Okay, we'll open up the October 7th civil commissioners meeting. Elaine I >> Bill Watson I hope >> um it doesn't appear that we have anybody online. So uh we can start with
um first appointment on Chrisman Farms. She'd like to update us and Sure. Um, so thanks for meeting with me. Uh, we just submitted the revised civil site plan yesterday or
actually I think they may have just uploaded it today. Um, because we've changed the site pretty significantly. You know, where I'm not running all the way through the site down to Kushman. We're actually jumping out on Copper
Beach. So, we save a lot of wetlands. There were a whole bunch of reasons for doing it. Um, but the unit count stays the same. So, that hasn't changed. You know, >> what's that again? The number of units. >> The unit count. >> What is the number now?
>> It's uh 144. I think the original approval for mass housing was like 160 something, but I eliminated a third building, which I thought was problematic. It was close to Copper Beach. It was a a nice way to create more buffer.
>> Oh. >> So, and I ended up with two fourstory buildings instead of three threestory buildings. So, but I was able to keep about must be 150 ft of woods that I can just leave, you know, and just keep it
towards the railroad tracks. Um so the gallonage I I have here uh and I actually um these are identical to what was uploaded just for your use only you know. Okay, >> 11 by some 11 by7
take a quick peek and on page 17 16 and 17 probably what you guys are interested in. Uh, and you can see on 16
there, you know, we're tying into a force vein down there on Marian. Um, and on 17 you can see the the proposed pump station off the building there. Um, and in this
set of plans, it's all >> that's married right there. >> Yeah. to be determined. You know, I I typically would hire a we used to use onsite, but I think they just got bought out by um bus and O'Neal, you know, but they'll, you know,
design the pump station, work with um few folks is the, you know, pipe size and everything else. >> So, but you can see on 16 where I'm exiting right out to Copper Beach there. So this is cover beach right here,
right? I don't see it labelled. That's all. This is cover. >> It is. That's Copper Beach. >> Yeah. And this is Marian, >> correct? >> Okay. The dwelling. >> Yeah, that's what I thought. I make sure I was in the right place here. And I did, pardon the um
and that's more just the uh so that's the unit count bedroom layout. Um gallonage at 110. Actually the last two we ended up needing some statistics for D on another
project I've got. So everybody was interested in what were your actual versus design flows. >> We ended up in the 40s on both of them because fixtures have changed and you know every you do a better job on on water. So I ended up just using 55% for
a percentage on actual. So it looks like it's, you know, say 15,000 gallons a day is probably what it's going to be on an average. Not peak, but an average daily flow. >> So most of the most of these are two
bedrooms. That's what I'm looking at. Yeah, there's a few threebs, but not many. Well, uh, so 40 B's, it's 10% on the threes, >> and then the twos we've got at, um,
>> 32, so maybe a third. >> Oh, okay. I'm reading this wrong. All right. >> Yeah, the architect set this up. So, I'll on page 16, there's a good representation down in this.
>> Oh, they have a right table >> down. Oh, down here. Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. The suit flow table. >> Need a magnifying glass for me. >> So, these have just been presented back to the ZVA. Is that the way it is? >> Yes. >> Yep. Uh what happened is um even the
entrance off of Marian uh the short story is that there's that paper road that goes through the site and we had a few retaining walls in there which apparently is a no no even though the lots up top there nobody can ever build on them but we had to pull everything
out of the paper road. Um no obstructions. You can pave in there if it's down in grade, but you can't block if somebody wanted to build on the unit and go to. So that's that necessitated the change,
which honestly ended up being better because now all of the traffic, you know, it sweeps down to the railroad side and is buffered by the building. >> Okay. >> So it's even further away from Copper Beach. So, I it ended it took us a lot
of time to re-engineer everything, but I I think it's a better approach. >> It's going to be a one-way street >> going out to uh Copper Beach. >> Can't come down. >> Obviously, if it's one way going out, someone comes off of this parking lot, they can't go down here to come over
traffic. >> Well, I'm going to have gates at both sides. >> Okay. >> So, >> tenants will have to have a key pass here. >> Correct. Yeah. Some some kind of setup. >> Okay. Yeah, I mean the neighbors don't trust the gates, but you know, they're they just don't want the development,
but it's going to be private gates at both sides. So, >> um because that's the big I get it. You know, that's the big fear in town is >> Yeah. >> Well, that's why Copper Beach is closed it unto itself and >> Right. Right. So, that but
>> And you don't want that traffic going through your development. >> No, no, I want it private. I keep trying to tell everybody I don't want it to there either. >> So the main entrance in egress is going to be here. >> That's the two-way. >> Yeah. And then this is just one way. Oh, >> right. I was going to do two-way, you
know, and and then I got talked into, you know, all of a sudden somebody said, "Why don't you just do a oneway?" I'm like, "Yeah, you know, I I can live with that." >> Was it the two-ways goes to Copper Beach or Marian Drive? >> Marian Drive. >> Copper Beach is one is is exit only.
>> Excellent. in the so you're going to get more you know a little morning traffic if people are going to work you know but most the if you read the traffic report I think they estimate 65% of the traffic is south you know
want to go this way anyways because you got a light up there that's a pain in the neck now you know I mean it has nothing to do with cover beach has nothing to it has to do with the satellites and the whole intersection should be fixed that's not your problem and that's our that's our problem actually They if they coordinated their license, that would be a whole different sort situation. But
>> yeah, school when school lets out. >> Yeah. I mean, >> is loading up for the day if it's very busy in that street, >> but they'll be it'll be all gated. >> All gated get in here for coming off that parking lot is that, you know, code
door push button to get in, >> right? Yeah. A fob or something like that. So, there's a company out of North Battleboro that does that. So based on this area scenario um the title five flow is you're you're
calculating it's 14,278 that's a title five >> no the title five is the 25,960 >> 25,000 okay >> 26,000 >> makes I thought the last time we talked was bigger that's right so that's the
one we got to think So, what approvals are you waiting for? >> ZBA. >> CBA >> water. >> You know, I have a meeting with them next week. Okay. I don't know what's going on. I I'm told
it's okay now, but I've not dated it. Okay. So, >> well, the more term is off. It's done. >> That's what I heard. Yeah. >> And we've had and we can tell you because we've had what, nine, not including this, nine applications, the sewer connections in the last month.
>> Wow. That doesn't surprise me. I'm sure it's been clamped down for a while. So, >> and that include the big ones that are coming down the pike like this and maybe others that we get the mall. >> Oh, is there Yeah, I think I heard. Is
there Yeah, they're thinking about another one. >> So, >> yeah, that's supposedly that and then maybe a big warehouse retail store. >> Oh, at the mall. >> At the mall. Macy's spot. But >> that wouldn't be a bad thing. Yeah.
