okay it's 4:30 I'll open up the sewer commissioner meeting elay I no Watson I okay do we have anybody on doesn't look it doesn't no okay um let's start with update from the superintendent so since our last meeting um we had spent some time talking with Jay when go over a few details for at least a couple period so just to fill you on some things the annual report for the Department was passed
in um it's not printed yet but it was at least passed in obviously that won't probably come out for a few months uh the 2026 budget was approved by the finance committee good job um yeah other than our debt numbers um increasing this coming year the rest of the stuff was all kept to a minimum increase right in line where we should be I think um everything looks good on that end um jeie this week uh had some Unice
training and I kind of listened into some of it but uh she could fill in on any details you need if needed but um she learned a whole lot about the different reporting packages that you can pull up uh behind the scenes stuff that might help out and figure out a lot of missing pieces that weing for without a lot of hand entry um it's pretty extensive actually yep I was able to uh
manipulate rep ports and then filter them today to show uh anything that was on like our Wastewater budget um and then all of the utility billing uh Revenue um and sort them by code excellent so I have to just drill down a little more get it the way I want it to look and then we can tie back into the numbers and it does show um like on the betterments the different codes for
years I think I did it from like 23 to 25 so it shows the different codes what's coming in what account it goes to like deferred revenue was it principle was interest excellent so there was oh wow that's and when you say um the reports you can only view right you can't you have no access for entry you just view things I I view imprint and I you know download and manipulate them but it's on an Excel spreadsheet okay so my idea is
um to generate a report that has all of our sua user Fe like the 401 the 301 the 205 um download that manipulate it and then when we go into the collector reports to like the collector receivables by date we should be able to line up those two databases and merge them and then see what isn't if something isn't there oh excellent I was
just talking to Dave about that thinking what's the best way to attack it I mean because I know that um anytime a property changes hands with the water department they have to call close the account and then the name is changed and that Stacy and Lai do a great job of updating that information so very good sounds like we we we found the the missing pieces yes and we got some good
um worksheets and you know about different reports and how to do things so this was very valuable good on any missing accounts that were buried I haven't gone that I'm looking forward to the day was anybody uh able in town hall able to attend that meeting with you so me um from the assessor's office was on the call um Tara was out sick unfortunately but I did forward her all
of the handouts that Phil had sent me and um Kathleen the accountant okay good good yeah indeed inde yeah in and out but even Kathleen she was trying to do some things by hand looking at screens and adding things up and she was even discovered there's so many things that would save her time oh good by seeing that seminar so was awesome all the Departments working together I always
remember this is you know being a father being a boy you know somebody will say to me and my grandfather when and doubt read the directions it's like the same thing and doubt go back to the beginning and figure out what he's supposed to be doing it happens all the time I mean I'm as much a victim as anybody I mean my wife will say that and then there um there's also an option in munice that's rate Masters and that's
how me and Dave did some of our um rate Studies by doing uh it in munus and there's also consumption analysis reports so there's really a lot of functionality that we're not so aware of that would make things much easier and clearer for everybody to see the C oh good very good should almost be an onboarding that you just go through one of those boes or at least you know a
couple months in just because there's so much so much information yeah lot and really like f- T report and then back it out into an Excel sheet play around with it curious who's the only person or persons who can actually manipulate the data is that like Treasurer or so I have have access to like invoice entry um but anything if I need to move something from one account to another is paperwork
that needs to go through I don't make any adjustments the water department um Lori and Stacy of the only ones I'll send them like an abatement and they'll make all of the adjustments and reversals on their end so I just strictly do my own invoice entry budget entry I would imagine by department they turn on and turn off access I know higher level you can like you said be paperwork but I would think there some
higher level person who heavily bonded that you know you really can't make the final determination since that person whoever that is this you start talking about the whole Kingston or he or Pick Town it can get really car really fast y so it isn't on the agenda but we're talking about mun so I'm going to send you guys some information about a conference that they have um and they really have a lot of um sessions that
would be there about the Enterprise funds and just when's the conference May 10th the 14th you tell us that last week I sent you an email yeah okay we could put that on the next agenda and that'll give they have time to see about funds um so moving on uh next agenda the discharge permit I sent an email around it was originally supposed to expire in
