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MEETING SECTIONS:

Part 1 (Video ID: Qox3rqPxViA):
- 00:00:08: Meeting Called to Order; Last Before Town Meeting
- 00:02:02: HR Update: Hiring, Open Enrollment, Negotiations, COLA
- 00:09:37: Bylaw Amendments; Reviewing Draft of Section Two
- 00:16:24: Section Five: Recruitment, Selection, Appointment Positions
- 00:18:31: Section Eleven: Employee Sick Leave Donation Process
- 00:26:43: Annual Town Meeting Handout Review and Discussion
- 00:35:23: Minutes Review; Upcoming Meeting Discussion; Adjournment


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Okay. So again that it's 6 o'clock. I will call the wage personnel meeting to order on Monday, April 13th. Um we're in room 101. Uh Lorraine is present. I'm present. Tina uh the um um director of

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uh human resources is also uh present. Derek is not uh available this evening. Uh just a couple of quick announcements. The meeting is recorded by Zoom. Anyone intending to make an audio video recording of this meeting should notify the chair at this time. No notifications. Items may be taken out of

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order at the discretion of the chair. Uh goal tonight, not on the agenda, but I'm going to express it as I would like this to be our last meeting before town meeting. I read all your information, >> everything >> and honestly I believe that it I if we

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don't have something finished tonight, it's not getting finished. >> It will just get postponed till after the beginning of the the July one. >> All right. I'm not going to try to for So if some if you're not ready on something that we've talked about in the I'm okay with it. We've done everything

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we could do >> and um so it'll just have to it wasn't settled before this. It won't be settled before it's not the end of the world. >> Yeah. >> All right. >> Town meeting is only in a couple of weeks, >> right? And that's why and I don't want that to have to give you another rewrite

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to have >> I was just worried about working on safety. >> Well, and again, we'll get to that during this and if it's done, it's done. And if it's not, it's not. That's the way it's going to be. >> Okay. At least that's why I'd like to and with the with the con uh with the group agreeing I hope you'll agree with

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me on that that that would be okay. >> I have no problem with that because I I agreed with you. Everything that I have been looking at Jennifer has supplied is perfect. >> Yeah. And we've done a lot of it. There's been a lot of changes in that bylaw. Yeah.

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>> Uh and a lot of cleaning up and um you know Rome wasn't built in a day. >> So um okay, first we'll take Tina. update. >> So, um, two assistant hybrid masters were hired. Um, they started today, I think. >> Great.

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>> Yeah. So, um, and the library, um, still has their posting out for their adult uh, reference librarian, um, the sealer of measures. Um, the post has been taken down. We have an

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applicant that um we're working on to have ready for the transition for when Ed uh finishes at the end of the year, end of the fiscal year >> and they're okay with a new >> Yep. >> Good. >> Yep. Um and

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you know, lots of fun stuff going on in HR, but some of the stuff that's seasonal is open enrollment starts on Wednesday. So, just working on all those documents. I had sent the new rates out to school and town employees. Um,

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all the contracts including school are still being negotiated. So, at least as of right now, there's no changes for fiscal year 27 related to health and medical insurance. Um, it's hard to do because we have to get the open enrollment done. So, if there's any

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changes, it won't happen until fiscal year 28. Um, and on that flavor of negotiations, those are all still going on with all the unions. Um, and there are some changes that if they're

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agreed to would affect the bylaw, but they likely won't be agreed to before town meeting. And so we just have to take care of it the whole time. >> Okay. >> Um, and nothing um nothing confirmed for cola. >> Okay. So, um, hindsight 2020,

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>> does it make sense to do all these union negotiations at the same time where before we used to spread them out? >> Um, I don't remember them ever being spread out, but I remember one, then another, then another. Not >> all three coming to terms at the same time. >> So, we actually have um four

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>> three, four, five, six in the town. >> So, the 10 years I've been here, they've all been on the same thing. Um, and then the the school has two unions. those actually combined. Not the contracts didn't combine, but the time period combined. So those two are on the same

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um um schedule. Um so if you know what, I'll tell you what, it's not necessarily >> we reached out in November to start meeting with unions. And I will leave it at that. I just remember I just remember when I came on the board here,

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>> Keith made it a point to talk about them all lining up >> because they didn't. >> That's what he told us. >> Okay. >> So, um so I I take little step back on that statement because that is not how I it was presented to me at this.

