a short period of time, but I think the end product

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will be well worth it. And just a couple of quick events for this week. First of all, on Monday, May 25th, at 9:00 a.m., the town will host its annual Memorial Day ceremony at the Veterans Memorial in front of Town Hall. And then, uh, believe it or not, coming up Monday,

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June 1st at 10:00 a.m., uh, the town will host a ceremony in which our 90 operational firefighters will take the oath of office. The historic event will take place at the Maltz Theater. And, um, I was just working this afternoon. We spent a few hours putting the

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finishing touches on that. That's going to be quite remarkable. And then on Wednesday, June 3rd at 11:00 a.m., the town will host the uncoupling and pushing ceremony for the JFRD JFRD station number 10 located at Piatt

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Place. And um this is these are like traditional ribbon cutting ceremonies for new fire stations. As you participate in the ceremony, we'll we'll be explaining what all of it means and how it does it. It's actually it's actually really very interesting. And then finally on Thursday, June 4th, the

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town will hold the uncoupling and pushing ceremony for JFR sta JFRD station number 12 located adjacent to Sinquest Park. Um on the June 1st date, um we will have hired our fire

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department and we'll have it all set and ready to go. They're putting they're continuing down the final phases of training and we will deliver it. We will have delivered it 5 months early and on budget. And that's my report. Mayor,

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>> thank you. Uh, >> Vice Mayor, >> I want to say thank you. I really appreciate the citizens comments when they come in. Everyone has been productive, polite, respectful, and so much can get accomplished when

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they come and talk to us. I appreciate hearing the immediate feedback on both sides of this dis. Um I do wish Elsoul so much success. I would maybe a a little bit tougher on the lease

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negotiation. However, I really do believe that they can make it happen. um real estate is it it it's tough but what they do in Elsoul I personally appreciate um their services and again I

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do refer to them as an economic search engine. They do bring um wealth into the community whether we think it it's a huge amount or not. Um but I want to thank all of our fire staff. It was great. We had a lot of fun yesterday

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meeting as many as we could. Um, and again, I don't know what what did you say, counselor Gisinger, it was a minute and a half for each one. I don't know. >> He's got it down, but it was great. Um, and I'm I'm looking forward to all of the collaboration with our fire and our

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police department. Thank you. >> I'll just kind of piggy back on your elo comments. The um they've added an invaluable service to the town. Uh they cleaned up the mess on Center Street years ago. you know, it was something that the federal government issue with immigration screwed up. We had to kind

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of clean it up locally. So, um but we did start nudging them that they needed to move on at some point and I I understand the market. So, I just wanted, you know, um on get them on um uh on the public record that they are trying they're putting money aside. So, at some point, and we always have, like

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the mayor mentioned, we have the out clause. We we can terminate the clause at any point, but you know, not too much pressure on them, but a little bit, but you know, enough. But, I I think they can get there. So, we we'll see how it goes. But they they've been a great service to the town and just a nice surprise tonight. Uh Chief Donado having

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all the the what is it 30 36 frontline leaders in here tonight. That was just a pleasant surprise. So, it's coming together and it's coming in quick. So, keep it going. That's it. >> Councelor Gosinger. >> Yeah. Um relative to the 36 new fire

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department personnel, I had the privilege of having lunch with them today. It was phenomenal. I also send a called up Stacy to thank her for inviting me to attend that. And on the way home and on the afternoon, I I thought about this a lot and I should have probably read it, but I went ahead

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and wrote out my remarks relative to those 36 individuals. And I'm going to go ahead and read it if you don't mind and get it into the record, but I would like to congratulate the 36 fire department personnel, the new fire department personnel who recently joined the town of Jupiter. I recently had the privilege of meeting with each of the 12

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captains, 12 lieutenants, 12 driver engineers over lunch and was truly impressed by their exceptional quality of these firefighters and the tremendous amount of experience, professionalism, and enthusiasm they bring to both the town and to their profession. The addition of these talented men and

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women strengthen an already outstanding department uh and positions the town well into the future. Residents can feel confident knowing that they are served by highly skilled professors who are prepared to respond in times of emergency with courage, compassion, and expertise. On

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behalf of the community, I extend my sincere appreciation and warm welcome to each of these new members. We are fortunate to have them serving our town and look forward to the positive impact they'll undoubtedly have make in the years to come. So, I spent a lot of time out today. I was really impressed

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meeting these folks and have a chance to sit and talk to them. I enjoyed it a lot. So, and that's all I have. So, >> so I got just a few quick items. Number one, um, regarding citizen comments, uh, if you didn't already know this, uh, I

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always watch in the back of the room because when it's so many times when somebody gets done, I see a staff member go over ready to make contact either while they're still in the room or as they go out the door. So, this process really does work well. Um, I would say

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more because staff is so proactive than someone just speaking. So, I'm I'm grateful for that. Um, that doesn't go unnoticed up here. Secondly, with just regarded to the request of the last two people, uh uh you know, um reason I said

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it's up to staff to come back with us through the town manager is that I don't know the specifics and generally I think it comes to us anyway if the town manager believes it should come to us and uh and so you know I don't know

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really the specifics of the history on that but I do know one thing is We don't want staff to be working unnecessarily on something that we wouldn't approve, you know. So that's why, you know,

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keep that in mind. Whatever you wind up requesting, uh, because it is the case that if an upfront decision had to be made and we don't approve that, then staff would have been burning a lot of unnecessary hours. You know, I know I'm not telling

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you anything, Mr. Kitsro, that you don't already know. So, I just wouldn't have said that on the record here, right? Um, so, uh, any event, uh, then, um, I just want to make an a comment about consent agenda items. Um, and there's five of us

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up here and we can do what individually we want to do. And sometimes it's appropriate. I know some on the council will pull a consent agenda item to ask a question into the public record. And that's a good um that's a good effort.

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And I'm not I'm not singling out anybody here, but I would just ask as a general rule consent or items that staff believes there's a chance are just going to be voted in total. And I know we may be out of town or whatever, but I try to get questions

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ahead of time. And I'm not suggesting you can't call it up here, but I'm just saying we almost didn't have a consent agenda. And I just wanted to ask, you know, for the newer members, you may may not know that was the processes. We do try to get questions answered. If if

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they're to our satisfaction and we don't think it's pertinent to the rest of the council, then, you know, that might eliminate as many being pulled. But again, each one of us has that right to pull consent agenda items. Um, so then I

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just reminder, you know, next meeting, I didn't want to do it tonight with a member missing, but you know, we've all either should have completed our performance review with the town manager. And uh so next meeting we should expect to have conversation about

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very high level about that and then come to some determination on what we believe a annual compensation adjustment would be. So I'd ask everybody to kind of come in with some with that in mind. Um so we can coales about about something on

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that. And then just lastly and I'm going to make a pitch here. Um, and I'm going to specifically target the vice mayor only because on this item, uh, you asked questions in line before I even got to

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them. And this is on the non-adval fire attacks. You asked some questions, uh, that I thought were great. And then I followed up and if you recall, we learned that uh certain types of

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residential units uh the fee was not based on the same scope as as uh single family homes were. And uh so you that came out in the

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public record here. Um you asked it, I asked it and we learned that. And uh so I just did just did dig a little bit deeper and I just wanted to make sure and I'm bringing this up just so you all understand before the public starts coming out because there's a letter that's going to show up in your mailbox

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and then second meeting in June we're going to have public hearing about this. But I I'm even more opposed to the nonadvalum fire tax because I think it's in unequitable and unfair. And I just want to point out that so and again this

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came out from the first meeting. Single family homes, it's total square footage including air condition, garage, porches, entries, everything. Well, town homes and condominiums for some reason are different. And that was

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told to us. And some of this, again, I'm not finding fault with anybody here. You know, there's limitations that staff had with regard to what they could get from the property appraisers office. So, they had this had to be worked out. But let

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me just tell you, the town homes in Maui Creek that have garages and porches, it's not included in the assessment. So the town home owners in Mallalerie Creek are fortunate. They don't have a single family home because they'd pay a

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higher fee. The town homes in Greenwich in Aagoa. Likewise, I went and I pulled addresses and I looked what the fees are being charged for. You got a garage porch entry. You're not paying for that square footage. You're paying a lower

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fee than a single family home is. Oyola Woods. Ditto. um Tiara del Soul Condo Ditto um several of them I believe although it isn't finalized yet that uh uh

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Cornerstone condominium. So it it just is patently unfair that the council would assess a non-anvalorum assessment fee that treats some residential properties

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significantly different and charges them more. In addition to that, I have the issue about how it's a escalating fee on per square foot. But just fundamentally on this, I just wanted to make sure you all had the opportunity to think about this before

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the public hearing comes up because I'm going to be more and more vocal about this. I can't support an unfair fee, right? Where look, and I asked the question, and I knew I wouldn't get an answer from our fire departments uh outside of this meeting, and I want to put them on the spot. Is there any

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reason why a garage in a town home has no fire risk, but it does in a single family home? Well, no. How about a porch? No. You know, same thing in condos. No. You know, there's no reason for it. I'm just saying I'm answering that as an engineer, right? Um and so

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therein, you know, it's a disparity. Uh I don't get and um in fact, I would think a town home is greater risk in condo. First of all, they're elevated and closer together and whatever. And so separation you think would help, but uh but that's the way it was presented. And

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if we me remember we asked the question and the way this process works is we couldn't change anything when it came to us. It's take it or leave it. And so again, I'm not finding any fault of staff on this. It is what it is, but we

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can't change it. And that's why I'm going to continue to vote no. And if people show up here asking about the fee, I'm going to make sure they understand it's unfair. And I'm going to keep fighting opposing. you come back next year and make a fair one, right? But you can't you can't be inconsistent

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about it. And uh so with that, the time is now uh 9:08 and I'll adjourn the meeting.

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make every day to our health, safety, comfort, and quality of life. In witness thereof, I have here onto set my hand and seal this 19th day of May, 2026. Council and

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Thank you. >> Thank you, Chuck. >> Back back. >> Yeah. That would be cool. And now we um we have two presentations. Uh for the first presentation, I call up our fire chief and I don't want to steal

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your thunder, but we are excited for those that are joining us this evening. Thank you for having them here. Uh, thank you, Mayor, Council, those in the audience tonight, and those listening from home. I am beyond excited

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to introduce to you our new 36 frontline leaders. These are our captains, lieutenants, and driver engineers. These men and women represent the absolute best of the best. They are the architects of our

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reputation and the guardians of our culture. and we could not be more thrilled to have them. They've been with us now since May 11th, so a week and a few days uh as we've gotten to know them even better. Uh we are absolutely

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confident that we have selected the right people for Jupiter Fire Rescue. Um in this period of time, we've had some time together. Uh we've been working uh tirelessly on leadership topics including accountability, expectations,

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vision, mission, core behaviors, focused a lot on leadership. Uh we continue to also work with them on uh topics like policy process, our SOGS, uh but we're also getting them out into the community. Uh introducing them to uh

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some of the unique aspects of the town of Jupiter. uh spending some time with them and I know a few of you gotten to spend a little time with them at lunch and some of you have some of that coming. So, we just thank you so much uh for this opportunity to introduce them to you tonight. Uh we thank you for this

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opportunity for Jupiter Fire Rescue to serve this community. And I am telling you, I know that you are going to be more than happy with the team that will be out serving you. So, I could have them stand.