>> Competing with Plymouth. So, I don't know where that stands. Actually, I just read where Plymouth wasn't it down behind Cordage Park or something. I think it's Pulsey, you know, doing like 90 units or something. They just something. >> Yeah. Yeah. They're having a diff the
paper that the the paper that on the line paper says they're having trouble. They have like five parcels and right they're kind of combined >> using two vacant parcels and combined stuff here and I don't know. >> That's a big outfit. They'll they'll figure it out.
>> Yep. Yeah, there is there it's active down here. We just built in Plymouth. I've mentioned that to you guys. You know, we moved to Plymouth. So, a great great spot. >> So, a concern I have a question if this
project does go forward, how do we as a commission and department address the uh pump station issue on this? How does how does that play out? I haven't really come across a situation like this other
than what we did at uh Marian Drive for the mall. You know, would this pump station be something that these guys are maintaining or is that something we >> res any new residential hookup they're responsible for? They're pumping
>> the pump chambers and pumps. >> I just want to see how the commission feels on that. just just before we get too far ahead of ourselves on this so everyone's clear. >> I I think my my position would be number
one is that the pump station's designed with your oversight and approval so that it's compatible with what we're dealing with if and when we do make a decision if we do to take it over. Uh and that's going to come up on another discussion later
on for my meeting. >> This uh the way it's planned out now would tie into the Marian Drive force man that picks up the Jones River pump station and the Marian Drive pump station. So there's a 10-in force man
that you'd be pumping into. >> Um I think right now we'd have to get CDM involved with >> Yeah. Check all that. Yeah. >> Yeah. flowwise and everything else that you know the plant can take if all three stations kicked on at the same time
would it overflow our headworks. Yeah. Right now it it gets up there but their flow when they did head works they actually elevated our channels so that as things searchcharged it wouldn't overflow and it's it worked out great. uh that this additional flow we'd have
to definitely consider how it affects us and if there's any modifications that we'd have to make so we don't get an overflow at head works. >> Can you just explain this to me again just so it went into Marian Drive it would go down to the Jones River pump station?
No. >> No. Would it would So Jones River pump station's force man pumps >> Oh, that's okay. It's the other way. All right, I got it. that has its own check valve on it and let's say this tied into it or existing the Marriott drive pump
station once that kicks on >> that's pumping into that void. >> Okay, I get it. >> So now you've got the flow from Jones River coming on the mall if that pump kicks on at the same time and let's
say this capacity kicks on at the same time. Now you've got all that volume coming in and one you have to overcome the pressure which I want to say it's around 30 PSI but we can have CDM look at flow CS on it but if there's a
modification we have to do on our end and then just ownership of the pump station and how that plays out we have to you know at least consider that and how we operate on that end >> and we can't they they can't come up and go underneath the tea and gravity feed
down Marion at Marion Road Station, pump station. >> There isn't right now. There's not a gravity line. I'm not sure. >> No, there's not a gra the gravity line doesn't go up to the T line. >> It stops at stops at at Royson >> pretty much. Yeah, at the at the storage
facility place. >> And I'm not sure where we lay out here relation to the >> I don't think I think you'd have to get you have to get permission from T to jack underneath the >> That's very correct, right? Unless there sleeve there already. A lot of times they put a sleeves in that reason there.
>> I know the water department might have one. >> I don't think we ever did. We never did one. >> No, not that I remember. >> I know there was talk of it and then it got >> very complicated and it would have flayed a lot of things. So >> was that a talk of what >> a sleeve underneath vero tracks
>> to bring this gravity line up farther. >> Yeah, it's interesting. I don't think it shows probably just a thought. having it would be less be less of a pump station because now you're just pumping up to let it gravity flow all the way down to the Marion Drive. So,
>> hey, you're up high enough. >> Oh, yeah. >> And the funny thing is is recently I was looking at something for the plans over there and I want to say there's a 4 in sleeve that comes under the railroad tracks
>> really. And I don't know if that was something that >> I see I I I distinctly remember putting these things in that >> it may exist. So that could give us >> I'm going back 25 years now. I remember doing >> there was supposed to be one underneath on 3A down in the center of town here. They never put it in and that's why they
had to go in between the two buildings to to circumvent. >> Yeah. >> Just but yeah I there was some way to get it up and gravity feed down to that. It's already set up >> at least get it. It's just going to be reflected. It's going to be a little high pressure there. >> One feather can go back up to our
station that's already in place. But I don't know. Just a thought. >> It seems like there's options. >> Yes. >> For hooking in. >> Yeah. >> I could I So Kico does work with MBTA. >> They're tough to deal with sometimes. >> Yeah.
>> But to try and find maybe they have an asbelt. They're famous for not having ads with >> as belts. But, you know, to try and do a little research to see if if it's not there, can we can we bore underneath? You know, it might be better than a pump
station. >> Yeah. >> You know, less mechanical, >> right? >> Well, that's good. That was my thought. >> Right. >> And they let you do that with the right, you know, it does they do it all the time. >> They would allow it. Is that what you're saying? With the right
>> just something to look at as we go forward. There's a less pump station after you in the future all the way up. Grab your feet already. >> No, he's problem. >> And everybody's trying to upgrade pump.
>> Yeah. I mean, I think that would be the the better way to go. Definitely. If And we like I said, it's a sleeve. That's all it is. It's It's only 30 feet, 50 feet maybe. I don't know. There only Well, this is it two tracks. There's this one, right? >> I think just one track. >> Just one, I think.
>> So, >> and Marian Drive is heading >> Oh, yeah. Yeah, there's plenty from that from there that there plenty of float. I mean, you know, plenty of gravity from there. >> I would think the elevation >> and and it would also connect
>> other property that should be sewered to the sewer that's now industrial. >> We we had talked about it in when they were putting in the pump station, but we didn't decided that as you're saying, no one really wanted it. No one up above was asking for it. you know, any of
those buildings, but theoretically, if it goes by, then they will probably jump in at some point in time, depending upon how we build up there. >> And how far down would it be? Would it be in the right away?
I'm assuming, you know, or is it outside the asphalt or >> It's been a while since I've looked at stuff out there, but I would imagine it travels in in the right way of the railway, >> right? >> I wouldn't see it going outside. >> Okay. So, maybe that's not too terrible.
>> Just a possibility. >> The road is pretty old anyways as far as >> Yep. We didn't just pave that, right? Not yet. >> I don't think about five years or something before They let you on the road.
>> This is up for the T state. >> We we own on the road Kingston. We took it over. They >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Accepted. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Yes. We made an arrangement with the >> All right. >> At the tracks.
