All right. At 6:30, we'll call the meeting to order. CO 19 historical commission, Kingston Historical Commission present are Jim McKenna, >> Don V, >> Linda Regaza, >> Tom Vendetti, and Greg Dolton chair. Um, first thing we'll take a look at the
minutes uh of last September minutes here and these were sent out either yesterday or today. you had a chance to look at them. I had a couple comments. Uh >> we're doing September 1 and August as well.
>> Yeah, I missed the August. >> Can send those. They don't have a print out. >> Anybody have a print out? >> August. Yes. >> Okay. >> We'll copy that then. >> Sorry.
>> Well, yeah. I'll let you get those out. We'll hold off until while we're copying the minutes. Yeah, one of the points you guys were making was about the date of incorporation. Oh,
and I just for the heck of it I I um on Google AI I typed in what date was Kingston Mass Incorporated and it comes with June 16th >> was it? >> That's what it says. Whether they're right or not, who knows?
>> I'll I'll see if I have information on that. It certainly would be in the in the town record. Um you know, the record book. Um, you know, AI, uh, you look up my name and it says, uh, prominent historian, which of course is
a lie. >> Did you put that in there? >> No. It also says that I was a former employee of the Quinsey Patriot Ledger. I never worked I never volunteered at the Quincy Patriot Ledger. So, you have to really kind of watch what they >> Maybe there was another one.
>> Maybe there was another work. >> I don't know. my doppel gangaras. >> Yeah. >> But um yeah, it's weird. Yeah, you have to really kind of watch those AI things. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. >> Yeah. >> I'll look that up anyway about the
incorporation. >> Well, um John was asking about the last meeting and um because there was another date they were looking at. You want the town incorporation or the >> we when he comes back because he was doing it for the uh
town and then of course there is the the parish which is which is a different thing >> different corporation as I recall I think the parish was in November
um of 1717 what the Okay, before we get into that, before we resume the meeting, um thank you. >> Speaking of AI, speaking of AI, my cousin, um we went
out to eat with them over at achievement over normal the other week or so. And this is the table we're at. Here's a picture they took. Okay, so show John. Show John. I want to show you some technical stuff for AI.
That's it now. Okay. So, he's showing me what he can do with his Google Pixel phone, right? And they take a still picture and you can just tell I don't know it's not Siri, but whatever is do this >> and it'll do that. So, this is the real
picture and this is the video that he made doing it. But it so everybody can see. >> So, it was a still picture to start with. And then AI just made up. >> You see this guy coming in? >> Yeah. >> Grabbing something off the table, eating it. >> And he told him to he told AI to do
that. Have somebody come into the picture. >> Oh, it looks like >> it is. It is. So they can do anything. I wouldn't believe anything on TV. Hit the plate. >> Can't believe anything any. >> Yeah. He just walks in. I don't know where he got the picture of the guy, >> but this came up because of the June
16th thing, the date of operation. And I asked AI today, what was the incorporation date? AI says June 16th. >> Yeah, it is 16. >> June 16th >> and that's the town at 1726. Yeah.
>> Okay. Um well, let's start with September 4th minutes. And under mail, I would just say um there wasn't any male press really to discuss that day. put that out
and I didn't have any comments on anything else basically. Anybody else have anything? >> No. >> Fine. >> So, I need a motion to pass them as amended. I'll move to uh
>> pass the minutes of September 4th. >> Second >> as amended. >> 2025. >> Second. Done. All in favor? I unanimous statement.
All right. August 13th. Um see give a moment. I didn't get to see this today. Right. Thanks. Um, okay. 273 Pembo Street under there.
>> Yeah, >> that was Lynn did some deep um D research. I did very little, but did the majority trying to remember on this um this was in August.
>> Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. Good. >> Oh, hello. >> Hi. >> Hi. Have a seat over there. Right. Right there. >> I'm hop.
>> Yes. I went to my other event and then I flew here. >> Great. All right. >> Um Christy Costa from Windgate. >> Yeah. >> And Craig Dalton, chair. Um Tom Videtti. >> You jump out. Yeah,
>> we'll be we're just finishing the minutes here, but we'll be waiting in a sec. >> Okay. Um, so that thing is mine. Good. Yes, I was absent that meeting so I'll present
a minute. >> Well, um just a little maybe I'm missing something here, but so August and where Lynn went to do research. >> Yeah. on the Penroke Street House and I actually met her there and we worked on
it together and then it was reported on at the next meeting. >> Yes. September. >> I don't know. Did I admit it in there? >> It's the demolition permit. >> Oh, the permit. Yes. Okay. Was that how we said? >> So, we probably should end that. Lynn and Linda. >> No, no, no. You don't have to do that.
Don't worry about it. >> Um >> she volunteered at the meeting. >> I looked at that, too, and I'm thinking, wait a minute. Do we just But yeah, you did. Took care of it. Otherwise fine. >> All right. So need a motion to accept the minutes. >> The motion that we accept the minutes is
to um window research. >> Second. >> Second. All in favor? >> I I want abstension. >> Very good. >> All right. So, um, we don't have any bills today and we do have a little
mail, but we'll get to that. We'll skip to, uh, new business and, um, meet Christie Costa from Winggate. >> And you contacted Jim about coming here and
talking about a possible speaker over there, I guess, at Wate. >> Yeah. Um, >> what was yours? >> Oh, thank you. Um, so I'm the life enrichment director, um, which is the activities director at Winggate, uh, at Silver Lake here in town. Um, I've only
been there about five months, but I've done this job in the past at other communities. Um, and I I just think it's really important to engage the residents in the community, especially a lot of them are not from Kingston. Some of them
are, but um I find that a lot of them are from like Dbury or Plymouth or Whitman. Um you know, some of them are from the Northshore and their kids just happen to settle down here and they um they just
were kind of dragged down here. against their will. No, not not in a terrible sense, but um uh so like one thing and of course I don't have anything prepared, but um we have a series of like historic photos
from probably the I don't know 1900s in our main hallway. I I took a couple photos of them, but um I think it would be fascinating if someone knew a lot about these photos and the history. not
the photo, but the piece, you know, like Delano's Wararf, uh, the Jones River Trading Company. Listen, I'm from West Texas. Like, I'm I live in Doy. I've lived there for 14 years, but um,
deep deep American history is not how I grew up. You know what I mean? But I find it really fascinating. Um, so I'm super open to anything. Like when Gemini emailed, uh, you guys apparently had
been talking about me, um, in a good way and you had all these beautiful ideas. Um, you know, the 300th, we would love a lecture on that. Um, uh, we can come to one, we can have one
done at one gate. I'm I'm super open. Um, we would also love to talk about sponsorship of your 300year um, event and your I'm assuming there'll be like a a nice publication. I know we're probably a little late to the game.