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So, uh, you guys can have a seat. Just a couple quick other updates beyond, uh, beyond the introduction. I just want to throw out a two other topics. uh fire stations. So on May 15th, we received

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our stocking permit for our two new fire stations. Uh Chief Martin had furniture delivered yesterday and today and it's already being assembled. Um at the end of this month, we'll have our TCOs, our temporary cos on these buildings, and

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we'll occupy our two new buildings by June 6th. And that is coming really quick. Uh and then uh again, Chief Martin has been doing an incredible job. You know, I tell you, he's done so much for us. Uh he's in charge of all of our

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logistics, supply, support services. Uh he's been doing like the lion share of the work here lately, you know, getting all the things we need for a fire department. and he was able to get uh really pushed and he got all three of our fire engines delivered to uh 108 on

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the west coast where they've been completely outfitted and I think on Thursday uh Chief Martin and a team are going over to pick up our three new fire engines and bring them back here. So that's also very exciting. Uh so that's all I have for you tonight. Short uh

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these folks have been here since uh 7 7:30 this morning. So, uh, I'd like to let them get out of here. We appreciate it. So, if you have any questions of them or of us, >> I think each of us did have the opportunity to have a, uh, have a lunch

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and a quick lunch and meet and greet. We welcome that, right, everybody? >> So, uh, we welcome the, uh, you to the town of Jupiter team or as I told you when I met with you, we're more excited than you are. And um unless there's any

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>> No, I'm excited. I feel like I know you all now after yesterday. Welcome. >> My meet and greet's coming up, so I guess you know there's you folks in a little bit, but we'll let you go home because it's late. So, >> well, you realize with 36 people or

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firemen to sit and talk to, you get one and a half minute per person, right? >> So, the time you make the rounds, introduce yourself, that eats up the 54 minutes, just the meet and greet. So there is no time for lunch. >> So but I really enjoy today meeting with all you. I really appreciate it and

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welcome to Jupiter. So >> and uh so at this point uh thank you chief. Um I we'll we'll take a brief moment here uh to allow not only um our uh uh newest staff members and fire rest

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fire department uh staff along with the other uh staff members that and uh community members that were part of the two proclamations. Uh we'll just take a moment here. If you wish to leave, please do so before we

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restart we start the meeting. Thank you. Thank you. Did you do your last? >> Yeah. Well, now we'll move on to the U presentation on the annual traffic presentation. >> Uh, good evening, mayor, council. For

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the record, Shane Lunford, deputy chief of police. I'll be doing the the first portion of the annual traffic update. Uh this update is going to cover a three-year period from January of 23 through December of 25. Uh during that time frame from 24 to 25, you can see

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we've uh declined 4% in crashes, which equates to 84 less crashes from 2024 to 2025. And there's been a slight decline during that 3-year period from 23 to 25 as well. Uh the major roadway crashes

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included Indiantown Road, alternate A1A, Military Trail, US1, and Donald Ross Road with Indian Town accounting for 46.4% of the crashes along what we consider major roadways in 2025.

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at those top five crash intersections. Indiantown Road uh at Alternate accounted for 68 at Central Boulevard at 65 at Island Way 46 crashes at Donald Ross Military to 37 and at Indiantown

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Road US1 and again at US1 and alternate A1A had 30 crashes each and again most of those occurring along Indian Town Roadway. >> Before you uh go beyond that, I just wanted to make one observation. Um and u for the members of the public that are

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here or watching um this is a very special annual update we get because it's the opportunity for we on the council um and the public to understand what the trends have been. Um, and so we get this every year. And so I was

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delighted to see on the top five crash intersections because I save these reports each year so I can easily go back that Indian Town and alternate A1A in 22 was 75 and 23 was 90 and 24 was

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120. And uh as we had speculated um that being a detour route with the bridge that was the reason we were thinking was the cause of the 120. So it most significant to me to see that go back

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down to 68. I just wanted to have kind of shared that with with the public. >> Absolutely. >> Thank you. For our DUR related crashes and arrests, uh we've seen a a a decline over the

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past three years. 20 24 to 20 25 there is a 17% decrease in DUI related arrests and that correlated with 33 uh% decrease of DUI related crashes during that same time frame. So it went

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from 134 uh from 161 to 134 and 42 and 63 respectively during the past year. for motor vehicle crashes involving bicycles and pedestrians. We've seen an incline over the last three years. Uh non- incapacitating and possible

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injuries, routinely accounting for the majority of those injuries at about 79% for 2025. And as you know, in April of 24, we started the ebike safety campaign. And as of today from 2025, we

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counted 11 ebike related crashes. of those 11 ebike related crashes of 2025. Uh, one was a fatal from March 13th. That was the one at Indian Creek Parkway and South Penn involving a middle school student. Uh, since that we've still focused our efforts on

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proactive enforcement with 183 citations and warnings for ebikes given during the 2025 year. That concludes my portion. Do you have any questions related to anything >> on the ebikes and eos? Were there any of

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them that were actually um town had to take possession of and have towed or anything? >> I don't have those. Those would be arrests. So, we can look into that data and provide that. Uh some of the the citations would include citations issued when we did arrest, make an arrest for

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fleeing to elude or obstruction or one of the other charges, but I could certainly look into that data and provide it to the council. >> Okay. Well, you know, this is and I and we I'm very we're all grateful for everything that our uh uh police department is doing to con, you know,

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continue to educate ongoing and and try to keep working on changing behaviors, but this being for the most part kids, I I know you know, you have to keep on top of that. So, we're grateful for that. Thank you. >> I had a question on the 183 citation. Is

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that primarily involving youths? >> Primarily, yes, we could look at the stats and data, but most of our focus and just so you know from from some of the efforts we do, and it's a daily effort from both day platoon, uh they're directed each day at the end of release for both middle schools to do extra

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patrols and high visibility, not only to enforce traffic, but specifically for ebikes, uh because we know that's a that's a high time frame. So most of those citations are going to be related to juveniles and not adults. >> Okay. On those citation, what's the

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consequence consequences of those citations either to the uh the rider or the parent of the rider? >> It's on a regular uniform traffic citation. Um that does have consequences in affecting your license later on. It's just like getting a ticket. Once you're in Florida, you get a number assigned to your name whether you have a license or

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not. It does affect what time frame you can get your license once you become 15 or 16 and take the course unless you get that citation taken care of. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. >> Just a question on the citations and we've talked about this in the past on the ebikes. How many citations are

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put against somebody before it jeopardizes either their license or a future license if at all? And do you know how many of the citations are multiples to an individual? >> No, I we could look at that information.

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Uh I just have the total overall data. It's kind of like the crash data. This is the total amount we got. We could dig into that to see where it was. And as far as the points that are associated with with them, it depends on what the actual citation was. Was it a moving infraction? Was it a non-moving infraction? Was it a reckless? uh all

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those affects the points and when when license can or cannot be uh obtained later on. >> Okay. All right. >> Deputy chief um back on on slide two. >> Yes, sir.

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>> Uh in I think it's November of 25 the trend was down yearly, but there was a spike in and crashes on that month. Any is that just an anomaly or >> I'm sorry, which one were you referring to? It was um slide two um November of

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25. The graph seems to jump up sort of out of out of the trend of the year for 25. >> Don't know what the jump was. However, >> that might might be worth looking into to see what was going on during that

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time frame if that November. >> Yeah, we could we take a look at that. I just just curious this might be an anomaly or just you know >> and what do you attribute to the decrease in uh DUIs crashes and arrests? >> Well crashes couple things. Uh and as far as the the

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crashes it's it's it's kind of self-explanatory. If there's less DUI related crashes, we're going to have less arrests associated with that. As far as the other um just to take into extra measures of of stuff that we can do to make sure we're staying proactive.

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>> Yeah. Uh next week, um we're doing a DUI field sobriety task force training hosting a school here at the Jupiter Police Department. Uh that's a two-day course that a number of our officers are going through. There's going to be another one in August that a number of our officers and from outside agencies can attend also.

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>> Uh that's being instructed by our own in-house instructors. They are certified to do that. Uh, and in addition to that, all the new hires we bring on during their first year of probation, you're all going to go through that same two-day class just as a refresher from the academy. So, from a proactive standpoint, we're going to make sure

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everybody's still familiarizing. We're pushing that that agenda moving forward. But, um, two classes, one starting next week and another one in August, just to make sure we're staying on top of that. >> But the trend generally there's less people drinking and driving.

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>> It could be. without actually having data to look into that. I could say there probably is ride shares are also more prevalent than they are before and those type of programs, >> but I don't want to rest uh my laurels on on some hypothetical. Maybe we're going to make sure that our guys are

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trained and ready to go out there and do the job. >> There's also trends of uh young people less people drinking in general, which I've heard >> from my my own son who's 21 and and his crew and my daughter who's 26. Uh yeah, that tends to be the trend from what I

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experience in my own house. >> Great. Yeah, >> same here. So, okay. Thank you. Appreciate it. >> Yes, sir. For the record, CJ traffic engineer George is also here to answer uh any question you possibly have. Each year we

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uh evate uh the traffic condition on Indian town road. Uh this year we evate the condition during the pick season 2025 and also beginning of this year as well as the August uh in all uh P

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season. uh we focus on the uh travel time index which is very popular uh the measure of effectiveness that the people are looking at and this TDI is derived from the big data platform primarily is

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the pro prove vehiclebased uh uh database from a nationwide uh database um the TDI is simply the ratio of the actual travel times uh compared to the freeforall travel times So a value of

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the two indicating the actual travel time for this segment is twice as much of the travel time during the uh the freeforall um conditions and uh the value of 2.0 zero or higher indicating

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that uh this segment is at its capac physical capacity which is corresponding to labor service E during last year February and the March uh TTI are most of the um most critical segment on

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Indian town row exceed 2.0 zero in the AM pick uh for the eastbound traffic and uh uh PM pick for the westbound traffic. Um after the signal timing was improved uh implemented in the April midappril

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last year the the TTR was improved uh substantially uh by uh 30%. uh beginning of this year uh the entire corridor got retired by the county again and uh um the TDI was able to uh improve

