open up the December 9th uh sewer commissioners meeting 2:30. Uh Elaine Fiori I, >> Bill Watson, I Ryan Rano, >> and I don't see anybody on, so we'll go right into the meeting. Uh commitments, we have a real estate uh transaction for
$95,55.50 50 cents. And then a an abatement for um a broken outside spigot for 13 Old Orchard Lane, which we had talked about adjusting to the correct amount of
$18,2.30 rather than a $1,52.25. So just one motion or two motions for those. >> I'll make a motion to couple. >> A second. All in favor? >> I. >> And um from this point I'll turn it over
to you. You Dave and Jeanie jump in whenever for the financials and everything else. >> Okay. Um so Jeanie and I started working on trying to get a wrap up of FY 24, 25,
26, and 27. uh we started that project and what we're trying to do is basically put in uh all the details to make sure that we have everything covered from the time I took over through now. Um including we're putting in the town reports for
each year, the articles from each year. Um we haven't quite finished it, but we've started at least wrapping some of the data together. We've constantly been interrupted with other projects. So, um, we're just going to continue working on
that as we go, uh, to make sure, um, everything carried through each year shows up accordingly. So, >> very good. That's a big task. >> Um, you know, trying to include in that what our goals were for the year and what we actually accomplish for the year. So whether it's maintenance
related things or uh changing the floor rates and budgetary things on that end just so we kind of can look at one document and see a summary for that year and a quick snout chart. >> Perfect. So when we finish uh we'll report the
complete uh document but um we've also started talking with some of the other departments about setting up our new betterments for any people coming on the system. We have a couple at country club way. We also have the laundromat that's
kind of coming up and there's a lot of building permits that are starting to develop. So um >> right >> it's going to be a collaborative effort between the assessor department collectors department uh finance
director and Genie and myself. So um that process with everything going on trying to get the tax uh information out at the end of the year and other departments being kind of choked up right now. Uh we've just kind of put it out there that we want to meet but we
haven't set up a date yet. >> Okay, that's fair. So that's forthcoming as well. Uh plant operations and staffing. The operation at the plant is going well. We continue to take in a lot of septage. Um
staffing. We're still short on staff. I put in two requests and job descriptions to the HR department. Haven't heard anything back yet. So I'm going to follow up with a reminder this week. Um, one of our staff members that's out on
injury is doing physical therapy and his progress is coming along pretty good. So, we're hoping um to see that person back maybe the end of the year, beginning of next year. So, >> Oh, good. >> January hopefully.
Um, and on that same staffing issue, which kind of rolls down to item eight on our agenda, is um I had someone from Mass Maritime reach out and he's looking to do some sort of uh co-op or volunteer
to build up his grade five license so he can go from um his, you know, basically build up his hours to become come a full 5C licensed operator.
>> So, um I reached out to HR to see if we can do anything, you know, with within the town, if we have any sort of co-op programs or anything like that. And at this point, it looks like unless we interact with Mass Maritime and see what
their co-op programs, if it would fit with us, uh the immediate solution would be to have him come in on a volunteer basis. >> Okay? >> And just volunteer. He's available for about a month, so I'm going to reach out with him. I just got this information yesterday from
HR and it seems to be that it would just be one of the surveys for voluntary um service in town and okay, you know, I know conservation has brought in some volunteers and >> other departments as well. So, it seems like it should be pretty straightforward
um procedures just having them fill this out and see if he's interested in coming in. It would be an unpaid, you know, volunteer position. So I'll reach out to him and see if he's interested. But that's assuming the board is comfortable with having this particular individual
with us for couple of weeks to to five weeks. >> I think anytime we can get someone with the right background skill set as he's going for a grade five so he knows what he's doing zero. I think that's great. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Two opportunities for him to get
his hours into. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Great opportunity for students. I think it's very good and I think um you know it's um pleased that you're going to make the time though you don't have any right now to you know take this under your wing. I think it's a good it would
be a good program for all of us like you've been talking with with Mark about um getting people into this field. So >> yeah, I think it's great and being short-handed even though we'll take a little bit of our time to kind of teach them as we go. It's it's good to have an