>> So, it's just this conduit then. See if >> Yes. >> If it's not there, see if MBA would be an animal for that. >> Yeah. >> Whatever. What size line do you think or conduit like >> you know unfortunately for memory it's 4
in but I could be wrong >> but but would that that's not enough right would you want 6 in or >> for gravity for that kind of volume you probably want eight >> six or eight probably eight more >> okay
>> but again if gravity flow it might be something or or if we use that as a >> yeah this take a look at it. >> If they pumped it and then went gravity to Marian Drive, it might save a pump station.
>> The only other uh thought is on our sewer system left to be done. Copper Beach is on the list. So, I don't know if the timing works, but this is meant to be sewed coming out from in the process of
looking at designs. But what they're saying is they should come down here and run down the road and gravity feed. >> The alternative would be that this is going to be sewer gravity down the bottom and that pump station that's >> at the elementary school had to be beefed up anyways. So it we fix this the elementary school
>> if the flow went the opposite direction. >> Yeah. Because you're taking everything down to there and then you're pumping it back up. It's >> up to your engineers to figure out. We'll let you have it flow. Wasn't the preference. Just got to hook up. >> Although the timing >> Yeah. I mean, how far away do you think
you are from Papa Beach? >> Well, we're talking about that on the agenda later on. Um, I have if everything goes away, Brian wants it to go. We'll be digging this thing in the ground and
>> has any months. >> Has anyone up there shown interest in wanting it? I know those houses about the age 20, 30 years old. >> The only reason it wasn't sued before everything sued around it except for that because they were brand relatively new. >> They're brand new. Yeah. But they're surrounded by wetlands as you probably know >> and that that they're right on the
that's why they're next. If you look at the plan, everything's sewing except that street. >> So we sue with the school. >> Would the pump station have to be upgraded if the apartment flows came this way? >> I think it' be a combination of the combination of what the flow here's what
20 houses or something. And then we have a we have a small pump station for the elementary school which is from what Dave said kind of too small. So it was going to have to be fixed anyways. And so I mean it's an another engineering
decision but knowing this and putting all this together you know figure that out. It may not be timing wise for you, but at least >> I mean, I'll bet I'll bet it's three years out from or maybe two and a half years from, you
know, letting somebody live there. I mean, it takes time. >> Maybe with one building and then second building might be three years. >> Better for us, right? What I can do is try and dig a little more deeper into that railroad crossing down there
>> and um I'll share that information and >> that'd be the easiest. >> Something else just like Brian said, if we're doing something on Copper Beach Drive and we have a pump station already that's underserved, it's handled school, but if we were doing something to accept
your flow, let's say Copper Beach Drive, it makes sense to >> Yeah, this is a easy it's an easier thing >> work on that existation. Yeah, >> we make that work for everyone. But, you know, we can let you get through some of your other hurdles, but at least it's it's good to see, you know, what you've
got >> in theory at this point. Now, we would be able to help you with the wastewater side anyway. >> So, other than water, I I don't think there I think they're going to review the traffic study, but there's really
nothing with the traffic study either. So, it's really up to the ZBA, you know. >> Okay. when when do you meet with them again? >> Uh I think we're going to push it because the we just uploaded the civil and um Pat doesn't have enough time. So I think I don't know but I would say
it's whenever they can meet next maybe maybe several weeks. >> Okay. Now do you do you need a vote from us or something from us? >> No, it's probably just a um you know like an availability you know
something like that. that there's x amount of fuel available for them. We'll bank it for right now. >> I mean, we should probably talk about the connection fee. >> Yeah. >> But but other than that, I think it's just a a soft letter. >> Okay.
>> Because I'm not I'm not bringing any gas to the site. It's all electric. So, I I have the will serve on the electric sewer, water. That's it. Yeah. Well, if all the other stuff drained, so
>> I think what we need to do that all that civil plan that just went in. Yeah. And that's a good site for storm water because it's Kingston's oil. >> So I think what we need to do is at least take this under adisement, talk about it and if you look at the plans,
just kind of think about it, have a discussion. But I think our position it's definitely >> something we would be want to do. >> Yeah, we have the low to sell it off.
>> I think I was short one so I don't I don't need one but you keep >> So we'll get you a a statement saying that there's a solidity for the project as possible. >> All right. Be right. Okay. >> Yeah. I'm hoping something will
happen before the end of the year probably with ZA. I don't think there'll be much more time than that. >> So that you know I guess look at this later. >> Yeah, because there's some good gradient and brain probably around 60 something like that. I can get a better look at
theo. >> What do these purple mean? >> That are that's the land that I control. >> Okay. I don't know what was intended there a long time ago because you could say they had all these little tiny lots.
>> Yeah, these are problems and tax hidles and people in one person's in Russia. I mean, they're not buildable lots. >> I don't know if it was a campground a long time ago or >> back in the early 1900s where I I live up off of Smith Lane. There was all
these tiny 25 foot by 100 foot lots 25 foot 2500 square feet. Typically they tons of tons of and they started adding them together as that time all paper streets all set up a whole benum park the whole the whole area >> that was very typical everywhere in
Massachusetts particularly >> and they in the what became a legal minimum was I think 50 by 100 brain where I grew >> five yeah 25 was not big enough 50 and um they're everywhere and uh but what's
interesting these are 40 so they may have Some of these were again being a L from a land surve. They were like 1,000 ft long and 20 ft wide. But these 40 foot ones, they was they were all wood lots.
>> So you go in with your sled and you cut down wood in the in the uh in the in the you cut down stuff in the summer or fall. Then you go in your sled and you you slide it out. You have a 25 ft right away and then you leave the other 25 to grow and get bigger and that's how and
they were 1,000 ft long 800 feet long. So that that's another way these could have come up and then they got cut up by like you said for cottages or something else. >> See I'd love to get that one in the middle because the town owns that. >> I think it was an old tax title town just got it but there's no access to it.
You can't you can't get to Marian Drive because Thomas Street stops and you can't get to Marian Drive because you'd be going right through the wetlands. So there's no access to it. But you know, I think the town has to put it out to public. So we just kind of designed
around it. >> Yeah. You'd have you'd have the politicians selecting to put it up for auction, >> right? I think with the politics with the new development and Rex's going to put another I'm like, "Okay, I'm not kryptonite. I'm not touching that." Nobody would do you again.
>> Never mind. So, >> well, when there's something built around it, then it changes everything, >> right? Yeah. Yeah. All right. So, anyway, >> we're good. >> All right. >> Okay. We'll get you that left. >> Okay.