August uh thank you to the healing Administration all permits have been extended by two years so we don't have to worry about a permit for two more years puts us 2027 excellent clear I just missed that I issued my permit to the Weston project they did and then they made that I think it happened in November maybe yeah I did this in a August oh pain and that wasn't I wasn't supposed to do the pr they brought me in this way I should have dragged your
feet a little longer um I think I might have sent this around but there's a conflict of interests that were all required to do online uh if you haven't gotten a chance to do it are you familiar with it Bill and gone to the all the seminars all these years that were B they doing it online now and they track it now online so there's con when it have to be done by I want to say the end of February
okay okay if you I don't know if I still have the email but do you have any contact information email I can text it to you text email there's two pieces of it just I was confused there's a if you have every two years you have to do the big test and every other year you just take the short one that you like a little short 10-minute thing which is what I did last time so but if you haven't done it in two years it's a longer it's like an hour or two just so you know if you're budgeting
your time then you going to sit there can go off and come back but right right but yeah if you stick with it it's probably about an hour okay yeah maybe a little more hour and 15 minutes so this one's just on conflict of interest yeah yeah it just goes through ethics ethics train and what we can cannot do meetings and information back and forth yeah making decisions out trying to get bids things like that done
that yeah so uh recently a couple issues with some pump stations we had I don't know what happened but someone at Marsh Road backed into a telephone line and severed it from the pole um down low so I imagine they just either a plow or some vehicle backed into it sever the line so right now they have a tempor Line running across the road uh but we were able to fish a wire through there today and hopefully they'll come in tomorrow and fix the
telephone line permanently for a temporary phone over there for now and then last Friday I touched base with a lane on this the uh Transformer down at new Summer Street blw in the pole and when Urus changed out the Transformer and re-energized our power a rodent must have gotten into our line and chewed all the insulation off the wire and once they re-energized it Flames started coming out of the electrical service so
um they dropped our line we running on generator power last Friday into Saturday Saturday morning we got the situation repaired we had uh Northstar Electric come in ran a new buyer from the service back up to the pole then Nar came in and ran it up to the Transformer this is right in center to that one right by um the big wi that one yeah okay we call it new summer but that's
some of the uh you know nesting from the from the whatever Road was in there probably Square there was some frozen ice in the conduit they couldn't even snake the line so we had to dig down around the conduit heat it with a torch and melt the ice to get it out of there some pictures from from the event is that kind up is that going up the P yeah so this here and once they cut the
wire and dropped it that's what I showed up and saw the wires just hanging off the pole you kind make this stuff up and there's the wire wow pretty fast is that Scar the hell out of you so all the that doesn't shut off all the excitement's over but uh again another uh incident that you know you're always one one minute away from something
catastrophic going on but you know everyone helped out and this is a well-maintained facility these are all the things but I mean just think about it you don't take your oh yeah right yeah well then your chances of something happening just increase you're never at a zero point that nothing's going to happen there's always something yeah uh so there's really no um every time I have one of these events going on I try and think of what we can do
to make the situation better next time so I got a call from the water department and there was a chain of command that went from the electric company to the water department then back to me because they thought it was a water department Cy so I'm looking at getting some decals put on all our stations that'll identify whose property it is who to call if there's anything unusual going on good idea so um at least that way if something were to happen whether there's an overflow or an
electrical issue at least we get immediate call from whoever's involved with it so can even be someone driving by and seeing something didn't see right right and now they know whose building it is pick up the phone and say you never know building the smoke coming out of the roof might be an issue we've had had issues like that before like on Boundary Street one of the residents down there knows who to reach um anytime there's a
problem but there's other pump stations and other people that come and go out of these houses some some of them have flashing lights on them for particular reason we don't have any oh sorry Jones River and Rocky no Pump Station too and what is that just if something goes down it's anter light that flashes yeah there's a beacon that goes on so sometimes we'll get to call from the police on that this way at least some W even walk on the dog might looking at that that really sleeve on a boat did they put a
boot on the top what happen again no unless unless the squirrel loves the moood but that's so yeah the decals I think will help out in a situation like that in a multitude of ways we're going to try and get something set up for all our stations on that and then just minor announcements February 25th the town hall warrant opens March 25th closes the
town that's about all I have oh and then we're all going for safety training tomorrow for comp bace oh okay that's put on by Mi our insurance company in town do they come here to do it uh we're actually going to the ducksbury police station so they're offering it to any one of their people so long as that goes it's from 9
