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i am making this announcement in compliance with the open public meetings act chapter 231 public law 1975 laws of the state of New Jersey the burough clerk has prepared a schedule of the meetings of the governing body of the bureau of Kennorth for the year 2025 the
burough clerk has posted a true copy of the schedule on the bulletin board located at the front entrance of Brown Hall and has mailed true copies of the schedule to the local source in the store ledger and is maintaining a copy of the schedule in her office during the year
2025 accordingly the notice requirements of the open public meetings act have been satisfied in regard to this meeting please stand for the salute to the flag to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it
stands one nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for all [Music] mayor Carage here councilman Bo here councilman Festra here councilman Jano
here councilman Laur here councilman Piper here and Councilman Scur here you have four minutes okay i'd like to uh approve the minutes of um March 19 2025 motion second motion made by Councilman
Fenista seconded by Counciloman Gioano Pasano councilman Bole yes councilman Festa yes councilman Janero yes councilman Mororrow yes councilman Piper yes councilman Spice yes okay this is a very exciting evening
here uh tonight in Kennoworth uh at this time I'd like to take the liberty of moving resolution 25-104 the Kennaworth police promotions up for consideration whereas the Bureau of Kennorth County Union Save New Jersey finds it both necessary and appropriate
to promote certain police officers serving with the Kennorth Police Department a promotional process was conducted in accordance with chapter 39-10 of the burough code and the public safety committee and the chief police chief conducted interviews of all
interested candidates now therefore be it resolved that the mayor and council of the Burough of Kennorth County of Union State of New Jersey hereby promote to serve as captain with the Burrow of Kennorth Police Department Lieutenant Edward Pastor to serve as Lieutenant
with the Burrow of the Kennorth Police Department Sergeant Kenneth Grainy Jr to serve as Sergeant of with the Burrow of the Kennorth Police Department patrolman Detective Anthony Tanks is there a motion to approve a resolution 25-104
motion second second motion made by Councilman Phyis Spinstroa seconded by Councilwoman Geodano Pero councilman Bole yes councilman Finestrella yes councilman Grodano Perno yes councilman War yes councilman Piper yes councilman
Sces yes motion passes okay at this time it is my honor to uh administer the oath of offices um we'll start with Sergeant Anthony Tanks [Music]
[Music] i Anthony Tangs I Anthony Tangs do solemnly swear do solemnly swear that I will support the Constitution that I will support the Constitution of the United States of the United States and bear true faith and bear true faith and
allegiance and allegiance to the same to the same and to the covenants and to the covenants established established in the United States in the United States and in this state and in this state under the authority of the people under the authority of the people I do further
solemnly swear I do further solemnly swear that I will faithfully that I will faithfully and partially and partially and justly and justly perform the duties of perform the duties of Kennallorth Police Department Sergeant kenn department sergeant according according
to the best of my ability according to the best of my ability so help me God so help me God [Music] congratulations congratulations [Music]
[Music] congratulations [Music] ready two keep it short and sweet i know my friends in the back are uh probably a
little thirsty um I just wanted to thank uh the police committee the council the mayor for this opportunity i grew up in this town uh it's an honor to continue to serve and especially my new role um I'm really looking forward to it i also
want to thank my family for being here my fellow officers officers from surrounding towns that I've come to know and even may grew up with my fellow officers from Union County Emergency Response Team thank you for coming and that's it thanks a lot guys
[Music] it's a little tight [Music] i Kenneth Grady I Kenneth Grady Junior Junior do solemnly swear do solely swear that I will support I will support the Constitution the Constitution of the
United States of the United States and bear true faith true faith and allegiance allegiance to the same to the same and to the governments established to the governments established in the United States of the United States and in this state in this state under the authority under the authority of the
people of the people i do further solemnly swear I do further solemnly swear that I will faithfully I do faithfully impartially and partially and justly and justly perform the duties of perform the duties of Kennorth Police Department Lieutenant Penorth Police
Department Lieutenant according to the best of liability according to the best of liability so helping God so congratulations Congratulations thank you there's so outside [Music] [Music]
[Music] for pictures congratulations um like thankf for all his support over the years uh mayor council police committee for this opportunity also my hometown I'm very proud to ser our hometown uh family for
being here tonight of course you're here uh and all the support of readers and all my friends and co-workers thank [Music] [Applause] you next we have Captain Faster [Music]
i Edward Pastor I Edward Pastor do solemnly swear do solemnly swear that I will support that I will support the Constitution the Constitution of the United States of the United States and bear true faith and bear true faith and allegiance and allegiance to the same to the same and to the governments
established and to the governments established in the United States in the United States and in this state and in this state under the authority of of the people under the authority of the people i do further I do further solemnly swear solemnly swear I will faithfully I will faithfully impartially impartially and
justly and justly perform the duties of perform the duties of Canorth Police Department captain Kennaworth Police Department captain according to the best of my ability according to the best of my ability so help me God so help me God congratulations [Music]
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go ahead um like the other two candidates today uh that got promoted congratulations to both of them uh thank you mayor council police chief um police committee everybody for putting your faith in me uh every department um in order to be a success needs solid
leadership uh we have a great police chief that cares cares for Kennorth like nobody else I've ever ever seen i'd like to think I'm a close second and and I'm right there with him uh and that's why I wholeheartedly believe that that we're going to be a great team and we're going
to we're going to guide you guys in the back that are all here in support um the right way and we're moving in the right direction for counter it's all about counter um my family my friends my colleagues thank you for all being here congratulations to you guys that that
got promoted today and uh I couldn't be more happy uh than I am right now so thank you Mayor just want to take this opportunity to thank the mayor the council the police committee for uh once again putting their faith they're not supporting us
with our promotions uh we're going to continue to do what we do serve Kworth in the best way we can kennorth first our hearts are in this town everybody that was promoted has a root in Kennorth and uh I'd like to just say thank you again and uh thank you congratulations
to everybody that's for us some of you guys play the world more than others but congratulations [Music] it's a big All [Music] right [Applause]
you need another one i'm sure Yeah heat i signed yellow sign thank you yeah heat
heat heat i think it looks better from TV too it's better i mean it looks nice i never knew there was a little something yeah it was actually Yeah I guess somehow we decided
I didn't decide decided not to be I mean it it is a lot better to have a camera speaking or speaking right now what do you think what if we could have maybe people come
to the side and then like let's say I wonder why can't you set up and then do I don't
know when you watch the video online all you see is the back whoever it is but I I think this worth having a conversation all right I'm going to
go everybody uh finance report yeah moving on to you Billy sure so let me uh slowly not like I normally do um and as the last few meetings uh the finance committee has been meeting and
discussing the 2025 budget with our CFO and our business administrator the CFO and the business administrator have then been discussing the borrow's budget issues with our various departments our finance committee was determined to make various cuts and increases to revenue to provide this year's budget within the
