Good evening. It's Thursday, 11/20/2025, and the time is 5PM. This is the regular monthly board meeting of the Keller ISD board of trustees. All trustees are present with the exception of doctor Ranklev, who is in transit, slowed down by traffic and the weather. I'm sure we can all appreciate that. We will recognize him as president when he arrives. Ready for the pledges. Bryce. Please rise for the Pledge of Allegiance. Here to lead us in the pledge is from the outstanding students from Kellard Collegiate
Academy. Immediately following the pledge is interim principal Josh Boyd will come to the podium and introduce his students. I pledge allegiance to the flag of The United States Of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Honor the Texas flag, I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible. Good evening. I'm proud to introduce the, Keller Collegiate Academy students you see standing in front of
you. They represent all grade levels at KCA and serve in various officer positions, whether in STUCO, NHS, HOSA, or many of them both. At the end of the semester, these 12 students will have earned a combined three eighty college credit hours during their careers at KCA. Thank you. Yes. This achievement is a testament to the grit, determination, and drive demonstrated by our students and our staff each and every day. Students, when I call your name, please give us a big, huge wave. Isabelle Augustine, Nithya Chennapati, Emily Grigsby, Ariana Jacob, Garima Joshi, Adrianna McGee, Morgan Moses, Brianna
Nguyen, Aditi Paddar, Haley Rios, Fadija Siddiqui, and Briley Thomas. Thank you. We'll now move into a word of prayer, vice president Washington. Heavenly Father, thank you for bringing us out here safe this evening. I pray that we listen and learn and make decisions that are in the best interest of our school district, our staff, and our families. In your name, we pray. Amen. Thank you. Awards. Bryce. In the board packet, you'll find student and staff achievements on pages three through five.
Photos will be taken directly following each award inside the boardroom in front of the backdrop in the Southwest corner, where our board members will join award recipients for a quick photo. During this time, we ask that guests remain in the seating area and we invite you to take any personal photos out in the courtyard following the awards portion of the agenda, or in the lobby, I guess. It's kind of rainy tonight. All group photos taken inside the border will be shared via the Keller ISD Facebook page. For our first award tonight, I'd like to invite Secretary Campbell to help us honor our latest Hard at Work Employee of the Month. This month's recipient was nominated for the many ways he shows heart and connects with
his students. His nomination said, Mr. Diego is truly special, and his genuine heart for our special students shines through in everything that he does. Recently, when some classroom supplies and reinforcers were needed early one morning, he took the initiative to coordinate with a colleague and make sure everything was ready without being asked and without anything expected in return. On another occasion, he noticed a student creating a drawing and immediately recognized the character she was illustrating. His ability to connect with her in that moment completely lit up her face. He even took extra time to sit and draw with her, later bringing in a
ukulele to play the show's theme song together. These thoughtful, spontaneous gestures may seem small, but they make an enormous impact on our students, helping them feel seen, valued, and excited to connect with others. Thank you, Mr. Diego, for always showing such compassion and dedication to our kids. Ladies and gentlemen, please let me congratulate our November 2025 Keller ISD Hard at Work Employer of the Month from North Riverside Elementary Resource Inclusion Aid, Diego Garcia. We appreciate everyone who has taken the time to nominate a coworker and allow us the opportunity to share their stories.
Keep them coming. You can nominate a colleague for Hard at Work Employee of the Month by visiting www.kellerisd.net/haw and completing the youth.heart online form. At this time, I'd like to ask Trustee Coburn Ford to celebrate our latest HR staff recognition. Tomorrow, we will be celebrating National Substitute Teacher Appreciation Day. We are excited to honor one of the many dedicated substitutes who make a meaningful difference in KISD. Tonight, we're proud to recognize Bella Ter Margherian as this month's RBFCU Substitute Spotlight winner.
Bella received a record breaking number of nominations from teachers and staff, but we would like to share one of the nominations from Liberty Elementary's Ms. Jenny Gibbs, who shared, Bella is always willing to help in any classroom and the students adore her. Teachers love and trust her knowing their students are well cared for when they are away. Please join us in congratulating Bella on this well deserved recognition. And we're grateful for all of our substitute teachers throughout Keller ISD and we hope everyone will join us in showing their appreciation on National Substitute Teacher Appreciation Day tomorrow. Congratulations again, Bella.
For our next award, may I please have Doctor. Wilson and Trustee Erickson come forward to help us recognize our latest Keller ISD Star Educator Award winner. This month's recipient is a fifth grade science teacher at Trinity Meadows Intermediate School. He was nominated by his principal, Sydney Braemer, who shared the following. Mister Maglehut stands out for his extraordinary creativity in bringing science to life. In one memorable lesson on the concept of force, he transformed his classroom into a glow in the dark physics lab. Under black lights, students used fluorescent ink, car ramps, and other interactive materials to explore
motion and energy in real time. This immersive experience didn't just capture their attention, it deepened their understanding by turning abstract ideas into hands on discovery. Mr. Maglehut's innovative teaching style sparks curiosity, inspires learning, and empowers students to see science in motion. Let's learn a little bit more about this, our winner and this month's video. I'm a kid at heart, and I was thinking this year is like, what can I do to really make the lesson even more fun, but also make them to where they wanna work really hard at the same time?
And I was like, let's do black lights. The kids, when they write with pencil, yeah, they're into it. But as soon as you turn the lights off and have black light and all this stuff glow, it's like a whole new world for them, and they're talking and laughing and then just enjoying it. Now we actually do it with three d printed cars and three d printed ladders to where they actually get to touch everything, move everything, and they are learning how to actually set up an experiment themselves today for the first time. It makes me feel excited. He, does fun things like the labs.
I have a partner. He makes it fun with partners. Normally, labs aren't that fun. So when I come here, whenever I see it, I'm like, wow. Amazing. Mister Mad the Hat is, like, really funny, really outgoing. You can kinda tell by his classroom. I always look forward to coming because, like, when I come in here, I'm like, well, something quay quay is probably gonna happen because it happened yesterday. I'm excited about the lesson, so I hope the kids are. And that's kinda my goal with every lesson. If I'm excited about doing it, I'm pretty sure they're gonna be excited about doing it because I'm thinking like a kid when I'm setting up these lessons.
You may not actually go on to be a scientist. I didn't go to school to be a teacher, but here I am loving every second of it because someone actually took the time to do that for me. And I hope that I'm doing that for you no matter what career you actually choose in life. Please help me congratulate this month's Keller C student educator award winner, Trinity Meadows Intermediate School science teacher, JJ Magalhaet. Through his creativity, Mr. Maglevutt transforms classrooms into places of discovery and joy, and we are honored to recognize his outstanding dedication to teaching excellence. As a winner, he will also receive $500 to spend on his classroom.