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slightly and right now the TDIS is around uh 1.5 on the average in both am but the day-to-day variation in the travel time is still remain still remain um

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significant In line with the county's uh comprehensive uh master plan efforts, we also re evar the same uh on the major service street uh primarily on the corridor

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um during the p and pm. Um the ttr on most of the corridor remain below 1.5 1.6 six uh which is a pretty good conditions and u those um but a handful

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that does ex exceed like Indian town road indicating 2.0 zero indicating the over capacity condition again. And these are typically caused by the high demand, the ineffective uh green time um

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implement on the corridor and also the fluctuation in the demand patterns. And notice that the county still implement the so-called time of day time of day uh signal timing. Um so it has the limited relatively

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limited capacity to deal with this traffic uh flaw patterns uh variations. So we hope that uh the adaptive the traffic control system that currently test bed um implemented on Okchobee can

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be a success and later on can be uh adapted to the different parts of the county including Indian town. Yeah, we do have several in signalized intersections um which has been uh

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report by the deputy chief uh in town that does uh present the safety concern um in terms of the I'm reporting the the um safety concern in terms of the crash rate which is the number of the uh

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crashes divided by the exposure which is the uh traffic town and uh Elton L1A and the Indian Town Road in the sections uh stay uh a top um in the

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town and followed by the Riverside uh drive and the L10 and A1A and we also pursue the funding opportunity to mitigate those effect and try to improve the infrastructural uh resilience

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hardening the signal pole and um uh master arm and um and additional signal head will be installed on the u cypress drive. We also continue monitoring the um the the performance at the university

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um and the central boulevard roundabout and the two-way left and land that constructed by the county on center street. both are currently operating in a pretty uh acceptable level. Lastly, um Andre mentioned about uh how we u

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address the mobility and the safety uh need in the town. the town's CIP uh program along with those um of the external funding agency are summarized in this um map as you can

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see. Um this improvement can be broadly categorized into four category. Intersection improvement, roadway improvement, uh safety fencing on FC corridor and lastly the pedestrian cross the

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crosswalk safety enhancement. Um some of the project are uh northw worth it um noted here including the um Indian town road which widening to fall row. Um this

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project is scheduled to for leen in this coming summer and anticipate uh construction is anticipated to begin um by uh November November uh this year. The PDN study for the most critical

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intersection central and the Indian town road has been awarded in March and anticipate to be completed in 36 month uh 3 years from now. Uh finally the signalization at um uh

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Tony Penna Drive and the Central Boulevard currently is in design phase um and the construction is anticipated to begin uh January next year. Um and we hope that the the the

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interlocal agreement will be impressed by that to uh for us to uh begin construction this uh important intersections. I will be more than happy to answer any question if you have. >> Could you just uh back up one slide?

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Um just wanted to really more point this out to the public. you know, you can comment about it, but you know, we the 59% on Center Street uh the uh two-way left turn improvement

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that was done, that's from Lockache River to Indian Town Road. and that being the same upgrade that the county is planning to do from there all the way east to alternate A1A. I think it's significant for those members of the

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public that you know had any concerns about that project. You could just see having a dedicated turn lane has results in a very very significant reduction in crash frequency and crash rate. So you'd

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expect the same when they do the project further to the east. Correct. >> Yes. Or even better because we are in the process the planning zone in and also engineering department are in the process of injecting the more concrete

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street concrete street design into yeah into their uh design work. So uh to to be able to improve like um um printings the mediums and also the um the

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multi-use trail multi-use trail um the the um on the both side of the roadway one side of the roadway. Yeah. So uh those additional improvement um uh once

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it's wire in you would anticipate to even have a higher uh uh benefit. >> So moving on back to page nine I just have one uh couple comments here uh page nine forward >> forward

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>> forward you know to the last page I said back but I'm sorry we were on page nine. Um I'm really delighted how this every year um has resulted in the fact that having our police and

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engineering department focus on traffic issues throughout the town. Um how that leads to a pretty large scope and it may take a while to get them but so this of intersection improvements, road

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improvements, grateful for that. So two specific questions. So the Tona Penna Drive complete street being a 2035 cost feasible project. I'm not sure that I knew about that before and maybe that was Can you give us an update on where

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that stands is that in the MO process or what? Yeah, it still remained as uh cost feasible the uh uh TBI specific the program the the funding. Yeah, I guess

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it's $6 million for it part. Yeah, >> I'm sure the council would be interest if there's any detail about that. I'm sure the council might be interested in that. Occasionally we get questions about Tona Pana and uh but that means

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2035 there's no funding for it. I can right I mean this is just >> a project that is uh was uh was thrown out there as being into a long-term plan. Um and then this lastly do you have any

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update on the FC car defensing? the >> I'm not trying to put you on the spot because I just want to know if I need to. >> The um FDOT implement that uh safety uh grant in two uh direction. One is for the fencing. >> Yeah.

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>> But uh one is for still the enhanced crossing. >> Yeah. >> Myself by um installing the delineator and the marking RPM so forth. Right now per FDOT they focus on the second counter measures which is uh still the

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the crossing uh safety enhancement for the fencing. Um they are um uh possibly uh reactivate uh the communication with the FC

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uh together to review the the rightway uh requirement for the fencing. So uh it is still possible uh that the uh the the reviewing process will be continue after uh

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>> but there was actually grant funding for it in Jupiter was there or not? >> Yes. Uh yes but they they per like I said the per FDOT right now their focus is finish the cross uh crossing safety first.

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>> Okay. I'd be interested outside of this meeting to get any contact information on that. I if I can help to nudge them along. Thank you. >> Sure. >> Any other question? >> I just wanted to make an observation um on the alternate. This is on the high crash location on page um 8.

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>> The mitigation done at alternate A1A in Riverside within the last few weeks. Uh I pass that several times a day. And there are those and I don't know what they're called the metal markers or they're tall and when so when someone makes a turn now they have to go slow

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down and make the turn whereby before they were making turns left or right didn't matter which way they came and sometimes it was on two wheels. So that alone I'm going to be watching to see if that has really mitigated because just what I'm seeing it was a great great

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addition to that corner and I would have to believe it's going to reduce some of those accidents. Great job that possibly imp by the county. Yeah. >> Yeah. Well, thank you to the county

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then. Great job. Uh CJ, on slide nine, um road improvements number eight, Indiantown Road, westbound four laning. Can you describe what's going on there? Oh. Um, we got the um the uh

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the uh Congress uh EOM mark funding for that and originally was to improve uh to to widen the the the second phase of Indian town interchange improvement. So basically extended the the force land

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from the central all the way to the current uh the the the um the Jupiter west plaza to to have the complete the force land. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. But not continuing down towards 95. >> Yes. >> It would continue down 95.

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>> Yeah. Of course it already does. >> Yeah. >> But it actually the scope got reduced because of the PD&E. So the westbound would only pick up about a couple hundred feet west of the uh mobile gas station,

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>> right? >> So it's not from center central boulevard. >> Oh yeah. There were there were like um acquis land acquisition issues. Correct. With the gas station. >> Yeah. For the gas station. >> Will that ever get ever changed and or is that a permanent situation?

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>> No. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. FDOT decided to set aside the rightway acquisition process and then to be able to expedite that project. >> Okay. >> There's hope because it's encompassed into the PD study for the intersection.

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>> Mhm. Okay. Right. Which is few years down the road, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. >> And one question on that uh any town road widening, the fourlaning, you said it's going to start in November. Is that correct? >> Yeah. How long will that last? That

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widening, adding that fourth lane, you have a schedule. How long is going to take to put that that fourth lane in? Let me reach back to uh FDOT project manager for that. >> And will they require closing any of like the three lanes

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in order to put that fourth lane in? I'm concerned about starting in November right during the peak of uh the season and we may be closing potentially a lane on Indiantown Road towards the interstate and we've already got traffic backed up. I just wondered what the

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plans were as far as road closures there and for how long. George Zama for the record, uh, deputy director of engineering and public works. Um, so DOT actually, um, let the project and the bids came in and they

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are actually evaluating the bids now, so it's a little earlier than expected. So, they hope to begin construction sooner than November. Either way, we are going to be impacting into a season. Um I would expect the project to last at

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least eight eight months, 8 to 12 months, but we will get confirmation as CJ said on the um the construction schedule when the uh construction contract is executed. Um as far as uh maintenance of traffic, the intent is to

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keep all lanes of traffic open >> and um you know if there's intermittent lane closures, they try to uh perform that at night when it's not impacting traffic much. It's going to be similar to what we experienced with the initial widening project. So there may be some

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intermittent closures uh preferably at night and mostly at night, but um there may be some daytime. If it's daytime, it'll be outside of peak hours. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Happy question. >> All righty. Um, >> good.

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>> Seeing no no other comments or questions. Thank you very much uh for the presentation. And now I'll move on to citizen comments. This is the time for all non-aggenda items and it's limited to three minutes. And anyone wishing to speak is asked to state his

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or her name and address for the record prior to addressing the council. Council will not discuss these items these this evening and any issues get referred to staff for followup and then a report is provided to the council and citizens

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will be contacted and so with that I believe we have public comments. >> Yes sir. We have six speakers tonight >> on non-aggenda items. >> Yes sir. >> Okay. >> Our first speaker is Carla Adamsberger followed by Jen Kleer.

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Uh, good evening. Um, my name is Carla and I live on in Riverside Drive Park and I'm here regarding the ongoing cat situation on Summer Avenue. Um, right now I'm just at the point where I just can't stand the smell, the

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pee, the poop all over my yard from our neighbor behind us cats. Um, I have a beautiful pool that we spend a lot of money on. I have a patio, but none of it can be enjoyed because honestly, the smell is horrific all day, all the time.

