We go. Right. >> All right, guys. >> Good evening, everybody. I am going to call the board of selectmen meeting for November 4th to order at 6:01 p.m. And we will start with the pledge of allegiance.
I aliance to the flag of the United States of America and to the flag for it stands one nation under God with liberty and justice for all. >> All right. Before we get started, we
have a few announcements. Um, this meeting is being recorded by the local scene. Anyone intending to make an audio or video recording of this meeting should notify the chair at this time. Uh financial assistance applications are available on the town's website or by
calling the selectman's office. For anyone interested in volunteering, there are several vacancies on various committees and boards. To see a complete list of the openings, please visit our website at kingstonmma.gov. Uh please check our website for any additional events or notices. Uh again
at www.kstonmma.gov. Uh we have our special town election coming up on Saturday, November 15th. Um the ballot question is shall the town of Kingston be allowed to exempt from the provisions of Proposition
2 and 1/2 so-called the amounts um required to pay for the bond issued in order to fund a partial roof replacement for the Kingston Elementary School. So, this was the um it was an art article on the warrant for our special town meeting
that that did pass. So, it it moved from town meeting to um the ballot um so that they can borrow. And again, I just want to be clear, we are getting some funding from MSBA. The way it's worded, we had to we had to ask for the entire amount,
but we will be getting MSBA funding uh for this project. And if we don't, then we're not moving forward. Um because we would cut that project down if we were paying for it 100%. >> The theoretical 52% something. >> Yeah,
>> that makes sense. Um am I missing anything on on that on the ballot question? Is there anything else we should say? >> No, you're right. You're required not just here in case no matter they always make you do the full amount. >> Yeah.
>> In case things change. >> Oh, sorry. Sorry. They always make you do the full amount uh in case things change so that if it became that they only going to put in 49% you don't have to keep going back to town meetings and things. >> Okay. >> Yeah, >> that makes sense.
>> Yeah. >> Uh before we get started, any other announcements from anyone? >> Just thanking everyone for coming to special town meeting. All articles but one passed. >> So just appreciate everyone's time >> and we were able to start on time unlike
our regular annual town meeting. We had articles in 90 minutes. >> Yeah, it was very good. >> All right. Uh before we get started, we do have um open forum. If anybody would like to speak, just raise your hand. Oh, go ahead. >> Good evening. Sarah Lancing, 61 Hollands
Lane, uh veterans agent for the town. Next week is uh Veterans Day um on Tuesday, November 11th, and I just wanted to let everybody know that there is going to be a short ceremony out front at 10:30 uh open to all residents and the public. And then there's a
lunchon over at the Council on Aging at 11:00, which is limited to veterans and seats only 100. Um we're almost maxed out on the RSVPs for that. Um and that's it. Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Anybody else?
Anybody online with their hand up? I can't see. >> No. >> Okay. >> All right. Uh, moving on. Our first appointment is a discussion of 4-day work week continuing at the townhouse. So, back in February, um, our our board
approved a 4-day work week for a six-month trial period from July 1st, 2025 to December 31st, 2025 for the townhouse. So, we're meeting uh tonight to discuss continuing the current schedule beyond the December 31st, 2025.
Um so again um in our handout here we have the the previous 5day schedule where basically on Fridays we were open from 8 to 11:30 p.m. Um back in July we can we we extended our our normal hours Monday, Wednesday, Thursday from 8:00 to
4:30 to 8 to 5:00 p.m. And then on Tuesdays it was 8 to 6:00 p.m. to total hours worked are the same. um we just haven't been open on Fridays and and just as one person speaking here, I
haven't received any feedback um good or bad from from anybody. Um well, I shouldn't say I haven't heard heard any good feedback. I mean, I've heard feedback that people um like it uh you know, people who are working totally get that. Um and and just a reminder, Keith
when he presented this to the board, one of the issues was uh to help recruit and retain um staff. Um you know, that this was a tool that that would help us in our recruiting. Um and certainly we're seeing that, you know, when when we're
talking to um TA potential TA candidates as well. >> So um any discussion, any any comments, any thoughts? only the only question folks have come to me with is about posting agendas. So, if we can figure out a way so that the um committees and
boards can post agendas without needing to do that a a day earlier, >> um that would be great. So, that was really the only feedback I I heard. Um I know there is not really a cost savings, but I do know that folks who work in the building have expressed that they would like to keep it this way.