>> All right. Well, thanks for your time, G. All right. See you later. Good luck. Thank you with everybody else. that council there. >> Who's that? >> Oh, let's see. Is that Oh, that's Steve
from Town Country. >> Oh, Steve. Okay. He doesn't have his hat on. That's why I can't. >> Is he gonna Yes. >> Do they want to talk about it tonight? >> Yeah, I think so. Yeah. >> Um, just trying to see where we can um we can probably talk about it under
number five. >> Yeah. >> Sewer system final phase expansion cost estimates. So if you want to talk about that. >> Sure. >> Okay. >> That's fine. Somebody here. So
just following up. We had an informal meeting um with Town of Country which we've talked about several meetings ago. There was some uh interest as we've gone back with Town of Country uh
Park over two years ago when we revised a letter of understanding with Town of Country and they asked for an informal meeting a week or so ago, a week ago and we met with them. I met with them and uh
there's some real interest in wanting to exercise their right to connect to the sewer given what they've been dealing with on their own system and we had a very informal inform uh informative meeting
in that they've done a lot of work. I actually I got a um and I asked CDM to send me a plan of what was originally proposed back in five or six years ago. >> Yeah. >> Which had a force main from
town of country where their existing sewage treatment plant is out to Route 53. But um seeing Steve's on the Steve, do you want to introduce yourself maybe? >> I think you have to unmute them.
>> Wait a minute, Steve. Okay, Steve, are you able to unmute? >> I just did it. >> Oh, perfect. >> Okay. >> Hi, Steve. Um, can we just brief introduction about what we talked about last uh week?
>> Sure. My name is Steve Delano. I'm the president of Town and Country. I have been for the last four years. Uh, and I've been pushing since I became president the idea of hooking into town sewage.
Uh, the treatment plant we have now was put in in 1985. We are licensed for 15,000 gallons per day. It's my understanding we don't reach that level. We're we're generally in the 9 to 10,000
gallons per day and uh it's it's getting old and it's getting more expensive to run it. Uh I just got the most recent bill. Uh, I mean it's $5,000 a month just for the
monthly service and they had to do something last a couple weeks ago and that came to another $11,000 and that just goes on and on and on and uh we're running about $130 to $140,000 a year running this plant which
is the major major expense on our uh HOA here. I know that when we first bought the park, it was brought up and there was two or three people who kind of put the fear of God into
everybody about hooking into the storage system that was going to cost everybody $25,000 out of their pocket and and everybody just boked at it. And uh you know nothing was really explained to them about the cost and the period time
how long it would take the to pay the cost and all the pipes are here. They're in the street. I don't know what the uh line is that goes to the treatment plant. Uh it could be 4 in, it could be
6 in. Uh the only way I could find out is if I go to the maintenance building and see if it's in the original plans. what size pipes are in the street. We have three pumping stations. One at the back end of the park which borders
uh Winthre Street. We have one about a third of the way down from uh Summer Street. And that's that's the one that's pumped and that one is pumped up to the top to where the treatment plant is. And that pumping station pumps it
into the treatment plant. And uh the treatment plant is RBC pumps up here. >> They go >> up here. >> Do you know how old the plant is? >> It was put in in 1985.
>> And is that the same leeching field or has that been replaced? >> We have We have two open air leeching pits. Were they both installed in 85 as well or is that >> uh one of them we rebuilt about three years ago according to Western and
Samson. The other one doesn't need to be rebuilt just yet. I keep budgeting it every year, but they say it's fine. So, >> but your flow is a little bit lower than the design capacity was. giving you some time.
>> Yeah. >> Um, so what just to put this in perspective, the uh the sketch that was done several years ago by CDM back in part of the TMDL study phase, >> right? They estimated this for West Main
out to a point and Route 53 to be in the in the area of $2 million, you know, and it's obviously would have gone up in that period of time. But um and I think for this we we need to this is really a more of a discussion going forward. But
um as I mentioned at the meeting and we're going to talk about more later on, CDM has put together a budget for a number of all the balance of the sewer areas that weren't done by the original plan. And I have that to talk about. And
after looking at this plan, um I think there's a much more simple and economical way to do this and avoid the pumps the force man which is exactly right coming in that whole industrial park also should be on the
sewer. It wasn't on the original because it wasn't there. >> Yeah. >> But there's a real need to put for industrial park type uses just like uh Marian Drive. That's why this other sewer coming across the railroad tracks is important. Um,
we would come straight from where your where the pump station was shown on the plane we talked about. Oh, straight over to the industrial park. It might even be a pump station. Might be gravity >> to Good lumber right in front of them. >> Yeah, it's all downhill. I went drove in there after I went to your meeting and
it's it's it could be just a gravity line and then have a pump station because this is all downhill. So the pump station would be back here and let it be part of that project. So that the capital cost for doing what we talked about is that $2 million go away and
there's nothing in the street up here. You know, this whole section is left alone because there's nothing else there. >> Okay. >> There's no other there's nothing else up here. If we're going to do Tower Road, we'll come down Tower Road. >> Yeah. >> But that's also in the future.
>> So I mean I think there's a lot more cost a cost effective way to get in. You see what I'm talking about? Instead of going like this right there, >> good rich UPS. >> And this is all downhill. >> So construction, >> which is probably the property you'd have to cross to get out to that section
>> other than maybe I don't know if there's any doesn't look like there's any weapons in this section at the moment. >> No, the Brook the Brooks Brackets Brook here is it called goes out this way. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Basset Brook. >> Basset Brook. Not Brackets. Bass Brook. But that No, I was looking at that just before you said that. It would make
total sense to do that because you could put a gravity fed in as well as the force main and then pick up all these properties all the way down. >> So you're talking about like uh 300 feet 400 feet of gravity sore with a manhole in the middle somewhere and then go to a
pump station and then again if we go forward with our plan this should be something we're looking at not next year but the year after. >> Okay. It gives the people in the industrial park more more flexibility to build something out >> later on in line in down the line, but
hook you guys right up perfectly without tearing up the street. >> Yeah. >> One of the things that came up at the board meeting that with me and Steve and others was the uh uh the idea of what's
in the ground now. And from what I we have a report that I just got from Steve. Um it's a it's an property evaluation done in 2016, but it goes into detail about what's in the
ground. From what I can tell, it's all um all PVC sewer. Everything's PVC. Nothing's steel or concrete or whatever. So, it's up to what our design spec would be. There's nothing else. One of the questions would be looking at
the pump stations and making sure that they're >> upgraded because if if we do entertain the idea of >> inheriting this and this gets back to the question you had on the other other you know other people want to make sure we're happy with what we're going to inherit, >> right?