appropriations cap and 2% levy cap we had to cut over 285,000 to get under the appropriation cap and had to cut appropriations andor increase revenues by almost 824,000 to get under the tax cap level
excuse me the tax levy cap at the onset of the budget process to achieve our goals of being under the caps our committee was very concerned that the municipal tax increase was projected to be over $343 for the average house as a reminder the average house is something that is
assessed at about $185,000 okay the finance committee CFO and business administrator would like to thank all of the department heads for working together and for the residents of Kennorth to present this budget which is both under both caps and reduce the
forecasted tax increase to $143.86 for that average house this was done without reducing any services as well as facing some other unforeseen obstacles that we would needed to overcome the obstacles were the borrow's net valuation and something that
happened with the uh the governor's speech that may have been misinterpreted uh the borrow's net valuation has decre decreased again this year the total decrease from 2024 to 2025 was about $2 million
$2,486 uh,000 this is uh roughly an impact of $136 as an increase for that average home after the governor's budget speech the borrow anticipate a level of state aid to be at $1 million uh $1,88,000 however the governor is
removing the municipal relief fund aid which is a loss of [Music] $103,000 the total of this uh loss of state aid as well as the increase uh on the average house will increase the average house estimate by
$24.78 these two items total $37.84 which is already factored into that $143 increase this is a significant cut to the rate of increases we've seen over the prior years and again I'd like to thank all the department heads our CFO and burough administrator for
getting us to this point uh lastly on the budget schedule itself a public hearing and adoption of the budget is scheduled for May 7th 2025 happy to take Ken any questions from the council up here good job good job thank you to to the the finance
committee and Ken and I think this is the earliest that we've introduced the budget that I can remember i can remember so good good job to everyone [Music] ken good job yeah good job good job
okay so we don't know the rest of the the county levy and all that school levy yet do we know county at all county will never release anything to us until after they adopt so I believe they're adopting their meeting in May also so uh and the
board I had early contact with but I didn't hear anything back so I'm sure they're I know they're going through tough times too okay we're doing our part trying at least do you know if the school aid was cut again i heard it was aid to the school was cut did that
is that true uh they lost uh initially I thought they had an increase but same situation the additional aid they got back dropped down again so they had a decrease also i heard a loss of 275,000 is that accurate okay thank you
okay no other questions okay department of Public Works councilman Borrow thank you Mayor um there will be a document shredding event at Blackrook Park on Wednesday April 9th from 8:30 a.m to 1:15 i'm assuming in the parking lot right
correct yes and DPW will be assisting yeah um the DPW is currently compiling data for recycling ton t tonnage activity throughout 2024 um annual reporting to trend this data assist us in qualifying for recycling
grants to subsidize funding on ongoing recycling resources and services to the community recently it was reported to us that Kennorth will be receiving a check for I mean a grant $11,64 from Trenton this year for
recycling activities compiled in 2022 during March of 2025 the department incurred the following time off 176 sick sick hours 9.25 on the job injury hours 16 personal hours and 40 bereavement
hours during March of 2025 the department incurred 165.26 hours of overtime out of that time 63.75 hours of overtime was attributed to responding to emergencies uh recurring bills for March
have not yet been received that's all I have thank you [Music] Councilman department of Public Safety Councilman Finestrella thank you Mayor uh for the month of March uh the Kennorth Police Department responded to
1,155 calls for service and 182 911 calls there were 183 hours of overtime for the month consisting of 137 hours for scheduled patrol overtime 12 hours for dispatch overtime 31 hours SWAT call
outs detective bureau investigations had zero hours and detective bureau call outs had zero hours t police department completed 181 hours of training for the month including arrive firearms usert SWAT and various
other classes police Department issued 167 traffic summones and had 15 arrests for the month there were five sick days used and one sick occurrence there were zero on the job
injuries a message from the chief the Kennorth Police Department is requesting everyone to take their time driving and please stop for pedestrians trying to crosswalks safer driving starts with our own residents please keep get in touch
with Kennorth Police Department to respond a complaint or nuisance to report nuisance the nice weather also brings out crime ensure your vehicles are locked and nothing of value is left out in the open as this entices actors
to attempt to enter your vehicle um and hopefully I've been told in the spring that the radar um the stationary permanent one should be installed so looking forward to that uh the mobile one was there and they removed it i have
seen that uh light flashing meaning they've been going way over speed limit so hopefully uh this will deter them that's all I have thank you Councilman planning and zoning councilman Scree thank you mayor um if you haven't
noticed that the building department is moving next door to the building uh also known as the rec center they're trading basically office space at the board of health and it's going along very fine there's like zero downtime um thanks to the great work
from our DPW um making this a very smooth transition and we're all in and much gratitude for their help and assistance uh zoning department has been busy so far in March we have 17 applications for uh the normal like ACS
and generators um we have new business coming in to Kennaworth on uh it's called RoofMax i don't know if you guys saw it at the commercials it's going to be on Oils Drive only complaints for March or zero uh code enforcement complaints four two
for fences on front property uh complaints they were investigated and found to have been placed over 10 years ago and had permits one complaint for fence will be issued notice of violation and one complaint for driveway uh they did with no permit they got a issue of
violation and uh that's all I have to report what was that business that was on Hoy Drive says here um Roof Max i think there if I seen a commercial they spray Roof Max yeah if I if I'm correct
I I think it's a company they spray like um something on your roof to um extend the life of your roof instead of replacing it right away if I if I recall the commercial correctly look it up okay thank you Councilman uh recreation and
fire councilman Piper thank you Mayor as you know it's always quiet over the winter with Wreck but now it's springtime so the middle school sports programs are now in full swing with games and meets starting this week the summer camp registrations will be open
to the Kennaworth residents starting this Friday April 4th and to the general public on May 4th full details will be sent out via email direct fa Facebook post and they will be available on a burough website the Easter egg hunt will be held
on Saturday April 13th it is for ages ranging from toddlers through fourth grade toddlers must be able to walk on their own and as always the KFP will be escorting Easter Bunny to the event and the horn will be blown to start the hunt promptly at 10:00 a.m so be sure to
arrive no later than 9:45 to receive your hunt bag to get your designated hunt areas for your children the rain date for the for this event is Sunday April 19th at the same time information has been emailed and posted on Facebook as well as the Burough website your
registrations are required for community pass so keep your eye out for upcoming crafts and summer events that will be emailed to posted on the counterwork rec Facebook page as well as on the burrow website please remember registrations are required for all wreck events programs and activities if you do not
have a community pass account please be sure to create one and register for in the know to get updates on all things the wreck will have coming up the uh monthly report for the fire department in March is during the month
of March the fire department responded to 38 calls during these incidents the fire department traveled 99.5 miles and utilized 152.5 man hours the fire department rescue squad responded to 30 calls traveling 314 miles and utilized
