I'm making this announcement in compliance with the open public meeting act being chapter 231 Public Law 1975 laws of the state of New Jersey the planning board secretary has prepared a schedule of the meeting of the planning board of the burrow of kennworth for the year
2025 and has been posted a true copy of this schedule to the bulletin board located at the front entrance of burrow Hall and as mail true copies of this schedule to the local Source Star Ledger and is maintaining a copy of this schedule in burrow Hall accordingly the notice requirements of the open public
meetings act have been satisfied in regards to this meeting can we stand for the Pledge of Allegiance I pledge of aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands one nation under God indivisible with
liberty justice for all go call please Mr pno here Mr mazio here Mr SC here Mr Luca here Mr raldi here Mr P here is there a motion to
approve the meetings of uh the meeting minutes of February 27 2005 how about Mr oh I'm sorry oh Nick I'm so sorry you miss ni I did I had him here but I missed Captain he said he was not going to be he in
May between your hearing let the record show Mr D is here got it sorry okay so now that we're all here is there a motion to approve the meeting minutes for February 27th motion made by
Mr DeLuca second by Mr Dondo all in favor okay Communications Kathy Communications uh we the request for consistency review for ordinance number
20252 from the governing body Okay Kevin um would you take two or three minutes just to give the board and everyone out there a brief overview of what we are voting on
tonight thank you chairman the board has the responsibility to look at all proposed land use ordinances that are drafted by the council passed on first reading uh the
board is responsible for looking at that ordinance and rendering a decision as to whether or not it is consistent with our master plan the board then advises the governing body for counsel as to whether
or not as to what our finding is that it is slash is not consistent so the decision the board has in front of them is to look at that ordinance uh see if in your opinion it is consistent with
our master plan and if it is we're under a decision and our board secretary our Charming leprechaun will send uh a communication to the council and inform them as to our fighting is that under
three minutes chairman okay that was pretty good thank you thank you sir um so all the board members have read this we had ample time to take a look at this we talked about this at length and uh is everyone here um somewhat want to
discuss anything are we in agreement with this does anybody have any input that person on the phone is going to phone in okay so if there's no no discussion on this we could just go to a vote and
um who's out there the issue you're talking about no okay um this is for an ordinance that the council has passed down for our review
to find out if we are in favor or not so that's basically like some really inh I don't think we open this to the public no so we don't open this to the public it's kind of like passed down to us we review it and if we're in agreement or disagreement we send it back okay
chairman yes sir you said there was you had mentioned to Kevin there was some changes the only changes that were implemented earlier in our Workshop was that they put in there uh an ordinance for um Veterinary establishments
and uh pet daycare and the definition of what that was yeah I that on the video that was all that was all in there but I don't want to say it was a slipin but it was something more than we talked about but it's it exists somewhat in our
master plan already it just elaborates on it to give the pros and cons on where and how okay Mr Kevin if if I may Shar I'm over my three minutes the primary focus of this is houses of worship yes uh
that's in the bold and underlined as well as uh various setbacks that required the buroughs proposing to allow houses of worship in the um c commercial Zone uh which is along the
boulevard um behind the boulevard I have to pull the map up I'm sorry uh currently houses of worship are allowed in the community serving district and it is very limited only a
few places that reflects where the existing houses of worship are uh the buau was concerned about future expansion and decided to allow the c commercial District to be available so it has no effect on the
existing ones and they don't if they're in the other Zone that you just mentioned all the houses of worship currently are in the current houses of worship Zone along with the PBA and the vets and you know other community
serving organizations any new houses of worship could go in the c commercial Zone but has no effect on the existing ones no effect on the existing ones
whatsoever good Mr gal anyone else okay so if there's no other questions is there a motion to approve the um the council's deem it consistent with the master plan being consistent with the
master plan Mr galdi makes the motion seconded by Mr the seconded by Mr D I'm sorry I can't see you Mr pogy second by Mr dandoo roll call please Mr bno yes Mr D yes Mr pantina
yes Mr maio yes Mr scary yes Mr yes Mr maldi yes and Mr yes okay okay um we also have a communication letter from uh Chiller ker and galin
requesting an extension on application 384 221 B right Avenue want me to run this for is there anyone here for that yes yes thank you uh chair time see how are you uh very good
uh I represent 50 B right um LLC we received uh site plan preliminary and final site plan approval and uh C variance a couple SE variances back uh in I think it was
200 it was approved in uh approved November of 21 and it wasu was January 6 2022 that's correct right so preliminary preliminary approval will would have expired on January of this year uh final
approval would have been expired on January of 2024 uh during when my client um after my client obtained the U um approvals uh he had this is during the pandemic right after it expected that he
could start construction so his business would pick up quite a bit and it didn't uh it's now picked up to the point where he really needs to go forward with this has the financing so what we're asking for the statute allows um uh extensions
uh on the final what we're going to need because it's retroactive uh to uh the expiration date so that would be retroactive to two years from uh I'm sorry the January 24th what we're asking for is an extension uh
from that date would be a 2-year extension uh from January 24th of 2024 from 24 yes you you can't you have to go back to the original date so that would mean that we'd have to it would be
extended to January 26 26 26 January 26 bless you thank you okay um 27 if I Me 2 final would be 26 right
24 2026 okay 26 Mr too oh I'm sorry do you have anything else uh the only other thing I would say is that my client is uh the architect is is working on the plans my client has the financing he's ready to go
right okay on the [Music] construction I I really can't hear you and so um I don't know if I need to hear you yet just give me two minutes yeah I don't think I need to hear you at all
actually I don't mean it the way it said I'm having a rough night as you can see with this year um I did prepare a resolution extending the uh life of the final site plan to January 6 of
2026 if the Zone doesn't change the approval doesn't go away it's just this is a protection for any any zone changes um for the reason set forth in Mr demas's letter Rich had a hit on one of them earlier I guess your Europe funding
went away okay but we have it now you have new funding and you had some supply chain issues during the right right early on oh absolutely um the other boards that I represent have these have these same issues applicants are
requesting extensions I I think from my standpoint it's very reasonable it makes sense but it's up to you I did prepare the resolution granting it till January 6 to 26 if the board accepts the extend yes exactly okay Mr deas you have anything
else that's it okay all right in front of you the board what we are looking at is an extension to 2026 we understand the hardship of finance and things like that um does anybody have any questions or like to know anything about this okay
is then why don't we um is there a motion now to exped like this to extend this okay I'll make the motion to accept the extension and uh go ahead with the resolution okay motion made by Mr scad seconded by Mr DeLuca roll call please
Mr berno yes Mr Cantina yes Mr mazio yes Mr scer yes Mr D yes Mr DeLuca yes Mr galdi yes and Mr baz yes okay thank you Mr deas thank you will the resolution be adopted tonight or at the next me it's
set up for both memorialization well for the vote which just happened and the memorial ation tonight so we can do both I mean I dated them both March 13th I anticipated an approval obviously it's your call but I anticipate can I see that resolution yeah sure and the
resolution parrots the reasons in Mr deasy's letter I attached the original resolution his letter and and for the reasons uh set for it does the board have a problem with the resolution being passed
tonight we could put it out there the only thing I would like to do is um and everything else any other any other conditions of the original proof will remain in effect okay what I would like to do is I'd like to move this forward but I would like you to read
this resolution okay um from the start no start at the end and then work backwards we'll see so I know you want to this some times I'm call it Mr deasi the reason
we're doing this because sometimes we try to get things moved along and I don't want an appearance as if we're pushing something through so what I'd like to do is follow a protocol that we should follow all the time and that's why I asked uh Mr Rego
to Red this the first three paragraphs are basically what we did in the past if you want the meat of it I can start now therefore be it resoled by the time you explain all of that you would have been done let's do this um up front we uh the burrow korth planning board granted previously
granted 50 bite a LLC preliminary and final site plan approval with dimensional variances a connection with property located 15 bite Avenue burough Kenworth New Jersey more specifically known as block six lot six tax map of
the burough of korth with the use being permitted in the industrial Zone whereas said resolution was memorialized on January 6 20 22 and whereas the applicant has now requested that the board consider an extension of the prior approval up to an
including January 6 2026 in that pursuant of the municipal L use law the period of protection from Jan zone changes for the final plan approval has expired now therefore it be it resolved on the 13th day of March
20125 as follows one the applicant was represented by John damasi Esquire two by correspondence dat of January 2nd 2025 Mr damasi indicated to the board that he is requesting an extension of the previously approved preliminary and
final site plan for 50 bite Avenue up to and including January 6 2026 in order to enable his client to commence Construction in compliance with the previous resolution three pursuant to the letter at the time of the original site plan approval his client
was experiencing supply chain issues because of the pandemic and was also experiencing significant delays regarding securing a contractor that was capable of completing the con the project it was indicated that various construction companies were committed to
other projects that were halted during the pandemic further and in accordance with the letter a contractor has now been retained and will obtain building permits once final architectural plans are completed four in addition to supply
chain issues the previous delay um because of the pandemic resulted in escalated interest rates and the original Finance provider withdrew his commitment for the construction it has been indicated that financing is no longer an issue and that the applicant has secured appropriate funding five the
architect for the project Larry Appel estimated that approximately four months will be needed to complete the construction documents subsequent permits will be obtained and construction will commence six without the planning board's Grant of an extension the previously granted
approval may lose their protection from zone changes seven no members of the public commented either in favor of or in opposition to the request for an extension that be it further resolved um on today's date that the extension of the previously granted preliminary and