to two yeah I'm guessing put you in a confined space it's probably I would think just going to be to in the classroom oh okay because you've already been all certified so it's a more refresher yeah okay yeah you know it's kind of nice every two years just SCH over it you know especially where we're going our collection syst number one thing is to do it again making sure you know everyone's on the same page particular
you've already been in conf you've been in a real confin based situation you don't to like do it again if you didn't they would say no no we're going to go to this manole set triod up and whole down and make you do it just like C SCBA you know put the thing on breathe with it run around breathe with it all that kind of stuff used to make me throw foot boxs really yeah so you could understand having a fit mask on when you're really working
high and U that's that's what that was you know so you really understood like find you know you don't go in there you Highway 50 it's going 120 you're running around it's 500 Degrees around you know you got to be like just like really happening wow yeah now test test M too they'll break open like a pepper bomb or something so you you're actually you don't have clean shaving face it doesn't
do anything Lear that in the place then it's a real problem good so yeah that's all I have okay I just have y go ahead Brian under continued turn GNA get into that right now yeah yeah well these are just kind of related first of all I talked with Aaron Friday and uh C with her on what she doing and request I wanted to make I didn't have a chance between Friday afternoon Clos the computer she's using
as slow as molasses is going uphill in January okay it's really taking she's wasting time so I in the office yeah in the cice it's one she has and Matt's been helping her he has the two the two monitors and a better thing he's been trying to help her but I didn't find Keith I was going to say can somebody please help her upgrade whatever has to be done ask I'll put in an appointment for Adam to look at the computer and see maybe she may talked upgrades I'll find out
it's just she's wasting a lot of time just trying to do stuff but you know the products are starting to come together like she's doing a lot of work this is the whole list of actual paid um betterments paid up in full she's doing the next one's this is the map that shows all the Lots kind of what we looking for and then I'll talk to CDM and now they go back to get get them to finish all the plans so that we can start doing this so we have everything that I was looking for so you can go and
look on a plan and know any one of us can go Pi for you guys somebody comes to the door you're paid you're not paid it's like a a cross check that you can everyone will know what's going on so by the end of this next few months we'll know everything about the system who paid who didn't pay why they didn't pay you anything and she just got a whole download of information on Friday morning so that's I said I come back in a week or so and I said Jan would be back and talk to us so that's that so
CDM I'm putting a whole bunch of things together I won't for you with all that but Dave was on the email yeah so that's and then um the water department letter I have youday yeah can we talk about that um no can we oh can we it's financials yes yeah didn't bring that let's put that on hold for a second then um then following up on financials I
reached out in my history of this system I had a nice long talk with Kevin Donovan when this whole thing started we had a nice chat really nice CH it was kind of fun actually and uh he gave me a whole bunch of information how all this came to come together okay which I don't know all the details so I'll keep it to that said clearly there was definitely agreement was a big deal about 13 23 and he says as far as he knows it was with
the rest of the plant and everything I've been saying so he said I don't want to put him on speak with him I want to talk to him some more yeah he's going to think about it because I hit him with something today that you know I gave him a note a couple days ago just to kind of give him a chance to go think about it and recall it's 20 years ago too for him yeah but the discussion was very much oh yeah I remember that yeah he was right in the middle of it all you remember that you know the mark beaten trying to change the 23 130 that whole that was a
big deal and I said well we have it all on records but uh I just want to have you it's not Brian Dono remembering yeah like the Messiah from you know some guy from the history books coming in and uh that's how I feel that was good Kevin he's now selectman chairman in Abington oh he's back on the board he was board so we ran oh okay good for him so I just we're I'm we're chasing you know going a different direction we're going to try to figure
all this out that's it so the water if you want yeah you go ahead so I didn't keep BR a copy that letter I gave you we had Jean put together I drafted a letter up and again it's a continuation on figuring out what's going on right my idea with this is the m think to everybody about money and one of our before my time but one of the factors
that played into our shortage and revenue on the operation side as well as the betterment side to a certain extent has been no hookup for a year and a two two and a half years now so my letter is meant to address go having as soon as possible meeting with the water department saying listen um we just went through a whole both of us both water and went through an upgrade to the rates or operating expenses and but we've come become aware we'll become
aware now how much of an impact has had on our budgets and we would like to have a meeting to get a people dispensation for lack of a betterwood to say from now on any any business any residence that comes to us that has the need for additional capacity be allowed to get that capacity as a as an exemption because it the effect it has in the sewer rates the