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I live right behind her. And now with the heat coming, it even gets worse. Um, there are all kinds of cages and stuff in her backyard. Um, honestly, it's a mess back there. her yard and my neighbor's yard are litter

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boxes, including my yard. Um, I don't I just don't think it's fair for me to not be able to enjoy my backyard and my pool that I've spent a lot of money on. I just I have a new grandson, so he's over there swimming, but there's

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days where we don't even go outside because it smells so bad. We can't enjoy it. I put in fake grass. I just spent $2,000 on fake grass, which I'm kind of thinking maybe that wasn't a good idea because if I just spent a lot of money of my hard-earned money. Um, we left for

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a vacation. I came back to poop and pee all over my back porch, a brand new carpet, my deck box, the wall, the baby toys, the pool floats, which were all brand new cuz like I said, he's he's, you know, only 15 months old, which it I

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had to clean all that. And I'm just tired of cleaning it up. Um, I've replaced rugs, cushions. I mean, like I said, the deck box. I have to clean it up all the time. Uh, it's on my

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porch. It's on the deck. It's in the rocks. It's in my grass in the front yard. It's in my beds of my plants. It's all the time. That's all I do. And it has to be a risk, health risk, not only to us and the neighbors, but to the lady

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who lives in that house. I can't imagine it because if I can smell it that bad, I can't imagine what she's smelling all day long. And I mean, I've talked to Officer Black a couple of times um from animal control and she suggested that I

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buy things to deter the cats, but why should I have to spend my hard-earned money? I mean, I have a whole fence. It would it would take hundreds and hundreds of dollars for me to keep this ongoing. I mean, it's every day. It's not just once in a while. They have

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they're on my golf cameras. So, they're on my golf cart. They're on my roof. They're on my boat. They're on my patio deck. They're on my car. They're on my tables in the back. They're on my chairs in the back. I mean, my house is an Airbnb basically for them to enjoy. And

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And you can just say it's one or two cats, but it's not. It's multiple cats. And there's I mean, I know at one point there was 30 or 40 cats over there, and they're all over the place. They're just everywhere. you see them all day long everywhere.

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So, um I would just like someone to think about if you were in this situation and you live there and you had a grandson and family that wants to come over and you want to have time in the backyard. That's what we do in our yards in the summertime. That's what it's

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about. So, thank you. >> Thank you, >> Jen Kyler. Good evening, council. Um, again, just to piggyback on what Carla said. Um, I'm here tonight regarding the ongoing health issues in our neighborhood that has affected our residents for many

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years. Uh, we have a neighbor, as Carla mentioned, that has accumulated dozens of cats with no regard to the health and safety of those around her and herself. And for years, multiple neighbors have repeatedly contacted staff within the town of Jupiter, animal control, code code compliance, and the police

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department. Officials have visited the property and issued warnings and code violations. Yet, the problem continues without a meaningful resolution. This is no longer just a nuisance issue. It's become a public health issue and a quality of life concern for surrounding residents. The ammonia smell outside is

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awful. And it and again, I ask you to put yourselves in our shoes. What would you do um if you were exposed to this day in day out? Would you want your family exposed to the persistent odors and the animal waste on your property? We have done our best to follow every channel available to us, and it's cost

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us a considerable amount of time and money, but little has changed. What has compelled me to be here tonight is that a longtime resident and a truly great neighbor ultimately felt forced to move from his home after living next to this unsanitary and toxic situation for 11

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years. I'm truly at a loss. I'm not here asking for any punishment or any additional conflict. I'm simply asking for someone to finally take some responsibility and to stop turfing this ongoing problem to someone else. I believe you're going to actually be receiving um some additional emails from

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the neighbors that couldn't be here tonight um just because we're all frustrated and we just request some additional guidance on this issue whether it's contacting the health department. Um, I know code compliance has been out there in the past, but again, no resolution has come from any of this, and it's just been going on for

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far too long, costing us way too much time, energy, and money, and it's affecting our health. Thank you. Our next two speakers are Peter Polland and Leanne Lawbeck. Uh my name is Peter Pullen. I live at

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703 Irwin Lane. Uh I'm want to comment or on the property at 500 North Delaware Avenue. Uh I appreciate what you've done with that land. I'm glad so glad you bought it

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and I appreciate the removal of the exotics. But since you have removed most of the meluca trees, uh, we don't seem, my wife and I have both commented, we don't seem to see the number of osprey we used to see over the creek. So, I

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would like to suggest or request that we install that you install an osprey nesting post on that land. I think that would increase the number of osprey and I think we would all the neighbors would enjoy the osprey. They're such wonderful birds. And if

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finances are a problem, I'll pay for it. >> Thank you. >> Thank you, >> Leanne Wbeck. >> Good evening. Um, so I'm glad to hear that we're celebrating Arbor Day in the

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town of Jupiter. Uh, I do wish that we had been able to save the tree in Sinquaz Park a little bit better. Um, I know that there were promises made that it would be left as is, but it does look like construction has breached into it.

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It's not going to be able to grow any further and it has unfortunately been damaged with the um, uh, construction from Sinquis Park Fire Station. I believe I forgot to mention. Hi, my name is Leon Lbeck. I live on Carver Avenue

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for those of you who haven't met me already. Um, so, uh, I do hope that we'll be able to enjoy the park soon. I know that construction is never fun for anyone and, um, I'm excited to see

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things wrap up, for the portaotties to be gone, for the construction vehicles to be gone, for the park to be usable again. um and for there to be a sidewalk towards the bus station that my son takes um again and you know fewer

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hazards for the children of the neighborhood. Um however, the most problematic thing and the thing that I wanted to address the most today was the new stop uh light that's been put at the end of Carver Avenue on Indian Town

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Road. Um, for those of you who haven't seen it, it's for some reason shorter than uh normal stop lights. It's directly in your eyes whether you're driving or walking down the road. You can see it for the entire length of Carver Avenue, whether you're walking or

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driving. And unfortunately, the bright red blinking red lights, there's two of them for some reason, can be seen from my front yard. So, I can't leave my house at all without having bright flashing lights in my front yard. Uh, I

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can't walk in my neighborhood without it in my face all the time uh since they turned them on a few weeks ago. So, I'm hoping that there is another solution that can maintain the safety on Indian Town Road that can help um make sure

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that the new fire trucks can, you know, do what they need to do safely, but can also allow me and I'm sure my neighbors to continue the enjoyment of our private properties as well as continue to enjoy

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the neighborhood once it's restored to a usable state Again, um I'm hoping that the staff can review this and review the location and uh report back with options that safeguard our enjoyment of our

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private property um and also address the needs of that intersection that's been created for the purpose of the fire station. Thank you. Good evening. Our next two speakers are Todd Fabry

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followed by Richard Rendina. >> Good evening. Um, mayor and council members. Todd Fabri, 20145 Southeast Bridgewater Drive. uh wanted to just briefly speak in support of I believe a letter council may have gotten a copy of

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towards the end of April, early May and staff regarding uh supporting the idea of allowing concurrent processing of site plan applications alongside related land use and zoning applications. Uh, concurrent review benefits both the

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applicants and the town by giving staff and council a more complete understanding of a project earlier in the process, allowing policy decisions to be made with the benefit of actual site planning details rather than in the abstract.

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It also improves the efficiency of reducing unnecessary delays and duplicative review cycles and costly redesigns that can occur under a strictly sequential process. In today's environment, in rising construction cost

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and financing challenges and rapidly changing market conditions, timing is often critical to whether a project is able to move forward or not. Importantly, allowing concurrent submittals does not reduce the town's

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oversight or public input in any way. The council still retains full authority over the approvals and hearings. It simply creates more coordinated and predictable review process that benefits uh all parties involved.

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uh many jurisdictions already utilize this type of framework because it helps streamline administration, encourages quality investment and allows projects to move forward more thoughtfully and efficient efficiently. Um I believe this may have been a previous policy that was

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somewhere along the line may have been changed to not allow the concurrent review but would like uh just to respectfully request that you consider a change to that policy if possible. and thank you for your time and consideration tonight. Thank you.

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>> Our final speaker is Richard Wend Reendina. >> Good evening, mayor and council members. My name is Richard Randina. I live on Penic Point Road here in Jupiter. Um, also the CEO of Randina Companies

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located in Jupiter, Florida in Abcoa and been a Jupiter resident for 20 plus years. Um, I have a copy of the letter that Todd just cited um that was mailed to each of the town council members as

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well as the town attorney and town manager. I can Am I able to give those? Not that you need them, but for reference, um, uh, my father, Bruce Randina, along with

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George Guardiola, were involved in the original development of Abakcoa, including portions, uh, of the commercial and town center development. Groundbreaking was 1998, 1999, of the town center. Mayor Caretsky was

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elected in 2001. Um, I'm here tonight as followup to my April 30th letter. I'm asking for consideration of a simple policy adjustment uh to allow for concurrent processing of site plan applications with land use or

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zoning applications uh at the applicant's option. While I call this a change, it's really more of a return how the process worked for many years. Um, I understand the current approach uh

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was implemented with good intentions uh during 2022 2023 time period uh when council member uh Cheryl Snder was serving. Uh I believe the intent uh was to improve

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efficiency, help applicants such as myself and manage staff workload. Uh but in practice it's having the opposite effect. Um disappointing to see that uh council member Sunstrom isn't here. She's the

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only one on the dis that I've spoken to directly about this and uh maybe you're able to to speak to her about that. Um but today both council and staff are are being asked to make decisions in a

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vacuum without a site plan without knowing what will ultimately be be built. It's very hard to for council members and staff to be able to approve a zoning text amendment, a land use change without knowing what the

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developer's intentions are with the site plan. Um staff puts in the time but that but without full context. Council still makes decisions but without full visibility and the process adds time in

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an environment where timing matters. uh costs change, markets move, projects become harder to deliver. Uh the adjustment does not reduce oversight. It does not remove public input. It simply gives everyone more complete

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information earlier in the process, and that's the goal. So, I would respectfully ask um that the town council and staff review the policy and bring back a recommendation for an optional concurrent process with

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appropriate guard rails. Thank you. >> Thank you. That was in the public comments, correct? Yes. >> And we don't normally comment, but I'll just run through so those who took the time to come here understand, you know,

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as I indicated, we don't discuss the items tonight. Um, but generally um, you know, our staff hears these things and um, we get a report through the town manager's office. So, uh I uh

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you know my deepest uh sympathies to the residents that spoke about the cat health issues. Uh I thought that had gone in a better direction some time ago. So hearing the update, we'll get an update from

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uh our staff through our town manager and see what if anything can be done uh regarding the comment about our property acquisition on Delaware and declining osprey population. I'm sure

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our staff will follow up on that item. um regarding the comment observation with regard to the uh lighting um on Indian Town uh coming out of Sin Quiz Park area for

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our fire department. We'll get a report I'm sure on that if what if anything can be done about that. And then in the last items, uh the fact that councelor Sunstrom is not here doesn't disadvantage you in any way because we wouldn't be talking about it tonight. Uh

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and I would expect um there are um there's no one thing that always works. So, uh, I' I'd ask, uh, through our town manager to, uh, uh, you know, respond back to us individually and, um, then if

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we're so inclined, we would pursue some either a policy change or a one-time change or whatever. But again, I leave that to the town manager to get back with us on. And, uh, so with that, uh, I move on. council. Uh we have before us

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the minutes of the May 5th meeting and there's minor corrections on the dis. If there's no other corrections, I'd take a motion and a second to approve the minutes as amended. >> I'll make a motion that we accept the minutes of May 5th, 2026 with the

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exception of page 7 under Mayor Kitky's. Um there is a minor change. >> I'll second. >> Motion to second. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. Motion carries unanimously. Moving on to the consent agenda. Is

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there any member of the public that wish to pull a consent agenda item? >> No sir. >> Any member on the dis wish to pull a consent agenda item? >> Yes. I'd like to pull 8 9 10 12 and 14.