>> Yeah, I think I mean we started the discussion off with it. It's a great re recruitment tool. Um, my only thought and it is might be just my thought is we're so close to hiring a new TA. Do we
wait and give it another few months and have the new TA on board to see how they appreciate that or or um can oversee it or give us more insight? Um, that's my only thought. I think it's great. I just wonder if we wait until we get someone
in. I feel like we're making a decision without the person here that's going to oversee it. I don't know. Just a thought. As you all know, I wasn't here when the decision was made to have this uh trial
period. And my general feeling is that I'm not enthusiastic about telling towns folks that, you know, we need possibly a Proposition 2 and a half. We need uh more money. We need uh we have budget problems. Oh, and by the way, we're
closed on Fridays. What I would be more in support of is on an ongoing basis, I see it as reasonable to have the summer hours so that perhaps for June, July, August, that it would always be this
way. But my feeling is that I'm not in favor of it on an ongoing basis 12 months out of the year. >> It's negotiated, right? Is this a negotiated conversation? >> It wasn't I think it was negotiated for
the time for the for that six month. >> Right. >> Right. >> Um for me personally um you know I the reason I was hesitant in the beginning was just worried about um permits and other things people coming in to do town
business but I literally have not had a >> heard a single complaint about about any of this. >> No I have not either. The only other thing I would say is as um you know when when I was working for the federal government, they had various work schedules that you could do the the five four9s. You do
>> five or four 9h hour days and then a 10-hour day and then you'd have every other Friday off kind of thing. And then they had the 410s. They had different work schedules for different people and you had to get permission to do it. It wasn't obviously departmentwide. it was um uh up to the uh up to your supervisor
to do it, but it's certainly um beneficial. I think you know it it the benefits that I see is it's cutting down on commuting. I mean, I don't think anybody has a super long commute, but I honestly don't know. Y >> um but it's it's an extra day that they would not have to come in. Three-day
weekends are obviously worth a lot for work life balance. >> Y >> um the other thing is a short day like that. I I I mean I I don't do all the jobs that people do here, but a lot of times if it's if it's a short day like this for me, it'd be kind of a wasted
day. For me, I need to kind of get up and going and then I'm in full gear and keep going. So, working a half day is kind of it it's not as productive, I think. >> Um so, you guys all bring up good points. Um I I'm less worried about a TA
because um I I I think a lot of towns are doing this and I Keith did not express any >> issues with this. He was >> so the oversight from the department heads then more than >> Mhm.
>> Yeah. I think so. >> Making sure that that what is it 30 minute lunches and is that how that that played out the 30 minute lunches? >> Getting nods from the back of the room. >> I online and I can't remember the total conversation but >> Ken yeah did you have something road I am your current treasurer and um
I just want to give you a perspective so you haven't heard any complaints but I can give you a real world story about how the town has benefited from the 4-day work week when I first became treasurer our assistant treasurer left to go to employ with the Mhm.
>> And I had to search for a new assistant treasurer. We had several applicants and none were from the municipal space and none had any experience in a treasury. Fast forward to the we we ended up
hiring Nick, my former uh assistant collector. He worked out great. So well that he went off to a bigger city and made twice as much money. So, uh, we had to hire another assistant treasurer. We had several qualified,
um, uh, applicants from the finance world. We had five applicants from municipal, four of which were assistant treasurers, three of which said they loved the fact that we had a 4-day work week, and said
that the life the work life balance was the reason they applied. >> Right? We ended up with Crystal Rich who is working out tremendously. She's a very bright person. She does a great job for us. So, what Keith introduced to you
that this would do, it's actually doing. And people want to come to Kingston. You'll see this in in the TA's, you know, search. You'll see people want to come to Kingston. With due respect to my predecessor, Mr. Pike
the um there is no less productivity by not being here on Fridays. And I have to be honest, I do notice the morale on a Monday morning in this building is far better than it was prior to the 4-day
work week. So that's all I have to say. I just want to give you guys a different perspective. So thank you. Well, I did read something on on on online somewhere that said that by 2030 we're supposed to be down to a 15 hour work week because of automation and AI.