sewer department in total that's the theme of the letter okay okay got a meeting with them as soon as possible I mean like within the next two weeks we get that letter out it's not perfect I mean it needs a little editing but the theme is there that's why I gave it the key because it goes to the same you know they're getting wacked on that same thing town on development and not being able to hook up and revenue and all those things so that letter is intend that's the intend of the letter so I if you look at it and then we can finalize
it think we to a vote on the idea yeah so we could take a take a vote to send the water department a letter outlining the impact on the rates and can we have a meeting have a meeting the intent of the meeting is to get an exception an exception for any sewer user anybody who's on the SE we're not talking about spanning right outside of our existing but anyone who's on the sew system we have now okay but was meant to
be connected to it that's why that plan I'm doing is so important um that they would be given an exemption I use an example in the letter that that commercial property where the uh the block was right okay they came to us on a uh power wash they needed seven or 10 erus they had three the whole that whole business went away we lost the revenue we lost the operation
maintenance Revenue both like idea is if someone comes in with a legitimate commercial property idea for that and they want 50 I don't care how many it is go give them it from a water perspective from a water perspective they bought additional capacity for right a a business there that's the kind of idea is let let the businesses in La particularly with 3A or anywhere if they have a business or if say this I was thinking about the VFW
yeah you know if if someone knew if I'm a business person and I'm a developer and I walk in and there's this thing here they want to sell it in his own commercial or own um what lodge or something some kind of wind but if it made sense for the next door a butter whose commercial property to buy it and upgrade their ability to let them do it you know let's not have a water connection stop a huge increase in potential in capital um tax we for us
somebody develop a property that's run down or not as good as it could be make it cutter whatever just let the business side figure it out get through whatever zoning and planning has to be done but you know let it happen don't step in the way and use this obscure kind of thing out here it's not that we don't have water that's I mean I can understand the moror for a particular reason we do not not have any water we have plenty of water there's other reason for that yes K business support the K
Business Association supported and drafted a letter to that effect already and we will be there in your pocket for this exact same attack let's call it that yeah we don't want we want to have a conversation and an exemption based on the fact they have a timeline for well now versus from day one if they exempt the business side they're creating a tax base without all the other reasons people are trying to limit for whatever reason um I think we
have mutually wouldn't their argument be though that they have they could only produce so much water a day now and they can't allow anybody else they're only permanent to do X them out they can't allow anybody else to even if they expand their property they can't give them that extra water capacity water well we'll have the discussion but my in my understanding of this after asking these questions of the lot of Commissioners is that it's not a water problem it is a more of a administrative
problem because of things that they haven't done to ensure that U the capacity is that what is actually pumped is getting delivered okay so it's a leak issue and it's more of a regulatory issue than it is a it's a way for BP to say pick your Elite problem but we're not going to let you that's whether there are more time it's more on that side of things and okay so it'll be in between
the two things is a is a room is room for a discussion and an exemption it's not like we're asking for another million gallons of water well that's it I just wanted to to to Bill's point I just want to be respectful of the water Commissioners and the role that they need to take that we go with the approach showing them the impact on us and can we we sit down and talk about this and is there any room that they can um work towards permitting some things
yes that's that's the theme of The Letter Okay so if that's the theme of the letter you want to tweak it I'm okay with sending that and asking for what works for their schedule for us to go that was a motion I'll second motion all in favor I I yeah because I know we've been pressured a lot in the past to say yes to things that we're hard pressed we had to say no so I just want
to keep the open communication that okay and the so we're expecting to hear from Jay on anything else Brian no just talk with Jay because I have a couple this I was just GNA say we're waiting for Jay to get back to us on the um whether or not we can put applying a special assessment for the leeching fields or if it would be uh something we'd have to put on the the
sewer rates so we're waiting to hear back from him on that and for our next meeting I think we should be in a pretty good position to make some decisions on which way to go and in the meantime um Dave and I are going back on different financials to see you know if we used this source of fund what can does that do us does that provide us some time things like that so I think our next meeting should be a pretty productive one financially we can get
everything out ahead of time we Mee next week on that no what's our regular this is our regular meeting two two weeks two weeks J response that's all his response comes in the next it should be saying by the end of the week but we don't know so what's that the 18th maybe the 18th the 18th when do the warrant when does the warrant close the 25th of March right opens on the 25th of February closes the 25th of March so if we need