Congratulations. I'd next like to invite Board President Burt to come forward to help us recognize a remarkable international athletic achievement. Kellen High School senior Cole Keninger recently returned home from Akwana, Japan after a once in a lifetime experience. As a member of Team USA at the twenty twenty five World Baseball Softball Confederation under eighteen Baseball World Cup. Kininger contributed to the team's gold medal victory on an international stage. The United States secured the championship on September 14 with a two-zero victory over Japan, marking their eleventh world title in the tournament's history.
During the tournament, Kanninja made three relief appearances maintaining a zero point zero zero ERA while allowing only one hit over three innings. He pitched a scoreless inning in the tournament opener against Japan on September 5, striking out one batter. And on September 13 in the Super, Super's round finale against Puerto Rico, he got the final three outs. Ladies and gentlemen, please help me congratulate Keller High School senior and Team USA gold medalist, Cole Kinninger. Cole plays shortstop and pitcher for Keller High School, but he is also committed to continuing his baseball career at the University of Tennessee after graduation.
Congratulations again, Cole, on this incredible achievement. And finally this evening, may I please have Board Secretary, Mr. Campbell's already come up, sorry, Vice President Washington come forward, and, to join assistant director of athletics, Bart Helsley, as we recognize our latest star state cross country athletes and coaches. And then trustee Kelly, would you please join us at the photo backdrop? Good evening. We're here to celebrate cross country state achievement for KHS and TCHS. Keller ISD cross country athletes from Timber Creek High School and Keller High School represented the district at the UIL state cross country meet after earning their spots with outstanding
performances at the region one meet in Lubbock. Timber Creek senior, Bess Davis, advanced individually after placing twelfth overall and ninth among runners not qualifying with the team. The Keller High girls team secured the final state qualifying spot with a fourth place regional finish, and the Keller boys placed second at the regional meet. These runners capped off an outstanding season with commendable efforts at the state meet, which took place on November 1 at Old Settlers Park in Round Rock. So when I call your name, y'all come on up.
First of all, Timber Creek High School, Bess Davis. And Bess was coached by Brian Cooper. Keller girls, the entire team is here this evening, I believe. And first of all, Julia Graves. Sarah Darnell. Victoria Pace, Remy Sandlin, Peyton Ringlib, Quinn Bonneau, and Muni Desiram.
Now for the Keller High boys team, Boston Bowcutt, Anthony Abeda. Keith Shiflett. Austin Bodo, Cade Swan, Ethan Wilson, and William Washington.
And the Keller cross country coaches are head coach Justin Gretzinger, assistant coach Samantha Roth, and assistant coach Theane Barnett. Thank you. Yes. It is. Alright. We'll now, move into president's update. First of all, thank you all for being here and for watching online. Keller ISD remains a destination for excellence and it's demonstrated every day from our students, our educators, various staff members, substitute teachers, and parent volunteers.
And this includes all those that have passionate viewpoints and take the time to reach out and express them. I wanna recognize the Keller Education Foundation who recently wrapped up its twenty twenty five grants giving tour delivering more than a $136,000 to educators across all four feeder patterns. Thank you, Keller Education Foundation, for all you do. I also wanna recognize mister Max Muncy, a former baseball player here who graduated from
Keller High School in 2009. He recently celebrated his third World Series victory this year, all with the Los Angeles Dodgers. Congratulations, Max. I encourage everyone to check out the news and events section on the district website for what's been happening in your Keller ISD. And and lastly, attending his last board meeting, I wanna recognize doctor Kevin Hood. After thirty years of service, doctor Hood is retiring and, currently is the assistant superintendent
of elementary education. We wish you the best on behalf of the board, and thanks for all your years of service. Doctor Wilson. So Kevin, should I just pick up where he left off? I would also like to thank Doctor Hood. Doctor Hood and I were principals together in the district in 2005, 2006, sometime a long, long time ago. And we've been colleagues and friends since then, so I appreciate all he's done for the district and, for me personally and, we're gonna miss you, but just know that
he will be close and we can always bring him back in some capacity, whenever we need him. So thank you Doctor Hood. I'd also like to introduce, a new employee as we have one headed out. We have an employee that is joining us this evening. So Mrs. Pam Strannathan, if you would like to stand up and so everybody can see who you are. This is Pam Strannathan. She is joining us as our chief financial officer. So welcome to Keller and we are so excited to have you here. Alright, so just a couple updates this evening.
One of them starts with, it's November, which means it's time for budget conversations. And so we will be giving we will begin having our preliminary conversations on the 2627 budget, here soon. Unfortunately, we do expect revenue to remain relatively flat, which means that we are back in the same position we have been the past couple years. We are going to need to find efficiencies to offset those cost increases, due to normal year over year inflation, and then just escalator con escalator cost, embedded in existing
contracts. So this begins with reviewing all of our current programming. Now with the with the timeline surrounding one particular campus, which is KCA, we need to take a look at we're gonna have to review all of our programs. It starts with KCA because they have enrollment that starts here pretty quick. Unfortunately we've been unable to realize the vision we set out for this campus many years ago. Originally the students were able to choose from four different associate's degrees as well as a level two certification of vocational nursing.
The goal is to build upon these and even offer additional associates degree options as KCA was built out. Unfortunately, due to declining enrollment, the lack of safe funding and the need to continue identifying budget efficiencies, this wasn't possible. Please know however that this does not mean a decision has been made to eliminate KCA. But we do need to take careful look at the cost and how it fits in to our financial future. I would also add that regardless, regardless of our review and regardless of the financial
standing that we find, that we analyze, we do have every intent of allowing all of our current KCA students to continue the program and complete and graduate, as we promised. We have also received several questions about the sale of three different properties that we have up. We have begun marketing those here in the past couple weeks. As I've shared with all of you going back to last year, to ensure the district financial standing is strong, we have to begin rebuilding our fund balance.
I would love to have large amounts of cash at the end of the year, due to excess state revenue to do that, but it's just not gonna happen. We fully intend to invest in our fund balance and rebuild that each year with what we have left in our general revenue, but we have to offset those costs every year and we have to do our best to increase compensation for our teachers and staff within that general revenue budget as well. This means we have to look at other ways to build back up our fund balance including selling land we don't need.
Remember, a couple different things. TEA has told us our fund balance is too low and we need to increase it. We've shared that with all of you. If we want the best rates on a on a potential bond in the future, we have to increase our fund balance. And we need to ensure that each August before we receive our our payment from TEA, we have the necessary cash flow. Selling property helps us do those things. I also wanna assure you that the market will determine the final price of each property. We do intend to maximize our profits, and I don't want anybody to think differently.
