WEBVTT METADATA Video-Count: 2 Video-1: youtube.com/watch?v=GCEko5l_DIQ Video-2: youtube.com/watch?v=JzLRPlgy0EU NOTE MEETING SECTIONS: Part 1 (Video ID: GCEko5l_DIQ): - 00:00:00: Meeting Called to Order: Introductions and Eagle Scout Project - 00:04:33: Project Funding, Local Support, and Timeline Discussion - 00:06:26: Project Timeline Discussion with the Tricentennial Anniversary - 00:08:30: Project Scope: Cleanup Details, Raking, Tree Removal - 00:11:48: Requesting Sketches and Plans, Boy Scout Collaboration - 00:12:38: Community Input: Volunteer Support for the Project - 00:13:30: Contact Information and Project Finalization Discussion - 00:14:51: Project Recap, Memorial Design, Meeting Room Conflict - 00:15:51: Minutes Approval, Budget Review, and Old Business - 00:21:51: Demolition Permit Review: Nine Pebbles Lane Discussion - 00:27:36: Motion to Approve Demolition of Nine Pebbles Lane - 00:28:44: Demolition Permit: Five Reed Street House Fire Damage - 00:31:14: New Demo Permit & Elm Street Cow Path Inquiry - 00:34:44: Cow Path Research, Stump Removal Cost Discussion - 00:36:51: Chair Retirement, Historic Presentations, Anniversary Committee - 00:40:10: Seeking New Members, Chairing, and Leadership Transition - 00:44:02: The 300th Book Sales & Bradford House Time Capsule - 00:46:50: Preservation Restriction and Bradford House Plowing Discussion - 00:50:09: Adjournment Part 2 (Video ID: JzLRPlgy0EU): - 00:00:05: Sewer Commissioners Meeting: Agenda and Meeting Minutes - 00:00:40: Superintendent Update: Sludge Contracts and Highway Project - 00:02:34: Mass Highway Project: New Sewer Line Installation Opportunity - 00:04:36: Motions to Authorize Superintendent and Purchase Materials - 00:06:28: Rocky North Pump Station Cleanout and Maintenance Update - 00:07:47: Staffing Update: Light Duty and Administrative Assistant - 00:11:21: Office Rearrangement, June 9th Meeting, Town Meeting Update - 00:15:15: Town Budget and Superintendent/Office Manager Updates - 00:16:43: Quarterly Building Report and Expansion Inquiries - 00:18:04: Clarifying Expansion Plans and Sewer Hookup Interest - 00:19:25: First Graders Field Trip and Financials for Developer - 00:21:54: Miramar Project Contract and Contract Services - 00:23:36: Pump Station Responsibility and Water Meter Discussions - 00:25:30: Miramar Contract and Bill Watson Acknowledgment - 00:27:45: Motion to Adjourn the Commissioners Meeting Part: 1 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:38.800 --------- Anyways, well, we will start although this is item we just got items item seven there. We'll uh start tonight you guys if you'd like to we get out of here. >> Although we do have some deleting 2 00:00:38.800 --> 00:00:58.800 discussions. Yeah, supper sounds pretty good to me though. >> Yeah, it's true. But >> okay, very good. What was your name again? >> Uh, I'm Declan. Declan Mangan. >> Dean. Declan. >> Yeah, Dean. >> Okay. Nice to meet you. I'm Craig 3 00:00:58.800 --> 00:01:14.560 Dalton, the chair. We're going to call this meeting to order at 6:34 and um on May the 19th 19 >> 19th 2006 and president of myself chair Jim McKenna >> Lyn Carrera >> Ken Brack. 4 00:01:14.560 --> 00:01:31.439 >> Okay. He's secretarian members of the historical commission here tonight. So tell us what brings you here tonight. Um, I'm here to uh discuss uh the my upcoming Eagle project, which is um 5 00:01:31.439 --> 00:01:48.799 hopefully going to be uh cleaning out uh the and renovating the old town burial grounds. So like the cemetery. Um we're going to uh organize the troop to pick up all of 6 00:01:48.799 --> 00:02:04.880 the debris and sticks that are currently scattered around the cemetery. Then we're going to try and landscape around the new monument that's going to be constructed for the Civil War hero. And um hopefully beautify the space with 7 00:02:04.880 --> 00:02:21.760 like a maybe a walkway up to it. And then we're going to install a reflection bench at the flag pole which is near the back of the cemetery. >> Oh, good. >> Oh, that sounds lovely. >> What's um I may want to touch on this then. the Civil War uh memorial. 8 00:02:21.760 --> 00:02:37.840 >> The Revolutionary War. >> Oh. Oh, right. Oh, right. Shoot. That's my >> There is a Civil War, but the Revolutionary one was It was going to be like a little like a stone, wasn't there? >> Mr. Bartlett. Um Yeah. He was stone, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. 9 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:53.440 >> I'm sorry. I babysat him. So, it's so funny to hear him called Mr. Bartlett. >> Yeah. So, that is going to go. Do you have plans for that or a layout for that? that I didn't see anything from John >> um for the the landscaping 10 00:02:53.440 --> 00:03:10.319 >> for the landscaping around the revolutionary soldiers monument. We weren't planning on making the the landscaping very big, so it would hopefully just be like maybe like just just like um trying to think of like the 11 00:03:10.319 --> 00:03:26.480 size, but I I want it to like not be like maybe a little less than double the size of the the Civil War memorial. >> Civil War Memorial. My god, I keep messingize the actual stone. 12 00:03:26.480 --> 00:03:41.760 >> Yeah, >> you're saying >> what materials for landscaping? What What are you thinking of putting around it? You know, a walkway as well. >> Like perennials and for like the flowers and like mulch, >> that sort of thing. 13 00:03:41.760 --> 00:04:00.159 >> Nice. >> And will it be a walk? I don't even know where it's going to be. Do you know it's going to be? No. >> You guys have a a layout? Sean's been keeping stuff. Hold on. >> Somewhat unused veterans 14 00:04:00.159 --> 00:04:16.360 >> section right where the flag was. Is that >> so on the main street side of the town? >> Yeah, I think it's on the street. >> It's not back there. Yeah, >> I know. We did talk. 15 00:04:16.560 --> 00:04:33.040 Where are the coming from the >> This is the general area. >> It if as you can see the roads right here and then there's a building to like the right side of it. >> Take a look at them. >> Are you going to have Yeah, it's the front corner of the uh 16 00:04:33.040 --> 00:04:46.479 >> Yeah, that >> we were thinking maybe in between those two trees. >> Okay, >> how about the fun? >> Uh the funding um we were thinking that it would around about 17 00:04:46.479 --> 00:05:04.320 like a little maybe a bit over $600. >> So that's like that's overall like planning wise, but there's obviously more that we have to account for. We haven't fully fleshed out the details of all the costs. 18 00:05:04.320 --> 00:05:20.639 >> So the question was really where is the funding coming from? >> Right. Um I haven't sorted that out. That's always a big question at any uh any meeting like this is everybody's always trying to figure out how do we fund something like this. 19 00:05:20.639 --> 00:05:34.639 >> Yeah, it's not sorted but it's our responsibility. So, we will self-fund and do fundraising friends and family or figure out something else out. That'll be up to >> great. 20 00:05:34.639 --> 00:05:51.440 >> You're aware of the um the Boy Scout uh Margarita Bone has the account they have to find stuff for the Boy Scout troops, whatever. Okay. >> The other thing too is the Kingston Garden Club. I know they do their plant sales. they might be willing to donate 21 00:05:51.440 --> 00:06:09.440 the um a couple of the plants to put into the landscaping. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> We have some as well of other local box that uh donate uh mulch for example for uh the monument of 22 00:06:09.440 --> 00:06:26.479 >> Oh yes. >> Yeah. >> donations. >> Are you one of the title masters? >> Um I am the secretary on the committee. Oh, okay. Troop 49 committee. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> Yeah. And both my sons went through 440 23 00:06:26.479 --> 00:06:42.319 Eagle Scout. So, >> you've been through this >> before. What's that? >> You've been through this before. >> A little bit. A little bit. So, a long time ago, though. So, what's the timeline for this thing? When we looking at completing the project, starting the 24 00:06:42.319 --> 00:06:58.880 project? Uh we were thinking about completing it by um we we would start by 66 probably and then >> by what? Sorry. >> Um >> I didn't hear what you said. That's all. 25 00:06:58.880 --> 00:07:22.199 >> Oh, it's okay. I have like um we wanted to have it done by um the by the tricentennial like the 300th anniversary of Kingston. So >> and that date is what? >> Uh 10426. 