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Part 1 (Video ID: 1soCKB6pxLw):
- 00:30:59: Meeting Called to Order: Pledge and Announcements
- 00:34:36: Open Forum: Will Kushman Speaks on Lighting, Buses
- 00:37:39: Open Forum: Follow up Lighting Questions and Discussion
- 00:38:27: Board Reorganization: Chair, Vice Chair, and Clerk Appointed
- 00:40:22: Request Approved: Revolutionary War Memorial Stone on Green
- 00:41:11: Housing Production Plan Presentation and Discussion
- 00:55:15: Approval of School Roof Debt Issuance and Rollover
- 00:59:57: Public Hearing Explanation and Liquor License Transfer
- 01:04:44: IPCC Liquor Licenses and Property Purchase Discussion
- 01:27:44: Public Testimony: Indian Pond Country Club License
- 01:34:40: Public Testimony Ends, License Recommendation Discussion Begins
- 01:43:07: Public Hearing Closed, Indian Pond Votes Taken
- 01:47:55: Public Hearing Opened: Brazilian Point License Transfer
- 01:49:35: Brazilian Point License Transfer Discussion and Assurances
- 01:59:08: Brazilian Point License Close and Vote: No Action
- 02:00:12: Capital Planning Committee Presents Funding Recommendations
- 02:15:01: Capital Equipment Project Funding Approved
- 02:15:17: Transfer of Motor Vehicle Class 2 License Approved
- 02:16:22: Renewal of Razor Clam Licenses and Regulations Approved
- 02:17:44: Appointment of Board of Selectmen Representatives
- 02:20:54: Meeting Scheduling Discussion: Tuesday Consistent Dates
- 02:22:15: Discussion and Approval: Changing Meeting Schedule
- 02:23:17: Considering a Modified Summer Meeting Schedule
- 02:24:22: Adding Additional Signer for Weekly Warrants
- 02:25:44: Renewal of Pool Table Licenses for Several Locations
- 02:26:54: Reviewing Lottery Commission's Kino Monitor Request
- 02:28:03: Appointment of a Part-Time Administrative Assistant
- 02:28:52: Appointment of Interim Building Commissioner
- 02:30:30: Public Comment: Commission Communication with Building Inspector
- 02:31:38: Appointment of Sealer of Weights and Measures
- 02:32:45: Appointment to Kingston Educational Fund Trustees
- 02:33:33: Consent to Refinance the Point Apartments
- 02:34:36: Accepting Donations for Streets, Trees, Parks, COA
- 02:35:25: Budget Overview and Review for Town Meeting
- 02:39:51: Question about Consent Agenda for Town Meeting
- 02:42:38: Town Meeting Articles: Prior Year Bills Approval
- 02:44:46: Wastewater Enterprise Fund Budget and Revenue
- 02:47:29: Discussion: Retained Earnings and Motion Accuracy
- 02:49:07: General Fund Operating Budget Review and Approval
- 02:52:04: Water Department Enterprise Fund Budget Discussion
- 02:54:07: Well Cleaning, Replenishing Prior Special Articles
- 02:55:55: Water Tank Maintenance and Renewable Energy Fund
- 02:57:03: Discussion, Potential Changes to Revolving Funds
- 02:59:55: Establishing Police Revolving Fund; Opiate Funds
- 03:02:53: Transfer to Employment Liability Reserve Fund
- 03:04:38: Transfer to OPED Health Insurance Liability Fund
- 03:05:56: Moving Transfer to Capital Stabilization Fund
- 03:07:12: Discussion Municipal Building Insurance, Ambulance Purchase
- 03:08:36: Samson Fund Appropriations Discussion for Town Meeting
- 03:09:57: Reviewing CPC Administrative Budget and Housing Trust
- 03:12:11: Community Land Purchases Discussion, Disagreement
- 03:17:14: Historic Old Burying Ground and Heritage House Funds
- 03:18:38: Graze Beach Park Tennis and Basketball Court Rehab
- 03:20:14: Finance Committee Presents Elected Officials' Stipends
- 03:21:18: Discussion: Storm Water Permit and Citizen Petitions
- 03:23:50: Review: Waterways Improvement Funds Appropriation
- 03:26:45: Earlier New Growth, Military Leave Benefits Discussion
- 03:31:04: Authorization of Tax Title Payment Agreements Bypassed
- 03:38:50: Changes Accessory Dwelling, Zoning Bylaw and Dog Fees
- 03:47:59: Townwide Communications Plan Implementation Proposed
- 03:59:03: Transfer from Stabilization Fund Snow and Ice
- 04:00:11: Authorizing Long-Term Lease on Water Tank Telecom
- 04:01:31: Holding Discussion and Supplement for Police Funds
- 04:03:44: Chapter 90 Apportionment, Amending Open Space Bylaw
- 04:06:09: Changes Zoning Bylaw; Table Corrections-Housekeeping
- 04:08:55: Authorizing Town Clerk, Board Adjourns the Session


Part: 1

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It being 6 o'clock on Tuesday, May 19th, 2026, I'm calling this board of selectment meeting to order. And we'll begin with the pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation

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under God, indivisible, >> we can hear God >> and justice for all. >> They can't hear us. >> No, we can. >> This meeting is being recorded by the local scene. Anyone intending to make an audio or video recording of this meeting

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should notify us at this time. Financial assistance applications are available on the town's website or by calling the selectman's office. For anyone interested in volunteering, there are a number of vacancies on various committees and boards. I would say finance committee needing the most

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members. Um, so just keep that in mind. You don't have to be a finance expert. You just need to be curious about the budget and want to know how your tax money is being spent and be willing to ask questions. So, consider that appointment. To see a complete list of openings, please visit our website at

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kingstonmma.gov. Um, let's see. Please check our website for additional events or notices. We have a couple coming up soon. So, on Monday, this coming Monday, we have our Memorial Day parade which will begin at 10 a.m. near Cancun and we'll go down

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Main Street, Landing, Lynen, Maine, Green, Summer, and Evergreen. concluding at the townhouse for a ceremony on the townhouse lawn followed by a community cookout. Everyone is welcome and we hope to see you there. And thank you to the Memorial Day parade committee for all

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the planning and to the the veterans and the veterans department who does a lot of the planning for that event. The Best Buddies Challenge bike ride will be going through Kingston on Saturday, May 30th. So keep that in mind. It shouldn't be a huge impact on traffic, but if you

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see that um occurring, you'll know what's going on. The annual town meeting will be held Saturday, June 6th at the intermediate school starting at 9:00 a.m. And please keep in mind, we need 100 registered voters by 9:00 a.m. in order to get started. We have to wait

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for you if you're not there. In a town with 10,000 voters, sometimes it's hard to get 10 um 100 people to show up. So, please come vote. This is how we run this town. This is how we fund the budget and and and change our bylaws. So, please come. Um, Old Colony Elder

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Services is looking for a Kingston representative for the OCE board director position. Please see the board of selectman's office if interested. And then one more event, we have our tsentennial proclamation on Saturday,

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June 27th at 100 p.m. There will be a ceremony here on the town um actually up on the town green. So come join us and local dignitaries as we celebrate the historic event of Kingston evolving from the north precinct of Plymouth uh in

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1726. Are there any other announcements other than welcoming Sheila back to the board and Joe? Welcome to the board the election Saturday. Um these are your new these are your new selectmen and thank you to everyone else who run who ran as

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well. And if you're interested in something other than being on the board of Selectman, again, we have plenty of openings. So, welcome. Happy you're here. >> Thank you. >> Any other announcements? >> I got nothing. That was plenty. >> That is a lot. It was a mouthful. Okay.

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So, open forum. Is there anyone here who would like to speak at open forum >> today on Zoom? Will >> Kushman. Hello. My name is Will Kushman. 273 Main Street Kingston Mass. I'm

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coming to you to update you guys on some commission on disability stuff. I did some research yesterday and and and I believe that most of the I forget if I said this at the last meeting, but most

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of the Commission on Disability funding comes from municipal budgets. So, as I don't have a commission, I just want to let you guys know that as well, I'm working on getting more people hopefully

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sometime soon. And and couple weeks ago, I talked to somebody at a at at a public meeting that in the town hall about

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there's some lights that are being kind of bogglesome about, for instance, this shepherd's funeral home lights that are just shining super bright. I don't see why they have to be

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on all night. And then there's a place next door with a big light on a barn which is from what he said is very bright. So I'm just requesting

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from that person to the person who brought this to my attention hopefully maybe to have those shut off so people can possibly have a good night's sleep. Thanks Will. >> And

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uh and one last thing is I want to say welcome to Mr. Cunningham and Sheila Vaughn back Sheila back to this voter selection and Mr. Cunningham to the voter selection.

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>> Thanks Will. >> Thank you Will. >> The best if sorry. Go ahead Will. Sorry, that was my bad. I I just wanted to remind everyone in in the community that passing a school

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bus is illegal. And when the red lights are flashing >> and and school buses do include vans, school vans, which anything that has a school, anything that says school bus

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with a big yellow sign either on the roof that says school, anything with the word school bus on it is a considered school bus and can it be passed at any time when the red lights are flashing. Okay. Thank you, Will.

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>> You're welcome. Have a nice day. Thank you. >> I will. >> If someone had a question about street lights, when they're on or when they're off, would that fall under highway? Where does that fall? Highway. Yes. >> Okay. >> Uh, it's actually not. >> Sorry. Well, I was asking Scott, the

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town administrator. >> It It's not the street lights. It's on Shepherd's funeral home. >> Understood. >> Street lights. And the there's a big light on a big barn in the building next to it which is blaring into somebody's

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bedroom. >> Understood. So I would say but I had some questions from folks about some street lights too. So I was just confirming. >> Okay. My bad. >> Okay. All right. Anyone else? No. Okay. All right. So first

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appointment is reorganization of the board. Every year after our town election the uh select when discuss and vote a new board chair, vice chair and clerk. So um individually you can yes it

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goes individually. So does anyone want to be chair? I am willing to do it if you guys would like me to do it again. and I have done it in the past, but if someone is chomping at the bit to take over, have at it. >> I nominate Kim Emberg to be chairman of

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the finance committee, >> not finance committee, >> the supporter of selectmen for the next 12 months. >> Second. >> All right. All those in favor? >> I. >> Thanks, guys. All right. Um, okay. Does anyone want to

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be vice chair? thoughts. >> I don't mind being vice chair if someone wants to take over my clerk position. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> Anyone want to take notes? >> I I can do. >> All right. >> I've done it in the past myself. So,

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>> so I'm unless wants to be Carl. >> No, thank you. >> Okay. >> Do you want to be vice chair? >> No, thank you. >> Okay. All right. Any comments from Joe? No. Good with whatever. Okay. Uh I move the board of selectman appoint Missy Baitman for the position of vice

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chairman of the board of selectman. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> I >> Okay. And then do you want to make the nomination? >> Yes. Um I move the board of selectman appoint Sheila for the position of clerk

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for the board of selectman. >> Second. >> All those in favor? I >> I >> Oh, that was easy. >> All right. >> Okay, moving right along then. >> Nice. >> Okay, so we have a request from Kingston

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300th committee to place a Revolutionary War memorial stone at the town green. Um the person who had intended to be here to present this um item is unfortunately unable to be here this evening. So, just for for the public's benefit, the

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memorial stone, the intention is to place it on the town green dedicated to the citizens of Kingston that served during the Revolutionary War. The stone would be approximately 30 in long, 10 in wide, and about 22, sorry, 20 to 24 in tall with a base.

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I I don't have any objection to it, but I don't know if anyone else has questions or objections to that. >> I have no comments. >> I have nothing. So I move the board of suckman allow the placement of the revolutionary revolutionary war memorial stone to be placed on the town green. >> Second.

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>> All those in favor? >> I >> I >> Okay. Okay. So we are joined this evening by Jason D. Roer D. Ro. Was I close? Not even close. Okay. >> Well, um to present the housing

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production plan. So if you would like you could join us up at that microphone um and just introduce yourself and talk about the plan. >> Uh good evening slides. >> I do chair Emberg, members of the board of selectman. Uh my name is Jason D.

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Roger. I am the senior planner for housing um at the old colony planning council. Uh, I'm here tonight to present the draft Kingston housing production plan or HPP as I'll refer to it here on out for 2026 through 2031 and request formal adoption by the board of

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selectman uh of the plan so it can be submitted to the executive office of housing and livable communities or EOHLC um for formal certification. >> Thank you. >> When you get set up, you go to the second slide. >> So close. There we go. >> Nope. Yep. Yeah. Just take

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>> it's coming. >> That's just the introduction slide. >> Nice. Maybe. How's that? >> Thank you. >> Welcome. >> Uh this plan is Kingston's 5-year housing strategy. It is intended to help the town address housing affordability, changing household needs, and long-term planning priorities while also

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supporting progress towards state housing goals. It is important to note, however, that this is a policy and planning document. Uh it does not approve any specific housing project. Housing production plans help support town's sort of progress towards 40B. Uh

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so it does have a 40B sort of component to it. It is a requirement under 40B. However, the housing production plan is not specific to any particular h uh 40B project. And so that's just an important uh distinction. Next slide, please.

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Uh Kingston currently has just over 5,200 uh year- round housing units with 272 units on the subsidized housing inventory or just under 5.2%. That is below the state's 10% benchmark, which means the town still has a little

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bit of work to do if it wants to expand its affordable housing options and strengthen its position under uh 40B. >> Uh next slide, please. Uh the plan identifies several key housing challenges in Kingston uh such as limited housing diversity, rising

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costs um for both renters and homeowners, which means uh increasing cost burdening cost burdens, excuse me, and zoning and development constraints that limit the range of housing options that are available for uh residents. Next slide.

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Uh the plan also reflects changing demographics especially at the uh an aging population and smaller household sizes which means Kingston will need a broader mix of housing options over time. Uh the one thing to note here is that Kingston's median age is increasing

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um quite rapidly uh with uh rapid growth specifically in residents uh age 65 and older and especially among 75 uh plus. So, um there's very specific or unique housing needs um for that particular uh population which this housing production

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plan does spend a great deal of time sort of talking about. My colleague Zo uh Joanne Ziggman uh worked on is working on the Kingston's age friendly plan and we worked sort of in tandem to make sure that the housing goals that are identified in the housing production plan are part of the overall age

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friendly sort of um process uh that she has been working on as well. Next slide. Uh the plan identifies the need for housing that supports seniors, smaller households, local workers, households with more moderate incomes, and people looking for smaller or lower maintenance

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homes. In other words, this is not about one population only. It is about making sure Kingston has housing options for residents at different life stages and income levels. One thing that I was fairly committed to in this housing production plan was to make sure that we

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looked at life cycle housing. That someone who's born in the town of Kingston, if they choose to, can go through their various life stages in town and remain in town without having to move away and then potentially come back if they're able to afford to. >> Uh, next slide, please.

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Uh, a major theme of the housing production plan is that housing should be added in ways that are gradual, contextsensitive, and aligned with Kingston's character. The plan focuses on smallcale options, appropriate growth areas, adaptive reuse of um maybe

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underutilized um properties and design sensitive approaches rather than dramatic change to established neighborhoods. Um it was pretty clear in the beginning through working with the planning board um the affordable housing trust and through the survey and public

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engagement processes that was part of the housing production plan update is that people didn't want to lose the character of Kingston and so it was my charge I suppose was to make sure that we could balance housing production with ne with sort of maintaining neighborhood

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character that nothing in this housing production plan will significantly alter the way in which Kingston currently um exists. I suppose >> uh next slide please. >> Uh the recommendations are organized around five uh strategic goals.

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Strengthening housing uh leadership in town, creating new housing opportunities, modernizing zoning, preserving affordability, and improving education um and engagement. So that's really sort of all of the the strategies are built around these these five goals.

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Next slide, please. Um sorry uh implementation will require coordination among the planning department affordable housing trust and also includes sort of support through um various other towns boards and local partners including the board of selectmen, the housing authority, the

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CPC and other local partners. Um, missing missing middle housing is something that sort of is discussed a lot, but not a lot of people know what it is. Um, I guess from an insider baseball perspective, this is really what we're

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referring to. It's everything that exists outside of detached single family homes to low and mid-rise apartment buildings. So, everything that's in the middle there from heritage conserving infill, which is sort of like a larger single family home that might be able to be converted into a two family, for

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example. So it maintains the the scale and sort of look of a single family home but has sort of like maybe an upper and a lower unit or or a front and back for for example a duplex triplex and forplex for example town homes and small apartment buildings are sort of from

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planning uh perspective is what we refer to when we we discuss um missing middle housing and that's really what the Kingston housing production plan is focused on. Next slide please. Um, this one was out of place, but it's essentially uh the lead entities for the

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housing production plan uh implementation plan is largely the Kingston Planning Department and the Affordable Housing Trust. Um, supporting partners include Kingston Housing Authority, Board of Selecmen, Community Preservation Committee, uh, as well as the Old Colony Planning Council or other

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consultants. Um, I've said this multiple times to the planning board. Um I've indicated also to Val Massard Town Planner and the Affordable Housing Trust that in any way that I can be helpful um through a technical assistance or just general assistance um on sort of

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implementing the housing um production plan. Um we work with towns to submit uh one-stop applications and other grant applications to be able to support towns in actually implementing some of the things. So, it's not just a a plan that goes on a shelf or sits somewhere that it's actually implementable over a

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5-year period. Um, next slide, please. Uh, the key benefits of HPP adoption. Adopting the housing production plan gives Kingston a clear roadmap for housing policy, strengthens eligibility for certain state funding opportunities, and may support temporary safe harbor

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protections under 40B. uh if the town meets required housing production thresholds with an approved housing production plan, Kingston may be better positioned to claim temporary safe harbor protections if it produces affordable housing at the thresholds established by state law. So, um,

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without going into too much detail, if over, um, the the timeline of the housing production plan, Kingston produces 26 units, that gives you the town one year of safe harbor protections. Um, which is.5% of um,

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housing. Uh, 52 units within sort of like that that time period gives you two years of safe harbor protections. For some towns, um, safe harbor is important, um, to not put a strain on on resources or or infrastructure. Uh, next slide. >> Uh, the next steps are local adoption.

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Um, so essentially formal approval by the board of selectman and submission to EOHLC by June 30th. Uh, tonight's action would allow the town to formally adopt the plan and move it towards uh, state review and certification. Um, I guess in closing, the housing production plan

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gives Kingston a clear and locally grounded framework for addressing housing needs, preserving current affordability, and guiding future housing decisions. I respectfully request that this uh board of selectmen adoption of the plan so it could be submitted to EOHLC for certification um

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by June 30th of this year. Thank you. >> Thank you. Questions, comments? >> I think the plan looks good. I think the problem, at least for the 20 years that I've been working at government here in Kingston, is that there is never any

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development, I don't care if it's a uh sixunit development or a 46unit development that doesn't get push back from some neighborhood uh group for one group or another. I I I just hope that

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uh we as town um committees, etc., can be strong in trying to support housing development in this town. And and I think that's the only way we're ever going to get anything built.

