okay I'll open the meeting of the educational fund trustees Thursday February 13 2025 at 7 pm in Room 101 town at the Town Hall at what off 7
709 okay yeah hopefully be a short meeting um you guys want to reorganize no no you don't have to you don't have to do does this come up every year usually every year because usually you
be you want to be the new chairman new chairman no he should know the answer by now it's usually somebody new came out on the board supposed to have a new member every year but the way it's working out it's not that way like I think you and I are
together right next year and these guys are together yeah year up 2026 so they're up next year you and I are up 2027 oh we're 27 it should be one every year that's the way it is that's supposed to be that's 75 years yeah but I don't know how that all messed up the
way it is probably your father messed it up yeah who know the clerk's office but I don't know you're supposed to have a new person every year well no you're supposed to reorganize yeah vote to see because we've done that each year oh I nominate
him to be the chairman for next year it's second by Mr here it's [Music] unanimous nominate nominate
me Ed by Jack V objected by oh no I'm not she's in Troublemaker okay we have we have a nomination for me to be continue with chairman we have a second any discussion no we have a go
ahead vote okay uh all those in favor I I I unanimous 301 yeah a tyrant G again I don't know how much longer I'm doing any of this stuff I'm gonna retire
in two years I much just disappear yeah what you think next time I don't know if I'll run I'll get reelected or be reappointed yeah I'm I'm I'm running out of time my f board's up in three years might be after me 20
years be long enough I've been teaching Sunday school for quite a while church at St Joseph this could be my swans on there too I'm doing two classes 8th and 10th grade and I don't mind the 10th grade the eth grade not
behav say that I mean I love what age did you teach when you taught English what what age group high school high school I taught everything from high school's better Middle School's got to be the worst right oh yeah I I have I have one at my house he's a
knucklehead when we when we did student teaching at everybody had to go to the Bridgewater Middle School and student teach we did twice junior year yeah went to the middle school and you had to teach every subject I had math social study science but you whatever your
major was you T for the whole 10 weeks so I had English for 10 weeks but every two weeks you rotated among these others so there I had seventh grade science sixth grade math eighth grade social studies like that that was only the time I ever dealt with Junior High and uh
sounds like a lot of extra work yeah oh was tough when hey I walked into the social studies class the teacher sitting there I said I'm your uh you know student teacher can't see the book he says they on chapter eight and leaves there is no way I would I would
counsel any of my kids teachers Miss this environment no way yeah and they had a meeting every week they would have meetings all all the student teachers with the mentor teachers yeah and they would go around the room and talk about each one and kind of like give you tips and talk about you and when I had a
sixth grade math class and the math instructor said Mr Valor runs a tight ship that was like there you go nice old school like like that we need more of that they sat like this the
whole class they sat like that with their hands Fen nice kid sixth grade fun but anyways so what's our thing we going to look at the minutes we look at the minutes next you guys want to look through them okay this is from the main first meeting
this is when we reviewed the uh the application right the meeting that we riew yes Y how did the words night girl great good yeah was your daughter did your daughter get a reward that night no not that night my daughter was
do yeah the year before yeah but it was nice a lot of her friends were there and uh that was your first meeting yeah when you first one when you went there when your daughter was there you came with me right yeah was that my f I think that was my second year you
sure because I didn't do it last year that's right you didn't do it I did it with Caroline did that go all right yeah yeah it went great good great yeah I knew you'd come to we did we did a good job might want to do it this year see
yeah it's nice to do you know well Emerson might put into this definitely K's oh yeah kayin she's a senior yeah it's nice to Caroline's daughter kayin Caroline's daughter oh
she's you're not supposed to know that what a nice kid we'll all have to you'll forget by the time she's a super star every time I go to stoping shop I see kids checking up the uh you in high school and I tell them about the I never heard of it you
live in Kingston yeah you did that to my kids because they worked up big why and they told me really I tell all young kids if they look like they're in high school I talk to them about they go really well I'm a junior but my sister's senior something