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>> Yeah. Well, I know one of his goals was to get like same language as much as he could across the board. Um, but I tell everyone the story. So, I started on January 11th, 2017. Um, it was a Wednesday. I was 29 hours a

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week. And on Thursday, no, not Thursday, on Friday when I came in. Um, all the unions put in front of me like, "We're ready to negotiate." Like, "Oh, >> go in." >> All right. Well, again, I, you know,

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just a point to talk. I mean, I um you guys have to do it. Yeah. And as I said, >> we typically would have the cola in our Yep. >> uh uh warrant. Yep. In the town meeting and um I'm fine not having it and leave

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it up to the town administrator to present it. >> Yeah. >> So, that's what I was going to In other words, we'll present our >> our warrant article as as we we have it written currently. Y >> and if there's no cola, there's no cola. There's nothing I can do about it. >> Yeah. I mean, there's >> let them do I mean again you guys have

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always kind of followed suit with KU and we're just not there. So I don't think even the TA presenting something for town meeting. >> We kind of arbitrarily pick a number >> and hope for the best. >> Well I mean you have you have based off of um

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>> the KTU there's always been you know a a rhythm to it but to sit there and say okay let's let's pick two and a half next year. We can't do that because we have no authority to tell anybody else. Okay. That's okay. >> But the um Well, the interesting thing

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though will be that um will they have it done by town meeting? >> Probably not. That's my point. I don't think any of these contracts will be done by town meeting. >> Will they have it done by fiscal year, July 1? >> I don't know. >> Well, they'd have to do retroactive if that was happen. >> Right.

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>> Well, that's an idea. >> I know. I know. I know. >> That's That's something that >> at all costs. >> You never know. You never know what will >> Yeah. I mean, um, you know, there's certain things in the contract that we have to do, even if there's not a new contract in place, accepts and what have you. Yeah.

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>> Um, at the cola or if there's, you know, change in statement amount, things like that. Like that's little things. Not tiny, but you know, >> small things. >> Okay. Well, >> I don't know. >> Not on our agenda. >> I don't I don't recall if we've ever had

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to go to town meeting without >> No, I that's what I'm saying. I you've gone to more of them than me. >> I've been to a few, but I don't ever remember not having >> Yeah, I'm trying to remember one during >> there was one Well, so there was one

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that happened with wage and personnel. I don't think it was cola related. It was something as related to the um compensation study that was happening just for wage and personnel. Um, and then there was something tied to COVID

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because I think for that year steps were held and there was no cola and then come fall time wage freeze. >> Yeah, there was a >> Well, I guess that would be the I guess that would be the no steps thing. Yeah, I because I just I well I'm specifically

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I'm talking about the cola because with things >> but the point that I'm making is not that there wasn't a decision made >> like there is now right now there's no decision made >> that's what I'm pointing out to go to

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town meeting without having these ironed out >> is a first >> from the standpoint of what the final product's going to be at least if they said during COVID that we were going to freeze there was a decision ision. >> That's my point. >> So, um, and that's the part where I'm

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saying that's >> again nothing I can do about it. >> You know, uh, we we have done everything we can do as a board, right, >> at this stage of the game. Um, and I would not advocate that we just I'm Charlie. >> Yeah. It's not a fan of mine. >> N

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because my number would be different. I'm sure, you know, again, and and they I I uh having spent three years on the finance committee, I pity those guys. >> I don't know what the finals yet.