26 00:07:24.479 --> 00:07:40.479 >> That's okay. Well, whatever. It doesn't make me happy. >> I feel like we're going to get into the actually be really helpful for us to know >> to help. Well, some some dates um do you know of um on June 27th is proclamation 27 00:07:40.479 --> 00:07:55.840 when proclam is proclamation day excuse me that is celebration of the date 300th anniversary of the town's incorporation although the actual date is believed to be June 16th but but the 7 excuse me the 27th is the day of the town celebrating 28 00:07:55.840 --> 00:08:13.840 it and the um for revolutionary war monument will be dedicated at the town green so that if you didn't know about that Okay. Sorry. >> So, that monument's going to be in by then. >> I don't know. >> War is going to be dedicated in June. 29 00:08:13.840 --> 00:08:30.160 >> Well, that would that would that would be >> Yeah. >> Well, I mean, the monument has to be there, right? >> Yeah. >> Right. >> I'm just I must be out. >> You think it'd be in place? I'm >> sorry. >> No, I'm not. >> No, it's probably on the >> That's a great idea and a great project. 30 00:08:30.160 --> 00:08:46.000 Yeah. I'm just trying to get my head around when it's gonna happen and where it's so >> What part comes first? >> Uh the cleanup comes first. >> Okay, that's an important part. >> Yeah, because um we we obviously want to get the space like ready for that 31 00:08:46.000 --> 00:09:01.760 timeline. >> So, it's going your monument is going to be on the green. >> Uh it's or this monument, but yeah. >> Right. But the one you're going to uh I got a frog in my toy. starts, right? 32 00:09:01.760 --> 00:09:17.680 Um, but you're talking about picking up the cemetery and raking the cemetery up, picking up sticks and all that, which is great. It's a big It's a big area. >> So, when were you looking to do that? >> I'm I'm thinking we can get that done by 33 00:09:17.680 --> 00:09:34.160 66 maybe. >> And done by that date, do you think? That weekend uh is free for the troop. >> Which weekend? Six. >> The weekend is six. >> Okay, great. >> And would you guys be I know there's a 34 00:09:34.160 --> 00:09:50.560 lot of sticks to pick up, but would you be doing some raking as well? >> Uh if that if you would like us to do raking, we will do raking. >> What would we have to do with plastic rakes though? Have to do >> Excuse me. I get water. 35 00:09:50.560 --> 00:10:05.519 Uh, how many how many troop members will be involved? Clean up day. We think >> we said around 6 to 12. >> Yes, that's that's fair. And we'll have some adults as well. There's a there's a 36 00:10:05.519 --> 00:10:22.560 tree in the woods too as well that um has fallen over and it's a bit of an isore. It's by the uh by the flag. So, uh we'll need a little chainsaw work there, too. Not that boy scouts would do that, but parents 37 00:10:22.560 --> 00:10:37.600 >> now are are you thinking of um removing it the same day or have a pile for later or piles? >> Yeah, we would have to work out the details. Mr. Bartlett said that um I should probably contact him to get into 38 00:10:37.600 --> 00:10:54.000 contact with the highway commission to remove any of the debris. >> That would be great. >> Yep. >> Yeah. Yeah. So the the 27 at 100 p.m. >> What's that? >> The dedication. >> Oh, 39 00:10:54.000 --> 00:11:14.320 >> June 27. >> Yeah. >> All right. And think the landscape will be done by then too or that's the plan. >> Yeah, we Yes. >> Okay. And the date for the uh breaking region 6. And is Scott and Barl going to 40 00:11:14.320 --> 00:11:30.560 be kind of coordinating that with us? >> Hopefully. >> Great. Great. How many people do you have in your group that's going to be helping you out? >> Uh yeah, we said um six to 12. >> Really? Okay. That's going to be a lot 41 00:11:30.560 --> 00:11:48.079 of work for you guys, but we can um probably have some people that'll be able to help, too. We'll see what we can. >> Yeah. All right. I should be able to >> I was just gonna say so as soon as you 42 00:11:48.079 --> 00:12:03.040 can if you can kind of get us a sketch, just send us a sketch or um of how you plan to have this cap for plans for the uh you know the dawn or whatever >> landscaping. 43 00:12:03.040 --> 00:12:20.320 >> Landscaping. Thanks. Okay. Um so we can have an idea about that. But and when you finalize the location there with John Okay, while we're there, you let us know about that, too. Be great. We have a mailbox here. You just 44 00:12:20.320 --> 00:12:37.480 drop in the historical commission mailbox. Be um it's right down in the office down there. >> Hi, this is the Democrat town meeting. >> No, it's I bet you they're over there. This historical commission. >> Thank you. >> Yeah. 45 00:12:38.959 --> 00:12:56.480 >> Well, that's very good. Excellent. We've been waiting to have someone do this for quite a while. So, that'd be great if you critical. Have you talked to any Well, I don't know if you want to if there are any other troops around or any might work with someone else on this too, but Girl Scouts may even be around 46 00:12:56.480 --> 00:13:14.560 that might be able to provide a few more people to pick up stuff >> or National Honor Society always looking for volunteer events too. That could be >> That's right. Student time, right? Help. Yeah. Light. Many hands make light work. Well, that's great. Very good. 47 00:13:14.560 --> 00:13:30.880 Appreciate you coming to us. Do you have more questions, Ken? >> No, thanks for taking the initiative and um look forward to it. >> Would you guys like Declan's email address? Um in case you want to reach out anything changes, of course, we're in touch with Mr. Bartlett as well. 48 00:13:30.880 --> 00:13:47.600 >> It's Declan Langangmail.com. >> All right. You have to spell that one for me. Okay. D E C L A N L. >> Yeah. >> M A N G A N. 49 00:13:47.600 --> 00:14:03.760 >> Gmail.com. >> Great. >> Get that. >> I did. >> Great. >> Okay. >> Right. Thanks for having us. >> No. >> Is your email working? I think we got something to do with the other. 50 00:14:03.760 --> 00:14:19.920 >> I think so. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, but I can't remember. They're just KHC, I think it is. >> Yes. >> Yeah. >> Uh, KHC at Kingston. >> Yeah. Kingston.org. Kingston. 51 00:14:19.920 --> 00:14:35.440 >> Yeah. Kingston. >> I think it's Gov, isn't it? Kingston. You're right. >> We got to check. >> How do you use it? You know what? I got something else here. >> Figure it out. 52 00:14:35.440 --> 00:14:51.519 It's Kingston Ma.gov. >> Very good. >> Pen to a few. >> Uh, capitalization doesn't matter, right? >> Yeah. >> Thank you, Dean. Excellent. >> Thank you. >> Thank you very much. 53 00:14:51.519 --> 00:15:19.440 >> Thank you guys for having me. a lot of sticks over there, huh? >> Yeah, I had heard the final. We did hear about what the the thing was going to be like kind of >> as far as what the mon be like. I guess they haven't kind of finalized the 54 00:15:19.440 --> 00:15:35.040 position of it over there, >> but when it actually arrives, I didn't. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> He did mention walkway. We didn't follow up on that, but probably doesn't need a walkway over to it. Do you think there's no 55 00:15:35.040 --> 00:15:51.440 walkway to the Civil War one? >> Yeah. >> And you probably don't want to go digging around in there. >> I don't know if it was going to be a walkway to it or like kind of vision around it or something. I don't know. >> Sketches it out. 56 00:15:51.440 --> 00:16:17.120 >> All right. Um, yeah, don't mind. I just want to take a second to hold these here. Um, yeah, long ones too. >> I couldn't download things. So, >> while you're reading it, I had I had a question, not to change the the record, 57 00:16:17.120 --> 00:16:34.959 but um May 5th, if if the student event that was being planned that Tom was if that ever happened. I didn't know. >> Yeah, >> we don't know. We didn't hear back from her on that. >> It kind of uh there was never any final determination of how or when they were 58 00:16:34.959 --> 00:16:50.240 going to get over there. So it fell through and I don't know if she went anywhere else with it that day, you know, as far as the town hall, the police station or whatever. >> A third a third grade group was supposed to go to the Bradford house today that 59 00:16:50.240 --> 00:17:06.240 Carol Anderson had arranged >> and they did some draw the students did some drawings that were displayed there, but I don't it wasn't, you know, anything like the tour. Yeah. >> That was being planned. But 60 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:41.919 Um, sorry. You guys all read these? >> Yeah. >> Well, I know you did. >> Yes. There. Yep. I was just thinking it would be really fun to like dress up in the time period 61 00:17:41.919 --> 00:17:57.200 clothing, you know, for the event or whatever. And I was like the end of June and like nine skirts or shirts, >> a hat, boots, but like >> heavy wool and 62 00:17:57.200 --> 00:18:16.960 >> like never mind. Should have founded the town in November. I wanted that um because when I went um to Portugal last year, they had um they they're doing it um in the US now too, but it's like a motorcycle ride for 63 00:18:16.960 --> 00:18:30.799 cancer, >> but it's like a lot of these like classic bikes, but then everybody like that's doing it dresses up in like a 1920s sort of motorcycle with like the goggles. Yeah. Okay. 64 00:18:30.799 --> 00:18:47.840 >> And it was such a fun like event to kind of like just go see. It reminded me of the people standing in front of um to Is that Taurus? What used to be Tourists on the wall over there. 