>> No, we're the year before, but um, that's not my wheelhouse. I'm just the cruise ship director, the party girl out at Wingate, but um marketing couldn't be here tonight, but they would like information on anything we can do. Um
you know, small sponsorships, half page, blah blah blah, all that stuff. I don't really understand. Um, so, um, you know, anything we can do to support you guys, to support the town, anything that you are interested or able
to do to come and and just give us a little more info. It I'm we're game. >> Our residents are lovely and they just love learning and experiencing things. And that's all I have to say.
>> That's all you have to say. No, but I I I'll go on for an hour. >> So, um Yeah. >> So, that email you have there, is that from you, Jim? Yeah. >> Yeah. Good ideas. Yeah. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, we had talked about it. Well, actually, we didn't talk about it at a meeting. We uh exchanged some
thoughts on email >> uh which I then summarized uh for Christie some of the ideas we had. Um, and as Christie said, you know, trying to um have a talk associated with the 300th or uh a reading or a talk from the
the book that could be done at Windgate um uh I did have a question for Christie. You know, are you looking exclusively for events that go there or are you interested in bringing residents potentially to other events?
>> Yep. But um you know Like my philosophy is like my job is to make their life good. When they come there, they don't want to come live there. >> Yeah. >> Right. Like they stayed at home as long as they could. They probably lied to
their kids about a fall or two. like by the time they come to us it's usually like kind of not not critical status but um >> we have an independent group which you would really not call them independent probably if you spent time with them but
um and we have assisted living and we have memory care um and these people all need our help um but I try to provide them as much normal se as I can and that means going we went to TJ Maxx yesterday we went well we didn't really go apple
picking because it was cold, but we we picked apples out of the bins at CN Smith Farm. Like, so yeah, whatever. Like honestly, anything anything you suggest, I'm going to be like, let's do it. Yeah, >> we're game for anything. >> I mean, one thought I think we had
talked about it on email, but Tom, you know, you're um uh something of your tours in the cemetery. I was the old burying ground. I was thinking could be a pretty popular. Oh, that's gonna be really popular. >> Well, I know I thought about the sensitivity to that, but I do think
>> it would be a Carolyn Carolyn Raven. >> Yes. >> And Dbury does. >> I know her, too. She's been very helpful to us. >> Yeah. >> I I love that. >> I think it's October 5th, 2026. We're having a house tour here in Kingston as
part of the 300th uh uh anniversary. And uh I I'll be at the first parish church and I'm going to give uh basically a little lecture on the three meeting houses and and what what church was like, you know, back in the 18th
century, things of that nature, you know, and I'll have displays of different things there to show people, you know, artifacts and communion silver, things of that nature. And then I'll take people out to the burying ground and do a brief tour of the burying ground. Um, I can take them to a
major general's uh monument, for example, a William Siver, a great patriot. I can take them there. Um, and to and I can take them to the the tombstone of a man who's 107 when he died. Things like interesting stuff like that. >> Yeah. >> You got to understand though, it's it's
very it's kind of rugged. uh it's not like walking on a nice fine lawn and also there are footstones which are very small okay which are easy to trip over so you would have to make sure that people um are very uh well uh in terms
of blocking but also have staff there to be able to make sure that they do not fall because I mean it would be horrifying if that ever happened the other thing is um I'm part of the um the book committee 300 Kingston 300th Inc.
which is a we are a nonprofit which is creating a book and we're very close to printing. It's going to be about 400 pages long and it's going to be four pounds. Do you believe that? They told me four pounds. I'm going what are we what are we what have we made? Anyhow, we're gonna have a lecture series and u
and I'm going to do the um uh the independence, the brick independence which was built here in Kingston during during the revolution when Massachusetts was at war with Great Britain. >> We started it. We went to war with Great Britain before anybody else did here.
And uh it's an interesting story and there'll be other lectures that'll go on. >> Yes. >> And I can do other things too, >> you know, other other topics. I've written about a number of topics in the book so I could come down and talk. Um,
you know, I would prefer to wait till 2026 because we have to get this book >> Yeah. >> uh, published and and we have to start selling it >> and so they can attend wherever this is going to be. Hope it's the Adam Center, but >> um, wherever it's going to be. So,
>> yeah. >> Um, as a >> additional thing to whatever we can do. >> Sure. and your tour, your tour of the cemetery, >> you know, maybe can have a thing where they come and they just get the the uh talk inside the church and about houses
rather. >> Absolutely. >> Absolutely. You know, or we could we the cemetery is is within view. It's right next it's next and behind the church. So, we can walk over to the to the wall and they can look over and actually see
see the cemetery. And they can see maybe walk in a little bit and see a couple of the of the stones. And I can actually show them pictures of the stones and the different styles of of of the stones because during different ages they were different styles. And there are three
great artists that that made those stones. We among the greatest in New England. >> We're very fortunate. It's really an open air museum. It's a it's a lovely place. >> So um yeah. So, uh, if you could you have your card by some chance? >> Of course not. No.