120 man hours during the month of March the fire department and rescue squad completed 181.5 hours of training and the additional manh hours utilized include uh administrative 268 stipened
1,32 and the rescue squad administration 15 so the total calls for the month are 68 total miles traveled are 413.5 and total manh hours 239 that's all I have thank you
councilman I have one thing um the you count the rain day is Saturday the 19th sunday the 20th is Easter right the 20th is Easter right saturday yes yes health Education and Welfare councilwoman Gardano Perno thank you
mayor uh the library has um their traditional ongoing infant through adult programs um however they have some really great special events april 8th Tuesday April 8th at 6:30 they have a um
author reading her book The Meow Brothers Find a Home and also a special meet and greet with the animal shelter um program from Newark that's at 6:30 p.m i urge um everyone to take a moment
to go over there it should be a great event with both of those um things going on registration is not required there is a healthy cooking class for children Thursday April 17th 4 to 5 o'clock and
that you do need to register for call the library 908276 to 451 that's for ages 5 through 8 on Thursday April 24th 7 till 8:00 p.m ages 4 to adult they're having meet the
teacup piggies and they will have little what I used to call little pygmies but they're tiny little cute little creatures but I urge everybody to register for that event as well 908-2762451 their calendar is very full
with a lot of great events from infants to adults so I urge all our residents to um go on every month and see what's happening the senior center has three really fabulous events coming up friday April 4th there's a cooking demo at
11:30 it's understanding nutritional facts and understanding how to read the label on all of our packaging that's at 11:30 a.m wednesday April 9th there's a um little kind of meet and greet with
our library at 1:00 with Cass Kathy Saki she is a library employee and um is going to talk to the seniors about everything library a lot of um items that they could be doing there and tasks
and what the library has to offer and then on Tuesday April 22nd Heather Kizner will be returning again to the community center at 11:30 um talking about downsizing and decluttering which a lot of our seniors
are doing as they move either into an apartment or a smaller home and she's offering that um guidance the board of education filmed today every 15 minutes which is a crash simulation with our
students um depicting what unfortunately could happen if you're driving impaired uh that was filmed today on the corner of Cross and Washington on uh next week on Tuesday
April 10th i believe that's the 10th yes at 9:00 a.m they're going to show the film that they created today it's a very emotional very moving film um and I I I
don't know if guests outside of the students and family are involved it is yeah it's it's worth seeing it's a very moving and insightful experience uh the next meeting for the board of ed
is April 14th at that meeting I'll make sure I get the details on the budget and the state aid status and bring it back to our council meeting that Wednesday and the last um is the health department
as Sevino said the building department and health department have flip-flop building department is all their stuff is down there today they were organizing and getting their desks up and moving we even had somebody stop in while I was
there so I think it's going to be a great move for them and the health department um is working on getting themselves set up however our part-time employees happens to be on vacation so
she won't be back until uh the 17th but in the meantime I'm sure um Maronei and the inspectors will do whatever they can to get that up and running so that uh both departments are back to normal hopefully by next week
and that's all I have thank you Councilwoman bur engineer [Music] thank you Mayor uh not too much to report um only a couple things going on
right now the improvements to the front of the mun municipal building are almost complete looks great um there are some punchless items remaining such as the flag poles uh that are on order and um I believe we're also waiting on some folks on sprinkler system for the front as
well uh the other thing is the boulevard sidewalks that the gas disturbed they will be um be sent to the papers next week for bid and um that's pretty much it great any news on when the sidewalks are
going to start yeah that we're putting them out to uh we're putting them in the paper next week okay so a couple weeks from then to be and then be awarded and then uh hopefully constructed soon okay these co-ops that we've now started
working with they don't do sidewalks they can but uh we already did did the work so what do you mean we already like put the put the bids together and put Well yeah I realized that you guys put a bid together for the Deario Pavilion at
150 and the roll out came back at 125 so a significant savings to the burrow um same scenario right you put the bid together already with the paperwork i can I Yeah I think we should i mean if we're going to enter into the agreement and pay them a fee for being in the co-op I think we should utilize it if
you get the concrete cheaper through them it' be even better if they if they do provide a budget for that I I'll take we'll take a look at it please yeah let us know we'll get back to you thanks thank you Chris i have a question the chains in between those decorative
ballards are they staying i believe so cuz I saw people that parked now you can't get onto the sidewalk and they were they had to walk back around because they parked point of the the changes to prevent like prevent people
from parking yes i don't know if there's are there spots in front no it's it's yellow curb up until you get closer to the rec center right and then it's open so you used to be able to park and then come on to the sidewalk to go in hall
now you can't you have to walk in the street to go up to get to where you could go in front of the rec center i assume we did that because of the trucks that were coming up on there ruining our sidewalk it also looks nice too i think it looks great yes it's a part aesthetic
part functional oh maybe maybe it needs to be painted yellow then or something cuz that's what I saw people park there and then they were walking in the street around not to go through the dirt i don't think there ever was parking
there like I said it was once you got past the center of the burl near the rec center there was a couple spots right it was cut at the mailbox i usually park a little bit further yeah you should park up a little
um when people work they usually drove up on top of the sidewalk right yeah the benches too in front of the rec center that's really hard to carry stuff in and out of the wreck you got to go all the way around the benches now they're staying there right what's that
we're not going to rip them up and move them no no I don't think they're bolted in yet no they're not bolted oh no okay i actually uh we got like bags and everything are they going to fix that asphalt all
along the side of the center clean i heard no it's all I'm sorry well where where the concrete meets the parking on the side of the rec center because they had to break up some of the asphalt now it's
all like grally it's not a smooth finish i'll take a look at it it looks like it was just patched but it wasn't done nicely so like how it was where the police Yeah and they left it dirty it's really bad and I can add that
to the punches they should and I would think they would have to re stripe it because now that you disturb that all that striping is disturbed i I'll take a look i'm trying i I'll ask the uh
contractor to Thank you uh Chris two questions um sidewalk on Burnab that bound parkway we uh is that going to be done soon just in case people ask always comes up i look into that i I was I did try to get quotes for that so that was a
little while ago i wasn't sure of that say something last month purchase order was last year for that so it's ready to go you're saying yeah well the contractor said he had to wait till after the first because there was a higher rate for concrete oh
months because they put an additive in there to do for freezing so he should be reaching out to either myself or Tony to schedule it uh sometime so all right so it's okay it's good um the other thing with uh when are we restriping the senior light it wasn't done yet was it
right no cuz I saw it was I took a picture it was a dumpster like right in the parking spot so I'm like we passed the ordinance what about a month ago uh Laura I assume you had to wait for the weather to turn but it's spring now so good i'll look into that as well yeah thanks