>> Um and make sure you spend the money to upgrade it to whatever we want now and then take it over. But that's a discussion we have to have going forward. would would behoove us to have Dave go up and pop a couple of manhole covers just see what size what what
condition they're in as one one and take a picture and see what size the coming and going. >> I can give uh >> I don't mind take >> I I would think yeah take a picture of it and >> say oh this is this is a mess so this is looking good. So, what I'll do is I'll
give you this. I made a bunch of comments, but you want to >> Steve, are you required to do any sort of um you know, pipe investigation work? Anything? Does the D require you to look at the system at any point? >> No. No. They
>> you know, we just renewed our license uh uh I think about a year and a half ago, >> and uh Western and Samson does all the paperwork on that. I mean it it's too technical for one of us to try and even do it. >> Sure. >> So, uh
Yeah. No. And uh nobody's been in uh since they did that report back in 2016 and we're going for refinance uh in the next year. So, we're going to have to have another one of those engineering reports done to get a mortgage. So,
>> I see. >> But everything that we discussed the other day was it's BBC. It's all done, you know, current technology, current situation. Um, the other thing that there's no I looked at the flow rates and that that went into again that's 10
years old now. But what I saw jumped out at me was that no III issues. You didn't see any peaks when rain. There's no high groundwater issues. Your your your flow is pretty standard. You know, it doesn't see if we what we've what we'll be concerned about is if you had a high groundwater situation and there was a
leak in that pipe underwater for the springtime water's pouring in and you go from like you said 9 or 10,000 up to 15 20,000. It's all it is is ground water. But that doesn't seem to happen based on that report and you've made it clear the other day that there's nothing like
that. So um and there's nobody with basement where they're pumping out the basements like you have down the >> No. So all those kind of typical problems don't happen here. >> Yeah, that's true, too. Yeah. >> Um >> they got plenty of green grass there from the town.
>> Yeah. I mean, it's clear it's clear that you >> folks in in the in the uh park do water their lawns because you water usage goes up from like like 15 20,000 up to 90,000 in the summer. So you're washing cars and doing that kind of stuff. So that's
>> Oh yeah. There's a lot a lot of lawn watering. Yeah. Yeah. And that that's it's it's clearly documented that it's not an II problem on our side. >> Yeah. >> You know, so that's all good news. >> It is good news.
So I guess we need to talk about the bigger plan and how all this stuff fits together. And then >> Yeah. Um >> that's on our agenda for well that's the item we're talking about. >> Yeah. And then um how we would want to manage
private pump stations if we take over complexes. >> So on on that theme, um part of CDM's initial submitt to us just last week and it's still to be discussed. Um this was not
on it. Town of country is not. So I asked them to add town of country. >> Okay. >> And it's not a big number for the design. This is just 30% design now. It's not any detail but um they're going to come back to us. So by the next meeting we should have this document
updated with town and country and I mentioned this alternative to them Friday. >> Okay. >> So they could take a look at that. Most of what's in this cost is survey. >> Oh okay. >> Okay. But the big nut is because we don't have any survey. So we're going uphill downhill. It's all it's about. So
um they'll add into that. Um, Steve, actually, do you have an asbuilt drawing of your complex? You me you mentioned you had sewer drawings, but do do you have any as >> I've got to go up to the maintenance building and get all the uh cardboard
containers and pull out the plans to see what's what. >> All right. It's not a rush right now, but I know CDM and us will probably by next meeting, which will be I don't know when, this month. >> Yeah. We'll be talking seriously about
getting CDM and involved in how we're going to pay uh to stop them at the 30% design. Um but it's all moving forward. >> Okay. I'll uh I'll pull the plans out uh from the
maintenance building in the morning and I'll take them up with me to the office tomorrow because I work in the office tomorrow. >> Okay, good. Can I ask you a question, Steve? Um, >> sure. >> I know. I was told that you have excess land up there for f that you could have
put future development on the old owner. >> Uh, >> no, you know, >> no, we don't plan on expanding, >> right? You know, the original owner, Bob Benet, he had plans for a few more homes, but
uh when he got to the area where he was going to put them, he ran into a lot of ledge and stuff, and uh it was just too expensive for him to bring water and electricity in and to do the blasting and stuff. So, he decided not to do it.
>> And we're the same way. We're happy with 212 units. We we have no ambition to expand. >> Okay. Yeah. So, the the new regime, the the owners themselves, um they're fine. They don't >> Yeah. Everybody in the park here is fine
with the way things are. >> Yeah. >> Maybe some more more open space. >> Open space. Yeah. Well, it borders the 42 acres the town just bought. So, >> And how many acres is that? Uh somewhere
between 20 and 30. I'm not quite sure. Grady would know because they've surveyed it. >> You know, they got a park access from Winth Street is under construction right now into that property. So, it'll be you'll be able to walk from
Winth Street into uh your >> No, they come they come through they come through the back end of the park all the time. people walking in from Winthre Street. >> Very cool. >> And every now and then some of the homeless from behind BJ's come through,
too. >> Well, good. I think this we're we're moving in the right direction. Um, thanks for the offer to talk and I think over the next few weeks, few meetings, I mean, I think we'll be >> solidifying this with CDM and getting things moving. I mean, again,
>> Yeah. Yeah. you know once once we get an idea of overall cost to us then I can bring it to the general meeting you know and see what everybody says >> you know >> we need to have we need to have some
discussions about how this is this is a unique kind of a situation that doesn't meet the typical betterment because all the sewers are in the ground and all these other things are there so we need to have you know a more detailed discussion on that but I would just on
the timeline we should have CDM within the next two months on board at least part part of the way. I think we still got to go to town meeting in April in the May town meeting to get the rest of the money but I think we have enough >> potentially have enough
available funds to do some preliminary work to get some answers that we need to do make these kind of decisions not just town and country but other places. >> Yeah. and uh you know like this other what we just talked about earlier and in the mall and all those kind of things
they're all part of this discussion >> right >> but all right good >> thank you Steve >> thanks >> thank you >> welcome to stay for the rest of the meeting but >> thanks >> that's good
um so you want to continue on that theme >> yeah yeah just uh so I I did get I'm this is the one I I commented and had them updated, but just so you know, um so this is a uh basically design work to get us to a 30% design stage.