So, >> Valerie's shaking her head, >> right? Uh Val, did you do you >> can offload the town planner job to AI though? Valerie, you're you're you're stuck. Well, I just wanted to um take the
opportunity to first thank the selectman for doing the trial, but also to say on behalf of all the land use department heads that we work together very well. Each and every one of us supports the three-day
uh situation that we have. We uh we all continue to work together very closely throughout the day, Monday through Thursday. Um it is a life work balance that we appreciate having the the uh
third day um on the weekends. It is an attraction for us as we go through the hiring process and it also allows us to once we get the steam rolling we have longer days during the the Monday,
Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday to team up and work together which I find really productive. Uh I I also find that some of us who do need to come in and work longer hours use the Friday >> for undisturbed time whether or not
we're being paid for it. And I I think that um we haven't had any situations with uh filings or uh conflicts in terms of trying to get paperwork through or serving the public. And I just wanted to
advocate for the 4-day work week. So, thank you. >> Thank you, Val. >> That's a good point is that sorry, the hours that we see on this paper and that you see on the townhouse doesn't doesn't add the hours like right now when we're in these meetings
>> in the evenings. So, there are many of our staff members who are asked to be here in the evening as well that we should just keep that in mind. >> Yep. >> Right. >> I think um you know, I supported it when we first did it. I still support it. I think the, you know, we're I support it in general, but also we're competing
against corporations that >> right >> offer other benefits that are appealing and these are the ways that towns can battle that. So, >> yeah. >> Any other comments, questions? Or if
not, then uh anyone want to make a motion? I move the board of selectment approved changing the townhouse hours to a 4-day work week as presented. Do >> I have a second? >> Second. >> All right. All those in favor? I >> I
>> against >> opposed. Yep. >> All right. Four to one. >> All right. So, that'll continue um as of January 1. So, um, do we need to go back
and you need to negotiate that? >> Has to be some sort of amendment at the >> Yeah. Okay. >> Okay. All right. Thank you. And thank you everybody who spoke. It was helpful. >> All right. Next item. Our next
appointment is a request from Eagle Scout Josh Pek to build a shed at the Kingston Intermediate School for Kingston Youth Soccer Association. So Josh, would you like to come up to the podium? Just um state your name and your address and then um
>> have to read his application though. >> No, you can just give us a statement, >> right? >> Joshua Peek for Walter Fon Road. So I want to build a 10 by10 shed on the soccer fields behind the intermediate
school benefiting the KYSA for my Eagle project. Awesome. >> Awesome. >> Yeah. >> And did it had approval from the school committee already, right? I did ask that. Yeah. Okay. You want to tell everybody what would go in the shed generally?
>> So, I think they want to do some of the onfield equipment like corner flags, um the things that they use to paint the um lines. Yeah. >> And also they hold they help they hold a summer camp over the summer and they like give balls to all the kids so that
I could use this the shed to store the balls for their summer camp. >> Awesome. >> Yeah, I that's great. I'm I'm also an Eagle Scout and I remember the biggest thing that I learned is if if you can motivate a bunch of kids to
show up to work on your Eagle project and get the job done, >> any management job you ever have in your professional life later on down the road is going to be a whole lot easier. Um you'll get so much great experience, but you already have, you know, because you obviously um you're you're going for
Eagle. So that's awesome. Congratulations. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. So just for clarity on the motion, you said KYSA, but we have KYSO. Who's it for? >> KY. >> It's KYA because KYO was that
is separate. >> I just Yeah. I just want >> I did ask that question. >> Yeah. So we'll want to amend that. >> Y. >> All right. Any questions or >> in terms of ongoing maintenance? So once the project is built, this is something we talk about a lot with different projects throughout town. Like there's a gazebo out front that was a Boy Scout
project at one point. I think the one I found was Boy Scout project. >> Um, who once you've built it and like 5 years down the line is responsible for maintenance for this? >> The beneficiary KYSA said that they would maintain it. >> Okay.
>> I I know it's in your paperwork. I just >> It's good to ask these questions, too, because in the future people will wonder and >> Yeah. >> And it's it's good practice anyway, right? >> For you to speak in front of all of us >> just what he wants to do. >> You did great. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah.
>> Any other questions for him or >> motion? Great job. >> What is the shed going to be made of is the question. >> Oh, yeah. >> Just standard wood construction materials. >> So, wood and roofing and >> Yeah. >> Yeah.
>> Okay. Thank you. >> Nothing crazy. Um, I move the board of selectman approve the request from Josh Pek to build a shed at the KISS property for KYSA to use as storage. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I.