extra person around to >> it need it. >> Yeah, exactly. >> Just even in the future that just having that relationship with the cadetses and and uh Carl's background there and just everything, it could be a real important asset going forward, you know, when we
start looking for people. >> Agreed. >> Yeah. >> And the way the world is right now, what Mark and I were doing at Civil Lake, there's no money. All these all these funds are gone that we were looking at that. >> Oh, okay. >> And every school is in dire straits for
doing what they're trying to do now. So, this is, you know, it's kind of a different way to do it. But just as an aside, just uh Dave and I did talk a little bit about this idea trying to help Civil Lake because we're talking for Civil Lake, seeing if we could somehow work something out. I'm going to
leave it to Dave because he's again he's out straight. I don't want to add to that, but if there's a way we can help, I would get stick my nose in it to take the burden off him. I know whoever's been operating it, it even if it's only for a month, so it doesn't really help in this particular case, but for the
future be able to help somehow up that way. >> Yeah, I think that's a good good approach too once the staffing is there to support it. >> Yeah, >> we might help them in the long run, you know, to have somebody all you need is somebody >> first set of eyes >> with a grade five, six just to only
grade four, I think. No, it is. Yes, it's a great four. So, someone to oversee it a couple hours a week and then have somebody like that do the other leg work. >> Yeah. So, >> all right. Good. >> Okay. Um
we'll do later. >> 22 Main Street update. So, 22 Main Street was the issue that um there was some connections made to the system that weren't what they originally approved at in 2006.
uh those additional connections and tie-ins were abandoned and um capped at this point. So right now that's a closed issue. Some of those out buildings are going to be um demolished and
taken off site. So I signed off on a uh cut and cap procedure so that they can go in and start taking down some of those buildings. So >> from our end of of things, there's no more roof leaders tied into our sewer
system and the connection is back to the original 22 and 22year meter are connected to our system. And that's >> Oh, good. Good. And everything else that's happening is a result of other departments being involved as well.
>> Correct. and they're working through the continuation of those processes, taking out buildings and having the electricity cut off and things like that. So that's outside our spectrum, but as far as our sewer line, we're back to where we were. So is there any um
>> combination with the attorneys, town council involved that some kind of enforcement action penalties or fees or we now that we're happy with the result is that off the table just you know
if I don't know what the other departments are doing but as far as our department um we're not looking at any enforcement action at this time but if if we feel like that's a direction we should go in. I'm
>> I put on the table and not that we want to do it. We got the end result we wanted and that's just a discussion. I don't want to lose it if that's the case. But if everyone's satisfied, I mean, they came in very
properly and did the thing that we wanted them to do. And I'm I'm happy with that. Just get they get it done and I think they get the message and hopefully send it to everybody else >> and that's it. They put on notice. They reached out. They corrected the situation within the deadline that they
were given. So I I'm satisfied with it. >> Put it to bed in place. We talked about it. >> If town council wants to do something, that's a different question. But I think Yeah. >> Well, they'll bring it back to us. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. You're good. We're good. >> At this point, I'm happy there's no more
rain water coming into our system >> and and all the external buildings are sealed off. So if another department wants to go in that direction, um I feel like we have an up on our plate at this point and they were proactive once the situation was
discovered that they came and addressed it. So >> from my perspective being with DP and other things, 95% of this is just getting it fixed. >> It's you use the you use the stick with the money on it when they start giving you the finger.
>> That's when you use that. Otherwise, Well, that that's it. You know, at the end of the day, pay our fines and don't fix it or fix it and we're whole again. >> Yeah. >> On all sides of that equation. >> Yeah. >> Right. Great. That's great. Actually,
>> uh we're coming around to the time of year that the uh end of year summary town report is due. I want to say that's in January 22nd. Sound about right? >> Yeah. Um, so Brian, maybe you and I can work on that together. You seem to be
able to pull up that nitrogen removal number. >> I just was going through my papers and found that calculation again the other day. Well, this is great. >> Perfect. So Brian and I can work on that. If there's anything that you know, either Bill or Elaine, if you want to add to to that, we can always
>> flow more in. So >> the number keeps going up. Oh, and then that brings me to I think one of my last items was we've been having a tremendous problem with you guys have this reading that >> Yeah. So on um Riverside Drive.