okay that's good for me thank you thank you Burrow CFO thank you Mayor as our finance chairman spoke we got the budget tonight i'd like to thank the committee uh Laura and all the department heads it was truly a
process of working all together so uh trying to give your residents the best bang for the buck so that's all I have good job good job great job thanks Kevin thank you Houdini [Music] that was Yes mayor attorney good evening
Mayor uh mayor there's an or a zoning ordinance on this evening it's uh permitting uh houses of worship and doggy daycarees in the Czone uh standard processes this gets referred back to the planning board for a consistency hearing
before the second read and that's what the ordinance this evening is about and that's the only thing I have to say okay thank you burrow administrator um Mark just a correction on that that this is our public hearing for that ordinance
tonight so we already heard back from the planning board and they approved it they said with the master plan Dustin was here for that [Music] i apologize thank you for the question
[Music] yes your turn you're out so I'm happy uh the last meeting um I informed everybody that we submitted two infrastructure grants for uh the DPW clean water
vehicle wash and for um the ADA access to the uh detective bureau building and I'm happy to report that we did get notified that we were awarded $50,000 and we're going to put that towards the clean water vehicle wash uh installing this wash is going to
allow us to meet D standards implement proper wastewater treatment measures to prevent harmful pollutants from entering the environment and protect our local water sources um to tag on what Savino and uh Tony has said earlier about the uh department switches I just want to
thank Greg and his team they did a great job i want to put a shout out for uh Cindy she kept everything organized for the construction department and the planning and zoning getting everything moved over that was not an easy task and um another special out to poor shout out
to our foreman Dave um apparently most of our furniture came in kind of like we purchased it from IKEA we didn't that's how it came in so there's a lot of uh construction going on there but uh thank
you Dave um let's see it's that time of year again the local government ethics law requires local government officers to annually file a financial disclosure statement by April 30th late submitts and failure to submit will result in a fine by the local finance board so be sure to file in a timely manner because
the bureau will not reimburse you if you fail to file uh at the next meeting I'm hoping to have for council consideration the updated employee handbook i know we just adopted it in December however when we went to submit it to uh the GIF it was
found that there was mandatory language missing so we're going to have to revisit that again it's almost finished and I hope to have it for the next meeting for your consideration uh once we get the flag poles in uh I the original flag pole if you remember
the mount that was out there before that large brick mount um there was some rumors that you know it may have been a time capsule cuz it was quite large but once they destroyed that there was nothing in there uh the mount that's out there now is a little bit smaller in in
size and it kind of mimics what we have for the 911 um memorial what I would like to propose is that we have a another rededication ceremony once we have the new flag post in and when we put the plaque back out on the mount if
everybody's okay with that that's a good idea let's see um and PSEG has notified us that they're going to be pulling lines on Market Street starting Friday it they're expecting to only be out there Friday possibly Saturday and Sunday uh
the conduits are already laid they're working with the traffic department so hopefully this should be fairly seamless and that is all I have mayor thank you um I have two items um item 112 a consent agenda do we do we have to vote
separately that is going to uh when we got down to that point I was going to notify you that that was going to be coming off the consent agenda um it's going to need to be voted on separately the other change to the consent agenda uh thank you Councilman Morrow he brought to my attention that a title was
left on resolution 108 it was not for that resolution so that title we're just going to strike that the resolution itself is correct could we have a a motion to remove 112 on the consent agenda u make a motion
second i favor i do vocal all in favor i I um one other thing um the retired um police their
prescription they're still very upset um I know we had the meeting already is there anything else that we have lined up to try to resolve this we do have another meeting lined up with them and we are we are in discussions with them yeah they filed a grievance already so that's the meeting is the grievance okay
i was hoping to avoid that but I guess soon we settle that agrievance okay laura uh just what you were saying there PSJ on Market Street they're ripping up the streets no they're not ripping up the street they're just working with the the work that they've already done there cuz the condo has already been installed
so they're just going to be pulling the lines okay so they're not going to disrupt the street that's what they told me i don't think they could do any more damage than they don't the ordinance for the curb paving and it would be nice if I don't believe that's
going to happen this year because the gas company's going to be coming in next year and doing more to market um on the employee handbook um is that something the finance committee will need to meet on for the what did we miss what was the mandatory there was some mandatory
language as as it applies to CDL's um there was some other language missing in respect to uh oh what was it a SARC team uh identifying the SARC team um the SARC
team SART sexual assault response team okay um there's there's a few items like that I could those are the two that come to the top of my head right now so but I am working with the labor attorney to get that squared away to make sure we have the correct verbiage in there and some of the verbiage that was in the section was there but the language was
wrong okay so we're just putting in the language as approved by you know the J and this is mandatory stuff so slightly committee to talk about the language i'm happy to go over with you if you'd like sure i mean but it sounds mandatory it doesn't seem like we can negotiate anything on on the language we're going
to use here so Okay sounds good thank you so if I may just uh illuminate a little bit so it's it's not uncommon for GIFs to suggest language or require language for them to continue to ensure us at the rates that they they they quote you know through life's
experiences and various lawsuits they decide that certain things should be tweaked and certain conduct should be tweaked as detailed in the employee manual uh just so that they continue to ensure us so uh it isn't like any of those requirements were conflicts with
law per se they were just requirements that the insurance carrier imposes so that we keep our insurance as cheap as possible thank you and while we're on the subject of insurance a few of you had um a little flyer in your spot if you had a flyer in your spot that means
you need to take your training that's all I have flyer there's a flyers that's a flyer i think everyone has a flyer joe did it joe did do you do not have a flyer councilman Bole does not here i
have to [Music] Well everything I need is here but there's one site it'll be all in queue y same as last year so you know the email i don't remember
and as far as that financial disclosure I was talking to the mayor about from I recall is anyone you can claim as a dependent you have to put down their income and where they work pretty sure that's I don't believe so i believe it's just you and your spouse that's it yeah it's just you and your spouse your your
children I don't believe as their dependents are supposed to be reported in there all right i think I put her on there because we claimed her as a dependent but all right move before he moves back in for those of you that done have done it
already if you haven't had any changes since uh last year you're just going to go in and pretty much you know continue through the process um but if you have had changes you you will have the opportunity to update it but otherwise you're just going to next your way
through it until you get to the end you must you cannot just submit it you have to review it so make sure you review it and then once you're done reviewing it then it will allow you to submit okay thank you for that you're welcome
any other questions okay we have an ordinance for introduction uh next for council consideration is ordinance 202504 introduction calendar year 2025 ordinance to establish a cap bank for shown to NJSA484-45.14 okay the purpose of this