like that they say but I'm trying to promote it all the time coached and I told them to and they didn't even reply I told some of the girl friends you wonder why what is wrong with you I don't know because it's a good size it's the best a it's the
best it's pretty much the best award that's granted that way isn't it besides the there's one that's oh there's one now that's 10,000 what's that one it's the highest outside Kingston like it's a
it's it's a woman older woman that that's I think there was one even higher than that was like 40,000 a full boat and I think they gave two of them was that when we were there it wow there it
was a lot because we were both like how much total of like 40 go besides that I think Julie would have got it but as a to but as a total we give out the most money don't we they G away 40 well that sounds like
a one that was a one shot deal yeah that was a she was there last year was she she yeah she was there Year lady because Caroline couldn't believe it like way to your how much so her own
I think it is probably yeah there we go incredible huh that's fantastic yeah so anyways uh I move to accept the minutes second Okay g to move to except
the minutes from Ed we got a second the scene any discussion no no okay hearing no discussion all those in favor say I hi [Music]
hi do we know when the award nighton is I do that know very end of May right usually it's I think it's like May 29th 29th they kind of want gonna be a
Thursday they pushing pushing us to um have our decision meeting earlier oh yeah yeah well they wanted they wanted us to have all our information in on May 3d so we'll get to the dates in a minute so why don't we just hold off on that
all right through this so the next one is uh review the number and the amount of scholarships now we can't really do that at this meeting right we know the money we don't know the money yep but we can we don't need to be at a
meeting to know that you could ask him and you could get that number from him yourself I could yeah once we know like we always do yeah yeah so we don't need a meeting for that any one of us could find out what the number is have him do
and then um once then you know you can pass it on to us yeah and uh we'll know we'll know but before before we meet him there we'll know yeah definitely and U I can see why they would want to know because it was like the day before I
think it's because what because it's usually like in early June this year it's May 29th so it's almost like they moved it up yeah so maybe they're try to move everything up they they're asking for the applications to be back sooner too she gave me the dates yeah but they need to do some
paperwork too so I can see where they might want a little time that's not problem for us we can do it whatever true and I like the idea of giving the kids a little extra time I remember when my daughters were doing it it was all a crunch except for a couple you had some
extra time on and I like I like to have a little extra time on hour we can give it to them you know that might get more people in yeah yeah if they have to do them all at once they don't necessarily you know they might cut down and do five instead of 10
[Music] whatever it must so there must be a budget issue because um they cut our um extra person in the planning office she's only working like 10 hours a week but they whatever whatever they had aside like 10 or 20,000 they I heard
there's a yeah an issue with the school with the school budget oh they're meing tonight pretty B you know yeah Rose was talking about before I so was the problem with the schools never they always want to put it on schools all
right so it's predominant um you know recipient of our tax base the schools yeah y they don't value education I guess um we have a so what she's saying is March 1st April 11th is the
open scholarship time they want everybody to have an in by 11 now we've been usually giving them till mid mid right yeah like usually that that we give to like the Thursday or Wednesday of that vacation week yeah let's go to the end that we can go to if it's the
11th then let's go to the 11th I don't see why we have to go why we have to avide by the 11 they want I I well she would like to have the decision by May 2nd now if you look at the calendar uh so vacation week is going to be the 20th to the 25th I think right
April uh vacation week yeah so may you know May 3rd is like a May 3rd is a Saturday
weird May 1 it May 1 and May 3rd know it's it's usually the Thursday May 2nd so Friday she wanted in by Friday of May oh Friday second so we might have to meet like in April 30th or something this year M to
uh why don't you talk to Caroline see how much time she's the one who does all the Computing well we we we should we should set we probably need to set a date um so may if we meet on May 30 make the decision then all we all we're doing at that point is sending an email to Judy
saying these are the these are the people so I think what do you do that is Caroline I usually well I think she'll put the email together and then I I send it out or something like that so I kept just have the list of names and I send