>> Is this mostly down the Ardina? Is this >> No. So that's River Street. Riverside is as you come down from the Cancun towards the Jones River on the right there's a neighbor street. Okay. Um, and they're listed in here independently of the street. So,
it's Riverside Drive, Willow Street, Chestnut Street, Diamond Street, Pearl Street, and whatever you have. >> Does Kun filter into this? >> No. >> I want the complex behind it. All the
apartments. So, all those apartments filter into this. >> Nope. >> Okay. >> So, those come right down Main Street. Yeah, because that that's where I would >> go back down the end something like that at that that complex with the people that are in there. Most of them don't know what these things are.
>> Yeah. No, those those go right down Main Street to the Jones River. >> And you haven't had a problem with that pump station. >> Correct. >> Okay. Okay. >> Is that considered Maine at that point? >> Yeah, >> it is Main Street. >> It doesn't become summer. >> Those come down, hit the light, and then
bangle up into the station. M goes all the way up to the churches. They should be said >> at the point it should be church street and then it should be you know >> church street this way >> there like seven churches there >> and then this keeps going and becomes
summer street father. Anyways they didn't like my idea >> the apartment complex behind Cancun the old drones whatever it was. >> Yeah. >> That gravity feeds down that street to the bottom of the hill. >> Yes. Doesn't the river sites and all those ones block at that location as
well? >> So the ones that come down from the Cancun and the hotel come down Main Street and then take that little left on Brook and come into our station. >> Okay. >> Riverside Drive is on that side street >> pump station down the river that
>> the whole neighborhood ties in and then pumps just a little bit over. Okay. And then flows down hits Main Street. Okay. You're having the problem in the pump station in their comp in that area >> in Riverside. Got it. Okay. So, it's isolated. >> Did you Is that Sorry. Is that the map
of the area? >> Just happen to have a map. >> Well, there you go. >> So, so yeah. So, but so we know we can take the apartment complex out of the Yes. >> It's not apartments. It's it's weekly monthly rental bearings. Yeah.
>> Yeah. It's right >> right there. Right. >> Okay. Okay. So, there's the Jones River pump station. There's Riverside Garage. >> Okay. >> The Cancun is up here. >> Yeah. Okay. >> So, that all flows down and comes into the station, but this neighborhood up
here flows down the back way and then comes back around and hits here and that just pumps a short distance to the crest of the hill >> and then grab >> right above there and then grab >> and it's all residential. >> Yeah. Well, that's that's why I was getting to that other point that
>> coming weekly monthly. >> There is just I happened to go in there because there not too long ago because they were detouring people around. >> And there's a bunch of pe There's a bunch of uh like garages with people fixing cars and stuff down right in the corner.
>> There is. Yes. >> And as soon as you I saw that you mentioned bingo put those. So, um it's been a situation that in the last couple years it's been building up.
Um but it was only maybe two, three times a year we'd have to pull the bumps. >> So now I don't know what's going on, whether it's new residents in the area or new cleaning people coming into someone's house who's using cleaning
wipes or if it's a new newborn with baby wipes. But something's changed in the neighborhood and there's somewhere around 70 to 80 houses involved. So we started putting out flyers today. >> So we're going door to door with these
and dropping them in in their boxes. So if you look on the front and back there's pictures of just this past week what we were pulling out in these parts. >> Doesn't float. It doesn't do anything. >> This is a universal problem too. This isn't just
>> I'm surprised we haven't had this problem sooner. >> We did during co it it picked up right all over the place all over the town. >> So what we've uh what we've done is we've actually gone in and we weren't sure if it was the pumps getting to an
age that they just weren't having enough momentum to push >> whatever them up. >> Um so we had that looked at. The pump seems to be operating fine. Um, we had a problem in the station with a control
that controls the pump on and pump off issues. So, we've addressed that. And then we've had a pump truck come in about every two weeks, start sucking these rags out, starting about a month ago. >> And Friday, we had a high level alarm at
the at the station. Um, Saturday we ended up pulling the pumps. One day I went down with the guys, pulled the pump out, cleaned all the rags out of it, set it back in, tested it out, and it ragged up again. >> So it's it's an aggressive issue. So now
we we decided to put this letter out. Hopefully this will resolve the issue. >> Yeah, >> that's fantastic. If it if it doesn't, then we'll take the next step is start popping manholes and try and figure out where this flow's coming from, you know, which particular street and then narrow
it down if we can. >> Yeah. Because like you saying in the fly it's costing thousands of dollars to to keep up with the problem. >> Oh yeah. And we're short staff right now. We're trying to deal with other issues and we're having to keep going over here for overtime calls and just