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>> 8 9 10 >> 12 and 14. Okay. Um, any other item? >> Eight and 11. >> Any other item to be pulled? >> No, not on my part. >> So much for consent.

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Um, I'll take a motion in a second to approve an amended consent agenda consisting of items 6, 7, and 13. >> So moved as amended.

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>> Second >> motion in a second. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. >> Motion carries. Uh, that that was unanimous. >> Well, yeah. One question of item six was postponed. >> Yes. >> Okay. All right.

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>> That's on the uh amended agenda. >> So, yes. >> Okay. Moving on to item eight. First item pulled. I think it was uh going to be pulled by two members of the council. What I'll go first go to councelor

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Kiser. Do you have any questions or >> Yeah, I have a couple questions and also leadership here tonight. >> Sure. >> My mic is on now. Thank you. I had a couple questions of staff and also for the soul leadership if they're here

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tonight. Uh first, u the Elsoul strategic facility plan identified issues with the building. For example, needs painting. Windows need to be caught to prevent water intrusion. Stuckle needs repaired. Roof needs minor repair. and the front door replaced. If

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the third amendment is approved by the town council, will the town building engineering department conduct an inspection of the building to verify whether or not these uh conditions are valid? >> Yes, they will. >> So, that is the plan.

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>> Yes. >> Okay. And the second question is if the found valid will the town develop a plan with cost to make these repairs and present this to council for consideration obviously with appropriation at a later date hopefully before the end of the year maybe.

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>> It's likely that as with any capital improvement plans that those would be part of the capital improvement project and subject council's approval and appropriation. >> Okay. So that we'd include some type of CIP then for it. Okay. >> Yes. >> All right. and my questions to Elil.

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>> Hi, >> Whitback, right? >> Suzanne. Yes, >> Suzanne. >> Whitbeck. >> Um, can you just give me a brief summary of the benefits brings to the community? For example, volunteer hours recorded per year. How many adults participating in the adult program has received their GE GED? Was your annual staff salaries?

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If you could just address those. I'm looking for the overall benefit for Elsole to the community. >> Um, sure. Yes. Good evening. and um thank you for allowing us the opportunity to be here. Um we've been here for 20 years.

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We have um taken care of the day labor uh market that existed uh mainly on Center Street in the streets of Jupiter, but mainly concentrated on Center Street. And um those of you who were

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here before Elsopen will remember that it was a situation of of total of chaos for everybody involved. The residents in the area uh the workers themselves. Uh there was loitering. There was um

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traffic issues, traffic flow issues. People were it was intimidating to walk down the street with a couple hundred people walking there. Um so that has been the number one um solution that we have that Elsoul has brought to the town of Jupiter. The town

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um council was a big part of it. Uh we like to say that we um are a true example of how a community can come together because the town council was receiving so many complaints about this and um instead of ignoring and pretending that this wasn't happen because it was happening all over the

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country um this community came together government the the school FA um FAU the uh houses of worship the different faiths the citizens residents and the workers themselves And the solution that

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came to be was also as far as um numbers put my glasses on. I can tell you that in um 2025 for the calendar year we facilitated 10,499

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job placements. That means that um employers came in and hired day labors for 10,499 different jobs generating just through those jobs over a million 1.2 million in

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in income for labors that turn turns around and comes into Jupiter. um nationwide studies estimate that more than between 8 and 82% of money that day laborers um earn comes back to their local communities in the forms of rent,

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utilities, they have to buy food, they have to buy, you know, shoes for their kids if they have kids, you know, it's money that comes back. Um, these labors were picked up by 1,625 unduplicated employers. So, homeowners

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and business owners came in to pick up um in 2025 it was a total of 625 unduplicated workers who were picked up to do these jobs. Okay. Now day laborers don't get all

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their work from a day labor hall. They might come in once a week. They might come in three times a week. They might come in only on Saturdays because they have other jobs lined up. So the income that is that their work represents is not this number that I'm giving you is not for it's just what comes out from

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Jupiter. I mean from the elol labor program if that makes sense. Um, as far as um, education, we have I just have, by the way, the we just finished printing it with Michelle

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back here. Thank you. The first quarter, we've summarized it. It's going to be a lot um, easier for you all to read. You'll have it tomorrow morning. But for 2025, I can tell you that in um, adult educa, we operate in six areas of focus. So, labor being the core of what we do.

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in adult education. Last year we had a total of uh um 106 students in the spring semester and 128 in the fall just for the English portion of of the program. And um

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for our GED prep and and students coming in to to learn how to read and write, these are adults. These are much smaller groups. We had to 21 certificates issued um for for for adult students learning how to to like I say read and write or

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finishing primary, finishing secondary, getting their GED. Um we also have programs in vocational training. We have um students getting um their their KTP. Um we had an unduplicated participation in our worker development program uh

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last year of 343 workers that came in to do workshops to learn how to paint a wall. Um we I'm going through this. We had 14 uh students get their serve safe food handler which is of course is nationwide

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and we had a total of 32 students participating in sewing. Um these are skills that they can take with them and help them earn a living. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Um this is very very

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>> I think you pretty well covered a lot of the benefits. >> I mean I could go on you see tell you with staff real quickly. We have a total of 13 full-time staff members and um between 12 and 14 part-time staff

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members who who um it that changes based on our nighttime classes. >> Mhm. And what's their annual salary? >> Um this year it's budgeted just around $1 million. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. It's fairly significant. So, and one last question. If your uh lease amendment is not

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approved, what is the impact on your ability to raise funds, operating funds? I know you look at grants and private donations, stuff like that. >> Absolutely. Our budget for this year is um our cash budget is just about $1.8 million and about 1 million come is

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budgeted to come from grants. >> Mhm. >> We will not be able to write a grant and ask for funding without a lease. Nobody's going to give you money to if you don't have a place to to to you know to give your programs. The rest of the funding comes from private foundations

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um many who are local and they also even though we don't have to write a grant they also want to know um that that we have a solid s you know a place to be able to perform >> okay >> our what we're doing >> all right thank you >> so it would have a significant impact

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>> I appreciate thank you >> thank you >> and I believe you uh counselor yeah Suzanne nice to see you tonight um just want to stop by I've always appreciated what else brought to the community at the problem that it's cleaned up over in Center Street and all that. Um, but I I

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I remember I think it was around the time we renewed the last lease that council was, you know, sort of nudging folks like maybe it's not it's not a permanent location to move on. Have you guys looked into any other locations or on that?

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>> We have We have we um have gotten the message that the the town's needs are changing and that the space is going to be needed. Um the real estate market in Jupiter is impossible right now. It's very difficult. We have started looking.

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We've looked at um a couple places. Um one property which would be beautiful, perfect, is over $4 million, which first thing we would need to do is raise the money for it. And it's located um in what's a residential area. So there's many factors, many challenges that we're

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facing with trying to relocate, but we understand that, you know, that this is what you all are looking for us. But, you know, traffic flow issues um for the morning labor when when drivers are coming in with their trailers and everything. You can't just do that. And

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>> I I understand. Yeah. But my >> but we have we have started looking. >> I don't have a problem with renewing the lease. It's just the the five years I think it is a bit long. And I was more in favor of a two or a for three with options but um I don't know if I can if I may. We need time

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>> I understand >> to raise the money and to finance. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Have you raised any money? >> We just um allocated a um a capital reserve fund, but it's not even a million dollars yet. >> Okay.

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>> So, we've got a way to go. >> Okay. Again, it's >> But you're But you're in the process of So, you've got a million dollars put aside. >> Not quite yet, but yes. >> Okay. >> And we're also in a process we we have to do programmatic strategic planning >> which will also influence our space

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needs, right? So, >> okay, that's all. Thank you. >> So, that's the time I'm looking for. >> Thank you. >> I understand that we have uh four members of the public that wish to speak if in fact this item was pulled. >> Yes, sir. Can we

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>> our first speaker is Suzanne Wbeck. >> Oh, >> I pretty much was going to give you some numbers. So, I think the only thing I would like to add to that is that um we're not we like I said, we understand

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that 20 year 20 year ago 20 years ago when we came together to solve this problem, Jupiter was a different Jupiter. Okay? So, we understand that. So, we're asking for this runway, but we also Jupiter was very unique in how Jupiter solved this problem. Okay? It

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was a path that was thoughtful. It was collaborative and it was very much our own. I can't tell you how many calls I get from other municipalities. Is there an El Soul here? Can you come please open an El? We're like, no, we're we're we're Jupiter. This is what we do. So I

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am asking that we we honor that that you allow us to continue um down this path and that we work together. You know we we're celebrating 20 years. Let's continue this collaboration and looking forward. >> But but you are making this moving forward with steps to

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>> yes >> put money aside so down the road >> move on to your own place. So okay because this is a public campus the land's valuable. The town may need it for services obviously. So you you know all this. I'm just for the record you want to get that out there. So >> yeah, I understand.

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>> Okay. Thank you. >> So thank you. >> Thank you. >> Our next two speakers are PJ Willis followed by Craig Scarado. >> Good evening. My name is PJ Willis. I'm the current uh chair of Elsoul. So thank you for having us tonight. Um I'm here

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to share 20 years ago, you know, history of Jupiter, you know, been defined by a commitment of our, you know, of our neighbors. It's a story of a community organization growing intentionally, logically, and naturally alongside the residents we serve. 20 years ago, Elsoul

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opened its doors with a singular vital focus. Provide a safe, organized, and dignified employment exchange for laborers. But communities are living, needs evolve. You know, over the last two decades, we've closely, you know, we

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work closely with the workers. We've quickly realized that to truly support a laborer, we have to help them grow. Our services did not expand by coincidence. Every single program we added grew organically from an unmet need, voiced

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by the residents of Jupiter who walk through their front doors. Our initial labor program naturally evolved into advancing worker development to help workers improve their skills, earn better wages. We intro from there we introduced

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specialized programs sewing classes computer training in-house workshops as Suzanne mentioned serve safe where those that want to have a career in the restaurant industry have the ability to get their certification. Next came language as we improved the ability for

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the residents to communicate. Their ability to communicate also meant that they could integrate safely within the community. This created our English and Spanish literacy classes of all all of which is available to residents of Jupiter. A resident of Jupiter can't come to Elsoul and learn how to speak Spanish.

