all right let's see this meeting is being recorded by local scene which used to be called TAC television to the rest of us anyone intending to make an audio or video of this recording should notify the chair at this time uh move to open 534 April 8th year of our 2025
all in favor i I All righty terribly exciting see what the evening has in store for us not too much um first thing on the agenda are bills i have a couple of bills from Patrick Herring who is doing
our our permits and our data collection for the school 2016 happy with the service i think I am good good good we have Scott and the second is the DIA technology
they built us quarterly and this is the last quarterly payment that's all the bills all right open session meeting minutes okay tara had emailed these to you i believe these
uh three sessions and sticky to sign it i'll do one at a time move to approve the minutes constitute January 14th 2020 so move all in favor yes case is going to go away
is the guy still they're just going to dismiss the whole thing this was the timing of that oh this is this is my actual cases on TV and all this stuff when I I emailed him like I just saw
text saw you on TV you wouldn't believe it i might have to track that down you can find it uh move to approve the minutes January 28th as constituted the most night for the wedding no one comes
oh is that was part of it just an analogy you know oh okay we should have kept a book of walked out of the court there was an Mike isms definitely all right move to approve the minutes of
February 18th as written how long those men don't know how we feel in my head i don't know where home right you know my daughter might be getting rid of one so you may want to consider
upgrading what my daughter you mean no my daughter's going to be getting rid of hers at some point so you you you can upgrade to a newer model to get back and forth i don't drive a crawler i thought that's what you took in the city no my I had one as a spare i gave it to my
daughter oh all right i didn't think you brought the fancy car in there well I do now here's the image right yeah i tried to get a big drone to fly in with it work all right that looks like
that's about it we have um No we have one thing not anticipated within 48 solar pilot yes so this um I spoke with the attorney bought Madison Energy Investments on Monday
so the background on this this is the the the solar pilot in the carport on Marian Drive joe know where it is where's Mar yeah the train station right there mary O'Donnell mary O'Donnell's property yes
but she led it to Madison and when they first when I first came here it started had permits but they never came to the town for a pilot um wasn't getting any information out of them as to what was going on from what
well from the company so that's when we hired Bruce Wy who is a commercial appraiser strictly for solar and wind powered so just trying to find out what they had what megawatt so everything was
happening after the I hired Bruce then it wasn't operational supposedly for a while and then I went into the um Department of Energy Resource and saw that it was operational and how much it paid in the
date for it so with Bruce's help on appraisal I used that amount to formulate a tax bill for them and they got a revised tax bill or omitted tax bill not a revise um before the end of the year so we did
catch the year that they were operable but didn't know it but for this year or last year that was last two years ago yeah okay um so since then I've used Bruce's appraisal um and depreciated it like 10% each year
so that's where we're at it's on the tax role it's on a personal property bill um they're the only pilot like that but they didn't come to us prior to have a pilot agreement so now they want a pilot
agreement so I went through I'm like well what is why would I do that why would I give you a pilot agreement when you're already operational i thought that the pilot agreement is contemporary pilot is more for like financing and just knowing they have Yeah but it's
over so this is what he he is saying almost almost a threat but we have it at 2.6 megawatt AC he says it's 1.4 but bottom line I'm like why would I do that now after I paid 8 to $10,000 for an
appraisal of this property um well they're saying that we're wrong and they're going to appeal and take us to the appelllet tax so when you have a pilot that's written out they can't that's part of the pilot you can't contest it you can't kill kill it this
is the amount of money for 20 years so I told him I would speak to the board and see what they thought it could be not this year they didn't file an abatement it could be a you know potential um ATB
case or we can just go on like it like we are or I'd like I'd like a pilot because it's guaranteed money right or we can talk to Matt Thomas who they said they worked with who we have hired before um to see what his thoughts are
on this how long have they been operational three years yeah it's it's been a while mhm doesn't that Department of Energy site tell you how much megawws yeah it will yeah so how can they dispute that um I think it's more the
price per megawatt and he was saying we we get like 12 dollars i said "Well my other pilots 12,000 said I get 16,000 per megawatt." So we're not going with like we're not making a deal yeah that we're significantly lower than we are