ordinance is to establish a cap bank in New Jersey establishing a cap bank via ordinance allows municipalities to increase their budget appropriations beyond the 2.5% cost of living adjustment limit to the statutory permitted 3.5% and to bank any unused portion for
future years is there a motion to approve ordinance 2025-04 on introduction motion second motion made by Councilman Mororrow seconded by Councilman Finestrella roll call councilman Bole yes councilman
Finestella yes councilman Personno yes councilman Mororrow yes councilman Piper yes and Councilman Scuries yes ordinance 2025-04 will be scheduled for public hearing and adoption at the May 7th 2025 council meeting at 6 p.m uh next up for consideration is
resolution 25-103 approval of the 2025 municipal budget for introduction and establishing May 7th 2025 is the date of the public hearing and final adoption so motion to approve resolution 25-103 the 2025 municipal municipal
budget introduction motion second motion made by Councilman Mororrow seconded by Councilman Scarice roll call councilman Bole councilman Finella yes counciloman Jerome yes councilman Morrow yes councilman Piper yes councilman Scuries
yes motion passes the agenda okay in accordance with our earlier conversation uh resolution 25-108 the title on the resolution has been stricken and resolution
25-112 is going to be read off consent agenda okay is there a motion to approve the consent agenda motion second motion made by Councilman Bole seconded by Councilman Finestrol roll call resolutions 25-105
through 25-11 have been approved by one motion all items will be reported individually and form in the minutes councilman Bole yes councilman Finestella yes councilman Jordana Perno yes councilman Morrow yes councilman Piper yes councilman Spice yes motion passes is there a motion to approve the
resolution 25-112 motion second motion made by Councilman Moy seconded by Councilman Denisella roll call councilman Bole yes councilman Finella yes counciloman Jano
yes no oh I I'm sorry i was saying I thought we were on the other one council yes councilman Viper yes councilman Scurries yes motion passes next for council consideration is an ordinance for public hearing and adoption ordinance
2025-2 adopting amendments chapter 120 land use part 3 zoning article 23 to permit houses of worship as permitted in the use in the C commercial zone district and to amend bulk and lot regulations for the sea commercial zone and to establish certain design and site requirements for the commercial for the
sea commercial zone the purpose of this ordinance to is to amend land use chapter 120 article 23 permitted uses and zone district regulations in the commercial zone district is there a motion to open the floor for the public comment on this
ordinance only second motion made by Councilman Scari seconded by Councilman Mororrow all in favor i Does anyone have anything to say on this ordinance and this ordinance only please come forward and state your name and address
okay seeing no one is there a motion to close the floor for comment on this ordinance only second motion made by Councilwoman Gioano Presso seconded by Councilman Finestrella all in favor i I a motion to approve ordinance
2025-02 for adoption motion second motion made by Councilman Ski seconded by Councilman Mororrow roll call councilman Bole yes councilman Finestella yes counciloman Jerano yes councilman Marorrow yes councilman Piper yes councilman Spice yes motion passes
okay at this time I'd like to open up the floor to the public is there a motion to open the floor to the public second motion made by Councilman Bole seconded by Councilman Scarice all in favor i does anyone have anything to say for the good and well-being of Kennorth
please come forward and state your name and address hi John good evening madam and council john Zimmerman 35 North 7th Street um I'm here on behalf this evening of the retirees of the Kennor Police Department i know
that Mr scree touched on it and everybody kind of acknowledged um regarding the current police department contract unfortunately I was advised by labor council last year that I was unable to participate in negotiations as a council member because it was a
conflict of interest and unfortunately this contract currently in effect basically erased the prescription benefits we retirees sacrifice to negotiate for our careers for and during our careers the town is
100% following the language of the new contract and applying it to the retirees we need your help and involvement regarding the prior contractual commitments that were made to us retirees regarding our prescription plan the retirees were under the
impression that the meeting a few weeks ago was going to be with the council police committee members and I had a conversation with the council president who told me that was going to happen our representatives found out when they attended that the council police committee they attended the meeting the
council police committee were not in in attendance nor involved at that point so the retirees representatives left that meeting with the understanding that they would meet again on April 22nd which was brought up this evening with the town hopefully the police committee is in
attendance for this follow-up meeting our representative's request was to give every retiree a debit card and make the town seek reimbursements from the burrow's vendor point C instead of the retirees going through point C which we had a meeting with
point C personally with point C it's been a negative experience for me and for the retirees we need your help and involvement mayor police commissioner council president
council it's important for us not just saying you know we're going to work on it and we need we need action done and there there are retirees that are [Music]
suffering please uphold your prior contractual commitments that were made and in force and effect until January of this year for retirees it's just travesty that retired county policemen and women haven't received a cost of living allowance since 2011 by
the state of New Jersey and now this ended burden has been placed upon them by the burrow of counterware i hope that you're not turning your backs on us and can find a solution to restore that which has been taken from us the retirees of this department and this
town that's all I have thank you thank you thank you John and uh I hope we can resolve this you guys we all want to resolve it absolutely the meeting's on April 22nd april 22nd that's what I was told i wasn't on the committee but the
people that attended the committee asked me to speak on their behalf so I know that it was brought up tonight that there was a meeting coming up on the 22nd so I'm hoping that the council mayor are involved and we can get that loudness and resolve it we're already
four months in for a new year absolutely shouldn't have been taking this long but hopefully we can resolve it then i'm going to try and make that as well is that a Thursday on a Thursday tuesday tuesday okay thank you thank you John
anyone else [Music] okay seeing no one I'd like a motion to close the floor for public discussion second motion made by Councilwoman Gioano Pisto seconded by Councilman Finestrella all in favor i
okay is there anything that needs to be discussed for the good and welfare of the Barrow is the workshops next well we can talk about the workshop now we want to discuss the uh bulk pickup
yeah that's a big item [Music] greg did you ever get my email i know it came i did okay i apologize for not being back no it's okay i didn't know if it was yeah we're busy with the move today we're in the final stages um does
anyone everyone have a chance to review what I sent to them and if anyone has any questions to answer anything my only question was what I sent you about uh multifamilies um I'm glad you
brought that up and I am not sure because I don't know how many multif family dwellings we have in this town other than two family homes like I know there are apartments but no really legally there's only supposed to
be two family houses i don't believe that according to our we allow any more than we may have more but I don't believe we're supposed to have They got burned illegal they're grandfathered in before the zoning
changes before the zoning changing high capacity housing they banned um state including your well basically they banned all new construction they do the 75T watt so you can't do additional but how many could
there be a handful well two family houses figure out but I mean if you have something that's more than two families it's going to be a massive pile out front and I don't know you guys are okay with it i'll be okay with it but I just want to know
what how everyone's thoughts are as a gun body well yeah you'd have to do it per unit yeah per unit maybe five three families at the most that's it and it was stopped years ago and then the other thing you brought up about the vehicles