final site plan approval with variances is hereby granted and shall extend up to an including February 6th of 2026 U number one the applicant shall continue to be bound by all conditions of approval previously set forth all exhibits
introduced all representations made and all testimony given before the board at its previous meetings um and that that's that concludes that's it so the planning board just heard the resolution is there any objection to what you just heard no okay I think that was the best way to
handle that Mr damasi thank you very much okay you're welcome yes sir I just want to um ask the applicant and representatives they submit any resolution to Appliance uh plans because I'm not I'm unsure because it's been so
long if they submitted revised plans based on resolution um for construction there has to be construction meeting um all the all those uh requir required requirements yeah we'll communicate that with Mr the archit there were a number
of conditions in the resolution right yeah absolutely we're good okay is there a motion to approve the resolution as SE fourth by Mr Reger motion be by Mr um Mazy seconded by Mr DeLuca roll
call please Mr bno yes Mr pantina yes Mr maio yes Mr scary yes Mr DeLuca yes Mr galdi yes Mr B yes
Mr dandoo yes okay thank you a question I know if I Mr the only thing I should have had him put in there and I know you were here for the workshop make sure there's enough in the escrow account well I put okay we're going to
move on fair enough and I'll get a copy email tomor okay thank you sir have a good evening see you John okay next item resolution application uh 22-04 minus subdivision 320 North 21st
Street you have the resolution in front of you this was the twoot subdivision on North 21st Street the board heard this over three meetings um and there was a lot of revisions made mainly to the rear of the
property regarding storm water runoff uh drainage landscaping and the rest um the board approved it uh on March 13 2025 well on February 13 2025 we the the board concluded that
there was no issue with the lookalike ordinance and um uh everything else is set forth in the you know detailed reports that that that Chris and uh Kevin uh prepared for the reworking of the plans in the rear of the property so
that lower level wouldn't wouldn't flood with a lower lot okay um so I wasn't here for the February 13th meeting I don't know Mr Massie you you h that so um what I'm going to ask is that
GRE oh Greg David okay uh so I guess what happened is you approve the application and what we are here tonight is to approve the resolution as stated with the conditions am I correct yes okay uh I'll make the motion to approve
the resolution as as uh drawn up motion B by Mr Mazi second by Mr pantina roll call only people who voted the affirmative in February Mr Zam yes Mr pantina yes Mr maio yes Mr scary yes Mr
galdi yes and Mr B yes okay that's another item under the way that's for you okay application 246 site plan North Holdings 12424
north2 is there anyone here for that oh hello M representing the applicant Holdings LLC thank you all again for your time dedication to work appreciate the report by Christian
[Music] Kev again just briefly uh Mr chairman this board members an application Sol to install no Chang the site just additional
B years ago it was build that is a factory for years and years and years and a lot of these older Factory buildings have been now updated to accommodate them asate warehouse distribution like these
additional Bay drawers again we have a manufacturing you only have a couple of bay drawers theya shers come in and all the manufacturing so again no changes to site other than the installation of the of the bay doors um no changes again the site I know
there may be some residents got that parking lot there no changes to that parking lot I think for a period of time one the utility companies was leasing it out that's gone so again be no say overflow and again the nature of the
business really isn't any activity on that property um Mr Bri raised a question about the roof R over the summer they I waiting for a picture for time they Dido a new roof on the property and then make um they redo the
building it just blend in uh on that on that site so again the permitted use in the Z just unfortunately due to uh religious religious commit for clients could beager to I'll do an overview of the operational my we have our site
engineeri will touch on that and then our planner will touch on the planning the VAR is essentially existing conditions no again no expansion but right now they have two tenants uh there's one is called man Logistics they
take up about 25 there office furniture company 5 to 10 employees 95 Monday through Friday one to two traffic trailers a day have their own box TRS and a handful of those
everything is done inside there they also have a small kind like an anary building and uh they're they have about 5,000 ftation the actual Property Owners they have a facility now in Jersey City and
uh the ability to get these bay doors they would relocate here again similar Logistics type company they'd occupy their name 45t Ecommerce house that deliveries um five employees
end 9 to 5 Monday Friday the weekends and they receive deliveries of containers so that's generally what they're they're looking to do here um and there no preliminary question I have
James or site engineer EX in site he's prepared to address any any coms race thank thank you Mr H I think at this point we' like to swear in our our professionals first gentlemen with regard to this applications you swear
any testimony you give shall be the truth I I do thank you that was Kevin O'Brien our planner and Christian quo our board engineer can I ask C Kathy are we can notice in publication yes okay um Chris only lies on Tuesdays okay uh sta
I have one one question I was looking at your outline the requested variances they seem to me that you have four existing deficiencies and they're not going to be aggravated by this appli correct so there's no touch on those okay but there's no new
variances correct all right I figur I shared with your professional okay little over thank you okay so I like EAS so we'd like to hear a little bit about this gentleman before we get
started if you could raise your right hand please sir with regard to this application do you s the testimony you're about to give shall be the truth I do thank could you state your name and spell your last name please James Mard M Mary as t r
o n a r d y thank you okay Mr if you could pleas get the board public the benefit of the work education experience a expertise and I we work together over years excuse me uh sir chairman Mr master has been here on a number of
occasions he been qualified by the board as long as your license is current in good standing perhaps few times everything is in good standings yes okay thank you Mr Mady all right so if you could take us through a little bit of overview of the site I we
have a a mounted version of the plan and just take us through uh existing conditions and I think it was either uh commissioner Kevin talked about centralizing the dumpster location great idea we'll get a spot for that too
Mr mastera is this exactly what we have in our plan or is that something new same sorry exactly the same okay I just didn't know if we needed to exhibit that I can't hear [Music]
you Mr um over there I don't I don't know Marco can we maybe get a camera on this oh he has it there I can't see that I can't see Mr as well go [Music]
home Mr Master Mr masterani so we have that in our packet obviously it's folded but if you're familiar with it have you marked that at all some of the lines are darker the only thing I did was use a marker all right then why don't we Mark
that A1 since it's mildly mile be modified and what can we call A1 which sheet is it sheet 207 okay thank you
so this existing conditions you see the building Tak the part of the the lock um here's a lot across the street I call Lot B one
building lot a and there's a lot C I call C on the north side of the building Mr Master Mr Hal I'm so sorry to keep interrupting problem one of the things that we've had a problem with is that when you when people are presenting
that the public actually cannot see so if we use the table there then they could be part of the application leave that there oh okay than thank you gentlemen sorry about the
no no no that's [Music] good well um like I said building takes up the great majority of the site there are different parking lots associated with the
building uh this being North through 22 okay this um to the south of the building is the largest parking lot of lot a lot B is across the street across the
12 on the other side there that's B and the lot just to the north of the building lot SE basically we're just changing or installing lot right
there sir sir there'll be an opportunity in a moment sorry thank you can I just take control again here for the public I'm sorry to say we have to conduct this there's going to be an opportunity at the end of their testimony any questions you have each and every one of you could
come up and ask questions before we make a decision I'm leaning so I can see this I'm sorry I'm leaning forward so I can see it okay that's fine but you could sit up further if You' like so basically this whole project
involves installing seven new truck Bays on the south side of the building along lot a that's it in order to do that I simply had
to change the the the U storm drainage from a a pipe that runs along on the base of the building because it would interfere with the truck new truck things and um elevated to the level of
The Gutter and so a larger gutter strong um you know um strong gate metal gaug Gutter and um and then grade the area along the building to allow
trucks to come down and meet that a 4ot elevation for the uh back the truck into the building the first floor of building and that's basically the whole um idea
project confirm I think no changes proposed or anything which affect the lot cross no there are no changes proposed to the lot lot B which bus six different residences I know that um I know that some res
already have High um um vital F which U have a events events that is along the east side of that Lot B um but there are no changes proposed
to that lot and you touch on and I think one of the professionals noted about U centralizing the trash loation uh there are a couple of places to centralize the trash not a along the south side of the building because there
we have proposing some new spaces and the truck P but in the corner in the uh I call it the armpit of this building near the corner here and um anywhere along the side of this um extension of
the building and also if necessary you would cut down one tree in an island across the lot uh and create a ther area there so we can submit a plan showing that
location and it'll be certainly scam and Mr M I'm sorry could you please point that out again where you would do that the dumpster area yeah uh anywhere in this area long this building's
extension sou or if necessary um in I call it an Island area between spaces across on the other side of the lot away from the building where there are three large trees one tree
could be removed if necessary and we could create a space [Music] there better all the dump in this over here there is a loading bay door right now in the [Music]
corner and I uh I'm going to remove that um or we can move it down a little B Christian so it doesn't interfere I think it's an existing so no I meant the uh dumpster down you're proposing to keep the trees
and put the dumpster someplace up yes and the dumpster requires an enclosure yes so you'll provide that at some point in the yes provide detail question where are the exist bay
doors now can you just point to him there's two sets uh three sets of two so there's six bay doors now yes he say existing existing uh there's two closer
to the pro yeah two around the middle and two at this end so if you're going to add seven new bay doors what's going to happen to those parking spaces up against the building um the owner said who's not
pres said that he's removing two of them uh near the end so he's only adding five and what and what happens to parking spaces that's that's what they said yeah and there's all that parking across the
other yeah but there's there's nine spaces right now on the south side lot a in the middle of the building so if you're going to add seven or five new Bays
the you know what's going to happen I'm sure I don't know when this site came about I'm sure those nine spaces weren't there just for the h of it Steve do we do we have this does the board have this [Music] new this is