>> Well, >> I I can I can forward the email content. >> If you could do that and also we are looking for sponsorships. Y >> because uh this book is enormously expensive and we're we're not in
trouble, but we have to do some pretty fancy financial stuff to get it to press. >> Yeah. Yeah. Um, anything? Yeah, I don't know. >> I don't know much of anything about that, but but I did talk to our
marketing director and she's definitely wants to be a part of it. Um, are you having like a like a pamphlet? Is that the pamphlet or >> tradition? The the town has committee that set up for events. So, this is >> preliminary now, but this is what our
events are going to be and then the book is its own >> uh private entity. >> Yeah. So, um, >> and neither of them are part of the historical commission. >> Yeah. >> These are all these are >> many of members of Here's my card. I'm
also the archivist. Well, >> look at that. Here we go. Extraordinary historian. That's what it says. >> Here's my Yeah, here's my uh card for the for the book. Okay. Um, that has And I have my cards for the archive, too. But um Yeah, you can give me a call. We
would we would need um uh if you wish or if your director wishes to make a donation, it would have to be fast because we're we're setting everything up like right now. And um and we can do it, you know, and I we can, you know, be
have full page ads, I suppose, but I don't know, you know, whatever whatever you want. >> Yeah. Okay. >> So, you can get the in the marketing person's name to to us through Jim. >> I'll I'll connect Christy and Tom directly I think because that seems to be with the potential
talks and things like that and then >> um I'm happy to stay online or or maybe the the marketing director can sure >> work directly with Tom. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. >> Yeah. And it might be her or it might be
our executive director. Um probably either or but I know she said like over a certain dollar amount. I think it was I don't know. >> Well, whatever. you know, >> have to go to corporate, but um >> there's there's lots of options. >> By the way, I'd be will I will go to
Windgate for any lecture or presentation that I'm making. >> Yeah, >> people don't have to come to me or the church. >> I was going to say as far as our outings and I should have said earlier, but like our only limitations would be like we can't really do like probably anything
past 5 or 6 PM. Um >> well, I'm retired. I can I don't do much. >> For me, I'm like, >> um, and then and then yeah, we do, as long as we understand the layout, if we're going to be doing like a cemetery
tour or something, then we know perfectly well who's capable of of doing it safely. So, >> you can meet me down here some afternoon. We'll just Yeah. check out the church. We'll see what it's like. It's it's pretty >> It's pretty simple, >> I would say. like um probably 80% of our
people use a walker. So kind of any >> cars are kind of a >> or maybe a one little step if we're assisting, you know, us, not you guys. Um but we we're good with knowing our capabilities and what we can do with >> we have a ramp that goes into the
church, by the way. So that's that makes it real easy. Yeah. Yeah. Did you drink? You said you have pictures of the pictures that are >> I took a couple today just because I was um thinking about it. >> And John, are those I know those are draft activities. Are those up yet on
the website? >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, I can share that website. So, you can look at all the activities going to be running and obviously those would be open to participation as you you would want. >> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. So I think there's
there's there's opportunities with the 300th. There's opportunities with the 300 book. And then Tom, you know, has offered >> lectures and you'd be interested. >> I don't want you to feel like that. I don't know your rules, but I don't want
you to feel like that. >> We can pay you. >> No, no. I don't want any I don't want any salary of anything. >> That's my favorite. >> No, this is my hobby. >> Don't Don't ruin my hobby. Yeah, I love people that >> it would be better if if you if if you
have an urge to spend money, do something special for your people. Maybe maybe when I come have a little little bit of food for them or something. I don't know. >> Yeah, there's um there's like three there's probably 12 pictures of the GED.
>> Really? >> Well, that's wonderful. I should bring down some artifacts. Well, you too. We could go down together. We both have some amazing um any like anything for us. >> That is a wonderful photograph. And you
can see the boat house and everything. >> They're all lining our main hallway. >> Yeah. >> They do. Yes, we did. >> Yeah, >> I was gonna say Jane Greabon knows every single image on earth in this town and
she's like I've been there to visit someone >> photos are they're big too. They're you know really nice and they're not ones that I've seen a lot with >> a nice saw a lot of photos.
>> Yeah, I don't remember the pictures. Never seen that. >> There are quite a few there that I've never seen >> really. Yeah. Before anywhere here or doing research on the town warf or anything >> and I like I don't know some I think the maintenance director called me. Oh,
those are like views to the wall because I was like I'm gonna I'm gonna um figure out who who gave us these. But um I was like can we do like a walking art gallery? And then our our marketing director said, "Why don't how could you do that?" Because you have all these
people walkers and you have one person describing the piece. Take pictures. We could have like a photo um journal in our in our theater or in our pub >> where you have like a slideshow. And here's this photo. You guys have seen it every day of your, you know, life here
at Wingate. And um here's the story. I don't know. I just think they're cool. >> Yeah. Um, so that was like always my thought like who not who took them I guess but who who brought them to us and what do they mean to the town and and the only other thing I would say is that
um I would say we have a one-hour time um attention span before we're like and they you know they fall asleep and like >> well no I think I think any any kind of talk >> yeah I taught school for 40 years you
know you can't talked to kids for well actually for probably more than 30 minutes really. You may have to do something >> Q&A or zone out. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. It's all right. Don't worry about that. >> Yeah. So, um I I'm really game for anything. I mean, you guys have a lot on
your plate, so I don't want to burden you by by um asking for things. So, I want it to be like collaborative. Like, can we help monetarily? Um, can we support uh different events and then can
we bring some fun things in to us or can we go to fun events? That's that's a >> Oh, maybe an event can be had over at Windgate. Maybe we can have a 300th >> Kingston birthday event and bring over artifacts and >> Oh, I love it. Yeah. and and have brief
a few brief talks and and uh >> and we can name it, you know, like around >> whatever. Yeah. >> Grog or whatever, >> right? We'll be grog >> I listen I don't know. >> And just we just had our October Fest
party which was really cute and fun. No, >> they would us. >> No, they don't like beer so we had like white wine and um >> martinis. They like >> martini. I got to go. >> The walker is
>> all the secrets. >> Yeah. All right. Let me know then. >> Cool. >> You know, and >> but you have to let me know. >> Yeah. I'm gonna connect you via email. You can, >> you know, talk more directly with Tom about what what might work and de all
that kind of stuff >> and contributions. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I don't know. I don't know what kind of dollar amounts you're looking for, but um you know, companies like this, if they've got it, they'll spend it. It It doesn't hurt me any. Um my budget
stinks, but um the marketing budget >> our budget does, too. >> Yeah. >> Stinks. I'm glad you reached out. I really am. >> Yeah, that's great. >> You guys, um, shall I get out of your hair and let you on here? >> Yeah, I guess so. You're all set.