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>> Okay. >> All right. Anything else, Dan? >> Nope. >> Okay. All right. Well, thank you. >> All right. Let's uh finish up uh our discussion items. Um the bylaw amendments with FY2027. uh re review draft of section two

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definition of exempt and non-exempt. Now I read that um and I do Jennifer I have to say I really appreciate all the work you did on this just for this meeting because a lot of it was right there and ready to go >> and we thank you for that.

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>> All right. So did you agree to that change I made on my own? >> Uh that's I just was pulling it up. Hold up. >> Say okay let's be explicit. Oh, sorry. >> I loaded everything in here and read it on my other computer.

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>> Okay. So, >> this is um section two definition. >> Fair labor standard acts is actually a federal thing. So, maybe not US but federal. Um, >> yes, it's fair labor standards active.

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>> I mean, I think it can also just be fair labor standards acts. >> Oh, if it's consist if you need it to be consistent, then I think whatever it needs to be. >> Yeah, I think >> I searched other places and and it had

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the US in front. It says the Fair Labor Standards Act. >> Better saying federal. >> I'm saying >> Fair Labor Standards Act. >> I Well, it's a federal It's not a state thing. It's a federal thing. But when you say

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Fair Labor Standards Act, it's that's the at the federal level. >> Yeah. Um, >> they can refer to it as the US Fair Labor Standards Act because it's the Fair Labor Standards Act under the uh, excuse me,

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>> I just happened to notice it >> the Department of Labor >> and then I think I noticed it in overtime. >> Oh, >> yes. I noticed the US in overtime and then I was like, hm, I wonder >> USP labor. >> I did find it other places, but I don't remember.

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>> It's a non-exempt. It's an exempt in directions only. I did not pick that up, but you're right. But I think the assumption is fair labor standards act as uh listed. It's under the US Department of Labor. So that makes it

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the US FSA. So if you want to do UN if you want to do a universal, then do it US Fair Labor Standards Act. But I think most people understand FLSA is federal. But it wouldn't hurt to put it in anyway if you if you already have them. >> Well, I just like to be consistent.

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you could change where >> I don't know if it's in any I don't know what sections. >> So I suggest because hopefully going to be the last meeting. >> Yep. >> That >> um anything that has a new definition

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put in the way it was written for the new definitions >> and then if we need if you all need to clean up more meeting you could >> fine to comment at that point. >> Yeah. Because anyone that >> Yeah. Everywhere I'm looking, it's just called the Fair Labor Standards Act. >> Yeah. >> Okay. So, you just

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>> Unless it's in directions are in uh definitions and then it's US. >> Yeah. Fair places are in the definition. >> Yeah. And that's okay. I think it's fine. But if it at this point in time trying to clean up, it's a

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little late in the date and we could always take a look at it again for the fall. >> I'll just do whatever you want me to do. You just tell me what to do. Um, so we're just questioning on the uh >> that personally I would just call it the

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Fair Labor Standards Act because that's everywhere I'm seeing it. That's what it's showing us. >> It just says uh Fair Labor Standards Act of 1931. A United States Whoops. the United States label law um that creates a right blah blah blah

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blah blah. So you can probably use either or to change this. >> I wish I could remember where else it was but I don't remember now. this language that you have in here, the position has passed US Fair Labor Standard Act, then you're denoting FL

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LSA that thing and determined to be a paid be paid at a salary annual rate, not by the hour exempt positions qualified for over time. >> Yeah, that's fine. >> Yeah, >> I think it's pretty clear. >> Okay. Yeah, it's very clear. >> It's very clear. No bad. >> So, to be honest with you, if the

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argument is whether we're having the word US and not in there, >> I think it's Uh, >> I think it's immaterial. Who cares? Yeah, we're we're stating FLSA, which is what it's commonly known as, and I think everybody understands what it is, >> right? >> Okay. So, I have US in there. Do you

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want me to take it out? >> No. >> What's the original wording? Just Fair Labor Standards Act or US Fair Labor Standards Act. >> In the bylaw, it's always been referred to as US Fair Labor Fair Labor Standards Act. >> So, that's why it's that that here.