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>> No. And that that's fair. And what I will say is um under goal five um the educate and engage goal, it's also recommended maybe that the town whether themselves through the

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affordable housing trust or in you know coordination or collaboration with groups like Old Colony Planning Council and other agencies to sort of like host informational sessions and sort of work groups and sort of um public forums around um what is so chapter two I spend

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a little more time than I probably should in the plan sort of talking about housing and sort of like what is affordable housing and what does affordable housing mean um I've worked in um a number of communities um I started my career in Boston um and so

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I'll use that as sort of um an anecdote I suppose that you can have city councilors you can have residents and you can have sort of nonprofit organizations talking about affordable housing but they're talking about different kinds of housing. Um, and so

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essentially whether you're in subsidized housing, you're in what we refer to as workforce housing, or you're in luxury housing, if you can't afford your housing, then it's not affordable. And so, we really need to make sure that we're sort of breaking down the complexities of housing and essentially

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it's it's home. Um, and how do we make sure that the folks who live in town or want to sort of like who go out for school and maybe want to move back or seniors who want to downsize are able to get their their homes in Kingston. And that might look different ways for different people um with different

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preferences. But um there is a a whole section or or a goal around education and sort of advocacy uh to make sure that folks that are coming out against a a project or a development are

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equipped with the with with the facts and the knowledge. Um because a lot of what they're and I and I experienced this sort of like helping towns comply with uh MBTA communities uh 3A zoning is that a lot of people came to town meeting or came to forums because they

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didn't have the information. They were making them the information up for themselves which was largely not the the case in in most cases. And so once I had the opportunity to sit down with them and talk them through their their concerns, their anxieties, they came out

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of it with a with a better framework of sort of like, well, maybe this isn't as bad as what I thought it was. So, but but that point is as well. >> Does the plan address um ADA accessibility as well? >> Yes. >> Okay.

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>> Yes. Um it talks about universal design and some frameworks of ADA accessibility. um there's this sort of like a I don't know a balance that needs to be maintained because it's not like a specifically senior housing plan. Not that all ADA is just senior specific but

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um it has to be sort of like so universal design is a way to sort of like cater to the needs of an aging population while also to families and other folks that you know might uh benefit from general accommodations. >> Sure. >> Thank you.

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>> Any other questions, comments? I move the board of selectmen approve the housing production plan as presented and allow the chair to sign the letter on behalf of the board. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> thank you.

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>> Thank you. And I will make sure that um the board of selection um and the acknowledgements are updated with the the new >> Sure. Of course. Okay, great. Um we're going to skip four for the moment. So, I don't see our

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Catholic planning chair here. Um, and we're not quite to 6:30, so we can't do our public hearing. So, we'll move to um approval of the issuance of the debt associated with the school roof project and approval of the rollover of the wellsite design and permitting.

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So, do you want to talk about this at all or I guess I mean there's a very very very very long motion here for us to read, but essentially we just need approvals on the the bond language. Is that am I getting that

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right, Ken? For the roof and the well. Okay. Um, which means we have to do story time. >> So, who wants to read this >> very long motion? >> Great. I got this. Okay. >> All right. >> Um,

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so we hereby determine in accordance with general law chapter 70B that the cost of the elementary school roof replacement project authorized by a town a vote of the town passed on October 28th, 2025, article 1, being financed with proceeds of a portion of the notes

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defined below, together with all other bonds and notes of the town previously issued to pay costs of this project does not exceed the portion of the total cost of the project. that is not being paid by the school facilities grant and we hereby approve the issuance of notes and bonds to finance this project under

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general law chapter 70B. further to approve the sale of the 1,900,000 wow 3.75% general obligation bond anticipation notes the notes of the town dated May

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29th 2026 and payable May 28th 2027 to Piper Sandler and company at par in acred interest if any plus a premium of 13,623 Wow Mhm. I told you >> further that in connection with the marketing and the sale of the notes, the preparation and distribution of the

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notice of the sale and preliminary official statement dated May 6, 2026 and the final official statement dated May 13, 2026 each in such form as may be approved by the town treasurer be and hereby are ratified, confirmed, approved, and adopted. Further, the town

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treasurer and the board of selectman B and hereby are authorized to execute and deliver significant events disclosure undertaking in compliance with section rule 15C2-12. >> I think it's SEC rule, sorry, 15C2-12

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in such forms as may be approved by a bond council to the town which undertaking shall be incorporated by reference in the notes for the benefit of the holders of the notes from time to time. Further, that we authorize and direct the town treasurer to establish post insurance federal tax compliance

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procedures and continuing disclosure procedures in such forms as the town treasur and bond council deem sufficient or if such procedures are currently in place to review and update said procedures in order to monitor and maintain the taxexempt status of the notes and to comply with relevant

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securities laws. further that any certificates or documents relating to the notes collectively the documents may be executed in several counterparts each of which shall be regarded as an original and all of which shall constitute one and the same document. Delivery of an executed counterpart of a

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signature page to a document by electronic mail in a PDF file or by other electronic transmission shall be as effective as delivery of a manually executed counterpart signature page to such document. and electronic signatures on any of the documents shall be deemed original signatures for the purposes of

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the documents and all matters relating there to having the same legal effect as original signatures. Further, that each member of the board of selectmen, the town clerk, and the town treasurer be and hereby are authorized to take any and all such actions and execute and

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deliver such certificates, receipts, or other documents as may be determined by them or any of them to be necessary or convenient to carry into effect the provisions of the foregoing votes. >> Great job. >> Thanks. >> Now, I'll do the second part, the tough part. Second.

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>> Any questions? That was a lot. No, we're good. All right. All those in favor? >> I I >> Thanks. Told you that was long. Yep. >> Okay. All right. It is 6:30, so we can move to the we can skip to the public hearings.

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Okay. So, I'm going to skip ahead to um number eight, which is our first of the public hearings. So, we have um an adjudic You say it.

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>> An adjudicator. >> I guess it's a judicary. >> A jud that's not what it looks like. >> Public hearing. >> Judicator. >> Oh, even better. Why don't you tell them what we're going to do? That'll be easier. You just turn this mic on right here and then introduce yourself.

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>> Hi everyone. I'm Kayla Venowskis. I'm an attorney with the firm me Tererman and Costa. I serve as town council. Um I am here on agenda items number eight through I believe it's 11 >> 10 and 11. Yeah.

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>> Um and these are liquor license hearings. Um these are public hearings. So I just want to give a quick explanation as to um how we will be proceeding. So the board will open the hearing. The public hearing notice will be read into the record. I will give a

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brief overview of um the facts underlying why we're here today. The lences will be present will be provided an opportunity to speak and to respond. Um myself and the board will have an opportunity to ask follow-up questions. The um the hearing will then

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be opened up to the public to provide public testimony and then I will provide the board with a summary of options and we will close the hearing for the board to deliberate and um take action or not on the licenses. And for the purposes of

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agenda items 8 through 10, we're going to consolidate these uh because they are the same lency um and transferee for each license. And so what I'm going to ask the board to do is to um open the hearing, read all three public notices into the record and

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then I will take it from there. Okay. So should I read the notices first and then open the We should open the hearing. >> I would open the hearing first. >> Open the hearing first. Okay. So, is someone want to make a motion to open the public hearing? >> I move the board open the public hearing.

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>> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> I >> Okay. So, read the first three public hearing notices. Okay. Board of Selectmen of Kingston as licensing authorities will hold a public hearing at Kingston Townhouse, 26 Evergreen

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Street, Kingston, Massachusetts, on May 19th, 2026 at 6:30 p.m. for Indian Pond Country Club function room 60 country club way Kingston Massachusetts to show cause why the annual restaurant all alcoholic beverage license should not be

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modified suspended or revoked for violation of master law chapter 138 sections subsection 15A and 23 transfer of the privilege of a license without proper approval failure to disclose all persons who have a direct or indirect beneficial

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interest in said license and or permitting an illegality to take place in or on the licensed premises to with non-compliance with MGL chapter 138. Second notice, the board of selectment of Kingston as licensing authorities

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will hold a public hearing at Kingston Townhouse, 26 Evergreen Street, Kingston, Massachusetts on May 19th, 2026 at 6:30 p.m. for Indian Pond Country Club, The Grill Room 60 Country Clubway, Kingston, Massachusetts, to show cause why the annual restaurant all

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alcoholic beverage license should not be modified, suspended, or revoked for violation of MGL chapter 138. Is it subsection? >> No, section. Just section. Okay. Section 15A and 23. Transfer of the privilege of a license without proper approval.

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Failure to disclose all persons who have a direct or indirect beneficial interest in said license and or permitting an illegality to take place in or on the license premises to wit non-compliance with MGL chapter 138.

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And the third, the board of selectment of Kingston as licensing authorities will hold a public hearing at Kingston Townhouse 26 Evergreen Street, Kingston, Massachusetts, on May 19th, 2026 at 6:30 p.m. for Indian Pond Country Club members pub 60 Country Club Way,

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Kingston, Massachusetts to show cause why the annual restaurant all alcoholic beverage license should not be modified, suspended, or revoked for violation of MGL chapter 138 section 15A and 23, transfer of the privilege of a license

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without proper approval, failure to disclose all persons who have a direct or indirect beneficial interest in said license, and/or permitting an illegality to take place in or on the licensed premises to which non non-compliance with MGL chapter 138. >> Thank you.

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All right. So, for these three licenses, we're here because on or about April 27th, 2026, uh the town became aware that there was there was a transfer of ownership of the Indian prop of the Indian Pond Country Club from Indian

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Pond Country Club Incorporated to Palma IPCC Incorporated. Um, Indian Pond Country Club holds three separate licenses as you were just made aware and to date the board has not um

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been asked to approve any of the license transfers and so essentially a transfer of ownership requires approval by the the local licensing authority or in this case the board of selectmen and approval by the ABCC. We received applications

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yesterday for um for transfers but um the board has not had an opportunity to approve such transfers. And so we are of the understanding that the premises is being operated by a new owner without a valid

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liquor license. >> Yes, please. And when you get to the microphone, just make sure the little green light is on and then if you could just introduce yourself. >> Good evening. Um my name is Albert Dapoli. I'm the attorney for Palmer

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IPCC, Inc. Um the new owner of the property. Um just by way of background, uh um I want to congratulate the chair, the new members of the board. Uh I was selecting for six years in my town and

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chairman of the finance committee for seven. And the only reason I say that because I understand the severity of the situation and I understand the difficulty of the situation and certainly we did not want to cause any

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harm uh any confusion with the town or the board. Um the country club is a very important part of the town, the neighborhood and uh the citizens of Kingston. Um we were in the process of

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buying the property and the um the 100% owner of Palmer IPCC Inc. Bobby Palmer is with me today to also answer any questions. He is the 100% owner. Um yesterday we came forward and uh uh we

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submitted three uh lengthy and large packages as as I'm sure the board and attorney understand uh of transferring seeking to transfer the liquor licenses to the new property owner. But we also

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submitted and I hope the the um the board has had a chance to review a interim management agreement. Um and the idea was that in that is that although the property itself uh was purchased by

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uh um Mr. Palmer's company, if you will, uh that the liquor license owner is staying on board to operate the liquor license. We know there was a timing issue and Mr. Tonsburgg uh entered into

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the interim management agreement with us that he is staying on board. He has complete absolute control of the liquor um sales, liquor license, all the revenues uh his revenues. He has

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maintaining insurance that's detailed in the interim management agreement that his employees and the sale of alcohol are staying on board. So um although there there there are two things here we

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believe there's the property and there's the liquor uh licenses and Mr. Palmouth through his company purchased the property. Um but we knew that the liquor sales had to be operated without Mr.

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Palmer but to the present owner of the liquor licenses until the years approval of the transfer of those uh liquor licenses and that's why we um had um

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completed before the sale the interim management agreement. That's why Mr. Tronsburg has agreed to stay on and be active. In fact, he is uh renting a u an office at the location. Uh he'll be on site. Uh and the um and so those facts

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we believe, you know, um you know, mitigate anything that I think that may not have followed the the letter of um a regulation here. And we ask that the you know, board take that in consideration. uh understand that although it may

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appear as if the you know liquor license would be transferred that's not what happened. There's there's a property component and that's separate. Uh and we um and that's all we purchased at this time. Um of course we intend to seek the

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transfer of the liquor licenses uh and um that those applications have been submitted uh and um so we're working we're working towards that. Um there's um you know a a lot of um

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neighbors uh consumers customers who have um engaged with the country club for a number of different you know personal events that um Mr. Palmer through his company will host at his

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site but Mr. Tonsburg through his company who holds the liquor license will be working all the alcohol there. And so we asked this the the board to consider that uh to not take any action

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suspension or or revocation. Not only would it hurt the present license holder uh the present property owner but uh numerous individuals who depending on the site for all kinds of events through

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the summer months. And you know we we've worked closely with the neighbors. uh they're excited about the no ownership of the country club and uh we hope to continue and we're sorry that um we're starting you know this way with you know

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an issue but was an issue that we didn't really intend to happen and that's why we had the interim management agreement and Mr. Palmer is here if he if you like ask him any questions or myself. Um, of course we're here to answer any.

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>> Um, unless the board would like to ask questions. I do have a few and then I can turn it over to the board for any. Okay. Um, can I ask what date the property was transferred? >> May 1st. >> May 1st. >> And may I ask you have a copy of the interim management agreement?

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>> I do. Okay. Thank you. Nothing. >> Um, so we do have a copy of the purchase and sale agreement. I'm not sure if this is a draft or this is the fully executed form, but there is a section regarding transfer of liquor license in that

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agreement page 36. um which acknowledge the requirement that the transfer um require acknowledges the obligation of both parties to obtain approval by the

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board and the ABCC in order to affect a transfer. And I believe this was drafted in April of 2026 or maybe finalized in April of 2026. But it it looks like you there was notice of the um transfer obligations at

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that date. Is that correct? >> I'm I'm sorry. Yeah, >> that's okay. That's okay. Um based on the language in the purchase and sale agreement, which was either drafted or executed in April of 2026. Um the parties were on notice that the

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transfer of the license needed board and ABCC approval. Is that correct? >> Yes. And we understand that's that's that's true. that that has to happen. That's why we had the interim management agreement knowing that as we recognized

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in the asset purchase agreement, that's something that has to happen before Mr. Palmer or his company can can um operate the liquor service there. So that's um that's true. >> Okay. And so

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when I'm so I'm looking at the interim management agreement and when I look at the language of this agreement it's not clear to me that um the management agent which I Mr. Mr. Palma, that's you. Um, I'm I'm unclear

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what role the original lency has from like daytoday. I understand that they may be they may be retaining an office. They may be on site, but can you elaborate because I'm just concerned that it looks like they the transfer has

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been made on paper. Um, but Mr. Palmet I think you it looks like you still might retain sole control um of day-to-day decisions related to the liquor license other than the fact that this the old owner might be um ordering the alcohol

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um >> submit the final order for approval. So say if we need to make certain orders or whatever we're going to do we then place it he approves it and he he places the order >> and he's on site for this. >> He has been. Yes. Yep. And not only that, I said he has leased an office to

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be on site, too. So, he will be on site. >> I mean, and he's continues to be on site. >> The goal is to get the transfer done as soon as possible. So, he's not on site, but currently that's what we have to do right now. >> Okay. And I just want to point out too,

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I mean, I'm sure you know, but the transfer of who serves as your manager also require requires local licensing authority approval. So the interim management agreement is not actually effective until the local licensing authority approves the transfer of manager or the

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implementation of a new >> still the same manager Mr. Mr. Tonsburg is the manager of record on the liquor licenses so that hasn't changed either his company holds a liquor licenses and on the um liquor license itself Mr.

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Tonsburg is the manager of record so that's not changed as well at this point but I understand what you're saying. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. >> And then I just want to look at the section employees. It says and you just mentioned that the lency agrees to use only its present employees. Um but then

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it goes on to say all such employees shall be employed by management agent. So I believe you mentioned that um IPCC would retain its own employees and those employees would be charged with the date with the operation of the liquor license

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premises premise. But you you are actually um the employer of the employees. Is that correct? >> Uh correct. All the employees are the same. There no new employees that are handling the liquor at all.

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>> And if you're both you're both obtaining liquor license insurance or you both maintain liquor license insurance. Yes, >> both have liquor license insurance as

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well as general liability insurance >> and and workers comp insurance. >> Okay. So, you've taken on so you are now fully own you now fully own the property. You employ the employees who who are similar or the same as the

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employees who were previously employed by the original lency and he is maintaining all responsibility for liquor um license obligations including running the day-to-day operations of the liquor license premise.

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>> Correct. >> Okay. Okay. Apologies. I just want to make sure I ask you all my questions right now. Actually, I'm going to turn to the board if the board has any questions. >> Any questions so far?

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>> I have a general question is what is the quickest and um most efficient way of resolving this situation? um in all in a favorable way to see that the country club can continue to operate

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in business. >> So you have submitted all three of your applications to date. That's is that correct? >> Yes, correct. We have. >> And will you be changing you will obviously be changing the manager of the operations as well? We have a new manager application in there with his

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Corey, his um his certificate of alcohol service, uh his passport, uh copy of his driver's license, um and it's all in. So, it's it's it's all in there for a a new manager. >> Okay. Um and I'm I'm sorry, I will

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answer that question, but can I just ask one more question about compensation? It looks like um so it looks like the original lency will be um receiving the compensation from this from this property or these

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properties but then they're paying it to you. >> Is that correct? >> It's only to to use to pay for the um use of you know ordering the liquor and whatever to bring the revenue. It's all it will all go to um the license holder

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now. Okay. It's all it will all be his revenues. It's just that those revenues will be used to buy liquor and all the supplies surrounding any of the liquor um and um ancillary matters conserving

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the service of liquor. >> Okay. So, you'll only you're just being paid a rental fee. >> I'm sorry. Yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> Thank you. >> Um Okay. Um

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so back to Mr. Peg's question. So I think based on what you've just told me, it sounds like you have three applications in. I am now of the understanding that the original Lency, Mr. Tonsburg, is ret is remaining on site in charge of operations. He is

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receiving all monies received for for alcohol purchased. He is making the purchase of all alcohol. He is retaining um liquor liability insurance and he is not and you are not proposing to change the manager on this property. >> Exactly. That's all true.

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>> Until the transfer happens, which hopefully is. >> And he he has agreed to stay on until that transfer is finalized. Correct. >> Yes, he has. As as said in the management agreement, it's contemplated there will be a change. Yes. >> Okay. So then um

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you know we still have to open it up for public testimony but the quickest way to resolve this issue I think is we we've received assurance that Mr. Tonsburg remains involved and that he remains on-site and he remains liable and responsible for all liquor license

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promise obligations and responsibilities. Um the board can schedule a hearing on the applications that they've received yesterday. We of course can't consider those today because they weren't noticed. Um and so we can't consider any you know any information that may be

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contained within but it does sound like some you know some of the concerns that I had were the lack of um was the change in manager which would have been um which would have required things as you know like a Corey forum do dua um

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certification of cert certification of compliance um financial records but it seems like that's all forthcoming and you are not actually changing the ownership interest of the license to date. I would caution though that my concern when I first looked at this

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management agreement was that you were you were on paper transferring um or I'm sorry, you were you were only the manager on paper. And so I want to make sure that we're clear that all all liquor premises and license obligations

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remain with the original Lency. >> Correct. >> Okay. >> Until the transfer, right? >> Yeah. Correct. >> So then the board will just take the board will now take all steps to schedule a hearing on the new applications. Um and we have agreement

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that the um original owner will remain on site and in charge until such date as the transfer is affected by both the board and the ABCC. >> And just one other step, we've talked to the assessor's office. Pam there has a

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list already because I spoke to her yesterday of all the abutters. um and prepared uh with all the labels. Um I didn't have the $75 in cash to give. I only have 55. So I have to wait for send her a check and she'll send it to me. But we're having plenty of time

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to get the the hearing notice because I know it has to be publicized for the transfer and then we have three days to notify the abuters and certified. So we we get that process moving too. >> Okay. Before we close the hearing, the board makes any determinations. I do.