it over to her yeah or she asked me for my approval say we both kind of go back for Mi mistakes and then we send it off Caroline might send it to Judy so Judy will have it on the on May 1 May 2nd at the latest so we can meet the deadline
if we we we had our meeting on either the 29th to 30th of April which is like I said it's a little bit earlier than we normally even though we been doing it like May 2nd and May 3rd but the way the weeks fall yeah that's fine yeah that's that work you think
Thursday the 29th is a mon as a Tuesday we gonna meet on a Thursday is that our meet night no usually usually we've been meeting on Wednesday since like right I never remember sure okay would be there yeah I think I
think Wednesday at the latest if you wanted to do Tuesday be look to that too um Wednesday work so put them April 30th at 7 hopefully in this room to make the
decision okay all right so due April 31st so we want to have are you locking down these dates right now we want to have or you proposing dates I'm proposing dates I'm going to say like um that all the applications should be in
by close the business on Thursday April 24th that will give Caroline or I one two three four five six days to make copies and make a spreadsheet or whatever we need to do I think that's pretty fair that's really up to her she
she runs them to us you got right get she ran them to my house that that's I can come to you that was you that was me yeah I can come to you nobody answered so just yeah my house yeah yeah I can
come get them from be in by April 24th submitted they have to be by 5 o'clock whatever it is to close the go to business they have to be turned into that closes school they have to be
turned Town Hall Town Hall don't think have to go to the clerk's office is that they turn them in I don't I'm Prett sure takes them right I'm pretty sure uh yeah Paul Paul's office I think the clerk's office they that's where they turn them
in they close at 4:30 G stamp them I have no idea when do they close I think they close at 4:30 probably yeah 8:30 4:30 but maybe 4:30 so if we get them if they turn them in on the 24th we're going to meet on the 30th
yeah when so when do you think would we get them on like by Monday to we're going to read them all over yeah okay I mean you can if you want I mean how much work you guys do in advance well usually we all read them
ahead of time because I Tred to if we have one person sit there and read them all after we've all read them we'll have to kill [Music] that yeah okay yeah all right so um so April
24 and still rules fist even this been retired for years April April 30th must Edge no and we'll try to get physical copies
to you a couple days before the meeting yeah so April 30th will decide that's our meeting to the side y y so same that time same that you 7 o'clock 7 o'cl y so and uh yeah so that should work out fine
yeah and when does when does the high school want to know the answers May 2nd yeah so that's fine May gives him a few days may we we'll we'll be telling you the next day so telling on May 1 yeah
all right so that's all the dates I don't think we're going to make any changes to the application right everyone's pretty happy with it fine yeah so we know the next meeting date is going to be April 30th 7M yep I'll set
that all up to the Cod and you you'll find out from the treasur how much you'll have to spend before and you'll let us know right frustrating deal again because that way when we can we'll have to decide how many awards we're going to give so we'll
need to know that number yeah you know and U but that always depends on how many U applications there are I think what if we keep a advertising and get more and more applications we're going to have to
probably decide it's going to be 10 kids or 15 kids which wouldve been lucky we haven't had to do but we might be able to do bigger Awards too if we do that depending on what he says the number is because that number is really out for
lunch we don't know 90,000 or 30,000 we don't know right yeah and uh is it has it buried that much what well we thought we had 990,000 right when year that was the year when they I found out the night
of the thing we've over spent and Bas no one seems to know what's going well I I know the way it was is whoever the treasurer was what was his name before M know that
nice something like was it Ken something another whoever it was I know you're talking and I met with him and what he did was um he had two he had to fund which was the principal and the
interest was a separate entity and we never we never spend all the interest so that carries over and bills and so that particular year he said that there was 90 like $93,000 in
interest but then the the new Treasurer said no that's not right and we couldn't spend because we said about 93,000 we well let's give more money and all plenty of money we didn't come close to spending it probably spend a third like