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Next came the kids, right? We want to take care of the children in this community. You know, as parents work hard to build better life for themselves. You know, we wanted to help and needed to help the kids integrate better into our school systems that we're doing. You know, kids that weren't able to keep up with the classes are now

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able to keep up with the classes. You know, we offer tutoring programs 4 days a week for kids after school within the community we serve. Finally, we address basic dignity. You know, the ability to work uh requires a full stomach. The ability to study

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requires a full stomach. Through our uh collaboration with Cross Ministries, we offer a food pantry, you know, two days a week to provide those within the community that are food insecure access to those needs. also available to the

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town of Jupiter. So, while we understand the town is looking for us to find a new home, you know, as Suzanne mentioned, Jupiter is extremely difficult place to find properties. It's not going to cost a million. It's not going to cost $2

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million. It could cost $5 million. It could cost $10 million based off of who we're competing with in the rest of this country. So we would we would uh prefer a longer lease so that way we have the runway we needed and it also takes the stress off the staff. You know as

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Suzanne mentioned we do employ quite a few people that also live in this community and the last two years have created an amount a large amount of stress for not only our donors the employee the employers or the laborers that we work with as well as as the

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employees themselves. So thank you for your time. Our next speaker is Craig Skado. >> Good evening, council mayor. Um, I want to represent the practical side of El Soul. I'm a resident of Jupiter,

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uh, 18319 Oakleaf Drive, uh, for 36 years. I when I first moved in was part of that center street hustle looking for people to help me maintain my yard, help me

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paint my house, do those type of things. Um, I've had very successful businesses in Palm Beach County hosting Kravis Center, City Place, the Fairgrounds, Food and Beverage, and very formidable kitchen cabinet business, uh, doing

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kitchens in thousands of homes here in Jupiter. So my story is that in those first days when I was needing labor to help, I went to Center Street and it was a shuffle.

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Then when El Soul came about, I had an avenue. I had a safe avenue. I had names. I had representation. I was able to identify what their skills were and use those skills

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and I was a actually able to help those people move on in their life. Uh helping them get their naturalization, helping them learn a language and helping them become mainstream. At

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the same time, they were helping me both on my personal side and the business side. I currently have an employee who is naturalized from Cuba a few months ago and he's learning English so that I

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don't have to use Google Translate to help him along. So back from the beginning of Elsoul till now, it is an incredible organization that supports this community in ways

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that our children and our culture has changed and the other cultures that have arrived here in Jupiter are fulfilling those needs. So I think it's imperative and important

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that we preserve a space for El Soul that they have a place to continue this effort and help mainstream the people that participate there. So with that, thank you very much for the

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consideration. Uh, Mayor Gretzky, my wife Jan, the swim instructor said to say hello. >> Thank you. >> Our last speaker is Kathleen Wadd. Good evening. My name is Kathleen Wadell

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and I live at 6502 Winding Lake Drive, Jupiter, Florida for over 33 years. I want to speak in support of El Soul and the Jupiter Resource Center. In 2024, there were over 352 active community

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volunteers who contributed over 9600 hours. Since 2012, I understand there were over 900 v individuals who reached out to volunteer in a variety of programs.

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In 2016, after retiring from the US Army and then from the VA medical center, I like many volunteers looked for place to be productive and to be able to use my talents and experience. Volunteering

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supports physical and mental health. Working with others, giving back to our community, providing purpose in our lives, enhances well-being by opening up networks that increase socializations for those of us that are aging.

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activities of gardening and assisting with foods prep and service allows gentle exercises and positive positive interactions with clients, workers and staff. Els also provides available worker

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clients to assist with difficult task that need to be accomplished in our homes, whether it's cleaning, gardening, or assisting with hurricane shutters or helping with family members. I am grateful for what Elsoul has

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provided me and our community. Elsoul is a gem in Palm Beach County. As an aside, I understand there are stories of employers who come from Miami or Port St. Lucy to pick up willing and

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well-trained workers. I strongly encourage you to consider the value L soul provides to your community campus. The impact depends on El Soul. Many of

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many of our the positive impact on the Jupiter community depends on El Soul for their purpose in life, their positive activities, mental health during our aging years. I encourage you to extend

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the lease as long as you can. I want it to be extended until I finally retire. Thank you. >> That was it on public comments. >> Yes, sir. >> Yeah. I just um I'll go ahead and start up here to comment. Um so I'm very

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familiar with Elsoul. I'm grateful for um the volunteers, the organization, the volunteers that have volunteered there over many years. Uh I'm grateful for the widespread public support that provides funding and grants that has kept it

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going. Um I u I I certainly don't want to take a step backwards. I'm grateful that um in our package on page 9 and 10 um it was very thoroughly done by El

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Soul providing they looked at strategic options and it's extremely challenging um in not only this market but in this country at this point in time to pursue anything else. Um I

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recall uh how often the town has leveraged the existence of El Soul to reach out to part of the community that we had no other way to reach out to and educate about different matters and what have you. And it's my recollection that

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our neighborhoods department uh who has always worked closely with El Soul in fact had asked during I think it was co or whatever for cross ministries to be located there um basically to provide food source

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during those difficult times or it might have been before then. So and you know that's the partnership that has gone back and forth. So it exists to this day because my recollection is town actually asked for it to be put there and bingo.

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Um the lease that we have before us which I support um has a termination provision which um has existed in prior the prior lease is just a repeat. five-year term and um

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Elsoul can serve notice within 30 days if they decide they wanted to move elsewhere and uh the town has uh would need to provide at least 6 months advanced notice. So we have provisions there if something were to come up that

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we needed to take some action uh 6 months is certainly u an easy enough time that we could deal with that. So, I don't see a reason to shorten a lease. I support it as it was presented. I don't know where we'll stand on the dis. I know I heard one for a shorter lease.

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And if I need to, I'll pass to Gavl to make a motion. >> I'd like to make a motion unless there's any comments >> for the town to enter into a 5-year lease with Elsoul for the property at 106 Military Trail >> as presented. >> As presented. Yes.

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>> I'll second that. My >> my questions were answered. It's fine. >> Okay. Okay. I did have comments. >> Oh, >> I'm sorry. >> It's okay. >> I first of all, I want to thank Elol. Your generosity

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to the community with volunteer hours, all of you, it is so appreciated. Els is an economic search engine. There is no question. Your laborers bring their income back into Jupiter. I do support a

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renewal of a lease of 5 years, but I don't app I do don't support extending it. I think I would like to just see a 5-year lease with no extensions. Um, and this I think should give sufficient time

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to work on your reserve funding. Real estate is very difficult. I appreciate that and I understand that. But at some point in time going to have to spread those wings and figure out if there is an opportunity. Um and hopefully some opportunity is

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going to come along 20 years. You've done an amazing amount of um goodwill to the community. I've been here for almost 30. So, I watched what you did, how you did it, how the town got involved, how the ministries

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got involved um in all of the services that you provide. Again, I support a 5-year lease. I do not support extending um lease renewals. >> I think that the motion and the second on the floor is to uh approve the lease

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as presented. >> So, I'll first correct. Yeah. >> So, I'll I'll call a vote on the motion as presented. Uh all in favor signify by saying I. I >> I opposed. >> Opposed. >> Motion carries 3 to one with the vice

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mayor dissenting. Okay. Um thank you. Um I'll move on to item number nine. Uh this item was pulled by councelor Gisinger. Yeah, I pull nine and 11 because they're fairly similar contracts for consulting

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services. So, the questions I have to ask uh for director of engineering pertain to both. So, hopefully it'll expedite some of the Q&A portion of this. So, if if you would, I'd like to start out with director Zama. Uh would you please review the selection criteria

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that the town used for these consultants for both agenda items 8, I mean, excuse me, agenda items 10 and 11? Yeah, sure. Um, for the record, George Zama, engineering, director of engineering and public works. Um, so

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both of these contracts are similar. They're just a different scope of services. Um, as was mentioned. Um, so um the contracts are um were procured under the Florida statute 287.055,

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the consultants competitive negotiations act or CCNA. Um and uh these contracts uh for design um must be selected based on qualifications and um there are

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provisions within this um statute um for streamlining projects because these projects must be um selected based on qualifications which requires um sub submitted bids, selection committees to review the qualifications.

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It could be an extended process. So we present these item these um continuing services contracts to to select on um based on a a bulk of scope of services um with specific selection criteria as

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was asked. The selection criteria were professional qualifications, past relevant project performance, uh project approach, the firm's internal quality assurance and quality control uh practices, uh location, and there are um

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uh provisions within the statutes that um specify scoring for um small business enterprises, minority business enterprise, and um diversity business enterprises. So um the scoring um

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selection criteria this the qualifications were based on the criteria uh we had uh multiple firms submit for both um and the selection committee met scored uh based on this criteria and we took the average scoring

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to rank the firms. >> So if I understand that correctly cost is not considered as by Florida statute. So that's correct. So for selecting firms, so >> for the selection >> for specific projects um you select a single firm

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>> and um um the highest qualified uh firm that's ranked um you enter into negotiations for a price for the project and um so they're subject to negotiation. Um if you can't if prices are too high, you can't reach an

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agreement, um you must move on to the second firm and enter into negotiations and you cannot go back to the first firm. Um so um you must move down the line of your ranking order. Um in this case, we're allowed to uh we the

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contract is structured so we select a pool of of consultants based on their qualifications. For each project, a work order will be issued um with uh with uh based on um negotiated prices which are

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the fee schedules that are established within the contract as well as hours for each task of the proposed project. Okay. And the last one, this was more or less on agenda item 10, which was the architect and building envelope continuing services. Um, could you

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explain to what the bees score is and why they weren't scored? I believe it's CSI construction moisture consulting received a BES score and from all three selection committee members as opposed to a numerical score. Yeah, absolutely.

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So this uh contract was bid with architecture. Um there was a list of of scope of services as well as uh we allowed for um building envelope consultants um which is a specialized industry to submit um because it is uh

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intertwined in building design. Um so we wanted to give opportunity for those types of consultants uh to submit uh a bid. We do, the town does have a need for a specialized consultant for both design and um analysis of our existing

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structures. Um so we had one consultant that selected as a standalone building envelope services consultant and they were the um they were the only firm. So we selected them just based solely for building envelope services.

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>> All right. And my last question, relative to resolution 32-26, is it the plan to remove two of the contractors from that resolution? >> Uh, yes. If there are no other questions, um, which I'd be happy to

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answer if there are >> Well, let's go to the questions first and you address that later. >> Absolutely. >> I think my question is geared to what you're asking. >> Okay. Um so uh staff would like to recommend um the removal of two

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consultants from resolution 32-26 uh one of which uh Craig A Smith and Associates due to a conflict of interest and uh the other is Kimley Horn uh due to uh failure you know failure to reach

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an agreement for their fee schedule. Um the town did set a maximum multiplier um which is um uh it's a rate that is established by firms that is over their unbburdened um uh uh internal labor

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rates and um they uh Kimley Horn actually exceeded our threshold required in the contract um and for equity of other firms that that um several of the firms met the maximum of three. Um,

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unfortunately, Kimley Horn and the town could not reach an agreement. So, staff recommends the removal of uh Craig A. Smith and Kimley Horn from uh resolution 32-26 and to not award the contracts.