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>> That's why I added in the US. So, you're being consistent with the past bylaw. So, I I would uh Lorraine take a motion to accept um the draft of section two as written.

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>> Okay. I move to accept the draft uh of section uh two of the wage and personnel bylaw. Um specifically, an exempt definition and non-exempt definition >> and overtime Mhm.

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>> And >> and over time, >> what did I do? >> Overtime right now. Oh, for heaven's sake. Or overtime. >> Okay. >> Okay, I'll second it. Uh, any more discussion? >> Seeing none, Lorraine.

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>> Yes, >> Jim. Yes. >> US. >> Section two is done. >> Yes. >> And that was good. And thank you, ma'am. Well, you know, I like to be consistent. >> I understand. I feel the same way.

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>> Yeah, it it's it's that I know. So, sometimes it'd be better if I didn't know the sentence. >> Yeah. Sometimes I don't read it. I wish I didn't read it either. >> Like the sick leave versus sick uh donation. >> Sick time versus leave. Yeah. Another

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thing I noticed >> that I started laughing at. Those are things that you you think about and you look for. >> It's your job. That's part of your job is to be consistent. >> Okay. So, there's another email. Uh the next item is section five,

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>> correct? >> Recruitment, selection, appointment, positions that need to be sworn in uh and uh department head reviews is all in this section. >> Again, um I read it. I didn't have any issues with it. It looks like we picked

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up the language from the uh town uh council uh as it relates to background checks for department managers. >> Um and again, I don't have any problem with that. Um >> no, and we did refer to it to all as background investigations, not checks.

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Right. >> Okay. And that's done. >> Okay. So, uh, and then also as it relates to what positions need to be sworn in, again, I don't have any issues with those. >> Um, looks like we've captured them all

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>> except for the animal inspector. What was what did that >> That's right. Tina was going to get back to us on that one. The livestock inspector, she did. >> We need to vote it. >> I thought we needed to vote it. >> You You still need to vote it. Put it in. >> Okay. So was that so I I added an animal

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inspector. >> These include animal inspector, assistant treasurer, building commissioner, zoning enforcement officer, finance director, town accountant, principal assessor, sealer of weights administrator, superintendent of streets, town accountant, town treasurer, collector, plus any other position deemed by the town administration being part of this bylaw.

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>> And so then I had to put it in the chapter as well. >> Yeah. Chapter 40, 41, and 129. >> Right. Right. >> That was the only change I made on my own. >> No, then I'm fine with those. All right. So, um, what I would propose we do, Lorraine, is take each one of these, uh,

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because it' be just a little easier. Um, and then what we, if we don't have something finished, it just stands as not being finished. So, uh, I would take a motion to accept the review of the draft of section five, recruitment, selection, appointment of positions that need to be sworn in, and department head

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reviews. >> Yes. As written. So, so moved. those two. >> So move. Okay, I'll second it. Uh Lorraine, >> yes. >> Jim, yes. Okay, background.

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>> Okay. Donation process. >> Let's talk about that one. >> That's the section 12 email. >> No, 11. Sorry. Tina sent them. >> Oh, Tina sent it. Hold on. I get that one. >> But then I sent an email on top of it

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because I noticed the sick time versus the sick leave. >> Here we go with female lead credit. That exceptional login. Do >> you have a hard copy of this? Thank you. I think sent it on March 17th.

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>> I have all my stuff at home. >> Oh, yes. Yes, she sent it on. Mark said she printed the attachment but not Line my print has been crazy lately. It's only printing in landscape. Like I have to go and change it.

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>> You know, some of your stuff comes landscape. It's like what is happening? >> That happens to me when I print Kingston. If I something landscape >> the next email landscape. I have to change it. It's so notice it right away.

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>> Okay. So, where am I? What am I What am I looking at? >> Sonations. >> C. Yeah, I'm looking at C. I have the red line. Okay. >> No, I don't have the red line. >> You're looking at the agenda. Okay.