yes that's an issue because if you got a dresser sitting behind two cars and now you have to pick that up and walk around two cars that's that's added stress on the worker's bodies carrying something that have even more distance so
so um I can move my cars but then could I put cones there i mean somebody else is going to pull it cuz the parking is very tight that's actually a comment I had that this was a luxury I feel that wouldn't work in Kennorth especially in the you know the Boulevard 19th 20th Street area there are homes there
there's nowhere to Well I'm able to prohibit parking well I'm hoping that the residents would um because we're going to put on scheduled days let's say a resident has like four cars in the house but they only use two to commute to work right maybe they just put the
other two in the driveway and it's not the residence it's the like North 19th Street you know so the residents could all take cars and pull them away in about an hour there will be no parking on that street and it's not necessarily non-residents just people that don't live on North 19th Street i mean it's a
business district and we should expect that i don't know how we can penalize the person throwing out the dresser because somebody used public parking well if it's public parking that will wave that but no that's what I'm talking about it's not street parking
but I like more lab where there's like actual line spaces that's different i understand that because that's you got those streets have physicists on them with the exception of 14th Street but those line stripes are maybe that into I guess the the revisions to
this ordinance to be clear that we're only talking non striped public parking for that provision so non-stripe you can't easily you can move it but if it's striped it my car go around the block I lose my
spot this is going to be very detailed that's not going to happen stripe non strike size of going to penalize residents for somebody else parking in front of where they tried to move their car you
can't and that's why I think we should protect them with the language of the ordinance i don't think it's too complicated i think we should word smmith the solution well I think no matter what street you're on you're not going to be able to prevent anyone from you can pull your car you're not going
to a couple streets it's going to be a lot more of a problem i'll agree but the point I'm making is that no one can guarantee that someone isn't going to come and pull up there no one can yeah there's a church right by where I live and you know sometimes
they have events there and unless we con they most houses have driveways can't they put it close to the driveway yeah but what if you don't have a driveway no it's kind of either we're going to pick it up or we're not you You have all these caveats it's never going to work
how do we do it now with both pickup well the thing is when contractors do it they have they have more people on the back of the truck than what we're allowed see we're we're being restricted by ocean we only have two people in the back of that truck whereas a private contractor you know he doesn't even if
he's by the same rules he doesn't care he'll or he'll drive more guys and they'll walk the whole job he had I think four or five guys in the back of their truck plus the driver in the garage truck i mean could it just be a conversation when someone calls like
"Listen we for us to pick this up." It's important that we have access um we only have two guys if it's something a heavy piece of furniture um we might have to come back another day if there is you know because about is what if what if
when we move in we're hitting their car by accident right and what about what about asking for it to be in the people that do have a driveway it needs to be at the end of your driveway i mean that might be because a no one can park there
and then they'll just figure it out i think most people not all but most people do have driveways so that could prevent a lot of the problem if it's in their driveway like it has to be it's picked up from the end of your driveway i I would agree with you on that one
because we have to make sure we protect not just the residents but our employees as well that's why I was thinking in this thought process because if they're carrying something a two-man team they trip they can hurt themselves because they're going a longer distance than normal right if it's if on paid service
like you said driveway to road like no one's going to park there because it's a driveway and they can make that sacrifice until that piece is picked you know they know it's scheduled um so I think at the end of the driveway it should be put and if they don't have a
driveway um maybe at the end of their walkway everyone at least has a walkway right so at least there's space I mean people can still block the the walkway so maybe at the end of a paved surface on the street right you can't put it out on the street
what do you mean the street no against the curb that like as a cuz that would only take up as long as it doesn't take up more than a part of a car it doesn't go any further than a car from the from the curb worry about the right away how about suggesting that
it's up to the curb line if they don't have a driveway I'm talking about right against the property line that's closest to another driveway so if they have a neighbor that has driveway on one side that's the property line they have to
use i wouldn't do that because you know what happens somebody pulls in their car gets scratched because their neighbor put out a dresser that had a not against the driveway against their property line so on their property line but closest to that on the opposite side of their front
yard from the closest driveway not to exceed 8 ft from the curb something like that suggest my I mean I think you should do that even I think 8 ft is I I would go four feet well I would say that's the maximum a car
mirror to mirror would be like a sedan would be 8 ft wide mirror to mirror Greg do you have a something in your employee manual that says they have to be able to lift a certain amount of weight because we're asking them to down
this road with Angela when we were hiring our last hire we don't have anything written down as a minimum weight lift the only thing we have as far as weight is concerned is in our burrow ordinance for trash it's not to exceed 75 lbs
[Music] so the employee has to pick up 75 lbs for trash or recycling yes or vegetated waste 30 gallon 32 gallon can max size and up to 75 pounds a week is that something because of those claws in the back now that we can That was
prior to the Yeah so I'm saying is that something we should revisit because the clause can pick up more than that yeah but what if that's why I pick up in in the in the ordinance i don't remember exactly where I wrote it but I said if the can were to exceed 32 gallons in
size it must have a minimum of two wheels and one pole handle so that way that was in there i don't think that was a correction I put in one of one of the pages prior to the bulk collection cuz I went through the whole code of one of chapter 106 because it addresses
vegetative waste recycling rubbish um and now I add the bulk waste and I changed the language like they had the wrong start time in there i think it was sanitation was starting at 5:00 a.m they now start at 4:00 a.m so and um with recycling it says putting it in bags we
can't put it in bags and right the recycling centers ask us not to do that because it screws up their sorting machine and that's something I'm working with on more trying to notify residents this entire year we want to make these changes for next year entire year to get used to it that that's good the uh the
change in the in the bins that's appreciated cuz I know we we invested money in the claws and now we're going to be able to use them uh folks should benefit from that i did notice just a technical thing the 32gallon bins is the revision we're making up top in the garbage ordins and everything down below
when we start talking about bulb we put it in a won't fit in 30 gallon bin but maybe that needs to be 32 since we're changing the the sizing very minor thing there you don't remember where that was um the you have a reference for the small waist down at the very end of the
ordinance that's where I think we make mention it can't be it won't fit into a 30- gallallon bin and then at the very beginning of the revisions we start talking about revising 30 to 32 i just thought those should Oh I see i see it's in the VA yeah that's that's not um that's something I took from the uh New
Jersey state statute i don't know which one the 30 or 32 the 30 gallon that's something um should be because it's it's so the 30 gallon is a reference of size so residents when they're trying to determine what is considered bulk cuz
I'm also been talking about the rightway incinerator and they they told us that um household waste is not not restricted to like bathroom or kitchen waste it's how a waste generated by the household