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I'll take a motion and a second to approve resolution 3226 awarding uh to uh two firms Co Pepper and Tarponing in Calvin Gardano and Associates well in

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actually >> there's three >> there's three in uh Chen Moore and Associates. >> I'll make a motion to approve. >> Second. >> Motion and second. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. Motion carries unanimously.

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Moving on to resolution 4626, which I believe has been your questions been answered. I'll take a motion on that. >> I make a motion to approve resolution 46-26. >> Second. >> Motion a second. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I.

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>> I. Motion carries unanimously. I believe you also pulled uh Did you pull 11? >> I pulled 11. Is that a question for staff? Just real quick, this um this this

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grant, how much is is this involved? Because we discussed the seaw wall at Sawfish. Is this part of that? >> No. No. This is a separate grant. We submitted the town submitted for two grants. one for the seaw wall okay

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>> redeeming project as well as the flushing >> um culvert and then this is a second grant that the first grant that you're asking about was for a 50/50 match for construction this grant is a 100% grant for the bay itself

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>> just for the bay itself it's going to be a study and okay cuz I didn't see anything mentioned about the wall the wall's all set correct >> no the wall we will be we did not get an award for the seaw wall we will be submitting Again, we um had a meeting with FDP on what we can do better and so

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we'll position ourselves um this coming up September for resubmetal. >> What heavy requirements did they want for that for the wall? >> Um for the wall they wanted to make sure that it was more naturebased and not maintenance. >> Oh, okay. And we can meet that.

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>> Yeah. Well, we're doing we're the plan is to incorporate living living um shoreline, >> right, >> to harden it as well as provide providing the seaw wall redeeming work that um we're working with engineering on.

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>> Okay. So, somehow the uh I know it's off this subject, but somehow the living shoreline is integrated into the wall at some point. Yes. Yeah. Okay. Yes. >> Interesting. Okay. That was it. Thank you. >> Take a motion and a second on approving resolution 5326. So moved.

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>> Second. >> Motion second. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. The motion carries unanimously. Uh moving on to resolution 5626. I think councelor Gisinger pulled that one.

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>> 5426. I'm sorry. Y >> support that interlocal agreement. I think it's a great opportunity for our fire personnel to work alongside the Palm Beach Gardens fire personnel. I had just a question and uh how does that work from an IL standpoint? How does

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Jupiter Fire Rescue participate in a ride along, you know, work with Palm Beach Gardens? Are they stationed with them overnight? Do they show up during the morning and just have an 8 or 12 hour shift? I just curious how that whole system works. So, well, first of all, Steve Shaw, deputy fire chief operations, Jupiter Fire Rescue. First

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of all, thank you for asking the question. and I'd love to come up here and have an opportunity to kind of just expand upon uh what we're doing, especially from the training aspect that we got coming up. It's so exciting. So, first of all, let me just start by celebrating our relationship with Palm Beach Gardens. They have been an absolutely phenomenal partner since I've

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been here for 2 years and since Chief Donado has been here, even before we got here, they've just been phenomenal. uh even now when we're meeting together in terms of talking tactics and strategies and just how they run their day-to-day operations and whatnot um just that that relationship is stellar. So we already

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have the ILA for training established and as you know uh during our training program coming up uh over the summertime uh we're going to be uh doing a lot of training using some of their facilities um and uh it's already in our our our calendar at this point. An expansion of that is this ride along program which

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gives us the ability to take a new firefighter and allow them to ride along somewhat similar to an EMT or a paramedic student would uh would do on their units to get a sense of the cadence of calls, how they respond to incidents, that tempo, uh how they respond on the radio, how they respond

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and operate their protocols and procedures and whatnot. Um for us, we just wanted to incorporate this inside the program if we wanted to use that. Uh you got to remember also that we're hiring a lot of people that are fresh out of school. They've never been uh uh into a fire department before. So

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they've never um experienced that shift culture. They're going to get a load of training from us and they're going to have a load of amazing opportunities to learn from some fantastic individuals, many of which you saw already here today. But we are not running calls as you know until October 1st. So, we thought this was a wonderful idea to

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have that ability to add along to the ILA to allow them to ride along with our partners in public gardens to get a glimpse of what that looks like in addition to their training program. So, the details of which could be uh during the daytime, during the evening time. There's a a variety of ways it could

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work. We just wanted to make sure that was part of this to get that opportunity if and when we needed to uh during the course of the training program. >> Yeah. My main interest was >> my main interest was exactly how does that work? and we say hey you're going to be assigned at Palm Beach Gardens for the day. You'll show up at 6:00 in the

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morning and work through 6 or whatever. So, and do a ride along. So, observational type training. So, >> yes, sir. Yes, sir. >> That's the way it works. Okay. >> Yes, sir. Yes, sir. >> All right. >> Have no further questions. >> I just want to comment about that. First of all, call me a naive optimist, but I still

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hope that the county uh allows us to do calls before September 30th. uh we won't give up until September 30th on that ask. Uh secondly, um you know, I remember Admirals Cove, who's a gated community

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who keeps records on who provides service, told us that the Gardens makes after the calls to Admiral's Cove. So, I was always delighted with this opportunity that you've you've pursued here for our

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own firefighters to go in. In fact, if they were at that station that serves, you know, Admiral's Cove, well, they'd be even going into Jupiter. How great could that be? Not just a ride along, but but within our very community. So, thank you for pursuing that.

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>> I'll take a motion in a second uh to approve 5426. >> I'll make a motion to approve uh resolution 54-26. >> Second. >> Motion and second. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. Motion carries unanimously.

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And then last of all, item 14, I think, pulled by >> Yeah, it was pulled by me. So, >> come on up, George. >> We're the only ones left. Uh, a couple questions on that. Um,

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we had four firms that we approved and and determined to be qualified, but only one chose to bid. Do we understand why we out three of them refused to bid this contract? Uh we had a tight timeline to get this

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project completed. Um our timeline is two months. Um as you heard uh chief earlier um the time is rapidly approaching for their operations to begin. Um so we have a pretty tight timeline. Um several of them um did not

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wish to pursue the project. Um so um we uh received the the price uh proposal from this firm um which is one of the selected contractors for this was for the three buildings we had building A, B

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and C and B and C are completed. >> Okay. What was the logic rationale went into how do we determine does is parson a low bid for this project? What information did you use in order to determine since the other three did not

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apply? So were you using now sole source one one contractor? So so they are considered the lowest responsive responsible bidder because they were the only ones that submitted um based on the specific request for proposal within this contract.

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>> So we've done business with them before. We understand their pricing. We think they're reasonable from a this is a $477,000. Yeah, we actually um requested a proposal from another contractor on uh from another contract, our general our

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general contracting continuing um construction contract and um the prices were um within reach within 5%. So um you know we you know we vetted them and the the pricing is is pretty accurate.

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>> Okay. All right. And the last question, um, as you know, we're we're in the process of purchasing a new facility at new commercial office building at 3126 Jupiter Park Drive. Um, could you just go through why these renovations are

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important for building A over at the public works and um and may not be suitable for putting anything else over like fire department logistics. Leave them at building A. Uh well, we've uh established a presence

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for fire rescue at the uh maintenance facility. Um this was the part of the original plan. They were actually supposed to be in building B. Um originally we've we've changed the scope around a little bit, but um we move public it was we felt um organizationally it was best for public

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works to move into building B and we can uh put our efforts into um renovating building A uh for fire. This is to serve the fire rescue logistics um to store their PPE and other uh pertinent uh equipment and supplies. Uh staff members

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will be there uh for for their operations. And um you know they already have a facility on site as well for their uh larger equipment. Um so um this is just um you know what we it was part

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of the strategic planning efforts um to um put the logistics at this location. >> Yeah. Maybe the chief can answer understood it's also potentially a safety and security um to have it at building a particularly if you're storing tanks and stuff of that nature there.

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>> Yes sir. There will be compressed gas cylinders uh and other equipment that's you know very necessary to be very secure uh especially uh in our medical equipment storage. So yes sir.

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>> Okay. All right. Thank you. Thank you. >> Also the security aspect that uh uh we alluded to was also at the public workshard if you've been out there which I think you have. Uh also there the they they have the fenced in areas out there along with gated you have to have a code

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to get in a gate in the evening. Uh so the security is is optimized by being in that location instead of the new facility at this time. >> Okay. Mayor I have no further comments. >> I'll take a motion in a second on approving resolution 6326.

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>> I'll make a motion to approve 63-26. >> Second. >> Motion second. All in favor signify by saying I. >> I. >> I. Motion carries unanimously. Moving on to reports. Town attorney. >> I have no uh real report. I did want to

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ask council if it wanted me to consider a public nuisance aspect with respect to that house that's being maintained in a way that is obviously offending an entire neighborhood. If that's something

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that you would like me to explore, we'll be happy to do that. >> I would say absolutely. Some of my colleagues may not realize how long that's gone on, but it's been going on for a long time. >> So, this is nothing new then. Okay. >> Mayor, is this the same house? I thought that that had the cat issue a couple

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years ago. >> Well, I'm not exactly sure, but it sure sounded like it >> because I thought that was in POS, but I might be mistaken. >> Mayor, if I could um a couple of things. Yeah, I'm glad to hear the county attorney bring that up because I was having some conversation with our deputy chief. We're going to we have a timeline

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of all the things that we've gone and done over this period of time. Yes, this is the house neighborhood that you're thinking of. >> We started to make some progress. We were not able to uh to get >> to the final conclusion that we wanted

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to there. Um it is a pretty frustrating process for people that live there, >> right? and for those involved. So we do have on our uh on our list to get the timeline done. Um make sure we know

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where we are with things meet. We have standing meeting with the town attorney on Friday mornings and to pursue that public nuisance um avenue. I think that's probably one of the last avenues we have left. Is that right, Deputy Chief?

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>> Yep. I think it's one of the last. >> Just a question. Can you not go with the public health this I mean feral cat cats that >> they've been there. >> Yeah. >> We we we've been doing this. >> Mhm. >> It's it's really just remarkable.