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>> What? No, this is the thing. See, the man employee. Okay. Oh. Oh, why don't I have the same for you? >> You found it. >> I found it. I It just moved it, >> but I moved it over to here. >> All right. So, I should be able to find it.

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>> What letter is it? >> Uh, C 11. I didn't print out the last >> section 11 C. I don't I didn't have that printed out, but I'm reading it. Okay. >> Yeah, it's probably reading this. >> I don't like I told you, I don't put the email in here, but I have it on my

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phone. >> So, all I had to do is just move it over. >> Are you sure? >> Yeah. >> All right. because I I I was working on all the individual ones and I'm trying to put them all together. >> I have a stack of stuff there.

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>> I bet. >> All right. Thank you, darling. Thank you, sir. Thank you, ma'am. >> Yeah, I think it's a nice thing to do. I think it's a good thing to do. Okay, good. Yeah, thank you very much. All right. So, do you want um

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>> reading it? >> Okay. I think it's a good benefit. I really truly do. >> So, the employee that's donating the sick time is just giving up the >> sick time. explain something.

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>> I think it's I think somewhere in there it talks about it's at the discretion of the town administrator if there's leftover donated sick time >> was approved employable by employees except in the case of more time was donated than needed. Oh okay.

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So if they give uh five days for example and they only need three then they'll send the two back to the initial donator. >> I think it's up to the town administrator. So the employee who needs it is the person that starts the process, right? Request it.

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>> And if somebody says no, it's just no. >> If someone doesn't want to start it, >> right? No. Someone doesn't want to donate. >> So So I just I send it out um I send it out by email and if people don't want to do it, they don't do it. >> Gotcha. Okay.

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>> Yeah. Employees. Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. So, uh, I'll move. >> Wait, wait. >> No. >> Did you want to leave it as sick time or do you want or did you want to leave it as sick leave?

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>> We've all It's been referred to as sick leave, >> right? That's why I'm just asking. >> Yeah. No, I agree. >> I agree. No, sick. >> Partying motion. >> Okay. >> So, any All right. So, any place you have my copy? So, any place where it

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says sick time, I can change the sick lead. >> Yeah. Prior to the employee using any donated sick leave, the employee will need to exhaust all their own vacation time. See if he's starting vacation leave in the firewall.

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>> But but their own sick come vacation in personal time, >> which where are you? >> Right here. >> So that's what Tina did, right? >> Yeah. Mhm. >> So all I'm saying is if you want them all to say time or you want them all to

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say leave or the first sentence says sick leave to know sick time and you have >> vacation time is vacation leave and personal time is personal leave in the bylaw. >> Okay. It's all listed as time here

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>> in Tina is draft >> correct. >> Okay. So >> I'm I'm a crude sick time. >> Just super. >> Okay. No, it's fine. >> Yeah, I'm fine with it. I I'm I'm fine with changing it all to believe as long

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as the right >> if I find any place that I get confused about whether I should change it. I can let you guys know. >> Yeah. All right. >> I I just think if you keep it all as a leave, it makes a reads a lot cleaner. >> Okay. because the bylaw refers to

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vacation leave, personal leave, sick leave. >> Okay. Yeah. >> So, I was just motion. >> Okay. So, I'm going to uh I move to approve section 11 sick leave in its entirety as drafted, including any

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appearance of sick time being changed to sick leave in section 11. >> C. C. >> Yes. Okay. >> Okay. >> So, what the Y can also change vacation

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time to vacation leave and personal. >> Oh, I would say a different motion because I I specifically talked about >> but it's in Tina section. It's in that C. >> Yeah, she was she's referring to it at sick time and I'm saying sick leave. No,

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but but also sick vacation and personal time >> has to be >> sick vacation and personal leave. Employees can use donated leave for a couple of complete days out of the >> Oh, here we go. There's that word. Yep. >> All right. >> Okay.

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>> So, it's it's in a few places. So, I would ask you to amend the motion. >> Amend the motion >> to replace anywhere in section 11 C that rel that talks about time >> and to be consistent with the rest of the bylaw and use the word leave.