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Um, do you have anything else to add? And does the board have any additional questions? >> That was my only question. Sorry. >> Um, I do have to go close my windows after this because my windows are are done. Um, if everybody's windows are down. Um, so I did notice in the um in

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his interim management, it does say within 30 days that you would try to get the licenses in, which you actually it's skirting into that part. would does that mean that we should we try to get a meeting together?

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>> No, I believe meant that we were going to file everything we needed to transfer within 30 days of this. >> I thought if we need to have a meeting quicker than the two the next two Yeah, we have to post and for a public hearing notice. >> Okay. Just to make sure that can be

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done. Okay. >> Yeah. Thank you. That was mean we we had 30 days from that time to get the process going which we did. >> So make sure we don't have to do anything. We were well within 30 days. >> No, that was my question. >> So, we don't have to pay him any more than we need to. >> Yeah, it it'd be great if we could do it sooner.

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>> Maybe that's possible. >> I thought exactly. >> I know you're going to set the summer schedule for the board. So, >> Oh, we'll see. >> We look forward to that. >> We've never had a summer schedule before, so it's the first thing. >> First time. Do would you want to go shut your windows? >> Yes, I'm sorry. >> Okay, go shut your windows.

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>> Sorry. We had thunder and now we've got people with car windows open, so we'll adjust that. >> Um So I I want to be accommodating to and build a positive working relationship with a new business owner in our town.

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We have kind of a history with the prior owner. So I guess my only concern is that I hope that this is what it >> it says it is and that he does what he's supposed to do. >> So that's my only my only hesitation in

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any of this is I have concerns about that just based on our history working with him. But I also want to start on a good foot with you. So, >> yes, thank you very much. And I I do as well. And I promise it'll be a much different situation going forward.

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>> And I'm sorry. In this in the management agreement, you're listed as the management agent, but you mentioned that the old lency is staying on as the manager. Is management agent just a just a term of art you're using in this agreement between those two parties? You're not intending to become the

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manager of this business at this point? >> He's not. and he's not even the manager of record that we have in our three applications. Bobby is not. There's another individual who has trained in the service for years that's going to be the manager record. It's just management

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agent which is a term of art to to get the management agreement as to how Mr. Tonsburg's going to stand and stay on you know while mr. Palmer to his company you know is owning the property. >> Okay. So, what do you envision your

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day-to-day looks like when for on these um these specific rooms? So, I believe it's a a pub, a meeting room, and a function room. Um because you own the property now and now he is running the liquor business. What does your day-to-day look like? >> I'm pretty much shadowing him all, you

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know, whenever he's there to to make orders, to do things. Um I'm in each department, you know, working with the girls in the vents, the golf department, um the members pub. I mean, essentially just trying to take it and revamp it, make it what it should be. That's my goal the last two weeks I've been doing

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is just looking at the vision and trying to recreate it and make it what it should be. >> Okay. >> So, yeah, day to day I'm there every day. >> But you don't have control over the beverage operations. >> I I'm I'm control. I'm not putting the orders in. No, >> that's what you mean.

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>> Okay. When you say control, you mean like providing direction and actual management oversight. >> Exactly. Authority over management, ordering, >> making decisions. Exactly. >> Okay. >> Because if he were, then that that would be a problem. >> Okay.

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>> Yeah. >> Any other questions from the board? >> I don't have any. I I am also, you know, hopeful that with the new ownership, we have a, you know, a new relationship to build. Um, so I I'm hopeful that that's going to happen and I look forward to

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working with you. >> I can promise you that. >> Thank you. I do just want to note that we um we need to open it up for public testimony as well. And so I uh there may be additional questions at the end of that period. But if is there anybody

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from the public who would like to speak on this matter either in person or online? You guys can sit now for a little bit if you want. >> Yeah. >> And I am just going to ask um anybody who wants to speak um please provide your name and address prior to speaking

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and please keep it to this topic which is the liquor license um the purported liquor license transfer from Indian Pond Country Club to Palma IPCC Incorporated. >> Sure. Uh David Fuller 233 Country Club Way. Um, first off, I want to state that

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I am ecstatic that Mr. Palmer is taking over this club. This club has been a disaster, a nightmare for the residents of the Indian Pond community for the

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last 25, 30 years. As we all know, we won't get into the sorted details, but um I first wanted to say that and and thank you. Honestly, thank you. You're welcome. >> Um and and we do want to work with you

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100%. But with that being said, I have various concerns. And here we go again. First of all, the owner of the license isn't even here. Where is he?

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He's asking for the TR. He doesn't own the license. So, he's making all these deals. The owner's not even here, right? He didn't even have the cones to come in here to talk to you people, right?

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And then, um I'm sorry, I I forget your name. Um the attorney. Yes. Sorry. >> Kayla. >> Ka Kayla. >> You hit the nail on the head, right? The liquor license transfer was part of the purchase and sale agreement, right? They

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had the knowledge of what needed to be done, what was right by the law, right? Instead, what we have here is a continuation of Fred Tonsburg senior doing what he wants, right? Violating

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the town bylaws, violating the state laws. We have him coming in through his proxy asking for forgiveness rather than permission.

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And at some point we have to say no. No. 25 years of his nonsense. Enough is enough. And I'm sorry. You got in bed with a snake. You got in bed with a scumbag.

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A liar. and he's lied to this board for decades. They're embroiled in a lawsuit. The residents of the community are embroiled in a lawsuit with and no sooner did a judge dismiss the

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resident's claim then this transaction occurred not by the purchase and sale agreement but instead we come with this shady agreement

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after the fact and they want you to buy Ask for some proof. This agreement's been going on for 3 weeks. Let's see the bank statements. Let's see what's been going on. Where's the transparency? Where do they have

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something to hide? If this is more than just paper, they should be able to provide this board proof that they've been acting in accordance with these agreements for the last three weeks. You're telling me the old man sitting in there, the puppet master?

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So, I'm still unclear whose employees are these. Are they senior's employees? They're his same employees. Are they now under his new company? These employees are serving the liquor, right? Who has control over them?

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I mean, I have a lot of questions now. Mind you, I'm a little fired up because I've been dealing with hell for 25 years. in this neighborhood. And please don't misconstrue it. I want to go out and have a beer afterwards. I want to

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talk about how the heck we can make this community the greatest community on the Southshore, right? But I got a guy who has lied countlessly, broken so many promises and

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laws over the years attempting to skate like a thief in the night with your money and not do the right thing for the town and the neighborhood. And that's not right. And that's not right. And I can't

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in good conscience stand here and allow that to happen. Even though I wholeheartedly love the fact that you're buying a place, but I think at some point he has to be held responsible.

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And to me, this is the final straw and there has to be accountability, right? So that's where I'm at. I actually didn't think I was going to make a little speech tonight. I actually thought this was going to get continued.

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Um, so I wasn't really prepared, but that's what I got off the top of my head. So there you go. Just one man's opinion. Thank you. >> Thanks, David. >> Can I ask a question? I know it's the public, but just a quick question just to speak to that. There is something in

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the in the um sale agreement that is about the transfer of liquor license and it speaks to the fact that a management agreement can be made. Is that true with the liquor licenses? Part B, transfer of liquor license.

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>> I'm just trying. It's not out of the scope of what we're doing. >> That's a good question. um that so that's really an agreement between these two private parties and >> you know >> from what I understand and of course

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>> Mr. Fuller >> Mr. Fuller Mr. Fuller is right you know Mr. Tonsburgg is not here to speak to, you know, his side of things, but >> um the liquor license management agreement from my understanding doesn't change ownership of the liquor license

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as as we've been assured. >> Okay. >> Just um so from what I understand, the manager is unchanged and so the owner and manager remains Mr. Tonsburg of record and of course the board can give whatever credibility it does to the fact

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that he is not here to speak. um you know on on the purported transfer of the license but >> okay >> you know I thank Mr. full for raising that. >> It's up to the board. >> Let her Let's let her finish and then >> um that's actually all I have on that.

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>> If the board would like to allow >> respons >> there might be you might want to wait until there may be other things you want to respond to. >> Okay. My name is Ken Mally, 111 Road. I've lived in this town for 30 years. I've

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seen that golf course the same as Mr. Fuller has. Um, but I also know Bobby Palmer and I know Bobby Palmer didn't get to where he is today by doing things illegally. He's just laid out a lot of money to

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help this community and to put hurdles in front of him at this point is a ridiculous notion. Now, in every large sale, private sale,

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there's a certain amount of um non-disclosure. There's a certain amount of secrecy you want around the deal. So for Mr. Palmer, Mr. Palmer's agents to come to the select board prior to a

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deal being closed, I think would have been premature. Now, in any transfer of ownership and in any transfer of management, there is I've I know myself because I hold a license, a liquor license in this town

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and I know the procedure and I know it's a long procedure and you folks wouldn't have been able to turn on a dime at the time that they knew that this the deal went through because if they had come to you in April when they signed the PNS,

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they would have tipped their man and that's not smart business as Mr. Palmer will tell you. So hopefully my being a man of tremendous standing in this town like Bobby Palama, I would hope that I

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would encourage this board, please let let them take the time to do the change of management, to do the change of uh ownership and get this license in in uh in action

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without any pause. All right. So thank you very much for hearing me out. Thanks, Ken. >> I have a question. If for whatever reason he Mr. Tonsburg didn't hold up his part of this, he didn't start coming

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in or he didn't At what point is that I mean that would be a liability for the new owner. Correct. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. So, it's in it's in their best interest to make sure that he's doing what he's supposed to be doing. >> Yes. I mean, you couldn't continue operating the liquor licensed

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establishments, of course, because you you don't have ownership or management authority. >> Okay. Does anyone else want to speak from the public? >> All right. >> No one m either. Okay. Did you do you want to did you want to address

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anything? >> I'm sorry. You'll have to go up there only because the microphone captures it for the folks at home and for the recording. We can hear you in here, but they can't. >> Sorry. >> Someday we'll get one of those mics.

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>> I think both both individuals have said this whole thing is to move forward. That's what we're trying to do. Yeah. So, I know there's history, but we want to move forward. Thank you. >> Same thing. I just >> Thank you. >> But if we could just put that money in a

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trust for the for the Indian Pond people, that would be wonderful. So they could get some of that money, but they don't. >> All right. So what are our options and what is your recommendation at this point? >> All right. So >> should we >> I do just want to give a quick little sort of summary. Um

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>> should we close the public hearing first? Not yet. Okay. >> Um Mr. Tonsburgg is the holder of this license and he is not present tonight to speak on um whether or not he affected a transfer of the liquor license. All we have is Mr. Palma um and his council who

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provided um significant assurances that they are the new property owners but they are not running this business. And so that means that the board needs to decide if they um if they believe that Mr. Tonsburg retains ownership of both the premises and the operations

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dayto-day. Um the board has a few options here. If if you believe that there's sufficient evidence that a transfer of ownership or a transfer of management has ch has occurred, the board can

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either revoke the license. The board can suspend the license and the suspension can be for either defined period or for an indefinite period. What an indefinite suspension would mean is that the the suspension would be effective until or it would be lifted upon approval by

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yourselves and the ABCC of a for a formal transfer of the license. Um the board could take the board could take no action. However, if you believe that there's sufficient evidence that a transfer has occurred, such u no action would mean that they continue to operate without a valid license.

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If you can also continue this to to another hearing uh or to another date u time and date certain if you need more information. If you believe that there is not sufficient evidence um to suggest that a transfer occurred and you believe that

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Mr. Tonsburg retains ownership and authority and responsibility um for his licenses, then my recommendation would be no action. Um and because because no transfer of ownership or management has occurred.

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Can >> can I have a clarification? >> Yes. >> So transfer of ownership or transfer of management. >> What if there was a transfer of ownership but not transfer of management? Because I do feel like >> not the property. >> Not the license. So the property it the

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property can be owned by him but not the act. So there so like I just want to be sure that like the ownership of the licenses. >> Correct. >> Exactly. >> Okay. So it's not the ownership of the property. He has the ownership of the property but it's the licenses that we're making sure that those are his. Okay. >> Exactly. And I realize that that's

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splitting hairs but >> No, but it's >> important to note because I think that's important. Okay. >> But either either a transfer of ownership or a new manager would require board approval. And so if if you find that either occurred, then action would

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be appropriate on the license. Okay. Thoughts? And so at this point, do you want to close the hearing or do you have does anybody have any questions, concerns? I don't want to add anything additional before we deliberate or you deliberate. >> One more question.

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>> I just want to get him as quickly as possible >> to be everything. So, if I need to get a meeting on the books as quickly as possible, I will because I just want the other one out as quickly as possible. So amazing.

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>> So I just want to say that, you know, >> I I feel bad because you did >> go into business with somebody that obviously people are not happy with, but we want you to run a business and we do know that, you know, it's coming up on a holiday weekend and I know that you do, you know, we don't want to ruin people's

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time and things you have planned as well because, you know, if somebody's getting married this weekend or something like that, there's nothing worse than saying, "Oh, by the way, you know, it's just it's not just about," and I hear what David's saying. It's not just about him and it is it's he's a terrible person, but it's about the people that are are

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coming there for their weddings and for their for their events in these next few weeks that will be affected. >> Yeah. So, I guess the questions before us are whether there's sufficient evidence that the an illegal transfer

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occurred or not because I think that's the primary issue at hand for us to >> talk about. Do we um is there anyone else from the public that wants to speak? >> No. Okay. So, do we want >> I move the board close the public hearing. Second. >> All three of them.

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>> Second. I think it was just one all three of them. >> All those in favor? >> I I >> Okay. >> And I do just want to add you'll have to take action on all three licenses separaten on each. >> Okay. I personally, as one member here, am

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willing to accept and believe that the new ownership of the country club is being truthful and is doing everything he can to get to a position where the

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liquor licenses are transferred legally. I also believe that he has the uh this management interim interim management agreement in place and that he will be strong enough to see that uh Mr.

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Tonsburgg the current holder of the licenses is in fact running the liquor operation. That's all I have to say. >> Okay. Anyone else? Okay. So

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it sounds like people want to not suspend nor revoke >> no action >> but allow them to move forward with this current arrangement and proceed with the transfer. This is what I'm gathering from. >> I'll make a motion to not

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>> what's the >> not action >> no action on um on the three motions for each separately. So yeah, >> um can you give her the wording? Let me say >> I'll author a motion if

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>> Sure. Absolutely. And I'll say so moved. Um, so I s a motion could be I move to not revoke the all alcohol license issue to Old P

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Indian Pond Country Club um >> function room >> function room for the term beginning January 1, 2020 2026 through December 31, 2026. >> Okay, so moved. >> Okay, so moved. Yeah. Okay.

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>> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I I >> Sorry guys, I forgot that's my job. That's okay. >> Okay. So then, so the motion will be moved to not revoke the all uh >> all alcohol license for Indian P.

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>> You got it. You do it, Sheila. >> Um yes. To uh to not revoke all alcohol license Indian Pong Country Club from uh January 1st,6. >> Is it the grill room? >> The grill room. >> Mhm. >> Good. the grill room from 126 to 123126.

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>> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> I. >> And lastly, not revoke all alcohol license for the uh Oh, members >> members. >> Members P. >> Second. >> I >> Wait, you got to say the rest of it.

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>> 1126 to 123126. >> I don't think we named the L E though. >> Oh, um I'm sorry. not revoke all the all alcohol license for the Indian Pine Country Club for the >> um >> members >> members club. Mhm. Sorry.

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>> Okay. And then 11 126 >> 11 126 to 123126. >> Okay. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> I >> Okay. because the notice was to be focused to

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modify the motion just to add or suspend. >> Um we said we moved to make to take no action. >> Okay. >> Yeah. So no action should be good right >> for you. >> No action. Yeah. >> Okay. >> He's not wrong though. We did we might have said not revoke on the first one.

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>> Okay. So I mean no action. Take no action on both. >> Take no action from the amendment. >> From the amendment to no action. Just want to make sure that >> Yes. take no action >> and hopefully get those licensed >> next week. Let's go.

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>> Thank you for the That was good. Thank you for that. >> Um thank you. >> Okay. >> Do we need do we need to schedule the next public hearing concerning this? >> Not now. You've received the application. So that will be done in the normal course. They have to provide

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specific notice. So they might have an idea as to dates but that's the board will really manage scheduling. Trisha will be in touch with dates, right? Yeah. >> Thank you everyone. >> Thank you. >> Welcome to Kingston.

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>> Um okay. So should we just move on to the second one? Okay. So this is similar similar issue. Um okay. So this is another transfer of privilege of a license without proper approval or failure to disclose all

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persons who have a direct or indirect beneficial interest. So public hearing notice is the board selectment of Kingston as licensing. We didn't open the >> Oh, you want to open it first? >> Yeah. Okay. We don't we don't usually that's why throw me off. That's okay. We usually read the notice first. >> Oh, then feel feel free. >> Oh, it's fine. It doesn't matter. Do

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someone want to make a motion to open the public hearing and then >> I mean the board open the public hearing. >> Second. >> All those in favor? I >> I Okay. Now, >> the board of selectment of Kingston as licensing authorities will hold a public hearing at Kingston Townhouse, 26 Evergreen Street, Kingston,

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Massachusetts, on May 19th, 2026 at 6:40 p.m. for Brazilian Point Incorporated, 15 Main Street, Kingston, Massachusetts to show cause. Why the annual convenience store all alcoholic beverage license should not be modified, suspended, or revoked for violation of

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MGL chapter 138 sections 15A and 23 transfer of the privilege of a license without proper approval. Failure to disclose all persons who have a direct or indirect beneficial interest in said license and/or permitting an illegality to take place in or on the license

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premises to non-compliance with MGL chapter 138. Okay. >> Okay. >> Hello. >> Okay. Um, it seems like there's a lot here. So, I guess for purpose for purposes, >> seven puppies. Take one and pass it

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down. That's fine. >> Perfect. >> Thank you. Um, I'll just briefly explain why we're here and then I'll let you speak to um what you brought. So on May 4th, I believe I believe it was

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May 4th at a board of health hearing, the owner of record of this liquor license um uh stated that and I'm sorry I wrote I wrote this quote down. The minutes are not yet ready. Okay. Um

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quote, "We sold the business about two months ago." And the owner went on to state to request that the board of health consider not issuing a 7-day suspension on the license because they didn't want the current owners to be penalized. The owner went on to state that he's

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still in possession and still owns the business but is working through the process. Then later on confirmed the business was sold two months ago and it was under new ownership. Um, so I guess we're here because there's been we've received information that the the

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business was sold at I think that's about two and a half three months ago now. Um, and we received no application for a transfer of the liquor license. Um, and so if you'd like to speak to that. >> Yes, thank you. Uh, Jennifer Allen,

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attorney on behalf of Brazilian Point, Inc. and the client. Um, essentially this is a case of miscommunication and misuse of legal terms and language. Mr. Dilva, the seller here, is in the

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process of selling his business. I know that Mr. Dilva stated that he sold the business because they had a signed purchase and sale agreement, the AP asset purchase and sale, which I gave you multiple copies of. This was a clear misstatement.