didn't ask Mr Master do you know what's going to happen to those PES or you're not sure and then she three she three so on outside of that building
[Music] everything sixes [Music] if the board looks at sheet three which is Southside modifications it shows the proposed six parking spaces in addition to the new B
do see I stand correctly there's four existing SP four not six this is unless you there two over here on that extension of the
building they're not true Bas so I should they shouldn't be count along the south side of the building there are four existing we're keeping those and adding three or
seven seven on a plan so what's What's the total existing and hey Mr Master can you regroup what's existing here's my question what's existing what's proposed maybe we can do
it that way okay existing along the south side of the building are four truck days okay that's existing we're adding seven total 11 okay that's a little different got
it and just way of operation our clients indicated again no change in intensity but it just help with efficiency things will be backed up there's always going to be an open Bay where there's delivery try to time them never El stag out the
stre okay that's a good question yes ask questions um sure at this point I think we need to yeah okay um so my first question is on
the2 the lot this up here on the North side the north side of the building yeah and does this owner own a property that's currently north of lot is um well a yard that has
frankly and north of is another industrial area south of a is resen so my suggestion would be that if you're going to combine the dumpster area to some place you put it
in between the industrial areas away from the r you should at least consider right but let me point out that uh south of the parking lot l a there's an 80t wide paper Street which is I mean just grass
and tree and I'm getting to that part too okay mind I am five houses away from that lot that lot so um and I can hear uh picking up at 4:30 in the morning so if
they were north of the building in that lot at least my street would appreciate that um if you're going to do anything in your armpits it's interesting that you call
armit it's me um there's cars there's project cars there's old Industrial Equipment there's many things that are just sitting there and they've been there for years um I walk by there every morning
pretty much um you said you're not doing anything for this well right now you're talking about putting seven um new truck B in the Press truck B so that the the B line up the tailgates
line up and all uh because the lot grades downward from right to left on this drawing and the first floor finish floor stays remains level we really only have to uh lower the pavement well lower
the pav significantly toward the North like this set of three over here and then a little bit much less in the middle and then none in the left you know this gone over probably before the gone through a large
environmental and none of this and I've dealt with him for many years and he's near the end clean up and uh no no it will not okay um you're changing
the you mentioned about the storm draining and that's subanal right now no uh towards the north side of the building the pipe is actually sits on the ground okay and that would interfere
with the truck and then gradually it goes you know his head is half underground and then it disappears around a third away from the left side so uh but that all has to come out and go on top and then uh come down near to
where it can go across and enter the existing uh storm tram okay I would suggest either to our Engineers or they ask the applicant to have some type of view of that to make sure it's actually going
there because as you said the paper Street that's just below this parking lot uh you could just visually you don't have to be any type of engineer or anything else you could visually see where this lot dumps out through the
fence and into the storm drain that's in the paper street so whatever systems in place right now not exactly working right no no um no I made a comment for in my report to
inspect TV that storm system to make sure it was adequate well I don't think it's getting to it there's existing storm dra along that paper Street Horse Trail yeah Washington um there's actually a standard Street
cat bation and it comes out right between a fence gate sweeps around right into it dog SNS there every time um but uh so it's not working
properly so um maybe if we're doing these improvements we can make sure it's either you know I don't think anybody's talking about throwing order system on your property but as long as if there's
grading and stuff going be going on in the parking lot uh these things could be taken you could take this time to make those Corrections and make it work right um as far as you know you're presenting that there's a nice Island in
trees the parking lot has seen better days so um if we're coming in here and we're putting this amount of work into the building maybe we could tight up some of the curbing come of the packwork and
stuff like this um but again so dumpsters if you have opportunities to place those dumpsters on your property away from the resident that would be first um cleaning it up getting the
drain to work and as far as the Bay [Music] going I know you stated that this would not be an increase in the tens but you did say a company was going to be a part of the company that's in Jersey City is
going to be moving here well there's 45,000 take it over [Music] okay I I I we're adding seven s yes but I I know the owner has said to me several times the net increase is five
because yeah we're adding five we're adding five after we take away two um most of the time there's maybe two or three tra trailers in that lock during the day so if we're adding a net gain of
five track five Bays he's doing it for a reason there if there's efficiencies you know there's there's more uh tractor Trails now and chairman tell me if I'm eating
up too much time you're not taking too much time but I I think we got to hone in on the testimony let's figure out what I understand where you're going with this and and that's why we ask what's existing what's OS I I think
we've um we we've made that point two or three times and I think I would like um Mr mastera to move keep going and let's just iron out with our professionals what they've already put in their reports to what you're saying which makes a lot of sense the last thing that
I want to just add for the onsite uh improvements um whether the intensity will increase mildly or majorly this is a paper Street there's green there um there's R across the way from
there a simple thing of some type of green buffer would be a great situation of some fast growing large J providers or something to help again buffer that because again we hear all this starting about 4:30 in the morning
and I know this has been there since before my house actually as 1995 still a good number ofor and a lot of coming and going but grad went [Music]
down I think you're and the board may want to consider because this is about uh the impact of the residents and tenor the board's probably going to hear from the people staring at us right now
um because of this location a lot of your truck drivers disregard the rules of penor um they'll probably tell you about how their Cable Systems have gotten ripped out of their house um how the
street has gotten damaged because from your property South is not truck room but your tractors the people coming to your facility are driving driving up and down that street and causing the damage
to these residents so with that I'll let you follow the Chairman's [Music] lead um I was just going to say the the most expedient grout is obviously from 22 Springfield Avenue North 14th you
know and then Monroe and towards the into the site I don't I don't see why uh um it would be easier for trucks to come down the boulevard to 14th oh and then in that way I don't I
don't I think 22 is the most expedient way for them to enter right well we have a traffic pattern that we follow require to follow the truck rules and this this is good to hear and if there are violations we make sure that
they advise their the drivers post it and also require uh with thean they deal with to follow those rules and follow the truck routs so those are are legitimate comments by Mr galdi um you know the
residents do have a hard time over there however the uh policing the trucks that go in and out is the responsibility not of really our police department but of course if they get caught doing something wrong you know they're going to get summons but they need to follow
traffic patterns and that's I think what you're saying Mr galdino uh yes I mean maybe there's something uh maybe there's something that our professionals could advise uh beyond the
no trucks sign um maybe the the owner could work with we had a different um project on the other side of town where I know the police and the uh residents
were actually doing a combination um surveillance cameras that would be able to be shared with the police so then if a resident gets his uh cable ripped out of his house and there's a tractor trailer sitting in the lot with a cable wire hanging off the front end
of his truck well maybe we can see that on the video camera I don't know what the answers are is there such a sign as let's say trucks cannot make a right turn the I'm sorry you can't I'm you can't speak yet I'm sorry you will have
your turn I promise don't forget though yes I don't remember if it was a a resident speaking here I think it may have been at a council meeting um and again I'm not 100% certain I haven't been hear with my own years other than from this resident council meeting that
they've gone and filed zoning complaints about the trucks using the street and the owner said there's nothing you can do about it he cannot police those truck drivers in that so uh I believe according to that Resident there's outstanding violations zon
violations that are outstanding now um and I think a lot of them stem from this again this is from hearing a resident speak at I believe was a council meeting a couple weeks ago so I mean it's it's definitely an ongoing issue and I don't know how you can solve stopping the
trucks from going the wrong way unless you have somebody posted at that gate 24 hour but if there's an obvious sign there signs on the if you can turn off the boulevard it's well signed a big sign that says no trucks and they still make
left sign's not doing anything I'm sure it'll reduce it by quite a bit Mr help so we're we're probably talking about conditions of an application prior to here in the ol the whole application
doubt so basically sign I'd like to see all these comments are important um but as far as rules and regulations to traffic signs and things like that they need to be posted but if the sign on The Bard says 25 miles an hour and the guy's
going down the block at 40 and he gets away with it that's something that happens but if he gets caught he gets summons so we will look at that at the end of this application at the end of your testimony so we can then compile all those things and then see if we can
make it however it has to work work I'm sure okay no problem so thank you Mr galdi you brought up some great points for the application in the town did you have something Chris you wanted to add to that I you I feel like you're fighting at the
bit I mean not on that but on this project okay we we have report I know you have your report why don't we let uh Mr H professionals finish up wrap it up and we'll have a list of questions and we'll move further you have anything
else Mr Mr over here well that would be you did you want to touch on the reports or yes know reports report okay well first one Harvard consult
report um I mean touch on the engineering engine uh number seven before you go to number seven um would you I'd like you to kind of go back to number one I know that is uh discuss you said two tenants but there's
three tenants no there's two right now there's two right now so the one 25,000 so the the third one that you were talking about that was in Jersey City is that the um that's the owner's com that's home for you or is that home for you and they will be so that would
be typically new tenant for this correct for this project corre and based on your albon you said that the first pant man Logistics has one to two tractor trailers a day correct home for you will
have around the same around the same tractor trailers containers name containers containers yeah okay and Sky Mason mly scolding St and what type of vehicles are just uh smaller trucks so