>> All right. Thanks for coming by tonight. >> Yeah, I'm glad you came. >> You got to let her out. >> I know tonight. We didn't mean to lock you out. >> No, no. I I didn't even know if I was gonna make it. I went to this crazy um
I don't know. My one of my friends invited me. It was like a witch witches spir it was called like >> spirit spirits in the I don't know it was something that the public library
>> spiritual seance not it wasn't a seance >> not my wheelhouse but I was trying to um embrace you know >> thank you guys so much we'll be >> a picture of this wonderful pictures
>> yeah That's exciting. >> Oh, that's interesting. It is very >> All right. So, you two are going to connect and get the funding to be the book book scale. Um, >> and then we'll talk some more maybe about some stuff to do. But, you know,
it's kind of like these pictures. Why don't you buy and refer me to some of these pictures that just kind of oh, what's this from, >> you know? Yeah. It's wonderful that they have been, >> you know, copied and are being displayed. >> I was spoken around the archives today
with Dan over there in Maritime Academy and we had a small room like about this size. He's pulling out all these paintings and stuff and artwork and some of the stuff he's got in there is just like unbelievable, you know? It's like, what is this doing here? And I've never
seen it. And >> um so it's >> you never know what you're going to find. Exactly. >> Yeah. >> But he's doing good putting it up. >> Yeah. >> It's going to be put on, you know, digitally and copied. >> Yeah. It's great. >> All right. Um, see, we got the two minutes done, right? >> Yes.
>> Yes. Good. That's good. We did get something in the mail here, which is interesting. >> No bills. >> No bills. >> We had reminder from the town about the wage and personnel bylaw, which we don't have any wages, so it doesn't really apply to us. The other thing was Main
Street open house. This is a a join the town design team to and design team to talk about the future of Main Street between Evergreen and Summer Streets. This will be an interactive and formal event. Your input will help shape proposed design for grant applications
and future funding. Stacks and beverages provided Monday, November 3rd, 4 to 7 in room 200 here. Okay. And the town planner, I guess, is where the song because she has her contact information there. Okay. Um, so this this is something I
haven't heard about. >> Is this open to anybody or just people on Main Street? >> Oh, it's open to anybody. >> Yeah. >> You know, >> so um yeah, it's kind of like this is an area we tried to get a uh years ago. We tried
to get a historic uh district in there and it was met with venom opposition after a while and eventually we dropped it. actually drove the the uh the head of the committee out of town. He left town because he was upset so upset about
it. But um we had police here detail here one night because the they were certain people were very unruly about it. >> Well, what why? >> Because they didn't want they didn't know anything about it. They didn't >> why historic districts put restrictions. You
can only paint your house this color. Yes, they were worried about >> I don't know if they understood that completely or what was going to happen. >> It didn't matter what said it was boom. So, it dropped. Anyways, but one of the benefits of having a historic district is it controls what can be done on the
the city can do, the town can do, and even the state can do on that street. >> Um, but we don't have that thing now. You know how this the street is there with very little curbing with kind of rustic sidewalks that most of them have been paved over just recently a lot of
trees. Well, I don't know what they're looking for here, you know. So, this is something we should go to because this area is one of the most historic. It's in the local historic uh national historic center district. um some of those houses and the churches
are um you know the other two churches are in there too. So we should make sure we're there. In fact, what night is that? Uh >> it's a Monday night. >> Monday night. >> That's a long time period. >> Yeah. >> From 4 to 7.
>> Well, it's probably a drop in and >> Yeah. >> But I would think everybody would want to hear everything, you know, what was going on. >> Yeah. Yeah. He would think there would be a some kind of presentation first about what's the purpose of >> whatever
>> because I mean what do we have to do there? They have to white it. Do they have to pave it? They have to dig it up. I don't know. So anyways, did that the other thing we had in the mail from the previous meeting was this uh National
Alliance Preservation Commission say they were going to have that um webinar on September 25th sort of contact series. Did anybody attend that? It was free to us. No. Okay. I wasn't able to either. So let's do that. But it's one
of the things being an NAPC member, we can attend the webinars for free. Some of them are pretty good. Okay, that was the mail and we met with Christie number four and okay, old bearing ground tree removal
completion report which isn't completed yet. Um, as you've probably seen, they've been working over there in the cemetery. If you driven by, it's wide almost wide open now. Several trees in the middle they couldn't reach with a crane, so
they're taking them down piece by piece. >> Oh, those big pine trees. Yeah. >> Yeah. I wonder cuz I walked around in there and >> they're going to be coming down. >> I mean, it's so much improved. >> It's really different. >> You can see it from the street and you can say, "Oh, look at that over there." And >> it's good
>> and it's not good. I mean I mean it's like it was pretty before, >> but it's still it's pretty nice now if you look at but it's a whole different look. >> Yeah. It's visible which is good. >> Sunlight's in there. um helping to protect the graves, you know, doing away
with some of that moss, maybe the moisture is going um all that. But um technically the contract was supposed to been done by end of September and we've been I've been talking to them and saying it's not a problem if they go
further. Um, they had rain or a couple days and I think they're probably, you know, underestimated the time it was going to take to do this job because they were thinking they're going to be here a week and now on two weeks and they didn't finish today and I doubt if
they'll finish tomorrow. So, it's going to go into next week too. Um I would assume at that stage when they're done I told them we would submit the bill the invoice which I received um in advance. Basically they they sent
the invoice over um and it's the 49,500 or whatever whatever we u agreed to. Um, but I said we would go ahead and u inspect the property with
with uh their representative, make sure everything's done the way we want it done and then submit the thing to here. And they said that the accountant said they could take care of it within a week, pay them because the deal was when the job's done, we pay. And I told them
it would take about a week once job's done to get that money. So the question is um shall we we don't want to have we could have another meeting again to the final decision but it doesn't make much sense unless you go out there and look around.
So what we could do is let you guys know when that fellow we're going to have the inspection and we could come around. We can't talk about it because it would be a if there's more than three of us, it'd be a meeting, but we can just look around and see what this thing looks
like. Um, and at that point, you know, um, maybe Tom and I can make the decision to to pay it's done or not done, and we'll submit the bill at that time. If the work's not done, if people see stuff
that need to be done, then we won't do it until that work is done. So, if that's uh agreeable with you, you okay with that? >> Sure. >> You can walk around um at cemetery and we'll let you know when
the inspection's going to be. I mean, you can go over there anytime you want. >> Go a few times >> and check it out. And if the stuff you think should be done, let me know um ahead of time and then we can make sure they try to catch it before they leave the area. Um it's probably easier that
way to do. Other than that, once we make the inspection, then if it's done, we'll submit the bill for payment. The work I see u other than those two big trees coming down, might be a little cleanup work to do. Um some branches stuff on
the lynen tree. We're we're going to try to leave that lynen tree there. The opera said it wasn't in too bad shape. Um you know, not bad. He said it was in good shape, but um we may have to cable that tree up in the future. Well, it's
got that V, you know. >> Oh, yeah. >> And um safety wise, we may want to, >> you know, in the future put several cables up there to keep the two branches together. I didn't know they did that. >> Yeah. Cool.