But know that that money would not end up back in our general budget. It's not going to be used to balance a budget, it's going to be used to supplement our fund balance. The three properties that we currently have for sale, one is the old Florence Elementary site. There are four, a little over four acres over there. Interestingly the interest is strong so they've actually raised the price per acre on that particular property. There's also a little over 20 acres right behind, the tennis courts at Keller High School. That is another property that, that is that has been we've had quite a few
inquiries about. The challenge there is just with a developer who wants to come in and develop it, it it remember it takes a lot of money to develop because you're building the infrastructure but then also there are restrictions in how large those lots can be. And so there are a couple things working there. And then finally we have the Basswood property, over obviously in the by the Basswood Elementary School. And so those three are for sale, that I would tell you it would, we
are we would not be in our due we would not be doing our due diligence excuse me? Oh, yes. We would not be doing our due diligence had we not if we do not look at these on a continuous basis. We have to do that because that only makes sense. We are also looking at the 110 acres off of Golden Triangle. We're exploring a couple different options with that. One is an outright sale and then also as we've shared a potential land lease
that would bring revenue back to our general operating budget, for the next however long we want to. Could be up to ninety nine years if that's what we want to do. So there are those things out there. And finally, I wanna share an email that I received last week. Doctor Wilson, my name is Marvin Pritchett, a retired chief master sergeant in the United States Air Force. This morning I had the privilege of attending the Veterans Base Assembly at Lone Star Elementary as a guest of my granddaughter. Words cannot fully express my gratitude to principal Maddie and the Lone Star staff for
the incredible display of respect and reverence for our armed services. The ceremony was a beautiful tribute. Every detail from the presentation of colors to the singing of each service's song reflected genuine care and thoughtfulness. The sounding of Taps was especially moving and deeply appreciated. I've served for twenty seven years in both the active duty and reserve components of the Air Force, rising to the highest enlisted rank before retiring in 2023. For the most of my career, I considered my service simply as a job I
was paid to do, rarely reflecting on its broader significance. Today's Veterans Day Assembly offered a fresh perspective. It reminded me just how much our military service means to others. I am sincerely grateful for the renewed sense of pride in the Supreme Court this experience has given me as I continue my journey as a veteran. I want to commend Principal Maddie and their staff for nurturing the spirit of patriotism, reverence, manners, and respect within the student body of Lone Star Elementary. I was truly impressed by how engaged every student was throughout the program.
In a world where headlines about schools can sometimes be discouraging, being part of today's ceremony gave me immense confidence that these students are in caring and capable hands. Thank you for providing such a memorable and uplifting experience. So I want to thank Chief Pritchett for sharing this with me. I also want to thank, Lone Star Elementary and all of the other campuses who hosted Veterans Days Assemblies for a job well done. Thank you. Can I ask a couple questions just to clarify? I wanna echo. On the Veterans Day, I went to several campuses that day.
There were fabulous ceremonies and it was great to see all the families together, so I love that we're able to do that. On the property piece, can can you just clarify what the process is? It is up right now, but it will come to a vote to the board in the future before anything is done. Yes, ma'am. So when when we market the property, any potential sale, once we feel like we have an offer, a good offer, then we would go for appraisal and then we would bring that offer back to you all. You would have to take any action. We would not execute that. We we cannot execute that, without without more approval.
Thank you. And then the other thing is just on KCA. I appreciate the update. I know we've all been getting emails and hearing from families. It's a lot to take in though. So can you just repeat about the current students, what your intention is for them in the future? Yeah. There's there's no we want to fulfill, we made a commitment to the kids and we want to see it through. And so, regardless I think the conversations about, what are some changes that we could do moving forward to offset costs? Some of those may make future classes viable, some of them may not, and that's
a conversation we need to have. But it's about future classes, it's not about current classes. I can just echo that as well. Doctor Wilson, thank you so much for touching on those points because there was, a lot of clamoring in the community just wondering on these things. So we appreciate your your transparency on that and bringing that to the community tonight. Thank you. So I would add on that. I met with the staff the other day. I had the conversation with them on, I think, Monday or Tuesday. And then I've also communicated out with, one particular parent, then I think December 4.
I'm gonna go and and visit and answer any questions that that, that the parents may have as well and kind of walk them through the process and what we're looking at. So. Thank you, doctor Wilson. As we begin the rest of our meeting, I'd like to highlight the school board meeting protocol. Any violations to these expectations could result in the request to be removed from the meeting. No signs are allowed as this presents a safety concern. Applause, heckling, booing, and verbal disturbances of any kind will not be allowed or tolerated
during the meeting. Please refrain from side conversations during the meeting as it serves as a distraction. Attacks of a personal nature and name calling against district staff and board members will not be tolerated. Members of the public will not be allowed to approach or walk in front of the dias at any time during a meeting unless invited to do so. We'll move to the audience with individuals. Today we had 30 individuals, sign up to speak. The business of the board begins with audience with individuals. This portion of the meeting is specifically for members of the public to address the
board. Your input is encouraged and will always be thoughtfully considered. Please address your comments to the board as a whole rather than to the audience or any individual. Trustees may not respond to audience questions or inquiries. Specific complaints or grievances against an individual should be addressed through the grievance process and not in this venue. We expect everyone to act civilly and with respect. Individuals who wanted to speak were required to sign up before the meeting began. Pursuant to board policy BED local, the amount of time each speaker receives may be
adjusted for effective meeting management. Tonight, each individual will have one minute to address the board. A timer will be visible on the screen and will change color to indicate that you have thirty seconds remaining. Each speaker will be speaking from the stand alone microphone to your left. In order for speakers to hear when they are called and to be heard, we ask the audience members remain quiet and respectful of everyone. Bryce will be calling each individual up to speak as well as the individual who will be coming up next so you can make your way to the microphone and
be ready when it's your turn. I do wanna thank and I wanna, call out, vice president Washington and trustee Erickson for the idea of letting speakers know before it's time to speak just how much time they're gonna have. And if you'll notice, we posted those, on the board. Survey is not thrashing around at the last minute, especially for the first couple of speakers that are trying to condense a three minute, conversation, to a two or one minute. So, anyway, thank you both for for that suggestion.
Bryce, would you please call the speakers to the microphone to speak? First, we have Stuart Rennie followed by Gabrielle Gordon. One minute. You know, I should skip meetings on the regular if it encourage you to say the stupid stuff out loud. I mean, trying to justify extending your term six months in order to give you a pay masters a better deal. Now, obviously, if it lets them get another year's worth of destroying public education that they've already invested in, but what's your incentive to do it? I guess we'll have to dig into contracts and payments when we finally punt the ramp. Oh, and we'll have to watch where you go and who you work for.