30 yeah like 30 out of the 90 and we thought we're sitting fat and happy and then all a sudden he says we over spent because he was the new Treasurer said he just took that Year's interest and he said that's the Expendable amount not the
amount we used so there's the there's the R so that's it so they have to decide is it the acrude amount or is it the yearly amount and when they figure that out and that's what he would have
come to tell us today hopefully but so tell me like before I've only I've been on this Bo now 10 years before it was my dad okay back when you you know before I was on the board how do they look at it like but why was it always 10 $1,000
Awards I don't know I 10 kids yeah and then all of a sudden the money started to be the interest rates went up we had more money said well let's make it 12 1200 and we started creeping up I was on before then right so we just started
creeping it up my my opinion is that our job isn't to hold on to this money and build and build it into this you know what you call like an endowment we're not creating an endowment we're here to disperse as much of this money as we can yeah but we also
have I mean I also think you know there might be in for some lean times you know talking about the next 10 years that we really need you know we don't want to get into a situation where we can't give out any either but I think if we have all this acude interest sitting there yeah to me that's money that could
be spent in lean times right you know we don't want to we I think we're obligated not to touch the principle right we can't we never have we never and U why why are we PR you shouldn't be prating an ow I don't know how you guys feel
about it but no that yeah that's why we've been increasing it every year it would be good to know the in the annual interest from year to year how much it's changed or how consistent it's been because the principles don't change right never seem they stay the same
right they adding to adding to the principles are they yeah they are someone donates well I think that that ACR interest can then then ACR interest right but my question is if like are we seeing 30 30 32 33 31 or we say that
annual interest and then a 50 no probably not people donate $20,000 uh Highway superintendent the Caden heads all since I've been on I've donated $20,000 for the fund so it's
building anybody in need memory well the Caden heads is 20,000 that was still yeah they've been gone a while yeah and um and the highway superintendent still long I'm talking about last 10 years I don't think
anybody's you know donations yeah Ken had was went that long ago 20 or 30 years ago no no because I haven't been on this kind of thing that long no it's when Harley died that's when she gave the thing in his name it's been a while
not 20 I've been on the board for 10 years he's been theread long before that so I mean maybe 10 years never know stuff like that time kind of like slips away from you you know I I had some shingles I was going to shingle with poed and I said
I've got some I've had for had them for five or six years then my daughter came in with a picture of my youngest grandson when he was five sitting on the pile of shingles I I guess I've had him a lot longer yeah I never know because I live by today but days go on I forget it you
know crazy so but I didn't think how was gone that long see if I can find this m see how is she going she did she died in
2014 10 11 years ago years ago she was 11 years ago years 11 years yeah 11 years yeah and she came to the first one I remember when I made the presentation when kie kie thing was there she was
there at the meeting to see how it went and everything yeah so God I've been on it for a long time too can't remember I can't believe I've been on it for 10 years I know I don't the first year I was on it was the Year Jenny got the Lord right Jenny was class 15 so that
was my first year 10 years now be my 11th yeah yeah I don't [Music] know maybe when I die I'll need some money too I don't know see how long does
it take him to figure out how much money is it it sounds like it's just a problem for him to figure out how much money we have I don't understand yeah it's not just him hike yeah that's the guy's name Pike yeah I don't know who was there before him oh I don't know they ever get
any good numbers the last person I really felt confident C Le leash was the one guy I felt he knew fck yeah he was an accountant he was that by actually had okay he wasn't an elected person who
didn't have any accounting but it shouldn't be a problem I mean he's got the books he should be able to look and say this is the fund it's around 650,000 somewhere in there yeah and this is the interest in two different and that should be easy to say well you
got this but then it's the is it just the shees or is it theud that's the rub right there so when they figure that out then we'll know yeah and the other thing I wanted to ask is is is it being advertised anywhere else is it on all
things Kingston we have a we have a town website right nobody ever does anything on social media well we've never done anything why isn't it on Facebook well the kids don't go on Facebook par some parents are but the so is it just Word