>> Yeah. But that wouldn't be under this contract. So, we do have a little money left over. I think not much though, not enough to pay for that. So, I think that's about the only work that's be done unless there's some cleanup work or there's
some ruts or something that they left and I haven't seen any. They've been doing good work. Um, taking care of stuff. I haven't seen really any broken stones from it. Um, this is the tough part now where they're lowering
everything down, but they seem to be taking very their time doing it. So, it's looking good. >> The the two trees on the green, were those part of it? Are they coming down? >> They were. We looked down. The arborist said they were in good shape, so we're leaving them up. Okay.
>> They're going to stay there. >> And, um, that kind of softens the look, too. You know, people come out the road. >> Yeah. >> Well, you do. They see at least a couple big trees left there. >> And um I don't know if it's been asked or not, but I know we're not grinding,
but is there a plan for the stumps? Um there's a they're going to start sprouting stuff. >> Yeah. I What would be a plan? >> I I don't I don't know if we asked them to if it's something that we can do. I know they used in the past. I don't think that would look good. No,
>> but I didn't know this. Some I've used some stuff on smaller stumps, but it's worked well that you you kind you drill a hole in the middle of the stump and pour this in and that's it. You leave it and go the stump. >> What's in it? >> Yeah,
>> we were told by the Fannons though um or some someone in in the uh working on the report not to grind the stumps. No, I don't know. Maybe we're not literally just a drill hole in the middle of it. >> Pour this powder in. >> Right. Exactly. >> And it
>> kills the the the roots. When it will it just sits there, it will eventually degrade, but it doesn't sprout. >> Yeah. We I think we want would want to talk though because as the stumps, you know, as as the the roots decay, it's if
it does rapidly, it could somehow affect the uh how the the configuration of the of the gravestones. I don't know. Um I I can it'll over time it's going to be affecting the gravestones anyway, but I I don't know. I'm just
>> I agree with John though that if we just leave them, we're going to start getting all these routes coming. >> They will. We'll have to go along with >> Exactly. Yeah. And before we know it, we'll miss a couple years and then there's going to be trees. >> Exactly. So, people won't do it. That's why there were trees there now because
they didn't take care of it in the old days. >> Yeah. Something done. >> You got that the name. >> I'll I'll get the name. >> Take that. I'll take a look. >> Yeah. >> Um >> possibly that we can take care of. Yeah. >> And we can use maybe use that extra 500
in budget for that. >> Yeah, >> that's a great idea. Yeah. >> Yeah. You said it was effective. I was sort of surprised how well it worked for me. >> Yeah. That uh how long did it take? >> That's you you pour it in and nothing
ever sprouted from it. >> Oh, I see. Okay. So, got it. >> Yeah. You should especially do that on the malberry tree. It's not going to be >> really a little one. It wasn't big, but that one he said would spell really quick.
>> Do we need a um motion to authorize you and >> Yeah, why don't we do that? Okay. >> So, you want to do that? >> Yeah. I move to authorize Craig and Tom to inspect the completed work and approve payment of the contract. >> Second.
>> Any discussion then? >> Yep. >> All right. Great. >> All in favor? Okay. I understand. Okay. Um All right. CPA application. CPA is subminent and um the 16th is the due date I think for our
project assessment forms which are basic application thing that we have to do. >> Tom's come up with a few good things. Uh, one was the gate the gate the uh historic gate to the cemetery and the iron gates out front of the cemetery
>> to have them redone. I'm working on getting some estimates. That's just where they are. Um, it's a the rod iron fencing around the front of the church here right there. I've also been taking a lot of pictures
of the stones that are really in rough shape and broken and fallen over and everything and we're going to apply for probably enough money to do like 40 to 50 stones. >> Really? >> Yeah. We'll just see what we can get. Um because there probably are that many and we can include
these guys here. >> Sure, Charles. >> 50 to 60. >> Well, let's go 40 to 50. >> That's the That's the idea. Um, we're probably estimating what, 500 to a,000 on some of these stones. Yes. Some of them broken.
>> The ones we're not going to clean just clean stuff this time. We're going to fix broken. >> Yeah. Uh, listen. Um, I really ask you take care of this stone. >> Um, a few years ago, a branch fell on
it. It's right over near uh Colonel John Bradford Stone. a a branch fell on it and split it. Okay. And I picked up the pieces and put them in a box and they're in my work room and they're big pieces and I'd love it if I could get rid of
those things. >> That would be one of them. Yeah. >> And that's Major John's son, by the way. >> So, you know, that that would be great. >> Which one was is this the current state? >> Yeah. You see how it see how it's kind of like split? That's I guess that's the way it was in the past, you know. I don't know. But um also um you want
>> me to keep this down or you want >> Well, I don't know if you're I just wanted to show it to you. >> Let me take it. Yeah, I'm gonna put it the um there are a lot of fallen stones in in in both parts of the old burying ground.
They're just on the ground, you know, especially over in the where the Civil War ones are. Lots they're just on the ground. And um it would be good to I think there's there's probably about >> some >> 30 of them, you know, I would imagine.
>> Oh yeah, nobody there. >> Okay. >> And um so um I really think that should be included in the number. I mean >> well yeah that we're talking about >> it may not be broken but uh >> but there are some that are broken in
multiple pieces on the ground. >> Yes, there is. This one I think you put on uh just how we came up and did that. >> Yes. Yeah. Right. >> So I've got pictures um taking pictures so we can give that to the committee. >> That would be great. Yeah.
>> Um so that's going to be done but we have to get them in before next week. So or not before next week but like Monday or t Tuesday because Monday's the holiday. All right. the um the date boards. I we
were contacted by a member of the historical commission out in Hadley and um we talked about this briefly before they were interested in our date boards. They liked them. They were wondering what we did. So I sent them the information and I've been trying to get an updated price from Sorama, which is
now in a new ownership again. And um eventually he did send something. So, we went from $135, which it used to be now, to $22, which is quite a bit for a sign board. This is the official Kingston sign board. And I think we need to get that
out there that people can get these sign boards. >> The guy's ready to go. They got some blanks up there. But how would what's the best way can we do this? >> Gee, the 300s here are coming now. You would think that this would be a good time to somehow advertise it.