65 00:18:47.840 --> 00:19:09.760 >> But it just reminded me they all look so dapper. >> Yeah. Yeah. I know. Even in like everyday circumstance. >> Yeah. Right. There was mention of having some reenactors at the Bradford House would be the old not the old day but the house 66 00:19:09.760 --> 00:19:26.640 tours which I think is October 4th. I'm not sure if that's >> actually happening but >> that's much more appropriate. >> Yeah. >> Wearing pilgrim clothing. >> All right. So we need to uh have a motion pass minutes as written. 67 00:19:26.640 --> 00:19:42.640 So people >> I'll make a motion to pass the minutes and stuff. >> I'll second the motion. >> Do you know how long you're going to be here? >> Um >> I want to interrupt, but we have this meeting this room scheduled at 7. >> Really? 68 00:19:42.640 --> 00:20:00.160 >> Oh, we're 6:30 to 8:30, but we >> we're probably not going to be here more than half an hour. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> We'll try to hurry up. What do you >> Sorry. What? What's your meeting? >> Huh? >> What's your meeting? >> King Democratic Town Committee. >> Oh, you don't have a room? 69 00:20:00.160 --> 00:20:15.760 >> We can We get this from the third Tuesday of every month. >> Oh, yeah. I don't know. Um I'm sorry. We'll be We'll try to get >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> That's weird, huh? 70 00:20:15.760 --> 00:20:30.559 >> Yeah. >> We We both got the from >> Right. She even told us this one. Yeah. >> 101. >> Yeah. >> And that's busy, too. I saw coming. >> Yeah, I saw that, too. >> Okay. Well, we'll go through this quick. 71 00:20:30.559 --> 00:20:45.760 Uh, take a vote. All in favor? >> I >> unanimous. That's passed there. Don't have any bills yet. Mail, email, we'll talk about briefly. It comes up under new business, which we actually it's un 72 00:20:45.760 --> 00:21:01.440 business not known before this meeting. Fiscia 26 expenses. There was some items on here that we were talking about buying before um at the last meeting before I uh you know 73 00:21:01.440 --> 00:21:18.960 budget goes out. Did I tell you how much was in left in our account last time? I was trying to get a statement. >> You did? >> Yeah, I don't see it on here, but um I think it's still a substantial amount and we got to get an exact amount. But 74 00:21:18.960 --> 00:21:34.960 shall we have John go ahead? I thought we're gonna have John go ahead and order that the cleaning supplies for us. >> Yes. >> And go from there. So, we've got to get that order in so that next meeting we can group it. I got to get an exact 75 00:21:34.960 --> 00:21:51.360 amount that we have so we don't spend. So, that's I got to do. I have to check that. >> Um, mail, like I said, no males expenses. That's going to be it. I don't know what our budget is this year. Next year, it kind of is up to fate. We have 76 00:21:51.360 --> 00:22:07.840 a couple demolition permits coming up. Um I sent out information you guys about it. There's one that's been on We got at the end of last month basically. That's nine Pebbles Lane. Did anybody have a chance to go look? 77 00:22:07.840 --> 00:22:24.000 >> I didn't. I didn't >> see the pictures. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Um, this is I think this is related to uh that area down there by the Hollands Holland boys there. Uh, there's a house that's right on the 78 00:22:24.000 --> 00:22:41.120 water that we went, you guys didn't, but I did many years ago. Went out to look at that the foundation I think is still there that was blocking the view of this. There was some situation. Anyway, there's an old house and um but it's the 79 00:22:41.120 --> 00:22:57.840 inner side looks original, but it's been built all around. There's pictures if you want. I sent the pictures out to you. But they propose they're going to build a house right on the water. I mean, the view there is dynamite. Look at all the windows in that house. >> Wow. 80 00:22:57.840 --> 00:23:12.080 >> Yeah. >> Wow. That's going to fit right into the neighborhood. Well, the neighborhood >> um >> thing is the neighborhood down there is kind of 81 00:23:12.080 --> 00:23:28.960 that house there. The remaining house is kind of out by itself. You drove through, you'd see a lot of new stuff there. They just tear down the old double the size of everything, >> put it up. >> But I mean that house is modified. They yell at you for driving 82 00:23:28.960 --> 00:23:46.799 on the street if they own it. >> Yeah, that's been so modified. >> It's kind of interesting. >> I bet you're not getting one of those floor plans anywhere else. >> That's for sure. 83 00:23:46.799 --> 00:24:06.240 >> Are there any features of it that are um I don't know. >> Oh, wow. >> Typical of cottages on the nook. Is there anything, you know, historical Democratic? >> Yeah. >> Um, they're going to be here in a little while. I think 84 00:24:06.240 --> 00:24:22.720 >> they have this room in a little bit, but we're >> Okay. >> There's a overlap. >> Um, >> that's so >> only this roof line here. Remember, that kind of matches some of the other houses that were down there, but you can see the new houses that have been built 85 00:24:22.720 --> 00:24:38.960 around it. And it's kind of out by itself. I I don't really see any really redeeming features in it. >> They could have a big foul on a hand. 86 00:24:38.960 --> 00:24:54.159 You have to have pretty good reason to want to try to protect it, you know? >> Right. These um >> No, my objections are all non-historical related. Do your objections? You have a rejection? >> Really? 87 00:24:54.159 --> 00:25:11.039 >> I think just in terms of over building a lot and stuff, but >> yeah, the view though, you can't beat the view. You saw the picture have that beautiful >> overlook. Well, it doesn't. I didn't put that. >> And actually, it doesn't really impact me that much. >> Look at I just >> But the traffic Yeah, that's what I 88 00:25:11.039 --> 00:25:25.279 mean. That's interesting. >> Yeah. >> But the traffic coming out of there is just insane. >> Really? Not out of Pebble Lane. That's just the old thing died street. >> No, no, out of the whole walk, you know. >> Um, 89 00:25:25.279 --> 00:25:42.799 >> but no, I don't I don't think you could say that that has any architectural or historical significance. >> And uh I didn't, like I say, I didn't put it in, but it just overlooks the whole man bug lights right out. That's pretty everything. 90 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:56.880 >> The windows are pretty >> windows >> on the new. >> Oh. Yeah. Yeah. Just the same. All right. So, I think we can probably agree that this one doesn't come under 91 00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:16.400 our isn't preferably preferred. Let me get my section out on demolition and um >> I think we went through >> Yeah. Not this one. 92 00:26:16.400 --> 00:26:33.279 >> Not this one. No. >> So it has to be preferably preferred based upon these criteria whether it was associated with a historic person, an historic event, architectural history, cultural history, political history, economic history, 93 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:48.960 social history of town, state, country, >> whatever. >> So there's none that we really know of here. Um it was you know that area was all cottages one actually it was just 94 00:26:48.960 --> 00:27:06.000 grazing land but it was all cottages eventually and rented out. I think my parents actually rented a cottage on the before I was born and um so I don't think there's anything that's associated with those with this 95 00:27:06.000 --> 00:27:22.240 building. What do you think? >> I agree with that. I agree. No association. >> Okay. Is the building or structure historically or architecturally important by reason of period, style, method of construction? Is it associated 96 00:27:22.240 --> 00:27:36.559 with a particular architect or a particular builder? >> Not that we're aware of. >> No, not that we're aware of. Um, and it's been modified so much it's it's lost that distinction. 97 00:27:36.559 --> 00:27:54.799 So with that in mind, um we could someone would make a motion that the structure on it nine Pebbles Lane. >> Yes. >> Nine Pebbles Lane does not meet the criteria of historically significant 98 00:27:54.799 --> 00:28:12.320 building or structure as voted by the majority of the historic commission. We'll take a vote on it. So, >> so I move that the nine pebbles lane is not does not classify as historically 99 00:28:12.320 --> 00:28:28.960 significant structure. So, we should move to approve the demolition. >> Second. >> Second. Any comments besides what we've already talked about? >> Okay, then all in favor of uh the motion 100 00:28:28.960 --> 00:28:44.240 to grant the demolition. I >> I so it was unanimous on that and I'll draft a letter up to them about that. >> Okay. On the other matter or that we 101 00:28:44.240 --> 00:29:00.559 received um just recently >> five Reed Street. You saw the email from John about it. Um, apparently there was a fire there and I went out to look at that house. 