>> Okay. >> Much of it's the like I said topographic survey to know where we're what we're doing and where the houses are and where the lots are and all the background basic information. Uh, and it's this will take us so that
the update will include town of country, but this is up Indian Pond Road. Uh, up Elm Street, I mean. Um, and then on up Indian Pond Road, you know how it pees off Indian Pond Road has the houses on it. If you go straight up Elm Street, there's nothing there
except for Sylvia Pond. There's one house there. >> Yeah. >> Then Sylvia uh Place Road comes back in where the Marabet Farm is. Then it goes back up and there's more houses. So this the line would come up from basically from Brook Street and go up
u Mil Street to Inapon Road to Sylvia Place Road come back up and meet South Street coming in the other area and then from our pump station on 106 loop all around the South Street Wells and the Millgate Street Wells. That's the whole reason we're doing it. And then it would
include Ple Street and Copper Beach Drive. So like we just said, I don't think this is a lot more. The survey is really nothing but if you go to this other route. Yeah. >> It's just from the pump station over here. This, you know, it's like two
setups and a survey crew. It's like it's downhill or it's not. So So this this number comes out to be just again this is a rough. This isn't a rough. This is a real number. to get pretty much everything we have
left to do is about $250,000 of which close to 100 and 12,000 survey. >> Yeah. So it's like half >> and that's that's against the 30%.
>> Excuse me. Yeah. That gets us to a 30% design. So after that it's easy, you know, because it's not we're not two treat plants. It's just two or three pump stations. >> Yeah. and gravity sewer. >> And this will
>> help secure the wells in the area. >> The whole idea is to secure all the wells. 50% of our drinking water today comes from those wells. >> Okay? >> And the nitrogen content >> that was in there 20 years ago, which was close to zero, is now at three,
three and a half and rising. >> Okay? And if you go to treatment of a well like that or abandon it, it's a lot of water first of all. So there's a real environmental reason. I mean if you I wish I had the plan >> again to be proactive.
>> I mean that was always the reason for that pump station on 106. >> Okay. >> But it's surrounding here. So uh so here's there's the offset. So that's over here. So there's three wells right there. Half of our
water and that's why it goes all the way around like this. So there's a pump station on on the Jones River goes in Milgate, South Street, Elm Street, and that little piece of Indian pond and come down here and it'll tie back in.
>> That loop that you're talking about surrounding the Wales, do you have an idea of how many homes that would >> I did a quick count. You have town of you have uh count for green >> town for green >> which is another hund something houses. >> Okay.
>> Oh that many there. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> Something like that. And then there's uh my number is around 250 homes and lots are on that loop. All septic systems all right there. And I mean you just have to look at the
numbers from the water um water reports that come out. You can see it. You got the Knights of Columbus, right? Right there. >> Yeah. >> It's like literally almost on the Wells. >> Yeah. Now, >> that's not used all the time, but that's
a You have a septic system >> right there. >> Well, and and the fact that that's a big piece of property if anything ever changes in the future that you get sold for something. >> Yeah. >> And so the the other the other parts of this are very small. You got Ple Street, which is needs, you know, it's all clay
and ground. I should have been suing before and it was a right >> whole bunch of reasons why that didn't happen. >> Yeah. I'm cur I'm curious about that. Who approached you for bottle street? Was that something just >> it's always was on there and then I know the uh >> because the only down there is one house one residential house >> real there. Uh
>> and then and then the club >> and then the club. Yeah. Hilltop and all that stuff. >> Well, there's literally just those two. >> Well, I've had people from Hilltop contact. >> You have? >> Yeah. They they've asked and then you get into the get get the idea here is get back into the playing fields because
they're using just water parties and stuff, right? >> I'm sure they have I think they have a septic system on >> Yeah, when I was back there, but they >> such a big property they could be 300 feet away from the wetlands where there septic systems. >> It's all that's all ledge really shallow ledge and clay back in there. It's all
you know I don't know how they got a septic system and tell you groundwater is like right there. >> Yeah. >> Everywhere. So I mean it was sure it was >> I may be wrong. I I thought that I thought that the main building was was >> but it's it's again it's all of this all this from I think our point of view is
this is not the sewer commission pushing this. This is the environmental community the public health issues that are directly related to it >> and the water supply. So it's it's going to be a team effort to get this thing done. I try to warn everybody that is
involved. We're all in this together. Well, hope hopefully the cold water moratorum and what happens when you don't have enough uh water. >> Yeah. >> Um has helped to people understand the
need to protect what we already have >> and septic systems around wells at this point in time isn't isn't >> safe. Yeah. >> Isn't safe. >> So, it's only going to get worse, >> right? And especially one of the states
that really does start paying attention to this area with nitrogen. >> It's a huge problem. >> It is. >> I didn't send this to anyone because as soon as I saw it and marked it up, I went back to CDM and said update it. So, okay. >> That's why I didn't send this to you all. But, um, as soon as I get the new
update, I mean, I I it's 250 now. I bet you it's less than 300 with all the with town country. >> It's not a lot more, >> but uh That's the ballpark number. And if you extrapolate that to what's going to cost to build it,
>> 10% engineering, >> uh, it's probably when this is all done, it's probably going to be close to 600,000. So, it's probably a $6 million project. And one of the reasons to expedite this is to get on the SRF list as fast as we can. >> Yep. >> And have a number. And that's what I've
tried to drive CDM to understand. They do understand it. just we've already missed the the uh eligibility for this year, but if we get a number, you know, soon we'll be able to get on the list and then >> work that. >> That's the those are the summers, right? I think it's August or something.
>> Yeah. So, that's we're trying to next August is so it's that's why we have to get this approved. >> Yeah. >> And if we can start them doing some of the work, >> um that would be helpful. So you think 100% design would be about 600? >> That's my guess. Yeah. Just just because
of this. It's it's it's not a sewage treating plant type thing, >> right? >> Where it gets more complicated. It's more >> once you have the flow line, it's there it is. It's, you know, there's not >> Yeah. >> You know, and a pump station's a pump station, you know, it's long as it's
what we want. And so far, we've been working with CDM all along and everybody's happy with that. Yeah. So, >> and it gives us an opportunity to This is for Davis. You know, some of these older actually the younger upstations get some upgrades maybe in
this round too. >> That's good. >> But it's all good. Good stuff. >> It is. No, thank you. >> Looking at on that same note, you know, capacitywise, I think we're looking at something like
800 and some odd erus available. 865ish. before any of these projects. >> Yeah. And you know, Copper Beach 144 units. >> That's I figured out 80 each. >> Yeah. I got 79. >> Yeah. >> 79.
Town of country. They're all one or two bedroom. >> So if it's there 212, >> yes, >> let's say 300 just to make it any three bedrooms. So that's
You can have that. >> What unit price are we using on using? We're not we're not calculating um betterment fees. We're just calculating. >> Yeah. >> Capacity. >> So town and country 300 unit. That's 300
at 110. But bedrooms is 33,000. That's um 30. Yeah, it's going to be >> they're 100 EIUs. >> And then in your range that you looked
at Elm and South >> it's about 200 something like that. >> 200. >> So that eats up not quite half. >> Yeah. So there's still plenty of capacity for you got the mall >> other development
that 800 already includes what the mall already owns, right? So those they've already bought. >> Yes. Yeah. Their capacity is already been calculated. >> So whatever was going to go where Macy's is, that number is in the 14 I mean 35
what I have in my head. It's about 30,000 gallons of water use. >> Okay. So it's another 100 roughly 100 unit. Okay, >> that's that that's that would be excess.