basically the first two well Sky Bas and then the I mean hope for you and Logistics is the only on right now which and that's tenant one and tenant two the [Music] main 45,000
[Music] p and going to number seven uh provide one parking space as we can do that um sorry sorry guys can you go to number number
six mainly because of the the future parking and you just go and discuss that that topic a little bit more but the oh using using cuz you I know that the required parking based on the square
footage is 110 you need 110 how many employees how many visitors how many that I can't testy inside of the building I but generally limited employees five
they're saying approximately five to 10 for each of the the larger companies so is the addition of the other parking lots just to it's part of the property it's just or is it just to
make the parking compli right yeah okay so and and there's no the comment all of it will be related to the three tenants on the site no leasing out spaces on
l or for storage for other uses I'd like to point out as far as the parking that [Music] uh um so I'm sorry so Mr H you said that there'll be no additional leasing of spaces leasing like third Parts no
correct um for the businesses on site so I've shown 50 spaces in Lot B but they could and uh 10 by 22 spaces but um they could be increased up
actually up to 90 spaces they're 9 by8 I've used just 50 and we still meet the requirement of 100 [Music] now can we go to number seven [Music] yes again back to number
seven uh we can comply with that um provideing e parking space and three for the should be what they can't everything they comply with except what they can't
[Music] rather Mr um Mady so you have a a report in front of you can you tell me in this report what you can't do if you're going to comply with everything here I like to know what
you can't do what you have a problem that you can't do good point thank you let's do if you're going to tell me that you my our engineer has put forth this document and you're saying I can meet these requirements tell me the one
that you can't or the two that you can't that's what we want to look at there's reading comply with everything good you can comply whatever we're done bring up your next yes yes you may want to look at item number 11 that has not been
provided what's what is that Kevin color rendering of what thisor recommend that the color rendering yeah me you could do that yeah no problem it'll match the match the
building that's the [Music] [Music] report so um you brought questions you want to go through some questions sure
uh so does that mean we're done with the engineer you're going to comply to everything on it there is some additional testim likeor please kind of let's move this uh number four page four number three the
uh there's currently ass signed by the environmental investigation cleanup do you can you provide any information on that is still under investigation yeah it's um I think you mentioned that it's under active remediation all hearing end
certainly as Mr Bry pointed out any soiled service would require any appropriate DP approvals yeah Mr Zeus you know um Bill Zeus the previous owner he went through party expression hell
and and paid almost a million dollars I believe to for the clean up and I mean he's just he's wiped out and but he's nearing the end and um it's it's been cleaned up tremendously if you do have to do any
storm sewer Renovations then environmental investigation effect no it's just got they hold out a lot of stuff out [Music]
it are you good yes you're going to comply with everything on the engineers report and then some y right yes okay I'm I'm okay with that if you're okay with that Mr
Kevin thank you Shar thank you uh item three B which is on page two there's any additional bu landscaping or screening proposed the side is currently in violation your
um we we're not proposing any on these plans but we will provide [Music] Landscaping definitely desire we can [Music] do so the applic would have to come some kind of
plan will the existing 6ot chain link and barbed wire fence I if um they have no problem if you want the wire remove I was under the impression we have an ordinance here that we're not we don't we're not
allowing Bob wire am I wrong it's existing but they have no problem taking it off okay why don't we check that and the barb wire is allowed under certain circumstances in the industrial Zone they're okay I just posed a question for
the board consideration and for the applicant and the board says it's very unsightly uh then that would be a discussion with the applicant that the board may wish to have well Mr Hill already said that they like it for security purposes it's either way we're
fine and then I'll point out that these are wide open Lots they do have Gates I can't recall seeing them closed others who live in the area could add to that well I'll I'll yield to the board later on but uh for one I don't think
that the Bob wire is a good [Music] idea do note that as you [Music] can the uh fencing is pretty be up
currently uh we've discussed Solid Waste uh Mr H is um on um still on page AG two Mr H has said that all the Lots will be Consolidated yeah I guess the question is I don't think we can
consolidate the one across the street but certainly the ones that are and the ones across the street Sol own very good um comment sheet three of
Mr Master's plan plan refers to the CI Zone which does not exist Cor that is there any change to the lighting on Lot B there's currently there are currently four cobrae head street lights there Cobra heads are the
ones that come out on an arm you they got that oval looking uh lens it's got the uh orangey kind of Street color any change proposed to those [Music]
no bo may want to discuss that one [Music] these are street lights uh in a parking lot that directly for join residential noted the residential came long after
this building I don't know when the lights were put in but they look very well Li for the lighting isos the ACT throw so can see right
yeah recomend liting you get my I do Mr Mayor as a m plan I the board If This Were a new application these street lights would be completely
inappropriate here um but yeah let's see what it is see if we can approve it makes sense well on page six of seven he does have this lighting oh set up here seven of seven shows and those poker heads provide
significant lighting for that parking as it is what what is the impact to the neighbors and the people there with imagine [Music] chairman can I ask if we could just pause or back up a little
bit you B you your question was there's some existing coverhead lights there now and on page 607 they do have a lighting diagram that does show candle light in where things are going or maybe where they
exist what is their proposed lighting diagram if one it it you're not satisfied chairman the uh existing lighting plan shows 7 foot candles on the residential border that should be a
zero uh so there's a significant throw um 7.6.5 U should 2.0 the lot line okay so that's a lot of like that's exting that is existing
correct we're site approval bur always looks to improve situations and you also have to consider though that the 6ot fence the 6ot picket fence wood picket fence and behind that an 8ot on for most residences an 8ot vinyl
fence uh actually doesn't allow and then you consider the angle um of throw you know light it probably winds up on the other side of that fence almost zero Mr Mardy how high are the light
pools I'd say you say 20 I'm okay sorry I leave I think they higher but let's let Mr MTI tell us that okay uh but I as a m planner um I think
that this really throws light into the residen so on that Mr Brian on that John on on that last comment you have the isoflux patterns on six and seven you got a lighting detail light pole detail you got a detail of the
heads I'm sure by some program that's out there or some vendor that you could get off the vendor for the uh luminares you could probably get a 3D graphic on here to show what the throw in your case is from
the light pole at a certain height where it comes down what the angle is and how far it's going to reach into the residential border I could get the actual height um do a cross-section of uh an elevation of the light coming down the angle on the residential board right
and that and then that with with with the two fences that you talk about that should provide enough comment to or enough discussion possibly how does that count yeah but we can't anticipate the fence on the other side your fence no
it's your fence right chain link with barred wire fence light goes through that we cannot anticipate the fence on the other side because that is under other control so there may be offense there may not be offense some of the residences have buffer of their own some
do not can I ask a question how many existing lights do you have on the property that Kevin is four four and those are are cobras the ones that are on the plan they are at a 20 foot high elevation is it
possible the on the propos the existing ones in okay page am I reading something wrong it's on page 67 is an illustration that shows the light be 20 ft in height bottom left hand corner now it could also be 21 ft if the footing is sticking
out of the Black Top by a foot or so but I don't think so so it looks like you got a 20 foot light okay actually I just noticed that I had assumed a 25t height I'm conservative I assume 25t height if
it's any lower then you're going to get less foot candles on the neighbor side but again it's a six foot picket fence uh board on board like picket that blocks a lot of that light um on the neighbor side okay it's continuous
continuous fence on the other side no not the neighbor's fence our side okay yeah I rely on Mr Mard for those numbers he says [Music] correct thank
[Music] you the existing lights that are there Kevin are not being changed going to keep them and add the balance to the parking lot my question was where I was going with this is that the existing lights that are there can they be
changed over to LEDs in order to distort the light and not be so offensive to the neighbors you could put shields on the front so it doesn't go that and put the uh or hoods the eyelids of the horse shields on that's a very clever way to
deal with it shair I'm thank you very clever way to deal with it yeah rely on our engineer to do that we're assuming that is offensive but we don't know if really well you're here for a site plan approval and all these things need to be taken into
consideration I'm with respect I'm not here to assume anything I'm here to figure out if it's going to work or it's going to not or if it's not going to work not if it's going to not so and what we have to do is be very very thorough in what effect your application
is going to have on the building water runoff lighting the public all of that so that's why I'm just trying to iron it out and and talk it through but I feel like I'm doing uh with respect I feel like I'm
doing a lot of engineering here and I'm not I'm I'm not hearing the answers that I need well bottom line is it's an exist existing lights um I'll do more thorough um lighning analysis with the actual
height the considering the height of the fence as well and see if there's any overp that's all Kevin um the lights you're talking about are the ones on the telephone poles on 12th Street yes okay
um chairman just there I I understand your point and I agree with it but um with correcting it and get getting to our requirement of zero at the lot line is definitely what we want to do but we want to keep that
place well lit um because things happen you know nothing happens in in the bright light bad things happen in darkness so keeping that area all well lit is good but yes cutting down the uh flow over
into the back of the resonates because also Kevin there's the picket fence uh the chain link but I believe when um that whole area was developed somewhere along the line somebody put up
a like a board on board right behind the chain link fence and then the neighbors the neighbors proceeded to put their own fences up yeah the only thing that you know I understand your point about the overflow with the fence and all but if you look at some of the neighbors that
are behind you there you know when they put a deck out the backyard well they're right there you know their head's looking right over the top of that fence so the shielding of the fence does nothing for the guy sitting on his deck