102 00:29:00.559 --> 00:29:15.440 Anybody go look at that house? >> Not yet. >> It's like a 1750 house. >> Okay. >> Perfect. It's a nice cape. Old style cape, right? So, this one here we may want to take a look at. Here's some pictures of the house. You can't see too 103 00:29:15.440 --> 00:29:31.200 much from the front or side. So, and I didn't want to walk around too much. I don't think anybody lives here right now. But um yeah, look, this is a it's a whole cape from the front. And 104 00:29:31.200 --> 00:29:47.279 actually, it's off the side. It doesn't face the road. >> What year was it? >> 1750 something. 17 Sorry, it's 1780. Here it says under the mattress. Single 105 00:29:47.279 --> 00:30:02.480 chimney. Um >> but there was a fire. Yeah, I believe there was a fire and I've got one of those is a closeup of the roof. >> The demo permit I asked for more information. This is all they had. Said 106 00:30:02.480 --> 00:30:19.520 demolition demol demolition home damaged by fire kitchen to remain. So where's the kitchen? I don't know. Where's you know, can this thing be saved and gutted and rebuilt? You know, save the exterior, maybe the 107 00:30:19.520 --> 00:30:35.760 beams. They're probably, you know, 8 to 10 in >> Mhm. >> by 10 in beams in there. >> Um, whether it's worth saving or not. So, John said the owners would be willing to have come out and take a look at it. 108 00:30:35.760 --> 00:30:53.279 >> And I think it might be who to do that to get together and do a field trip and go out see if >> I agree. >> Take a look. >> Worth looking into. Yeah. >> Yeah. Because like I say, it's on the old property. Um, it's route 27 kind of bypasses Reed Street. Reed Street, I 109 00:30:53.279 --> 00:31:14.799 guess you Street. >> It's kind of a curve there. But, um, yeah, it's quite quite the picture of it. So we'll see if we can arrange a meeting 110 00:31:14.799 --> 00:31:33.440 here um in the near very near future. Take a look at it. Is that the gist of the meeting? >> Yes. >> Okay. Until then we won't we'll deal with the demo demo. 111 00:31:33.440 --> 00:31:50.640 >> Yeah, I've heard that name too. I mean that's pretty good. So, what's the name of it? >> Augustus Simmons. >> Right. >> I sent this out to you guys. Um, >> I saw the pebbles. I didn't recall see 112 00:31:50.640 --> 00:32:08.159 remember seeing this one. I'll look it up. >> Yeah, we'll send her another demo permit came in. So, okay, we're going to put that up there. We got a request for information on cow paths. um fellow on Elm Street and um 113 00:32:08.159 --> 00:32:30.399 down the road from us can um uh Mr. Swinmer, Craig Swinmer. My name is Craig Swinmer. I own 479 Elm Street. I was talking to my joining neighbor at 485 Elm and she said a historic cattle path 114 00:32:30.399 --> 00:32:46.480 ran between our two properties. It's probably not historically significant, but was curious if you were aware of any resources that I could use to research this backdrop. I said it's interesting. Um, we'll be taking this up at our meeting on the 19th. My wife says her 115 00:32:46.480 --> 00:33:02.080 grandfather over in East Middbor drove his dairy herd from there to Bay Farm in Ducksbury, maybe around early 1900s. Could be the same route. So, um, apparently he's going to do some researching on it. He says he didn't 116 00:33:02.080 --> 00:33:19.279 expect a question to hit close to home for me. I'm originally from Mass. He was but moved to Kingston recently, so I figured this would be an interesting history project for me because it related to my property. If it's the same trail, I'll be sure to turn any cowboy bells I found. Um, anyways, 117 00:33:19.279 --> 00:33:34.159 >> what was the property? >> It was um 479 Elm. It's between that 485 Elm. Yeah. She says the grandfather's cows used to get tired coming up. There's a hill on way down Elm Street over there 118 00:33:34.159 --> 00:33:49.440 in Plton and they'd have to arrest the cows before they went got further. So they must have drove them right through town, you know. >> Yeah. >> So I assume it's just the maps the the maps. Remember they have the old cow 119 00:33:49.440 --> 00:34:06.159 cart paths on there on most of the old maps they would have them. we could suggest or to visit with um is it Dawn the archavist? Um >> oh with Nick. >> Nick. Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. 120 00:34:06.159 --> 00:34:28.240 >> Visit with Nick and see if we've got a lot of the maps are online now. >> Any other suggestions? >> No, that's a good place to start. And uh I don't know if there's anyone if Jan would even know if there's a local history that that identifies some of the 121 00:34:28.240 --> 00:34:44.159 old car paths. Um but Nick is a start. Yeah. >> Yeah. I wonder if he has the books. I want to say anything. >> Oh, this is interesting. >> What's that? >> Um, the Dave the Davis Robins cattle 122 00:34:44.159 --> 00:35:00.320 drives between conquered mass and there's like this is apparently a whole thing to find these cow paths. >> What is what's the website? >> Like there's Well, this one is called peculiar work, but this one is just a 123 00:35:00.320 --> 00:35:16.640 discussion of an old This one's in conquered mass. Okay. >> But there's tons and tons of Massachusetts al path. >> Yeah. I bet that there are >> research. Who would have found it? >> Always wanted to find out where that 124 00:35:16.640 --> 00:35:32.640 ford was down by the great bridge. You know, there's there was a path across the water where it was a ferry or >> Oh, okay. >> Yeah. >> Down stream from there. Yeah. >> All right. What was it? 125 00:35:32.640 --> 00:35:48.400 We got the BSA clean out of the way. We'll be burning ground stump removal. We haven't done anything with that. We're going to order the order of this. We're not ordering stuff. >> Yeah. Um when you looked into it, >> uh when you looked into it, you're you 126 00:35:48.400 --> 00:36:04.800 found that it was pretty extensive. I had my file I I didn't wasn't able to get home after work before coming here and I had my file out on my desk, so I don't have it with me. But when I looked into it, it wasn't I I thought we could do it cost effectively, but the stuff 127 00:36:04.800 --> 00:36:19.040 you looked at seemed to be pretty prohibitive in terms of cost. >> Well, it's, you know, for a small tree. >> Yeah, >> it would be okay. I don't know. We could try one tree. I think what it would do. >> Let me um >> Well, we got to buy it quick. 128 00:36:19.040 --> 00:36:35.839 >> Yeah. Yeah. And I what I had thought was the um the bonide was the the best object. Um, >> is this a separate way to drill holes for it in? >> Yeah. >> Okay. You want to try one tree and see if we buy enough of this stuff to do one 129 00:36:35.839 --> 00:36:51.359 tree and see what happens. >> Then we go from there. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And then the rest of the money we'll spend on the um cleaning supplies for the stones, >> right? Okay. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. 130 00:36:51.359 --> 00:37:08.160 >> Too early. >> Yeah. >> It's hot day. All right. I haven't done anything. cingum linen tree or finding out any more about that but I will give him another call organization and new member I'm going to retire this year so I think it's been 25 131 00:37:08.160 --> 00:37:23.200 years or whatever so I'm retiring and I already told you you're going to need chair anyway so I haven't reapplied for my position here so um I got a lot of stuff to turn over whoever is going to be chair it's not going to be you I guess Jim 132 00:37:23.200 --> 00:37:42.720 >> no because I'm I'm resigning as I'll uh I'll come for one more meeting in June and then >> Okay. >> July wrap it up. >> All right. >> So, congratulations. >> I guess. Yeah. >> I didn't put in 25 years, but uh so 133 00:37:42.720 --> 00:37:58.400 >> it's been a long time. >> Yeah. >> I don't know why my throat's so dry. I didn't bring any water. And there's no bubbler since water showing up. Um, historic presentations. Do we have 134 00:37:58.400 --> 00:38:16.720 anything new on that for this year? >> Uh, >> did you go to the over there >> exhibit? Yeah. Yeah. No, >> I wasn't able to get there, but >> yeah. >> So, he did a good job. Yeah, he >> pretty good. >> Yeah, >> kind of an eclectic mix and Yeah. 135 00:38:16.720 --> 00:38:46.480 >> Okay. Anybody else? No. Um, and the 300th anniversary committee. John's not here today, but do we know anything new about that? The dedication. >> Is there a water buffalo downstairs? Well, we're going to be in a quandry 136 00:38:46.480 --> 00:39:01.599 without both of you. >> I I uh I do I feel I feel guilty about I don't feel guilty. No, not but um it really came to the point where I had to choose between this and the watershed 137 00:39:01.599 --> 00:39:17.119 association and uh and with everything else going but >> kind of felt like the watershed association I >> more my wheelhouse maybe you know I could >> have more impact there but um 138 00:39:17.119 --> 00:39:32.240 >> but I will say well you know that I don't know keeping up with this stuff it's more work than I thought it would be. Yeah. you know, it was just the persistent like you like I've fallen behind now on um posting the minutes. I got to get those all up to date and 139 00:39:32.240 --> 00:39:51.760 stuff and um but I'll make sure everything is posted up to date uh you know through uh through June. You know, I was wondering too did it but that guy was asking about the cow path. 140 00:39:51.760 --> 00:40:10.240 I don't know. It sounds like you got to >> potential new. >> We're going to need some new blood. And >> I don't know if um of course I can't speak for him. If Tom would want to take the leadership um 141 00:40:10.240 --> 00:40:27.119 I can't I got a lot going on. I And I'm I became the treasurer of Jones River Village Historical, which is not huge, but but similar. You gota you got to keep up with it >> just like anywhere else. It's the 8020 rule, right? Like 80% of the work gets done by 20% of the people. 