Then you got whatever else is going up there. But who where you know we're there other part street car beach those others are like 10 houses 15 not a lot >> right. >> So these big numbers are what we really want to zero in on. Yeah, with with capacity still that it won't restrict
other people along a 3A card if they want to do something. >> There's still room at the end for other developments. >> Yeah, that would be my intent to always leave a loot cushion. >> Sure. >> For for PE for everything that's already been been on for 25 30 years, right?
>> Because people aren't getting >> cheated out of one more bedroom on a house or something like that. >> You've given them some leeway already in phase one and phase two. >> Yeah. And then um taking all that into consideration, it still allows for septage. >> Yes.
>> To take in septage. So >> I have another subject I would like to discuss at some point in time. >> No, that's that's my update. >> Some people don't need the flow. They've been over the only X.
They got you know like um what's that? Hillside Club. You know, the owner there wanted to sell something back because he wasn't going to do anything because it's man cave, but he owns those, which is okay because someone else comes in after him. They have the the capacity to work with it. But who was it here with the
laundromat? The laundromat goes out of business in five years, >> right? >> And those all he's got, what did we say? He needed like >> it was quite a bit >> like 20 units or something. >> Yeah. And if it goes back to a regular building, then what I'm what I'm getting at is that I would like to have to be
able to buy that back to give it out to somebody else. >> That's a good point. >> You know, within reason. >> Some people I don't want this flow. I rate it. >> Yeah. And for Yeah. >> Yeah. But you know Yes. So the when we saw that we you know the
you know treatment plant is is being compensated talk about maybe I don't know just >> Yeah. Yeah, because we do have the our rules and regulations do have a buyback for vacant lots, >> right? >> But there's no reason why we can't um >> try to modify it. >> Yeah. Put something in for buildable
lots. >> Yeah. >> Or someone that's like, you know, my neighbor, >> he's he has five bedrooms on on the the the unit next door has eight bedrooms in there, but in the future if he decides he wants to build a couple more units, he has the capacity to do it.
>> Yeah. But he may decide he doesn't want to when that and then if they do sell it back then if they decide then they sell it to somebody else and they have to have to come back to today's rates >> and that's it that that would be we get into the deed restrictions just so everybody would know right you know this
is restricted for X and >> but but I know I know we have marked down in our in our ledger that this is our capacity this is what we got but 10% of that's not even going to be utilized. >> No that's a good point. we could throw it back into the kitty and and and go a little
>> particularly when we particularly when we get down towards the end of this. I was just thinking I'm I'm thinking the other way. It's like a liquor license in Boston. You know, it's you pay 500 bucks for it but try to buy it from >> No, you're right. >> And that's why we actually put the Boston regulations
>> so individuals wouldn't be sell everything had to come through us. >> Yeah, that's exactly. And um >> no and yeah, that that I wanted to take safe I'll talk talking to my neighbors. But what you pay for it, I'll give you that. You know, Bill saying it gets us to the same place. Well, we don't have
that going on. I can see it happening. >> Oh, yeah. >> I can see it happening. >> It was happening. Yeah. >> And we had to stop the conversations. >> So, >> just uh that that's you kind of brought this up before, Bill, and that's a good I think it's a good thing to not forget.
Let's put that way. >> Well, like the Legion Hall, >> there's nothing they can do. They cannot add on to that property unless they buy more property. >> And you know, it would have been nice to give them the $3,000 they wanted and then we could have sold it for $90,000
or whatever. You know, >> we should put on the agenda for next meeting though. U talking about the betterments for not in a final way, but just a kind of get a betterment discussion amongst ourselves on >> town of country. Just kind of flesh out
the flesh out the issues. And then this uh ODB has got a similar thing. Uh one >> that's why I was trying to remember back that when he first started talking with us that he locked himself into the old race. >> We'll have to look at the meeting.
>> Yeah, I know. But I never found in country we could give them we could give them the old rates because they've been on board, you know, in the waiting for this and I don't know if that's the way we're going to do this or >> Well, that's why we need to talk about it because they did come in before we changed the red rules. Oh yeah. >> You know, and we did have that
discussion and they were in this process and I think it's just a matter of we got to figure out what we can do. I mean, we can't give away. We can't end up with owning money at the end of the day. >> Right. Right. Right. Right. >> So, uh, >> and I saw I saw a listing for Town and
Country the other day and they're in the 360 range right now >> for onebedroom or twobedroom house. Yeah. Like lots. >> Well, I heard what I heard from that because that came up at Saturday. It's way too overpriced. >> Somebody will buy it. >> You could you could have got I could
have got it for $65,000. First came to town. >> Apparently that the 300 is a is a right number, not 360. That's what they were saying. >> Oh, okay. >> There's another one that's on the pond. Apparently that's a real good deal. There's a really nice pond there. I didn't know that. I forgot that was
there. But >> okay. >> All right. Uh, we have a broken pipe on the standish this. Does everybody have that one in your package? >> Are they looking for
>> Oh, here it is. An email from Tanya White. Yeah. >> And do you know who did the numbers, Dave? >> I don't. I imagine that was probably Jeie or a combination of Genie and Stacy
possibly. >> So they've done the numbers. Um the average is 6,000 gallons and they were charged 50,000 gallons. And being a leak in the crawl space underneath the
house, it didn't even get to us. So, um I'm fine with making a motion to adjust the quarterly bill to uh the average of $6,000 of 6,000 gallons $84.18
abating $743.50. I'll >> second that. All >> in favor? [Music] You want to go right ahead. Looks like the rest is probably >> Okay.
So, I know we've touched on this 22 main street a couple times. I'm just gonna pass you a fresh copy in case you have one available for you. >> So, from what I understand, the building
department and health department handed their correction notices out last week. Um, so I've had this prepared for a little while. I was waiting for them to, you know, get their correction orders
together and the plan was that we'd all kind of distribute them at the same time, but uh I guess they had called the gentleman in at one point handed handed the correction notice to him in hand. Um and I wasn't around at the time. So, I'm
looking to see if we can get this sent out ASAP. Um and I just want to gave one fresh look. I don't know if you guys had any new additional input to put in there, but when I did the correction
notice, I didn't specifically call out what I'd like for a solution other than getting it back to its original state, >> but uh not knowing what was done underground
because I can't obviously see, you know, some of the work that had been done to this line. I already know um that they tapped the roof leader into the soil and and broke into it to do so. They've added additional connections that
weren't authorized as part of their original system. So, what I'm looking to do is have that sewer line excavated from the curb line where stub was provided to him all the way up to the end of his sewer
line and confirm that there's no additional offshoots, roof levers tied in, sunk pumps, things like that, laterals. Um, other than what's originally on here, I would just like to add some verbage
>> to at least have that exposed beginning to end. >> Just kind of the commission's blessing on that. >> I mean, that that's exactly what we should do. didn't deserve >> and you know it, you know, in our bylaws
and in some of the uh state laws that back up our bylaws, you know, it doesn't refer to $5,000 fines per day on some of these violations. So, it's it's a serious issue and you know, we know there's been roof leaders tied in.