Tim Davis has already moved on, slithering from here to try to buy his way in the talent GOP chair role with those funds you contributed, and he's now sucking at the State Board of Education t two. Funnily enough, he's doing this because he's running out of ways to hide his trail here. So you rumpers might wanna consider your post board future when stuff comes out. I understand Irish and German passports are all the rage. Meanwhile, the Jesus Wing continues its hate speech, and while I encourage you speaking to the supreme deity of your choice, Gabrielle Gordon followed by Richard Gallagher.
Good evening. My name is Gabrielle Gordon. I live in unincorporated Tarrant County, and I've been a resident for over thirty years. My daughter graduated from Central High School in 2012. There's been talk about changing the dates and the months when we're going to vote for trustees, and, I would like to keep the, elections for May in for the May dates for, 2026, '27, and '28. And then we would begin, November in, we switch over to November in 2029.
I like the idea of staying where we're at on May for right now and then switching over to 2029 And I appreciate the board for giving us the opportunity to speak and I encourage people to, residents to take the time to come and speak at meetings. Thank you. Richard Godleyburn followed by Eric Crile. How's it going? Before I start, I just wanna say I'm running out of time. So I hope you all have a wonderful Thanksgiving, and thanks for being here. I didn't want that to get cut off. I sent you all a couple of emails.
I really appreciate trustee Kelly for asking the public their opinion on things. When it comes to the mascots, I just have to say we have more pressing matters than that in our district. If we're going to do something like start a GoFundMe for our district, where we obviously need more funds, maybe we should look at things like teachers who haven't had AC in their classroom for forty nine plus days. They commented on some of your posts. I feel like that would be a better use of funds. Maybe we should go back to grade one. One of the takes in grade one around personal financial literacy is making choices between
wants and needs. The mascots is a great thing to change. I understand bringing that unity, it's a want, not a need. AC in the state of Texas, when it comes to being indoors for students, that's a need, not a want. Thank you all. Eric Crile followed by Laura Romano. Laura Romano followed by Frederick Gay. For the past three years, we have listened to this district plead poverty as we have lost programs and teachers. And now you're asking us to consider rebranding all the mascots with no details about cost or timeline. Another solution says to, quote, prioritize community funds when available, quote, but this does not
address a glaringly obvious problem. What happens when the community funds are not sufficient? My kids are proud, independence Mavericks. They love showing their Maverick pride and that means something to them. To ask them abruptly to change mascots is asinine, ridiculous, and foolish. I would say it's the worst potential spending of money by this board, but we just gave another blank check to Tim Davis two months ago. It is endless crusade against his contractual obligations. Please stop wasting our money on fearless ideas like this when we have much bigger problems to solve. Please stop trying to take away something that is so special from all of our children. And finally, for those in the community who has constantly turned model Keller Lake Southlake
Southlake, will you please just do us a favor and move to Southlake and and leave our Keller ISD, Keller. Thank you. Frederick Gay followed by Rachel Jenkins. Good evening. I'm speaking today as a parent of two kids in the district, a homeowner, and a taxpayer. First, the resolution homogenizing mascots is a childish proposal which leeches attention from everything this district needs to be focused on. There's a mountain of evidence across all forums that the community at large does not support this effort. As a result, the bond proposal to be put forth in the coming months is already being undermined by the very persons entrusted to oversee the district's finances.
With several board members already under state investigation for official misconduct, enacting this policy change would be a flabbergasting act of hubris. Finally, moving trustee elections to November. The arguments in favor of keeping him the mayor are understandable, but I'm personally in favor of the move provided it does not occur during the current term of any sitting board member. Any vote tonight in favor of this change condones the theft of time and authority from the voters of this district. Thank you. Rachel Jenkins followed by Michelle Shipper. Okay. First, mascot. So you have an opportunity to have a win win situation here.
Add verbiage to your resolution to ban district funds and add verbiage that campuses may opt out. That's all you have to do to make both sides of the communities happy. Two, elections. Extending your terms by six months cheapens the value of democracy. We elected you for three years. It was on the ballot three years. Listen. You can have another win win situation here by simply moving elections to November in the year of 2029. That would give the community the responsibility and the right to elect leaders for three and a half year terms. Mister Bert and mister Coker, I'd like you guys to remember what it's like in
Austin, how we got three minutes to talk about what was important to us, and both of you complained about how difficult it was. Can you please just listen to the community? If you don't wanna listen to us, please resign. We don't really want you anyway. I also had to highly suspect that two people got to speak about mascots last month, and it's on the agenda. Twice the past this month, while trustee Campbell and Ericsson have asked for months for RFQ for legal services. It's not on the agenda. Michelle Shippen followed by April Shiflett. Hi. I'm a special ed teacher in the district. Special ed teachers are leaving in droves.
There's no one coming to replace them. We have classrooms being run by subs and paras, and that just puts more work on the rest of us. This is our most vulnerable population of students, and I don't feel like anyone is speaking up for them. We don't have enough support, we don't have enough resources, we have to fight for everything our students need. When I first came to Keller in 2013, it was the mecca of school districts and now people apologize to me. And regardless of who you want to blame for that, this is where we are. You need to seriously think about recruiting teachers, ways to recruit teachers. We've lost k well.
We've lost our remote workdays, all these things. Our insurance is going up and our raise is going away. So I want you to seriously think about looking at four day weeks with the teachers only working the fifth day once per month. Other school nurses have done this with success. Get out to campuses and ask teachers what they need. We are the ones keeping this sinking ship afloat. I had a parent email last week call us miracle workers. We are trying to do that. We cannot pour from an empty cup. Thank you for your time. April Shiflett followed by Nikki Perez. Hi, y'all. I'm April Shiflett. I'm a mother of three at Keller High.
Some of y'all want this, mascot alignment real bad. You didn't you weren't able to split us to make us more like Southlake, so this is the next thing. Your envy is palpable, and frankly, you're embarrassing us in front of our neighbors. But to make this make sense, you have to change the verbiage in the resolution. Lots of people have said it. Mascot realignment for the Falcon and Indian feeders will rely solely on community and donated funds, or the district pledges not to use any taxpayer money. Put it in the resolution. Y'all are threatening to close KCA. There's kids over here crying and you're gonna talk about painting an Indian on stuff.