>> That's unanimous. >> Thanks. >> Yeah. Thank you for doing it. >> Thank you. >> Nice job. >> When will you be doing it? >> I'm hoping to start as soon as possible. >> So, it should be done Well, has to be done before February 3rd. has to be done
before February 3rd. Okay. >> Is that your 18th birthday? Is that why? >> Selfishly I asked because my oldest is in Boy Scouts. So I'm like, wait, when am I putting this project on our calendar? [Music] Awesome.
>> Fantastic. >> Awesome. Yeah. Congrats. >> Thank you. >> Great job. >> Congratulations. >> All right. Next item is uh approval of multiple one-day liquor licenses for 42nd Brew Company and WM Brewing
Company. Um so we have all of the information in our packet. Um does I'm not going to read all the dates. >> Uh you might want to because >> Okay. So, Gears and Beers, November 15th, 2025 from 11:00 a.m. to 3 p.m. at 26 Whopping Road. Then, We Tree Farm, 57
Pemroke Street, November 28th, 2025 from 10:00 to 4:00. November 29th from 10 to 4, November 30th, 10 to 4, December 6th from 10:00 to 4:00, and December 7th from 10 to 4. And then WM Brewing is requesting a 1-day license for Plymouth
Punk Rock Christmas Market at Kingston Collection 101. Kingston Collection Way, November 30th from 12:00 to 5:00 p.m. >> I move the board of selectmen approve the one-day liquor license requests for 42nd Brew Company and WM Brewing Company as stated above.
>> Second. >> Second. >> All those in favor? I >> That's unanimous. >> All right. Next item. Um approval to appoint two full-time police officers um from the civil service local register. Um, Lieutenant Baitman is going to come
up and probably speak not quite as long as our chief. >> He's right there. >> I know he is. >> That's why I said that. >> I feel an overooming person. >> Babysitter is there.
Uh so long story short uh the board's already approved uh one position which was uh hired from the civil service regular list and long story short civil services allowed this local register to hire uh have our own list opposed to the
state list. >> Um and we put that list out for the state list that you guys approved and no one signed it. So, uh, we're trying to leverage this local register, trying to get people that are already police officers hopefully and speed up the process and get people on the road. Um,
and that would, uh, kind of cut down on some overtime costs right now, which would be great. Uh, kind of bigger question going forward. These are not new positions, but uh going forward uh with this new list since we've haven't had this list before or this kind of thing. Um I don't know just your
thoughts uh going forward. It doesn't have to be decided tonight, but uh if they keep on doing the local register and the civil service list, it might be something where we just ask for to hire offer either one and where we kind of management decision go for. So we
>> based on the best candidate and the needs at the time. >> Uh well, yeah, at the end of the five years, you're supposed to have a 50/50. Uh who knows after five years where civil service is going to be, where we're going to be as a town and things of that nature. So I mean, year one, to be honest with you, I'm not really that
concerned about it. Uh in five years, I'm sure there'll be enough retirements um >> where they can hire off the list. But, uh, just to kind of reiterate, when we hire off these regular service list, it's about a year process and, um, since
we've been coming to you and asking for, um, new hires, uh, we've had two two individuals. I'm going to have to be up there again probably in the next meeting, too. Uh, that did not meet the requirements of of the conditions of the hires. And so,
that was a year ago. >> So, we've been waiting for new bodies to be on the road for a year. And uh >> yeah, >> we don't have any. >> Okay. >> So, >> all right. Any questions, comments, or emotion? >> The the these two bodies,
>> yes, sir. >> are not neither one of them is a replacement for the person who we took the money from to pay for the sergeant. >> Uh, no. No. So, right now, these two
people, one person off this local register is a uh is a position that we've been trying to fill. We put it out to the civil service. No one signed it. Uh basically, it takes, you know, it's another two to a half a month, you know,
two weeks to a half a month. And the other position, uh we have another, uh officer retiring in December. So trying to jump start that because the these are people uh off the road. Uh and so we're back filling over on overtime.
Um so we're kind of in a quandrum of trying to get people on the road so we're not having >> right >> basically we have three open shifts every week every every week three people that we're back filling overtime for on top of court time any other trainings or
stuff like that. So these are all not new positions. Uh and we we still have open positions after this. So >> Okay. >> So anything that would happen uh in the future with budgets and the budget season which is uh excellent. I've taken some budget classes and it's riveting.