142 00:40:27.119 --> 00:40:44.480 >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> So everybody doing something is doing multiple things, I think. >> So maybe we just need to do some campaigning. >> We're going to need to for new members. >> Yes. Yeah. 143 00:40:44.480 --> 00:41:05.280 >> I have time to do it. I just don't have any idea what it entails. chairing it. >> Thank God. >> Well, there's the uh veterans secretary I think was down there. >> Oh, that's good. >> The bottle the bott There's a bottle 144 00:41:05.280 --> 00:41:20.960 bill, too. >> Okay. So, do you have an election? >> We're just talking about our future. Linda. >> Yeah, I was just saying I don't but I don't really know anything about 145 00:41:20.960 --> 00:41:37.440 anything. >> So, >> you don't have to. You have to have an inquisitive mind. Organiz organized inquisitive mind. That's about it, you know. And I'm losing out on that. So, I just decided I got too much other 146 00:41:37.440 --> 00:41:53.200 grandkids. And >> I didn't realize you've been the chair of the commission for 25 years. I've been the chair the whole time of it >> and I was chair of the CPC. >> Yeah. >> At the same time. So it was um 147 00:41:53.200 --> 00:42:09.520 it's been something you dealing with this but we can't talk about this. >> Yeah. >> But yeah, it's been a long time. So um you know I'm interested in stuff here but I just can't dedicate the time to it. 148 00:42:09.520 --> 00:42:26.160 >> Yeah. When are you um planning on retiring? >> Well, July. >> July. Yeah. July. June. End of June. So, >> yeah. >> So, I guess we should find out if Linda is staying on. If Tom's staying on >> staying on, 149 00:42:26.160 --> 00:42:41.760 Tom, he's staying on. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. Um but we've got this new guy. This fellow. >> That's what I was just saying. Just ask him if somebody wants to join. >> Yeah. Well, I was thinking we could put 150 00:42:41.760 --> 00:42:58.400 something up on Facebook too or something. >> Yeah. They'll post it these things on the town website as well. But um there's another our neighbor on Main Street there. I was talking to him and he's interested in history. This is uh 151 00:42:58.400 --> 00:43:12.800 two guys in um what's the name? That was uh help me out here. Next image. Okay. >> I'm not sure. >> The two two guys that are married there. Um 152 00:43:12.800 --> 00:43:29.520 >> Oh, no. They back up job property. >> Okay. >> Um we call them the boys. >> Okay. >> And um >> they he was interested in history. I know that >> I went to school with Adam. So >> I'll see if they're interested. Yeah. Join. I mentioned that there was going 153 00:43:29.520 --> 00:43:45.599 to be an open space that was yours and um so now we'll have two open spaces >> and possibly through the book project we can come up with a couple of names to ask. >> Yeah, I'm trying to pick one right now. 154 00:43:45.599 --> 00:44:02.720 Well, speaking of the book fit, but the um we're at the early bird or so ago and um someone brought in a bunch of books to sell there. Do you know that? >> A bunch of books to sell. >> Well, there was one on the counter. 155 00:44:02.720 --> 00:44:17.920 >> Yeah. >> And of our 300th book. >> Yeah. And so I says, >> yeah, I remember that way back when. >> Well, I asked her. I says, "Are you selling these books?" She, "Yeah, yeah, I think so." Someone just came in here. Some woman just came in here. I was the 156 00:44:17.920 --> 00:44:32.640 day before or something with a bunch of them. And so I don't know how many that means, but apparently there were more than one. >> Oh, okay. >> And so there's some books. So there were this was week and a half ago. >> Were they selling them for the right price? 157 00:44:32.640 --> 00:44:48.160 >> You know, I didn't ask because it was I don't think the woman knew how much they were. Anyway, >> we have some resellers. Yeah, but now it's 75. >> I think it was wrapped, too. It was still wrapped. 158 00:44:48.160 --> 00:45:05.200 >> Was it the woman Janice? >> I had no idea. She didn't know who the woman was that brought him in. >> Oh, interesting. >> Okay, we'll have to ask. >> So, it definitely wasn't Jim Carl or Ed. >> Yeah. >> Wow. >> What? So, you thought they're all gone? 159 00:45:05.200 --> 00:45:22.240 >> Uh, not literally, but there's a couple of dozen for people who prepaid and haven't picked up basically. >> Okay, so that's the end of our what we have on the agenda tonight. Is there anything else we need to talk about? 160 00:45:22.240 --> 00:45:39.119 >> Real briefly, um Carol Anderson Jones village had asked me to share extending an invitation. We're all busy. But um um Tuesday um the 16th or 17th 16th, I'm sorry. 161 00:45:39.119 --> 00:46:02.240 16th they're celebrating the 300th. Yeah. June at Bradford House. Hold on one second. Yeah. here. >> Uh, so June 16th, June 300 at Bradford House noon to 3. They're having a 162 00:46:02.240 --> 00:46:18.400 cookout. >> What day? >> On the 16th. >> June. >> Yeah. And one thing they're doing is they're going to plant. Hi, Bob. Plant the time capsules. >> Um, so if we had any suggestions, items 163 00:46:18.400 --> 00:46:34.960 put in, they'd probably welcome that. How how weather resistant is it? >> I don't know because >> Yeah, >> I'm putting in a copy of the book. >> It's a folder. >> It's pretty big. >> Yeah, >> probably would. I should ask. Yeah. 164 00:46:34.960 --> 00:46:50.720 >> Yeah, that's true. >> Hopefully there'll be some copies around 50. >> Well, I don't know. The way they're selling over at the early bird. >> Yeah, it' be hard to find. >> Um, right. So, >> no. Yeah, it's like $15. Carol asks 165 00:46:50.720 --> 00:47:06.640 people email her. >> Yeah. >> Um, >> good. >> Yeah. >> Invite. >> There was one thing, too. We never finished was this uh uh preservation restriction on the >> Oh, Bradford House. >> Oh, >> okay. It's supposed to be a preservation 166 00:47:06.640 --> 00:47:23.599 restriction. CP, it's kind of the CPC's responsibility. the historical commission was working on it. >> And at one time we had that pretty well set to go, but it never got finalized. And it's something that 167 00:47:23.599 --> 00:47:39.920 while we have a president, Carol over there and a board that can sign off on this that we get that preservation restriction in there. So, >> keep it as long as you need it because they're going to do it just on Zoom. So, >> well, you're going to do what? >> We're supposed to have a meeting against the Democratic town committee. We're 168 00:47:39.920 --> 00:47:58.480 going to do it all on Zoom, so you can keep this going. >> Well, we're we're just knocking off now. >> Well, I'm just telling you there's nobody here except me. >> Okay. >> Okay. Well, all right. Um, >> where was I? So I should pass that while we 169 00:47:58.480 --> 00:48:15.280 >> Yes, we should get that thing finalized in so that we have control over what happens at building should the society dissolve or sell a house or whatever. You know >> if if you can provide me any of the paperwork that got started with that I'll bring it to the next board meeting. 