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Mr. Dilva has not transferred stock, nor has he relinquished any interest or ownership of the business. He remains the lawful owner and operator of the establishment and is still at the store every day. He has assigned asset purchase and sale,

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which I provided a copy for the board. A contemplated sale that has not closed does not constitute a violation warranting suspension, revocation absent an actual conveyance of ownership or operational control. The buyers are

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in the process of transferring all of the licenses and permits in the lease. The buyer is also here to attest to this if you have any questions as well. Both Mr. Dilva and the buyers are aware that all licenses must properly transfer

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before the closing can take place and both parties are actively working on this. As part of the sale, Mr. Dilva is currently also training the buyer in order to ensure a smooth transition when the sale occurs. And I have reviewed

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that document and it also does speak to the training and the process for the transfer of the license. I encourage all of you on the board to visit the establishment and you will see that Mr. Dilva is still at the store on

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a full-time basis as he is still the owner. He has not transferred nor sold any stock or interest of any kind. He still has complete dominion and control over his business. Both the buyer and seller also have

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their own respective attorneys working on the sale for the business and buyer also obtains a liquor license attorney to ensure a smooth transfer of the liquor license. In addition to the liquor licensing,

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my area is also real estate. So, I do a lot of real estate closings and I find that all of the time I have clients and sellers that once we have a purchase and sale signed, realtors come with other offers, they're talking to their friends

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and they just say, "I sold my house and this comes up a lot all of the time and I have to remind them, especially when we're waiting for a mortgage commitment or something goes wrong. Technically, until that deed is on record at the

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registry of deeds, you haven't sold your house. Um, but they just they use those terms interchangeably and incorrectly. And attorneys are members of the board, we look at those and use the terms differently where some people when they

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say I sold the business and this is what has occurred here. Mr. D Silva has a signed purchase and sale that both parties are working toward the sale which you'll have and this will be the same copy that's going to be filed with the transfer of the application for the

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liquor license. It was clearly incorrect to state that it was sold. Both parties are here tonight to confirm that there has been no contemplated sale, no transfer of beneficial interest or ownership, and no unauthorized use of

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this license. They're actively working together in good faith to properly transfer all of the licenses as there's other licenses and permits that are also required and not just the liquor license um with the town, the licensing board and the ABCC.

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And we request that you not take any action of suspension or revocation. And all both parties are here seller and buyer happy to answer any questions or concerns. Do you have an anticipated closing date?

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So, from the um depending on the transfer, they've been actually waiting for the transfer. They've been working on a new license because I know that I'm sorry, the lease. The landlord wanted a new lease. So, they're just finalizing that because you need the lease for

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filing with the transfer of the application and they wanted to make sure that they could ensure that they had a lease before moving forward with anything else. So, they're just finalizing it should be um signing that this week and then they have everything

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else that they're putting together and gathering for the application that they're working on that attorney with to then file the application. So based on when they get it into you, when they can have the hearing with the board, I know ABCC is taking a lot longer right now

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these days to approve them, but so I'd say a few months, right? But they're right there at the end. What took so long was the negotiations and the lease with the landlord. >> It says under other terms

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have under other terms have to happen. >> Yes. And everything's contingent upon the sale, the liquor license, the lease, everything. It's all contingent upon each other. >> Mhm. >> Mhm. Okay. I appreciate the clarification and the documentation.

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Um I I don't actually have any questions unless the board does. I mean, I appreciate that you're both here. I think that does help. I don't know if you were here for the whole earlier >> discussion. So, >> Oh, we got it all. >> Oh, yeah. So, you had a nice demonstration. >> Enjoy it.

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>> That um this seems reasonable to me. It seems like you're doing what you're supposed to be doing in the right order. Um maybe misspoke at the board of health meeting. Maybe trying to avoid a violation on that. I totally understand. I understand. But this is sort of what happens, right? So, we just have to be

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careful. They um I do understand purchase and sale feels like sold. It's it's sort of pending sale, right? That's where we are. Um, I I think he's doing everything right. I have no reason to penalize either of them. >> So, >> I'm I'm fine with this. The fact that

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there hasn't been a closing yet. The fact that the uh bill of sales states that the bill of sales shall be deemed effective upon the transfer of the liquor license from seller to buyer. I I would say that I have no issues with it.

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Do you So, we do have because we've opened a hearing, we do have to allow public testimony, but did you want to add anything else before we do so? >> Uh, yes. So, um, just to add to this, um, >> sorry, if you could just state your name. >> My name is, uh, Celio Dilva, the current

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owner of Brazilian Point, and I've been in business for 10 and a half years, and we have a very good track record. I wouldn't say perfect, but we've been doing what we've had to do for all of these years. And um I would just like to

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thank everyone in the board and sorry for miscommunicating. And >> yeah, just that >> he's just ready. He's ready to go. He's ready to hand it over. He's ready. >> Just need more parking in front of the building. >> Yeah, but there's more parking out back.

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>> Parking out back. um back a few years ago uh when I was in this boardroom um speaking against a bunch of lawyers just by myself and all that that was the number one key factor was the parking and I was like listen guys I have more parking than all of my competitors that

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are in this room alto together and then um you guys granted us the the license but thank you very much once again >> I have no concern and is there anyone online or here in the room that wanted to speak on this.

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>> I move that we close the public hearing. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> I >> Okay. >> Thank you very much. >> Thank you. >> And then um is it safe to assume someone would like to make a motion to take no action?

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>> Do you want to offer a motion? >> Yep. Offer a motion for us. Thanks. I move to to take no action on the all alcohol license issued to Brazilian Point Incorporated uh for the term beginning on January 1, 2026 and ending December 31st, 2026.

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>> So moved. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> I >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> Best of luck to you. >> Thank you. >> I can't let you take it over. >> There's my family does go there. loving.

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>> Okay. >> All right. So, we got to go back. >> Y. >> Do you need me for anything else? >> I don't think so. Thank you so much. >> Thank you all. >> Thank you for your help. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. >> We're going to move back to number four,

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which is capital planning to present funding recommendations. So, in our warrant, that would be Oh gosh. And just be mindful, we may decide to reorganize the order of these things. But for now, for

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now it is article, where are we? Um 16, which falls on page 20 of our draft warrant. So if you guys

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want to get to that. >> Okay. Heath Ember, 214 Indian Pond Road, chairman of the capital planning committee. Thank you for having me here tonight. Nobody want to stay for capital planning? >> Nope. >> Not even Dave. >> So, um, >> this year has been a complex year for

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the capital planning committee and I'm hoping that the articles are a bit simpler. Uh, the first one I'm going to go over is article 16. Uh, the what I what I generally call the free cash motion. But we're purchasing or moving to recommend that recommend that the uh

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town meeting agreed to purchase uh capital equipment with free cash. Uh just to backtrack a little bit um this year I think we had including advisory votes but not including the water department's capital. We had I think it was around $2.2 million worth of

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requests that included $250,000 for a recreation project at Grace Beach that we supported unanimously. Um, our budget out of that, however, not including uh some of the debt financing was just under $614,000,

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which has been comparably comparatively low compared to recent years. Ultimately, we unanimously uh recommended um a $64,000 budget for capital this year,

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leaving about 1.1 million unfunded, not including a few projects that were either withdrawn or that um wind up getting another funding source. So, six projects. I'm just going to read off the name of the project. Essentially, uh you should have the prices in front of you, the costs. Uh

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we're going to we're hoping to replace the roof at the uh fire station headquarters, replace three uh cardiac compression units, and replace one cardiac monitor for the fire department. Uh this came to us as kind of an emergency item. They are emergency

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medical equipment and due to new rules and best practices and such, they are now deemed to be expired in a planned obsolescence way. uh the equipment that we had um past inspection, but for liability reasons,

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we need to begin replacing it. And so this year, we're doing that. You'll also see AEDs on the equipment article. That's also part of this group, but it fell below capital uh the capital threshold. Um three, we're going to replace three police vehicles.

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Uh one very powerful tractor for it's a bit of an upgrade for KISS and KES. It'll handle a lot of their field work, including mowing, but it's also uh much stronger than the prior tractor, which is at the end of its service life at pushing snow, plowing snow on the

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sidewalks and parking lots. Was a real problem this year during the the big storm. Um the equipment that they had could not move the snow and the workers actually had to get out and shovel, which we don't want. We want them using machines to do the work. So, we're replacing that um dying tractor. Uh

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lastly, there is a replacement um highway superintendent vehicle. Any questions about this section? >> I just have one question. The um three police vehicles, are they patrol vehicles primarily? >> Two patrol vehicles, one detective vehicle. >> Okay, perfect.

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>> The detective vehicle um will not have an upfit, which all the police accessories, it should be something the public wouldn't recognize. So, I don't want to get into too much detail. >> No, that's okay. I just was curious for a vote. Thank you. Yep. >> Is there a reason it's listed as three

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police vehicles and not detailed as two and one? >> No. >> I was just thinking I I wasn't sure if it was because of flexibility because ordering and sometimes things >> Well, I I asked for it to be I sent a message to the town administrator about vehicles because if at the time they go

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to purchase the Taho they're looking for and the Taho aren't available, they could get Ford F-150s like town of Plimpmpton uses. So, we just wanted that I wanted that flexibility built in that they didn't have to be within the SUV shape of vehicle, whatever vehicle was

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um deemed appropriate that they could source that if they needed to. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Any other questions on that section? >> Thank you. >> Just real quick, the tractor is pretty it's been years. I can't remember the last time. >> The the current one's a John Deere. The

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new one if it passes will be at Fentrak. They have it at the middle school. >> Yeah. So, we've already kind of, you know, the facilities director's already put it through a sort of test of what it can do over there. Now, he wants it at those two schools, but >> we haven't had snow in like 5 years. So, that's probably one of the reason I'm sorry, >> we haven't had snow in five years. It's

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probably why I went to >> How old is the fire station that we're replacing the roof? >> I believe it was a 20-year roof. >> 1999. >> The fire chief said 1999. >> Yeah. 1999. Okay. >> Good year. Anything

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else? >> All right, moving Okay, >> moving on to article 17. We have an article to replace um ambulance 3. It's approaching the end of its service life. Um the service life of an ambulance is about 10 years. In the past, if you

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remember me being up here, we've brought up um ambulance refer refurb and remount uh which is to extend the the life of an ambulance. Uh we've had some problems with that. the ambulances we've received, as the fire chief informed me, had some um some difficulties in the

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workmanship and there's been some changes to the workforce at the shop that does the work. Additionally, um a company has or will buy them soon and potentially consolidate locations under another place where they're not experienced at doing this work. So,

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there's not a lot of belief that we can avoid any risk by continuing to go there. It's only going to potentially get worse. So, we're we're looking to replace the ambulance this time. >> So, sorry, just to be clear, is that article the separate article article 17? Okay. So, that's page 22 in the

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>> I believe they're using debt financing. Uh but we weren't certain if it was going to be a new lease or a bond at the time that we did that. >> At this point, we're at this point the um the plan is to borrow from the vehicle.

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>> Okay. Uh the ambulances, as I understand it, the average per year and ride fee revenues is about $1.7 million. The police can correct me. I mean, sorry, the fire chief can correct me if I'm wrong. Um

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the ambulance, that means with three ambulances, we're doing about an average per ambulance at $567,000. That revenue goes to the general fund. Over the service life of an ambulance, that would be about 5.7 million. The price for this ambulance is right around 640,000, but we have built in a

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substantial contingency because the prices on equipment and vehicles is crazy these days to put it simply. And this ambulance will go to auction. >> Any questions on the new ambulance? It's >> going to take two years to get it.

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I never like ordering them so early, but I've been beaten down in the last two years concerning that. So, I will give in. >> I was just going to say it's probably going to be >> I still don't know. >> It's probably going to be about two years from the factory. Would you say it's correct, Chief? >> At some point in 2028.

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>> 2028. >> Okay. >> Okay. >> And I assume that if we don't have enough ambulances and we rely on mutual aid, all that ride revenue goes to the other town. >> Yeah. All right, moving on to the emotion for the leases.

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We have a number of leases this year that we're paying uh some some of them are just paying the third year of a 5-year lease. A lease, just to tell everybody who doesn't know, is basically it's not like a leasing a car where at the end of lease you return the vehicle. Uh this capital is basically just a

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financing program. Uh some notable ones I want to mention is that we are paying we're making the last two years payments on the um fire department's ladder truck. Uh we're using that we're using money that was

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has been held in escrow from some developers that wanted to or that agreed to um help finance the purchase of that truck. Is there any way that we can consolidate these like we do with other things? Because being that it's the leases, I we

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have to pay these. I know that we want to separate it out like 7 to >> That's a question for for town council. Kate Federoff had mentioned that it's something that could potentially go in some other area of the warrant >> that it wouldn't necessarily need to be a capital planning. >> Um >> well, as you say, and we say like it's

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leases, we have to pay them, >> right? the original motion to start the lease and decide we want the equipment should definitely be >> and I think we need a we need a way that the capital planning committee is monitoring it >> because I don't want them just piling up new leases and not thinking about what's

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already on the books. >> Well, I think it's important to see what we have but it's also like >> it's like we have to pay them kind of thing. I feel like I don't want people to be like in number eight I don't think we need to pay that. It's like, okay, cuz sometimes, >> well, we'll have to just pull it from somewhere else if that happens, >> right? Because it's like people I'm always kind of like when we do this,

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it's like, you have to pay these. So, I I like that you put them all together, but it's almost like we have to pay this because they are least and we can't just let them go. So, I don't people >> I think it passes unanimously most years. So, I think we'll be okay. And luckily, he doesn't have to read the whole thing because the motion is just as printed. One year we were getting

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aggressive and we were going to put the leases in the operating budget, which is where they probably belong, but um >> I hear you. >> What it does to the operating budget is a problem. So that's why it stay >> Well, I was going to get on to say is

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that we pay off the um ladder truck a year early, so we'll save some interest costs there. We're making the final payment on um fire engine one this year. next year. There's two trucks. Uh the remounts for ambulances one and two. Looks like we have a backhoe loader or

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loader backhoe being paid off. Um I think that's this year. Um so we're going to go be at I think it's just over $800,000 this year, but within two or three years the if we don't add anything else to the leases, it would be

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over 300,000 but not exceeding 400,000 for a few years. Now, the one of the main funders of capital stabilization is the meals tax, which on average, last time I checked, a few years ago, excuse me, was $450,000 per year. So, we could actually be acrewing some money if we

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can keep the leases down for a few years. We're going to need that because um it would have been this year or next year, we would have been replacing the highway department's factory truck, which is a substantially expensive truck. um they've decided they they're going to get some more years out of it, but when it when it does actually come

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up now, it's going to probably be between a 900,000 a million dollar truck. So, we're going to need capital stabilization to help with that. >> I think that's all I've got. Are there any other questions? Any particular items? No.

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>> No. >> In general, I'll make the same comment I've made for a few years now. This is probably at least the third or fourth year in a row that we've expended about a million and a half to two million on capital. I don't believe that is

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sustainable going forward. And um it's just you know what what I believe that you know we have to find ways of you know being able to say no more often on capital. Well, we said we said no to

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about 1.1 that was asking for free cash and gave out just about 600,000. So, I think we did pretty well just really narrowing it down. I would say though really the what the town needs to do. Carl's point is it's not it's not financially sustainable.

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>> Mhm. >> To not do it is not operationally s sustainable. We will lose operations. We will have less trucks to move snow during storms, less ambulances to make medical calls. we will have less equipment to do everything that we already expect the town to do level

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services. The solution is not to we certainly we've been focusing on replacement capital and repair almost the entire time I've been on the committee. It's just been replacing existing capital and not all of the replacement capital prioritizing what we

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needed to replace the most. We need another source for capital stabilization to fund it. The town needs to come up with a way. Carl had mentioned, I know he's mentioned this a few times, when they brought the uh cannabis dispensary to town that maybe the taxes from that would feed into capital stabilization.

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Um I've played around with the idea of maybe putting the ambulance ride revenues in there. The ambulances cannot rely on themselves. They go out with an engine, they go out with police, they go out on our roads. It's all maintained with equipment, but that would take it from the general fund and that would be too much of a pinch to do it one time

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without having to do an override. So I would be interested in the selectman, the town administrator, everybody else who's involved is to talk to town council and say what's appropriate to use where you can direct deposit as a funding source to the town into capital

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stabilization. What's legal under the general laws of Massachusetts? And then among those, what are our opportunities to do that? There was at one point a um an article to uh allocate the billboard revenues

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for the new billboard that will be going in soon probably um toward capital. It never ended up getting moved at town meeting, but it was a discussion. So there those are that's another option as well. >> We need another we definitely need we

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definitely need some other funding. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Great. Thank you. questions? >> No. >> Okay. All right. >> Thank you. >> Do we want to just vote that article right now?

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>> Move favor roll action on the fiscal year 27 capital equipment project funding. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> I go. >> Okay. >> And he's moving it so we don't have to decide that.

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>> Okay. Okay. back to where were we? Oh boy. Um, okay. So, we have a transfer of a motor vehicle class 2 license, 41 Liberty Auto, one is it 175 Summer

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Street. Okay. Um, okay. So, Liberty Auto received its license in 2018. At that time, the business was placed in Richard Strusier's name. Todd Logan, who has always been a part of the business, is now taking over completely. We received all the paperwork for the transfer and

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all the department heads have signed off. Um, and just as a reminder, class 2 licenses are renewed yearly. Unless there are any questions or objections, I'll entertain a motion. >> I move the board of stockman approve the transfer of license of 41 Liberty Auto to Todd Logan effective immediately

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through January 1st, 2027. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Okay. So, it's 500 Z. Okay. And moving on to renewal of razor clam licenses and regulations. Um there were no changes. I

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spoke with our um shelfish constable earlier and um there were no recommended changes to the regulations. But annually our board reviews the allocated razor clam licenses. They are awarded to people who've had one the previous year unless they no longer are interested in

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holding one. The um shellfish constable is recommending the fee remain the same at $300 with no change as I mentioned on the um regulations and the list of license holders is unchanged. Any questions or concerns?

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>> Do we have to name all the license holders in the motion or no? >> Um >> no. Okay. >> I don't believe so. you can say um instead of saying of the following individuals, you can say of the individuals listed in the agenda.

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>> Okay. >> I move the board of selectmen accept the renewal of the Razor Clam licenses um as noted in the agenda of the nine license holders um for the term of July 1st, 2026 through June 30th, 2027 and

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set the license fee at 300. Second. >> All those in favor? >> I I >> Okay, so that was unanimous. >> All right, this is Miss Carl. >> Moving, moving, moving, moving. Okay, so now we have I think we're on additional items.

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So, we have some appointments um that need a board of selectman representative. So, so it's this is interesting. So we have members of some of these committees already, but I think they're serving in different capacities. So I think we need different

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representatives. So if you already serve, for example, on the 300th committee as maybe a recreation >> appointment, >> but I will say this, if you needed to do it here, my son's also on it. He was just >> So you could shuffle is what you're

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saying. >> Shuffle. >> We can shuffle >> 100%. >> Okay. >> One. So his this his son could be the recreation sorry his son could be the recreation rep and we could shuffle him to the selectment rep because then you're holding two.

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>> So could we we can actually make that appointment right now too for both of them >> technically. Why not recreation? >> Yeah. >> Oh do they they vote it? Okay. >> Y >> say yay. >> So >> almost try to do it separately.