Get real. Nicky Perez followed by Landon Massey. Landon Massey followed by Lindsey Koulages. Lindsay? Sorry. Lindsay Collegius? Oh, oops. Is this Landon? Okay. Awesome. Good evening, board. My name is Landon, and I'm a Keller resident in the 76262 ZIP code and a parent of a KISD student. I fully support the completion of the rebranding process for the remaining KISD feeder patterns. I wanna start out by acknowledging that the budget crisis is real, and I do understand that major budget cuts of some kind are coming. Every district is dealing with this problem. And as a former administrator and educator, I hate seeing what is happening in amazing
districts in the metroplex. But a budget deficit is also the issue the district is currently facing. And if we don't continue to figure out how to fix it, it's going to continue. We cannot forget about the future of Keller ISD. Making budget cuts of any kind is an unfortunate immediate fix, but how do we avoid this problem in ten to five years? So why are we so why not get behind this, initiative and increase the fear of pattern pride and sense of community and get and keep kids in Keller ISD? I asked the board to allow us to finish what the district has already started based on the resolution.
Creating a sense of community might not be able to be quantified, but it can make an impact. Thank you. Lindsay Carligis followed by Catherine Woods. Catherine Woods followed by Matthew Mucker. I agree with Fred, Rachel, and April. I express my concern over board priorities. Keller ISD is facing tough financial challenges. Our financial score is a C and we have ongoing funding issues. Yet resources and board energy are being spent on mascot changes at more than 20 schools, a project that feels like a distraction and a luxury that we cannot afford now. Tonight the bond committee appointments should be approved so they can get to work, but
this is after being delayed for a month. We urgently need infrastructure repairs not mascot updates. Voters who have complained about past bonds will not support approving more money be spent in a wasteful district. If communities want mascot changes let them fund it privately not with district money. On elections, I oppose moving all board races to November national elections. Voters deserve time to thoughtfully research local issues. If this change happens, a gradual transition respects the voters' original three year terms. That is what we elected you for. Respect that. And lastly requests for basic transparency like agenda items on legal services RFQs have been
ignored while mascot changes move quickly. Please get your priorities straight and focus on what truly matters our students, staff, and financial stability. Matthew Mucker followed by Eve Shiflett. So I think the mascot thing has been covered. David Frum is a conservative political commentator. He was a speechwriter for President George Bush. He's a senior editor at the Atlantic. One of the sayings that of his that, that I'm familiar with, somewhat paraphrased is, if conservatives decide that they cannot be elected democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will abandon democracy.
And when I look at tonight's agenda and the, the the item to to move the elections to November, this is what I see. I see, a board that is split four three and a majority who realizes that they are incredibly unpopular with the public, who realizes that they can't survive a reelection campaign. So rather than change policies to be in alignment with the community, they're just gonna change the rules and give themselves six more months in their seats because that's the
only way they can win. Lee Shiflett followed by Nick Trasiak. Okay. So firstly, on the speaking minutes, yes. Thank you for notifying us, like, thirty minutes earlier, which can't keep petting our speaking time just because there's something controversial. The whole point is to listen to us. Nine g, moving to term things, that's great. Please don't do it during, like, during y'all's terms. That's weird. It looks like you're just trying to kinda scrape some more months out of a position that it looks like well, if the president says anything, it looks like you're going to lose. And focusing on nine h here, this is the mascot thing. It's already controversial even if it was free.
At at the the Kellogg Comanches at Kellogg Middle School, we used to make fun of the central kids because the central or the Hillwood Chargers is lame. Hillwood Huskies is way cooler. These individual mascots are part of the culture of each individual school and make them all the same kind of washes that away. It's it's fun to be different. But then also we have to waste people's money to do this, which makes it, kind of indefinitely dumber. And once again, I'd like to remind you, a poll, Chelsea Kelly posted on her Facebook. Right now, I think it's at 94% saying no on this. Big Trasiak followed by Brian King. Trustees, raise your hand if you're elected to a three and a half year term.
Exactly. None of you. Hence, why there should not be an item on the agenda tonight that does just that. A support room to the elections to November, but an error that does not violate the current duration of your term. Furthermore, trustees, I've seen this evening there's an action item on school mascots. No serious person would bring such an item that should be tabled and referred to committee. Furthermore, trustee Campbell and Erickson have requested an RFQ on all legal services for the district. Mister Burt, how come that does not make the agenda tonight, but mascot still? We see a few months back we saw a few months back a dumpster fire of a health care proposal come across the dais and was swiftly rejected.
This RFQ for legal services should be on next month's agenda. There's many people in the district who would like to see us move on from mister Davis. Just check the most recent election result. And, mister Burt, you told me a number of months ago you're happy to be here and do the business of the district. Well, sir, do it. Brian King followed by Don Lydic. Good evening. Tonight, we have a chance to do something simple yet powerful. Give every child in the feeder pattern one shared mascot from kindergarten through senior year. The fact that it won't cost the district and will save the district money in the long run is a great idea. A single mascot doesn't erase campus traditions, but it builds a bigger, stronger one.
Our youngest students walk into school already feeling like Chargers or Indians. Some of them already wear the same colors as their high schoolers they admire. When they finally reach the campus, they aren't strangers wearing new colors. They're coming home. Also, support moving the elections in November to increase voter participation. And if members in this community would stop suing the district, we could save money. Thank you. Dawn Lydic followed by Jake Wilson. Hello. I'm Dawn Lydic. I am a mother of a recent graduate of Fossil Ridge High School who is now on a full ride at TCU studying geology.
I'm also a former substitute teacher at Vista Ridge Middle School and KCA where I was also an avid tutor. The mascot issue. When we were in seventh grade, we were the Vista Ridge Lions. In the eighth grade, we became the Vista Ridge Panthers. It was good. We loved all being the same, but it was expensive and they have still not changed everything over and it's been five years. This is not the time to put in money for a mascot issue when we have issues with teachers pay and benefits. Almost everybody I worked with at Vista Ridge four years ago has left that school,
has left the district. One teacher I talked to recently went to Birdville where they got an $8,000 a year raise and two planning periods. We have AC issues, we have lawyer fees, and KCA is one of the things that makes this district excellent. It is so short sighted to get rid of a program that serves so many. Jake Wilson followed by Lupe Hodges. Good evening and happy Thanksgiving. My name is Jake Wilson and I support the Senate Bill 11 policy. My wife and I have been residents of Keller ISD for five years and we
live in the Fossil Ridge part of the district. This meeting tonight is a historical moment, with Keller ISD being the first Texas district to pass a Senate Bill 11 policy in section nine c of the agenda. Other districts will see what Keller ISD does as they consider drafting their own policy, and then what Texas is able to do, other states can learn from Texas how they can expand Bible and prayer in their schools. Our schools are not God free zones, our schools, God is the creator of all things, including education itself, and God is the one who holds the breath of every
student and every person in this room in his hands. Therefore, daily opportunities for structured learning about our creator should be available, not only to students whose parents have the money for private school or homeschool, but to all students whose parents consent. Thank you for supporting this policy. Libby Hodges followed by Olivia Hodges. First, I'd like to say that our children and employees are not efficiencies. They are people and calling them that is disrespectful. Talks of closing Color Collegiate Academy has created ongoing instability for students who deserve far better. These young people have invested years of effort into a program that promised academic rigor,
opportunity, and a supportive community. Instead, they have repeatedly been met with confusion, disruption, and disregard. It is imperative that our students currently enrolled be allowed to complete their high school careers without further upheaval, forcing them back to their home campuses, places where many no longer have connections, support systems, or a sense of belonging is not just misguided, it is cruel. These students deserve continuity, respect, and the ability to finish the path they began. They also deserve more than being placed in isolated rooms to take online courses as as a substitute for the in person instruction they were promised.