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>> Correct. As amended. >> Mhm. Yeah, because we're we're talking to sick time here and we want sick leave. Okay. >> So, I would I would uh second your motion and the amended motion. >> All right. >> All right. And then I would call the role arrange.

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>> Yes, >> Jim. Yes. >> Okay. >> Very good. >> Thank you. >> Is vacation leave? Yeah, it's makes perfect sense. >> Okay. So, the next item is uh the cost of living adjustment. We're not going to

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do any action. >> Correct. >> Okay. Um then the next item is red review of the draft annual town meeting. >> Oh no. We have uh other uh section 12 other leave employment. Uh we've approved that. Correct.

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>> Yeah. >> From 1200 to 1250. >> You voted that >> that was already voted correct. The minutes are coming up and there's a whole bunch of Oh yeah. Yeah. >> Okay. So, >> I didn't include it because I made the chain and voted it. I made the change

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and then you looked at it up the last. >> Yeah, because we had a couple of opportunities to look at it after. So, we're good. We are good. All right. >> Figured we didn't need to put that on the agenda again. >> All right. Thank you. >> We're looking at the handout. >> Um,

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>> so I'll have to I'll have to uh fix sick leave. Yeah, sick leave and vacation time. It will be vacation leave. >> You'll change purpose to provide a sick leave donation policy. >> Yeah,

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>> indeed. >> Yeah, >> change. >> I wouldn't worry about the US Fair Labor Standard Act. >> I don't think so. >> If we have nothing else to do next year, we >> correct the error the number of hours in the first line of paragraph from,200 to

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1250. >> That's it. list to schedule every position to move non-exemp greater positions to schedule E to delete the position administrative assistant veterans assistant to the fire chief assistant to the town

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payroll coordinator program coordinator COA and public works director and to provide the position of superintendent of streets a site include what's negotiated in KCU contract for each professional license required for the position of by the practice.

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Perfect. >> All right. Lorraine was going to bring up my email that I sent about hyphenating something. >> Yes. Yes. Oh my gosh. Where is it? >> Yeah. >> But it's a we can you can discuss it in

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the in >> Yeah, it was um >> I sent you an email. >> Rolling 12 month period. >> Another thing I noticed. >> Yes. I I >> This is a Saturday, April 11th. Uh she's questioning if a hyphen is missing.

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>> Yeah. >> Uh rolling 12 month period should be changed to rolling 12 hyphen month period. >> And if you agree, I have no problem with that. >> And that's just an administrative. We don't >> Yeah. >> Okay.

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Y Okay. Done. >> Uh reduce the annual site sealage wasting measures from 9783 to 8,000. change the title of the schedule from salary schedule to exempt annual salary. >> That worked out well.

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>> And the table of contents updates table of contents with changes voted at town meeting. >> Yep. >> And section 16 reclass and rates of compensation schedule provide a new schedule for non-exempt graded positions. >> Okay.

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>> All right. Let me just look at this. So these are the So you have to change make a few changes in the um hand out text. >> Uh only only >> what we talked about >> right only to section um section. >> Yeah.

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>> Oh, I'll have to add sections to add in the So in the handout t in the handout attachment I have all of section 11. Yep. >> I'll take everything out except for C because you're only making changes to sink. So I can just get rid of that.

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>> If the amount of leave credit provided under subsection B has been about the May application. Yes. >> Ouch. >> I got attacked by a puppy. So, you're going to take C out.

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>> No, for section section 11 sick leave, I'll take out A, B, D. >> Right. Okay. Yep. Yep. Yep. Okay. >> I'll only put in C because that's your team's changes. Now, schedule A is um is it clean on

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your sheet or and it could be just my graphic here. >> I think it's I didn't see anything. >> Yeah. >> Okay. See See how it is here. Oh, >> that's why. >> So that's how it is here.