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>> Okay. Okay. So, Joe is willing to serve as the Kingston 300 as a border selectman >> representative. >> Yep. >> Okay. And then >> I will continue to serve as the agricultural commission.

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>> I spoke with the um chair of that and we'll continue that. >> Okay. >> Relationship. >> And Sheila, you're currently serving on the affordable housing trust. I thought you were the board of selectman representative. I was afraid when I was on the board of selectman and then I

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stayed on and I became the citiz the affordable the I I um I stayed on as a citizen. >> Okay. >> And so I I told Jean that I I put in whatever happened so I'd stay on the board no matter what. >> Okay.

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>> So I said I would put in for the board of selectman but if you feel as though because then we just have to get somebody as a citizen. My personal preference would be that you serve on behalf of this board since there's limited and any any citizen can serve in that position. So if we could >> because I already go so I think and I

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already know it so I think it'd be great. Yeah. I'm not >> so pretty much no changes for anybody. Okay. >> Awesome. >> All right. So does someone want to make those motions? >> I move the board of Slackman appoint Joseph Cunningham >> Junior. >> Junior. Thank you. It took me a minute to the Kingston 300th committee until

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the duration of the events. >> I I can't do that one. Okay. You want the secondary? >> Second. Okay. >> All those in favor? >> I I >> Perfect. Um I move the board selectment appoint Missy Baitment to the

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Agricultural Commission until June 30th, 2027. >> Second. >> All right. All those in favor? I >> I >> Okay. I move the board of Slackman appoint Sheila to the affordable housing committee until June 30th, 2027. Sorry,

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Sheila Vaughn. to the affordable housing committee until June 30th, 2027. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Okay. I feel like Carl and I got out of that one easy, huh? >> All right. >> Because I already serve. It's easy to stay. Okay.

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>> It's already on my schedule. >> Okay. So, next item. I had actually brought up meeting scheduling. So we have traditionally met every other Tuesday which can be challenging when you have other events happening because oftentimes they'll be the first Tuesday

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or the third Tuesday and we sometimes it's the first sometimes it's the second and it varies. So I had asked if it would be put on the agenda for us to consider either having a regular schedule of the first and third or the second and fourth. Now I don't know what that does to the other meetings that use

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this room but I just at least wanted to bring No, it's fine. Okay. Bring it forth for discussion because it would make my life personally easier and it would be easier for me to explain to people when we're meeting if it was more consistent schedule. >> Sounds good to me. >> Any preference between first and third

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or second and fourth? >> Give me one second. >> Um I think >> other than national night out I know >> Tuesdays are fine because Mondays is when my other Mondays and Thursdays are when my other committees meet. >> Wait, are you on another committee? >> I'm on my couple. I know. I know. Yes. I

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I haven't brought up the actual name of the school committee. There you go. School committee. There you go. My first meeting. >> Yeah. So, school committee is Mondays and then I have other meetings on Thursdays. So, Tuesdays work for me. Either one, >> but I'll wait for you guys to know. >> Okay. >> I know um open space meets the first Tuesday of the month, but I don't know

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other schedule. >> The the only conflict would be the um music nights for the the wreck, but >> when do those fall? >> I can figure that out. >> Uh not consistently. They're always on a Tuesday and they're not consistent for the first, third, second, or for I just

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looked so it won't matter either way. >> Okay. >> It might have to be a Zoom meeting for me. >> That's all. >> All right. So then I would propose the second and fourth knowing that we have

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to move occasionally. We'll have to rearrange them anyway. >> Yep. >> Does that work? Yep. >> Okay. So I move the board selectman change the meeting schedule to the second and fourth Tuesday of every month. >> Second. >> Um all those in favor?

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>> I I >> Okay. >> And then you wanted to talk about potentially a summer schedule. You said something about a summer schedule at some point like maybe less meetings or >> Yeah. I think um it's not unusual just in

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>> the communities I were in was in the past um unless it was necessary to meet in August, they typically would not meet in August. And um and same thing with July. We would probably meet once in July. >> Okay. >> And certainly we'll work that around some schedules. The finance director and

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I will probably have to work out for um transfers or anything like that. But that's what I I would recommend. Of course, if something comes up um and there is a need for a meeting, then we could always meet when as necessary.

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>> Okay. >> So, we'll just keep it as is now and then we'll approach it when we get >> Yeah, I think set the schedule in June. will look at that and say, "Okay, this is the date that we should probably meet in July and then >> okay, >> maybe pick once." And then same thing

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for August. If there's nothing pressing that we absolutely have to take care of, um I would recommend take August off. >> Um if there's a license or something, then we would probably meet just to make sure we got that through with something quick. >> Yep. Okay.

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>> Okay. So, next um adding an additional signer for the weekly warrant. So um pursuant with Mass General Law Chapter 41 section 52 um in the absence of the member designated by the board which the chair um we just need to designate someone

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else to be another signer. So if for whatever reason I'm unavailable, someone can come and sign for the warrant and not have three people have to come in. And yes, we have to physically sign it. >> You can't do an electronic signature, huh? >> No, we've been trying. I' I've been asking since I started. >> I have an electronic signature. I would

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love to use it. I said you can buy a house with on PDF Designer, but we can't do this. >> I'm happy to do it. I'm usually around, so I can I'm happy to do it if you guys want. >> I was gonna say my schedule. >> I can come in early or late anyway. So, >> yeah, usually it would be on um Thursday

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afternoon. That's usually when I kind of >> Well, when you can't, you just tell me. >> Okay. All right. You ready? >> Sounds good. >> I move to add Sheila Von as an additional signer of the weekly warrant in the event that the chair is unable to do so. I speak for >> second.

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>> Joe, did you second that? >> He did. >> I love it. >> All those in favor? >> I >> I >> love it, Joe. >> Not that other people aren't taking notes, but I was. >> Okay, so we have a um

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>> some pool table licenses, it looks like. So we have let's see both Dehaney Tenpin and Alleycat Lane looking for their renewals and we have everything we need. Oh and Hilltop as

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well >> has a renewal. We have everything we need. So um we were waiting on one thing but now we are all set there. So unless anyone has questions this is for is it Danei Dhanei? I'm not sure how you pronounce that. 10pin Inc. 16 bowling

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lanes, um, Dehaney Alleycat Lane, Inc., 26 bowling alleys, and Hilltop AA, two pool tables. >> I move the board of stockman approve the annual licenses as printed in the Munich packet. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I

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>> Now he's letting you have it. >> Okay. All right. So we have next we have a um a letter for our review and comment from the Massachusetts State Lottery Commission for the Irish Grosser. So per the letter from the state lottery um it is offering

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a kino monitor to existing um existing Kino to go agents in Kingston which will display the game at their location. So the location of the Irish Grocerer is in in the mall. So that's the um Kingston collection way D118.

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So essentially we're just considering whether we have any objections and if we do we need to provide them in writing. We don't need a motion. It's just we need to talk about it. I have no objections. >> Don't they already have one in there? It says additional. Do they already have

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one? >> It says it's to add add it sounded like >> to go. Okay. >> I think that there was one in the old food court. It's not there anymore. This is a different place. >> So, it's like a different business but in the same

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>> I don't have an objection. >> Neither do I. >> Nobody. >> Fine with me. >> All right. >> Moving right along then. So, we are being asked to make an appointment of a part-time administrative assistant in the wastewater department. So, this is a

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new position. Is that correct? >> Yes. >> Okay. but was funded under the funded fiscal year 2016. >> So after the recruitment process, Superintendent David Walsh is recommending the hiring of Dorene Tio Dor Teod Dorson. I'm so sorry. I'm

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first meeting. >> Oh, yep. Go ahead, Sheila. ing. I move to appoint Doren to Dorilson to the position of administrative assistant a part-time grade 2 step three non-exempt position within the KTU clerico with a with the wastewater department when

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anticipates start date of May 26, 2026 contingent with the terms in the opera letter. >> Second. All those in favor? >> I >> and welcome. Okay, so we have an appointment for a building commissioner. Is there anything

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you want to say about? >> So, don't get up. This is a um this gentleman uh Mr. Richards is a retired building commissioner, spent 30 years in the town of Weimoth. Um he will be here

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and he's actually um has been here um helping out getting things sort of straightened out down in the building department. He's going to help us get the online permitting up and running and working properly. >> Great. And um we do also we have another

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part-time uh building local inspector who's been here long before I got here. Um so we do have um in in the intention is to bring on uh a gentleman from who's applied. Uh his name's Joe Walsh. He's out of Dougbury. He has not taken all

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his exams yet. So uh Mr. Richard will be bringing him along and helping him uh get acquainted to our zoning, what it's like to do zoning and uh what it's like to be a building commissioner. >> Okay. So, this is an interim. >> It's a it'll be probably a one year.

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>> Okay. >> Uh part-time. Yeah. >> I'm just excited they're going to do online. >> Yeah. the and and you know from what I'm told uh Valerie and the uh other departments that are involved have already got that actually all ready to

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go. So I think that it should be a quick turnaround. >> Great. >> Excuse me, Miss Embo. >> Yes. Will >> may I just ask a question about the building commissioner?

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>> Sure. >> Okay. I don't know if it's possible but once we have a board of commission on disability all built up and all together can we

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have a easier communication between these the commission and the building inspector's office. >> Absolutely. >> Okay. I think that might help%. Thank you. >> Thank you. Well,

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>> also, Mr. Tucker, I'll email you. >> Okay. So, look for that. All right. So, any questions or concerns on this appointment? Okay. >> I move the board of Slackman appoint Jeffrey Richards as the building commissioner and authorize the town administrator to negotiate and execute

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an annual employment agreement. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I I >> Okay, that was 500. And we have an appointment of the sealer of weights and measures. So there's an upcoming retirement. So that position will be

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vacant. And after the recruitment process, our town administrator is recommending the appointment of William Mullen. >> Yeah. And for the board's information, um, Mr. Mullen has been a, uh, sealer of weights and measures. He was in the town

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of Abington. He also works for Northfor County as their sailor of weights and measures. So, it'll be a very seamless transition. >> And is this a re order of magnitude cost of $10,000 a year? >> It's similar to the prior one.

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>> It was a $10,000 uh stipen for the um gentleman that is now retiring where this is is a uh a new um person taking the position. It's actually $8,000. Okay, I'll do it. I'm with the board

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appoint men as the sailor of weights and measures in annually appointed position schedule C2 step in position effective July 1st, 2026 through June 30th, 2027 contingent with the terms of the opera letter. >> Second. All those in favor? >> I.

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>> Perfect. And we have a volunteer application that was received by Miss Cunningham for um to serve on the Kingston Educational Fund trustees. And the trustees did recommend the appointment of Andrea

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Cunningham. >> I move the board of selemen appoint Andrea Cunningham to the Kingston Educational Fund trustees effective immediately through June 30th of 2029. >> Second. >> All those in favor? I >> I have to stand right.

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>> Um you don't technically because you have no financial interest in her serving as a educational trustee. >> Just her time. >> 500. Okay. >> That is your understanding as well, right? Yes. But there's no financial interest. Okay. Yeah.

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>> Okay. So, we have um a financial assistance application. Oh, it does not need to be addressed. Never mind. We will pass right over that one. Um let's see. We have next um consent to allow refinance the uh the point apartments.

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So as part of their regulatory agreement approval from the board um hold on a second as part of the regulatory agreement. Oh this is PPK investors LLC. So as part of their regulatory agreement approval from the board is required in order to refinance that property. Is

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that because it's an affordable housing? >> It was Yeah. So it was part of their when it was proposed as an affordable housing project. I see that makes sense. >> Okay. I have no problem refinance but allowing them to refinance. >> I move the board of Sluckman consents to

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the mortgage of the property here and the town of Kingston consents to the exercise of remedies under the mortgage including the remedy of foreclosure or the remedy of taking title to the property by dean in lie of foreclosure. >> Second. >> All those in favor? I

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>> I. >> Okay. We have some donations. Um, we have a donation for streets, trees, and parks and we have one for the COA. Make those motions. >> I move the board of selectmen accept the

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following donations. Donation of five yards of mulch from the no fee landscape supplies to mulch the townhouse in preparation of Memorial Day. $50 donation to the Council on Aging from Allan and Joan Minnelli in memory of

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Gordon Leighton. >> Second. Sorry. All those in favor? >> I thank you for those donations. >> Sorry, Joe. >> Okay, so we're going to talk about the budget. Um yeah, and actually I would like to say um on those donations in the

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work of our um highway staff and everybody else in the memorial committee and all the people who work townhouse looks amazing. They did a great job >> and the cub scouts and the boy scouts are cleaning some of the memorials around town too. >> Thanks to all those involved. Um I think

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we all very proud of what they did. So and then going on to the the actual budget portion. I don't think there's really been any changes since last time we've met on the um until we get into the Warren article. I think that there's um you know there's ongoing

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um massaging of the budget at this point as things do come in. Um it is very uh fluid. We're cleaning things up and um you know as as as we go through the process different things sort of come up

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that may have been in there that we find that um we don't have to keep in the budget or things that aren't in the budget that we have to add in. So right now we are still balanced there. Um the latest state aid numbers haven't been

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incorporated, but we may take the um average of what has been put out in front of us and incorporate those numbers. But, uh, right now we're sort of flat as far as our levy goes. Um, or our levies, you know, excess levy, which

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we would like to see that get a little bit better, but um, again, there's no changes on that since last we met or nothing substantial. But you'll see once we get into you know the actual budget article um I think we did make a you know that's

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where we can sort of discuss what that overall number is which is >> $63,692 6923 $330. Couple of general comments that I'd make is number one, I think that the town

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departments, the finance committee, town administration have done a good job in getting us to this budget in a difficult year uh where we're not going to be going for a two and a half override like

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most towns around here. Um Halifax and who else last? Pemroke both voted down overrights last Saturday. >> I believe Whitman did too. >> Whitman. Okay. Um, a couple of things that I would like to point out though is

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that the state aid, we often hear people talking about how bad the state aid is or how we don't get this, we don't get that. Well, in the last two years, state aid for Kingston has been increased by about 800k >> and that's gone into the operating

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budget. Um the other thing is um local receipts. I agree 100% with the number that's in here for local receipts. However, what we've been forced to do or what the administration been forced to

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do is come up with what I would call a much more reasonable local receipts number which is closer to what it's really going to be that we don't have the builtin half a million dollar reserve

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that we've had in there in prior years. So that these are just a couple of examples of how we town has managed to get to the point to present a budget to town meeting that is balanced without

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the need for a two and a half override. Um it doesn't have some of the additional things in it that I'm sure the police department and fire department would love to have. Um the schools came in at very reasonable uh

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numbers. The Silver Lake assessment uh the Silver Lake budget bottom line was only increased by 2 and a half%. Our assessment is a little bit higher than that because of the uh ratio of students between the three among the three towns.

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The local school budget came in at something a little over 3%. So that's good. So all in all, you know, when you dig into this budget in a little detail, I I think it's a good budget that the town should be able to live with and the

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residents, the departments, etc. >> Thanks, Carl. >> So, next is the warrant. Welcome, Joe. >> Can I ask a quick question? because we have a new moderator, will you be sitting down with with that

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person to maybe do a consent agenda for Tom reading? >> So, in the past, I've sent a draft to Sean saying, "Here are the articles I think could go in a consent agenda and then the prior moderator and then he would work with council to figure out which things made

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sense and he would sometimes pull some out that he thought would be contentious." Okay. I'm happy to do the same thing for Michael and say, "Here are the ones." I actually I think I gave Scott a draft of what I think could be included in a consent agenda. Things like transfer to the employee liability

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reserve fund, transfer to OPED, transfer to capital stabilization, these types of things that tend to not be debated. One of the things that I also suggested um to Scott and I know these are not in the order they will be in but putting the prior year's bills and anything we need

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to fix per se for this year at the beginning then the consent agenda al together >> y >> and then move to the budgetary articles the things that we really need to get through >> then through any of the bylaws things and any of those other pieces and then the citizen petitions at the end. >> Love it.

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>> That's typically the way we've done it. So, that was I sent a draft um to Scott earlier today just for consideration for the order um administratively. Um and I'm we can talk through that too if people want to. There's some of these that sound like they're coming off potentially too. There's like the uh

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wage and personnel bylaw has a strike through to it. >> Yeah, I've not received anything from them now. I don't know that it's just maybe they haven't gotten it to me. >> Okay. >> But um so Tina is trying to track that down. So yeah, it is possible one or two things could come out. Um

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>> we can do a consent agenda for articles 1 through 40 if you like. >> I don't think town meeting will go for that but >> consent agenda things. >> Um so I think my suggestion would be that we if we are comfortable voting some of these where we feel we are now

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maybe we don't refer to them by the article number but just the name and then that way we can rearrange the order potentially. I don't know if anyone has strong feelings if I work with Scott to reorganize the order. Do you guys care if we do that outside this? >> I do not mind. >> Nobody cares about that. >> We don't have a concern.

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>> Okay. It's not going to change any of the votes. So, okay. So, we'll figure that piece out, but if we could get through some of the votes, at least then we know where people stand and who's going to present them >> without article numbers. So, that >> Withoutic numbers. Exactly. Yes. >> Yep. >> So, um first article prior year bills. I

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had asked, do you happen to know what this is for? I know it's only $4,000, but the Kingston Intermediate School had outstanding invoices. >> It's okay if we don't know right now, but we may want to add it in. >> I do actually have copies of the invoices, so I will >> I think it would just be helpful to say

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like for whatever it is. >> It's probably the new the new business person. I forget her name. >> So, like a salary adjustment. Yeah. >> No, it wasn't. These are just prior year bills. There was a vendor that wasn't made and I do have copies of them. It was It might have been like a landscaping company. I mean, I'm I'm

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fine with it. I'm not worried about it. Yeah, if we add that in. >> It was legit and they just came in by >> Any other questions or concerns or a motion? So, the the motions we typically do, Go ahead. >> That's going to be free cash, I assume.

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>> It says free cash in the the the summary. It just needs to be added in. >> Uh oh. On the Yes, the index. >> Don't look at the table of contents yet because that there's a lot of things that need to be updated there. I spent 3 hours looking at the table.

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>> Don't look at the table of contents once we update it. >> That's the worst part. >> That's the last thing we have to do though once we get it all organized. So then we can update the table of contents. >> I mean Google Docs is great. >> Um okay. So any objections any So it's So if we

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could just for the minutes makes it easier for Trisha's life. If one person says move favorable action on and then the article and then the same person seconds it just makes it a lot easier. >> Okay. Move in favor favorable action that the sum of three >> I'm sorry just say on prior years bills.

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>> Oh, you want me to do the whole thing? Just >> this up. Okay. >> Yep. >> Maybe I shouldn't do it. >> Move favorable action for prior year's bills. >> There you go. >> Done. >> Trisha, is that going to make your life easier?

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>> Who's going to be the second? Carl's going to be the >> second car all night. >> All right. Missing a car all night. All those in favor? I >> I >> Okay. Now, who wants to move the article at town meeting and present it? Missy can't. I will not be. >> It says school committee. So, I don't know. >> Oh, is it going to be school committee?

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Never mind then. >> I think new business >> 11. >> Okay. So, waste water department enterprise fund budget surplus revenue appropriations. This seemed like approximately their normal >> article that they do every year. The

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only question I had was in the language of the motion. It says 300,000 comes from the quote tax levy. And I just thought that was interesting. I had I don't remember seeing that before. So that was my only concern. But the motion >> I would defer to the finance director on

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that. >> I I believe that's the Isn't that the item on your summary income statement? >> Could be. >> Um >> I can speak to that if you'd like. >> Oh, they can. Oh, there she is.