>> I know. Um I I is something like a a what do they call it? Um the website a website page Kingston local, right? Something like that. >> Quite a few, you know, Facebook pages. >> Yeah. >> And that's a good way to get to a lot of people. >> Facebook, right? That's
>> Facebook. I don't know if it's too much on Instagram, but that's one that a lot of people look at. You put anything in the book like a a little >> Well, yeah, >> at this point we really put ads. We can't put anything in the book. >> That's
>> Well, I would like if if I'm going to get a uh a donation, um I'll I'd like to put an ad in. I'll squeeze it in somehow. Yeah. >> But where >> But that's not the point. >> That is right. But >> um as far as any kind of article goes, no room.
>> Yeah. Yeah, we're really totally >> What about with our is it 300 committee like putting out any pamphlets? >> Um we are eventually going to the I actually this is just fans but we do have a u a town sponsored um Facebook page. So I just made a note um I'll ask
our meeting next week. Okay, we'll do a blurb and we'll send it out for you and with a picture. >> This is what is it? Is that the Jones River Village one? Facebook page. >> Facebook page. No, it's a child. Okay.
>> Yeah, that that's a great idea. Put it on >> and send it to you, John. >> Yes. >> Okay. Um, on that note too, I was telling Tom about it today. I noticed I' been meaning to tell you, John, send this
out. the um one of the box tombs I think Colonial did. >> The one closest to the road, Main Street, >> the cracks are opening up. The stuff seems to be deteriorating out of the filler. >> Okay. >> Oh, yeah. >> And this I think they did that one. Yes,
they did. They did that one because it was covered with a uh uh plywood. >> Was that Was that the first one? >> Yes. >> Okay. I'll contact them >> um to take a look at that. I don't know why it would do that. The others seem to be holding up. >> Okay.
>> But um yeah, we should have that looked at and finish off again, I guess. >> Do you want to hold on to that? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> All right. We need an update on the 300th book project. Okay. Well, um um
right now we'll work on uh the design of the last chapter. We have all the the articles in. Um we're doing um also the acknowledgements and end notes and things of that nature. Um so we're really finishing up in terms of uh
putting the chapter together. We have all the other chapters uh together and um and we look to go to the printer. We we've had a delay unfortunately um perhaps uh by the middle of November
>> and uh we should have the books in a week and we're going to have um a kind of a book launch um I think it's December 3rd at the Font School and um I'll double check that on you. I wish I
had I wish I had my notes with me. Uh, I didn't put it in my phone yet either. >> Go to pre mid November, end of November. >> Yeah, middle of November. And hopefully the books will be able to get a hold of them by the end of November. And um,
yeah, it's uh, it's it's going to be a nearly 400 pages long. It's going to be quite a uh quite a publication and uh, we're very pleased. Now funding is as you can imagine an issue and it's just
the way it is and uh um as far as like u the cash on hand we're doing okay you know but uh we can use a little more so um and then um >> when you say a little more like she's got to get to down like thousands like
say 5,000 >> um what do you think it's >> it's awfully it's awfully it's awfully hard to say Um um I I would imagine um to to pay like you know our editors and and photographer and our designer
probably uh maybe 2,000 or two to three,000 but then what uh but then the printing is going to be enormously expensive. So we have to make uh certain um let's say provisions for that
and uh which we have done and that that is going to be fine and uh so we're we're we're kind of have two accounts going on here so we'll be okay. We have we have received many donations. Uh we're we're very fortunate and we've se
we've received grants as well including funds from uh from Kingston 300 and uh the bloom whistle grant um which was a matching grant. We're waiting for state funds. It's possible.
Um it was one of those end of the year uh things they stuck in the budget and they may give it to us, they may not. You know how they have these little I forget what they call them. Um >> appropriation. >> Yeah, like a little appropriation.
>> Yes, she did. Oh, yes, she did. And God bless her. She's done everything she could for us. And um if that comes through, and they said if it's going to come through, it'll be this fall, then uh everything will be taken care of. So, >> but so
how much do you think you should ask for you know like are we talking like oh can give us no do you need to do this how much would you need as donations from maybe like windgate or another >> right well some that's why I I I talk
like if like if she said something like oh we will we'll grant you $1,000 which is not unusual for we've had some companies give us a thousand or $1500 And um I think one of our companies gave us $2,000. So uh if they wish to give a
large donation that would be extremely helpful to us obviously. >> Those other donations weren't for advertisements though, right? >> Well, they're they're not they're they do get advertisements u depending upon
the size of the donation. Um if if there's we received many donations that were very modest and of course we have a list of of donors and uh the ones that are larger we we have like different size things you know I think one one
Sullivan tire or something probably a whole page practically I mean they give us a lot of money so we we've been very lucky and uh but >> can you put something on Facebook you know soliciting sponsors for the book >> you know that that
>> you're you're absolutely right. Maybe we could have um we we've we've done all kinds of things. Um we've had Jim Farrell working for us who's a PR guy, you know, and um um but now we're at the end. We're
for instance, I'm talking to this wonderful woman here and um we're at the end uh because uh we have to get this thing lined up and ready for the printer. you know, it's just so much time uh that we have, you know, but we'll be okay.
>> So, you know, if you could just get your wish, >> how much money would would you be looking for? >> Yeah. >> Don't hold back. How much? >> All right. Well, I I would say certainly a couple of thousand dollars would would uh would uh make the difference for um
taking care of like our our uh our editors, our you know, photographer and our art director who's putting it together. It's expensive having a person do the art directing, you know, as you can
imagine. I mean, there's all kinds of things that have to be done and it's very labor intensive. Not right now. We're at the end of the book where she's on a lot of work. >> Yeah, that's that's what I imagine it would be. >> As far as the printing goes, that's a
totally different issue altogether. And we we've made provisions for that. >> So, where's the money go people buying the book? When people buy it, where's that money go? >> All right. Um well the way it looks now is the people
who are buying the book will um will um pay for will pay back uh the money that we we will be able to uh obtain uh to print the book. >> Okay. So you're kind of like borrowing the money to print the book and then you pay more.