so but again I I think uh Mr chair the chairman came up with an an easy solution to it so Mr mastera uh regarding your your comment about an existing site uh my job is the planner I represent the board and
the bur as well as the citizens here and when I pose questions it's because I anticipate that the board or the residents are going to ask those questions and with these guys a long time I generally not always they
surprise me uh have a pretty good idea of what planning concerns they have in mind so that's why I oppose these questions and that's why I Rely Upon A prepared engineer to come back and give us suggestions or refute the suggestion
say we don't need any change all in your court uh you say it's existing we knew that so it's up to you sir and the board has made suggestions that's their decision you've answered my
questions if you're satisfied with that question we can move on Sir satisfied with your answer excuse me okay Kevin one last question based upon the look of the lights that we're talking
about these are on the outside of the fence and these are also you know they they're the same street lights like the street lights and they also have some of them have the um solar panels on them they do they aren't these then like the
ones that you rent from PS I suspect so but I so figured Mr Mna would give give us that information he hasn't given it to us yet we don't know if they're rented leased we don't know if PSG put them up 60 years ago plus and
gave them to the owner we don't know what the arrangements are okay I was to say engineer would have those answers or will get those answers because if they are pgs they they may not be able to change them or something let's let them answer that question and tell us what
the facts are if I may suggest okay but sometimes you can't get both in other words you want a well L parking lot and you want it to be zero at the lot line now the roow of spaces uh that's right along the lot line is not
so it's you know it's a give and take type of situation really we're all looking forward to how you address it yeah thank you uh question is when Lot B is utilized what will happen to the equipment that's par
there I think that was utility company that R okay so there'll be no heavy equipment over there at all what do you anticipate parking there possible overflow parking which we
don't think is needed but it's part of the property again when it was a factory obviously a lot more employees than than e-commerce so no RVs no winnebagos no abandoned vehicles cuz they're there
make sure they're gone okay Mr Mr mas no heavy equipment as you said in Lot B um these are 10x 20 spaces will trucks small boxes small box trucks larger pickups or something along those
lines we park there it I guess if needed but based upon the the type of operation we don't think so but again it's part of the business and it would have to again the hours are 9 to 5 months through
Friday so if there was it wouldn't be activity after will there be any vehicles to parked there overnight again tend to doubt it because we don't think that plot's going to be utilized but certainly if there's say an employee
vehicle or or a truck it could be part there I don't think there's any in that industrial Zone restriction against the parking but it possibly could be used no there are no restrictions uh just asking the question so that we can
the board can make an intelligent decision as they always do sorry I'm just making sure I get this down uh we discussed the monitoring well um how will we do faade land the existing side um Christian and I both
discussed the color rendering uh I presume you did not bring one M we didn't have sure no problems applying it it'll [Music] blend Mr K represented that the roof has
been replaced I was supposed to supply I didn't receive a send we'll get it over is there room for that welcome to Kor side for those United passengers is there a signage plan uh I know that there are a number of signs
along the street they're all individual some small some big some appear to be banners that are attached to the fence uh can is the applicant anticipating consolidating those signs in one place
continuing the batter sign with only two tenants now going to three are all those sign any extra signs can be removed and Consolidated and would comply with the sign of your [Music]
ordinance any comments about a central location or you're going to keep it pretty much as it is probably again as long as it complies with the not seeking any sign thank you
[Music] Mr sorry still got my company clerk typing skills here uh there are 12 mailboxes in front of the building you know how many are used and how many entities when a lot of places get mail
delivered to places without necessarily being there um you don't have any you're utilized yeah we talked to the to the owners and I think only a hand and they don't have a problem consolidating I think at one time again
Mr zeuss had a number of different tenants in that building and they have all these different mailboxes but no need for all those we don't mind the mailbox or I don't mind the mailbox not the purpose of my comment just wanted to see if there was you
know more tenants than we know or more utilities more entities stopping at the property for any reason not that we've been okay I'll leave that to the board then um is to if they want to change proposed Lot C has an existing gravel
path and a grass area along the building um how much grass will be removed Mr M that area parking I see is a little unknown I don't I'm not sure what the owner wants to do with that I don't
think he intends to even use it as far as I know but [Music] oh the grass there it's it's like half grass gravel gravel and grass so the question is there is grass now just gravel
C you have a parking lot on the plan oh he was whether you use it or not part appr question is will you be removing the grasses there build this part now
know will that affect your impervious cover numbers yes well if it's fully paid right now though that that grass is not uh you know it's a mixture of gravel and grass right and and it's hard packed
so if it's paid it could affect it but very in a very little way very minimal but you don't go right now I don't know you can provide that information I'll get it from
you thank you uh people in Lot C which is the parking lot along the northern U part of the building on the narrow how are they going to get into the building I could not find a manand door on that
[Music] side okay thank you and uh yeah was there's there's like Mr Mard will find out okay Mr Mard was those are my
questions thank you Mr M was there a door or not I couldn't hear you guys I see remember seeing a smaller access door yeah I think there's uh nothing equivalent to like a bay door or anything but it was way to the uh
Charlie side of that building to get in there where it went because there multiple businesses there 10 Street there's at least one door on 10 Street maybe maybe two there's at least one and there was one Bay on 10 Street on there's an overhead door and at least
one B door if you look on sheet two s uh there is a door little projection about 2/3 to the right Seaside by the way towards East there's a door indicated
there door right near the corner on that side off Lot C yeah dead center a plan on C2 that whole that whole area is gravel [Music] and yeah Mr Mar you indicate a loading
Bay on that side on your plan but there's no indication of of a man your as our far folks are telling us see the base of this plan I I've had
for 20 years or something like that um and I got it from an older survey so I don't know if that I don't think that's an active loading day Mr merinar we're relying on your plan you tell us it's I don't think it
is but I don't know you let us know sir [Music] Kevin um you brought up the the fact of we're going from two tenants to three
and that's in I I think the chairman wants me to stick to my report at the moment if you got something the chair will open it up to the board yeah can you hold that for a minute Mr Gali because thank you but don't forget it please NOP right
those are my anything else Mr merar we should consider thank you very much thank you thank you Mr galdi did you have a question you were speaking about the number of tenants that's in just in this portion of the
[Music] door excuse me there's a contractor in there but so he still has right to park in this parking lot it's all part of the same okay that
is cont huh yeah have you concluded Kevin yes sir Mr mastera you have anything else no okay Mr hell do you have someone else you like we you have our planner to address
the plan again as uh Council noted existing conditions but I'd like to pull up [Music] planner s yep when you're ready if you could raise your right hand please with regard to
this application do you swear the testimony you're about to give show you the truth I do could you state your name and spell it please it's G da legally my last name is m melan i have I got married in
January so m a c m i l l we call you miss McMillan um having like the big wedding in September that's TMI I'm sorry is it a MAAC or
MC McMill you know let's keep it Aspire asire okay s p e y e r have you appeared before this board before I have not but I have appeared before board sort of in the surrounding Union County area and my
company's apology we actually represent Westfield and okay Steve rer basically introduce your backg sure so uh I have my Masters in City and Regional planning from rockers I'm also certified with the American Institute of certified planners
and my professional license with the State Board um my professional the pp the planner license my company's topology were based out of New York New Jersey Landy planning firm I first time before kennworth so happy to be here but I have appeared before other planning
zoning boards name a few Fanwood we're good um are you with h Phil Abramson I am okay good so thank you all right so uh obviously you've uh well familiar with the site
the what the that were seeking we had an opportunity to view Mr oance report and harvor report if you can please get just being s conne with this application sure so your board planner has outl I believe it was five
variances in total I will um first just really quick I mean we we went over what the proposal is I'm just going to go over a couple quick reminders just to bring it to the testimony of the variances which are all existing so this is an industrial Zone The Eye Zone um
there's an existing building warehouse It's a conforming use to the industrial use uh there's a couple block and lots within the site we're looking to do most the improvements or if not all the improvements mostly on that parking lot
that's adjacent to the to the building all the variances that we're seeking tonight they are related really to the related conditions there's no expansion to the building footprint no expansions to coverage Etc so um I can mostly skip
over our proposed conditions since we covered it but I will just say that um planning wise what the proposal is to modernize the operations and to make some better parking loading solution loading Solutions really to the site uh
industrial uses this one particular sounds very old sounds like it outdates some of the residences even nearby I heard tonight um industrial uses and demand of certain loading and loading Bas have modernized over the decades so that's
what we're here for um we have some ancillary improvements our engineer talked about some gutter upgrades some some trench drains some some of that as well but it's mostly around this uh the loading ba operations so the variances they're in
uh it's at Mr O'Brien's report um they are all existing and they're mostly about the building structure um so front yard and rear yard require 15 ft uh we have five approximately feet for the front yard
and 5 and a half for the rear yard existing a maximum perious coverage 85% is permitted in this Zone and 95.1% is what exists and is what is to remain uh open space is a 20%
requirement and uh we have 5 and existing and it's to remain there was a citation about the planning and fencing buffer to the residential requirement I will ask the board planner about that citation a little closer just to confirm it is a
variance uh because I just I saw an inconsistency in the the citation and I just want to make sure but generally speaking all of the relief is totally appropriate under the C2 criteria of the municipal land use law under that you
don't have to prove hardship the legal test is really is it a better zoning alternative with the proposal and is there no negative impact and that's what we believe that all these variances are technical in nature better operations will be