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>> Hello. Well, let me turn my video on. Hold on one second. >> Oh, I'm in the dark. Um, so it's the one-third debt on the leeching field and the one-third debt on the original loan.

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>> When you say original loan, what does that mean? So I think it was 2011 or 2012 um for the wastewater we uh they got a a loan and the town

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agreed that general fund would pay for onethird of it. >> Okay. And that was not the one time thing we did last year. That's different. >> It's a combination of the two of them I believe. >> Correct. interesting

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>> that that we always had the one from day one which was order of magnitude hundred plus thousand dollars and then last year they added in this for the um

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leeching fields. >> Okay, >> there was a special article last year. I thought last year was the original debt to help them supplement their budget because they didn't have enough to pay and then we'd always been paying for the leeching field from when they first like two years ago or whatever

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when we >> said yes to that. >> That's fine. I can't remember. >> I'm the only one with an objection. I'm totally fine with that. >> Okay. All right. Oh, and capital planning doesn't need to vote on that, right? Because there's no capital expenditure. Don't think like

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they don't have any >> they didn't have any capital in it this time >> committee and go. >> Nope. Okay. >> You're up missing. Okay. Say move favorable action. >> Before we go forward, I'm trying to keep up here.

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>> Okay. Um the paragraph that >> the end further what you're looking at it the middle paragraph and further to see if the town will vote to transfer from weights water retain pained earnings.

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>> Mhm. >> That's not in the motion. It I don't think >> you're right. >> Oh, yeah. >> That that you have that needs to get into the motion somehow. >> Oh, well, it says as printed in the warrant. I don't know if that's sufficient. >> Okay.

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>> Further, >> I I think if you look at last year, it's a separate item within the motion. >> Okay. And we'll have we can have Elaine look at it too to make sure that it is what they expected to say to >> Yeah, I know.

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>> They've been working. >> Perfect. >> All right, we'll look at that motion. >> All right. >> Okay. Move favor favorable action for the FY27 wastewater department enterprise fund budget and surplus revenue appropriations.

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>> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I I >> I >> nay. So 410. Okay. Article three for now. Fiscal year 27 general fund operating budget.

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We've looked at the budget binder. I'm sorry Joe and Sheila. You haven't had the detailed department budgets, but the finance committee has supported this budget thus far. Okay. and I've gone to many of my meetings

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online. >> Yes. >> Okay. >> Okay. Move favorable action for the FY27 general fund operating budget. >> Second. >> All right. You paused. Did you want to talk about it at all?

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>> Well, I have a lot of notes here, but it may be better to just get with Scott afterwards. >> Okay. uh on on some of the things that are either missing or >> from the motions themselves

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>> from the packet. I think you >> from the well like for instance I we've got the listed the the same items here twice. We don't need to have the budget listed twice. So I think correct me if I'm wrong that

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the warrant itself includes the top part up to the description and then the motion is what the person at town meeting reads. >> Correct. >> So the warrant technically doesn't have that repeated. But I guess the question I would have and it's probably a question for Kate is can we just say as

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printed in the warrant as opposed to putting the numbers twice? What I did was try to go back to the last two years warrants and compare it and said if we didn't have that last year, do we need it now? >> Yeah. >> And and the other item is

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the $290,000 >> needs to be put into the uh motion. I believe >> $290 >> to the from a closed article. >> Yep. Okay,

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we will check on that >> and then it will add up to what it's supposed to add up to. >> Okay. All right. Anything else? >> Um, no. I think the others been put in. I'm okay with those.

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>> And I'm going to say it again. I think this is not sustainable. I've said this for the last three years though. This is not sustainable and we are out of room. So, we either need to figure out new growth somehow or we're going to be talking about an override.

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>> $10 million is employment insurance. >> So, I know it's a lot. Okay. So, we have a motion and a second. Any other commentary questions? No. Okay. All those in favor? Hi. >> Hi. >> Okay. Um

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>> All right. So, water department enterprise fund. Um this is their typical article. I don't I don't I didn't have any major changes in this. I didn't see anything minor

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like formatting things, but I don't >> What? >> Carl, you got anything here that we need to make sure we >> We Now we're saying 2,754. >> Yes. 2754704.

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I think that's what this says. Hold on. missing that. >> But the >> I believe that that number should be the 2237414. >> I see that too >> because the rest has already been appropriated in the budget

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>> somewhere. >> The 517,000 has been appropriated in the budget. >> I see. So they're trying to show you the total cost of the water department, but it actually ends up just being confusing. >> Right. Well, and the the total is

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is okay if it wasn't 22. It should be just 2754704 >> the total in the column. >> But in the um to see if the town will vote and raise from available funds in the treasury borrowers sum up >> two. Yeah,

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>> I think that should only be the 2237414. >> Yep. I think you're right. Good. The motion has that right though. >> Mhm. >> Yep. That makes sense. >> Okay. Yeah, the motion. >> Um, I just want to say in all past years, the total is in the top part in

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the description, but the motion always has the lower number without the indirect cost. >> Huh. Okay. >> Maybe we changed it last year then in era.

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>> All right. Good. I'm good. Everybody good? >> I'm fine with whatever Carol and Scott decide on that item. >> Okay. Okay. Move favorable action for the FY27 Water Department Enterprise Fund budget and retained earnings

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appropriations. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> I. >> All right. Here's 500. Water department well cleaning. This is actually one that I've suggested that I will suggest to him potentially for the

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consent agenda. We do this regularly enough that I don't think it'll have much debate, but anyone can always pull an article out of the consent agenda if they don't like it. >> Yep. Any concerns or thoughts. >> Okay.

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>> Good. Move favorable action for the water department well cleaning. >> Second. >> All those in favor? I >> I >> All right, sounds like 5 Z to me. Okay, so replenish prior year special

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articles. So this is an issue with the water department budget that was approved in fiscal year 25. Is that right? Okay, >> that's correct. >> Okay, >> I don't have any issue with this one.

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>> Okay. Okay. All right. Move favorable action for replenishing prior year special articles. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> I. >> And should this be water? >> Yes.

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>> Yeah. >> Yeah, we can ask them. They probably give your opinion. All right. Water tank maintenance. >> This is another one I think is straightforward. I don't have any problems with it. No, I I'm tempted to put it in suggest it in the consent agenda, too. It's just a big dollar

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number, but >> either that or it could be combined with the regular operating budget >> for the water department. >> I think it has been in the past. >> Oh, like two almost like two motions within the article. >> Yeah. >> Okay.

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>> All right. >> All right. Move favorable action for the water tank maintenance. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. And we'll um we'll get the water commission vote on there, not sewer. >> Oh, yeah. >> All right. Um renewable energy

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enterprise fund budget. This is one we have every year, and I would recommend it goes in the consent agenda. >> It Carl, this one never will make sense to me why we have to do this. >> I agree. And nobody ever understands it except Carol.

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>> Why? Why? Why? Whatever. It's fine. >> Battle for a different day. Yep. Move favorable action for the FY27 renewable energy enterprise fund budget. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I

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>> I said you put money in. Did you take money out? But I don't. >> Okay. Revolving funds. Um there is no change. >> Uh >> proposed lease revolving fund at the bottom. I believe that amount is new.

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>> That's new. Okay. Okay. Otherwise, everything's the same. That's right. >> Okay. >> Anybody want to vote on it separately? We all just want to do a dollar a month. >> How how much do we want to give the police revolving fund? >> We made it 100,000.

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>> We don't give them anything,000. >> How much they can take in and then how much they can expend out of it. >> I I understand. >> No, I'm just I I know you understand, but not everyone knows these things. So,

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are we comfortable with 100,000, Mr. Pike? >> I think it's a little high, but um I'm not going to vote against it. >> Okay. >> I I I think people have heard me say before, I do not like these uh revolving

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funds that it takes too much money away from the day-to-day controls that we have in place. in a town administrator and a director of finance. Um my my favorite one has always been recreation.

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I just think there's too much that flows through this account that doesn't get a lot of oversight. Yes, there are reports and there's this that and the other thing, but whoever looks at them. So, u that's just kind of um my comment on

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trying not to continue to add more and more of these revolving funds. >> She does look at >> I imagine I was wondering if Carol raised her hand who looks at them. >> Who looks at them? >> I was just saying I do. >> Yeah.

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>> Do we have to add the police on here? Because it says in the description it doesn't say the police on here. It should say, "Oh, you mean in the description?" Yeah, we can add that. It's fine. I mean, it's really >> Yeah, I had that, too. >> Had previously been established for And

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then we say, um, >> board of health and police. >> PD is new. Board of Health is new, too. >> Yep. >> Okay. Okay. Good. Good for me. >> All right. Move favorable action for

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revolving funds. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> I write with disdain. Thank you. Carl. >> Okay. Establish a police revolving fund. Oh, it's Carl's favorite for um receipt

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of opiate settlement funds from outside communities to fund the family services unit. >> So, I think on a couple of these we might want to hold off the vote. >> Okay. Uh not that there's anything um I I just think that they're going to end up

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>> with a different uh fund. Okay. >> Um just in and talk >> after talking with Kate and her reviewing it, she thought that maybe they could be set up in a different way. So I just want to review it >> with her one more time. As far as the police revolving fund, it's not that we

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don't want we do want to have these two funds. I think actually the second one I did uh come up with the proper language for but I'd rather just make sure >> the 11F 11F. Okay. So hold that one too. >> Yeah. Unless I just vote them conceptually but I I do have to change

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that language. So >> I mean I generally support the idea of them and where the motion is just >> an action last year too. I can't tell. But if I guess my thinking is if the mechanism is going to change then we

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should just wait. >> It's just going to Yeah. And and the two again they're both good funds. Obviously I have um the the police revolving fund for the um family services union is because there are other communities that are involved in that that will be giving us money that will then have to be taken

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and used to pay um for that support. And then the um 111F U fund also is sort of similar that the money will be coming in when a firefighter or police officer uh god forbid ends up out injured or um and we're receiving those funds and we have

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to have a mechanism to then replenish with you know the budget. So um conceptually they're both um worthy. Um I just want to sort of double check that language. At what point do we have to publish the warrant on the website like the approved warrant? Like how many

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days? >> What day was that? >> 28th Thursday. >> This Thursday. >> No. >> 28th. Next Thursday. Okay. >> Okay. >> So, we'll have to motion. >> Yeah. By that, but we can we can we can have a

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>> we have to have a can be published without your votes. >> That's true. But we >> we'll come up there with the proper language and you can some of these things if you can't get to it we can make them known when we print it at town meeting right right before anyway sometimes a few things too if we need to

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>> publish a handout or whatever that says our votes so you know >> either way. Okay. >> So two >> transfer of to employment liability reserve fund. >> This one is also I would put this one in the consent on the recommendation

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liability. >> Yep. Okay. >> I was just waiting. >> Any questions? >> Yeah. >> Concerns? >> Is this Is this 150,000 or 100,000? >> 150. >> I don't know what copy you're looking

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on. You must have an old version. >> I got I have the one that you gave to the finance committee. >> Well, we gave you a brand new one tonight. I I have the but all my notes. >> We probably made all those correct something else. >> They fixed it.

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>> We already fixed it. It does say 150. >> The new one does. >> The new one >> and one we're looking at does. >> One that everybody else is. >> Carl's going to keep you on your toes. That's >> Are you good? >> I'm good. Okay. You want me to email it to you, K? You can pull it up when you're

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>> It's in this packet right there. No, I'm looking at But it it's it's hard to get the numbers and compare it as quick as we're trying to move. >> Oh, I was going to say you should have it in the packet, too. Right under your mouse. It should be a printed version, too. That's >> I'd rather have one here and one.

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>> You got it. Whatever you want. We will slow down whenever you want us to. I'm at your disposal, Carl. >> You just let her know if you're ready. >> I'm good. I'm good. >> Okay. Move favorable action for the FY27 transfer to employment liability reserve fund.

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>> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> And appropriate is going to go on consent so we don't have to >> hopefully I mean you never know what >> we do different things, right? >> I guess I do have a question for Carol on that. >> If we have a balance in there and we're

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adding 150,000, doesn't that put us over the limit? Um I anticipate the fund being fully depleted by year end because of one retirement. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So transfer to OPED health

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insurance liability fund. >> Same every year. >> Mhm. So you consent your thinking again for that one. >> Okay. Move favorable action FY27 transfer to other postemployment OPED health insurance liability fund.

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>> Second. >> Any questions, Carl? Anything? >> No. >> Okay. >> All right. All those in favor? >> I >> You know what we didn't do? We didn't assign these articles to the ones that were to us. >> Forgot to put that part. >> Okay. We had

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>> How many did we have? Did we miss any? >> This seems like Well, the other two we held. >> We held the other two. So, it's just the employment liability. >> So, um renewable energy, who wants to move that one if it's not in the consent agenda? >> I will.

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>> Carl, good. Because if anyone asks any questions about that one, that one could be for you. >> Um revolving fund. >> Joe, you want to take that one? It's always recreation that causes the problem. >> Uh let's see. We're holding on those two. You might as well pick somebody.

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>> Okay. Um, family services unit revolving fund. I can do that. Chief will explain it to me, right, Chief? >> Yes. >> Can we just do both of those since they're right after each other and they're similar? Okay. >> I'm saying that. I'm not going to be

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there, but yes. Yeah. All right. So, um, employment liability reserve fund. I'm going to say Sheila. >> I can do that. >> That's if it's not in the consent, right? And then oped. That sounds like a Carl. >> Okay. >> Actually, wait. That's finance committee. Never mind.

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>> Finance committee. >> We don't have to do that. You're not on that committee anymore, so we're good. All right. So, transfer to capital stabilization fund. Also finance committee. This is the same thing we do every year. >> Mhm. Any questions or concerns? >> No.

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>> No. >> Okay. Move favorable action for the FY27 transfer to capital stabilization fund. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Okay. Similar here. Uh municipal building

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insurance fund. It's pretty much the same every year. >> No problem. >> Move favorable action FY27 transfer to municipal building insurance fund. >> Second. >> All those in favor? I >> I

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>> Okay, this also finance committee capital planning. We already did unanimous support. The only thing I was going to say is I think they're only a four member committee. So, it's 400, not 401. And I don't know any of the finance committee votes right now.

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And I think those were fine. You had did you have any um comments on the motions for all of those ones for capital planning? >> Uh no. >> Okay. Um article 17. I don't think we voted

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that one. That's also capital planning. >> Mhm. >> Fire. I mean the not the fire engine, the ambulance. >> Anyone have any questions or concerns on that one? >> No. Okay. Move favorable action for the purchase and equipment of a new

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ambulance and to equip a new ambulance. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> reluctantly. >> I'll put it in there. >> I have it atalicized. >> All right. Samson fund. Um, Ken had

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something for uh Ken Moali, our treasurer, tax collector, had something that I think was going to be potentially added to the Samson fund requests. >> That he had more um available income to

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um use for some of the requests. So, okay. But he also said he may be even another additional one prior to town meeting. >> Interesting. So um >> so they would have to vote that too though for >> you would have to vote it again and I think that well I think the fund would

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the s the trustees would already have >> well so it would be the moderator who is brand new >> the treasurer and now myself >> so we probably would have to vote anything new >> and late request so >> all right well we'll just vote it as is so the way this works is we can't amend

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or adjust any of the recommendations from the Samson fund they get applications they vote on them whether they recommended to town meeting or not. So, you just kind of vote whether you're in favor of this or not. >> Right, Carl? Is that your understanding? >> Correct. >> Okay.

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Questions, concerns. >> Okay. Move favorable action for the FY27 Samson fund appropriations. >> Second. >> All those in favor? I >> I Okay. Fireworks.

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Mhm. Oh gosh, I miss you, Sheila. All right, so Community Preservation Committee administrative budget. So, this first piece of this article is just merely allocating the the funds and um

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appropriating their administrative expenses. Sheila, you're on CBC. Yeah. So, I will probably be moving this article as my guest. >> Oh, jeez. Yeah, that's >> I had to move it last time. So, so I don't know who's coming. I have to ask. I think I think he's coming to town. I think he said he's coming, right? Yeah, he's coming.

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>> So, any questions or concerns about the administrative budget? >> No, >> we've gone over it and over it. >> Move favorable action for the FY27 Community Preservation Committee administrative budget. >> Second. >> All those in favor?

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>> I. >> Okay. And then there's recommended projects. So the first project is pretty much moving money from the affordable housing bucket to affordable housing trust for their management.

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>> We often get objections from some people about that because they don't have a project specifically in mind, >> but it was supported by community preservation committee. So, >> I don't like voting against the CPC, but uh I always feel obligated to vote

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against this one because we keep transferring money into a trust that we don't do anything with. >> So, one thing that is good about it, just as a counterargument, is that it's only being transferred out of the affordable housing bucket. So, it can

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only be used for affordable housing. It's not like they're taking from undesated, which is one positive piece. Mhm. >> Anyway, I'm good. >> Okay, >> everybody good? >> Okay. Move favorable action for the community preservation fund appropriations for recommended projects.

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>> Oh, sorry. To fund the >> to fund the affordable housing trust general fund. >> There you go. >> Sorry. >> Second. >> Okay. All those in favor? >> I >> opposed. >> There you go. So 410.

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At least he's consistent. All right. I've seen me in there. I know. I know. >> All right. So, next is um to fund conservation purchase on Maple Street. So, I watched some of the the CPC

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meetings. My one concern is that capital planning committee did not get this presented to them and they're supposed to look at all the land purchases for long-term planning and whatnot. So, just throwing it out there. Um, so their vote is going to probably be 000 because they

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did not weigh in. >> And I'm not excited about >> purchasing more land for the town. >> Yeah, understood. >> Every time we purchase land, we take it

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off of the tax roles. And even even if it's land that's, you know, nothing's not providing much revenue, you never know when it could be turned into a business or a four bedroomedroom apartment building or something that

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would be on the tax roles. >> Yeah. >> If Well, if I may, >> Valerie, >> that's actually intended to be um the if we purchase the land on Maple Street. I think the intent overall is to redevelop

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it uh for housing. >> Mhm. >> And um it would it would be a joint effort, the affordable housing trust and others. Um but it's Matt's article. So, >> okay, that's helpful because it

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definitely reads in the description as though it's really just for wetland protection and improving fish passage. So that will be helpful context if we add that information in as a part of the purpose. >> So some of that information was in there and then um I believe

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>> after our first pass with council it was removed. So that is interesting. It is the intent, but I think it's just because of it does tend to convolute it when you put all this in. And it's just we don't know what the next step would be once we purchase it. When we I don't

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know that if it if it's necessarily appropriate to say that we're actually going to do that at this point, but it is the intention and hopefully that is what happens. >> The intent is there, but not to add that because it hasn't been >> Yeah. Yeah, I can discuss it more with

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with um Kate and No, that makes that makes sense. >> You know, do anything else with the description or perhaps when um CPC talks about it >> um >> they can mention it. >> Okay. Okay. Any other questions?

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>> You good? >> Oh, I'm good. Move favorable action for the community preservation fund appropriation to fund conservation purchase on Maple Street. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> I

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>> opposed. I mean I I'm going to say no just based on what I see here before me and the way it was presented to CPC. So I I support more of what Valerie described and not >> this. So So it's 32. >> Is that right?