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>> Sounds terrible. >> Yep. >> Well, okay. Yeah. I'm in favor of that. So, >> so the answer was yes unanimously. Thank you. >> Uh town manager. >> Yes. Thank you, mayor. So, um I was

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going to start out with that cat situation and um and so that I've given you that update. Um just a couple of things from public uh comments tonight. Um we'll be following up on the issues that were brought forward, but I did want to

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speak just briefly about the banyan tree at the Sinquest Fire Station. that tree has been a priority for us and um and we have been monitoring and watching and doing everything that we need to do and that tree is in good shape with no

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issues and so um we'll continue to do that as well. I'll we'll look at that that uh flashing signal and see if there's something that can be done there. Also on the items that Mr. Rendina bought forward. Um I am working

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with the planning and zoning director. We're drafting a response. Um I could share some of the draft with you um until we get to the final um work uh after we get to the final product. So I'll I'll send the draft over to you and

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you can take a look at it. So and then um a couple of other things. Yesterday the town's um we continued with the town infrastructure project um and this next portion is um fixing sidewalks and

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repaving roads in Egret's Landing and we've already started that as construction crews started staging equipment. The project there is focused on replacing sidewalks damaged by tree roots and milling and overlaying the roads throughout the neighborhood. We're

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coordinating with the HOA and um and the town with the help of the Eager Landing property manager will actively engage the residents throughout the project and we'll provide weekly updates to residents through emails and flyers and obviously use our website to get that

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information out. It's going to be um a bit chaotic for them for a short period of time, but I think the end product will be well worth it. And just a couple of quick events for this week. First of all, on Monday, May 25th at 9:00 a.m., the town will host its annual Memorial

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Day ceremony at the Veterans Memorial in front of town hall. And then, uh, believe it or not, coming up Monday, June 1st at 10:00 a.m., uh, the town will host a ceremony in which our 90 operational firefighters will take the oath of office. The historic event will

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take place at the Maltz Theater. And, um, I was just working this afternoon. We spent a few hours putting the finishing touches on that. That's going to be quite remarkable. And then on Wednesday, June 3rd at 11:00 a.m., the town will host the uncoupling and pushin ceremony for the JFRD JFRD station

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number 10 located at Piatt Place. And um this is these are like traditional ribbon cutting ceremonies for new fire stations. As you participate in the ceremony, we'll we'll be explaining what all of it means and how it does it. It's actually it's actually really very

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interesting. And then finally on Thursday, June 4th, the town will hold the uncoupling and pushing ceremony for JFR sta JFRD station number 12 located adjacent to Sinquist Park. Um on the

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June 1st date, um we will have hired our fire department and we'll have it all set and ready to go. They're putting they're continuing down the final phases of training and we will deliver it. We will have delivered it 5 months early

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and on budget. And that's my report. Mayor, >> thank you. Uh, Vice Mayor, >> I want to say thank you. I really appreciate the citizens comments when they come in. Everyone has been

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productive, polite, respectful, and so much can get accomplished when they come and talk to us. I appreciate hearing the immediate feedback on both sides of this dis. Um I do wish El Soul

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so much success. I would maybe a a little bit tougher on the lease negotiation. However, I really do believe that they can make it happen. um real estate is it it it's tough but what they do in Elsoul I personally

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appreciate um their services and again I do refer to them as an economic search engine they do bring um wealth into the community whether we think it it's a huge amount or not um but I want to thank all of our fire staff it was great

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we had a lot of fun yesterday meeting as many as we could um and again I don't know What did you say, Councelor Gisinger? It was a minute and a half for each one. I don't know. >> He's got it down, but it was great. Um, and I'm I'm looking forward to all of

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the collaboration with our fire and our police department. Thank you. >> I'll just kind of piggy back on your elo comments. The um they've added an invaluable service to the town. Uh they cleaned up the mess on Center Street years ago. you know, it was something that the federal government issue with

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immigration screwed up. We had to kind of clean it up locally. So, um but we did start nudging them that they needed to move on at some point and I I understand the market. So, I just wanted, you know, um on get them on um uh on the public record that they are trying they're putting money aside. So,

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at some point and we always have, like the mayor mentioned, we have the out clause. We we can terminate the clause at any point, but you know, not too much pressure on it, but a little bit, but you know, enough. But, I I think they can get there. So, we we'll see how it goes, but they they've been a great service to the town and just a nice

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surprise tonight. Uh, Chief Donado having all the the the what is it? 30 36 frontline leaders in here tonight. That was just a pleasant surprise. So, it's coming together and it's coming in quick. So, keep it going. That's it. >> Councelor Gosinger.

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>> Yeah. Um, relative to the 36 new fire department personnel, I had the privilege to have lunch with them today. It was phenomenal. I also send a called up Stacy to thank her for inviting me to attend that. And on the way home and on the afternoon, I I thought about this a

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lot and I should have probably read it, but I went ahead and wrote out my remarks relative to those 36 individuals. I'm going to go ahead and read it if you don't mind and get it into the record, but I would like to congratulate the 36 fire department personnel, the new fire department personnel who recently joined the town

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of Jupiter. I recently had the privilege of meeting with each of the 12 captains, 12 lieutenants, 12 driver engineers over lunch and was truly impressed by their exceptional quality of these firefighters and the tremendous amount of experience, professionalism, and enthusiasm they bring to both the town

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and to their profession. The addition of these talented men and women strengthen an already outstanding department uh and positions the town well into the future. Residents can feel confident knowing that they are served by highly skilled professors who are prepared to respond in times of emergency with

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courage, compassion, and expertise. On behalf of the community, I extend my sincere appreciation and warm welcome to each of these new members. We are fortunate to have them serving our town and look forward to the positive impact they undoubtedly have make in the years

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to come. So, I spent a lot of time out today. I was really impressed meeting these folks and have a chance to sit and talk to them. I enjoyed it a lot. So, and that's all I have. So, >> so I got just a few quick items. Number one, um, regarding citizen comments, uh,

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if you didn't already know this, uh, I always watch in the back of the room because when I it's so many times when somebody gets done, I see a staff member go over ready to make contact either while they're still in the room or as they go out the door. So, this process

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really does work well. Um, I would say more because staff is so proactive than someone just speaking. So, I'm I'm grateful for that. Um, that doesn't go unnoticed up here. Secondly, with just regarded to the request of the last two

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people, uh uh you know, um reason I said it's up to staff to come back with us through the town manager is that I don't know the specifics and generally I think it comes to us anyway if the town manager believes it should come to us

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and uh and so you know I don't know really the specifics of the history on that but I do know one thing is We don't want staff to be working unnecessarily on something that we wouldn't approve, you know. So that's why, you know,

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keep that in mind. Whatever you wind up requesting, u because it is the case that if an upfront decision had to be made and we don't approve that, then staff would have been burning a lot of unnecessary hours. You know, I know I'm not telling

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you anything Mr. Kits wrote that you don't already know. So, I just wouldn't have said that on the record here. Right. Um, so, uh, any event, uh, then, um, I just want to make an a comment about consent agenda items. Um, and

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there's five of us up here and we can do what individually we want to do. And sometimes it's appropriate, I know some on the council will pull a consent agenda item to ask a question into the public record. And that's a good um that's a good effort. And I'm not I'm

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not singling at anybody here, but I would just ask as a general rule consent or items that staff believes there's a chance are just going to be voted in total. And I know we may be out of town or whatever, but I try to get questions

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ahead of time. And I'm not suggesting you can't call it up here, but I'm just saying we almost didn't have a consent agenda. And I just wanted to ask, you know, for the newer members, you may may not know that was the process is we do try to get questions answered. If if

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they're to our satisfaction and we don't think it's pertinent to the rest of the council, then, you know, that might eliminate as many being pulled. But again, each one of us has that right to pull consent agenda items. Um so then I

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just reminder you know next meeting I didn't want to do it tonight with a member missing but you know we've all either should have completed our performance review with the town manager and so next meeting we should expect to

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have conversation about very high level about that and then come to some determination on what we believe a annual compensation adjustment would be. So, I'd ask everybody to kind of come in with some with that in mind. Um, so we

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can coalesce about about something on that. And then just lastly, and I'm going to make a pitch here. Um, and I'm going to specifically target the vice mayor only because on this item, uh, you

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asked questions in line before I even got to them, and this is on the non-advalum fire attacks. you asked some questions uh that I thought were great and then I followed up and if you recall we learned

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that uh certain types of residential units uh the fee was not based on the same scope as as uh single family homes were and uh so you that came out in the

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public record here. Um, you asked it, I asked it, and we learned that. And, uh, so I just did just did dig a little bit deeper, and I just wanted to make sure, and I'm bringing this up just so you all understand before the public starts coming out because there's a letter that's going to show up in your mailbox.

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And then second meeting in June, we're going to have public hearing about this. But I I'm even more opposed to the nonadvalum fire attacks because I think it's in unequitable and unfair. And I just want to point out that so and again

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this came out from the first meeting single family homes it's total square footage including air condition garage porches entries everything well town homes and condominiums for some reason are different and that was told to us

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and some of this again I'm not finding fault with anybody here you know there's limitations that staff had with regard to what they could get from the property appraisers office. So they had this had to be worked out. But let me just tell

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you the town homes in Malowie Creek that have garages and porches, it's not included in the assessment. So the town home owners in Mallerie Creek are fortunate. They don't have a single family home because they'd pay a

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higher fee. The town homes in Greenwich in Aagoa. Likewise, I went and I pulled addresses and I looked what the fees are being charged for. You got a garage, porch, entry, you're not paying for that square footage. You're paying a lower

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fee than a single family home is. Oyola Woods, ditto. Um, Tiier Soul condo, ditto. um several of them I believe although it isn't finalized yet that uh uh

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cornerstone condominium. So it it just is patently unfair that the council would assess a non-anvalorum assessment fee that treats some residential properties

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significantly different and charges them more. In addition to that, I have the issue about how it's a escalating fee on per square foot. But just fundamentally on this, I just wanted to make sure you all had opportunity to think about this before

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the public hearing comes up because I'm going to be more and more vocal about this. I can't support an unfair fee, right? Where look, and I asked a question and I knew I wouldn't get an answer from our fire departments uh outside of this meeting and I want to put them on the spot. Is there any

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reason why a garage in a town home has no fire risk, but it does in a single family home? Well, no. How about a porch? No. You know, same thing in condos? No. You know, there's no reason for it. I'm just saying I'm answering that as an engineer, right? Um and so

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therein, you know, it's a disparity. Uh I don't get and um in fact, I would think a town home is greater risk in condo. First of all, they're elevated and closer together and whatever. And so separation you think would help but uh but that's the way it was presented. And

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if we me remember we asked the question and the way this process works is we couldn't change anything when it came to us. It's take it or leave it. And so again I'm not finding any fault of staff on this. It is what it is. But we can't

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change it. And that's why I'm going to continue to vote no. And if people show up here asking about the fee, I'm going to make sure they understand it's unfair and I'm going to keep fighting opposing it. You come back next year and make a fair one, right? But you can't you can't

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be inconsistent about it. And uh so with that time is now uh 9:08 and I'll adjourn the Okay.