daytoday activity. It's really tying our hands up. So, we've gotten to the point that uh you know, now it's doortodoor with some leather. So, whether it's the street or anyone in town, flushable wipes may flush, but they don't go through the pumps. Yeah. So,
essentially, that's what we're wrestling with is material that just once it combines with a couple other pieces, it's almost like a rope. >> Oh, yeah. They're wicked. Yeah. Wonder if there's a way to uh I'm just thinking a lot. I know other towns, other sewer systems have done this by putting
trash wrecks. I mean, maybe we're thinking about it sitting certain manholes. Not all of them. You put one like you have two >> lines coming in. I think there are at least two. Put a trash rack on this outlet and this outlet. So there's not coming down this one. Forget that. Now take that one and put it over here. And
they just go backwards up the system. Yeah. And boom. >> It's those five houses. Mhm. >> That might be the way to and it's a big trash. I mean, it's not like it's going to stop a lot of stuff, but it's going to get those. >> It'll catch that. So, at least you'll be able to define, you know, is it is it paper or these disposable wipes coming
from, you know, whatever direction it is. >> And they have it'll fit right in the in the uh in the invert, you know. So, >> let's hope we don't have to go there because there's more resources and time and energy to >> Well, yeah. Just put getting it soon. Just >> Yeah.
nuts. And then and if the pumps are not the youngest pumps and you do break a shaft or something or with a propeller on the thing, >> now you're talking a whole different problem. >> Right of an operator. >> Yeah. You're right on top of it.
>> Put this on the website. >> So if it's not on, it's on as well. >> Oh, very good. Very good. More people know, the better off we are. Very good. U and then shortly um we're going to
have to start getting into our FY27 budget. So that'll be something that we're also working on while all this other stuff is going on. So a lot going on in the department and it never stops. >> A gentle nudge for staff would
>> Yes. Yes. >> Because that'll be at least a while to hire someone anyway. So, you can at least start to get posted. Okay. Anything else you'd like to share? >> Uh, at this point, I think that covers
just about everything I have. That's an immediate issue. >> Oh, and uh, just one other thing, too, is we had a generator issue at one of the bigger pump stations. So, the two primary pump stations in town, Jones River and Rocky Nook. I was telling Elaine about this earlier. Um the
generators that power those stations, they do an exercising schedule once a week. They'll start on their own, go through their exercise. So today we had a problem with the Jones River pump station generator. It went to do its exercise and went into fail mode.
So we have a technician coming out by day end today to look at that. So hopefully that's a >> Did you manually override it to see if it was working? So, we did get to go in there and manually start it and it did start. >> Okay.
>> So, I'm thinking we had a similar issue about four years ago over at Rocky Nook Station that there's a diaphragm in the carburetor side of that. It's like a pressure valve >> that's supposed to hold pressure until it goes to start again. The valve will
open and the pressure is already there. So what happened at uh Rocky Nook was that diaphragm was losing pressure. So when it went to start next time, there was no pressure in the line. It would go crank over two or three times before it built enough pressure and then it would
go. So I'm hoping that it's just that pressure issue >> in this cold weather. The last few days if it's if the diaphragm is on its head last legs, it gets cold, it'll crack and it'll leak. >> Yeah. But with the moisture coming from the gas, it's >> Yeah. Well, just a combination, but it just the fact it's been flexing that
much. It starts to wear out >> and you get a little crack probably and it's that it's leaks a little bit, then it leaks more and less more and then you get the frost, this cold weather, you know, it was seven degrees this morning. >> Oh yeah. Yeah. >> Yeah. But
>> that's very important for a couple days. >> Other than that, the plant is working great. All our numbers are coming up across awesome this time of year. So, and we're still getting quite a bit of sage coming in from different plants that have had those issues. So,
>> Oh, good. >> Not that they're having issues, but good. They're coming to us. Yes. >> And um one other side note is Jeie put out a notice to all the haulers that come January 1st, we're going to our new septage rate. So,
>> you just want to have a penny? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Going up to seven cents. >> Just going back to staffing real quick. the the position that we had available is that out for we had injuries I think you said you said you had some people coming in
>> so for the additional staff at the plant and the additional staff to help in the office here town hall with Jeanie I did a new job description on both of those and sent them into HR and I haven't heard anything back yet
>> it's been what three weeks >> probably two and a half weeks both for the operator and probably three and a half for the uh assistant for >> so and I know there's been a whole lot of things going on with other departments in town. So I'm going to put
a gentle reminder tomorrow to HR and follow up with some of that stuff. >> Hey, good. It was just the more help you get. Yeah, considering we just went through a list of uh things that we >> The guys have been doing great though.