Um you know that there is um you know we're taking things you know those things into an account. So >> thank you. >> You're welcome. >> All right. Would anybody like to make a motion? I move the board of select and authorize the police chief to appoint on behalf of
the board two full-time police officer appointments from the civil service local register and to provide an introduction of the candidates to the board prior to the candidates's beginning employment. >> Second. >> All those in favor I >> I >> I >> All right. That's unanimous. >> Thank you, Lieutenant.
>> Thank you. >> All right. On to additional reporting in progress. >> We have a donation from the uh Council on Aging. Um, >> wait. Did you skip the public? >> It says it won't be discussed. >> Oh, missed that part. Sorry, I was all
prepared. >> Um, all right. Would anybody like to make a a motion on the council on aging donation? >> I move the board of selectmen accept a donation of $50 to the Kingston Council on Aging from John and Katherine Coco.
>> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> That's unanimous. All right. appointment to the cultural council. Uh Diane Fay, Susan Sherman, and Christine Mayorano um are the candidates. Uh they have five vacancies. Um so we need to make a we
need to appoint these people. Any questions, comments? >> The minimum that they can they need to be able to actually use the funds allocated to them is five. Correct. >> Yeah, that was my understanding. That's that's my understanding. Yeah. >> Yeah. That's great. Um,
I can make a motion if everyone's good. >> I move the board of selectmen appoint Diane Fay, Susan Sherman, and Christine Mariano to the cultural council effectively effective immediately through June 30th of 2028. >> Second. >> All those in favor? I
>> I. >> All righty. Um now uh next item is uh acceptance of resignation of the ADA coordinator and appointment of ADA coordinator Patricia Tucker. Um so we have the the resignation of Paul Armstrong um
effective uh 30 October 31st, 2025. Um and the appointment of an ADA coordinator has been placed in the job description of the building inspector that we're trying to fill. Um, but since the position's vacant, um, we need to appoint someone.
>> Should this appointment be interim or does it not matter? He'll just resign from it once the building commissioner gets hired. Okay. >> She thinks she'll resign. >> Maybe she wants to keep it. >> Maybe she applied to be building commissioner. I don't know. >> So, we have we have to do two motions.
>> I move the board of selectmen accept the resignation of Paul Armstrong as the ADA coordinator effective October 31st, 2025. >> Second. >> All those in favor? I >> that's unanimous. >> I move the board of selectmen appoint Patricia Tucker as ADA coordinator effective immediately. >> Second.
>> All those in favor? >> I. >> All right. >> Thank you, Trisha. Thanks for doing that. One more thing. >> Appointment of election officers. So, per mass general law chapter 54 section 12, the board of selectmen must appoint election officers once a year. So, the
list um we do have that attached. Um we've got the list of names. Um what's that? No, I don't think we have to read them all. >> No, it is on the agenda though. That is posted on the website. So, >> right. >> I move the board of selectman appoint the attached list of election officers
effective immediately through August 2026. >> Second. All those in favor? >> I uh the next item we have no update. I did what? Well, I will say I I circulated theou
just internally not out to water and sewer yet. Okay. >> So, I will be doing that. So, we will then need to put the hiring >> uh or moving forward with with hiring a um superintendent after we get that memo out memorandum out to everybody.
>> Can I What is the timing you think on that? >> The memorandum, right? >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And then the hiring like how what what do you think that >> How long does it take to post and >> highway superintendent? I was Yeah, the
>> posted at least for 10 days. >> Yeah. Okay. >> So, I I think arguably I mean we'll we'll need to talk to Tina about this um probably offline, but if if we aim for you know having the you know a person in
place by January 1. >> Okay. >> I don't know if that's uh reasonable. I know >> um we want to have some movement on theou >> before doing this. So, y >> um >> I think all parties involved are interested in that. So, it'll move
pretty quickly. >> Yeah, I think so, too. >> So, it just needs to go before >> water. Okay. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> I like that. I'm at least requested to be on their agenda. >> Yeah. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> All right. Um >> Thank you. Sorry. >> No, it's all right. Uh next item,
meeting minutes. Mhm. >> I move the board of selectmen approve the open session meeting minutes for October 7th, 2025 and October 21st, 2025 as presented. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I.
>> It's unanimous. All right, Josh. This is not a normal meeting. This we're we've moved through in about a half an hour. These are usually two, three hours long. So, you came to the right one and you were at the beginning anyway. So, that was good. >> Hopefully stayed the whole time, >> right?