As a former KCA teacher and a parent, I can attest that the school was built on collaboration, community, and high quality teaching. Students deserve to not be stripped of that. Olivia Hodges followed by Ashley Filoque. I was lost. It was either fossil or central, two places I wouldn't survive in. Coming from a college school, I didn't wanna go from that small environment to somewhere where fights break out every day, hall jams, hall jams caused by fights. At KCA, I've never been worried about getting jumped, getting shot, getting assaulted in any
way. I've never even felt like I couldn't reach out for help. KCA and the opportunities it provides are worth so much more than y'all understand. We're not just a bunch of smart kids at a smart school. We're kids who want a chance at a free degree, kids who struggle and need personal attention from teachers. And speaking of teachers, you're hurting them. Women and men who rely on the job for income, you're taking people from their friends and their jobs because why? You're taking kids chance at life at a future school because why? Have you ever stopped to consider us as people not just a hole in your
pocket? KCA is a place of educational excellence and I would rather not be an Indian. I hated becoming a Charger. Ashley Fidoki followed by Fiona Campbell. Ashley? Fiona Campbell followed by Delana Hamburg Borsanti. KCA is the only school in Keller ISD to receive all seven TEA distinctions. Despite this, the board wants to potentially close our school. KCA students have exist consistently exceeded expectations. The proposed changes could lead to cuts of KCA's already small staff with only Of teachers. KCA has the most successful host host host a chapter in this district, but running
organizations is not possible if we do not have staff. You have created an environment that attracts some of the most academically driven students in this district and potentially sabotage their future. The students in TAF are tired of being your underdogs. Because you have changed the conditions from which the majority of these students have entered this high school, we should be given a choice. However, because the majority of classes at KCA are dual credit classes, we are trapped in a school because we are not competitive in GPA and other high schools. According to SB eleven ninety one, dual credit classes must have the same weighting as
AP classes on our GPA. Give us a legal GPA and give us a fair choice. Delana Hamberg Barsanti followed by Anushka Girish. Missus Hamberg Barsanti, we received your submission to speak during the audience within the visuals portion of this evening's meeting. In preparing the list for speakers moving forward, the board has directed us to strictly enforce that speakers include the topic on which they will play to speak to ensure that the topic is related to the district or the board business. In that field, you put opinions. We want to be sure you are given the opportunity to address the board, so
please resubmit or answer to this email. Thank you and please let us know if you have any questions. So instead of talking about RFQs or the ridiculousness of moving elections to November or let's put a pause on the mascots, I'm standing here defending my first amendment right to free speech. In your SV local, it says that I don't have to hit share or have a specific topic when addressing this board. It is my God given right to address this board with any topic I see
fit. Anushka Girish followed by Bernard Guerrero. Hello. My name is Anushka and I'm here to talk about KCA. KCA has been running successfully for the last five years. And during these years, we have acquired seven distinctions and have the most successful hosted chapter in the district. As the board has now stated about the possibility of facing our KCA, I would like to talk about the implications of it. This will mean the loss of nearly all students led clubs and our staff that we couldn't have, would mean the remaining students of KCA without the support and opportunities they deserve. The optimum option would be to maintain status quo. However, if the board is adamant on facing our KCA, then then the very least
you could do is implement the SP eleven ninety one bill, which states that dual credit and AP classes should be waived the same in terms of GPA and rank calculation. This should be implemented at the end of the 2526 school year so that KC students that are leaving would be able to fully fully compete with their peers at other high schools. Thank you. Bernard Guerrero followed by Brianna Nguyen. Hi. I'm here to speak on the push to unify mascots and branding across the district's feeder patterns. I get the sentiment. Giving kids a sense of identity and continuity is a worthwhile goal. But let's be blunt.
People are suffering out there right now. Their business is closing in this town and there's an affordability crisis. Nobody is clamoring for higher taxes or waste. Board member Coker even said at the last meeting that he can, in good conscience, support budgets that don't bring down tax rates and it's what his constituents are demanding. It's a bold statement and I applauded it then, which brings us to this branding project. If anyone here truly wants to claim the title of fiscal through a fiscal conservative, this is the easiest test you will ever face. Pledge publicly that not one penny of taxpayer money will be spent on it.
Five hood boosters want new mascots and logos? Wonderful. Let them foot the bill. Needs over nice to haves. So fiscal conservatism is more than a campaign season slogan. Tweet out your pledge before you vote. Thank you. Brianna Winn followed by Stacy Zachster. Good evening. My name is Brianna, a junior at KCA, one one of the many students directly impacted by the proposed shutdown. KCL has been one of the few things in this district that consistently work. We've raised college readiness stats, complete certifications, and boost the success numbers, proudly advertise on every flyer and website. And the fact that the board is quietly considering shutting down the program that produces
the user is deeply disappointing. What hurts most is how casual our futures are being tossed aside. Families plan about this academy, yet instead of transparency, we are left with venues while decisions will be without us. Our grades were affected, but juniors are hit the hardest. We've built schedules around TCC courses instead of APs and locked in GPAs on a six point zero scale. If the board's intent changes, moving us back to our home campuses now will be academically devastating. We are advocating for ourselves as the stitches as this district teaches us to do. Our features, our work, and commitments made to us should matter.
Closing KCA isn't just a choice. It's just business that dedication students have shown. Thank you. Stacy Zaxter followed by Ryan Wells. Hi, everyone. My name is Stacy Zaxter, a junior at Keller Collegiate Academy. I'm here because KCA's future and ours is at risk. We've already adopted when our old building closed. Now plans to cut staff and limit KCA to juniors and seniors do not prepare us to succeed. It sets us up to fail. NHS, our student led clubs, and HOSA, the district's most successful chapter, cannot thrive without the teachers you plan to remove.