They all step up and do exactly what's needed to be done. So they in Friday night deal with a high level at a pump station, came in Saturday, pull the pumps together. So >> luckily we have a great staff, >> but you can only do so much too. So
hopefully we can get that resolved soon a little bit later because it is a physical job. >> You know, it it it wears on you >> and a dangerous physical job. >> Yeah. >> You're tired. >> Tired with the environment you're in. It's cold and all these different things. And when we have one guy out
because of the snow, that's I I'm surprised more people didn't get hurt that snowstorm a year ago. Good. Um, and I just uh got a um
HD sent a memo about um what PF PFAS and residual technology and management study. They um came to some I'll just read the the summary. It says conventional sludge man
management capacities will likely increase will likely decrease I'm sorry both within and outside of Massachusetts affecting disposal costs regionwide. There are options to improve sludge management including expansion of conventional sludge management
capacities. Additional sludge volume reduction, new PFAS treatment facilities and source reduction of PFAS before waste water enters treatment plants. uh wastewater treatment plant operators,
regulators, and legislators can take specific actions related to extending the available sludge disposal capacity and to promote PFAS's reduction in destruction technologies. Just yeah disposal costs increase and
>> yeah just for cl is the way it's >> oh pest okay >> pest and poa different ones that's that's the jargon that's everybody in my business deals with for the last seven years >> anyway but I don't very much that our
particular sludge as it's all residential for the most part and some commercial but not the kind that would have pest in it >> okay >> um So I I'm not sure. I think that's something probably that Dave needs to look at. Just our sledge goes somewhere else anyways to Atlanta, right? In
somewhere >> it does. >> Yeah. >> But you know, I know like say the water department is dealing with PAS regulations as well. Um and to Brian's point, we shouldn't have any coming in right now. We don't do any testing for
that. in judging by what you see on the horizon. I imagine Brian you could probably speak to this but I imagine it's it's going to come someday. The focus just quickly the focus on PAS I had a lot to do this with DP and EPA when this first came out it said time
out focus on water drinking water only >> okay >> because PAS is everywhere it's in your jacket my jacket those seats the rug everywhere I mean everywhere and uh the limits that
are on PAS for testing to become problematic I mean pots per trillion So you will find it if you look for it. >> Wow. >> Okay. Now that being said, most like our town, I doubt there's any in our in our towns one. There's no source for it.
Same. That's another reason why the method of sewage. You have to have you'd have to be doing something weird to get it. And and once it's on a material, it tends to stay. It's not soluble in that regard. Once it's in the material, it's used for fireproofing. It's all kinds of
stuff. But um that's why I I think the sewage end of this is a lot less problematic. But if you have a tax is going to be spending two or three million dollars to take care of the PAS in their drinking water.
>> They have one of their wells are in the vicinity of their old landfill >> and that seems to be the source the connection. We don't have that problem but it it gets expensive. It's pretty easy to treat if you know what you're doing. But that's the kind of the quick you
could talk all day about PAS. >> Good news is not on our horizon. >> I don't think I I really don't think from our collective perspective we're going to have a big problem and we're sending it to Rhode Island. They'll probably test it, but it's going to a landfill. So that's the secure area to put it anyways because it's capping a
landfill. All of those things make it >> okay. >> Not a big deal for us. >> Good. And what I what I could see is potentially down the road that is having us maybe test whoever's taking our sludge pump may want to test.
>> Yeah, that's >> or something to say, hey, you know, let's at least see what your baseline is. If there's if there's no PAS in it, >> we're not going to charge you extra. If there is, then maybe they apply it that way. So hopefully >> that makes sense. I imagine like
everything else if they start tightening down regulations it'll it'll come our way in a you know my lifetime or the next guy we go >> it'll come >> the current administration and EPA being run by that current administration is
pulling back on all this pushing forward so it's becoming a state issue rather than EPA top down issue. It's each state is taking the responsibility more directly you know. So if you live in Alabama or Florida, you don't care. But if you live in Massachusetts, you care.