to put something yeah we'll have we can yeah make that an agenda item as well on the 18th uh Tom meeting articles because we'll have to put one in anyway for the budget and free cash the allocation of the 411,000 oh yeah so just go back with so you deal with this you looking at that money we have in the better money that's out the million six that Jay's supposed to get back to us on that as well
that problem Bas right the the next agenda we discussed the BFW yes they want to be yeah we did ask um I asked I reached out I haven't heard that I asked it's so far it's been the realtor who's been asking for this right we really should have something in writing from the owner the VFW right board or whoever asking specifically what are they looking for us to do
because to this point it's been a conversation with the realtor okay and then yeah we can certainly put it on the agenda so just TI of the letter we just talked about and Jean and D we're all aware that that is another part of potentially a part of this discussion would the realtor or the VFW be better make have a better deal for themselves whatever reason if they had more capacity now they're giving that stuff back they giv the stuff back for a different reason if you're a business
person you got know all the different things you know there's not just one so if they had let's say the next door neighbor I don't I looked at the property it's going to Arrow it's got to P back his businesses on one side right and then if so if they were interested if they knew they could get some kind of they don't own the parking lot behind them that's the problem yeah that's so it makes a tiny little lot but I'm saying if someone was to go in there and say if I brought this I could addit my repertoire and make I think that's
already the water's already under the bridge on all that because that's what we tried to say they they they don't want to try and purchase the property behind them to make it a bigger parcel business behind them has a huge drop off W if there's nothing we can do then I just don't want to have it become an impediment right okay but I mean if we discuss that just briefly does it behoove us to buy that back at at a reduced rate and put it back into our funding you know then again there's already something in in
rules our rules and regulations yeah in said just that we don't don't do that right not we did it for vacant Lots we didn't do it for preexistence yeah but then what happens if that's they never build anything else beyond that they pay it off can we take that flow back on our calculations because that's it that's all they're going to get two different things at the at the end of the day we look at things by
actual blow okay so getting to that point yeah whereas okay so because we have we have limits with the state that we can only put out process so much right and then once we reach that on paper even though Flo says that we still have 20% below that it's only actual you got think actual FL not two different things one's an accounting measure for what we charge it
betterment to be the other is actual flow in our particular case we are unique we have a permit for discharge that's well advanc of what we have for the permit for the treatment plan so when we you look at the numbers we can actually go up to our full capacity right and still have plenty of room for
discharge as opposed to if we only had a 700,000 gallon a day discharge capacity then we be backing off because they don't want to be maxed up and but we have that extra Peak so it gives us a lot of room so we have like 300,000 F now Mark were you here to talk to us about any yeah the power purchase I talked to the accountant have a SE huh you on TV so let me get back in
the power purchase I just say Brian the trip over there to bang on the door uh they don't know what the capacity is they don't know what they've got available for more power purchase as U to bring you up to speed the so like school system currently generates $300,000 in Revenue by having a power purchase agreement with a solar farm down the and it's based on the electric use we have and the way that money is being made is because we get our electricity delivered free and that's by State
statue as a municipality and you have to be and still relat on municipality so in the case of you as an Enterprise fund I'm not sure if you have your own municipality or if you already been put in with town of Kingston but at some point the town of Kingston based on electric bills kilowatt hour was used came up with a cap on what they could take for solar capacity in a power at the end of the day we have
increased particularly your use with the new tank um you've increased the amount of electricity we use and I think townwide we're probably using more electricity than we were at date 2006 or what they might have calculated she admitted she doesn't understand power purchase and there's very few people that do yeah said that in the town of Sandwich uh where she worked before they had hired somebody for $700 a month to manage the power purchase agreements for the town didn't
sound like a lot of money if you're going to make $300,000 or whatever the the Delta is in between that we could bring as a revenue Source in and solve some of our problems by doing this but it's it's getting a grasp of the power purchase I'm no expert but um we took the account in about three years to figure it it so L before we actually and she could probably explain it in layman's terms at least but it if a consultant for the
entire town will look at our power purchase our use and do that and see if there's a capacity where we can make some Revenue I think it's something we're looking for just came in the discussion we talk about our process electricity we know there's not have room for a lot of phot volic on our property but um could come up with that amount of electricity this is without building anything and this agreement when we first put it into place was 100,000 because of the cost of electricity has grown into a $300,000 reach fold increase in theeven