170 00:48:15.280 --> 00:48:31.920 >> Yeah. Put it on the agenda. >> We did this was when um uh was on it. um involved with >> but for some reason there was something that never got finished off 171 00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:48.319 >> but that's one building we could hold a reservation restriction on and you know should something happen in the future why at least the house would be >> some protection >> that would be a perfect place for museum 172 00:48:48.319 --> 00:49:05.280 museum you know put something Okay. >> Um, sorry, a side note for the Bradford House. Um, the issue of um the town uh not wanting to plow the driveway up 173 00:49:05.280 --> 00:49:21.280 there um with the with Sean and not not I don't know, you know, highway superintendent um versus what Paul Basler did. Um it's um longer members of the of the society 174 00:49:21.280 --> 00:49:38.400 have said it's it's very clear that it's a town right. They're saying it's private property, but others like David Pepe said it's a town right away. It's the old landing road that's on the maps, you know, that's what down to the shipyards right there and you can still 175 00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:54.720 see it in the woods after you cross the railroad tracks. Um so it's an issue that um some of us on the society are going to need to bring to the town to the selectman maybe this summer and and sort of just make the firm case for that 176 00:49:54.720 --> 00:50:09.760 because town should be plowing it and with what we went through in February. No fire equipment could have gotten near the Bradford house >> and Mark Weaboni had somebody plow it luckily but it should be the town. 177 00:50:09.760 --> 00:50:29.760 >> Yeah. So just said yes. >> Anything else? No. All right. I need a motion to dismiss. >> German. >> Second. 178 00:50:29.760 --> 00:50:36.440 >> Okay. All in favor? I Okay. Part: 2 1 00:00:05.440 --> 00:00:22.480 open up the May 19th um sewer commissioners meeting. Um I didn't get a chance to look at the agenda before it was posted. So we don't have reorg on it. >> So we'll have to kick that for the next meeting to re to vote chair vice chair. 2 00:00:22.480 --> 00:00:40.040 That was I should have told you. So, um, start with meeting minutes. Anybody have a chance to look at them? >> Okay. >> Um, update from superintendent. 3 00:00:40.160 --> 00:00:56.000 >> All right. Uh, let's see. What can I start with this? Couple of things I'm working on. Um, I just sent the sludge contractors up every three years. That's up the end of, you know, June 30th. So July 1, we need 4 00:00:56.000 --> 00:01:12.880 a contract. Um, I revised that with Genie, got some of the dates updated, quantities updated. Sent that to Scott on May 5th. Um, I just did a followup with him today to see where it's at. I don't have a recent update, uh, but I 5 00:01:12.880 --> 00:01:28.880 did talk to custo hauling sludge, so if there is any delay, we'll we still have someone hauling our sludge until this goes through. And I imagine with town meeting coming up that, you know, things are just a little delayed. >> We should have plenty of time for that 6 00:01:28.880 --> 00:01:45.439 to get through. Uh maybe a week and a half ago or so, I met with the Mass Highway Group that's doing the Smith Lane work. And actually in your agenda packet 7 00:01:45.439 --> 00:02:00.640 I highlighted it should be the oh >> second page in third page page three. >> Yeah. >> If you look at where the red dots are that highlighted sheet that you just went by. >> Yeah. 8 00:02:00.640 --> 00:02:18.160 >> Where the red dots are on the manhole. That's where our system ends. It's just before Ocean Hill Drive. >> Oh, okay. acquainted with that. So, they're looking at adding this rotary eventually off of exit 8 on both sides 9 00:02:18.160 --> 00:02:34.560 of the highway. >> Really? >> So, the roundabout though, right? >> I learned the difference the hard way. >> So, um the relocation is going to involve moving some utilities and things like that. So, all the utility people 10 00:02:34.560 --> 00:02:50.000 are out there, electric, remote, telephone. So, um, the gentleman that's in charge of the project for Mass Highway was saying that they're willing to put in a new sewer line for us through that 11 00:02:50.000 --> 00:03:07.200 roundabout up to wherever we wanted to stop outside their work zone. >> Excellent. >> So, what I did was highlight where I would anticipate it going. So from the the four red dots over to Ocean Hill and 12 00:03:07.200 --> 00:03:25.519 then taking that 90° turn just off their property line for Mass Highways easement. So I wanted to check with the board see if you guys are all right. So the the way he worded it was if we purchase the 13 00:03:25.519 --> 00:03:41.760 materials, so the sections of pipe, the manhole structures, frames and covers, they'll do all the digging, installation for great >> repaving over it. >> So if we ever wanted to expand into Ocean Hill, at least that would be there 14 00:03:41.760 --> 00:03:58.400 for future development at almost no cost to us other than the materials. That's very good because even down Anderson A there's a um housing development down there housing unit >> down >> and this is consistent with our this is one of those study areas right 15 00:03:58.400 --> 00:04:16.959 >> all you know that whole your big yellow on and yeah so this is very >> yeah this is the board is comfortable I think they're going to have a public meeting coming up first week in June with a 70% design. So 16 00:04:16.959 --> 00:04:34.360 he said as long as I can get word to him by the end of this week, they can include that as part of the project. >> Yeah. I said we take a vote. >> I was going to say I'll make a motion to authorize our superintendent Walsh to 17 00:04:36.080 --> 00:04:52.160 work with Mass Eot to design and install this pipe as shown on the plan. Second. All >> in favor? Uh I do you want to take a a separate vote to confirm that we'll pay 18 00:04:52.160 --> 00:05:06.160 for the material? Yes. >> I'll make a second motion that we authorize our superintendent then to to purchase the uh appropriate PVC pipe and manhole structures and rims and covers 19 00:05:06.160 --> 00:05:24.320 as needed at our direction um as necessary. Right. Second. >> All in favor? And >> this is somewhere in the three to five year range. So it's, you know, at least in the PL planning purposes, we get in on time. 20 00:05:24.320 --> 00:05:40.240 >> Yeah, definitely. >> About 300 ft of pipe at most. >> Yeah. I would anticipate something like that. Yeah. >> And the beauty of it is later on if we were to do something, we're not having to deal with and getting to mass highway and all that sort of stuff. 21 00:05:40.240 --> 00:05:56.960 Yeah, you got out of the That's I was trying to find the Mass Highway layout. You're out of that, right? >> It's off inside and then it goes out here. Looks like this is the layout right here. >> Yeah, that's what I'm get. The dotted line. >> Yeah, the dotted line. That's what I was looking at, too. >> Yeah. And I think they're revising some of their borders that they have by maybe 22 00:05:56.960 --> 00:06:13.680 six feet or so. There was some discuss doing some taking. >> Well, that might be it then. That might be the taking line. It's a dotted line because it's not it's not not it's not a HUD. >> It says something layout like town layout. Yeah. >> So we would be just on the town layout 23 00:06:13.680 --> 00:06:28.639 what you're drawing. >> Yeah. And he basically asked me where would I want it to stop and I would say at least get off of you know mass highway property or right you know edge of so we can just >> tie right into it. >> Good idea. 24 00:06:28.639 --> 00:06:43.919 >> That was yeah that was great. >> That that's that's very good. Um recently um so it's Tuesday. So last week we stopped all the flow coming in through Rocky North Georgia River pump station 25 00:06:43.919 --> 00:06:58.639 down completely. Got all the rags out and any dirt and debris that's been in them. We do this about every depending on how much you rag uh infiltration we get into the structure. We clean out every 6 months 26 00:06:58.639 --> 00:07:16.560 to two years. So it had been probably a year and a half since we've been in there. So >> um >> that was last week. >> How long can you leave that? >> So normally what we do is we we monitor it and then a lot of times that rag mass 27 00:07:16.560 --> 00:07:32.160 can just float at the top and it actually becomes trapped. So any more rags will just stay on that floating mass. But eventually you do get some that pass through and jam up the pumps and check valves. So once that starts happening, we just go in and clean it no 28 00:07:32.160 --> 00:07:47.199 matter what. So we've been short-handed for just a year and a half now. So it's been tough to actually commit enough guys to be able to handle stuff to plant and some of these projects. So it's nice having our the guy that was off on 29 00:07:47.199 --> 00:08:04.479 injury is now back doing light duty and it's been great. So now that he's in the lab, it frees us up to take care of some of these projects. >> Good. My question was how long can you leave the the >> oh >> so 30 00:08:04.479 --> 00:08:21.280 we've learned in the past when there have been problems we can go a couple hours at Jones River with it backing up there's a easement cross country line that heads over towards Rocky North and Howland's Lane I think it's an 18inch 31 00:08:21.280 --> 00:08:37.760 pipe that alone we could back it up for a couple hours with No problem >> for that one. Yeah, >> at the bottom of the Jones River >> Jones River, not so much. It's a very small wetwell. >> Um, what we did with that, we plugged the line out at the street, had two pump 32 00:08:37.760 --> 00:08:53.920 