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>> Yeah. Correct. Correct. >> I'm on the CPC. >> Yep. I vote for it. Say no. >> Okay. So, conservation land purchase improving access to halfway preserve off whopping road. >> This is about just just less than 4

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acres. Um would include a parking area, split rail fence, and information kiosk for >> $387,000 for a parking lot. >> That's what it says.

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It is a long driveway. Okay. Ready. Move favorable action for the community preservation fund appropriation to fund conservation land purchase improving access to the halfway preserve off of whopping road.

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>> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Opposed. >> Yeah. I'm going say no too. 320. Okay. Um >> I'm in favor because the community preservation committee voted it.

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>> Yeah, I get it. I want I rewatched those meetings this week just to refresh myself on >> access to some of these preserves because you can't >> Yep. It's a lot. It's a lot of money. >> Yeah. The real solution is to do away with the uh CPC

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one half a percent or whatever that we charge people. >> It's not on the agenda, but maybe we can go back put it back on the agenda. Um okay, so next one is funding old uh the historic olding ground restoration. So this is restoring and preserving

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approximately 70 to 100 Greystones in the old berry and ground. Um, yeah. I mean, I think this one's pretty self-explanatory, but >> Yep. Um, move favorable action community preservation fund appropriation to fund

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historic old burying ground restoration. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> I >> Oh, that sounded unanimous. >> All right. So, now we have um the Steven Drew Heritage House. There is a request

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to rehabilitate six window sills, do some painting, and repair the southern wall of the Steven Drew Heritage House. >> Mhm. >> Going to be featured in the >> I was just going to say that, right? Yes. Yeah.

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>> I don't know if that's helpful. >> That's a privately Is that a privately owned home? Do we know, Sheila? >> I don't say it. >> It is. I think it's >> Oh, it's not a priv Okay. So, privately, but it's not by like it's not >> someone's house. Okay.

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>> All right. All right. Move favorable action for the community preservation fund appropriation to fund the Steven Drew Heritage House rehabilitation. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Oh, okay. I 00. I get excited when it

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says I community presentation. Um, all right. So, next we have Graze Beach Park Community Tennis and Basketball Court Rehab. We have two con, we have two recreation commissioners here who could speak to

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this more. Sure. >> Specifically, um I do believe Capital Planning voted 400 on the Graze Beach rehab. Correct. Yes. >> Okay. >> Um yeah, it's just that the Grace Beach Park um basketball courts are in

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disrepair. Um and you know it was presented as well as the existing tennis courts. They're well loved and well used throughout the year and um needed to be rehabbed, revitalized and fixed. >> Mhm. >> They were get they have um some

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significant >> tree rot and injury and cracks and seals and all of that. They're pretty in >> How old are they? >> Someone asked me that. Do you remember how old they are? >> Okay, that's fine. >> They're super old. That's I'm going to go with super old technical term.

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>> I just don't know how old >> some of them did 10 schools at the high school pretty pricey. >> They are just service them. >> They're very old. >> Move favor Oh, sorry. Does anybody have any other questions before I move that? >> Questions? Okay. Move favorable action for the community preservation fund

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appropriation to fund Grace Beach Park Community Tennis and basketball court rehabilitation. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I I >> All right. elected officials compensation. I'm going to say it again. I don't think we should get stipens, but it is what it

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is. It's not our article to present. It's finance committees. >> I agree with that. >> I agree with that, too. >> It's like what? >> The 15. Yeah, whatever. >> It's kind of sad. >> Finance committee wants to give us a stipen. Fine. Whatever. >> Any thoughts, objections? It's their

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article to present. So, it's pretty standard from what we usually do. >> Okay. Move favorable action for the FY27 elected officials compensation. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> did you say that was potential for the

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consent agenda or >> um it could be but the for whatever reason the the clerk and collector treasure salaries which are usually down there >> it's always contentious. I don't know why over a couple of grand after voting

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a $60 million budget, but it's possible. We could potentially put it in there and see what happens. >> See if anyone pulls it, right? If it's that only one. >> Okay, so we have this is Yeah, that one's a hold. So, that's the wage and personnel bylaw. We're not sure if they

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have things here. >> Um, this one. So, storm water permit, the federal stormwater permit. That one is one I'm going to suggest for the consent agenda because I think that was that's standard article. >> It's not going away. >> Okay. Move favorable action for the FY27

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federal storm water permit. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Okay. >> Oh, ma'am. >> I can read. >> Peanut gallery wants to know who's reading it. How many articles do people have so far? >> I have one.

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>> Okay. might send it anyway. So, >> okay. It's probably, but it's good to assign them anyway. Okay. Um, the next one is a citizen petition. We can, but don't have to vote on it. So, different different boards throughout the six years I've been on here have chosen

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different paths on this. So, some citizen petitions, they don't vote because they just want the citizens to be able to lead the discussion how they want to lead it without the board necessarily driving that. Um, I'm open to whatever you guys want to do. >> And I I will add um the that article and

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the next article which are the same citizen petitions. I've included motions but uh council has recommended that we don't draft the motions. >> So those will come out. Um the citizens will have to uh bring forward their own motions. >> Also hopefully they call us a board of

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selectment instead of select board. >> Hey wasn't me. Do we know h have they done what they the work they need to do with the planning department and the you know everybody else >> on maybe she

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>> yeah they did and then Kate did ask that did they have a layout hearing I guess they did and they did come to this board >> yeah we approved it to go to the next step >> so >> I'll let Val I believe >> she is can answer >> yeah and you know the planning board

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voted against both of these Mhm. >> So, we should put that actually include the planning. >> Well, you know what? They didn't vote on the article. They voted against it coming to us. >> So, I don't know that they're >> they voted against the article. >> Oh, the article as well. Okay.

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Interesting. >> They don't want the streets laid out. >> Interesting. Unanimous. Was that a 500? Do you know? >> Yes. >> Okay. Or sorry, 050. It would be nice if we had that on there. >> Interesting.

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>> I don't have any. >> I could go either way on that. >> Yeah. Do you guys want to vote on it or do you want to just leave it up to the residents to >> I'd say vote in support of the planning board? >> Me, too.

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>> I don't know that that's an option, but >> we can just >> He can vote on his own. >> We can do favorable action and then just say no. And it's just we can all say no or we can >> or we can leave it off. >> If you want to support the planning board then vote >> that that's what I'm saying.

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>> So my my biggest concern about >> sort of how the that that discussion was that I saw which was I didn't see the most recent one on the article but I did see the discussion when they voted against even it coming to the next step was they said we don't want any more roads is what I understood. not that

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they didn't do a good job, not that it wasn't according to plan, was just we don't think we should take on any more roads. And I would argue that's sort of overstepping and outside the bounds of what they're supposed to be voting on at that time. >> So, they're allowed to express their opinions. They're elected officials for the town of Kingston. But my argument is

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it should go to town meeting if they've checked all the boxes. The town meeting decides. >> So, if we vote now, I would vote in favor of the article here. I don't know if I would vote in favor of the article at town meeting as a resident and voter, but I think I support this. They've done

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everything they're supposed to to go to town meeting. >> They did all their steps. >> They did. >> And I think they could bring the whole neighborhood with them. >> I think I believe from what I understand is the intention was always for it to eventually become a town road, not to

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remain private forever. But I don't know if that's true. No, Valerie shakes her head. Is that not true? They they it was in initially proposed >> comprehensive permit. So 40. >> Okay. >> I don't believe that um from what I'm

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hearing from council, I don't believe that they're allowed to petition town meeting, but we'll get more direction from council. >> Oh, interesting. Okay. Maybe we should just leave it alone. >> Not vote too, too.

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>> I mean, we we've not voted the citizen petitions in the past. >> If if we can't if there's going to be issues with council, too, then that's >> I say we leave it until we get >> fine. Leave it be. >> Okay. And Captain Jones as well. >> What you ever think you'd hear me say

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kick the can down the road? I heard abstain, but that's what I heard because there's no can to kick. It's going to go forward without us, >> right? All right. So, waterways improvement funds appropriation. This isn't this is a typical >> um on this particular article. We may

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want to hold off again. Um there was some discussion at the department a meeting this morning. Uh there's a possible grant that uh the planning department could use some grant matching funds for to get the grant which would be in around $11,000. The chief supports

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it and the chief would like to go back to the waterways improvement committee >> and ask them if that's something that that we can do. I think chief says there's enough funds there to cover it. So that would bring that total from 35,000 to 46,000.

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And I don't know if Carol has something she wants to add on that. >> I do. Um they've in order to get money from the waterways, it requires town meeting vote. >> So over the last couple years, um

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they've sustained a $35,000 balance in order to deal with emergencies, whether the um the dock needs repair, whatever their emergencies are. Uh right now their balance is I think $270. in that special article from years past.

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So they've every year they just replenish it to the $35,000 limit. I feel like it needs to be more than that. Honestly, if they're down to 200, they've already started their season. They still have another what two like month and a half

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>> $35,000 plus >> that they have to get by on $200. I guess my question is there going to be $35,000 then to >> July one >> they have money they should have moved it >> they just have to move it >> yeah they can't spend it they have to

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get permission right Carol like the money exists in there from the fees from their users >> it's just they can't access >> yeah the more fees >> yeah they can't access it without a vote meeting >> right >> do you know what the balance is in there now Carol >> $230

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oh the other account >> in the the the regular account >> uh in the waterways account. I do not know. >> That would be helpful. >> Okay. Well, I mean, I honestly think having the same number every year is

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kind of crazy when prices are increasing all the time and it seems like we're cutting it close every year. But if this is what the water race fund approves, then so be it. But if you want to hold it because we're waiting on that grant thing. >> We could we could vote it and then if the grant possibility does come through,

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I'll ask you to revote it. >> Okay. I mean, I support this or more. >> Okay. Move favorable action for the waterways improvement funds appropriation. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Okay.

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Um All right. So this is acceptance of chapter 653 section 40 of the acts of 1989. So this has to do with this is an assessor article. This has to do with

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using improvements during the earlier in the year in order to count toward new growth. >> Switches it to the fiscal year as opposed to a calendar year. And yes, that would allow us to capture um more new growth or just in it >> earlier. >> Earlier,

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>> right here. >> Okay. >> Is that what they're gonna say instead of just saying this? Because that'd be great to come. I mean, if they put it in layman's terms. >> Yeah, I have to have someone explain it to me. >> The the board of assessors will deal with that. Yeah, I agree. And I can probably

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>> make that easier. >> It really gives you a one-time boost if you're fortunate. >> Yeah. I I think maybe it helps. >> I don't know with forecasting. It's I don't know. Like you said, it may be like that one time thing, but if they

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want to switch, I I I all in favor of everything being on the fiscal calendar. >> Yeah, makes sense. Yep. >> Okay. Move favorable action for the acceptance of chapter 653 section 40 of the acts of 1989. >> Second.

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>> All those in favor? >> I I All right. Um, okay. So, this is acceptance of provisions of master law chapter 333 section 59. Oh, yeah. Okay. I remember this one.

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This is a citizen petition as well. So, this is authorizing the town to provide statutory military leave benefits and protections to eligible municipal employees serving in armed forces, reserves, or national guard in accordance with Massachusetts law.

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Did does is I didn't have time to research this one. >> I don't know if anybody knows the answer, but does it mean if I'm in the Army Reserve and I'm working for the town and now I have to go on two weeks

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duty that I'm going to be paid for those two weeks. >> You'd be paid the difference. So you would you would be paid you would be made whole for whatever that >> is that already in the package. So, we have it like in the package or in >> you have to adopt the law. By the way, it's um the article it says 33, but the

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motions all say uh the article title says 333, but the article and everything says 33. >> We don't have anything for the town and any of the handbooks or anything that says if you go on any type of military, military service that you >> by adopting the law by adopting the law,

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it just it allows them to they would be compensated for 40 days of military leave per federal fiscal year. I'm just wondering if we don't have it already somewhere just because it's military leave. It just seems interesting to me. We don't have it already because >> 40 days. >> This is the I'm reading from the law itself.

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>> It's because >> that's pretty generous. >> Like everything I do if somebody's in the military, it's already like built in to like a contract somewhere. >> I was just going to say built into their contract. >> Yeah. says, "An employee of the Commonwealth in service of the armed forces of the Commonwealth, the armed forces of any other state or reserve

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component of the armed force of the United States shall be entitled to receive pay without loss of ordinary remuneration as a public employee during the service of uniform services annual training." And then it says, "Not exceeding 40 days

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in any federal fiscal year shall not lose any seniority or any acred vacation leave, sick leave, personal leave, compensation time, or earned overtime." It's pretty standard of the contracts. >> I just I don't feel comfortable with a citizen position like this just because I feel like it's part of already

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usually. >> So, it's coming to us from someone who is an employee of the town who didn't have there wasn't time to do it the standard way by the So, it was it was >> okay. >> For lack of a better wording, it was easier to do it as a citizen petition

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and get it in than it was to try to get it to us because it just didn't he didn't realize. So, >> and it's you said Scott it's not in their contract currently like it there's no wording of something like that. >> This would affect this wouldn't just affect contract employees. This will

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affect employees of the town including y >> the school department that's out of the town. >> Um so yeah it's not and it's not in any of the um new contracts >> effective though >> but we also don't have to vote on it.

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the I mean they're not here to present it. So we it's a citizen petition so we can just let it go. >> I know I know who it is. >> He and he already talked to me about this particular thing. Um, so we don't we don't have to vote on it though. Like

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it's And he even said because I said, "Should it come from us?" Like, "Should we support the article? Should we present the article?" And he thought it would be better coming from him anyway, >> just because he he's he really thought this was in the best interest >> of the employees. >> There's nothing here in the town that

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says anything for even for the teachers or whatever. It's just what's it got to be the effect of everybody too? Like I feel like is that I mean again how many veterans do we have and how many people does this affect and how much money do we are we going to be putting into this? I get it. Totally get it. It's just

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>> the the town is a lot of people. So I just want to make sure that if we put this in, you know, I don't want to I wanted to help out people. I get that about veteran services, but I just want to make sure that we're not going to >> it's not a it's not a it's not a veteran benefit. It's an active

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>> act. I mean reactive active >> and I don't believe it's going to affect that many. Come on. >> I suggest we have asked >> and we just go. >> I suggest we pass on it. >> Kick the can. All right. Noted. >> Okay. >> Um well and for the person presenting the article note that we would the board

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of selectment would like to know the impact. >> All right. So acceptance of provisions of master law chapter 60 section 62A tax title payment agreements. So, based on what I see here, which I I don't have much more information than this, um it

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looks as though the tax title custodian is trying to be able to have um the ability to negotiate repayment. I would I would defer to Carl on his thoughts on this. >> How do you feel about that tax title

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guy? We the the treasurer the treasurer here in Kingston in my experience has in fact negotiated informal payment agreements before. My only question on this one is

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in the description it says with property owners whose properties have been taken through the tax title process. Then in the next paragraph it says the agreement can help property owners avoid foreclosure. Well, I think those two

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statements are in conflict, >> but you know, besides that, I don't really have any problem with it. >> I I think so. this one 29 and 30. Um the question was from council

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that this should be done as a um a bylaw and I've asked um Ken who proposed this to to you know give us the >> how we insert this in the bylaw so where

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it would go and sort of refine the whole um article. So we could probably hold on it. I I I'm not opposed to it either. I think it's probably >> and if we have tool that's a good tool, but >> if we have to hold on it until the fall town meeting, I wouldn't see an if

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problem. >> Carl suggested non-urgent matters be pushed to fall town meeting. >> Well, I I agree with Carl. I feel like >> I feel like I don't I think taking out already been taken that makes that doesn't make sense to me. But if I think

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it's up getting them to not be put on, which is important. Um, Carol had her hand raised. Carol. >> Yeah. I just wanted to clarify for uh Carl. Um, Carl, the first part of that was regarding the tax settle themselves.

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So, obviously, you know, um, tax titles have to go through a process in order to get foreclosed upon. So, once they're foreclosed on, they have that year for redemption. But the tax title payment would only uh

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payment agreement would only be from the portion of the time from the tax title to time of foreclosure. >> I think I understand and it's a good reason why I hated anything to do with tax title.

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>> Right. And we have a separate tax title custodian as well, don't we? >> Right. All right. So, let's hold this one for now because that sounds like and just based on the I'm looking at the mass legislaturator.gov and it says by bylaw or ordinance. So, this doesn't

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>> which was what the next article they were kind of >> I like I like 30 I think. >> So, I think >> I think this is a good one. >> This is a good one. You like that one? That's a hold as well. I'm assuming. >> Well, that is part of it. Yeah, that is the actual language that we need. >> Okay.

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>> To incorporate that into the Bible. So, we don't actually need this one. We just need >> that. All right. >> So, that's a big >> All right. So, we're on to um the zoning

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bylaw change for the residential accessory dwelling units. I know Carl had thoughts on the length. Yeah, Valerie will appreciate my comment that th this uh residential accessory dwelling unit uh Bible is about as long

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as the US Constitution. >> Thank you. >> The town council has asked us to put the entire language in. This was already voted last year and approved and the attorney general in their review looked

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at it and said that we need to make a couple of changes. I had written it up as u like three paragraphs. Town council asked that we put the entire language in. >> Yeah. >> And unfortunately this isn't showing you the changes the track changes that are

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actually part of the article. Um I'm deferring to town council and putting the article in in its entirety. >> Yes, I understand. We >> letter that the that changes. >> Yes, we we do typically do that though. It's just to show people where it is and

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give them context of the whole bylaw. So I appreciate that. Um Valerie, uh I guess highlevel review. You said minor changes like just really small tweaks to different sections. >> Yeah, they didn't like the definition.

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still including single family dwelling. So we have to change it to two f you know more >> other vents. So just dwelling little things like that. Um they also had a comment about our setbacks and we had a

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conversation about that and decided that we needed to refer to the accessory structure setbacks. So we made um two other minor tweaks. >> Got it. Thank you. Let's move it. >> Yeah, I'm good. Just track the changes.

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>> All right. Ready? >> No, they were tracked. There was just a cut and basically just all accepted. >> It happens twice. >> All right, Missy. Okay. Move favorable action to amend the zoning bylaw section

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7.8 residential accessory dwelling units. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Okay. And this one is my favorite. >> Proposed corrections to the zoning bylaw use table. Is there any way to explain

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all of this for those of us who don't look at the zoning use table all that often? >> Yeah. So, um, we used to years ago have each different zoning district written out in text. And

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in around 2016, 2019, before I got here, we hired a firm and we did what we called a recodification where we took all of those uses and we put them into a table format. And when we did that, we already in 2025

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captured where the uh that was done incorrectly and a lot of uses were dropped out of the commercial district and we fixed that at the 2025 town meeting. This is going in and looking at the commercial and industrial uses more

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so than the small retail. Sorry, I can hear someone talking, but I I'm not sure if they're asking me a question. >> No, you're good, Valerie. Keep going. >> So, everywhere it's highlighted in yellow was an error on part of the consultant and uh all of those uses were

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inadvertently dropped >> from our zoning. So all those uses need to be put back in because that's tremendously impactful on our um economy by having those uses having been um incidentally and inadvertently deleted

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from the zoning >> and I've worked very very closely with Paul Armstrong to to do this in tandem with him and it's taken a lot of time to pull together. >> Perfect. Well, thank you so much. Thanks, Val, because this this will be

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helpful for us as we move forward with the commercial districts. >> Looks good to me. >> Sounds good. >> You're up, Missy. >> All right. Move favorable action for the proposed corrections to the zoning bylaw use table. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I.