okay so this I think is a significant but it means getting the right expert in to figure out things and she's got a stack of bills in there that I there's a lot of things we got to fix yeah because there's a whole issue going back I know we're used in some aspect for the ever bills uh we don't get anything because of that against our bills but they we're being used I think it's for the for the
SOL SOL toay for the decommission of the wind turbine yeah so so it's all a big big regi board and from what I'm sing then you're you're being used right now for the capacity they need to get some of the revenue insurance but not but you're not seeing a dollar in your budg right coming away right okay so I know Lisa me from Jay's firm was very instrumental originally with power purchase agreement she was on the
Forefront of this whole industry when it first came out so I think it's a sure Financial let's look into it that we talk about like you said I don't I'm just getting into it on my own project now it's compli as hell you would it changes monthly that's the problem yeah I mean if so have you been okay if you wanna talk with Keith about getting I think Lisa would be the
individual to tell us who the expert would be that might be available she indicated there are Services out there might be something has to go to bid but yeah I didn't think $700 a month for a Down sandwich not right same size that was a very big not to crack based on the possibility of generating some reeven yeah Lisa me um was um she's were telling me yeah she actually was the one of the original Partners in the firm and then Jay came on with them so yes Lisa
me is well then we can coate a little bit on that g because that I mean I look at our bills with there 16 we don't even know what they are that's the problem right there like a bill zero and it's 17,000 and so this month we had a bill for $32,000 and then we had to pay it to town 19,000 in change of credits that were applied to our account so there is some credit stop but but it's not we
have to pay the town back it's not coming to our Enterprise fund so the eversource bill has a reduction of example 19,000 that we don't have to pay eversource but we pay the town the 19,000 for that credit from ever Source right so we're receiving no benefit from that okay if you're getting well I and again I don't know you don't have any solar on your property so and I'm not sure how the new solar field at the landfill functions
into this you know was an offset the turban that was there I mean this is a very big Jean said issue but I think it's something that you iron it out there might be some hidden Revenue there all looking right so there were certain um accounts like the schools uh I think fire water there a few departments that would had the big enough Bill to absorb the credits that would be coming through from that curage so that's how we were
picked and we didn't realize we were picked until it started happening right okay so yes if we can make that 171 19 whatever it is that month zero right where we're heading you could get some Revenue at the end of the year is a pay back for the previous year kind of thing that yeah it's all bit bigger on that metering over year and then the the other thing is um the delivery fees for both the gas and electricity are insane
um it's more than the supply that we're using the delivery fees and I mean we've seen not probably have personal balance as well so um well that's the savings the delivery fee is zero for any electricity you're buying from a silver field someplace so have having that capacity and getting it basically half price right is a is a huge gain with the utility builds that where they AR well
that's my next the landfill is my next little when I get through all this stuff with you guys and that's the next source of energy and I'll all take you up to Cory Hills and show you my which is coming online probably in six months the uh we're going to set a utility and P Hills is going to run it's it's going to eliminate urce and National Grid and have their own ility and they run the entire prob the whole n shebang poal gas they get for free really
and yeah it's it's endless grocery store Wass that's coming afterward that's the next thing because if you produce a place where you can take in grocer I'm that's you I got to be real careful how I talk about that CU I okay I know where I want go but it's brought with minefields okay I have only a few more years left
to call this so far plenty of time that's all I have Bill the the only other thing I want to mention is eron um has really dug in and is detail Orient ented and she you know has you know gone and gotten information from various sources so um it's been
it's been really good I'm very happy yeah that's why just having her pulled back by because she can't yeah machine to work that's of course I heard about it was Friday so I bring it up today if we can figure that up that'd be great we'll be and then by next meeting I'll have all the CDM plans everything to be done a Bo sure wow so let's plan on 218 for a meeting because even if Jay gets back to us the end of this week I think we're still going to have to do some um some options
for the 18th meeting you know to pull something together I don't know I think another meeting is there's a lot happening we have another meeting I think that's a good idea I mean between now and the 18th yeah yeah I definitely think it's a good idea if if we have enough time because if they come back and say betterments we have to figure out some options to present if they say it's utility bills and that's a whole another thing I don't know if we'd have everything together by
next Tuesday is my your Discretions chair I'm okay sneak us in for an hour or two okay to have another meeting I'm okay with let's see how soon he gets back to us and what we can pull together how's that sound yeah we'll stay tuned for next Tuesday but otherwise the 18 avable okay it sounds good anything else Brian you good I'm good motion to adj Second all in favor I I