Or Connecticut or, you know, California. But that's the way it goes. So okay. Um and then we after this we will be adjourning to go to the water
department joint meeting. And you know this just a copy of theou that Jeie has given to Stacy. We got favor that last meeting. >> Okay, good. >> I'm sorry. >> Coming back.
>> That uh this is what we had pretty much. >> Oh, this Okay, I'm sorry. Now, >> is this what the provision is the revisions that we you brought? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And um No, we'll talk with them and see what their input is. And um probably about an hour ago, Eric Cron
sent out an email um asking to get together next Tuesday to discuss theou. So I just told him we were meeting with the water commissioners tonight and what time does he is he talking about for next Tuesday. So I'll keep everybody posted.
>> Okay. Meeting is necessary. >> Yeah. And I don't know if it's a working session or I just don't have details, but I'll let you know. So on this this water show commission joint agenda this is to discuss tonight. Yes. Yeah. So I'm
prepared that's what this is for. >> Okay. >> On a third item. >> Yeah. >> They want to talk about two other things tonight. So we can uh
>> Thank you. So yes, you they have have a copy of this. Okay, there's five items that Stacy, this is just for TV, that Stacy sent to Stacy based on the the list you had put together, Brian, about things we
can try to collaborate on going forward. >> And those are those will be the two discussions with us, any you know what do you have? Okay, >> I do want to get in this a little bit in detail. Okay. >> Um, and I wanted to show you this. We
talked about this the last meeting because I'm just falling up. Here it is. But this is the uh so you all have a copy of this. I'll give you one. I'll keep the three for the me. But this is this is the um draft from CDM right
now. This is the this document that of a plan that shows where the priority sewers are based on the original facility plan mainly the soul street Milgate wells protect. That's why we're going to bring it up today. But then you got town country up here. These all the
little these 80 p pieces that haven't been cooked up. >> Yep. And then I have area six on here evaluation only that came out of the contamination issues that we found might have been directed to there with the board of health at Grace Beach although we found that May 22 main might have had part of that too. Uh and then it
connects to the uh this part street most of these are very except for town and country are very town important for one reason or the other. And this is the document I'm going to be using when we talk to all
the different boards again soon in the next six weeks. >> Okay. >> Have some joint meetings. But I want to make the water commission is the number one priority here. >> Yeah. >> Our wells, our water, their water, whatever we want to look at it. >> And uh and and it's based on this study
was done by CDM. It's the uh nitrogen uh total maximum daily load study that was done for the Jones waterershed. So, I'll be bringing in the Jones Watershed Association because at the end of the day, I want to make sure I think I've said this 20 times, but I do not want
this commission fighting to do this alone, >> right? >> It's they're as much if not more involved making this happen than us. And after going through what this board went through with the leeching fields, I said, "No, no, no, no. We're not doing this again."
>> Well, that's it. What we do, this this is for the whole town. It's it's not has nothing to do with sewer customers other than it's an avenue to protect the drinking water in town >> and it's the most cost effective
um >> to pick up these properties I should say areas and then I'll just uh I can give this one if you want it. This is a copy of the working contract with
proposal with with CDM and you just if you pass under Gene two after I I'll send this to you electronically. I just want to make sure I copies actually nobody has to see that from uh >> the date
of 14. >> Yeah, this is this is actually this is this particular version is a week ago. >> Oh, okay. >> Oh, okay. Okay. So, it's been a working document since August. I started working with them and we've had many changes and and things. But the bottom line is this
now has gone up. I think I told you to about >> this is a 30% design proposal and the bottom line is on the last page. It's 610,000. That's the engineering design. Yeah. for 30%.