and they said a rule of thumb is what can fit into a 13 gallon garbage bag kitchen garbage bag like for example a small garden coat would fit in there or a hand tool you know pair of sneakers whatever
a throw pillow you know stuff like that so that's what we've been telling our residents and our sanitation collection as well so I use that 30 I didn't mention 30 p i put that in there as a point of reference so people could uh use that as a way to determine the size
of what would be considered bulk yeah it makes sense just it won't fit in the garbage can how big is a garbage can we allow 32 but here 30 i don't think it's wrong by the way cuz if you want somebody to not shove something so it's 31 gallons put that out of the bulk i think that's fair too i just wanted to point that out uh one other thing I
noticed in the enforcement provision where uh we're putting this on the police department uh you as a superintendent of DPW as well as the zoning officer if we're going to do it that broad why not include the code enforcement as well uh an extra one out there again I was just trying to include
the all the departments that would be affected by this truck you know I don't if I put that down zoning I probably meant the code because if you know what illegal dumping would fall under that department and police to enforce it just as a law enforcement agency you know to
help assist the other departments as well cuz they have a stronger presence i mean right now our zoning officer and our code enforcer are the same person but that may not be the case uh you know in 5 years so uh that was it my only other question is if we've been able to somewhere understand the cost savings
from not doing bulk pickup to going this route is there any kind of forecasting that we'd be able to do for something like that so the initial forecast is is just saving on what we would pay the labor for the contractor and then what we're going to do is since we're taking
this to a different place because we bring garbage rawway incinerator we bring bulk waste management so we'll have a totally different ticket and we're going to track these tonnages over the next six months and compare that to what we did on a oneb pickup that we did
in 2024 okay so this budget right Ken we've allotted for a single bolt pickup this year we kept it in because in case something happens when we have to put it in in the fall we have that capability but you'll be looking to see this
savings if it works next year's budget that'd be great it's almost like that would be an emergency measure in case we can't pull this off and then it becomes a buffer in case the tonnage is not correctly calculated correct so we're set up to do this this year that's great we're going to when I if you guys are
okay with this I'd like to roll it forward with next month sorry next month that's what's in the P uh P uh ordinance um no enforcement will be done until you guys agree on the language of the ordinance and when I say enforcement I'm
like the penalties and stuff like that i'm going to stick to the five rule the five item rule but um like I said we won't do obviously we won't be able to force anything to you guys adopted as an ordinance but I'd like to roll it out for next month because if I don't it's going to carry
me into the leaf season and I can't afford to please stay in time during the season yeah and I think everybody is anticipating some type of close and there has to be a grace period i res putting bulk out and over on Kingston
600 block of Kingston so I've seen some bulk throughout town as well go over there and tell them because even if we roll this out in May they're not going to be the ones getting it in May they're not That's the Wednesday route so that won't be until July getting back to the
safety of the public works people is there something that we should put as a weight limit um god forbid somebody puts an air compressor out there or safe unfortunately there's nothing we can do about that because then I'd have to carry a scale around with me unless it's
got the weight listed on it um what what I'm going to be telling you guys and what we'll tell residents if this happens if there's an item that's too big we're going to get it the following day on Saturday with a front end loader we'll make a special trip back out and get it
i mean it may seem like unless we have time in the day like I'm going to be rolling out two garbage trucks for each route one round a month we get done early we'll do the uh loader pickups then on our heavy items but um we'll just we'll just have to
play by ear you know couches we can use the gra barrel tippers to grab the couches put them in the truck if we had to um but other things yeah we're just we'll just play it by ear i mean it's the only thing we can't do putting a weight limit on it's just going to be too restrictive
there's been a couple paint cans sitting on the side of Kennorth Liquor also Anthony Manguso has been in talks with the building owner over there okay um telling him that the DPW will pick them up once they're dried out right so
he should take them back in his place and let them dry out in there he's already been issued a violation warrant this business owner or the building owner of course no one none of the tenants business owner
are in their trash pile so no thanks the other issue somebody could dropped it off while they're waiting at the light one is we're having is randomly on average once a month since the beginning of the year someone is using the burrow cans in front of Jimmy
Buffs Kennorth Lakers the u the smoothie place and senior center those four cans are being overfilled overnight with household trash and camera and now again they deny it but empty liquor bottles
the amount of liquor bottles I see in here someone's got a liver issue so it's it's it's horrible it's it's at least a 55gallon bag in one two two cans of just alcohol bottles cans bottles glass you
know sample shots it's But we're trying we're digging through we're trying to find addresses but someone knows what they're doing and they're not leaving anything in there to incriminate themselves can you put like a game camera that would No that's our next move that was uh suggested by my foreman um Dave he said "You should use a trail
camera they're inexpensive they only track it when there's movement." And if you none of the shop owners there have a camera that you can The one the realer who's right next to the liquor store she's willing to put her camera in there and ask her yeah oh she she offered when
she saw us digging through the garbage can trying to find evidence but uh and Anthony Manuso is on been up to speed with me on this one and he says once I find something he'll I'll be uh nail it down what would be the fine for that make sure you up it before you catch it that's illegal dumping so all right
so I don't know 50 i don't know what it is i could be 500 i don't know i don't remember what the protoc enforced by the police department from what my recollection yeah I think you're right um one suggestion if you can't only get two guys on the back of the truck and you need more guys you
have just follow them to pick up your guys and kind of I was gonna have a form and follow behind in case someone puts anything recyclable out so he can pick up decent dump and doesn't get thrown in with the bulk and we can do it the right way so yeah there'll be at least one other person there but he's going to be there to help enforce it and take
pictures of anyone who's in violation just as a course of record and also to assist as well how's your staff with this new um I have a tap and only because I want to wait till I have something concrete to bring back
I think it would help i mean you could utilize the website and everything to do and don'ts kind of flyer uh for the recycling issues and whatever else we don't want people doing with the bulk but this is a huge step forward right hey
guys now um since the burrow is going to getting the money for all this recycling instead of random people just pulling up with their pickups and grabbing stuff um I'm thinking maybe we should keep that money in uh almost for DPW instead of just a general fund to
see if we get anything we're anticipating maybe some profit from it and you know at least up to a certain point in case there's something moneyable i mean we should be able to take profits and re revenues this wouldn't be profit but we should be able to move it where we need it i don't know
why we would need to ear mark it specifically to go back but if he's generating it and his department always has expenses it should stay there and he wouldn't need as much money lots of expenses all over can't do it all right just a thought it's just it
helps support the whole operating of the whole the whole burrow i mean if you go with the theory of that's the department that's collecting and generating it then the tax and finance officer are going to tell you "Hey get all the money because just a thought."