proposed with the loading and ultimately the board can look at this as better alternative of having the project overall in light of these vares so I'm just going to give the C criteria to each one um some of them I'm going to combine they're very much similar in the nature of the uh
testimony so the front and the rear yous that back we combine that testimony these are in existing uh building conditions the location's actually not even within the scope of where we're doing the loading base you know there some retaining walls
and I looked at the plans and sometimes when you put fixtures and it becomes permanently fixed to the building that's like a new encroachment you look at that that is well beyond the 15 ft that's not in the scope of those variances uh the next one I'm going to combine the open space and the
impervious coverage uh sometimes I don't want to do that because I know open space you know when I think of it in residential context that's an amenity residential but this is an industrial site we're talking about so I think in light that these are existing conditions and that we're not doing a proposal
that's going to impact those further if anything there was testimony tonight by the engineer about the loading Bay you know may have had some kind of impact on um like a storm water but there's going to be a gutter upgrade and trenching is proposed on plan that that's been looked
at so in terms of the improved coverage it's it's not an increase in in in that um and the operation itself uh like we're not parking the cars or trucks on cious so sometimes I want to look at
well as the operation in itself in an impervious coverage expansion that's not the case that those vehicles are going over what already impious so then um the planning and Fen and buffer I did look at that citation 120
[Music] 23.8 I I'm sorry let me take a step back I looked at the citation in your report and it looked like it referred to a different District so I just want to clarify I think we're referring to the
citation at 120- 23.8 f which is more about the industrial um and that speaks to about requiring a solid wall solid fence or compact Evergreen planting no less than
4 ft in height so when I reviewed the plans and I see this 6 foot board on board fence on our side there's testimony about the I mean it's offsite so I don't want to you know what disregard that not on our property but what is on our property that we can control I was going to say the vinyl
fence on the other side but on our site we have the board on board fence so overall I think we actually might technically comply with this but if in the case for not I want to air on side of caution um there is the board on board fence that you know meets that
intent of the buffer the screening which which says a solid wall solid fence or the Evergreens um I do know that this is a you know residential adjacent use there testimony the parking lot it's not
having these improvements uh proposed on that block and lot so um it's I don't want to say outside the scope but it's not um it's not in the impacted area of the new voting B uh
if I may agree with Miss fire uh yes the citation in my report is wrong uh Miss fire has much better Vision than I do and I thank you for the correction it is indeed uh item f for foxr one Follow by
spe for Bravo thank [Music] you better look good job good job okay great report um so again the fence is there so I think
professionally I think we do comply with that but to air on caution we'll ask for the variant um and our negative impact testimonies that there is that f so overall this just really brings us to the purposes of zoning and I can close out with negative impacts um it is a
conforming use there for in the eyes of policy it's consistent with your master plan your board planner did bring some points into his report about uh goals the master plan and I think the main one of those points that we're consistent with is the one that speaks about
providing adequate infrastructure to meet the needs of the industry um again this is an upgrade to operations to meet you know what is more modernized flly demand in the building that's aging and perhaps decades ago you didn't need as
many loading dayss and you know we have a different demand when it comes to Industrial operations and that's what applicant proposing and U normally I usually give you know at least three purposes of zoning I always like to give three but because this application is so
simple I'm really just going to stick to one and that's purpose G I think we uh Advanced purpose G of the municipal land use law which speaks about appropriate locations for and in this case industrial uses according to their respective
environment um an industrial Zone sounds like it's a very longstanding industrial building so this is where you would have this on the it's where exting loading is where building
is so um I believe all the benefits outweigh the detriment um substantial detriments to the Zone plan Z benefits gring the variances which are all really existing um outweigh any
detriments thank thank you very much that was refreshing any questions for Miss bar any questions from Miss SP gentlemen no question thank you no questions this board has no questions
for Miss fire which is rare thank you thank you we have no further Witnesses at this time but certainly those that have testified are are here to answer additional questions and cly some
questions to the public thank you Miss H I think if we um want to just pause a little bit before we give our opinions I'd like to have uh someone open uh make a motion to the public motion made by Mr massio seconded by Mr pantina all in
favor okay uh people in the public you're allowed to come up state your name spell your last your address and um uh you could speak to this application and this application only would anyone from the public like to come up and
speak [Music] good evening uh my name is Frank Stallings St LS I live on the corner at 12 in the boulevard so uh and I'm retired and I
stay home most of the time so I see the traffic more so on 12 Street than most people do kids go to school in the morning they come in front of my house walking down the boulevard go Harding and middle school and so forth and cars and trucks to not slow down they make
that turn to come off and this gentleman here said that a lot most of traffic comes off at 14th street from the 22 if your truck is in Cranford they don't go to 22 to come down they go up 12th Street I've had them at 6:30 in the
morning I've had them as late as 7:00 in the evening and they don't s SL down they speed and between all the cars coming from the nor the back side North because 12 Street you can turn the left or right when you come out and then you go down to 8 you have to wait for the
light a lot of people don't want to do that and I got kids that walk across here in the morning to go to school like this in on the boulevard side and that dog that horse path you call it okay we put a sign saying slow down our kids live here they don't care they fly in
five years I've been complaining to former Chief and other people that it's an issue they put one black box up there one time for about 4 days and said oh everything's fine that was about 4 years ago but since then traffic is getting
even heavier now the plan that you showed me up there for the building they're going to put those Bays on the back side on that gravel area how wide is that loot can a 60ft tractor trailer get in there are you asking the question I'm just yes a 50 foot trailer can I'm
making statements yeah I didn't hear anybody say that it's like a 150 ft or whatever it is cu the tractor trailer the trailer is 53 ft alone and you can't get in there and turn around they're not going to do it and they're pulling on the street and unloading there okay which blocks the street it's
already in AR Street got cars parking on both sides and you got all this obstruction going down and if a tractor trailers parked here they're not going to see a kid come off a Monro sidewalks going by was a very big safety issue I complained that uh Chief Su before I've
asked about the traffic officer to come out check things I've even been trying to get a hold of the city I mean the engineering board but everybody gives me a wrong number don't tell me where they're located so I can even try and sit down and talk solutions that we can do for this street and then it's getting
worse because if cars come off 22 14 Street you can't turn left 13th's a dead end 12th is the only one go straight through ninth is a dead end 10 is a one way and you're down to eth nobody wants to be down sa that L all these cars so
they fly up and down CL street without any disregard and a sign that's on the boulevard saying no trucks it says no trucks your GPS is wrong it doesn't say anything about uh fines it doesn't say anything about nothing on there tickets will be enforced
nothing so I mean there's a lot of issues that we've been trying to sit down a number of us to get a hold of the engineers in town and come up with a solution I mean I'm all for business I don't care if they build a a highrise back there so long as it's safe on the street and there's a lot of families up
and down there they got kids we all come I complain so much they didn't want to hear me no more but I I just think they ought to come in and and sit down or have a meeting with the people that live on that street and get all their
concerns before you approve this I mean we have to find a solution to keep the the kids and the fames all safe you did say you live on 12th in the boulevard right yes I live at 340 Boulevard right on the corner I'm out there in my yard working almost every day and I see these tractor trailers
coming in and out and when I'm not in the front I have a deck in the back I can see 12th Street I see them coming down that street I even see cars coming down that street acting like it's a four lane Highway and somebody going to killed and that's my concern my kids are
grown so I mean I'm not worried about my kids but there's other people that have kidss on that street thank you Mr staling we appreciate it thank you for your testimony thank you anyone else from the public please state your name and spell
your last name hi Don Frank n k can you spell it again I'm sorry Donna C Frank r n k thank you 52 nor 12 Street I'm right across from where the factory is
okay M I want to go back to the signs that they're talking about putting up there's already three signs um two by the exit of the parking lot from the and one on the corner of the paper Street of Washington Avenue in
12 Street that's been there forever that says no trucks the original sign from National tool that pointed the truck roof down 12 stet towards is still there there's a second no truck
sign across from the parking lot exit that's been for p few years and none of them got we have you said the the tractor trailers
are 50t I compare to the houses across the street from me between the C and Tra and the trailer 75st [Music] wires by time Tru
[Music] are because a and against more B going up against trucks down the [Music] street more kids on the street know my
kids were little I had my kids are families have kids on the street it's not just the kids old folks too the street and you get
worried but you were talking about before there's three there there's one of that says about the GPS that and the three at least three [Music] down need more signs and
to not coming okay thank you Frank we appreciate you anyone else anyone else from call come on up please state your name spell your last name
1143 street can you just excuse me a second gentleman in the hallway can you just please step back cuz that's going right into the mic with your conversation thank you can you repeat your name
sir did you get that no c s t n h [Music] 114 North and um stand year we're going to
have a warehouse with 11 Bas right yes it's going to be 11 trucks coming in out all day long probably all night long and uh as we all know backing up trucks that
makes uh noise out of the world I just had uh these very bad experience when uh these construction company used the lot they were welding like the the Ping that we using on the
Boulevard and I couldn't sleep on it and then there was the these uh machines back back and forth backing up back up alarms and um and so on so but uh going to their building
it's going to be you know a lot of traffic a lot of trunking traffic it's going to be area which going to be atmosphere with noise very
high and uh one of my most concerns is all these TRS coming in and out no matter where they coming why they going don't forget that he's a school next month