>> So have you set a price for the book yet? >> Yes. >> Okay. >> 50 it'll be $55. >> That's all for a 400page book. That's all. >> Yeah, it's a it's uh Yes, but we don't want it to be so expensive that you you know, it's kind of a a little bit of a
gain. >> Um you know, we've had to make a lot of hard decisions, too, >> but it'll it'll be $55. >> How about more promotion of for advanced sales? >> We've done that. We're going to have we're going to have promotion for
advanced sales and um they we have some you know, again, I'm not a technical guy, I should know. And uh well we have some kind of a website that people they have like a little square thing that you put your camera on and and um you can buy it right online.
>> Okay. >> So that's not activated yet but we have it already all set up and when Ken comes back but bless him in a couple of weeks that'll be going back. >> Is that can that be? >> He went back to Paris >> website too or not. >> The town wants to be separated. Oh, now
the question is regarding what will happen to the funds if we have like an excess of money left over what will happen to that to that money and and that has we haven't even thought of yet what will happen to that money um maybe
I thought in my mind maybe we could have scholarships or something like that or for students going off to study history and college maybe okay um or or studying anything or going into the trade or whatever, you know. Um that's that would
be one possibility. And uh um who knows? Maybe I I don't know, but I'm sure it'll be something worthy. Um we we we're not going to pocket it, you know, or anything like that. I mean, we're not, first of all, we're a nonprofit organization, and any kind of money we
have has to be uh um on the treasurer, so every single scent is accounted for. And um so we'll have to uh make a judgment and um as to how we deal with that. Um the the copyright when
everything's all said and done, the copyright will go to the town. So the town in the future can have more copies printed if they wish, you know, um or use it in any way that they like. So
that's so it's going to be will dissolve the corporation and it'll become uh possession of the town. >> Do you have a sense of how many copies you need to save to to sell to cover the printing cost?
>> Um I honestly I am not I'm not certain, but we um see we're going to have to sell just about all of them. I'm I'm certain of it. um at 55 and 1,000 at 55,000
um I think it's the book is going to be um it's going to cost just about that. >> Yeah, you're printing your thousand >> the printing. Yeah, >> the print a thousand. So, >> all right, Tom. Thanks. Yep. Um anniversary committee.
>> All right. So, we have a preliminary list out of events with dates. >> Oh, great. This is wonderful. Um so be finalized in this company we have that out next week. Um so again we do have um
the first actual event we have listed is going to be the gala um and it's going to be on uh January 31st trading post um so keep an eye on that. Ticket sales are going uh be starting shortly. The uh we did uh talk with Ken and we're going to
be doing some sort of a joint takeoff party together. um either um possibly at the brewery down the center or maybe at the bail house. Um that's possibly in November. So that will be coming up. Um so like a kind of a soft kick up kickoff
for both both groups. Um then we'll be doing an art festival in May. Um I believe we do have a date for that now, but um it wasn't on this preliminary one. um the 627. So June 27th, uh we were kind of going back with the back
and forth with Jan and the archivist on when was the date of incorporation. We we had had June 16th, but then something was listed as the 27th and then there was something as the 29th. Um so we put down the 27th, which is a Sunday. We're going to do a get a proclamation from
the governor and possibly um dedicate a um Revolutionary War soldiers memorial as well. Um but I got to talk with the committee. Uh we did find out for sure that it was definitely the 16th um which we were planning to do it on the
anniversary, but I'm talking next week. Um I'm going to bring up possibly keeping it on the 27th just because it's a Sunday when we get more people and it the 29th was actually our first town meeting. So, we're not quite in the middle, but it's kind of an event. So, we might stay with that date. Uh parade
scheduled for the 25th of July. Um we're going to start getting information about that out. We want to get um different civic groups and if neighborhoods want to do votes, um we'd like to get them involved. Um we'll be doing an old home day in September, um the 19th with a
rain date possibly the 26th. Um that's going to include all different events. Um some possibly some vendors and we're looking to do either a drone show or fireworks at night. >> Wow. Um and then of course we we will have the historic uh walking door um on
uh the 4th of October and um that that will uh end with Tom's uh burial ground door. >> Yeah. >> So these are our main events u but it's not limited to this. We still may have a couple other things. I think I mentioned uh earlier in our meeting that it was uh
October 5th, so I made an error. It's October 4th. >> It's the fourth. Yeah. Right. So that's on the record. It used they were supposed to be the end of October. >> Yeah. They uh >> so they changed it. >> The the when the house tour got going, they found that that would be a better
date. >> Yeah. >> Another thing just you know, we had we have a walking tour right now. We have a brochure. Yeah. >> Right now. um the old one and we used to put those every once in a while we put
out the numbers front of the houses >> and people could walk that door. We could do that one Sunday easy. Just use up the old stuff. >> Yes. >> And um you know could fill in another date here where people could come and just walk around those areas, look at
the houses, you know, not this tour. This this one is actually they actually have five houses that you're gonna be gonna be pay you you will pay for a ticket and you'll actually have entry into the houses. >> But this one is the one where you walk around the neighborhood. Just look from the outside.
>> So we could add that official date, you know, or >> so that people would know. >> Yep. >> All right. I'll see how many brochures we got. Okay. Still, >> do you know where the art festival is going to be? the art festival. Um what they're trying right now is going to be at the bail house and then at the floats
um together. Um but what um Reverend Emily is trying to do is get all of the churches on Main Street to participate that day. So you can go from church to church to church that festival and then like maybe end at Hope Floats have little celebration. Yeah. Oh, you have to be careful.
>> I think at the 200th anniversary of the town in 1926, they did open up all the churches and people could go and visit the churches >> and have like artifacts and things of that artwork, whatever with all kinds of stuff. That's great. I hope on July 4th
somebody will read the Declaration of Independence. >> Um, that has been brought up. So, it's a possibility. >> That would be wonderful. But e even if that's impossible, maybe it could be read during the >> But if not, we can do it. It's it's a week before, >> right? Exactly. >> Do it at the proclamation. Yes.