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>> Thanks, Belle. All right. Amend dog control bylaw. So, this proposes waving dog license fees for people over 70, which I would argue shouldn't be in a bylaw at all. That should be a policy decision made by this

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board, but that's for discussion, I suppose. Um, it's also revising the bylaw to incorporate that acceptance into align with recent legislative changes to dog licensing and kennel laws. Um, but again, I don't see the Oh,

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is this the underlying piece? Is that the change? I guess I'm not clear on which things were changing and I'm not super familiar with the wording as it was before. Um, so I think are do you know is are the changes the underline bold ones?

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>> Do you have like a read version of the changes on the animal control? >> Okay. I think I'm thinking the age break is not >> okay. >> Got it. Yeah. I mean, it looks like

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they're all underlined in bold from what I can see in here. >> Mhm. >> And it really does just reference or change >> it. It had been was reviewed and worked um the ACL did work with um account

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council on the whole draft changes. So are we we are making this motion pro I mean probably right we're presenting this bylaw change since animal control falls under >> the police department. Okay. So, I I

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support this generally, but I would take out the no fee shall be charged for a license of a dog owned by a person 70 or older only because we choose the fees and the age and all that stuff typically for all of the other

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uh services that we offer like the transfer station, even Gra Beach. That's all decided in a policy as opposed to a bylaw. But you guys tell me what you think. >> I mean, somebody paid somebody paid for

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a dog license, somebody didn't a little Facebook. So, it's like, hey, listen, it's like depends on the day that you walk in there. I think it's just a matter of like we should just have no age. It's like, hey, first of all, you shouldn't be asking anybody. >> It's what, $10? I just don't think you should be asking anybody their age, but

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just leave it as it is and just if they can't pay for it, then >> So, here's the question. Do we do we just vote this as presented by animal control or because we're presenting it, do we potentially amend that, change that and just strike that line?

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>> Um, my only recommendation would be to check with council on that line. I don't know that >> again. It's something that they worked on together. I'm not sure if there's any >> Yeah, I don't love all these dollar amounts in a bylaw, honestly, because if anything changes, it's going to be a

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huge pain in the butt to get it back to tell you change again. That whole section on E is all has fees and everything in there. So, anytime we that needs to be addressed, you're going to have to go back to town meeting and update the bylaws over and over again. So,

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>> and I I think 70 is a random age. 65. >> But do you see the paragraph after that? on page 55. All of that has dollar amounts and things, which typically that's done in a policy, not in a bylaw. >> I agree with you, Kim. >> I see what you're saying. >> I don't like seeing all these dollar amounts in here either.

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>> Just the least number of times we can change a bylaw the better. >> Yep. >> So, hold this one. So, hold >> I guess. Yeah. My only question and I'll ask those dollar amounts are they set by >> They could be the fines. Yes. But the the waving of the license,

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>> is it like a state regulatory license fee? >> But I'll check with council. >> So I what I would say >> vote this way. >> Okay. >> What I would say on that is if it's if it's already set by state statute, reference the statute, not the dollar amount. >> So that way we don't have to edit it.

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>> Yeah. Okay. >> Okay. So holding that one. >> Yep. >> Um >> Okay. Well, that's the 15 pages. >> Okay. Yeah. Townwide communication plan implementation. And I leave this one to you because >> this is all I think you will make the

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motion. So, um this is something I've done in in another community I'd like to bring to this community. Uh there's a couple components to this. The first component is our um community notification system. Currently, we're working with um the sheriff's

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department, which is um it's great because it's free and and I'm I'm glad they're offering it. I think this town and like many other towns around us were working with code red for the longest time which was something that we as departments could each um

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access and send out communications to the community as needed. Whether it be something like an you know a storm that's coming up or it might be um the town meetings coming up. It could be that we could uh notify a particular section of town to say that there is a

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accident in traffic or another section of town to say um we're flushing water mains this week. Mhm. >> So this was um this would bring in a company um that is actually the same company that hosts our web um page which

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is Civics Plus or Civic Civics Plus and they do offer the same service and that that part is roughly 10 or $11,000 for the um first year and I believe it' be like $9,000 going forward if we decide

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that we want to continue with this. The other part of this includes um a coordinated effort in bringing in um I used a a consultant that helped coordinate the departments to first of all we go through um everybody's web page and website and make sure that um

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links are active things are up to date. We coordinate the messages that go out. We'll bring a policy to this committee um or to this board to adopt a policy on social media use and how we message things. Those messages that will go out

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will be um you know again things on Facebook, Instagram and then it'll be a live feed right on our web page as those go out and again they may be notifications of town meeting, they may be notifications of an event or a storm of whatever. Um another another

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component of this is is also a quarterly newsletter that we'll put together. a quarterly newsletter um would be electronic. Although there are some folks who have asked me if we do go forward with this if they could have a printed version which is something that we could discuss

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um how we would do that. But again the quarterly newsletter would bring up topical things if it's near town meeting time. It'll start talking about the town meeting in the process. It'll um include employee um spotlights, department spotlights. And this also coordinates

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with the um one thing that I I've already started the process of in the uh first two u tapings at the local scene I believe they call it will be with the uh police department and with the highway department which quick 15minute segments

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to introduce the departments and what the departments are doing to the community and give them an opportunity to find out and put uh names to the faces and get an idea of what is going on and this was in response when I did this in the u my blast community was

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really in response to feedback that I got that there wasn't enough information coming out of town hall people didn't >> uh feel as connected to um town hall as they could be so um you know this is um

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like I said the first year would bring in the consultant help us put it all together introduce it to the board bring the policies that go with it to the Um and then ongoing after the first year would be um we would bring into the

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budget the cost of keeping the civics plus and the community notification system and u if we continue on with the consultant or someone to do the newsletter the cost of doing the newsletter. >> I like it. I have just a quick question

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with the consultant that you're thinking about. Um >> it would go up >> also. Okay. So, it'll do web design and accessibility and all of those things in that. >> Yeah. Actually, one thing I talked with Civics Plus about too, um, is that we

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we're not there is an accessibility component to to our web page that we're not taking advantage of. So, they did actually offer a price up for that, too. And it was very affordable. Actually, that one wasn't very much. So I I would tie that in with this and actually use that just so what everybody else So so

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within our web page and and ADA guidelines and the federal rules do require >> accessibility for people who are looking for things on our web page and it's kind of surprising and and I will actually I'll they're going to do a presentation for a department meeting but I think I can probably break down some of those

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slides u for you folks too just to get an idea of exactly what it means but it is something that we should be doing. And that's a real easy fix. >> We're doing that at the college and it's crazy because even if like a PowerPoint presentation or whatever you have, you have to get that

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>> the ADA device. It's pretty there's a bunch of software out there too, you can, you know, plug it in and make it easier. So that's really great idea, but I think especially with the ADA, but I mean Trist like six years ago was >> got a new website. Crazy. Keith brought

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um our prior town administrator brought forward a PR firm, similar idea, similar concept. Um there are lot a lot of communities that have marketing people that actually work for the community and their job is to create I know I'm not asking for that but their job is to

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create newsletters and update websites and do whatever social media blasts and whatnot. Um I realize is it's different similar idea but handled differently because obviously employees come with benefits and other costs associated with them. Um, I think if this is something that we

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want to pursue, and I realize we don't have it right now, but if this is something we want to pursue, we need we would need to be thinking about it as part of the operating budget because it would be an ongoing cost in the long run. And I understand this is a firstear concept. Um, I don't

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I don't know that I support adding something like this right now given where we are. I know we're we're squeaking by this year, but that's my two cents in terms of financial aid. I just don't support. >> I will say the difference between this and is much different than using a PR

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form, which I wouldn't I don't feel that we have any need for a PR firm. I think our department heads are all quite capable of putting together press releases. Um, and I know I am. So, >> true. Um but it is um it is important and I think especially the newsletter

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part of it because it does get a lot of information out on a quarterly basis. Um and it's difficult to do it in house though in in >> other things um other components of this are difficult to monitor in house the um which we can do and we we will try and

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do but just the um one part of this would be um having it on a monthly basis somebody is assigned to meet with a consultant who will review their so one month of the year it will be the police department that will sit with that

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consultant and review everything that's in your your web page. What is in there? Do uh do the links work? Are they active? Are they topical? Are they, you know, current? And um are they accessible? >> So, um I do and I I totally understand

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that's like I said, that's why, you know, um asking for the free cash to get this up and running this year, but absolutely there will be costs associated with it next year that will have to be built into the budget. But for for no other reason, um not having

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the ability for us to have control over getting messages out to the community with the with the uh community notification system. Um it just puts us at a disadvantage when we you know and they do it's it's a great uh product

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that you know to a certain extent that we're getting from the sheriff's department in the county to be able to do that but it's not um it's it's you know playing that old game where we go down the line where I'm going to give the message to the chief. The chief's going to give the message to

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a dispatcher down in somewhere and then a final message is going to come out and it's just going to be to only the people who signed up and it's only going to be through phone call. This system allows us to >> text um email or call or do all three

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just one of the three or whichever we want to do. So, it's a great tool. Um again I I nobody understands the difficulties um that we're facing because all I've been doing is working on this budget since January 5th. So >> I know >> um and the departments and the

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department heads have all been amazing uh to work with and each one of them is um you know done everything they can to help balance this budget and to um you know be careful with the funds that they have this year too. Mhm.

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>> I don't have any problems with the $40,000. I think it's a reasonable amount to, you know, get something going. I do have a concern similar to Kim about on an ongoing basis. You know, do I end up with, you know, three years

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from now, we're looking for a director of communications at $100,000 a year or something like that? that we we've seen that happen too many times here. But I'm willing to, you know, say, "Hey, I'll

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support this $40,000 going forward and cross that next bridge a year from now or two years from now." >> When we get electronic signatures, we'll stop spending $3,000 on paper. I I will also say that I don't anticipate that the ongoing I think that the setup and I

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know that the first year is what >> would cost the most going forward it would probably be more like you know between the >> the civics plus and having um someone helping us with it um or could even be a part-time employee at that point. If

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it's going to cost us $20,000 a year going forward, I can find 10 from the fire department, 10 from the police department, and I got no problems. >> Oh boy. >> And I think to be fair, the accessibility piece of it is important. And I know that there are companies that

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are out there tagging >> schools, colleges, towns for not having the accessibility. And that could create a fine for us at well as well at one time. Yeah. >> So, I'm in favor of it. All right. Move favorable action for the townwide

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communication plan implementation. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> I don't know. But I appreciate you bringing it forward and I think it's good for the county to vote on it. >> Okay. So, transfer from stabilization

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fund for snow and ice deficit. I think this is self-explanatory. We spent a lot more than we had allocated for and you can deficit spend for snow and ice and we did and now we need to >> as the conservative finance guy here I

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think it's reasonable to take $500,000 out of the stabilization fund for this type of a one-time problem. If I had been taking, you know, money out of that stabilization fund over the last, you know, six or eight years, I might have

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more concern. But at least for the 12 or 13 years I've been heavily involved in finances in the town, we haven't taken any money out of there. So, I think this is a reasonable approach to solve the 800,000 plus problem. I

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>> think it's exactly why it's there for moments just like this. >> Agreed. Move favorable action for the transport transfer from stabilization fund for snow and ice deficit. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> I

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hope we don't have another snow gear like that for a long time. >> Okay. Long-term lease authorization. So, this is authorizing our board to enter into a lease agreement with a wireless

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telecommunications provider. um just on the water tank. So, >> I don't know this pretty revenue stream >> and we can talk next time around about putting the potential revenue stream against capital >> toward capital

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>> or maybe towards a communication plan. >> Oh, there you go. I like that. Take the communication tower, make it pay for communications. >> I like that one. >> Move favorable action for the long-term lease authorization. >> Second. All those in favor? >> I I

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>> All right. Oh, wait. Hold on. Uh, let's go back to townwide communication plan. Who's moving that? >> That's why I said right here. >> Townwide communication plan. >> Town communication plan. Who wants to present that? >> I voted. So,

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>> yeah, but someone has to >> I I will. Okay. I'm fine. >> All right. And then, um, snow and ice was finance committee and then long-term lease. I can do that. >> It's up to you. >> That's fine. I can do that. That's fine.

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>> Um, okay. So, >> 37 fund lieutenants of the Kingston Police Department agreement. >> We apparently already voted 400 according to my warrant here. >> Just kidding. >> You actually haven't voted to ratify it yet. >> Yeah. No.

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>> So, I'm wondering if maybe we hold on this or >> Yeah, hold that one. >> Never mind. I mean, once we ratify it, I'm sure we'll vote in favor of it. I >> hope so. >> Okay. So, this is supplement fiscal year 26 operating budget accounting

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selectment. It >> this um not a hold. So, the the selectman right now is just the I I don't believe we're going to need that one. Accounting payroll number is um accurate. um the IT budget, I think, unless I

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don't believe I have that number yet, but I do believe that we had some um licenses that >> went up during the year that we that weren't accounted for. So, I just want to double check that. >> Okay. So, hold that.

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Um, and question. If we're adjusting things from this current budget, should we I think I sent an email about this, but should we address the >> the lease that was um for that backo that seventh year? That would be a >> I don't know if that's this this would

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be a potential because I know that >> we ended up using um I think it was the highway department >> that was it $18,000 or something >> for that seventh year of the backhoe. That lease payment wasn't in the town meeting warrant last year. So I know

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that there were adjustments made at some point somehow, but I wasn't sure if this is the opportunity to put that money where it belongs for fiscal year 26. If not, that's fine. I just figured I'd bring it up. >> I saw the email, so I'll review it with

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>> It was literally like 10 minutes before the meeting, so >> Okay. >> Okay. I just thought if we're making corrections, >> um I agreed. >> Okay. >> Uh okay. Chapter 90 aortionment. So this >> this just says we're taking the chapter

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90 funds and using them for what they're appropriate for. >> That feels like it's a consent agenda item. >> Oh, I like that. Do we do the >> You've never done it before. >> Yeah, I was going to Yeah, I was going to say, >> so >> what's changed? >> Well, something we should have done.

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>> Other towns that I've been in have have done it and I put the you know, that's what I said to Carol. I'm like, I don't know. I mean, I I I never heard of anybody saying, "Give us the chapter 90 money back, but I know that I've seen it in other towns that I've been in." So,

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it was more like we should just put it in because it's not going to hurt anything to have it in there and maybe we should have been doing it. I'll I'll ask Kate if she says >> I was gonna say just council if council agrees I have no problem. >> She didn't tell me to take it out. She has seen it. So >> we used to vote the annual accepting the

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annual report which I always thought was hilarious. That was always the first article and it's like it's already printed. >> Why are we accepting this? >> So true. >> Yeah, that's right. >> It's crazy. Anyway, okay. >> All right. Move favorable action for the chapter 90 aortionment. >> Second.

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>> All those in favor? Um, >> oh, >> that's a weird word. >> I'm so tired. >> All right, so amend general bylaw 748 open space. What are we doing? >> This came in late from um

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um from Matt and I guess the conservation commission. Look, this apparently for some reason the open space committee members are appointed by the town moderator. They are requesting that um the board of selectmen be the ones who appoint the open space

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committee members. >> That's fine. >> Um not sure why, but they've asked and >> I think the moderator probably has their hands full finding finance committee members and capital planning members. So maybe that was the thinking. But

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>> yeah, that's an easy one. >> I think that that's fine. I don't object. Move favorable action to amend the general bylaw 7-48 open space. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Okay. >> Okay. The last two that you're going to

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see were um just some changes that I got from Val and hopefully I printed them and did it right. But uh thanks for hanging out, Bill, and >> so you you've already voted part of this article that that part one number one of

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this article you've already voted was the use table. >> It's really it's easy to see two, three, four, five, and six are just typos that we need to fix. >> That's so funny. Okay.

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Okay. Everybody good? >> All right. Move favorable action for the proposed changes in the zoning bylaw. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I >> I >> All right. Same thing here. >> Y. >> Okay. >> More housekeeping.

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>> More move favorable action for the proposed corrections to the zoning bylaw. >> Again, >> second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> I. That is the warrant, folks. >> All right. >> Just one question. >> Oh, no.

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>> After all of the based on this warrant where we stand right now after town meeting, what's the balance of free cash? >> I came up with 750 to 800. Carol, >> she's muted.

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>> I was I haven't even looked. I was not prepared. Okay, >> it's late. It's late. >> My quick going through this and I know there were a couple of changes afterwards. I came up with that we would have a balance of somewhere between 750 and 800.

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>> Don't tell the capital committee that. >> Okay, I won't. >> Carol and I will be going over it and because I think there it seems a bit high, but um >> Okay. >> It would be nice. >> Yeah. be because

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we're going to need some free cash in the fall for the union contracts. >> Right. >> Right. We don't have it. We're right at the levy limit. >> We don't have any other place to go. >> Yeah. But also keep in mind the levy

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limit as you see it now was with the House budget. The Senate budget was significantly higher. if you took the balance or or the average of that, it does bump it up a bit or ceiling. Um, so hopefully by the fall we'll have that

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final budget. I would like to think maybe by end of July we'll know what the numbers are and we can just hope there'll be a little improvement there, but you're right. Yeah, we definitely need to have a little buffer in that free cash. >> I agree 100%. And I, you know, my experience on the

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finance committee and still as a member of the selectman here, I'm very comfortable with 750 800k of free cash. I would not be comfortable with 250k of free cash.

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>> That's too close. Okay. All right. So, so the warrant is it's a 10 days prior, not 10 business days, but actual 10 calendar days. Okay. So, next item is to authorize the town clerk to post the annual town meeting warrant. We still

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need to reorganize the order and whatnot, but I think you guys are you guys were okay with that. So, um take a motion to >> I move the board of slackman authorize the town clerk to post the June 6, 2026 annual town meeting warrant. >> Second.

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>> All those in favor? I >> I >> Okay. And minutes. Were there any edits to the May 5th >> minutes? I did not have any.

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>> No. And just for clarification, even if you were not at the meeting, you can vote them just in favor of accuracy or you can abstain or vote no. It's totally up to you. But you don't have to abstain. >> I had no edits.

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>> I move the board of Slackman approve the open session meeting minutes of May 5th, 2026. >> Second. >> All those in favor? >> I. >> Okay. >> What else you got to say? Anything? >> That's amazing.

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>> It's your turn. >> I'm out. >> You're out. Yeah. I'm tired. Okay. So, we said we were going to meet the 2nd and 4th, but we still need to meet June 2nd because we that's the meeting before town meeting. So, I think we should keep that one. Yeah. >> Okay. >> What do you guys think? >> Yeah, >> that's our next regular schedule

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meeting. It's the Tuesday before town meeting. I think that gives us >> just in case something else comes up. And if we need to vote u if we need to have a special meeting to vote any of those articles that are currently held, we'll we'll be in touch, right? >> Yeah.

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>> Okay. Any selectman comments? Thanks for voting us in and thanks for the 4h hour first meeting. This is been amazing. You're welcome. >> Congratulations. You got it. >> You can thank Eric. That's Eric Cone. I don't know if you know he used to be on school committee.

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>> Anyway, mot to adjurnn. Anybody? >> Move to adjourn at 9:40. >> I second that. All those in favor? Hi. >> Hi.