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>> Oh, no. >> So that's why I had to ask. Yeah. No, I want >> Yeah, this is how it looks. >> No, it's fine. That's fine. It's ask because I I saw it. I went I went That's not Jennifer.

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>> That's why some people like paper when I >> see is just as bad. >> Right. When I cut and paste from the bylaw, that's what comes up. Yeah. >> Yeah. A lot of the cut and past look really sketchy. >> Oh, can be. Yeah. Very careful.

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>> Okay. So, there's no um at this point, Tina, there's no hourly changes in um schedule E the non-exempt hourly employees >> of money. >> Yeah. No, >> that's true for um >> and the same with the

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>> for E and D. Yeah. >> Yeah. Okay. So, that's solid. Good. Have you um had an opportunity to talk to uh town administrator about the new change the uh new schedules the different schedules the salary versus

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>> I mean we've been talking about them since we've been talking about >> so then no surprise there. >> Yeah. >> Okay. Good. >> All right. >> And I would send him a copy just to double check. >> Okie dokie. >> So, you know, I'll be honest with you.

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Um, I'm going to hold this for just a second and just ask the group, is there anything else that we've talked about or considered that we need to uh address? And if not, then I'm going to ask for a

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motion to accept the U annual town meeting handout text and attachment uh as listed with the corrections that we've talked about for the sections prior. >> So that would cover

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>> right. So if there's nothing else for us to discuss relating to annual town meeting, >> then I would ask for a motion to accept the handout and the handout text attachment as written with the exception of the sections that we just had made

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slight changes to in our previous motions this evening. >> Okay. >> And that would be 11 C and 12 E, >> the ones that we've already approved. But yeah, >> so basically we could just tell them uh okay, everything went Well, what Jennifer will replace those

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and then we'll get a final. But what I'm saying is conceptually we're done. >> We're done. >> Okay. So, I'm going to ask again for the motion to accept the annual town meeting handout and attachment as written with the exceptions to the sections that we've discussed this evening. >> So, moved.

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>> Good. Uh, any more discussion? >> No. Everything is fine. >> I'll I'll second that. And Lorraine? >> Yes. >> Jim, yes. So, we have done. >> Okay. So when I send you the next version, can you would you please look at 11C?

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>> Yes. >> Okay. Look at Right. Redo 11 C because I'll add in Tina's changes. >> Get it in the format the bylaw. Now I do have one question which probably has nothing to do with the lot of anything

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but last meeting Derek had mentioned saying something to the uh finance committee about the uh reduction to 8,000 on the uh animal sealer sorry sealer uh he was going to say something. Do you know if he said anything yet? Okay. Irrelevant.

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>> Yeah he said the budget was coming up I think for both the next day. So he that's >> he said he was going to do that. Yeah, >> that would >> Well, his hopefully he did, you know, and that's a good thing. Could always make an adjustment on the floor anyway. >> Yeah, I would think he would. Yeah, I think the meeting was the next day.

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>> Yeah. Okay. Um Okay. >> Then the last thing is uh we have minutes from February the 2nd and March the 16th. >> Um I'll take the March the 16th minutes first. Um again, I didn't have any issue. There was one question, but I

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think Tina already answered it. H. We got the 6040 calls. Not yet. >> Guess what? It was I looked at it today and I made a mental note and I should have written it. Um, but it wasn't a big deal.

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>> May require. Yep. >> Which are you working on? >> The 16. And I do apologize to Derek because I keep calling his last name Blitzner and it's Bill Nitser and I really feel bad. Sorry, Derek. I don't know. I I didn't catch that and

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that's like all right. >> Uh I I would um >> You don't remember what you said? >> Yeah, I do. It was animal inspector compared to livestock inspector and you answered that email. Yep. No, that's what it was. I just saw it. So, >> and that was after after that was on the

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17th. >> Yep. So, that when I read it earlier today, I was wondering what was now I understand. >> With Tina's email, I'll put that into the mail for this meeting. >> Yep. >> The animal inspection. >> Okay. Um I would take a motion to accept

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the minutes of uh the um March the 16th as written. So moved. >> Uh Lorraine, >> yes. >> Jim, yes. Okay. >> February 2nd. >> That was an oldie, but I already had that. >> Was there anything in there?