For how long, I can't say, but you know, it could have gone. >> They're still tied in right now as we speak because no one no one's told you they corrected that. >> Nothing's been corrected yet. So, you know, it could have gone back as far as 2016 or earlier, >> right?
>> So, why don't you take a vote to >> just >> Yeah, go ahead. just before that just um I think finding out that to that point you made 2016 doing the reconnaissance and maybe making sure that's in here. That was one thing that I didn't remember from last time any notes. It's
just >> Yeah, we can't specifically know when >> No, I'm just saying put put but put put some just some languages. We we would we would want you to tell us you mean but just something to get you
some information of when did this start and at least it starts a discussion that the schedule of this is important for the spines piece of it but it wasn't on here last time we talked about that wasn't it >> just something that gives you and what
we talked about was having looking at the water use back going back in time. So the way I looked at it is if the water use legitimately was 1,000 gallons water, let's say, >> and all of a sudden it went up to 1500,
that start that's your clock that. So whatever that date was, whatever quarter that was, 2016, you know that in 2016 the house that was getting a thousand, you know, all of a sudden it went up because it's there's five new powers back there. >> Yeah. somehow given you the you and
legally us the position that if we want to find it and we our attorneys will do this, we're going to find you $5,000 a day, whatever the f is and we'll negotiate with the enders. >> Yeah. >> Just like D would but it's given given
you and us the putting him on notice first of all. >> Yes. the people >> and some of that information may have been exposed through conversations and emails back and forth with health department building department. So some of that data might
>> just making a statement. We when did this start? >> It's a question. We don't know. >> Yeah. >> But at least it's out there as we're asking that, >> right? >> So you make that motion that I'm sorry I start I >> No, I should say we we should make a
motion to support uh Dave's >> um order to correct violations. And >> I'll make that motion. >> I'll second. >> All in favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> We'll put that out by the end of the week. >> I did the board out there. There's
something if you don't >> told me this at their meeting yesterday. >> They actually found that they uh >> sign >> actually put in a 55gallon drum. >> That's what I heard. >> You heard that? Yeah. Okay. >> Didn't know that. >> It's worse. This is another >> Yes. >> Yes. >> There's a 55gallon drum from another
apartment toilet toilet that Dave never saw before. >> Never went into our sewer system. It went into some sort of modified >> assess pool basically >> system. >> That's all new from what David was found the last time when he was out there. >> So
>> David, are you aware that that there's a condo on that property for sale right now? >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Is there any reason that we shouldn't talk to town council? maybe put a for the building department and have them put covenant on it or you know something
that says don't you can't sell it until this is resolved. I don't I don't know if that's the a proper way to do that but if they sell and it's been run then someone else is picking up bag. >> Yeah. And is that condo and condo
association is the owner of the property different than the owner of the condo and you know I don't know how Yeah. Yeah. >> Just take a note of that. See if there's anything, >> you know, talk to the building department and see what they what they think about it.
>> You may want to put want a freeze on the house. >> Yeah. >> Have a call to the realtor and say, "Yeah, you know, >> there's a lot of issues that you need to know." Full disclosure. >> Yeah. >> Or you sell it. >> Interesting.
>> Yeah. Yeah. I'll have some conversation with some other departments. >> Okay. Yeah. and see what they think. >> See if there's any legs we can use. >> I mean, other departments have had a lot more enforcement for what is going on past years. >> Yeah, that's a good point. It might help
them out, too, in terms of their issues that they're trying to address. >> I feel sorry for the person that buys it if that's the case and they don't know what they're getting. Okay. So, that's squared away. >> Um, >> there's so many things that have happened in the last couple weeks. I
always try and give you a couple examples of some of the chaos that that uh is on our daily schedule at the plant. Um, recently we've had quite a bit of problems with the Marian Drive pump station. It's four years old. We've
had the two original pumps had to go out at some point over that 4year period for a seal fail. So, those went all got rebuilt. While those were all getting rebuilt, we run in a spare so we'd always be able to keep the station
running. >> So, there's three pumps in rotation over there. And I went on vacation. One of them that had been rebuilt had another seal fail alarm go when I came back from vacation. The week
after another seal fail alarm went. So we basically had the two pumps in the wet well running on seal fail alarms. So at any point if that seal failed completely and the water get in the motor, they'd both dry up.
So last Friday we brought in a spare standby pump. I don't know if you're familiar with these dry prime pumps, but they they're on a trailer. >> Pulled it in, set the suction hose into the wet weld, and it has its own transducer in here. So if any time
during the night those two pumps fail, this pump would automatically turn itself on, dot itself up, pump the station down, and then shut itself off, wait for it to fill up, turn itself on.
So this thing would maintain the pump station. So you brought that in just as a standby that if anything catastrophic failed, you'd have at least a pump running the pump station and not have waste water go to the ocean.
So anyway, long and short is we got uh we'll get a pump back, replace that into the pump station, took the existing pump that fried, brought that out to Connecticut, had it fixed the same day, brought it back the
same day. We've got Marian Drive running on two fully functional faults back. >> Good. Anything else critical you we should talk about tonight? That's about it. Everything else to wait till our next meeting. I see that we're backed up to another
>> and I can't make it the 21st. That would be our next meeting. So, I don't know if you want to go to the 28th. >> 28th. I was going to bring up that that's uh >> second. >> That's the the next um >> Oh, that's town meeting.
>> It's town meeting. Yeah. We have to meet anyways. >> Well, I can make the 21st. I can. Okay. We'll just next meeting 10:21. >> Okay. >> I just have to go to my >> Well, do you want to meet a little later?
>> Um, >> um, >> I have to go to Mfield's town meeting that night. >> Oh, I can. So, you want to be earlier? >> I'll see what Yeah, if we can. >> We get here like 3:30. on that day. >> 28th
>> 21st. Yes. >> 10:21. >> 10:21. 3:30. Okay. I'll entertain a motion to adjourn. >> Second. >> All in favor? Okay. >> 10:21. Sorry, it's 3:30.