brers sometimes they respect they make moves and can [Music] be something very bad happen when kids going in that's what I have to say thank you very much we appreciate
it anyone [Music] else please state your name and spell your last name John re m n John did you say yes okay can I have your address please 118 or
1383 uh the gentleman I brought up that uh they're going 9 to5 with their operations uh I've been out on no 13th for 26 years trucks are out there any time from 5:00
a.m. to 8:00 p.m. at night uh you can ask downstairs dispatcher how many times I called about the trucks running all night is that going to be exasperated by these uh additions they're going to put
in so but I agree with the other folks here 18 wheelers coming down all those side streets is just atrocious on average once a week in 18 Willard get stuck on North 13th in
Franklin they have to come out and get people to move their cars because they're on the street illegally the section of road in front of the factory has existing no parking signs no idling signs trucks are out
there all day long all night I just like to see if something could be done about that and right I just think this project is going to just make it all worse thank thank you sir anyone
else see no one else from the public is there a motion to close this portion closed by mral seconded by Mr sciri all in favor okay I'd like to can I ask a question yet yeah you could ask any
question you want at this um maybe you don't have go ahead all right go ahead I just wanted to add uh one of the questions was the Turning there is a turning template on sheet 4 the parking area
access almost 125 ft and turn around area and again the E Sy has living hours I can investigate but they may not be related to this facility but they are there's no need for it and
that's where additional Bays will help facilitate not having any station REM on the street so thank you m Dale Mr yes sir Sor I I want to make two comments one I want to make a comment is that uh
you know we've heard testimony I'm I'm not speaking for the board I'm speaking for myself but so we've heard testimony uh I've heard the terms modernizing uh the operations but um in short modern ing
the operations and upgrading the site are on totally different sides of the the Spectrum with this presentation um so um you know and when uh honestly and I have to say this I'm going to go on a
record when Mr Master nardy said that this was a 20-y old plan and they didn't really have any control over it that kind of like I didn't even want to hear that that that hurt me but anyway and I'm an engineer also so um anyway that being
said um we've heard a lot of testimony from the from the public we've heard a lot of testimony from uh our engineer and our planner and um you know um you know our the engineers said mentioned something about
the lighting before and he said like oh you know when you you had a give and take with the height of height of the lights and the power of the lights and Mr Gali s about powering the the street making it light but what about the residents in the back flip forward um you know trucks is
the issue and the safety on the boulevard with the kids right turn restriction out of the driveway restrict right turns put a concrete Island in I know it's going to mess up getting into the driveway but you could put a permanent driveway a permanent concrete
whatever on the right side of the egress so that you can't make a right turn and I'll even go is far were saying and I don't speak for the board and I'm not speaking for the town either because I know the residents are probably going to freak out exuse my but on
12th on 12th right on 12th if the right term restriction goes in place and you put a sign there no right turn and no right turn across the street and the truck's still violated hand out summonses put ballards up on North 12th no right terms for trucks no entry on
you guys side but you won't get any trucks coming down North 12th either I get it I know it won't be AIT it won't be a good idea but I'm just saying is that what I'm saying is the signs that are out there now for no trucks they ignore them I get it so if you put two balls in I don't want to go that way
because that's not that's not helping the residents I'm saying as far as the applicant concerns rest strict right turns coming out of the driveway end of story they make a right turn it's up to the police department force it I guess anyone else Mr B well I mean there's a
lot of gaps especially from the engineering presentation and obviously it's winding down to um uh the fact that we have an opportunity as a board to you know I know the applicant can't address all traffic issues there's this is the
beginning of a pretty large industrial area and unfortunately there's a lot of um comingling with the residential areas but we do have an opportunity here to improve this site and things were brought up and the gaps I'm talking about um you know we don't have the
information it would have been nice if we had the the um owner here to testify that we really got some uh some clear answers as to uh the loading of the site and all that and we we had a lot of answers that were very uh
ambiguous um so you know how do we deal with that I'm not really sure um there was mention about uh a um a rendering when would we be able to see that if we really want to see a Rend landscape buffers I were brought up
I think they're very important to consider um and all these things up and you know the the few things the lighting all these things are important like I said because we have an application in front of us we have an opportunity where this building sat here for the longest time
with nothing being done to it that as a board that we can see what we could do it at at least in in this fraction um of um of the entire area be able to help and and and that's a great suggestion as far as what can we do from here cuz we
can't you know we can't legislate what happens down down 12 you know down 12 Street but um some some better engineering as far as the site to address these issues would be a nice thing for us to say any El uh Mr scad so
I heard Mr maio with a lot of his points um I have the same beliefs not having the owner here it's different from a professional telling us he's put he's putting three times the amount of bays in but he's not going to have any more traffic I don't believe it uh and it's not different from the professional
saying it than the owner saying it you know we're not going to go after a professional and say Hey you told us there was no more uh no more truck traffic and there's 100 trucks a day you don't need 11 Bay if you're getting four or five trucks a day in my opinion um
and there are signs I was looking on Google Maps and everything uh the resident stated signs across from Barking Lot as wellcome there's couple signs one of them is brand new um they're not following them so I think I think we you know this is one of the few applications that I've had more
questions after we got done with the hearing than I did before the hearing interesting anyone else Mr galdi well I had a mouthful before and I guess I'm just going to reiterate something can you speak up Mr galdi I'm
sorry sorry I had a a mouthful before and I guess I'm just going to reiterate what I said before um Nick I I do want a question you you were when you were saying right turn only that's out of the parking lot no right turnning yes yeah
I'm sorry no right turn no no right turn so and you being an engineer and our professionals could weigh in on that you could make you could choke the driveway to driveway I mean he they could make it they could make it better there's no
there's no curving shown on here in the driveway there's no um uh structure to the driveway opening so they can make it as I mean not that you want it wide but with you know hard with
har you can show there's only turn movement templates on there for one b not seven one uh and you could choke it down to how much do you need for the driveway to get in and to get out to make a left turn in to make a right you
know get in and left out and left out right exactly and would it be would we be in our ability to even ask for a Ballard out there because we all know tractor trailers love to drive over curbs well however they make however they make the
driveways up to up to then if they put Ballers out there Hey listen I got I've seen I I in my experience I've seen Ballers and they they drive over Ballers yeah but at least at that point if if the owner puts
Ballard and his tenants destroy his property at least now the owner has a a little meat in the game so well you would think whatever ball concrete Island whatever but you know that is that going to help it might help um is
it going to be enforced I don't know is it um you know is I it's a start if you choke it down it'll be harder for them to make a left going north on 12th Street and into that lot no they could make the driveway look they could
engineer the they could engineer the driveway if you put restrictions on it to get out look they get in is not an issue getting out they have to make a left design the driveway so you can make a left but you can't make a right so
what do you do maybe you got to put up a u a make a make fix Jersey Barrier and whatever you can modify the Jersey would 10 yeah and then you heighten the you heighten the curve from a regular 6 in to 18 in so that that truck's going over
it's going to make a lot of noise and it's going to be a pain in the ass they'll actually it could be designed it could be designed is what we're saying and that's the thing that actually Walmart actually did it one side and we would need the their engineer to present that design but I I think once you do it to restrict it that they're only making
a left out I think it would be harder to make a left in going northbound on as well well that would be a good thing yes and that's that's exactly what I was agreeing with you now I think on on that on that part on that part and uh Mr ha
or the engineer could could test to or the owners here could test to it I know from put speaking with other industrial use owners they'll say with the straightest face I don't control my trucks they come in whatever they come
in by ways they come in by whatever they come in by Google they come in okay fine but if they come in and they can't get in the driveway they're going to figure out a way to get in the driveway right um to the board's Point um we had
a Kevin's Point specifically we had a lot of engineering questions that really didn't get answered the thought of going by a 20-year-old site plan that the engineer had no control over uh was really
disappointing um I I don't think we'll be finishing tonight but things that on that list that lighting Landscaping drainage traffic a comprehensive knowledge of all Ingress and egress to the building and
somehow engineering that Southeast driveway off of 12th Street to be limited so that it's harder to make a left turn into that driveway and it's
limited to a left turn out of that driveway anyone else just as far as the um from a planning perspective I you know to to be able to say that it meets the um no detriment requirement I think we don't have enough information to say
that it doesn't especially the fact that the um I don't know the I didn't see any math as far as this the additional seven days and how that works it's not clear to me to be able to say that there's no DET real quickly chairman I I wouldn't
say I I've lived there for a few years now with these owners I'm glad I'm glad they're there I'm glad it's industrial I'm glad they're using it for the use that they are um yeah even though
sometimes the dumpster is there at 4:30 I'm still rather them there than a million houses or apartments so we welcome you um you have some neighbors some industrial neighbors that cast also
a bad light to this property because there's one directly next to you that blocks up the street all the time all day long um but I am glad you're there um I'm hopefully this keeps your business driving
so that's it sir you good okay so I have listened real close to all the testimonies uh specifically um the the residents and the residents
uh enlightened us with noise safety traffic patterns they did their research and um what I come up with there is that going down 12 Street every truck that goes down there is not going to that particular property it's an ongoing