>> Yeah. That that would be wonderful because it was read right here in Kingston. You can imagine all the farmers coming to the meeting house and hear it. >> Can you imagine? God. >> No, that's pretty cool. >> Pretty cool. So Tom, some of those the readings, you know, if we're doing
readings or something like that, we can if it's use the be not be house, but the Adam Center, too. >> Sure. >> To get that building in. >> Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Um, I think I'm going to be giving my
little thing on the independence of the Adams Center. I don't know. Yeah. What about that old the Indian Native American display that was going around three or four years ago? Um it was at the Adam Center. It was a big
they were supposed to be circulating it throughout the state um on the tribes here. I think the tribes put it together. Okay. And it was supposed to be like the first one. They're supposed to be more. >> I haven't I've not heard of anymore. >> And I wonder what happened to that. that
could be something that could be over there, too. >> We tried to get a representative from um the Wanolan tribe, but they didn't have anyone available to be on the committee. >> Um but I I do believe I'd have to check the list, but I do believe Nick has one
of the topics he wants to do next month is the native history of the town. I mean, of next year. So, we may have that as a topic at the library and maybe even a lecture that he does. I would have great if they could do some sort of a
gathering or ceremony >> detailed again and I I know they didn't have someone that could commit time in the committee but they may be able to get some ceremonial group to come to that >> and then are you guys thinking about um reenactors for the uh proclamation like
colonial dress >> we would we're in the process of trying to find the brave so that could be a possibility as well for the u >> yeah have the British and the >> yeah especially If we're able to dedicate the memorial that day, if we can get some reenactors and maybe even
do a like a a gun salute or something. Yeah, that would be a possibility. >> Yeah. I mean, they could camp out like there was those guys that came to Plymouth for one of the parades. They actually set up a camp and camped out. People could go and talk to them tonight, whatever. >> That would be great. They could do that.
Someone had suggested the um New England Patriots school that does the the field goal they score, but I think they charge a lot of money, but not 100% shooting on >> Well, you never know. They may do it for free. >> Well, that's a lot of work. Thanks.
Thank you. >> It really is great. I'm glad I'm that right up on the calendar. >> Um preservation goals. This was what we put up last week. You guys will post these. see if there's anything we need to change on the presto historic
preservation goal for the CPC. This was this is what's in the CPC. Now I um have a couple small changes for types typo basically uh in the under the resources part just rewarding but basically the
goals are the same. Goal six was to work with the town to prepare for the 2026 celebration. You know, I don't know if we should leave it in there for future CPC stuff or just take it out this year. You know, that's the CPC committee. You
can bring that up, right? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> How long I mean is this how long does this stand for in what in some publications? >> This is in your the community preservation uh >> in the guidelines for this year. Okay.
>> Well, it's in the book the towns. That's what they were asking about. um the preservation plan thing here. >> Yeah. >> And so they they review it every once in a while. And so our part basically is this.
>> Yeah. >> And I've got a couple change small changes to make, but I'll send them to you if you want. >> You can. Anybody else think of anything else on here? >> No, I think we years ago. Okay.
>> Leave it then basically as it is. All right, under the demo permit for 117 Walking Road. Um, I did talk to the uh building inspector about it and it was the two buildings that we
thought basically pictures. think hotel. It was a little shop and the house is kind of hidden by trees there. >> Yeah. >> And it's not the school the building.
Apparently the school building is still behind. >> It's way in the back. Yeah. >> Yeah. Up inside. >> And uh Paul was saying it's not really part of his property anyways or something. I think it wasn't part of the plan. >> Okay. Yeah. >> And apparently this is going to be a 40B
project. that's going in this area. So, there's a lot of uh you know, there'd be a lot that's the same thing. >> Same thing, right? >> Yeah. You know, if if we wanted to preserve anything, probably be a lot of push back
or problems with that. But if you had a chance to look at the places over there, certainly the office building is nothing special. The house you can't really see much of, but they say there was a buyer inside. >> There was a small one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
So, um, we have to decide tonight what we're going to do with that, whether we're going to let it go through or not. And normally we does anybody have anything to say about general first before we get down the criteria list? >> No.
>> Okay. So then for pres preserving it, we have to determine if it's historically significant building or structure. And um we're going down the list here whether it's associated with a historic person
or a historic event and we don't have any information on that do we? >> No. So for either building um associated with the architectural history of cultural history of the political history of the economic
history of or the social history of the town, state or country, right? Um is it historically or architecturally important by reason of period, style, method of construction? was involved today.
>> Tough to tell on the house, but probably not that way. Um, is it associated with a particular architect or builder? You really don't know. So, in all cases, that's a no down the list. So, um,
it would seem like we should recommend this is not historically significant. Any discussion? So then we need an a motion to state that u the building does not meet the criteria of it historically significant
building or structure according to the bylaws. >> I'll make a motion that property in question is not of historic >> right according to our bylaws. >> Second >> second. Okay. All in favor? All right.
Okay. So, it's unanimous. I'll write a letter to the to them and the uh building inspector. >> Give me that language. Does not meet criteria of historically significant >> building or structure as per the statute.
And then um that was the end of my stuff. Who? >> I have stuff. >> Oh, I've got a steak to cook. I've got good stuff. >> Well, let's first go around. >> Anybody else? >> Listen, one of the things that we're
supposed to do as a uh Kingston Historical Commission is foster, you know, education in the community. And I'm really glad this is the 300th. >> Uh you guys are right on there with having the house tours and and all the
all the events that are going on here. Without doubt there will be a great deal of uh education from what what you folks are doing. Um we have this this young lady coming in talking about uh going um you know to you know to uh the the home
to uh lecture the the residents there education can occur even the elderly people and I'm glad to uh be part of that and uh and of course book that we're working on is an educational thing
and that's important too and lastly I'm going to do that school program I did last year on at Halloween about old gravestones and at rising tide school in my daughter's classroom. So we are we're doing that and uh the education has
become very important for us in in the community. So very pleased >> to see that going on. Well, thanks for doing all that. >> Yeah, great. Thanks everybody for doing it. You know, we're all doing it. >> That's it. >> That's it. >> Oh my god. Okay. So, we have next
meeting scheduled for the second Wednesday, which is what date? >> The >> November. Jeez. >> November 12th. >> Which one? >> November 12th. >> November 12th. >> 12.
>> Yeah. 20 25. We got to run out of 25. >> I know it. Okay. So, we'll adjourn until then. We'll need a motion to adjurnn. >> Motion to adjurnn. Second. All in favor? All right. Thank you for coming out Right.