trucks sucking all the incoming flow, >> and then pumped the system down back into town. >> Thank you for that explanation. >> That that is very short time. I would imagine >> you have to build that the river >> within 33 00:08:53.920 --> 00:09:09.760 >> probably depending on how many pump stations kicking in at the time. You could have anywhere from probably a half hour to an hour >> and then it's overflowing, >> right? >> Which is very beneficial having most of our guys in call living within 15 34 00:09:09.760 --> 00:09:25.600 minutes of the plant. >> So >> you got a a lot of that flow is has been pumped from other pumping stations to get it out. It's uh when they looked at the original design, it did not look like a, >> you know, >> there's not a lot of >> electricity twice to pump the stuff, 35 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:41.279 >> not an extra lot of space in that pump station, which is uh stressful. But so that was done. Uh it was a big plus before I go on vacation. I really wanted some of these things taken care of so the rest of the guys wouldn't have this 36 00:09:41.279 --> 00:09:56.720 issue come about when I'm not around. So, uh, the fourth tank, we usually run three out of the four tanks. Every six months, we'll take one tank offline. We did that last week as well. So, last week was pretty busy week. Took four 37 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:14.079 offline, reinspected all the manifolds for airation. Everything was fine and good tanks. So, uh, let's see. Our new administrative assistant is going to be starting May 26. She's going to get sworn through the 38 00:10:14.079 --> 00:10:30.160 uh select lines meeting tonight. >> Oh, good. >> Should start next Tuesday. >> Your name again? >> Dorine. >> Dorine. >> Tortis. I'm probably butchering. E >> T E >> G E >> O >> O 39 00:10:30.160 --> 00:10:48.880 >> R >> D >> S E N. >> I think it's O R S. >> O R S E. It's close. >> Uh, so in preparation of Dorene coming 40 00:10:48.880 --> 00:11:05.040 on board, Jeanie arranged with it to set up computer and doodle screen for her. We got her a desk waiting on the tree to come in. That should come in this week, but if it's not, she can use mine till I come back from vacation. 41 00:11:05.040 --> 00:11:21.839 That'll be in by then. And then we rearranged the office, stripped the floors, waxed them, then tidied up down there, rearranged file cabinets. So if you haven't seen it, >> you did that the staff did that? >> We did that in house last Friday when 42 00:11:21.839 --> 00:11:38.640 Jeie was out. >> Nice. >> To town, so that worked out well. >> Um, >> and then just on a sidebar, I think Jeannie sent a notice out on this. our meeting on June 9th. I have a doctor's appointment at 3:45. 43 00:11:38.640 --> 00:11:58.000 So, I'm going to be looking at Sometimes it gets delayed. So, if we can do a 5:00 start that day for our meeting, >> that should be plenty of time. >> June 9th >> and I will be on vacation. I think I announced this last meeting on the 26th 44 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:14.320 starting and I'll be back. I actually come back the day of town meeting. So I will unfortunately miss town meeting. I had it all planned around the original town meeting. >> Well, the good thing is we don't have 45 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:29.279 anything but the operating budget and I mean it shouldn't be >> a lot of >> Yeah. And and with that being said, um I know we have financials and articles as part of our 46 00:12:29.279 --> 00:12:47.120 agenda. um where the department had meeting this morning, you know, went through the the article. It's it's simplified where we were originally looking at four different articles potentially. >> Um it's been simplified. There's one minor change that they're going to do 47 00:12:47.120 --> 00:13:02.160 which um it's just a matter of I don't know if you have that article in front of you. We have a article. >> Okay. Yeah. So be still on the back page with different cons 48 00:13:02.160 --> 00:13:24.480 between the total budget of 4923310 and the amount included in the motion of 5,326419 that 5 million and four 4 million number are just going to get switched. >> Oh okay. Let's go on on the second page 49 00:13:24.480 --> 00:13:40.800 >> on this side. >> Yep. >> So this 5 million 326 number and the 4,923 those are going to get switched >> in the Senates. >> Yes, there's 12 places with those. >> Other than that, everything looks good. 50 00:13:40.800 --> 00:13:57.120 We did look at the total revenue that's expected for FY27 and Magic numbers. There were some recent changes that the finance director uh just re you know updated some of our 51 00:13:57.120 --> 00:14:18.560 debt numbers and I think this should be our final final >> the new >> the new yes which I understand today I heard it's official she's signed a three-year contract so >> good who was and Cal. 52 00:14:18.560 --> 00:14:34.560 >> And um one thing that I just need to point out because it's all because of you of you and the staff. >> Uh free cash retained earnings $560,22. That's the extra septage. I mean, I'm just acknowledging. >> Yes. Yes. 53 00:14:34.560 --> 00:14:56.240 >> That that's a tremendous um task to be able to have that in a given year. >> Yep. That is that in here? >> Yeah. 560. >> Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. >> Read that. >> Should be in the main body. Second 54 00:14:56.240 --> 00:15:15.279 paragraph. >> Oh, this one. Yeah, I'm looking down here. >> Okay. So, we have one article then. >> Yeah. Yeah. Just the one article. And um that's everything on my end. Tires update. 55 00:15:15.279 --> 00:15:30.720 >> Just curious what's the operating budget of the town compared to this? >> You know the whole project everything is like 63 million and change >> without schools or winds. I can't remember. 56 00:15:30.720 --> 00:15:47.120 >> I hope that's >> Oh, you'll be surprised how big the school. >> Yeah. No, that's in here. >> I'm just trying to There was a 3 >> 63,69 >> and that's the entire town budget excluding these, right? 57 00:15:47.120 --> 00:16:03.519 >> Correct. >> In water. >> It should. Yeah. >> So, we're 10% and I'm the school's probably 60% I would think. Yeah. >> Yeah. It's usually over half. >> Yeah. So, just you know just you look at 58 00:16:03.519 --> 00:16:22.480 the spending the big matrices >> that's some of the numbers. Yeah. big. >> It's not not the final print out. There might be some additions with subtractions, but that was >> Yeah, almost 18 by himself. 59 00:16:22.480 --> 00:16:43.360 >> That is a >> Okay. And um going forward now I think I'll we'll add to the agenda update from superintendent office manager and have genie give any updates now that >> okay anything going on we should know about 60 00:16:43.360 --> 00:16:59.519 >> so we did get a quarterly building um I haven't gone through the whole report yet um but right now it looks like we're filling out about 417,000 in change for this quarter total watering bills um our revenue new looks great. The numbers are 61 00:16:59.519 --> 00:17:15.360 like right right where they need to be. Um Carol, the new accountant even said that we're in great shape. Good >> as far as bringing in the revenue and um she was amazed at how we had brought down paying our debt um and using the 62 00:17:15.360 --> 00:17:31.919 septage and that. >> Perfect. >> Um I did have a phone call today from Atlantic Design them inquiring about if we were going to be expanding up to Walking Road. I did let them know that we stopped at Marian Drive. Um but we we 63 00:17:31.919 --> 00:17:48.559 there are expansions in the plan and then they also were inquiring about um capacity from another town tying into us and I just said we are in the process of that if we have available capacity. Um 64 00:17:48.559 --> 00:18:04.080 and he was just asking questions. So I did get his email told him I would talk to the civil commission and then reach out to him and see if we wanted to come in and meet with the commission and talk about what >> next meeting. >> Sure. Sure. I I have a few questions 65 00:18:04.080 --> 00:18:20.480 just to make sure. So you mentioned who road. Did he say where on road? >> Okay. because we can honestly say that our plan is out there and we're going to go up to South Street and that's a year 66 00:18:20.480 --> 00:18:38.240 optimistically it's a year away. Um but depending on the circumstances somebody wants to put a sewer in we have capacity we'll talk about this then the other one is Marian Drive he's asking questions about Marian Drive >> about walking road. >> No you said walking then I said Marian 67 00:18:38.240 --> 00:18:54.000 Drive. No, I think we have sewer that stops at Marian Drive and we're not going up walking. >> That's that's South Street then, >> right? >> Yeah. Okay. Okay. That's right. Okay. >> You said Marian Drive, I'm thinking. Yeah. All right. 