right now that's not going to happen so I guess my question more is do you want do we want to speak with um Matt Thomas who has helped us in the past in solar and just look into it and see if that's the best
way to go or Yeah I would agree with that yeah it's guaranteed who are you talking with his don't worry his name was Keith um I don't have the I try to zoom both of them but they're they are attorneys for
Madison Investment okay so they they own the equipment and they're the ones that are they're the attorneys yeah they're attorneys for people that own it and now you know they're backtracking because they didn't do this in the beginning and now they want to pilot
yeah i also said to them that we they would need to pay for our attorney's fees right that's how you do it that's how you do it like yeah they they'll our last couple of pilots they paid for the attorney's fees so we asked for our
money to I don't think it would be outrageous to ask for the appraisal fee that we already paid no that's my too it's like 10 I believe it was $10,000 between eight and 10 maybe nine something it's either going to be a hard It either should be a hard cost where they're agreeing to reimburse us for it
right or a soft cost that anticipates it or that we shouldn't be out of pocket for having done it correctly yeah no I I definitely talked to Matt and entertain moving towards getting a pilot done problem is is um I doubt you could do it
till like a fall town right right right warren's closing tonight yeah and and um know I hope to see Matt tomorrow and just see I won't be able to talk to him he's presenting and I have a conference tomorrow um but to talk to him and say can we touch base Thursday and Yeah yeah
no I'm sure you'll be able to grab it for a minute okay so that's I just wanted you to be aware of it and I that's what I was saying i'm like I do spend money for an appraisal because you did not come forward at first and also when we when Bruce Wy was
trying to get information from them you know there would be lots of lapses of information yes how was this installation different from the there's at least one or two others aren't there it's it's pretty much the same yeah um the others all came prior
to installation and in OS for pilot agreements this is the only one town have a have a farm set aside to uh decommission this thing if that generally it's built into the pilot
yeah pilot so if they get a pilot they would have to fund that yes the ones I've seen in the past so they'd have to give the town money to decommission the thing that like that windmill there should have been a decommissioning thing on that
where they just walked up walked away from that in the town i paid for it um I don't know if that because I don't have that many pilots in in my town i know as treasurer I was the the one that's up almost into
Panro can't remember the address elizabeth Spring Road no it's out go out to the high school and go up to the right towards So yeah over in there but they were the town was collecting
$15,000 every year and I was watching for it uh payment no to go into the the decommissioning fund and the town was to
hold this money until whatever it was 30 years and they would get the money back 20 years maybe it was a number of years yeah yeah if they decommissioned a facility
or recommission it you know extend it no that's that was to protect the town like I said if the thing fell apart stopped generating electricity they walk away from it now the town has to has to decommission it and dispose of all the
Yeah junk which would then be junk and so I'm wondering No that's a good point there's protection here because we saw what happened with the wind turbines win yeah and
um well unfortunately you know those funds somebody needs to be watching for it now the planning board is watching for that one the the thing the way um and it's it's kind of backwards the way it's set up now
they actually get a bill but once it goes into a pilot program somebody's got to actually send them a bill right yes we do because it's not it's not it's Yeah it's not part of the billing i have some of them that are in the levy and some that are not
so some I have to play around with value right yeah that are on the levy and the other one I make up a bill and send it to them right and it goes right on on page three of the But that's that doesn't go into an escrow no that would not be us to that
yeah that what you're talking about we wouldn't handle that would be I don't know it's held in escrow right right i'm just writing down these notes to talk and it's it's like a lot of other things that the planning board holds money in
escrow for any development you know if they don't finish the streets or they don't do the utilities or the things that they're supposed to do town has money to deal with yeah i don't know if it's in that exact language but I will find that out
because we did we bought those wind turbines not that the another company came in to do the solar there but they took that amount to take the wind turbines down off what they would have given us so
it's pretty much we paid somebody to take it yeah indirectly that all right so any that's good i'll talk to Matt and see um and and address these concerns and get back to you at the next meeting that is it
move to enter executive session not to return to open session in order to comply with Mass General Law Chapter 59 section 60 to discuss exemption of datement applications fun which are not public record at
5:40 all in favor good evening Kingston