Well, eventually they would if it was a regular meeting after an hour you'd probably be like, "We'll try to get out of here." >> Right. Um, is there a town administrator report? Anything you want to update us on? >> This time I actually put the the machine
on here. Um, um, the one thing that Tina and I have been working on, uh, it's been, uh, No, no, you can. I mean, it's all right. It's all right to go. I mentioned to you about the, um, the the the building inspector. Mhm. >> And we we currently had are we in fact
just as I got back from the doctor's office this afternoon, it looked like those two contracts may have come in. >> So, we're a step further than we were uh the week before. We've kind of jokingly called this this is like a Frankenstein experiment. If we can sew enough bodies
together, we'll have a huge uh one one person. So, we're getting >> parttime interim. >> Yes. We're trying to get them, you know, for the 90 days that we that we've got in, you know, 90 or 120. >> And if there's if everything works in your favor, um um uh hey, maybe you
might have somebody within 3 weeks, four weeks. I I don't know, you know, but but let's try to get a 90-day breathing period so that you'll have something and and hopefully >> maybe a week and a half or so or two weeks, we're going to try to get everybody together to to do it. and and
and of course we will run this by you. >> I mean not we're not just going to you know do it on our own. We'll we'll we'll run it by and you guys can approve it and but so far it has been done by the labor council. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So it's not like we're just flying by the seat of our pants here.
>> Um and um beyond that I we've been I've been trying to behind the scenes because I don't know how long before you'll have somebody to cobble together a bit of a budget. um and and and try to put as much as I can together and uh um and you
know it's coming along and I I mentioned maybe to a couple of the members that you know maybe we can meet on a on a night before the >> the uh the the >> uh town the selectments meeting here or whatever and and maybe have like a a
coalition of you know somebody from the finance somebody from the the um selectman and try to keep everybody informed where we are >> and if done in five weeks, two weeks, whatever it is, we'll just leave, hey, this is what I've got. Leave it on a stick and the next person can have it. They can
throw it away or or uh, you know, but it'll be better than nothing, you know. I mean, instead of just like I'm just coming in, you know, in a cold run, you know. >> Yeah. >> So, that that's about it at the moment. >> Appreciate that. Thank you. >> All right. Any any comments from
selectman? My only comment, I read the uh interesting way that Dubberry is going forward already with their override request for FY27. Um they've got two or three different
alternatives explaining what will happen for A, B, and C. So, uh, you know, I think that's kind of a a good, you know, thing to look at and think about that if in fact we have to go in that direction.
There's a a pilot there, so to speak. >> Yeah. if it if it means anything. We had a discussion this morning in the and I think what we did come to as a good thing is is rather than than coming up
with hey this is what the department does we we we everybody's preparing an impact statement as okay if I don't get the money this is what's going to happen department acts I lose two people I can't do this anymore >> right
>> and at least to be prepared for it again you might not need it but Um, I don't know. The the numbers aren't great right now. I don't think so. You know, I mean, >> and we all know that it all depends upon the schools
>> that if the schools come in at three three and a half%, then by God, I will be looking to see say that we don't need a two and a half override. If the schools come in at 7%, we got a problem. >> Okay.
Any other comments? So, our next regular meeting is November 18th. Um, reminder, we there is going to be a ceremony here on the the 11th, >> Veterans Day. Yes. 10:30 a.m. >> Thank you. And then the 15th, that
Saturday, we've got the uh special election, the ballot election. >> Um, so we have a lot of stuff coming up. and that is to uh fund the partial roof repair on the roof at the elementary school. So just keep that in mind.
>> It is leaking. So >> Right. actively and it has for years. >> Right. >> Right. >> All right. We should probably get at least a hundred people interested in voting on that separate >> out of 10,000. You mean >> se separate election day? >> Out of 10,000 people, we're going to get
100 people. What's the minimum >> one? I mean, >> yeah. >> Is it? >> I don't think there's a minimum vote for that. >> There's no Yeah, it's whoever shows up. >> Good. >> Well, I hope. >> All right. >> Uh, would anybody like to make a motion
to adjurnn? >> I'll move to adjourn at 6:35. >> Second. >> All those in favor? Eric, I >> just got just eyes. I'm not used to us all being here. >> All right. 5 0.
>> Same thing.