of Mouth then other than high other than Silver Lake it's on the website at Silver Lake but we get kids from outside you know BC R whatever Cardinal Spellman used to be Sacred Heart yeah so how do they find
out I wonder if they post on their sure guidance people post it it should be it should be on there we have a lot of PR School I mean we we could send out an email to all the GU guidance departments we probably do I mean or did I mean I
don't how else would they know but because we've we've given Awards to kids from C so they knew yeah that's right I would think [Music]
they there's no social media that the town has where this would be advertised anded I don't do social media I have no idea why don't you put it on the website town website and uh I don't know because
they hav't lied it's like all things p and people go on there and yeah they look at that stff like like three different Kingston Facebook pages with [Music] various be fre you want to stay off
would you want to stay oh awful yeah it's yeah the website well yeah the town has a uh the town has a Facebook page yeah but who who puts the stuff on I believe it's uh through the um the select's
office select's office I believe so then maybe check with her and see if Trish Tucker any we can put an ad in what they do that be do that I'll send an email to Trish Tucker
yeah okay and yeah yeah research that a little bit and uh because then we can get some free but I mean this guy the Kingston living I mean he's given us half price ads if we want them so once he's mad at us we not giv it to him the
first time I don't knowbly think I'm an idiot I'm sadly mistaken did I tell you I had a couple of Falls this year you said I Ted you one time and you said in April I had a fall oh B but in September I went down
ins set of stairs in my house head first oh no inside I got some of I was lucky what happened I'm healing up good did you slip well it was a stoping
shop I had tote bags which I usually to get but I brought them and they filled one too heavy was all the cans they put it in one I think the kid was trying to save me a dime for the bag he was probably trying to do me a favor but he made it real heavy I had use two hands
cared it so and when I go to my house it's a split level I have jail lifts to go up and down so I I use it to bring the groceries up so I was standing in the doorway and I swung that up to put it on the chair lift to go up and it was
so heavy and I'm so weak now I didn't quite make it half on and half off and it slipped off and it put my momentum this way and I went Zoom right down the stairway going head first us down went the other way the basement went right down to the
basement and fetched up down there and I had luckily I had my phone with me and I called 911 the emps came right both times they had to come get me and I couldn't move yeah and so they took me through the hospital CAT scans hit your
head a and not really it was mostly because I kept my head up I did have a little scrape on my nose on the last one but the first one I went straight over the back was some whiplashed you know and my neck was sore but um the I
couldn't move I really sprained my back right along the Belt Line and I never had a bad back even though I've done a lot of heavy lifting but since those Falls I have a I've gone to rehab and doing exercises for that and it's it
only hurts in transition like I lay down in bed it hurts for a bit minute then when I get out I have one of those like ladder things that fits between the mattress to help me get out of bed I grab that and put when I do that it hurts like crazy till I stand up once I
stand up I'm good I can walk a few steps and then I'm okay like just sitting here it doesn't work so you had like that kind of like house where like zero steps would that make your life look so much better yeah kind you don't even you just walk right in from the driveway right in I should say
I sell my house and move to Kentucky or something where you could afford something like that yeah in Kingston you can't afford to my neighbor sold his my very next door neighbor yeah and I never thought he
would but he put it on the mark no not Bon before this is John PS on the other side and he put it for $699 sold it in two days of 725 wow you imagine that so it's crazy
in this town how long ago was that recent yeah it just round just before Christmas wait till people start putting all these um isn't that a Dem you could just basically they could be popping up all in Indian Pond really they they bu right
too yeah if you got a garage you can for an the are you g to do some of those or you think that bid some yeah yeah we've been doing we've always done in-laws for new houses you know you get we buil so we're home builders yeah
apartment with r right but there's rules with the adus the rules no more than 900 sareet yeah no more than 900 it's 900 you can only get n it's 50% of the square footage living space in
your house or a maximum of 900 so if you have a split that's 1300 S feet you get 650 Max my house is 5500 Square ft it's 92 ft long but it still be 00 s ft Max