You can't claim to support student success while dismantling the very programs that create it. Shrinking KCA threatens all GPAs and class ranks. Dual credit is weighted less at zone schools, so transferring will directly harm our futures. SB eleven ninety one requires student dual credit to be graded like AP. Recalculating GPAs isn't a courtesy. It's the bare minimum. KCA is the only school in Keller ISD to receive seven DBA distinctions. We bring in CTE and CCMR funding, which the district only receives when seniors graduate.
We are not a burden. We are an asset. Families deserve transparency. Ryan Wells followed by Cade Hewitt. Ryan Wells. Kate Hewitt. Hello. My name is Kate Hewitt. I am a junior at k at Color Collegiate Academy. As part of the Keller Collegiate Student Body, I have been there since my eighth grade year and have been doing as much work as any of the other students. We have done our absolute best over the last five years to do good and over the last two to adapt to all the changes that this board and district has made for us, Whether it be our original school building closing or many of
our teachers being cut and us being forced to have a small campus inside of KCAL, we've done our best to adapt. So just trying to phase this out is completely irrelevant. Many students have family members that are planning to go here or have family members that are already on track to go here. Just accounting for our sophomores and freshmen, it's unfair to them. Many of them have just signed up or have already been going through this program for one to two years, So just not allowing them to graduate along with the juniors and current seniors is unfair to them because they have put in as much work as everyone else.
Thank you. Thank you. I would like to, make two two announcements real quick. I would like to recognize that doctor, Ratcliffe joined the board at approximately five fifty, and then I've been asked by a couple of, trustees, and I think we might all share in that, to build in a recess, time. So after, our third action item, we'll take about a ten minute recess so they can, plan accordingly. Thank you. So we'll now move into, consent agenda.
Do I have a motion? Motion made. Miss Washington? Second. Mr. Campbell? Any discussion? Hearing none, all in favor? All opposed? Thank you. Seven zero. Our first action item is the approval of the 2026, 2027 staff development minutes waiver. Miss Price. Excuse me, yes. This is an annual action item that we bring to the board of trustees. TEA offers a staff development waiver that allows us to count our professional development days
as part of our instructional minutes, for up to two thousand one hundred minutes. The administration recommends that the board of trustees approve the staff development waiver minutes for the twenty twenty six, twenty twenty seven school year as presented. Do I have a motion? So moved. And second? I'll second it. Any discussion? Hearing none, all in favor? All opposed? Thank you. Seven zero. Our second action item is a consideration and approval of a resolution regarding casting the votes for the Tarrant County Appraisal District.
The board may cast 102 votes for candidates for the Tarrant Appraisal District Board of Directors. The nominees are mister Mike Alfred, miss Wendy Burgess, mister Eric Srelli, and miss Syeda Syed. I am recommending the board cast make a motion recommending the board cast its 102 votes for mister Mike Alfred. Do I have a motion? So moved. Do I have a second? Second. I have a discussion. Yes, I'd like to make a motion that we cast our votes for mister Krill.
All in 102? Yes. Alright, we have another motion or an amendment to the motion to, put all 102 votes towards mister Eric Cirilli. Krill. I think it's Krill. Krill. I believe this is where you say it. Krill. Krill. Krill. I'm sorry. Sorry about that. All in favor of the amendment? We have we have a second on No. I'm sorry. Do we have a second? I will second. Okay. Sorry. Do we have any discussion? Oh, that was interesting.
I didn't expect that we're gonna hear that tonight. Okay. So last last year whenever we cast our votes, I don't exactly remember the exact amount of votes that we had last year, but we put all of them towards Mike Alfred. And, so I know that Mike is a supporter of, appraising our homes every two years. And since this has come out, there has been some worry about what that will
do to not only homeowners, kind of as a rubber band effect, what's gonna happen in a couple years, whenever they do finally reappraise, but also there's some concern for what this means for school districts financing in their m and o and I and s side. So, I actually wanted to ask, doctor Allison if he could chime in on this. I wanna know, if there's any implications that we know of currently with having the
appraisals performed every two years to our budget financing? Yes, ma'am. There there is an impact. Some of it has to do with the state, property value study And as we set the tax rate every year, we talk about the maximum compressed rate. And the state study, compares to local property taxes. And if we are outside of, the state percentages, we do have a two year
grace period before we see the, the impact to, what would happen with our MCR, which means the state will reduce their funding because as they view it, the, school district or the county is not contributing an appropriate share for funding education. It also impacts us as we take a look at, in particular, our INS tax
ratio because it's we have to levy enough to cover our debt. And when appraisals lag and that growth in appraisals, only occurs every other year, there is the potential that you would have to raise an I and S rate to be able to meet your your your debt. There are some other implications. Most of them occur in the outlying years from the time this was adopted. So year one isn't as as impactful.
Year two, year three, year four is when we see the the greater risk to how it would impact our funding and our potential tax rates. Thank you, doctor Allison. So that that's one thing that I've heard with the two year appraisal. It's it worries me if we are going to put our votes, towards someone who is in favor of keeping two year appraisals, especially when there is lack of understanding of what that's gonna look like for our, INS and MNO.
And I think it would be irresponsible for us to do that. So, I actually was going to suggest just because I know, now hearing that, there's a motion on the table for, half of our or I'm sorry, for votes to go to Alfred, mister Alfred, and then half of our or I'm sorry. Another motion on the table for Krile to get all of the one zero two. I would actually suggest and, make a motion that we would give half to Alfred and half to Krile.
So that's And we're gonna have three motions at the same time. That'll be fine. Okay. It'll be fine. Alright. So I make a motion. So so so you have a motion. Do we have a second for Chelsea's motion From from missus Kelly's motion. Are you are you running a school board meeting now? No, sir. Just just ask me. Well, actually, I'm not. Do we have a do we have a a second for, miss Chelsea's Kelly's motion to split the vote between mister Crile and mister Alfred?