>> 30% and that's all. So most of this is survey getting the base survey >> okay >> 30% design the the the figure that I gave you shows the length of sewers that are involved with each of those sections to get an idea and our discussion will be you should have the
money to do this already appropriated I think but as we get into the final design targeting which one of these might we might want to do it set all at once we may want to do it piece by piece focus on >> South Street that area first uh but And you know, Bottle Street, I mean, it's
got so much benefit. And then there's so many things here that could >> And that's it. Are there circets that can be done? >> Yeah. And there it's a lot of straight sewers. There's only six or seven pump stations. >> Oh, okay. >> And it's not that bad. So, it's uh and then keeping Dave and everybody involved
with the engineering make sure we accept what they're doing. But I we're we're getting down to the point where I want to stop making sure that it's considering budgets and all that. You know, who's going to pay for it? Everybody's looking at overrides everywhere, >> right? >> And then but
if we go forward with the getting this done ASAP so we can get on the priority list is critical and we got to do that by Juneish. Okay. >> So we have to have enough information to go get them on the on the priority list. have CDM put us in the parallel so we
can be getting SRF money 2027. >> Well, that's it. It's all being shovel ready. >> Yeah. >> So, do do you want me to look into the money that was appropriated at town meeting if we can? >> Yeah. the 1.9 well Jean has a sorry
>> so the question the le was a seven >> million 43,000 >> and with the reimbursements and what we still need to be reimbured if you want to like 66,497,000 would you be able to use the rest of the
money on that loan >> that's what we have to look at it's the language of the article okay >> it seem like it cover engineering and everything the way I read it and >> that would be in the we saved 1.8 8 million. So that's part of that save that money that we have left.
>> Yeah. I mean it's Yes, we'll >> Okay. >> Yeah. I think >> the council >> just to get everybody here you know where where the starting point I've been letting like the board of health know um
Valerie know planning u conservation know that just to get them you know and somewhere in the next after Christmas but we'll start having a more get one meeting and have us jointly have a meeting but have the water come up commission say you know we get it
we'll see how this tonight goes No, this is all good stuff. Thank you for doing this. This is comprehensive. >> Does anybody know the bullet to the water commissioner meeting? How about the metering
sharing cost of me? Is that just for we would just share with the customers that we have >> or they going to have to share the entire >> When I put this on there, yeah, the question had come to me about us sharing of the meters. The first thing I said was no. Who should be paying for the meters is
the users just and I think they're going to come out with that's what they're going to do. They're, you know, this should be it's 300 $400 a meter. >> Put 50 bucks to a month or a quarter >> on everybody's users, you know, every
users and pay for it that way. I mean that this is not this should not be coming out of and and the other the part and I I don't want to say this. I want you guys to say it. >> We want TV. >> I want it to be said that we want to
work with these guys and that any way we can save money, we will. But >> but it's a water meter. >> But it's a water meter. >> Reading water, not sewer. And >> other than we get the benefit of taking the calculations from
>> if they want to prioritize where the water meters gets fixed, anyone is a sewer customer picks them first. Their shortage of revenue is our shortage revenue. >> That's what I've passed on. >> Yeah. No, I I agree with that 100% as
far as getting prioritizing. >> Nobody wants you paying more. And if they're paying less, they don't mind. But they have to they're paying more because it's reading funny and other troubles on the >> to be ahead.
>> Well, we'll discuss a little bit. So, >> it's just being forthcoming. That's all. >> And money only goes so far. So, for us to take on a burden for a water meter that should be the customer paying for their water meter. At least we can ask
when we get there, but they replacement water meters. Is that what it is? A new one operating new water meters and and I've gotten some information. I passed some more things on this week to the chair of the water commission, but the idea is that they're going to be sophisticated enough to know if there's
a leak. How sophisticated is a question, but um like if you leave your toilet running, that might not be might that's one of the things you put in your own house. you can tell where you set it kind of thing. These are going to know that if the water keeps running
constantly and it shouldn't, they'll know. And if it goes over a certain gall, they'll they'll be able to talk a little bit about it. But the idea is they'll know when there's a leak and if it's if even if they uh it's kind of
like isolating the the rags, >> they're going to know this meter has been running like for two days now. >> Okay. fix that. What's be going on? What's going on there? So, see if there's water bubbling up in the street, whatever. Uh, but it's much better than what they have now.
>> And that's a good thing. >> Very good. >> Jeie, you have anything? >> No, I'm trying to catch up on some projects. >> Um, nobody's online, right?
No. Okay. >> Then that's >> if um nobody has anything else, we'll uh adjourn and meet at the water department at 4 >> and >> rejourn. So the motion that we adjourn this
meeting to water commission at 4:00 and reopen up that favor. So I f