68 00:18:54.000 --> 00:19:10.640 >> Okay. That's good. >> Yeah. >> I've had several people. So my favorite thing now is when I was voting, there's a woman there sitting next to Bob Basel and said, "Oh, I live in the nook and I'm looking to get a sewer hookup. 69 00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:25.840 You're talking to the right guy. Come on in. >> Open the business. Open up the business." >> So I said, "Yeah, come in." So just give me a call and we'll be more than happy to talk to you. The other thing I just wanted to mention is we had the field 70 00:19:25.840 --> 00:19:41.679 trip come through and Mrs. One sent us pictures and how the kids were thrilled about coming through the townhouse and learning about the different stuff. But these first graders were so interactive. They were so well behaved. Um they really enjoyed their time and I think 71 00:19:41.679 --> 00:19:57.919 the town did a great job doing presentations and making them feel part of the town. >> So they they came through town hall. >> They came through town hall. They were enamored with Dave. >> You weren't here at the last meeting. Dave gave him whole show with the clean water, dirty water, the whole 72 00:19:57.919 --> 00:20:14.480 >> Oh yeah. >> What did they say about poop? >> So Dave goes, "Everybody poops." So then the whole little group of them were like, "Everybody poops." >> Perfect. >> It was It was great. They were really engaged and asking questions. Uh Dave 73 00:20:14.480 --> 00:20:30.960 had put a little video up with, you know, the bugs and um they were just so happy. >> Nice. >> Yeah. >> They could be working for you some days. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I heard all about it in the clerk's office and everywhere else in 74 00:20:30.960 --> 00:20:46.720 the town's office. It's done quite a >> we had like there were like groups of five or six seven going around different groups at the same time >> like a tour >> and they loved their poop emoji keychains on their hats. 75 00:20:46.720 --> 00:21:07.200 >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Good. Okay. Superintendent financials. Um, so I think I sent you a note that uh we passed on Dean passed on all the information to Mark Casey representing 76 00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:23.679 the developer. I contacted him last night to say just so you know where are you and we're meeting today. It's on the agenda. He told me this morning >> that their team is meeting this morning and he tried to get back to me with some 77 00:21:23.679 --> 00:21:39.120 update by today which did not happen. So, >> okay. >> I I will they're probably discussing some issues, but u as soon as I get to I'll make sure everyone sees it, you know, so that we we're on on top of it. But I imagine we're pretty pretty close 78 00:21:39.120 --> 00:21:54.480 >> and we can always call you on your availability mark. But yeah, >> you know, within 48 hours if something comes up to get this contract >> solidified, we can certainly call the meeting. So moving forward, it's it's on their 79 00:21:54.480 --> 00:22:12.559 side of the fence, so to speak. The other thing we're talking about, too. >> Yep. Um then the other other contract we got back yesterday for the um contract services for the 80 00:22:12.559 --> 00:22:30.799 Miramar project >> that they so we had the big agreement for the 40B project is proposed potentially and this is our our contract CDM they're paying for this. Thank you. 81 00:22:30.799 --> 00:22:46.960 >> And it's in embedded in that agreement, but this is a separate contract to keep it away from all the other things we're doing. >> Okay. >> It's going to be a separate contract. >> Yes. >> They will pay directly to us, >> keep it clean. >> Basically, see construction that ties 82 00:22:46.960 --> 00:23:02.960 into our system, >> right? You need to be involved, but they will be the engineering, you know, operation guy and then CDM will be there. So, this keeps it clean. >> Clark Street is part of that. And then what else? How far down does your line 83 00:23:02.960 --> 00:23:18.559 go? >> We basically pick up from River Street all down in Marsh Road and Charles Drive at the Adena area. Comes down River Street to our pump station right there. Y >> and then pumps it over to Maple Street. >> Okay. 84 00:23:18.559 --> 00:23:36.000 >> So there's nothing that heads towards Ducks at this point. >> Right. So they're bringing it all the way back to the pumping station. >> Yeah. >> They'll have one pump station themselves probably. >> Definitely. Probably. >> Yeah. 85 00:23:36.000 --> 00:23:56.080 >> Oh, that'll be maintained by who? >> If it's on their property, I'd like to have that be their problem. >> That's what I'm suggesting. and anything, you know, as it comes into our station, we'll take care of everything on out, >> right? With all the safety precautions, 86 00:23:56.080 --> 00:24:12.159 rag catchers and everything else that needs they design specs. You haven't looked at any of that yet. >> They haven't gotten that any any of that stuff out. I think they're waiting for preliminary agreement before they probably design that. >> I would I would try to push that off on 87 00:24:12.159 --> 00:24:28.559 them to take care. You don't need another one on the list, but see, see what they say. the quick just on that same thing. They're going to have one meter, water meter. >> Right. I heard that before. >> Okay. Have everything comes to the pump station. We'll meter it. We'll check it 88 00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:44.320 on our end just to make sure that nothing's funny happened. We'll be making sure they don't have infiltration problems based on whatever the flow is from the beginning. So, we know this leakage and all. But, it's going to be we have a group to you guys maintain it. 89 00:24:44.320 --> 00:25:01.279 you take care of it under a superintendent's direction. >> So, one common water meter and then they'll separately meter their units. >> And we'll have meters for the sewage, too, because you can using the pump curves and whatever. We can come up with the number that way. >> Yeah, we've put it in line meter for me. 90 00:25:01.279 --> 00:25:16.159 >> So, we're checking the water meter reading and sewer sewage because there's only one the only other place there is going to if somebody want to hook up would be all the mo. It's only And then you got >> He actually has the NIU from Thunder before. >> Yeah. And that's why he goes by. This 91 00:25:16.159 --> 00:25:30.960 saves him. That's I didn't know that. That's important. That's really good news. >> Yeah. >> Because I was out. But hey, Wally, by the way. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I actually ran into them somewhere and we were talking about it. >> Um, >> perfect. >> But Gretons is down there, too. Yeah. 92 00:25:30.960 --> 00:25:47.679 That they could possibly um put a >> bath be good for them out. I mean, they have a toilet body, you know. So, >> so it's a it works for everybody. >> Um, so look at the I know we just got this yesterday. Everybody want to look 93 00:25:47.679 --> 00:26:02.960 at it and if there's anything clearing we again we can meet to just approve it next steps or I don't know if anybody's looked at it. >> I have not um my comment would be this is all 94 00:26:02.960 --> 00:26:18.720 just my there's a lot of people involved here. Most of them are not us ready. >> I would defer so thinking out loud now to the attorneys to come up with the right answer. >> Okay. >> So, we're not slowing it down. You know, 95 00:26:18.720 --> 00:26:34.400 I think this is pretty straightforward. They're going to pay us 100,000 our point. I think that's $100,000. They're going to take care of what we need to take care of. And if our attorneys, town council is happy with it, I think we're happy with you kind of thing. As opposed to the other one was different. >> Okay. you know. So, 96 00:26:34.400 --> 00:26:52.000 >> so I'll send I'll send this out to them and um wait for a response. >> Yeah, just not not slowing it down, >> right? >> Cuz the number is the right number. >> I see the number. That's all I >> Yeah, exactly. Yeah. 97 00:26:52.000 --> 00:27:09.440 >> Um that's all we have on the agenda. Anybody Welcome, L. We'll make that official. >> Thank you. >> Um anybody have anything else? So >> just between us uh just for the record just a motion not a motion but a comment to thank Bill Watson 98 00:27:09.440 --> 00:27:24.480 >> Watson for his many many years of service. I didn't realize how much until we got to know each other a little bit in the last year and a half but you know he goes back to the original sewer design he was involved in and doing other things with town 99 00:27:24.480 --> 00:27:44.919 >> commission for what five seven eight years. Yeah, he was he was a great asset. >> Yeah. >> You know, he brought a lot to the table. >> Yeah. So, just make that acknowledgement. You know, >> a lot of other town jobs he had that he brought the experience here, >> right? >> All right. >> Thank you. Thank you. 100 00:27:45.600 --> 00:27:52.559 >> Motion motion to adjourn. Second. All >> in favor?