He's thinking it would offset a different expense that he has he could come in with a budget request and say "Hey listen we saved this or we brought this in can we look to do this for next year's budget or next year's capital?" finance committee that under consideration and Greg you have a track
record for coming to us with ideas like that and actually saving money so when you invest in something like that I don't think we're ever going to say no cuz you're doing a hell of a job cuz it's like turning up there's actually a lot of money in that
now you didn't say I would think it right now just to be understand like um I know we used to charge for like say an old gas stove that's they're taking everything for free up to five items except refrigerated items yeah refrigerated items because we have to pay a licensed Yeah person to evacuate
that legally but anything that can be recycled like for example scrap metal we'll take if you want to bring that to us we'll take that for free but we uh we charge a very small fee to go pick it up just to compensate the borrow for the
time of doing it but so if I had old car parts hypothetically you guys would take that and drop it hypothetically it's old i don't have anything yet he will tomorrow the scratch look at it is as long as
it's mostly metal like 75% or more metal content then it's considered scratchers or Yes cuz regardless of what if it's got plastic or whatever mix in with it as long as it's mostly metal they'll take it a scrap and they'll source separate it there like they'll take the foreign objects off that's not
recyclable that's a great idea and it cuts down on dumping cuz people what am I supposed to do with this you know they're just going to dump it if they can't get rid of it legally or and as the ordinance reads I'll say all that for the record in case anyone watches this um we're not taking anything hazardous uh we're not taking any
liquids and um we're not taking anything that isn't uh listed as old so like no construction debris or anything like that or recyclable right well it's a the So the way I wrote it was kind of left open for interpretation i said recycle
items would not be considered as bulk items they're recycle so it could be an added item is what I'm getting at it's not part of the fire not sure if this constitutes
construction but say somebody put down new pavers and didn't want their old ones if they left them out front you're not taking pavers right no it's considered construction debris can they bring them to the yard though like cement uh stuff um yeah they can bring
them to the yard uh we charge I forget what it is but we charge by the cubic foot for concrete material so anything like a paper stone or concrete of itself one cubic foot i found that every time I had stones like that I put it on one of those apps like the garage sale apps
people take it without come pick it up marketplace yeah they they don't want to pay for those things and they'll gladly take your garbage if you have it like that let's see can you uh give an example of what is a bulk recyclable item i'm having trouble in my mind it's
so it's glass in my house i think barbecues would New Jersey New Jersey statute when it identifies bulk it classifies my appliances as bulk because of its size i classify it as recyclable because that's what it is it's a metal
item that can be recycled i don't be an example barbecue would be an example cuz I don't want to be throwing it in the garbage truck when I can turn around and make money by recycling it so when you're saying the benefit the way you wrote it is I can have five dressers and one barbecue because one barbecue is not
five items it's a recyclable item oh that's that's good like a lawn mower is mostly metal lawn mowers we'll take e-waste as well cuz that' be a recyclable item but like I said nothing hazardous no chemicals nothing liquid craig what if your bulk items now
that are recyclables your lawn mower your two barbecues now you're at five well six recycled bulk items the one where it's going to be sketchy cuz if we see any oil or gas we're going to need it okay so I've got five six barbecues and I know nobody really has six barbecues but are we running into a
situation where you're just going to be overloaded you guys can't There is There is that possibility there is that possibility but I mean the other way we can say this is then if I say none okay then I don't pick up recycles or you make recycles part of the b the bulk
five i would just make it part of the bulk five yeah it makes sense just to make it part of the bulk five because it's going to be very confusing you might have somebody put out 10 things and say "Well I thought that was bulk recyclable so I didn't count those five." Yeah I would keep it simple all
right and worst case you can bring it to the It's going to take people a little while to get on board with all this and understand it so I think as simple as we can make it the better so that's just an easy change which was just interested
mhm now uh seniors could call up i mean I don't if they had a bulk item but they can't carry it out or something well that's I would have them use the handment program oh yeah
okay is it still there's a lot of shame you cannot do that okay so so how does this get rolled out you're going to we'll we'll revise all the language based on all your suggestions tonight and I'll go over
with Mark and Laura and if you got everything right we'll have it for the next council meeting to vote on as an ordinance so that's the 17th cuz now we're ready into mid April 16th 16th 16th okay take a month for that to
go for and then and then by the end of May would be the second meeting right Laura and it's good for your doctor get two I'll still roll it out for May you know because like I said if I wait one more month we'll be past October exactly and
that's going to hurt my Yeah no I'm sure it'll pass you got to get it in the mail literally you know They're gonna get literature to everybody in town right yeah i'll talk more on the best way to handle that time now why would the first meeting July so yeah i think I think for adoption we can get
it for the first meeting right yeah introduce it on the 16th and this is our new normal so this is good i think it better works well the first year and well I switch cycling so hopefully I'll get the same traction on this one
if it works well we'll keep it going every year and that would be a norm and we won't be in front of the phone calls or for requests like that we'll have something to look forward to every year yeah i think it has the same effect as two bulks cuz you don't it's not one day or weekend you got two opportunities to
uh So you're basically getting two bulks i mean we should be able to roll this out by May 7th that would Yeah good is that our next meeting 16th and
then won't be then May 16th we can roll it out it just won't be so it won't go into effect until May may 7th he can roll the program out but as far as going out and finding anybody we won't
I don't think we should anyway i think there should be a grace period people aren't going to know there'll be no there for the first year there's pretty much just going to be like warnings and stuff like that exactly we're and we're going to take records so this way if we see habitual offenders in the following
year that's that put out car parts no car parts okay yeah definitely you think if we do the mailer along with um recycling information we can Yeah I know you're
going with that like you're thinking just tell us what's the plan we're going and I are working on a mailer and then we're going to combine it for to save money on postage we're going to combine it with our recycler
mailer know all the updates and stuff like that counties come out with new language to help identify uh the proper recycling so people don't have to look for numbers anymore i was I was telling you earlier yeah yeah so uh we're going to incorporate all that and
those numbers are too small we're not trying to say that the next thing would be I don't know if you can handle it but one garbage pickup a week is that feasible one garbage pickup a week no no I'm saying you could put you know
two gallon you know but one garbage a week one bulk oh one regular household garbage instead of two pickups a week yeah you have your I do it three if you have imagine a family of
six in July [Music] on the one change I made in here was I think it was Yeah it was 106-6 i wrote an added uh verbiage here
because this was an issue I saw when I worked with our sanitation department and understand how they do their job i said all bag garbage shall be placed in a receptacle and not not on the ground if the container/re receptacle are larger than 30 gallons they must have two wheels and pull handle i've been
seeing residents and business owners just putting a bag on the ground then the animals tear them open yeah it's just not sanitary like I I don't care if it's like a five gallon bag of garbage everything should be in a can with a
lid for for sanitary reasons only mostly you know it's not it's not I mean it's easier for you guys to pick one bag up out of off the ground than it is to reach at the bottom of a can i'm not worried about that i'm worried about the sanitation aspect of it because all the garbage thrown all over the place yeah
rodents go in there and who knows what those animals have when they're biting through that garbage so that's one of the rubbish in there that I like for you guys to consider changing the ordinance yeah absolutely sometimes slap a thing on a warning and if you do it again you're going to get
fined i'm actually going to call the county print shop and see if they make stickers like that bright orange stickers a singer in violation of borrow code 10 chapter 106 call the office for further clarification something simple like that and then we can educate them absolutely the city of
New York does that and they put them on car windows and it creates fire damage let's just be careful oh you put on Are you speaking from experience but I I can tell you if I woke up and had somebody put a sticker on my
property over No it's going to be on the garbage they're going to leave the garbage we put a sticker this is it we're not picking it up and put it in the fine count next time you're going to get fine yeah they knock off the cans over they chew it on a can we'll take
the bag if it's just a bag on the ground door knocker up and be like this anymore greg do you know what happens to the lids like I didn't put my address in painstick they're just gone and they're still in
the lids are lids are like socks you miss you lose one you don't they you don't know figure out where the other sock goes or lids either like it's like lids are the same socks in the dryer yep that's what I just said yep well they
pick up somewhere the towel of course is the the garbage cans is the ones with the one man driver that has the thing that picks up and throws it into the they're not going to be able to grab a bag with that rabbit claw see so it's
leave it and doesn't leave it there until you got it just come up slap a sticker on there but we don't have the thing but still it's an ordinance too i think New York City is All right i think we're going off topic now we're going into a lot of different conversations but thank you Craig you're
welcome yes thank you thank you very much thank you thanks Frank okay um we have need to go into executive session um I'd like a motion to go into executive session motion with a second motion made by Councilman Moore seconded
by Councilman Finestrell all in favor i We're kicking you all out mayor I don't expect this to take more than 10 minutes and I need the CFO for here okay Ken you can't leave greg are you staying just tell me where
you are i'm going to resolve the scriptures loudly holy like you pray in the temple one I move with a letter of a pencil [Music] Heat
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