on if you were going to do an so my bar upstairs is 24 by 40 so we're right in there I could probably put I've got an in apartment on the first floor I that's all legal and everything because the the rule on that
is it has to be connected to the main house you got to be able to go from the house to the apartment indoors it can be detached yeah that's they can be detached and it has to be one meter like the one I built I pay for the electricity I pay for everything because
I have all it's all on my meter so that inlaw it's really just an extension of my house but where this is separate it can be separate it's separate and it does not have to comply with zoning that's a ridic unless they have rules in place unless like a town could put rules
in place think but I don't understand most towns don't have them yet because it's a new law see one of one of the unit has to be over occupied but that's not the case every town not with adus they don't have to be they don't want they don't have to be
they don't have to be own or occupied one of them one of them has one of them Kingston they do but I heard but you don't have to be related I heard the state is think requiring that in all cases so if we change we could change the B to loosen that but then can turn
into the wild wild west you know yeah could anyway you know it's I I think it's a k of worms really yeah think be dad it'll take a while we've never on the planning board we've never denied any any competion but they've all been pretty reasonable the only only one that
was unreasonable I voted no but then she came back with a modified plan we improved it yeah so all the years I've been on the plan of board for what 17 years never turned one down but now I think we're going to see a lot more of them because the house the
housing situation has got so bad yeah it's going to be but still expensive put at ad cost 150 Grand or more right y you know the price there I know my D put an addition on it probably cost them 140 that was 15 years ago yeah we're doing
one right now it's 300 300 W it's just a 600 s foot really yeah cost ridiculous yeah hous to buy a house
I don't understand how we got here like I bought my house like only 13 years ago and it was like two 250 yeah and that was like worth like $700,000 make any sense make any sense yeah taxes could give a house away in
2011 the reason why we the reason why we're here is because you know as a planning board member how long it takes to get any housing approved yeah you want to build a subdivision I go buy a piece of land over here raw land and I want to go to the planning
board to get approvals for a subdivision I could be looking at two years before I get approvals so there are too many regulations she can't get it it's a catch 22 you need the housing but nobody wants the housing in their Town everyone wants to close the door behind them you
know yes exactly I'm here low income that chapter 40 40b 40 it's not that's not low income it's affordable it's it's 80% of the and that's of the neighborhood so if you're building a
house in IND upon the states what's 80% of a house prob there that's not affordable a lot of that's not affordable like you know we we actually did the thing with Peter opinsky where we let him buy three older houses in town and we have them
those is his is his uh affordables to me that's more affordable you put him in a house that's reasonably sized it doesn't cost us much of that person can maintain it yeah building a house in Tall Timber isn't going to be affordable for anybody you know
[Music] nowadays million million bucks nowadays for decent size house all right well we should probably like end the meeting and take all that talk offline one thing I found out about health insurance if if
they um say that the replace if they say the replacement cost of your house is over a million dollars It Go like that I had I was paying like 2,800 bucks for house insurance and then they said that the replacement cost what my insurance
company that I had at the time was a million two and it went from like 2,800 to 45 and so I went through three different insurance companies one after the other and finally I got one that's that
actually lowered my thoughts a little bit but um this year I figured we're going to get nailed again because of all the floods and all the different things we're paying for the south in the west we pay for all that c so it went up
about $500 I just got it two days ago and so now um I think it was but it still wasn't too bad it went up to like about 2800 from 24 to 28 I wish I was pay but then I Stumble that but then I
got the cars but I got two cars on there so it's 4, 455 what had to put cars on the house still a lot but the town 9,000 that's what my taxes on 9,000 for
a raised Ranch on bro Street that's ridiculous you know and if you live on on a pension and the town says yeah give me 9,000 of that boot
yeah well anyways move to a Jour way have a motion to adjourn second motion second second this is there's no cannot discuss it so