Okay. Here hearing none. No second on that one. Then we'll revert back to the motion by miss Erickson to put all 102 votes towards, mister Crile. Well, I wanna I wanna comment on that discussion. So I spoke with three of the the TAD board members whenever this topic first came up. And, I know there's a lot of concern because I also spoke to mister Allison about it as well. And remember there there are also two positions on that board that are elected directly by the public. And what they were hearing from their constituents who got elected directly by votes from
the public was this was what was being asked for by the public. So they were doing what the public asked them to do. And I understand it because the idea was is to help have some sort of relief on rising property taxes over a year to people in the community. So I'd I'd had discussions with them about mister Allison's concerns and really many districts, concerns at that time. And, all three of them told me the same thing. They said they're they're responding to the will of the people. They understand what the people are wanting. But if it cut if there is a district that comes to a point where
it seems like, it's going to affect them negatively from a financial perspective, they have the latitude to then request an appraisal to solve that problem. I've been assured by them that that is what they would do, and I have every faith that they would if it comes to it because they don't wanna hurt the people that they're supporting them. So, voting for Mike doesn't concern me in that way. I'd like to speak in support of missus Erickson's motion. I've I've been very impressed with mister Crile. He's been here twice to speak to us and I received an email from him,
which also impressed me quite a bit. He he addressed some issues which I think are germane to us as school board trustees. I've highlighted a few things here. He says I believe in local control. We should aim to solve our problems locally. Yearly appraisals allow the homestead exemption to function as designed. I think that's a very good point. And I know the reappraisal plan is currently implemented, could impact your bond capacity, to mister Allison's point. And your ability to finance or refinance lower rate in the future, thereby costing tax payers more interest.
So, again I'm quite impressed with Mr. Krile. I think he aligns with what we would what I would see, beneficial to us as a school board. So I I would, be inclined to support miss Erickson's motion. I just wanted to say that, Chris, thank you for saying that you talked to them. I think that's helpful, but I am tired of this board making decisions and supporting people who are not advocating for public education. Our job is as a school district to advocate for and access the funds that we need to do our jobs and to support our teachers, our educators, our administrators,
and our students across this district. So anyone who has taken votes that have said that it might put in danger our funding, I think we don't need to keep supporting. We need to bring in new people who will support public education, and that's why I would like to see us back a different person this time. And based upon what I just said, would he need you to believe that he would do anything to affect public education funding. In fact, he said the exact opposite of that. Well, his actions in passing the two year process speak otherwise. So that's great that he told you that in private, but the actions show that
he has put it in jeopardy, and now it's a potential risk. So I think we just Everything's a potential risk. The the reality is Well, everything is, but we don't need to make it easier. The reality is if they're want if they're willing to make adjustments and go to appraisal to not affect public education, that's not showing a disenfranchisement of public education. It's showing the protection of taxpayers with the willingness to also protect public education. I have not heard anybody from the TAD board say that if the district randomly wants to have its own appraisal because it's worried about its funding, that they will
do it. So that that is news to me. And you said you're I didn't speak to Mike personally. No. But I I spoke to other, TAB board members. But, so thank you for asking. But, so that's news to me. So, I I would love to to hear from TAD if that's actually something that that can happen. Unfortunately, we don't have them here tonight, but that's fine. I think one of the other things that we're missing is that we actually had legislation in the eighty ninth legislator that came out. It was s b nine seventy two, and this was actually created to stop the
every two year appraisal cycle. And so if it's catching the eye of legislators down in in Austin, I think the reason why is because this could be a detriment to not only, again, the homeowners because obviously who doesn't want a tax break? We all do want a tax break. The problem is we want the big shiny things and we don't want to pay for it. But unfortunately whenever we, whenever this was brought about and it was going to be every two year appraisals, the problem is is that at the end of those two years, your your there is a cap on the increase on what your house value
can increase to every single year. So the the cap is 5%. Well, if you're getting an appraisal every two years, at the end of that two years, you've had two years go by, so that's now 10% increase. So, yeah, it it looks like it's saving you money for those two years until you get that next tax bill and it's it's called the rubber band effect or, you know, taxpayer shock. And so, again, it's a cart before the horse. It's driving without a compass. And, again, I I can't corroborate whether or not he said that we can just
pull appraisals because we're we're worried about our finances. But, according to everything else that I'm seeing, I I don't think it's, asinine to ask to, you know, if someone on our board would like to give their votes to Alfred and someone on our board would like to give their votes to Quile, why not just split it? Plus, another benefit, just so you guys know, I don't know if you know this, Chris, maybe you can answer me that you do know this. But if for some reason and I'm gonna totally speak in hypotheticals here. Let's say for some reason that, Wendy Burgess gets on and we have no votes
for Wendy Burgess, we then have no recall voice for Wendy Burgess. So another, incentive to split some of our votes, at least even one to each person, is that whoever gets on this board, we would then have an actual voice in a recall process if needed. Even though it's very rare, I I wouldn't want to, to not give ourselves that opportunity. So that that's just another another thought. Okay. I'll make a motion, to give a 119 votes to Mike and one to Kyle.
But we don't have a 119 votes. We only have a hundred Two hundred and twenty. 19 to Mike and one to Kyle. We only have a 102. So one zero one to mic and one to Kyle. Then we have the recall voice. So we got a a fourth motion. I need some help. So we have a fourth we have a motion. We don't have a second for mister Ford motion. We need a second. Hearing none, number number four goes down. We've already talked about number three. President Burt, can I ask a quick question? So, mister Allison, did we not meet with the chief appraiser last year when this
came up? We did. Yeah. And and what did what did I guess, you know, without going into too much detail about that conversation, because I think this kinda piggybacks on what, mister Coker here is talking about. I mean, so when we had that conversation with him, did he speak to the fact that if districts started to fall out of compliance that they'd be willing to begin they would they would be willing to evaluate what the what the TAD board was attempting to roll out at the time or had rolled out at the time? As I recall, that conversation, he referred to no districts currently being in grace and
or or out of grace and that if a district fell out of grace, there would be further conversation. Okay. I I don't recall a guarantee that there would be a change, but that there would be conversation as as districts came close to falling out of grace. Do you know many districts that have fell out of grace? I don't I I I don't know that. I haven't compared, any of the other districts to see where they they fell in the, PBS study compared to their, TAD appraisal. Would it be fair to fair to say that, if districts did fall out of
grace, you probably would have heard about it? I don't know. You don't know? I mean, it's possible that that those districts, since it's a two year window, again, most of us are focusing on our our situations, not the other. But, no, I have not not heard that any other district has fallen out of grace. Just falling out of grace would be kind of a big deal. Right? Depending on the school district and and their their tax ratio. Yes. Yes. We probably would have heard about it. Yeah. Well, and I I don't I I understand the falling out of grace with not
being able to, report properly to the state, state withholding funds, falling out of grace in in that regard. But, I mean, Fort Worth ISD literally had a $21,000,000 difference, because of the holding down of values and properties. So, I mean, it greatly affects districts and that is straight from TAD. So, also Casselberry, I heard they're funding with the state as well. So I I think we need to take a long hard look at, who we're
putting on this TAD board and instead of just rubber stamping it. So I recall the same, conversation Doctor. Ranklitz that you brought up and we met with, I think, Mr. Bobbitt, the TAD chairman, and his assistant, and, it was a pretty a pretty good, in my recollection, overwhelming, yes, if you fall out of grace.