problem that we have in our entire town not to make light of what you testified I think you're 100% correct that they shouldn't be doing what they're doing but there is noise ordinances the truck should not be running all night long they should not have have their lights
on they should not be welding and disturbing people who are in that area we have ordinances and and and um uh things in place that tell the uh people
in these commercial and industrial areas what they're allowed to do what they're not not allowed to do but we're not the enforcement body and we can't do really anything about that while we need to consider and take that into consideration as Mr Mao said we have the
opportunity now to adjust what's going on on that property so we don't impact it in a u a worse situation we have to try to make it better but based on what I'm hearing from the board and I would
tend to agree that the preparation on the pretty much the engineering side left a lot of questions wide open and um I I think where we're going with this is that we feel that we need more
information and the information needs to be thorough this is a high impact area um you never going to stop hearing the trucks out there residents we know that but they know that but you have seven
more Bays you have 11 Bays it's going to bring in more Trucking but maybe just maybe if the testimony when they come back is such that I'm putting these in so I could restrict that nighttime truck it's going to be between the hours of 9
to5 and 9 to5 is not just the people who are administrative people but truckers off loaders and everything else because I have a business that I work from 6:30 to 4:30 in the morning and every once in a while I get a truck and at 7:30 and
8:00 I can't control that sometimes but it's not the norm you can look away on sometimes when that happens but it should not be the norm so we need to take all of those to considerations um so at this point I think the board is looking
to uh make a motion to either adjourn this or Mr the hell what I think what we're going to do is continue continue continue this um
and we would like you to prepare maybe a little bit differently come back I don't think we have to notice or anything like that right no we have we we've heard you said all excellent suggestions and ideas and again unfortunately the owners were not available to see for religious
purposes but we'll make sure [Music] that uh I'm certainly tomorrow morning compile a list of all the issues that were here we'll have a meeting on site with our professionals and property owners and
look into the suggestions that the board have made lighting Landscaping access driveway uh and the light it's all it's all good they want it to work okay M I just want to close that with one other thing um although you know that we have
a learned board here we have Engineers contractors The Architects we have everything going on up here so uh the one thing I don't want um anyone to misconstrue is that although we made suggestions on how we think it could work we're not asking you to go back
there and do that we're asking you to come and present the plan to us that you think is going to work this was just brainstorming spitballing all of those things they all have um valid ways as Mr
pantina said and and Mr uh galdi said we're not planting the seed we're telling you these are some of the things that we're thinking of I what I guess I'm saying is don't back and said well you said I could put this curb over here and put this wet over there we need your thought process
and if that's it that's fine too but the questions that are going to be asked need to be answered and researched prior to next and when we do have maybe our probably invite your professionals to maybe me us on site or also to discuss
that that would be fine and it would be advantageous for you to have the unit here I don't even think that this will not work without him here I don't disagree okay anyone else yes sir I'm sorry you done chairman are you done chair I'm always
done well done uh a thought for your consideration uh as all the board members have pointed out there's a lot of items that have not been addressed more technical nature would the
board consider taking this application back to a technical Review Committee yes to review the site plan concerns before proceeding to the board or would this
board like to hear the applicant directly I would in I would invite invite a technical review I would invite that think that's going to shake out a lot of the the questions and before they get here
Mr okay I would still request that it be carried AC the next meeting without further notice and if we're not prepared at that time just I think the board should carry to a date specific assuming we're not meeting on Tuesdays um just so
the applicant does not have to review uh a month might be tight I don't know because there's I had a number of wanted to see um and want to do a TCC first um and go go ahead I'm sorry the
board may wish to consider uh carrying this application to our April 10th meeting so that this meets Mr rego's requirement of a date specific uh that way if the board
meeting should change change for May m the applicant is covered uh and should the board make that decision that we might want to give guidance to the public and if the applicant's not ready on the 10th we can always carry it again they will not be ready on the 10th to
may we will not be ready to review the plans that they will not have ready for them so you're saying they're not we and they will not be ready by next meeting it has to carry to April this what you're saying to May I'll tell you what rather than throw it
out Mr Master nard is there any way you could be ready for an April 10th meeting including the TRC I can be ready I don't know do our best yeah we'll car the April 10th if they're ready we we move ahead but I think TCC
is a great idea so so we're going to go with that and we are also going to say that this will carry to either April 10th or the next meeting that we have if the date should change to the the fourth Tuesday of the
month okay okay which would give you a little bit more time which you think you're going to need stipulate a extension okay um I'd like to say one thing uh it's obvious to me sitting here that the that the issue of traffic in that area is weighs heavy uh the public
may love comments the board knows their town I'm sure they're aware of it legally in that this is a permitted use in terms of traffic this board is only permitted to
consider access to the property getting in getting out and traffic and P traffic patterns on the property if this was a Ed variance we could go beyond that and talk about the area traffic but we are
limited in terms of considering traffic to the site basically itself and see get an in and out the chairman made the point earlier which I totally agree with given the fact that there are problems those we don't enforce that that's a
governing body situation handing out tickets uh having the police down there so our our charge is not to how do you get from 22 to the to the site that's too far beyond our jurisdiction we're looking at maybe there's some
directional issues uh n rais some points about getting in and getting out uh Bob did so we're kind of focusing and I want the public to know we're not here to to look up and down the street as much as some of the board members may
want to in terms of parking and who's speeding this applicant is we're mainly focused on the site getting in getting out uh traversing the site with with 18 wheelers or whatever's there uh and I think Steve knows that so let's not look
for what's happening three blocks up the road or down the road cuz we we really can't can't do anything about that well on on that note just to on that note and on Chairman's note U yes okay we're not here
to fix right local traffic issues but we can comment on access and ESS oh absolutely and in which case yes I said it and mral said [Music] it about the the right turn restrictions
and potentially left turn in restrictions I think that's that's not that's that well again me personally uh that's not necessarily A hey that's our suggestion you go figure it out that's a comment that I have on record and and
and if we we as the board just like the professionals that we hire can make comments that need to be resolved and I think they should consider that unless they come back and say oh totally impossible we're never going to be able to get a truck through here we have every right to look at access left turns right turns my point was if we're
getting two and three and four blocks away our our jurisdiction evaporates we we don't have that power as a planning board with a permitted use I'm glad you cleared that up ni because my my point there was I didn't want you get it on
the head huh you get it on the head I didn't want someone to come back and say well this is what you told me you I thought you wanted no right you know it's just here's a suggestion let's let's look at it from that perspective you know but with that being said is there anyone else okay so let's try to
figure out how we're going to make a motion here and that would be that we are going to have a TRC TCC yes TR TRC trcc TRC in korth TRC in Kenworth to um
TRC prior to the meeting correct prior to April 10th uh Mr Mna is indicated he could be ready by then okay and if the applicant uh we would need those
plans a week before the TRC so we can review them we have the meeting then we would need time for them to revise if needed and then resubmit us to do our reports and
then to the board that's very ambitious I don't see it happening but he says he can do it he can do his plan but then is the rest of the process 14 days but you need a date certain yes okay so April 10th may be the date the yeah the 10th
may be just the where are weer a placeholder yeah and if that's so we can warn the public to check in beforehand to see if it will be heard because we will know we know pretty much right now no
but we can give them definitive information a week out okay so again they don't have the notice no sir no okay all right is there a motion to uh continue this with a
TRC uh prior to the hearing on April would it be the hearing April 10th April 10th motion made by Mr gal seconded by mrad yeah 7 7 p.m. you need a roll call
in this room yeah yeah Mr Cerna yes Mr pantina yes Mr naio yes Mr scary yes Mr D yes Mr DeLuca yes Mr MDI yes and Mr yes okay for the just if I may for the
public what we just did is that the team with Mr Hil is going to get together with our professionals somewhere in be in within the next two weeks let's say they're going to have what we call a TRC meeting to go over everything that we talked about on April 10th we're going
to be back here there'll be no notice to that so just know that April 10th is our meeting we may find out either ahead of time that they're not prepared or ready then we will probably just carry it to the next month am I correct yes sir you
got it okay guys and time to make the decision is extended sure we'll state to what we need okay anything Mr uh Mr uh the public may wish to call Burl Hall a week before April 10th and they can tell
you whether it's on or not April 10th the only problem right now for us is that we may be changing board meeting dates so we can't tell you when the next meeting is yet but we'll know then
yes is that okay sh that that's perfect and I will take even though it's closed I will take your question you said call H who's in contact uh should be building department C do I have to do the trc's now for this no Kathy you want to maybe
give them your phone number and name so they a call or you or Wanda orever who would actually get to qualify now of for meetings there Cathy is that Wanda you would call Wanda galdi at the bill Department you ask for Wanda galdi
she'll let you know if it's on she she'll set that per okay okay anything else Mr h no other than thank you for your time and the suggestions and look forward to our TRC thank you have a great night good night now next meeting I'm going to be doing a
quick resolution for consistency okay just so just all we have we have a little bit more business guys before we go home okay um Kathy [Music] um any comments for the go to the board no comments for the go to the
board okay um I have one happy Easter to everyone Happ Easter okay we're going to open the meeting to the public anyone want to open the meeting to the public open by Mr scary seconded by Mr galdi all in favor anyone from the public wishing to speak no seeing none the
meeting will be closed by Mr dundo seconded by Mr beluca all in favor a motion to adjourn by Mr scary seconded by Mr maio all in favor happy East everybody I don't need so much Str