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>> No, I had nothing. We had uh talked about uh nothing in any section of the bylaw shall be considered to conflict with any section of any chapter. and that when we were talking about additional leaves section. Well, >> that was the only thing and that was fine. We had already talked about that.

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>> So, I had absolutely no comments on the uh February 2. >> Well, then I would uh take a motion to accept the February 2nd, 2026 minutes for the wage personnel uh committee uh as written. >> So moved. Uh and uh I'll second it.

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>> Yes. Jim. >> All right. and the animal inspector is aka livestock. That was the uh gist of it. Okay. >> So, the last thing is um the meeting

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tenative meeting of April the 27th. I don't see the need for one uh unless you guys do. Um everything's been voted. um we're going to get a final on on the ATM handout and um amendment and all we have to do is just

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look at it. >> Um so at this point I would not schedule an April 27th meeting. >> Um if you something happens to the coalist between now and then and you think we should just to have it voted on and part that's I'll leave that to your

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>> Yeah. I mean if something were to happen I think what you said before about the TA being presented >> that's what I'm figuring. Yeah, >> because then he'll just present the whole thing, >> right? >> You know. So, all right. Well, I I really tried Tina and he gets out of >> I meant that. I meant that in a good

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way. I really wanted to get through this and be done. >> Okay. >> So, is there anything else for the good of the group? >> No, sir. All right. I'm gonna go. >> All right. Well, when is our next meeting then? >> Then the next meeting would be April uh May.

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>> What did I do with my book? >> May 18th. That's a third Monday. >> Do you know that in Bolin's head was chopped off on May 19th? >> No, I don't have >> I'm fine. I'm fine for May the 18th. >> Okay. Yep.

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>> And I and I think we'll uh town meeting is >> the second. >> It's Yeah, it's May 2nd. >> So, we'll see what happens at town meeting whether we even have a meeting on the 18th. >> Well, I could start working on the new bylaw. >> I can just write it down as tenative. Everybody needs to submit the changes to

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the town clerk's office. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And last year we did it kind of late. >> All right. Yeah, I have no problem. Tina was looking for the schedule, so I think I had to give her the schedule separately. >> No, that's fine. Let's uh let's uh >> Yeah, if you want to take some time off,

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like July would be a good month. >> Yeah. >> Not June. >> No. >> Yeah. >> You don't want to go? Yes, you could do June as long as you I can get the bylaw changes done for the May meeting. Then I

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can send them to the town clerk's office. Then they have plenty of time. >> Yeah, >> because remember they have to put they have to put the PDS together. I don't have >> 18. >> Yes. >> Of May. May

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yes. >> That's our schedule at this point. >> I'll send I'll send Derek an email. >> Okay. >> About meeting them. >> Yeah. at this point. No 27. >> All right. So, I can take the tenative. >> Well, maybe I will I won't cancel our

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reservation just yet. Just in case. Yeah. >> Yeah, that's fine. But, uh >> that way we have a place to meet. >> Okay. >> For April April if we have >> just in case we have a spot if we have to, right? Because then that gives us two more weeks to thing because you

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never know. You just never know. Okay. >> All right. So, the two of you I'll say I'll send you the the final of the handout and then you'll peruse sick leave section 11 C. Make sure it looks all right.

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>> Yes, ma'am. >> I'll just do incorporate teams changes. >> You'll you'll copy that. >> Yes. >> Yeah. Okay. Thank you. >> All right. Uh I'll take a motion to uh end the meeting. I move to end the meeting at

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>> 6:40. >> 6:41. >> Let's talk. Oh, it's um Oh, >> let's go by the computer. >> Okay. Uh I'll second it. Lorraine. Yes. Jim. Yes. Okay. Thank you guys.